Re: [ubuntu-uk] Passwords need prior to updates?
On 05/06/12 11:10, alan c wrote: Is it my imagination, or have recent updates, not required my password? (Ubuntu 12.04) No it's not your imagination. You will be asked for password if update mangler needs to install something - just not updates. Kernel upgrade for example will ask. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Update_Manager_doesn.27t_prompt_for_security_updates regards piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account
On 05/05/12 14:41, alan c wrote: On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: ubuntu-bug unity (replacing unity with whatever package has the issue) Then follow the prompts on the screen. I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to register a bug, and works pretty well. I cannot recall using it for very long so perhaps it is relatively new facility, or if I have just recently become aware of it. A failry useful thing if for some reason you are not able to let it process - I timeout regulalry with Launchpad is apport-bug /path/to/var/log/crash/crashfile for instance apport-bug /var/crash/_usr_bin_software-properties-gtk.1000.crash Piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account
On 04/05/12 07:00, kpb wrote: On 03/05/12 23:22, Alan Pope wrote: If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed direction we'd end up with a significantly worse OS as a result. When everyone keeps telling everyone else to reinstall, we end up with the state that Windows is in. Everyone thinks that's the solution, and it isn't, by some margin. My advice is if you don't know how to fix something, find someone who does, don't just bulldoze the house down and build another one when a pipe leaks. Hello Alan and all Right ok, this has challenged a basic assumption I have been making since the days of 6.06/8.04. Assumptions are meant to be challenged of course, so that's fine. I have always had a separate /home and reinstalled when changing version. I have done that partially because that was the advice when using Mac OS before I started using Ubuntu, and partially from advice about Ubuntu that was around then. During 12.04 testing there were appeals from Canonical people and Ubuntu members to get involved in iso testing, especially installation using 'default settings', so I did. What would be the best way to contribute during the 12.10 cycle? Are you suggesting that I should have a test box that I keep 12.04 on and then try upgrading it to 12.10 at regular intervals? My recollection is that an upgrade path does not become available until late in testing. You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. I use these commands to do so sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I follow the u+1 sub-forum on ubuntuforums as well - tend to have a look prior to any updates after that. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=416 Hope that helps Piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account
On 04/05/12 08:04, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote: You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up. I use these commands to do so sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I wouldn't recommend that. It's certainly _a_ way to upgrade, but this early and using that method isn't ideal. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPo39uAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wtMQH/08+x8O/cUoZsdjG7qz5kfz0 Qr7tRww2JT6ulSXz9ICaSAd+HJfBmBPN558HFcpd+w6a/AbIru3J44HTH6982/qy /+vpFmAiCPghUXnJK67ht1stW158SDj0xaVzIXD8bH7Cby+y/0ik2PjXVny+VUN+ gSG1sbbo9LtH5zedS55cWY/+THLoW6midb3onr3EFtiR0PStB+7rweDq5YGufYSl WAbj+kLgEyvJZO0L43YDQP61vJX6V34lSBwTHD1tqVXG+2ZCHGJ4k3jrByTLtLuj 48kyEv9jrxW8ZfZ9yMVMaxTzEI2lya1gTy9LkrHbM6dLO8WO+iMyIJOknXgl1sY= =+kwa -END PGP SIGNATURE- I'd kind of agree - but it is what people are doing in the forum testing team and have done as long as I've been hanging about there :) How would you do it Alan ? Piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account
On 04/05/12 08:12, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/12 00:06, Piskie wrote: How would you do it Alan ? I wouldn't upgrade now. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPo4FPAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wEBEIALa7R6S7p4kq8L5tdPpS2QoB JbNINIcUjF7R/zKOAjsfHfPG3wDLNI8WTO6FGjUdokyP1470ZnMzyqBDNsjF7gmR x98fTnrQ4AFAxriKFkm9jia2zFbJkfosDDt2NqV/P0sD/ove9LzV44QCNlSW/9Ae e1S2uVFm4Bn7ijIzHj41Uj2dFb96po3zY++V0lzQllqgLMWo2R3Q623KcE74awrH XCZzimEuM9hKIB43IMqvtAPT55V9RTHEbNkLqAht47yBvcLkpWft1CDlQMiCyO9M hZYG2UeW10G2x2vsjguf/nBUHGRVMC6Xe2V0wGhveNDKWt5WmXFiwZ6KbjPxryI= =F5mT -END PGP SIGNATURE- LOL People can be somewhat enthusiastic about helping with the next version :) Piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account
On 04/05/12 15:16, Gareth France wrote: I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting shouted at by people. I have posted on forums for pre-release versions, the intention being to say 'I'm having this issue, is anyone else seeing this?' My theory being I should establish it's a genuine problem and not just me. But the response I got was so harsh I just decided it wasn't worth the effort. Some of these people seem to forget that many of us want to test and improve and report bugs but none of us know how until we start trying. So a little tolerance of those of us who get it wrong or ask stupid questions should be shown. Instead you simply get told 'if you need to ask that you shouldn't be using the beta version'. You should use the report button on the forum Gareth. We (staff) want the development forum to be a place that anyone can visit - as it should be. Regards forestpiskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Youtube colour is wrong
