Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-14 Thread Timothy Rittman



On 12/08/11 22:15, mac wrote:

On 12/08/2011 22:06, Barry Drake wrote:

On 12/08/11 21:57, mac wrote:
 gmx does not allow you to use a From field that's different from 
the account e-mail address you're using to authenticate the SMTP 
server. The gmail SMTP server, on the other hand, does allow you to 
do this with Thunderbird, IIRC.


 mac


Well, that's what I expected, but the gmail SMTP server doesn't like
it.  Evolution sent all the right headers to make it work - like the
'from' field was the same as the SMTP account from field.  I guess
before I go away again, I'll have to change all my lists to my gmx
account.  Bother!!


I don't understand what problem you're trying to solve.  I've just 
sent this e-mail with my gmx address but using the gmail SMTP server 
authenticated with a completely different address.


Is that not what you're trying to do?

mac



There is an 'smtp switch' add-on for Thunderbird which lets you choose 
which SMTP server to use to send an e-mail. As long as you set all the 
accounts to use the default SMTP server it works fine.


Is that what you were looking for?

Regards,

Tim

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread mac

On 12/08/2011 22:06, Barry Drake wrote:

On 12/08/11 21:57, mac wrote:

 gmx does not allow you to use a From field that's different from the account 
e-mail address you're using to authenticate the SMTP server. The gmail SMTP 
server, on the other hand, does allow you to do this with Thunderbird, IIRC.

 mac


Well, that's what I expected, but the gmail SMTP server doesn't like
it.  Evolution sent all the right headers to make it work - like the
'from' field was the same as the SMTP account from field.  I guess
before I go away again, I'll have to change all my lists to my gmx
account.  Bother!!


I don't understand what problem you're trying to solve.  I've just sent 
this e-mail with my gmx address but using the gmail SMTP server 
authenticated with a completely different address.


Is that not what you're trying to do?

mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Barry Drake

On 12/08/11 21:01, alan c wrote:

It was thanks to Thunderbird (on Windows) that I could effectively
move from Windows to GNU/Linux, it took many months, extracting my
data, and my habits, from a very proprietary email program, to TBird
in Windows, and thence to GNU/Linux.

I can understand that.  I was using Firefox and Thunderbird in the bad 
old Windows days.  Migrating was a real joy - and so easy!


Regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Barry Drake

On 12/08/11 21:57, mac wrote:

gmx does not allow you to use a From field that's different from the account 
e-mail address you're using to authenticate the SMTP server. The gmail SMTP 
server, on the other hand, does allow you to do this with Thunderbird, IIRC.

mac


Well, that's what I expected, but the gmail SMTP server doesn't like 
it.  Evolution sent all the right headers to make it work - like the 
'from' field was the same as the SMTP account from field.  I guess 
before I go away again, I'll have to change all my lists to my gmx 
account.  Bother!!


Regards,Barry.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread mac
On 12 Aug 2011, at 21:16, Barry Drake  wrote:

> On 12/08/11 20:26, Tony Travis wrote:
> 
> > I set all my TB accounts to use the 'default' SMTP server for outgoing 
> > email and, as Simon said,
> > I then select a different default SMTP server depending on if I am sending 
> > email at home or at work.
> 
> 
> That's what I figured. But if I set the SMTP to gmx and the account as 
> ntlworld, I get the following when I try to send unless I change thee-mail 
> address to my gmx address.
> 
> "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.0 
> Sender address does not belong to logged in user {mp-eu002}. Please verify 
> that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."
> 
> If I send from gmx, the e-mail address I have to put in for the account has 
> to be a gmx account, but it will let me put the ntlworld address as'reply 
> to'.  I imagine this will prevent me posting to lists that are subscribed to 
> my ntlworld address.

gmx does not allow you to use a From field that's different from the account 
e-mail address you're using to authenticate the SMTP server. The gmail SMTP 
server, on the other hand, does allow you to do this with Thunderbird, IIRC.

mac
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Barry Drake

On 12/08/11 20:26, Tony Travis wrote:

> I set all my TB accounts to use the 'default' SMTP server for 
outgoing email and, as Simon said,
> I then select a different default SMTP server depending on if I am 
sending email at home or at work.



That's what I figured. But if I set the SMTP to gmx and the account as 
ntlworld, I get the following when I try to send unless I change 
thee-mail address to my gmx address.


"An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.0 
Sender address does not belong to logged in user {mp-eu002}. Please 
verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and 
try again."



If I send from gmx, the e-mail address I have to put in for the account 
has to be a gmx account, but it will let me put the ntlworld address 
as'reply to'.  I imagine this will prevent me posting to lists that are 
subscribed to my ntlworld address.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread alan c
On 12/08/11 19:17, Barry Drake wrote:
> Overall, I'm pleased that the next release goes back to Thunderbird - I 
> think it has better possibilities.

It was thanks to Thunderbird (on Windows) that I could effectively
move from Windows to GNU/Linux, it took many months, extracting my
data, and my habits, from a very proprietary email program, to TBird
in Windows, and thence to GNU/Linux.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Tony Travis

On 12/08/11 19:17, Barry Drake wrote:

Overall, I'm pleased that the next release goes back to Thunderbird - I
think it has better possibilities. But, one area I miss is the apparent
lack of control over the sending fields. On Evolution, I was able to
set my sending to use another server than the receive server. I need to
do this because my ISP only allows sending when logged into their own
service, so when I'm away and hooked up to a wi-fi, I can't reply in the
normal way.

Evolution allows for fully setting the from field to my ISP while
sending from another. All Thunderbird allows is changing the 'reply-to'
field ... not quite as good. I took a look at the configuration - the
accounts information is in a file called prefs.js, but I can't see a
workaround there. Any thoughts?


Hi, Barry.

I set all my TB accounts to use the 'default' SMTP server for outgoing 
email and, as Simon said, I then select a different default SMTP server 
depending on if I am sending email at home or at work. You set it at:


  Edit / Account Settings / Outgoing Server (SMTP)

HTH,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Simon Greenwood
You can define multiple SMTP servers and choose which one to use. That's
separate from the account configuration. There are probably plugins that
make it easy to change.

s/
On 12 Aug 2011 19:18, "Barry Drake"  wrote:
> Overall, I'm pleased that the next release goes back to Thunderbird - I
> think it has better possibilities. But, one area I miss is the apparent
> lack of control over the sending fields. On Evolution, I was able to
> set my sending to use another server than the receive server. I need to
> do this because my ISP only allows sending when logged into their own
> service, so when I'm away and hooked up to a wi-fi, I can't reply in the
> normal way.
>
> Evolution allows for fully setting the from field to my ISP while
> sending from another. All Thunderbird allows is changing the 'reply-to'
> field ... not quite as good. I took a look at the configuration - the
> accounts information is in a file called prefs.js, but I can't see a
> workaround there. Any thoughts?
>
> Regards, Barry.
>
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[ubuntu-uk] From Evolution to Thunderbird ....

2011-08-12 Thread Barry Drake
Overall, I'm pleased that the next release goes back to Thunderbird - I 
think it has better possibilities. But, one area I miss is the apparent 
lack of control over the sending fields. On Evolution, I was able to
set my sending to use another server than the receive server. I need to 
do this because my ISP only allows sending when logged into their own 
service, so when I'm away and hooked up to a wi-fi, I can't reply in the 
normal way.


Evolution allows for fully setting the from field to my ISP while 
sending from another. All Thunderbird allows is changing the 'reply-to' 
field ... not quite as good. I took a look at the configuration - the
accounts information is in a file called prefs.js, but I can't see a 
workaround there. Any thoughts?


Regards, Barry.

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