Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[Simon Greenwood]

On 7 February 2012 13:05, James Morrissey wrote:

> I think its a mix of this development problems at Compiz and the
> resultant instability/ability to break your system.
>
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/to-sam-the-face-behind-the-wobbly-window/
>
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos/
>
>
I have to agree with this: on my desktop, 11.10 64-bit, 1Gb Nvidia card,
compiz takes 20-30% of CPU at all times. This is actually an improvement on
the initial release when it would regularily spin up to 60-70%.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[James Morrissey]

I think its a mix of this development problems at Compiz and the
resultant instability/ability to break your system.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/to-sam-the-face-behind-the-wobbly-window/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos/

j

On 7 February 2012 13:02, Simon Greenwood  wrote:
>
>
> On 7 February 2012 12:48, scoundrel50a  wrote:
>>
>> Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and why
>> all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> As the article says, many distros have turned to Mutter. As Alan said, Unity
> is a Compiz plugin, which is why Ubuntu is essentially committed to it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[Simon Greenwood]

On 7 February 2012 12:48, scoundrel50a  wrote:

> Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and why
> all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?
>
>
>
>
>
As the article says, many distros have turned to Mutter. As Alan said,
Unity is a Compiz plugin, which is why Ubuntu is essentially committed to
it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[scoundrel50a]

Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and 
why all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?




On 07/02/2012 10:06, Alan Pope wrote:

On 07/02/12 08:58, scoundrel50a wrote:

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011



Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with Compiz in April. That will be supported 
for 5 years on the desktop. Compiz is a core component of Unity, in 
fact Unity is implemented as a Compiz plugin.


Also note Canonical employs Sam Spilsbury who works on Compiz.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[Alan Pope]

On 07/02/12 08:58, scoundrel50a wrote:

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011



Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with Compiz in April. That will be supported for 
5 years on the desktop. Compiz is a core component of Unity, in fact 
Unity is implemented as a Compiz plugin.


Also note Canonical employs Sam Spilsbury who works on Compiz.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[J Fernyhough]

On 7 February 2012 08:58, scoundrel50a  wrote:
> Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011
>

Compiz isn't dead: https://code.launchpad.net/compiz-core

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

[scoundrel50a]

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:48:38 +, "Alan Pope"  wrote:
> 2008/12/16 Andrew Oakley :
>> This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
>> xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
>> automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
>> drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
>> ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.
>>
> 
> You know envy is in the repo these days, and the author is not only a
> MOTU but is Featured Contributor on the hall of fame?
> 
> http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.

He is also one of the developers who worked on the new Jockey
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

[Farran]

On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 14:05 +, Andrew Oakley wrote:

> Alan Pope wrote:
> > 2008/12/16 Andrew Oakley :
> > > This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
> > > xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
> > > automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
> > > drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
> > > ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.
> > You know envy is in the repo these days, and the author is not only a
> > MOTU but is Featured Contributor on the hall of fame?
> 
> I don't doubt that envy is ideal for getting the most out of hardware,
> but if you're starting from a situation where the desktop just plain
> Does Not Work, it'd be better not to complicate things. Start from a
> blank page (no xorg.conf) and work up. Once you've got the basics
> working, and the restricted drivers, and compiz, then you can start
> worrying about which driver gives good 4xAA performance or whatnot. I've
> found envy to work great provided I install envy drivers on top of an
> already working system. Conversely, I've found envy to complicate
> matters unnecessarily when applied to a non-working system.
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cheers everyone so far :D I have aactually already tried the normal
jockey, which was fine, I just tried envy as an alternative option - the
only difference was they recommended different releases of the driver.
But I think I might have partly discovered the issue, which is
completely different :S. When I set up my pc, I only set aside 15gb for
the main (not /home) partition. ...That's full. *embarrassed* hehe damn.
I discovered that after looking in the xorg.conf and running the
reconfigure command, which threw 'Device full' at me. I checked, and so
it was. So it would possibly appear that even if I did try to update, I
can't :/. Is it possible to safely resize the partitions?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

[Andrew Oakley]

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2008/12/16 Andrew Oakley :
> > This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
> > xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
> > automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
> > drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
> > ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.
> You know envy is in the repo these days, and the author is not only a
> MOTU but is Featured Contributor on the hall of fame?