On 09/04/12 20:34, Andres Muniz wrote: hi, looks like you tube shows in shades of blue. Really wierd. i was able to see a bbc film alright though. I'm using firefox on ubuntu 11.10. Probably some configuration that my toddler pressed that i have no way to find out. By the way: if you want to test os and apps use a toddler as as a beta tester. Any clues would be great to know. Though I can understand wanting to blame a toddler - been there done that ... It's not ;) There are a few fixes kicking about. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11824089postcount=1 Kev -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)
On 17/03/12 12:15, Liam Proven wrote: On 17 March 2012 02:43, Piskieub.u...@btinternet.com wrote: On 17/03/12 01:47, Liam Proven wrote: I asked this on the other list, possibly by mistake. I have installed beta 1 of Lubuntu 12.04 on an old PC I'm planning to give away. The only thing that is not flawless about it is that GRUB2 has not picked up that the primary partition on hard disk 0 contains MS-DOS - 7.1, specifically, from a Windows 98SE recovery floppy. It's a small install - just the core utils in a \DOS directory - but when I run `update-grub` it appears not to notice it at all. Is there any way of manually adding an OS to GRUB2? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 Yes - you need to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom and add the stanza there. Something like menuentry msdos622 on sda1 { insmod chain insmod fat set root=(hd0,1) chainloader +1 } Change the partition numbering to suit you. Then you need to run sudo update-grub. Hope that helps Very cool indeed - I will try it and report back. Thanks! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10275310postcount=3 Bah. Clearly my Google-fu is too weak. I did try searching - quite thoroughly, I thought - before asking. I was not able to sleep so I had some time :) I also have a bunch of grub2 links bookmarked - the change from grub threw me sideways for a while, not sure that I have recovered yet. One of the grub guy' on the forum is one of my staff compadres - so I have a back door as well :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)
On 17/03/12 15:13, Liam Proven wrote: Just FYI - that worked a treat. My thanks once again. Also, today has provided kernel 3.2.0-19 which seems to boot more reliably (so far) now the graphical boot screen works. Lubuntu FTW! Excellent - glad it worked :) Kev -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)
On 17/03/12 01:47, Liam Proven wrote: I asked this on the other list, possibly by mistake. I have installed beta 1 of Lubuntu 12.04 on an old PC I'm planning to give away. The only thing that is not flawless about it is that GRUB2 has not picked up that the primary partition on hard disk 0 contains MS-DOS - 7.1, specifically, from a Windows 98SE recovery floppy. It's a small install - just the core utils in a \DOS directory - but when I run `update-grub` it appears not to notice it at all. Is there any way of manually adding an OS to GRUB2? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 Yes - you need to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom and add the stanza there. Something like menuentry msdos622 on sda1 { insmod chain insmod fat set root=(hd0,1) chainloader +1 } Change the partition numbering to suit you. Then you need to run sudo update-grub. Hope that helps Kev http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10275310postcount=3 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubiquity and ubuntuforums
On 06/03/12 12:58, Bod Soutar wrote: Hi Guys, I just want to draw your attention to bug #894112 Precise Pangolin - Please include ubuntuforums.org http://ubuntuforums.org in the slideshow Some of the guys from ubuntuforums are asking for a slide during the Ubuntu installer to mention the forums, its support and community. I know some of you are active helpers on the forums and I'll bet most of you have received help there at some point or another. If you support this bug, please find it on launchpad and click the 'This bug also affects me link at the top. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112 Thanks, Bodsda Ubuntu Beginners Team Thanks bodsda I did so. Piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Happy Hour Reading 29th March
On 06/03/12 17:16, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, back from an extended christmas break the Happy Hour tour is starting up again, with our first stop for 2012 being in Reading at the end of this month http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1600/detail/ The pub is the Back of Beyond, which is a Weatherspoons pub slightly out of the town centre. Hope to see loads of you there. If you want a Happy Hour near you then all you have to do is specify the pub and a day that you can be there, give me a shout and I will add it to the tour. http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ Alan. Might try to make the Hobbit on Southampton when it get's there piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dig out your old computers...
