Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-10 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:11:47PM +, alan c wrote:
>> agreed yes, an da topic I discuss with real newcomers is about the
>> wonders of installation and partitions. There are many different
>> circumstances, and each can be handled with some text and some screen
>> shots. Install is the biggest anxiety (risk) thta a windrone faces -
>> they may only have the one machine at that time.
> 
> Yeah, I am thinking of doing one on installation using the alternate cd 
> rather than the live 
> one. Simply because the alternate one has so many more options that people 
> might need whereas 
> the live installer is pretty basic and not fun to watch.

this is ok if the newcomer has a basic single hd etc. If they have
two, or have any other complication, they will use the manual option
on the Desktop CD (I always do this now) and the gparted, including
Commit, and mount and partition choices, including which needs to be
formatted. Some of this is not intuitive to the early user - it was
not to me  - partly because the display puts mounts to the left and
partitions to the right, and to my uninformed thinking, the choice of
partitions comes first, then a decision about where to mount happens.
This really confused me at first and I am not a complete beginner.

It is not urgent, and I may have a go at it myself with a series of
screenshots.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:30:54PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.ogg (10.7MB)
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.mpeg (34.4MB)
> 

Added:-

http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates_audio_only.ogg (3.1MiB) 
audio only
http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.mp4 (5.0MiB) (320x240 
video)

Again the mp4 was encoded with MPEG4 video and AC3 and is designed for small 
form factor devices 
like iPods.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Tony Arnold


Alan Pope wrote:

> Yeah, I am thinking of doing one on installation using the alternate cd 
> rather than the live 
> one. Simply because the alternate one has so many more options that people 
> might need whereas 
> the live installer is pretty basic and not fun to watch.

I was wondering about this one too, but it could get messy as there are
so many options when installing. I.e., dual boot with Windows;
partitions v LVM, manual v automatic partitioning etc. Maybe there
should be a series going from very simple to advanced!  There is also a
long bit where the packages are being installed and configured that
might need to be edited down a bit. Could be interesting though, and
really useful to newbies and not so newbies.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:11:47PM +, alan c wrote:
> agreed yes, an da topic I discuss with real newcomers is about the
> wonders of installation and partitions. There are many different
> circumstances, and each can be handled with some text and some screen
> shots. Install is the biggest anxiety (risk) thta a windrone faces -
> they may only have the one machine at that time.

Yeah, I am thinking of doing one on installation using the alternate cd rather 
than the live 
one. Simply because the alternate one has so many more options that people 
might need whereas 
the live installer is pretty basic and not fun to watch.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:07:07PM +, alan c wrote:
> charity calendar pictures in swimsuits?  :-)

I suspect we'd get paid *not* to release that! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:43:03PM +, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> On 09/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:59:05PM +, alan c wrote:
>> > Cool, don't forget to make suggestions as to what you think should go in 
>> > them. I'm basically
>> > working through my own list, but if anyone suggests *simple* topics for 
>> > recording I'll consider
>> > it.
>> 
>> How about a How-To Screencast on how to create a screencast?
>> 
> 
> :)
> 
>> Mmmm. Recursive screencasting.
>> 
> 
> Watch it the Hashlugradio guys will turn and start shouting "Meta!" at you :)
> 
>> Seriously though, it might come in handy for the rest of us to give it a 
>> shot?
>> 
> 
> Yeah. It should be top of the list really, along with how to play them back. 
> Needs a little 
> planning, so will have stab at it maybe at the weekend. To be honest this one 
> is probably best 
> done as a how-to with oodles of screenshots rather than a video.

agreed yes, an da topic I discuss with real newcomers is about the
wonders of installation and partitions. There are many different
circumstances, and each can be handled with some text and some screen
shots. Install is the biggest anxiety (risk) thta a windrone faces -
they may only have the one machine at that time.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread alan c
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On 09/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:59:05PM +, alan c wrote:
>> Cool, don't forget to make suggestions as to what you think should go in 
>> them. I'm basically
>> working through my own list, but if anyone suggests *simple* topics for 
>> recording I'll consider
>> it.
> 
> How about a How-To Screencast on how to create a screencast?
> Mmmm. Recursive screencasting.
> Seriously though, it might come in handy for the rest of us to give it a shot?