I don't doubt that envy is ideal for getting the most out of hardware,
but if you're starting from a situation where the desktop just plain
Does Not Work, it'd be better not to complicate things. Start from a
blank page (no xorg.conf) and work up. Once you've got the basics
working, and the restricted drivers, and compiz, then you can start
worrying about which driver gives good 4xAA performance or whatnot. I've
found envy to work great provided I install envy drivers on top of an
already working system. Conversely, I've found envy to complicate
matters unnecessarily when applied to a non-working system.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work - menus

[Paul Sutton]

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2008/12/16 Andrew Oakley :
>   
>> This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
>> xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
>> automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
>> drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
>> ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.
>>
>> 
>
> You know envy is in the repo these days, and the author is not only a
> MOTU but is Featured Contributor on the hall of fame?
>
> http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
I was running compiz for a while but it seems running this breaks menus 
in open office and a few other apps, so if after installing and getting 
it working,  you don't have any menu text or dialog box text in 
Openoffice you have a clue to the cause,

Apart from that, compiz is really impresive, i can still enable with
system, preferences - appearance -
then visual effects tab,

Clicking none fixes the above problem until a patch or fix is released.  
You can still impress friends with it though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

[Alan Pope]

2008/12/16 Andrew Oakley :
> This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
> xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
> automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
> drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
> ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.
>

You know envy is in the repo these days, and the author is not only a
MOTU but is Featured Contributor on the hall of fame?

http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

[Andrew Oakley]

On 15/12/2008, Farran  wrote:
> Compiz won't start when I log in, or when I tick the effects box in
> appearance prefs. I have to run "killall metacity && compiz --replace"
> at least twice before it will work. Then it's fine. But it seems to
> think I don't have the right driver installed or something, and i've

This sounds like a broken xorg.conf file. Try running without an
xorg.conf file. Hardy and Intrepid should manage without one, and/or
automatically generate a new one for you. Then use the restricted
drivers utility System ->  Administration -> Hardware Drivers (NOT
ENVY!!!) to install drivers if required.

Eg:

sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old

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[ubuntu-uk] compiz startup doesn't work

[Farran]

Hi all
minor problem, although it could potentially be a bit more serious cos I
couldn't fix it last time I managed to update...

Compiz won't start when I log in, or when I tick the effects box in
appearance prefs. I have to run "killall metacity && compiz --replace"
at least twice before it will work. Then it's fine. But it seems to
think I don't have the right driver installed or something, and i've
tried both drivers, using jockey and envy. Also, when I finally found
the new location of the (login) startup file, it's got compiz listed in
there, with all the id info and order right (with no trace of metacity).
Where is it/me going wrong?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working

[James Westby]

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:04 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote:
> I've just noticed that my compiz fusion special effects have stopped
> working. The cube doesn't turn when I  change desktops, or when I click
> and drag; the windows aren't wobbly; if I hit CTRL the cursor is
> highlighted but with solid rings rather than a graduated ring. 
> 
> The settings still seem OK, I haven't made any system changes, the only
> updates are the ones that have come through the normal updates, and I
> don't remember seeing compiz (though I may have missed it as I don't
> always remember to read all the updates included). 

When you get certain kernel updates (ABI bumps) the modules need to
be recompiled. There is every attempt made to make sure these are
done in sync for the stable release, but sometimes you don't get
all of the packages installed at once. Could you check that you
have the correct modules package installed, via something like

  dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)

(this checks that the linux-restricted-modules package, which contains
the nvidia kernel bits, that matches your currently running kernel
is installed)

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working

[Dianne Reuby]

It's always the really obvious that I miss - thanks! I've just realised
- I let someone use it on my login the other day, and they must have
turned it off.

Thanks
Dianne


On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:17 +0100, Ciaran Mooney wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried just turning it back on?
> 
> System --> Preferences --> Appearance
> 
> I do remember that Ubuntu will default to metacity, if something goes
> wrong with Compiz. This is so you still have a usable desktop,
> although sans beautiful effects.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working

[Ciaran Mooney]

Hi,

Have you tried just turning it back on?