On 04/03/12 19:56, Jim Price wrote: On 03/03/12 22:51, Phill Whiteside wrote: I have some old machines. How do I tell if they are non PAE? Try running this in a terminal sudo dmidecode |grep PAE If it has the PAE flag it'll show up I believe. regards piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Precise .....
On 17/02/12 16:06, Andy Whitcroft wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:12:30PM +, Liam Proven wrote: On 17 February 2012 15:10, Barry Drakeubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 17/02/12 15:06, Liam Proven wrote: Try sudo apt-get install -f Sorry, that just gives me: barry@prrecise:~$ sudo apt-get install -f [sudo] password for barry: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded. Then you don't have broken packages. Looking more closely at the error you posted, it says you have /held/ broken packages. What packages are marked as hold? That can commonly happen if the archive is inconsistant, particularly with unity packages where there are tight version constraints between them. Typically they resolve themselves in a few hours and an install will continue. I would normally not advise to take any offered Partial upgrades. They tend to lead to pain unless you intimately understand the output of apt-get when resolving conflicts. Good luck. -apw I'd agree with this. I have up till recently, synaptic being rather broken, updated from a terminal and then used synaptic to deal with upgrades. Never had a partial that way that caused me issues - update manager is prone to causing 'issues' during the dev cycle so I never use it, nor the software-centre. In the past I did it all from the terminal - but have been subscribed to various synaptic bugs. I'm sure there are reasons why I shouldn't but previously I did sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade After installing aptitude ... sigh Recently sudo apt-get update gksudo synaptic Good luck ;) regards piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Dependencies 10.04
On 09/01/12 13:47, Michael Daniels wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:22:51 + From: sfgreenw...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Dependencies 10.04 On 9 January 2012 13:10, Michael Daniels michae...@hotmail.co.uk mailto:michae...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I have the no entry symbol, following an attempted upgrade of DVD CSS decoder, screentop right. Broken dependencies appears to be the problem, some folders are devoid of content, or will not display. Is there an alternative to a reload of 10.04, please, update does not work now. Was attempting to load Medibuntu when it all went wrong. Have updated my current problem with bug report 912320, still pending. Any suggestions please ? Thanks, Michael From a terminal run the following: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude upgrade sudo aptitude -f which should bring your system up to date and clear any broken dependencies or give some useful output that you can then paste here. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood post-apocalyptic allen keys -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I get for -fE:Type '!DOCTYPE' is not known in line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources list.d/medibuntu list Hope I have typed it right, medibuntu appears to be the cause of the problem, thanks, Michael You can do one of two things here - either edit the file manually - lines in there should have either deb, deb-src or # at the beginning - nothing else. It's likely that the whole thing is wrong. The other option is to remove that file and redo the procedure to add medibuntu - either run nautilus as root - gksudo nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d and remove the file from there or do it from the command line - sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list Then re acquire the medibuntu repos using the command here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using an Nvidia MX440
Yes I did - up to Intrepid, though it took some fiddling then - I can't remember quite what I needed to do, nor did I ever try it wine. Originally I did have some odd font problems but they seemed to be caused by an oddity in my /home. I do have copy of my old xorg if that's of any use Kev Steve Baugh wrote: I have two Ubuntu systems, this one using an Nvidia 8400 quite successfully and anther one which is only used for my Amateur Radio activities. The second PC has an Nvidia MX440 in an AGP slot. The 2D nv driver works OK but I would like to be able to run programs using OpenGL. To this end I downloaded the version 96 driver from the repository and activated it. I then found that the programs I run under Wine had their menu text scrambled and when I enabled desktop effects pop-up windows and Screenlets were blank. I have now deactivated it. Has anybody managed to get 3D working with this card? Steve, Bracknell -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using an Nvidia MX440
