Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-22 Thread Darren Mansell
Mark Harrison wrote:
> IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As 
> far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually 
> been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make 
> them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
>
> ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who 
> DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I 
> say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it 
> sounds compelling :-)
>
> NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels 
> like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
>
>
>
> London, 21st October 2007
>
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
>
> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, 
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and 
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
>
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community 
> explains the benefits:
>
> "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. 
> Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We 
> understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they 
> found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
>
> Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers 
> such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows 
> pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
>
> Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
>
> "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see 
> why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than 
> change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140, 
> it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need 
> a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though, 
> since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
>
> This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
>
> "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... 
> whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or 
> Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide 
> face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who 
> don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
>
> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki 
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
>
>
>
>
>   
Before I read any replies - awesome. Fantastic. Perfect.

I'm part of SBLUG so I'll put it across to them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-22 Thread Chris Rowson
> Well, I have to say, I'd considered that this wasn't really us doing
> anything new beyond what we're already doing...

I was waiting for someone to say that :-D

Consider this folks. PR can be a bit of a insubstantial thing which
might just be telling people about the things that we are already
doing, but telling them in a manner which makes them sit up and take
notice.

I think its a great idea. Lets get cracking!

Using the answers support system and perhaps the forums would seem to
me to be the most accessable format to people unused to our community.
I think it'd also be worth putting something like this into the
release:

"... ubuntu-uk will be offering first line support to those who don't
need the full level of support options offered by Canonical Limited."

Just so that we aren't stepping on Canonical's toes.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Larsen
Hey Mark,

Nice idea, I think it works well. However I think you need to
highlight the free aspect of Ubuntu more.

Also try and keep to one type of user, I got a bit confused reading
'user', 'home user', 'web user'. maybe just repace user with 'people',
sounds less formal.

Apart from that, love it

Regards,

On 21/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As
> far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually
> been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make
> them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
>
> ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who
> DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I
> say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it
> sounds compelling :-)
>
> NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels
> like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
>
>
>
> London, 21st October 2007
>
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
>
> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows,
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
>
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community
> explains the benefits:
>
> "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs.
> Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We
> understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they
> found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
>
> Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers
> such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows
> pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
>
> Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
>
> "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see
> why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than
> change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140,
> it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need
> a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though,
> since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
>
> This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
>
> "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu...
> whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or
> Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide
> face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who
> don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
>
> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Harrison
Dougie Richardson wrote:
> 1.  How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering
> but not if it starts to cost my significantly in expenses.
>   
Well, I have to say, I'd considered that this wasn't really us doing 
anything new beyond what we're already doing... More us realising that 
the demographic of the Ubuntu-using community is at a tipping point, and 
trying to make sure that people realise that Ubuntu-UK exists as a 
community (and help to promote Ubuntu in the process.)
> 2.  How would Canonical feel about this? Essentially we would be
> reducing their oppertunity for any kind of commercial support option
> that might be considered in conjunction with Tesco.
>   

I'll stick in some boiler-plate about "This initiative is a community 
project staffed by volunteers keen to help bridge the digital divide, 
and not endorsed by Tesco or Canonical (the makers of Ubuntu)."

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:53 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
>> London, 21st October 2007
>> 
>> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective
>> from 1st November, it will be offering free technical support to
>> users of selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
>> 
> 
> LOVE this idea.
> 
>> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft
>> Windows, including both office software (word processor,
>> spreadsheet and presentation program) as well as tools for
>> Internet surfing and home users.
>> 
>> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK
>> community explains the benefits:
> 
> This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for
> PCs. Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web
> users. We understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but
> because they found it to be less prone to virus attacks.
> 
> There, now I've said it.
> 
> What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with
> Ubuntu... whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it
> with a Dell or Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User
> Groups to provide face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the
> UK, ideal for people who don't like the idea of trying to get
> support over the Internet.
> 
> There, now I've said it.
> 
>> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the
>> Wiki about where people can get help (just a link to the
>> LUGs)
> 
> I don't mind being a contact (that _is_ kinda my role :) ). Passing
>  requests onto other parties.
> 
> Cheers, Al.

Hi alan and all
I would like to support this idea, for face to face - certainly local
to bracknell.