System --> Preferences --> Appearance

I do remember that Ubuntu will default to metacity, if something goes
wrong with Compiz. This is so you still have a usable desktop,
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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working

[Dianne Reuby]

I've just noticed that my compiz fusion special effects have stopped
working. The cube doesn't turn when I  change desktops, or when I click
and drag; the windows aren't wobbly; if I hit CTRL the cursor is
highlighted but with solid rings rather than a graduated ring. 

The settings still seem OK, I haven't made any system changes, the only
updates are the ones that have come through the normal updates, and I
don't remember seeing compiz (though I may have missed it as I don't
always remember to read all the updates included). 

My video card is nVidia, I haven't changed the driver, and there are no
other video problems. PC memory seems to be OK.

I'm using Ubuntu 8.04, compiz 1.0.7.4 (which is the latest according to
Synaptic, although I think there's a later one on the compiz site). I've
looked at the troubleshooting on various sites, but can't find an
answer. I realise this is just eye-candy, but I do miss it!

Where can I start to track down the problem?

TIA
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

LeeGroups wrote:
>> The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and
>> I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is
>> affected.any ideas?
>> 
>
>   
>> Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse 
>> button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available 
>> screen area.
>>
>> 
> Yes, that's a a quick fix, but this bug has been around since Edgy, 
> though it seems to be happening less and less often.
> I've only seen it happen once under Hardy...
>
> Lee
>
>
>   
hanks for information never had this problem for the 3 years since I 
started with ubuntu.. it only happening about mid-day today. 
resizing doesn't work... just lost capital letters as well, bugger it's 
going to be one of those daysanyway thanks for informationany 
more suggestion's welcomed

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[LeeGroups]

> The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and
> I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is
> affected.any ideas?

>
> Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse 
> button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available 
> screen area.
>
Yes, that's a a quick fix, but this bug has been around since Edgy, 
though it seems to be happening less and less often.
I've only seen it happen once under Hardy...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Stuart Bird]

The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and 
I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is 
affected.any ideas?

Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse button. 
Then resize the window to fit just less than the available screen area.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Sean Miller wrote:
> Hide the top bar is my only suggestion can do that by right
> clicking on the bar, Properties and "Show Hide Buttons"... you'll then
> get nice < > things at each side that allows you to hide the bar.
>
> Sean
>
>   
Many thanks, sanity returns

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Sean Miller]

Hide the top bar is my only suggestion can do that by right
clicking on the bar, Properties and "Show Hide Buttons"... you'll then
get nice < > things at each side that allows you to hide the bar.

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Help

The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and 
I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is 
affected.any ideas?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Ted wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Ted wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Andrew Oakley wrote:
   
 
   
 
> Ted wrote:
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
>> John Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>> **??!! cube
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   
>> 
> Correct answer.
>
> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>
> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>
> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>
> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>
> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>
> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
 Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

 Regards

 John

   
 
   
 
>>> John..
>>> The sphere looks good...
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Where are these "round objects" can't see them
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>> 
> Settings manager cube reflection & deformation deformation..
>
>   
Help have lost control of Seamonkey the top of its header disappears 
under the top icon bar of screen and I can't shift it in any 
direction.doesn't happen to any other programme

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Ted]

John Taylor wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> John Taylor wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Andrew Oakley wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Ted wrote:
   
 
   
 
> John Taylor wrote:
> 
>   
> 
>   
>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>> **??!! cube
>>   
>> 
>>   
>> 
> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
> 
>   
> 
>   
 Correct answer.

 The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
 is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
 defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.

 A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.

 An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
 the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
 change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
 include the top cap and bottom cap).

 There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
 workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
 workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
 dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
 GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
 limit, it must be a pretty silly one.

 For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
 same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
 switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
 days), I still have the same number of desktops.

 I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
 Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
 at least not with the Compiz "Cube".