xorg attached I hope - if not I'll post it it's the one I was using when I had the card - pretty sure that when I had the card I was caught up in all that Michael alludes to - I know I had to use proposed at the time to get it. I looked at my nvidia thread - I think that in the end I did a clean install and it worked for me, this was the issue I had with it to start with - but that was when the driver was beta still http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1827368postcount=1 Kev Steve Baugh wrote: Michael, Kev, Thanks for your comments and pointing me to the bug report. I am using Intrepid 32 bit. The bug report mentions a number of xorg.conf tweaks so that could be it. I would be interested to see your xorg.conf, Kev. The following comes up a lot: Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True There was a warning about a missing section in xorg.conf when I activated the driver so that may be it. Thanks again (I do miss compiz!), Steve On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:40 +, Michael Wood wrote: Yes I have, What version of Ubuntu are you running on the second PC ? There were problems with Intrepid because of the new Xorg server and nvidia not having released a driver that was compatiable with it, though this is mostly resolved now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/251107 2009/1/30 Steve Baugh stephen.bau...@ntlworld.com I have two Ubuntu systems, this one using an Nvidia 8400 quite successfully and anther one which is only used for my Amateur Radio activities. The second PC has an Nvidia MX440 in an AGP slot. The 2D nv driver works OK but I would like to be able to run programs using OpenGL. To this end I downloaded the version 96 driver from the repository and activated it. I then found that the programs I run under Wine had their menu text scrambled and when I enabled desktop effects pop-up windows and Screenlets were blank. I have now deactivated it. Has anybody managed to get 3D working with this card? Steve, Bracknell -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName COMPAQ S710 HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Unknown ModelName TV-0 HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes CRT: 1280x1024 +0+0; CRT: 1024x768 +0+0; CRT: 800x600 +0+0; CRT: 640x480 +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Videocard1 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes TV: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Loaddri LoadGLcore EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 Below Screen1 Screen 1 Screen1 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 Driver nv EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard1 VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 1 Driver nv EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama 0 EndSection ke...@kevin-desktop:/etc/X11$ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hampshire
I didn't even know about it to be honest. Looked around for a local LUG last year and didn't get far at the time so gave up, probably due to the last time I looked - which was I hasten to add a long time ago - I found one that was very 'beard and sandles' :) I won't be able to make this one - but once I get a bit of time, I'll try to make the next soton one. piskie Alan Pope wrote: Whist the list is mentioning Hampshire, I thought I'd mention that Hampshire LUG are having a meeting on Saturday at Southampton University. All are welcome to come along. We have talks (I'll be giving one), open discussion and box-fixing :) Hope to see other 'ampshire types there! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hampshire
Cool - anyway maybe see you next time in Soton then :) Alan Pope wrote: 2009/1/16 piskie ubu...@talktalk.net: heh - I own neither myself - and as I said I hasten to add a long time ago - a long time before I'd looked at Ubuntu, it was very cliquey and 'if you've not compiled it yourself - we're not interested' - so as a result neither was I. That still goes on with some people unfortunately. HantsLUG is a nice place though. We have people of all ages and backgrounds. We even have new people just turn up out of the blue to see if they can get help with their computer, or just to say hi and find out what's going on. I certainly don't feel the same way now and have been happily using buntu and various other distros for a couple of years and while I've not been very present on the mailing list - I am on the forums and IRC. Excellent. Good to know people are out there, wherever they find their home. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals
