Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18 October 2011 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I am not a programmer Maybe this is an opportunity to do something about that? :-) -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote: If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package away, what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot of the packages can't ship without full java in place. The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it. What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to get the online version. So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook by default then? At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I *think* shares a fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was dropped in version 4, before Sun bought it, but the address book remained so it would appear that when Evolution and its data storage system were integrated with Gnome, the API was still there. The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as the storage engine, principally because Evolution is still owned by Novell. However, LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in the pre-Oracle days so I would think it's not going to be straightforward to introduce a new storage engine as a plugin. I have this terrible feeling that at first it might have to be an ODBC data provider... s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood post-apocalyptic allen keys -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 19/10/11 09:03, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote: If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package away, what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot of the packages can't ship without full java in place. The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it. What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to get the online version. So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook by default then? At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I *think* shares a fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was dropped in version 4, before Sun bought it, but the address book remained so it would appear that when Evolution and its data storage system were integrated with Gnome, the API was still there. The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as the storage engine, principally because Evolution is still owned by Novell. However, LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in the pre-Oracle days so I would think it's not going to be straightforward to introduce a new storage engine as a plugin. I have this terrible feeling that at first it might have to be an ODBC data provider... OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that comes direct from the LO website? -- My Alternative Computing Blog http://gbplinuxfoss.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 19 October 2011 09:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: snip OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that comes direct from the LO website? snip My guess would be that it might not play nice with the OpenJDK (by default), and since you're not allowed to distribute Oracles Java stuff anymore, it would essentially mean shipping a completley non-functioning product, rather than a very slightly crippled one? -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/10/11 09:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 19/10/11 09:03, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote: If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package away, what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot of the packages can't ship without full java in place. The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it. What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to get the online version. So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook by default then? At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I *think* shares a fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was dropped in version 4, before Sun bought it, but the address book remained so it would appear that when Evolution and its data storage system were integrated with Gnome, the API was still there. The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as the storage engine, principally because Evolution is still owned by Novell. However, LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in the pre-Oracle days so I would think it's not going to be straightforward to introduce a new storage engine as a plugin. I have this terrible feeling that at first it might have to be an ODBC data provider... OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that comes direct from the LO website? Gordon, I redirect your attention to the post I made earlier, Ubuntu can't ship java runtime by default, so it can't include all the parts that are installed by default by the online version, the packages are available in the repos you just need to install java (via ubuntu-restricted-extras it's just the easiest way) then install the missing parts if you goto LO in Software Center you can open the main LO package and see all of the missing parts. - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAk6eozsACgkQT5xqyT+h3Ohu8QCYg2yrz49LirO59NOmscRlOQk+ yACfZ+UZHI57Q8dfQRX8F5qElyMmc0Y= =rpM/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
What on EARTH is Canonical thinking about? They replace Evolution with TBird (good!) but after installing Base there is STILL NO ability to use the TBIRD ADDRESS BOOK as an address data source! This is absolutely INSANE! -- Registered Linux User no 240308 Ubuntu 10.04 (yay!) Windows 7 (unfortunately) Say No to OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8 I only accept odf or pdf documents -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: What on EARTH is Canonical thinking about? They replace Evolution with TBird (good!) but after installing Base there is STILL NO ability to use the TBIRD ADDRESS BOOK as an address data source! This is absolutely INSANE! I forget, did you ever file a bug? Either way, I'm not really sure what you're hoping to achieve by ranting about it on here. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? Filling my inbox with exclamation marks is not going to resolve your issue Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:35:16 To: British Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18/10/2011 17:48, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? Unfortunately I am not a programmer -- Registered Linux User no 240308 Ubuntu 10.04 (yay!) Windows 7 (unfortunately) Say No to OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8 I only accept odf or pdf documents -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 17:43 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: What on EARTH is Canonical thinking about? They replace Evolution with TBird (good!) but after installing Base there is STILL NO ability to use the TBIRD ADDRESS BOOK as an address data source! This is absolutely INSANE! I forget, did you ever file a bug? Either way, I'm not really sure what you're hoping to achieve by ranting about it on here. He's venting. You can't vent in a bug report, and the effect will be the same: wait for 6 months for your fix! I actually sympathize with him, I have suffered other Ubuntu regressions myself (although I never sent a rant to a mailing list, that's true). Regards, Juan -- jjm's home: http://www.usebox.net/jjm/ blackshell: http://blackshell.usebox.net/ en_GB@blog: http://engbblog.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/10/11 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 18/10/2011 17:48, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? Unfortunately I am not a programmer Mostly because it's nothing to do with canonical, this is an issue with LibreOffice. Have you tried their site for a plugin? - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6dsWwACgkQT5xqyT+h3Oi+1QCgy7Xb7S/tBsRi6M1zxB/qgcm8 wtsAn1KiG4XUs/c+CvMP/8S85UaYb5ye =q1A6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18/10/11 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? If the issue is that you can use your Evolution address book(s) as a mail merge source in Base, but not your Thunderbird address book, you could try installing thunderbird-couchdb. This allows Thunderbird to access the address book in desktopcouch via the Evolution Data Server; if Base also uses EDS to get the address books, it should be available. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate |Tel: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18/10/2011 18:03, Dave Morley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/10/11 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 18/10/2011 17:48, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? Unfortunately I am not a programmer Mostly because it's nothing to do with canonical, this is an issue with LibreOffice. Have you tried their site for a plugin? No it's to do with what Canonical DO with LO. If you remove the version of LO (and this was the same with OO as well) and replace it with the version from the LO website then the option to use TBird addressbook as an addressbook source magically becomes available. Canonical cripple some parts of LO - whether deliberately or not I don't know, but it shouldn't happen... -- Registered Linux User no 240308 Ubuntu 10.04 (yay!) Windows 7 (unfortunately) Say No to OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8 I only accept odf or pdf documents -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
On 18/10/2011 18:09, James Tait wrote: On 18/10/11 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? If the issue is that you can use your Evolution address book(s) as a mail merge source in Base, but not your Thunderbird address book, you could try installing thunderbird-couchdb. This allows Thunderbird to access the address book in desktopcouch via the Evolution Data Server; if Base also uses EDS to get the address books, it should be available. JT I know there are workarounds but that shouldn't be necessary, particularly if (as I've said) you remove the Canonical-supplied version of LO and replace it with the one from the LO website, the TBird integration magically appears! It appears that Canonical do something to the version of LO/OO (and this happened with OO as well) that they ship with Ubuntu.. -- Registered Linux User no 240308 Ubuntu 10.04 (yay!) Windows 7 (unfortunately) Say No to OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8 I only accept odf or pdf documents -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 18/10/2011 17:48, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... Well, no. If there's but on abandoned bug report I can quite understand the limited resources instead being directed at bugs that're affecting a large number of users, or even just particularly useful users To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows *everything* appears to be the one thing that keeps people away from Ubuntu right now. You're the only person I've seen to have come across this, and I can present a list of several other reasons people stick with Windows if you like. - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website So at least there's an easy workaround. I'm afraid that, too, will lower the priority of fixing the bug itself. but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? I don't know. That's the sort of thing you'd find out from the bug tracker. Unfortunately I am not a programmer It's not hard to find one. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/10/11 18:41, Avi Greenbury wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 18/10/2011 17:48, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books off and fix it yourself? But it's been like this for years and I think I may well have filed a bug years ago, but it's obviously not even been on Canonicals radar at all... Well, no. If there's but on abandoned bug report I can quite understand the limited resources instead being directed at bugs that're affecting a large number of users, or even just particularly useful users To me it's the one thing that will stop people using Ubuntu and preferring Windows *everything* appears to be the one thing that keeps people away from Ubuntu right now. You're the only person I've seen to have come across this, and I can present a list of several other reasons people stick with Windows if you like. - MS Office does this automatically and so does the version of LO that you can get from the LO website So at least there's an easy workaround. I'm afraid that, too, will lower the priority of fixing the bug itself. but if the software is supplied as part of the install shouldn't people expect ALL the functions to be there? Why do they miss one of the most important out? I don't know. That's the sort of thing you'd find out from the bug tracker. Unfortunately I am not a programmer It's not hard to find one. If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package away, what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot of the packages can't ship without full java in place. The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it. What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to get the online version. - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6dvC4ACgkQT5xqyT+h3OhtPACfdElbFg+taivbmBsPAqXm7an7 rf4AoNXJpgqahRzXnJsw0HP8m9EK8Iot =roPn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