   
 
   
 
>>> Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> John..
>> The sphere looks good...
>>
>>   
>> 
> Where are these "round objects" can't see them
>
> John
>
>   
Settings manager cube reflection & deformation deformation..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Ted wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Andrew Oakley wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Ted wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 John Taylor wrote:
 
   
 
> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
> **??!! cube
>   
> 
>   
 In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
 Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
 
   
 
>>> Correct answer.
>>>
>>> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
>>> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
>>> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>>>
>>> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>>>
>>> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
>>> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
>>> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
>>> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>>>
>>> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
>>> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
>>> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
>>> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
>>> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
>>> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>>>
>>> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
>>> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
>>> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
>>> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>>>
>>> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
>>> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
>>> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>> 
> John..
> The sphere looks good...
>
>   
Where are these "round objects" can't see them

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Rob Beard]

Mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>> Sorry to jump in here, is Compiz Fusion included in Hardy by default, or 
>> is it different?
> 
> 
> Yep, included.
> 
> Mac
> 
> 

Ahh right, I did wonder if it was Compiz Fusion that did all the fancy 
effects.  Best I managed was wobbly windows.  I'll have to have another 
play as when I had it on Feisty it always made a great impression when 
converting eye-candy loving Windows users.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Mac]

Rob Beard wrote:
> Sorry to jump in here, is Compiz Fusion included in Hardy by default, or 
> is it different?


Yep, included.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Rob Beard]

Andrew Oakley wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>> John Taylor wrote:
>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>> **??!! cube
>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
> 
> Correct answer.
> 



Sorry to jump in here, is Compiz Fusion included in Hardy by default, or 
is it different?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Ted]

John Taylor wrote:
> Andrew Oakley wrote:
>   
>> Ted wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
 **??!! cube
   
 
>>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>>> 
>>>   
>> Correct answer.
>>
>> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
>> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
>> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>>
>> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>>
>> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
>> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
>> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
>> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>>
>> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
>> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
>> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
>> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
>> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
>> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>>
>> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
>> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
>> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
>> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>>
>> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
>> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
>> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>>
>>   
>> 
> Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>   
John..
The sphere looks good...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Andrew Oakley wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> John Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>> **??!! cube
>>>   
>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>> 
>
> Correct answer.
>
> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>
> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>
> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>
> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>
> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>
> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>
>   
Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Andrew Oakley]

Ted wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>> **??!! cube
> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2

Correct answer.

The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.

A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.

An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
include the top cap and bottom cap).

There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
limit, it must be a pretty silly one.

For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
days), I still have the same number of desktops.

I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
at least not with the Compiz "Cube".

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Philip Wyett wrote:
>
>
> 2008/6/19 John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >:
>
> Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not
> offered
> me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are
> ticked
>
> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no
> **??!! cube
>
> Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and
> capable
>
> It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it
>
> Any constructive ideas please?
>
> John Taylor
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> CTRL + ALT + Click and move your mouse - if memory serves.
Sorry but that doesn't work for me, thanks all the same

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Ted]

John Taylor wrote:
> Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not offered 
> me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are ticked
>
> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
> **??!! cube
>
> Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and 
> capable
>
> It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it
>
> Any constructive ideas please?
>
> John Taylor
>
>   
In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[Philip Wyett]

2008/6/19 John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not offered
> me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are ticked
>
> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no
> **??!! cube
>
> Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and
> capable
>
> It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it
>
> Any constructive ideas please?
>
> John Taylor
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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not offered 
me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are ticked

Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
**??!! cube

Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and 
capable

It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it

Any constructive ideas please?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Tan Xuan You]

Hi Ben,

I tried reinstalling compiz as suggested, even with removing all
libraries and packages listed and reinstalling them, but to no avail.


On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 00:19 +0100, Ben wrote:
> Hi  
> i had the same problem  and i resolved it by reinstalling compiz did urs
> just start  or was it working okay for a while then do it?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 23:23 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Compiz and gtk-window-decorator
> 
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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Ben]

Hi  
i had the same problem  and i resolved it by reinstalling compiz did urs
just start  or was it working okay for a while then do it?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Chris Rose]

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 00:08 +0100, Tan Xuan You wrote:
> Some people say xgl is required (for ATI cards at least), most people

I don't think that is the case anymore; with recent ATI drivers.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Tan Xuan You]

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 23:23 +0100, James Westby wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 21:54 +0100, Tan Xuan You wrote:
> > Each time, I tested by enabling compiz via the System menu, then
> > restarting X by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. All the times I tested the
> > window decorations didn't show up.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One thing that may get you more information is to start with metacity,
> i.e. no effects, and then open a terminal and run
> 
>   compiz --replace & disown
> 
> (the "& disown" bit is a good idea, as having an X terminal control
> the window manager can lead to some bad things)
> 
> Then post the resulting output here, and search Google using the 
> suspicious messages. It seems like compiz has been tested on nearly
> every chipset/driver/Xserver/kernel version, so normally the error
> messages are known to Google.
> 
> The alternative is that this information is ~/.xsession-errors, but this
> way you get all the bits that correspond to compiz.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 

Thanks for the tip. I got a wealth of information.