Well - that's all good then, from an off the cuff remark I also find that the hants lug meeting is during the day - so I might manage it after all, if I can work out how to get my name on the door list :) piskie Alan Pope wrote: 2009/1/16 David King linux...@avoura.com: I know what you mean about the beard and sandals. Just look at a picture of Richard Stallman -- would you trust a man who looks like that to create your OS? Danger Will Robinson! That way prejudice lies.. There is no reason why a person who is friendly with barbers should not also be good with Ubuntu or running a LUG. I have never been to a LUG, but mostly because I do not have the time, and their meetings take place in the evening, when I am working. Ours take place on Saturdays. We very rarely have meetings during the evening because Hampshire is such a large county that it's difficult to get there and back in an evening and still have time to get stuff done. We run it from 10AM till about 5PM which gives plenty of time for chat, demos, fixing, some talks and even a beer and/or curry after if you're that way inclined. Hopefully most people who want to use Ubuntu will see it and its users in a positive light (regardless of facial hair and footwear). I'd suspect it's more about what you do than what you look like. I mean take the people flaming the poor woman with the Dell laptop. They might all be devastatingly good looking and visit the barber every week. This doesn't seem to stop them being obnoxious! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals
Ta - done that now :) Hope to get there and say hello piskie Alan Pope wrote: 2009/1/16 piskie ubu...@talktalk.net: Well - that's all good then, from an off the cuff remark I also find that the hants lug meeting is during the day - so I might manage it after all, if I can work out how to get my name on the door list :) http://hants.lug.org.uk/lurker/message/20090115.162811.184c8344.en.html Has the details. Sorry it's not more clear. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib
Move to Hampshire - there are very few H's making an appearance Lizzeh Rodriguez wrote: To my credit, I'm starting to pronounce the H in herbs. :| I've betrayed my New Yawk roots! BinaryDigit on UbuntuForums.org Lizzeh.com Support Open Source! On 15 Jan 2009, at 21:28, Simon Wears wrote: There should ALWAYS be a U! =P Even in words that don't require one. Like.. foloffle. 2009/1/15 Lizzeh Rodriguez liz...@gmail.com mailto:liz...@gmail.com Coming from a bird and a Yank myself... John said it best. However I know that Sean meant bird in a playful sense, not really sexist in the context. But just watch what ya say because it's a huge mailing list and not everyone responds (like myself). I guess I'm finally getting the British humor after living here over a year! Yes...it's humor no u. :) Lizzeh.com Support Open Source! On 15 Jan 2009, at 20:27, John Levin wrote: Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk mailto:i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk wrote: I'm not going to point out that refering to someone as the bird like that is patronising and sexist. Oh not. Not for my first post to the list. Oh dear, I just did... Well, I meant it in the nicest possible sense. Better than the dumbest blonde in the world or whatever the poor lady (not the one who unsubscribed, as far as I know, but the mad Yank I alluded to!!) was described elsewhere on the list today. Let's try to avoid getting too PC. bird, gal, fella, geezer, other 'alf, trouble and strife etc. are all colloqiualisms which aren't really sexist or patronising at all, unless one decides to make them so. 'bird' and 'trouble strife' are perjoratives, and certainly are sexist. There is no relation between gender and having difficulty with mailing lists. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com mailto:munkyju...@gmail.com | http://MunkyJunky.com Manchester Metropolitan University Computing Student -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib
I am s glad, I thought I was alone Dr James Stevens-Turner wrote: I resemble that remark, coming from Ampshire! I am a Ampshire Hogg!! - Original Message - From: piskie ubu...@talktalk.net To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib Move to Hampshire - there are very few H's making an appearance Lizzeh Rodriguez wrote: To my credit, I'm starting to pronounce the H in herbs. :| I've betrayed my New Yawk roots! BinaryDigit on UbuntuForums.org Lizzeh.com Support Open Source! On 15 Jan 2009, at 21:28, Simon Wears wrote: There should ALWAYS be a U! =P Even in words that don't require one. Like.. foloffle. 2009/1/15 Lizzeh Rodriguez liz...@gmail.com mailto:liz...