Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
> [snip] > > As for Winston Churchill, he'd have probably been too drunk to write > it anywhere logical... would probably have missed the paper and > written it on the tablecloth instead, then wondering why Lady Astor > was chuckling to herself at the other side of the Commons Canteen. > Sean Thus, is there an anti-Godwin's Law that states whenever you mention Winston Churchill or the Allies you win the argument? =) XuanYou -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Jeff Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS Upon raising this issue on Ubuntu Users list recently, I was amazed > to see how many dozens of highly-charged comments there were on the > subject. Only to be lampooned for raising the subject, I see today > someone posted a 787 line message with a five-line reply on that list. I feel it was a perfectly reasonable request and have to admit that it shocks me that we ended up discussing Nazis and WW2 - that said, I am absolutely sure that Hitler would not have dreamt of top posting, Eva would have berated him, I am sure, for writing "you're in charge of the wine, Rudolf" on Hess's invitation to a meal in the Bavarian Alps... he would, of course, have had to write it on the bottom where it would be logical to do so. As for Winston Churchill, he'd have probably been too drunk to write it anywhere logical... would probably have missed the paper and written it on the tablecloth instead, then wondering why Lady Astor was chuckling to herself at the other side of the Commons Canteen. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
Jeff Fisher wrote: > Lack of comment equals lack of influence - the consequence of which is chaos! and forgot to include: PS Upon raising this issue on Ubuntu Users list recently, I was amazed to see how many dozens of highly-charged comments there were on the subject. Only to be lampooned for raising the subject, I see today someone posted a 787 line message with a five-line reply on that list. Regards again Jeff Fisher -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
W. Canis wrote: [snip] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law > > Thanks for the link. One is never finished with learning. > But you are shooting with cannon on sparrows. > > Have fun, Communication requires that all parties understand a common language that is exchanged. It is not a pointless battle to stand up and say I believe in something. This list would not work without a common language together with some form of structure, whether written or not, and people who believe in what they are doing. By standing up for the things you believe in helps set and reassert the standard. By giving in, you are agreeing with the drop in standards. The excuse for top posting is surely nothing but ignorance and, as such, can quite simply be resolved by highlighting the fact. Lack of comment equals lack of influence - the consequence of which is chaos! Regards Jeff Fisher -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
Alan Pope wrote: > As you've probably figured out from Godwins Law wiki page, as soon as > you start talking about WW2/Nazis you lose the argument. Quote from the FAQ: Godwin's Law FAQ -or- "How to post about Nazis and get away with it" One of the most famous pieces of Usenet trivia out there is "if you mention Hitler or Nazis in a post, you've automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in". Known as Godwin's Law, this rule of Usenet has a long and sordid history on the network - and is absolutely wrong. This FAQ is an attempt to set straight as much of the history and meaning of Godwin's Law as possible, and hopefully encourage users to invoke it a bit more sparingly. Of course, knowing Usenet, it won't do an ounce of good... Quote end. Full context is here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/ > I'm not shooting at anyone. Merely pointing out that bringing up > something as atrocious as the second world war when talking about > top-posting really isn't appropriate in my opinion. My comparison applies to terms "ginving up / ignorance" _not_ to top-posting. What I want point out is, that it is very dangerous to give up only because those who does something wrong are a majority. The majority _and_ the individual are _always_ wrong. Right is _only_ the compromise. That's a rule that I learnt. Have fun, W. Canis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 17:16 +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 15:08 +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: > >> leads, is, I think, known. Ignorance starts always in small steps and > >> after a while you have a really worse situation. The worst example is > >> surely WW2. > > Alan please, do you don't think that the quote is > now a little bit out of context? As you've probably figured out from Godwins Law wiki page, as soon as you start talking about WW2/Nazis you lose the argument. Hence:- > > > > Epic fail. > > Thanks for the link. One is never finished with learning. > But you are shooting with cannon on sparrows. I'm not shooting at anyone. Merely pointing out that bringing up something as atrocious as the second world war when talking about top-posting really isn't appropriate in my opinion. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Godwin's law WAS (Rules)
Alan Pope wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 15:08 +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: >> leads, is, I think, known. Ignorance starts always in small steps and >> after a while you have a really worse situation. The worst example is >> surely WW2. Alan please, do you don't think that the quote is now a little bit out of context? My intend was of course to exaggerate, to show to what giving up / ignorance leads. ;-) > > Epic fail. What do you mean by that? :-[ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Thanks for the link. One is never finished with learning. But you are shooting with cannon on sparrows. Have fun, W. Canis signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