** Can another thread name be used when specific arrangements are
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Kris,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:49 +0100, Kris Marsh wrote:

> 1) Ensure ASDA is in the press release too
> [http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/esys/linux.html]

Good plan.

> 2) Suggest we also point users to the forum and IRC, if they're not
> interested in face-to-face.

Well, we already have this:-

http://ubuntu-uk.org/ --> click "Tech support". It takes you to:-

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Support

Which has a list of people willing to support, and their locations. We
could of course embellish this page somewhat in anticipation of new
people. How could it be improved? Fancy having a go at it?


> 3) Describe at the end of the article how users can go about getting support.

I wouldn't do that in the press release. I'd just give them enough
detail to find and contact us. We can then ascertain the "best" support
method for them. 


Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/21/07, Kris Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/21/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As
> > far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually
> > been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make
> > them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
> >
> > ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who
> > DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I
> > say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it
> > sounds compelling :-)
> >
> > NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels
> > like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
> >
> >
> >
> > London, 21st October 2007
> >
> > The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st
> > November, it will be offering free technical support to users of
> > selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
> >
> > The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows,
> > including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and
> > presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
> >
> > Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community
> > explains the benefits:
> >
> > "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs.
> > Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We
> > understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they
> > found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
> >
> > Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers
> > such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows
> > pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
> >
> > Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
> >
> > "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see
> > why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than
> > change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140,
> > it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need
> > a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though,
> > since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
> >
> > This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
> >
> > "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu...
> > whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or
> > Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide
> > face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who
> > don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
> >
> > Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki
> > about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
> >
>
>
> I like the marketing frame on this, great idea! I have three
> suggestions to make it even better:
>
> 1) Ensure ASDA is in the press release too
> [http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/esys/linux.html]
> 2) Suggest we also point users to the forum and IRC, if they're not
> interested in face-to-face.
> 3) Describe at the end of the article how users can go about getting support.
>
>
> Kris
>

Ignore point 1), just re-read the ASDA link, and although it's an
eSys, it doesn't come supplied with Ubuntu (it comes with "Linux 9.3"
- probably SuSE?)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Alan,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:35 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> There is nothing that says "we" have to do site visits at all. "Free"
> support could be via the traditional methods such as forums, irc and
> mailing list.
> 
> If you built a relationship with a customer and said you would like to
> make a site visit and charge them for that then that's entirely up to
> you.

Fair enough. I must admit that thanks to my ISP's new anti spam measures
I may well have missed parts of this discussion.

> But we already _do_ provide such support.
> 
> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~alanpope
> 
> There for example you can see some support questions I have either
> commented on or answered. This is free. This is support.

That's of course true, however if we are saying we support Tesco
customers with their new PC then we need realise that may new users may
expect this support in the same manner as they would from Tesco.

Such users would not necessarily be of the type that has made a
conscious decision to go open source.

While I think it's a great initiative I think we need to actually get a
hold of one of these machines and check it out. 

> We have one:- http://uk.ubuntuforums.org/

I know, but it is as prominant on the front page of the forums as Dell's
support forum?

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/21/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As
> far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually
> been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make
> them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
>
> ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who
> DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I
> say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it
> sounds compelling :-)
>
> NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels
> like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
>
>
>
> London, 21st October 2007
>
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
>
> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows,
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
>
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community
> explains the benefits:
>
> "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs.
> Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We
> understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they
> found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
>
> Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers
> such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows
> pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
>
> Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
>
> "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see
> why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than
> change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140,
> it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need
> a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though,
> since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
>
> This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
>
> "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu...
> whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or
> Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide
> face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who
> don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
>
> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
>
>
>
>
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I like the marketing frame on this, great idea! I have three
suggestions to make it even better:

1) Ensure ASDA is in the press release too
[http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/esys/linux.html]
2) Suggest we also point users to the forum and IRC, if they're not
interested in face-to-face.
3) Describe at the end of the article how users can go about getting support.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Dougie,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:24 +0100, Dougie Richardson wrote:
> I agree with this, although I'm not aware of the distribution of members
> of the group, if this was to prove popular then there are two problems:
> 
> 1.  How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering
> but not if it starts to cost my significantly in expenses.

There is nothing that says "we" have to do site visits at all. "Free"
support could be via the traditional methods such as forums, irc and
mailing list.

If you built a relationship with a customer and said you would like to
make a site visit and charge them for that then that's entirely up to
you.