@gmail.com Coming from a bird and a Yank myself... John said it best. However I know that Sean meant bird in a playful sense, not really sexist in the context. But just watch what ya say because it's a huge mailing list and not everyone responds (like myself). I guess I'm finally getting the British humor after living here over a year! Yes...it's humor no u. :) Lizzeh.com Support Open Source! On 15 Jan 2009, at 20:27, John Levin wrote: Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk mailto:i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk wrote: I'm not going to point out that refering to someone as the bird like that is patronising and sexist. Oh not. Not for my first post to the list. Oh dear, I just did... Well, I meant it in the nicest possible sense. Better than the dumbest blonde in the world or whatever the poor lady (not the one who unsubscribed, as far as I know, but the mad Yank I alluded to!!) was described elsewhere on the list today. Let's try to avoid getting too PC. bird, gal, fella, geezer, other 'alf, trouble and strife etc. are all colloqiualisms which aren't really sexist or patronising at all, unless one decides to make them so. 'bird' and 'trouble strife' are perjoratives, and certainly are sexist. There is no relation between gender and having difficulty with mailing lists. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com mailto:munkyju...@gmail.com | http://MunkyJunky.com Manchester Metropolitan University Computing Student -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.
Hey - thanks for the reply - I've tried direct feed to the tft unfortunately. No volume available on the hardware - volume has to be full up on the software mixer to make speech at all audible. Nothing that I've tried has, apart from plugging it into a pc running xp, made any noticeable difference. Ken Robson wrote: Try feeding the tft DIRECTLY from the sound card this will eliminate any issues out side of the tft. If it is still low is there a volume control on it, either hardware ot via the menu? Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal, the output to a tv works normally. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.
But fine everywhere else. To expand - I have a Creative Audigy which works fine in almost everyway. Sound works everywhere but doesn't appear to drive the speakers in the monitor. Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal, the output to a tv works normally. There is sound at the monitor but is is very quiet - almost inaudible. If I route the soundcard output directly to the monitor it is still very quiet. I have checked the monitor on a different pc running xp and speakers work normally there. I have turned on all the possible mixer channels and upped all the volumes to no avail. Anyone have any ideas? Even a 'looks like it won't work' will do :) Kev -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.
I've swapped the outputs on the box about, changed cables - the same box feeds the tv with no problem. I don't think that it's hardware related as that has all been checked. Ken Robson wrote: Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal, the output to a tv works normally. Looks like your switch box is the issue, if you feed the speakers directly do they work? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: First time user I still have a dual
At a guess I would say that you have Ubuntu Ubuntu (recovery mode) Ubuntu memtest perfectly normal - when you get a kernel update you'll get 2 more If that is not what you're seeing then can you give us a biot moredetail of what you're seeing Kris Douglas wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: stepheno2le [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/29 Subject: First time user I still have a dual To: Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks Just trying out Ubuntu for the second time and putting in a bit more effort to try and use it as the OS of choice. However I still have a dual boot machinewhich is what I'd like assistance on please. Partitioned and running OK but I seem to have 3 versions of Ubuntu as well as XP offered me after the Grub 1.5 (?) loading page and I can't get rid of any of them, can I should I? Assistez SVP? Thanx Stepheno2le -- This message was sent by Launchpad via the Contact user/team link on your profile page. For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] PCI Tv tuner cards
Hey people - a little bit of help or misdirection needed - :) Looking for recommendations for a PCI tv tuner card which works without TOO much trouble. Mostly using Intrepid - sometimes Jaunty - but not worried about bugs there for obvious reasons as yet. Nvidia GeForce6200 card if it makes a difference. Thanks piskie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PCI Tv tuner cards