I have already tried and failed because istanbul needs a few
dependancies I think that do not seem to get installed when I use the
Kubuntu clicky install approach. It does work (!) but only for a few
seconds, looking a bit like it cannot handle the memory or something.I
do not know enough to satisfy yth e dependency needs in the limited
time I have just now, and I cannot see the other apps for screencast
in the K/Ubuntu programs or apps lists etc, though I would like to
have a go myself.

> Out of interest, as a KDE user am I excluded from producing this (or
> should I start doing Kubuntu-specific ones?)

yes please I mostly prefer Kubuntu even though kde is a bit overweight.

> Do we want more than one
> voice? Or are you the "Voice of Ubuntu-UK"!?  Glamorous.

charity calendar pictures in swimsuits?  :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:43:03PM +, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On 09/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:59:05PM +, alan c wrote:
> > Cool, don't forget to make suggestions as to what you think should go in 
> > them. I'm basically
> > working through my own list, but if anyone suggests *simple* topics for 
> > recording I'll consider
> > it.
> 
> How about a How-To Screencast on how to create a screencast?
> 

:)

> Mmmm. Recursive screencasting.
> 

Watch it the Hashlugradio guys will turn and start shouting "Meta!" at you :)

> Seriously though, it might come in handy for the rest of us to give it a shot?
> 

Yeah. It should be top of the list really, along with how to play them back. 
Needs a little 
planning, so will have stab at it maybe at the weekend. To be honest this one 
is probably best 
done as a how-to with oodles of screenshots rather than a video. It's going to 
get awfully messy 
recording a recording.

> Out of interest, as a KDE user am I excluded from producing this (or
> should I start doing Kubuntu-specific ones?)

Not at all! I only know gnome or should that be "gnow gnome"? As such I don't 
think I could 
speak authoritatively about Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu. So by all means give it a 
shot, this is by 
no means a one-man operation.

>  Do we want more than one voice?

I guess it doesn't matter does it?

I have set myself some standards, I'm a *bit* of a perfectionist when it comes 
to these 
screencasts, so from my point of view I know what I would do and what I would 
like. But it's 
not my "show", it's a community effort, I just happen to have made the first 
one. I would like 
nothing more than a bunch of other people to do this. 

So long as the result is clear and understandable I don't think it matters who 
does the 
voiceover.

> Or are you the "Voice of Ubuntu-UK"!?  Glamorous.
> 

Better than being the "Voice of the balls" I guess (national lottery reference).

> I like this group, things get done. Long may it continue.
> 

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 09/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:59:05PM +, alan c wrote:
> Cool, don't forget to make suggestions as to what you think should go in 
> them. I'm basically
> working through my own list, but if anyone suggests *simple* topics for 
> recording I'll consider
> it.

How about a How-To Screencast on how to create a screencast?

Mmmm. Recursive screencasting.

Seriously though, it might come in handy for the rest of us to give it a shot?

Out of interest, as a KDE user am I excluded from producing this (or
should I start doing Kubuntu-specific ones?) Do we want more than one
voice? Or are you the "Voice of Ubuntu-UK"!?  Glamorous.