Checking for Xgl: not present. 
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0407 (rev a1) (prog-if 00
[VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. 
Checking for non power of two support: present. 
Checking for Composite extension: present. 
Comparing resolution (1920x1200) to maximum 3D texture size (8192):
Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present. 
Checking for FBConfig: present. 
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
Starting emerald
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format,
disabling YV12 image format
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (resizeinfo) - Warn: Bind Pixmap to Texture failure
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (resizeinfo) - Warn: Bind Pixmap to Texture failure
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (wall) - Error: Couldn't create cairo context for
switcher
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (wall) - Error: Couldn't create cairo context for
switcher
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (wall) - Error: Couldn't create cairo context for
switcher
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (wall) - Error: Couldn't create cairo context for
switcher
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Info: Couldn't bind redirected window
0x3400020 to texture

/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Info: Couldn't bind redirected window
0x3400020 to texture


I tried installing xserver-xgl, but no window decorations showed up
either, and it was painfully slow when repainting. Perhaps it was
because my gfx card was being worked all the time?

Some people say xgl is required (for ATI cards at least), most people
suggest the same argb-glx-visuals trick, some have suggested disabling
and re-enabling the window-decorator plugin, some have suggested forcing
the window-decorator plugin ¨command¨ option.

I´ve tried all the above to no avail.

Hmm. At least it looks like a compiz - nvidia problem now, nothing much
to do with gnome, as the same problem creeps up with beryl/kde, and
afaik, xgl.

I installed nvidia-glx from the Ubuntu repos and am using the nVidia
autoconfiguration xorg.conf file.

Any further tips?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[James Westby]

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 21:54 +0100, Tan Xuan You wrote:
> Each time, I tested by enabling compiz via the System menu, then
> restarting X by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. All the times I tested the
> window decorations didn't show up.

Hi,

One thing that may get you more information is to start with metacity,
i.e. no effects, and then open a terminal and run

  compiz --replace & disown

(the "& disown" bit is a good idea, as having an X terminal control
the window manager can lead to some bad things)

Then post the resulting output here, and search Google using the 
suspicious messages. It seems like compiz has been tested on nearly
every chipset/driver/Xserver/kernel version, so normally the error
messages are known to Google.

The alternative is that this information is ~/.xsession-errors, but this
way you get all the bits that correspond to compiz.

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Tan Xuan You]

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 21:37 +0100, James Westby wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 21:26 +0100, Tan Xuan You wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I think this has been a prevalent problem recently, yet I find myself
> > stumped by it.
> > 
> > Basically, whenever I enable any level of compiz using System ->
> > Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, gtk-window decorator fails
> > to paint my window decorations. Titlebar, window border are all gone,
> > and gnome-terminal is a big white screen, no matter how I try to force
> > the settings.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know if it will work for you, but when I was seeing this with
> Nvidia I did some searching and found that adding
> 
>   Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> 
> to the "Device" section of my xorg.conf helped.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> 
> 

Hi, 

I've tried adding that line alone to no avail,

sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals also doesn't work,

adding the following lines..
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
Option "RenderAccel" "True"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
Option "backingstore" "True"
Option "TripleBuffer" "Tru

via
http://nlindblad.org/2007/01/28/no-window-borders-with-beryl-and-nvidia-aiglx/

also didn't work.

Each time, I tested by enabling compiz via the System menu, then
restarting X by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. All the times I tested the
window decorations didn't show up.

Thanks for the tip though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[James Westby]

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 21:26 +0100, Tan Xuan You wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I think this has been a prevalent problem recently, yet I find myself
> stumped by it.
> 
> Basically, whenever I enable any level of compiz using System ->
> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, gtk-window decorator fails
> to paint my window decorations. Titlebar, window border are all gone,
> and gnome-terminal is a big white screen, no matter how I try to force
> the settings.

Hi,

I don't know if it will work for you, but when I was seeing this with
Nvidia I did some searching and found that adding

  Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

to the "Device" section of my xorg.conf helped.