Thanks for the link - yea - I'll be wanting a digital one. Thanks for the replies everyone. piskie Rob Beard wrote: piskie wrote: Hey people - a little bit of help or misdirection needed - :) Looking for recommendations for a PCI tv tuner card which works without TOO much trouble. Mostly using Intrepid - sometimes Jaunty - but not worried about bugs there for obvious reasons as yet. Nvidia GeForce6200 card if it makes a difference. Thanks piskie I'd also suggest the Hauppage cards, they're probably the best supported cards out of the box. You don't mention if you want an analogue tuner card or a Freeview card. If you want an Analogue one then probably anything with a BT848 or BT878 chipset would work (which covers most analogue PCI TV Tuner cards). For Digital cards check out this site... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page You'd be looking for DVB cards (DVB-T for Terestrial i.e. Freeview, and DVB-S for Freesat). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour
not sure then - I'm fairly positive that was all I needed to add, but I could be mistaken. The only other difference being that I use seperate x screens rather than clone Als my tv seems to show 2 outputs from svideo input - av2 and yc2 - av2 is b/w - yc2 is colour Sorry David King wrote: I tried those options in the xorg.conf file, but it made no difference, I am still left with just a black and white output on the TV. I also tried Option TVOutFormat COMPOSITE but that did not help either. David David King wrote: Thanks piskie, I only found Option TV Format PAL-I when I searched on Google and tried that, but it did not work. I will try your suggestion and see if that works. David piskie wrote: From memory only and a quick look I believe I added similar to this into xorg in the device section Option TVStandard PAL-I Option TVOutFormat SVIDEO I never needed to use nvtv - not sure what card you're using but I have and had tvout on an old Geforce4 I never tried nvtv so can't help with that -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour
Hi -1 last try - firstly I have the same deal as you and my svideo cable is plugged into an adaptor Try adding this to xorg Section Extensions Option SVIDEOEnable Option Composite Enable I don't know if you've attached your xorg anywhere previously - I'm set up to delete old mails :) - perhaps you could do so David King wrote: The webpage suggests connecting pin 15 to pin 20. This did not work. Besides, when I connect a different PC running Windows using the same setup I get colour. I also tried putting the TV out lead from the PC into my old VCR which has s-video connection, and through that I also just got a black and white image. This leaves just 3 possibilities: software fault in Mythbuntu/Ubuntu hardware fault in graphics card faulty cable David Seif Attar wrote: Hello, This is what I was talking about, not sure if it's the same problem you have, worth a try if you're desperate. http://camp0s.altervista.org/sVideo/sVideo.htm -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour
Usually it's in System Admin - you should be able to run it from terminal - gksu nvidia-settings I did use to need to add the PAL or PAL/I option to xorg. Kev David King wrote: From the same PC, which already had Ubuntu 7.10 installed, when I boot into that old Ubuntu installation, I cannot find any option for the Nvidia control panel like I can in Mythbuntu. I want to test TV out in Ubuntu to find out if that will give a colour or black and white output from the same graphics card. I also have a PC running Windows XP with TV out on its Nvidia graphics card (which is similar to the one in the Mythubuntu PC) which gives a colour output on the TV. Both PCs are outputting their S-video via the same Scart switch to the same TV. The Nvidia-glx-new driver is installed in Ubuntu, so where is the control panel for Nvidia? David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot find any option for PAL or NTSC. There is also nothing listed in the xorg.conf mentioning NTSC or PAL. I also tried different cables, and different s-video to scart adapters. David David King wrote: Any ideas how to get the TV out image to be in colour? Sounds to me like it's set to NTSC rather than PAL. You'll need to either set it to PAL or PAL/I. I'm sure there should be something on the NVidia control panel. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour
From memory only and a quick look I believe I added similar to this into xorg in the device section Option TVStandard PAL-I Option TVOutFormat SVIDEO I never needed to use nvtv - not sure what card you're using but I have and had tvout on an old Geforce4 I never tried nvtv so can't help with that David King wrote: I installed nvtv only to be told that no supported video card was found. David King Rob Beard wrote: David King wrote: I managed to get the output back on the monitor, cloned onto the TV, but still only black and white on the TV. Have you tried nvtv? I did give it a quick try on my PC but my video card hasn't got TV out (I use DVI to connect the PC to the TV). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/