I like this group, things get done. Long may it continue.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:59:05PM +, alan c wrote:
> Nicholas Butler wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > In my mind I feel that we could do with something like a new member 
> > information pack something which at first does not intimidate with a 
> > plethora of things to know but also can serve as a jumping off point 
> > from FAQs ( these vary in their usefulness ! ) to Wikis ( Which can 
> > become very overwhelming ) and Pod/Screen casts.
> 
> I would appreciate having the files available to burn onto a CD to
> offer at Computer fairs  etc etc when also offering K/Ubuntu CDs.
> 

Good idea. Okay, what I'll do is when there's about a CD full - enough to make 
it worthwhile - 
and enough to have a range of newbie topics covered - I'll make an ISO that has 
them all on. I 
can also put an autostarting page on it to show how to play them under Windows 
and/or Linux. 
It's unlikely to be any time before christmas at this rate. I reckon I can 
churn out about one a 
night if they are fairly short and are easy for me to do.

> A how-to video/s such as these will jump start more than a newbies
> knowledge. It adds a very powerful credibility to what they may
> hopefully already have heard - it is not a distro from Mars, it is for
> human beings.

Cool, don't forget to make suggestions as to what you think should go in them. 
I'm basically 
working through my own list, but if anyone suggests *simple* topics for 
recording I'll consider 
it. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:30:54PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
>> I am also currently uploading the video to Google, as I believe this can 
>> help raise the 
> 
> It's live already:-
> 
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=453662309640788290&hl=en-GB

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:37:25PM +, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I've just watched the screen cast and thought it was really good! Don't 
>> really think you need to make any changes to the splash screen, although 
>> with the idea of pretty as a feature being thrown around by Mark 
>> Shuttleworth and the like maybe it would be a nice extra (although I 
>> have zero artistic talent myself!).
>> 
> 
> Ok, that's good to hear.
> 
>> I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I 
>> really think any one making them should post them to 
>> http://ubuntuclips.org/ as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating 
>> efforts. Just a thought.
>> 
> 
> I have mixed feelings about this.
> 
> Firstly ubuntuclips state that the videos submitted to them should *not* be 
> full resolution 
> videos, but should be clips of part of the screen. Part of this is for 
> readability and 
> partly for size of download. I am of the opinon that screencasts should 
> (where possible) 
> show full screen video that allows the viewer to see the entire desktop. 
> Clipping and 
> cropping chunks off means they don't see the full deal of what's going on, 
> and the video 
> maker has to keep moving popup windows and dialogs around to get them in the 
> viewing port.
> 
> I also feel that there should be some consistency between the videos, that 
> they should have 
> boilerplates at the start and end so that you know what video is what from 
> the preview 
> dialog, and the video gets a branding.

very much, yes, it is newbies who are looking, with windows shutters
on the eyelids. When anxious they will try to follow exact
instructions. I know, I used to either click yes to everything (note
1), or when push came to shove, try to be blindly exact.

Note 1: Linux cured me of this habit..
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread alan c
Nicholas Butler wrote:

[...]

> In my mind I feel that we could do with something like a new member 
> information pack something which at first does not intimidate with a 
> plethora of things to know but also can serve as a jumping off point 
> from FAQs ( these vary in their usefulness ! ) to Wikis ( Which can 
> become very overwhelming ) and Pod/Screen casts.

I would appreciate having the files available to burn onto a CD to
offer at Computer fairs  etc etc when also offering K/Ubuntu CDs.

A how-to video/s such as these will jump start more than a newbies
knowledge. It adds a very powerful credibility to what they may
hopefully already have heard - it is not a distro from Mars, it is for
human beings.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Nicholas Butler

> A guy in the states does a podcast called Linux Reality. 
> http://linuxreality.com/ . He does an 
> excellent job of covering Linux based stuff in an audio only format. It can 
> be a little dry at 
>   
True story:  I had no idea who Ted Heagar ( reverented.wordpress.com ) 
was when we were having dinner at Lugradio Live 2006. So when I asked 
people what were theyre favourite podcasts and what do the listen too I 
didnt appreciate the rye smiles around the table, sigh. Ilove this Linux 
stuff but im not into like a gazillion things. So anyway a topic or a 
page on the wiki I wonder where we all get our inspiration and new ideas 
and help from ?