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

[Tan Xuan You]

Hi all,

I think this has been a prevalent problem recently, yet I find myself
stumped by it.

Basically, whenever I enable any level of compiz using System ->
Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, gtk-window decorator fails
to paint my window decorations. Titlebar, window border are all gone,
and gnome-terminal is a big white screen, no matter how I try to force
the settings.

I'm on a nVidia card, and the drivers seem to work fine (XPlane works).

I've tried the command line too..
"gtk-window-decorator --replace" gives
Gtk-WARNING: Cannot open display:

Installing emerald and running "emerald --replace" also gives the same
output, both in su and out of.

I've tried poking around with the settings in CCSM, but to no avail.

I'm on a clean upgrade of Gutsy Gibbon (7.10).

Any tips?


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[ubuntu-uk] compiz being silly

[annonymouse]

menu panel being silly 



ive got an interesting problem with my ubuntu gutsy box 

im running compiz-fusion and also running kiba, 

all has been good for 3 months but i recently turned of my box for a week, upon 
turning it on it intermittantly makes the control panel no longer respond by 
control panel i mean the panel that has my ubuntu menu on it, and my 
notiifications area on it, if i left click on it it gives me the hand to grab 
and move the panel around and right click yeaild the panel options, this only 
does it on window selecter and the notification area however the ubuntu menu 
(places system etc ) works fine, i have to turn of effect and turn of kiba, log 
out log back in again set it up and it then works until nxt time it breaks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Farran]

perhaps if hda1 is entirely stable, you could generate the installed
files list and import it to Synaptic on hda3? Then you would have
everything from hda1 with everything you had extra on hda3. Compiz
should work then, as long as you don't have something installed that's
stopping it working.
Think that made sense...
hope that helps?

Farran

On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 21:43 +, Neil Greenwood wrote:

> Hi Ted,
> 
> On 21/12/2007, Ted Wager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rob Beard wrote:
> > > Ted Wager wrote:
> > >
> > >> On my spare box hda has three partitions two ext3 linux and a
> > >> swap...I have compiz running ok on hda1 with all the extra plugins.
> > >> I try to run compiz on hda3 but I get the error message...
> > >> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity.
> > >>  I have tried copying over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
> > >> /usr/bin/compiz but it still gives the error message..
> > >>   Any help appreciated..
> > >>
> 
> I think we need some more info, such as the exact error message
> (cut'n'paste?), and the contents of the X log (from /var/log/Xorg.log,
> or a similar filename in that directory).
> 
> The X log might be a bit too large to post inline or attach to a mail,
> so maybe using the pastebin (http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/) would be
> a good idea.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Neil Greenwood]

Hi Ted,

On 21/12/2007, Ted Wager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> > Ted Wager wrote:
> >
> >> On my spare box hda has three partitions two ext3 linux and a
> >> swap...I have compiz running ok on hda1 with all the extra plugins.
> >> I try to run compiz on hda3 but I get the error message...
> >> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity.
> >>  I have tried copying over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
> >> /usr/bin/compiz but it still gives the error message..
> >>   Any help appreciated..
> >>

I think we need some more info, such as the exact error message
(cut'n'paste?), and the contents of the X log (from /var/log/Xorg.log,
or a similar filename in that directory).

The X log might be a bit too large to post inline or attach to a mail,
so maybe using the pastebin (http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/) would be
a good idea.

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted Wager]

Rob Beard wrote:
> Ted Wager wrote:
>   
>> On my spare box hda has three partitions two ext3 linux and a 
>> swap...I have compiz running ok on hda1 with all the extra plugins.
>> I try to run compiz on hda3 but I get the error message...
>> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity.
>>  I have tried copying over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
>> /usr/bin/compiz but it still gives the error message..
>>   Any help appreciated..
>>
>> 
>
> I take it you're not using the default install of Compiz?
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Thanks for the reply
Both partitions have been upgraded from previous distro and I installed 
the nvidia driver using the
Ubuntu restricted drivers install But the xorg.conf and the 
/usr/bin/compiz are the same as are
the compiz files from Synaptic and at one time both systems were ok but 
now hda1 is still ok but hda3 gives me the error message

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Rob Beard]

Ted Wager wrote:
> On my spare box hda has three partitions two ext3 linux and a 
> swap...I have compiz running ok on hda1 with all the extra plugins.
> I try to run compiz on hda3 but I get the error message...
> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity.
>  I have tried copying over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
> /usr/bin/compiz but it still gives the error message..
>   Any help appreciated..
> 

I take it you're not using the default install of Compiz?