> 2.  How would Canonical feel about this? Essentially we would be
> reducing their oppertunity for any kind of commercial support option
> that might be considered in conjunction with Tesco.
> 

But we already _do_ provide such support.

https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~alanpope

There for example you can see some support questions I have either
commented on or answered. This is free. This is support.

> This is already by far the most active mailing list that I subscribe to
> and would not care to see a significant increase in traffic. Why not a
> forum as there is for Dell?

We have one:- http://uk.ubuntuforums.org/

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Chris,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:02 +0100, Chris Oattes wrote:
> I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of 
> "contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We 
> would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to 
> visit people to support them etc. - The time constraints may be too much 
> to deal with.
> 

But we _already_ provide support to people. 

http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
http://uk.ubuntuforums.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net/freenode

> With regards to online support, it may end up swamping #ubuntu-uk,

If it does, we create #ubuntu-uk-support, or deal with it some other
way. I'd cross that bridge if and when we come to it.

>  and 
> the mailing list, with support requests - I do not believe that this is 
> the intended purpose of either of these resources.

We have other resources than the mailing list and irc channel as
outlined above.

Cheers,
Al


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mac
Mark Harrison wrote:

> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.


Mark >>> Great press release - and exactly the right tone.

One small point - speaking as one who has had contact with Tesco, the 
correct name for the company is 'Tesco' rather than 'Tescos' (though the 
possessive would, of course, be "Tesco's").

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mark,

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:53 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
> London, 21st October 2007
> 
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
> 

LOVE this idea.

> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, 
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and 
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
> 
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community 
> explains the benefits:

This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. 
Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We 
understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they 
found it to be less prone to virus attacks.

There, now I've said it.

What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... 
whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or 
Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide 
face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who 
don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet.

There, now I've said it.

> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki 
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)

I don't mind being a contact (that _is_ kinda my role :) ). Passing
requests onto other parties.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi all,

> I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of 
> "contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We 
> would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to 
> visit people to support them etc. - The time constraints may be too much 
> to deal with.

I agree with this, although I'm not aware of the distribution of members
of the group, if this was to prove popular then there are two problems:

1.  How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering
but not if it starts to cost my significantly in expenses.
2.  How would Canonical feel about this? Essentially we would be
reducing their oppertunity for any kind of commercial support option
that might be considered in conjunction with Tesco.

> With regards to online support, it may end up swamping #ubuntu-uk, and 
> the mailing list, with support requests - I do not believe that this is 
> the intended purpose of either of these resources.

This is already by far the most active mailing list that I subscribe to
and would not care to see a significant increase in traffic. Why not a
forum as there is for Dell?

Cheers,

Dougie Richardson


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Oattes
Mark Harrison said the following on 21/10/07 19:53:
> IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As 
> far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually 
> been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make 
> them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
> 
> ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who 
> DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I 
> say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it 
> sounds compelling :-)
> 
> NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels 
> like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
> 
> 
> 
> London, 21st October 2007
> 
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
> 
> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, 
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and 
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
> 
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community 
> explains the benefits:
> 
> "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. 
> Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We 
> understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they 
> found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
> 
> Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers 
> such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows 
> pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
> 
> Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
> 
> "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see 
> why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than 
> change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140, 
> it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need 
> a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though, 
> since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
> 
> This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
> 
> "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... 
> whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or 
> Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide 
> face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who 
> don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
> 
> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki 
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
> 

I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of 
"contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We 
would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to 
visit people to support them etc. - The time constraints may be too much 
to deal with.

With regards to online support, it may end up swamping #ubuntu-uk, and 
the mailing list, with support requests - I do not believe that this is 
the intended purpose of either of these resources.

Chris Oattes.


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[ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Harrison
IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As 
far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually 
been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make 
them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)

ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who 
DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I 
say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it 
sounds compelling :-)

NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels 
like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."



London, 21st October 2007

The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.

The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, 
including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and 
presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.

Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community 
explains the benefits:

"This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. 
Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We 
understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they 
found it to be less prone to virus attacks."

Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers 
such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows 
pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.

Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.

"With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see 
why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than 
change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140, 
it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need 
a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though, 
since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."

This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:

"What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... 
whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or 
Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide 
face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who 
don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."

Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki 
about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)




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