[ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Philip Newborough
Hello Peeps

I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics
controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would
benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card,
but I am somewhat lost as to which one. I am not too bothered about it
being the best on the market, I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
screencasts.

Any help with this would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,
 -- Philip

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Pope
On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newborough corenomi...@corenominal.org wrote:
 I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
 perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
 screencasts.


http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853

Is the one I recently bought. I previously ran Ubuntu Natty perfectly
well on a 7900GT. I too am not a gamer but do play Portal 2,
Minecraft and a few others. Basically any nVidia card you can buy
these days will eat your onboard Intel for breakfast.

Assuming you use the non-free driver or the unsupported nouveau
experimental 3d one.

Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Rob Beard

On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote:

Hello Peeps

I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics
controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would
benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card,
but I am somewhat lost as to which one. I am not too bothered about it
being the best on the market, I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
screencasts.

Any help with this would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,
  -- Philip



Probably the Geforce 210, you can get one here for just under £24 plus 
delivery from ebuyer.com:


http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240886

(Also includes a Street Fighter 4 download voucher, although I expect 
it's probably not much use, but you could always pass it on to someone 
who has Windows and plays games).


It should be well supported with the proprietary NVidia driver and it 
supports VDPAU for HD video acceleration in mplayer and MythTV.


Actually I didn't realise they were so cheap now, might pick one up for 
the kids PC.


Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Rob Beard

On 13/06/11 17:44, Alan Pope wrote:

On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newboroughcorenomi...@corenominal.org  wrote:

I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
screencasts.



http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853

Is the one I recently bought. I previously ran Ubuntu Natty perfectly
well on a 7900GT. I too am not a gamer but do play Portal 2,
Minecraft and a few others. Basically any nVidia card you can buy
these days will eat your onboard Intel for breakfast.

Assuming you use the non-free driver or the unsupported nouveau
experimental 3d one.

Al.



That one seems a bit over kill for a non-gamer.  I could understand how 
a gamer would want something like that though (or maybe an ATI card).


Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Timothy Rittman

On 13/06/11 18:11, Rob Beard wrote:

On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote:

Hello Peeps

I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics
controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would
benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card,
but I am somewhat lost as to which one. I am not too bothered about it
being the best on the market, I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
screencasts.

Any help with this would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,
  -- Philip





Rob's suggestion sounds good.

For the record, I'm not a gamer either, but use an NVIDIA 8600GT with 
two monitors on a twinview set up. I had quite a few problems setting it 
up, but eventually got it working with the proprietary drivers and a lot 
of fiddling. I'm happy to give you a few pointers, but it may not be the 
best choice for a straight forward set up. It seems other cards work 
much easier out of the box. It does work well with HD media.


All the best,

Tim

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newborough corenomi...@corenominal.org wrote:
 I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
 perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
 screencasts.


 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853

 Is the one I recently bought. I previously ran Ubuntu Natty perfectly
 well on a 7900GT. I too am not a gamer but do play Portal 2,
 Minecraft and a few others. Basically any nVidia card you can buy
 these days will eat your onboard Intel for breakfast.

 Assuming you use the non-free driver or the unsupported nouveau
 experimental 3d one.


I have tried the onboard Intel 4500MHD and it is generally fine when
playing back most HD content, either x264 or webm. Admittedly, the
video content is decoded by the CPU, so in that case it's a
combination of CPU + GPU.
For your specific onboard graphics card, I believe that you are on the
limits of what the hardware can do and what the current driver offers.
If you have Ubuntu 11.04, run
/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
to verify the state of the driver you are using.

For the screencasts, a good graphics card is not a requirement. The
capturing of the frames is mostly a CPU task.

Therefore, you can get away with an entry level graphics card from
AMD/ATI or NVidia, especially if your budget is around £30-40.
Phoronix, http://www.phoronix.com/ does a good job benchmarking
graphics cards on Linux.

Simos

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 13 Jun 2011 18:11:58 Rob Beard wrote:
 On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote:
  Hello Peeps
  
  I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics
  controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would
  benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card,
  but I am somewhat lost as to which one. I am not too bothered about it
  being the best on the market, I am not a gamer, but I would like it to
  perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some
  screencasts.
  
  Any help with this would be gratefully appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  
-- Philip
 
 Probably the Geforce 210, you can get one here for just under £24 plus
 delivery from ebuyer.com:
 
 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240886
 
 (Also includes a Street Fighter 4 download voucher, although I expect
 it's probably not much use, but you could always pass it on to someone
 who has Windows and plays games).
 
 It should be well supported with the proprietary NVidia driver and it
 supports VDPAU for HD video acceleration in mplayer and MythTV.
 
 Actually I didn't realise they were so cheap now, might pick one up for
 the kids PC.

I have the PNY 210 installed on 3 computers and it works great with 10.10, I 
am having trouble getting it to work properly with 11.04 - hardware 
acceleration of Flash video doesn't seem to be working.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Philip Newborough
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. After looking into some of the
suggested cards, it looks like I might be limited by my system's PSU,
which is only 350W -- this is lower than recommended for Alan's
initial suggestion. :(

I could upgrade the PSU, but I would rather not. So, I am now looking
at a GeForce GT 430, which seems like a nice mid-range product. I'll
let you know how I get on with it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions and help. :)

 -- Philip

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