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted Wager]

On my spare box hda has three partitions two ext3 linux and a 
swap...I have compiz running ok on hda1 with all the extra plugins.
I try to run compiz on hda3 but I get the error message...
aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity.
 I have tried copying over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and
/usr/bin/compiz but it still gives the error message..
  Any help appreciated..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Jai Harrison]

Hey Sean,

I'm happy I managed to solve your problem. I've finally started to
learn enough through my own Ubuntu experience to be able to help
others.

Do you live anywhere around Essex? If so I'll take you up on the offer ;)

Jai

On 10/29/07, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Forget that last comment.. it just seems to have reverted with the install.
> Have changed back to UK and (touch wood) it's fine.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Sean
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted]

Tony Arnold wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> Tony Arnold wrote:
>> 
>>> Ted,
>>>
>>> Ted wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
 running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
 message...
 Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
 Starting emerald
 /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
 disabling YV12 image format

 I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
 get the error
 message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated
 
 
>>> Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
>>> binary only one for Compiz to work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tony.
>>>   
>>>   
>> Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
>> using in Sidux...
>> 
>
> The only other thing I would try is to run
>
>   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>
> and see if that makes any difference.
>
> If not, I have no idea!
>
> Regards,
> Tony.
>   
I have just installed Gutsy from a newly d/loaded cd...The old version 
was a much upgraded version
from  many months ago...I am quite pleased that compiz ran from the 
first try...Although I use it very little
it is quite good to impress local windows users

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Sean Miller]

Forget that last comment.. it just seems to have reverted with the install.
Have changed back to UK and (touch wood) it's fine.

Thanks all,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Sean Miller]

Jai, you're a genius! :-)

If I ever meet you I'll buy you a drink... it was as simple as that... just
installed the xserver-xgl package.

Now I've just got to work out why my keyboard has reverted to US... is there
something I need to do in XGL different than to normal?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Skeg Fast]

Sean Miller wrote:
> I have tried very hard to get Compiz to work with my ATI onboard 
> graphics card but have never succeeded.
> 
> I have therefore come to the conclusion that the two simply don't work 
> together, but can't really understand why... surely the thing has been 
> around for a sufficient time that folks could have made it compatible?
> 
> Feel I'm missing the opportunity to show off Ubuntu's wonderful new 3D 
> interface...
> 
> Sean
> 

What card is it and what driver do you have installed (ie do you use the 
restricted driver?) ATI cards don't work nicely (if at all) with Compiz, 
though much depends on the age of your card and the driver you're using.

If it's an older card and it doesn't work with the free driver then it 
probably won't work at all. If it's a new card then you might want to 
try using the latest driver direct from ATI (ie not the restricted 
driver from Ubuntu) which should work now (as of about two days ago). If 
it's a middling card (like mine) then you can either a) stick with the 
free driver or b) try getting Compiz to work with a proprietary driver 
and XGL - something that I've never managed :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Jai Harrison]

Hey Sean

Have you tried installing xserver-xgl?

Launch Synaptic Package Manager (System ->> Administration) and
install xserver-xgl. Now restart Xorg (ctrl+shift+backspace) and try
to enable desktop effects through appearance. This has worked for both
my grandmother and my father.

Jai

On 10/29/07, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have tried very hard to get Compiz to work with my ATI onboard graphics
> card but have never succeeded.
>
> I have therefore come to the conclusion that the two simply don't work
> together, but can't really understand why... surely the thing has been
> around for a sufficient time that folks could have made it compatible?
>
> Feel I'm missing the opportunity to show off Ubuntu's wonderful new 3D
> interface...
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Alec Wright]

On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 08:21 +, Ted wrote:
> Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
> using in Sidux...
Did you install it through apt? (sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new)
Also, why run it form the commandline? Just go to
System>Prefs>AAppearence then the visual effects tab and select normal
or extra.
If you do: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager, you'll
get a "custom" option too


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Skeg Fast]

Ted wrote:
> Tony Arnold wrote:
>> Ted,
>>
>> Ted wrote:
>>   
>>> Tony Arnold wrote:
>>> 
 Ted,

 Ted wrote:
   
   
> I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
> running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
> message...
> Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
> Starting emerald
> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
> disabling YV12 image format
>
> I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
> get the error
> message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated
> 
> 
 Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
 binary only one for Compiz to work.

 Regards,
 Tony.
   
   
>>> Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
>>> using in Sidux...
>>> 
>> The only other thing I would try is to run
>>
>>  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>>
>> and see if that makes any difference.
>>
>> If not, I have no idea!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony.
>>   
> Thanks for the reply Tony...
>Tried reconfigure and still get the same result...Just checked my 
> Sidux install and packages
> installed are covered in Gutsy ..Only difference is Sidux is based on 
> debian sid 
> Cannot understand why I cannot get it going in Ubi as I have tried 
> Mepis, Pclinuxos and Slackware
> on my other box and all run compiz ok...
> 

How did you install Compiz? AFAIK (I use Kubuntu) Compiz by default on 
Ubuntu doesn't use Emerald or XGL so I'm guessing you set it up 
manually? If so then try looking on the Compiz forums 
http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/ There's a lot of threads on there that 
deal with running Compiz with Emerald and the nvidia driver using XGL on 
Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted]

Tony Arnold wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> Tony Arnold wrote:
>> 
>>> Ted,
>>>
>>> Ted wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
 running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
 message...
 Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
 Starting emerald
 /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
 disabling YV12 image format

 I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
 get the error
 message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated
 
 
>>> Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
>>> binary only one for Compiz to work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tony.
>>>   
>>>   
>> Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
>> using in Sidux...
>> 
>
> The only other thing I would try is to run
>
>   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>
> and see if that makes any difference.
>
> If not, I have no idea!
>
> Regards,
> Tony.
>   
Thanks for the reply Tony...
   Tried reconfigure and still get the same result...Just checked my 
Sidux install and packages
installed are covered in Gutsy ..Only difference is Sidux is based on 
debian sid 
Cannot understand why I cannot get it going in Ubi as I have tried 
Mepis, Pclinuxos and Slackware
on my other box and all run compiz ok...

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz and ATI

[Sean Miller]

I have tried very hard to get Compiz to work with my ATI onboard graphics
card but have never succeeded.

I have therefore come to the conclusion that the two simply don't work
together, but can't really understand why... surely the thing has been
around for a sufficient time that folks could have made it compatible?

Feel I'm missing the opportunity to show off Ubuntu's wonderful new 3D
interface...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Tony Arnold]

Ted,

Ted wrote:
> Tony Arnold wrote:
>> Ted,
>>
>> Ted wrote:
>>   
>>> I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
>>> running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
>>> message...
>>> Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
>>> Starting emerald
>>> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
>>> disabling YV12 image format
>>>
>>> I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
>>> get the error
>>> message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated
>>> 
>> Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
>> binary only one for Compiz to work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony.
>>   
> Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
> using in Sidux...

The only other thing I would try is to run

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

and see if that makes any difference.

If not, I have no idea!

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted]

Tony Arnold wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
>> running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
>> message...
>> Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
>> Starting emerald
>> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
>> disabling YV12 image format
>>
>> I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
>> get the error
>> message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated
>> 
>
> Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
> binary only one for Compiz to work.
>
> Regards,
> Tony.
>   
Thanks for the reply..I am using the restricted driver, same one I am 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Tony Arnold]

Ted,

Ted wrote:
> I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
> running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
> message...
> Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
> Starting emerald
> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
> disabling YV12 image format
> 
> I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
> get the error
> message xserver-xgl is installed...Any help appreciated

Which nvidia driver are you using? I think you need the restricted
binary only one for Compiz to work.

Regards,
Tony.
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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz ?

[Ted]

I have two drives with Sidux on hda and Gutsy on hdb...I have compiz
running on Sidux but cannot get it running on Gutsy..I get the error
message...
Enabling Xgl with nVidia drivers...
Starting emerald
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, 
disabling YV12 image format

I have tried moving the xorg.conf from my Sidux installation but still 
get the error
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