Now most will say the usual , Google is my friend , but I know that 
sometimes its a little more than that. We all have special Podcasts, 
Websites and Channels where we know we can get help from so  I think we 
should book mark this as well.

In my mind I feel that we could do with something like a new member 
information pack something which at first does not intimidate with a 
plethora of things to know but also can serve as a jumping off point 
from FAQs ( these vary in their usefulness ! ) to Wikis ( Which can 
become very overwhelming ) and Pod/Screen casts.

Since the first meeting I felt it was clear that the majority concern 
was on reducing new user overload on existing members by ensuring that 
they can get lots of help without requiring plenty of handholding. If we 
are considering a more formal working on  the Ubuntu Buddy idea then 
this collation of "stuff" will serve as a good bookmark for them also.

So anyway thats my 2cents, thanks for reading.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 04:18:38PM +, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Are you hosting them on your own server (&bandwidth)? If so, you may
> want to look at using coralcache (& Apache rewrite rules) to reduce
> your bandwidth a little.

Yes, currently they're on my own paid for hosting. This is fine for now, I can 
cope with 
the few downloads / views they're getting at the moment (even when someone 
*does* submit it 
to some social networking link site O_O ). However, long term there are other 
options. 
Archive.org (ourmedia) host for free community based videos. Hampshire Linux 
User Group 
host their talks on archive.org. In addition there's the hosting on Google 
which will 
likely reduce the number of downloads as many people prefer to watch flash 
videos than 
download hulking great blobs. Each to their own of course, and they'll clearly 
benefit from 
the quality of the OGG version.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 09/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 03:27:31PM +, Tony Arnold wrote:
> > I certainly think we should find an Ubuntu branded home for these screen
> > casts, if only so we all have a single place to look for such things and
> > don't have to remember/bookmark different URLs.
> >
> > I have no idea where the right place would be though.
> >
>
> Ok, I'll keep cranking them out and we'll see what we can do for hosting. We 
> can copy them
> to wherever at any time. I'm happy to host them in the interim.

Is there a place on the wiki/ubuntu-uk homepage with links to all
this? Might be a good thing to get started if not?  On a related note,
perhaps the main page should have direct links to areas of the wiki
with particular purpose - rather than just "wiki" (which will mean
very little to new people).

Are you hosting them on your own server (&bandwidth)? If so, you may
want to look at using coralcache (& Apache rewrite rules) to reduce
your bandwidth a little.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 04:13:50PM +, Stuart Parkington wrote:
> >> I certainly think we should find an Ubuntu branded home for these screen
> >> casts,
> 
> I think eventually a Ubuntu branded home would certainly be best. If 
> nothing else Alan's credits screen at the end of the 'case would then 
> point viewers in the direction of the main Ubuntu site.
> 

Rebranding can be done very easily. I have the audio track and the central 
video too. I can 
easily re-make the credits screens and replace the ones in the videos we have 
already. 
Obviously it would be nice to get it right now rather than someone come along 
after I have 
made 20 and ask to change the look of them. That's why I'm keen for someone 
else to take a 
look at the design side of them. However as our illustrious leader says JFDI 
(Jump Forward, 
Dive In or Just Fscking Do It) is the maxim of the group, so I am doing that :)

> Top job Alan BTW.
> 

Thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Stuart Parkington
>> I certainly think we should find an Ubuntu branded home for these screen
>> casts,

I think eventually a Ubuntu branded home would certainly be best. If 
nothing else Alan's credits screen at the end of the 'case would then 
point viewers in the direction of the main Ubuntu site.

Top job Alan BTW.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 03:27:31PM +, Tony Arnold wrote:
> I certainly think we should find an Ubuntu branded home for these screen
> casts, if only so we all have a single place to look for such things and
> don't have to remember/bookmark different URLs.
> 
> I have no idea where the right place would be though.
> 

Ok, I'll keep cranking them out and we'll see what we can do for hosting. We 
can copy them 
to wherever at any time. I'm happy to host them in the interim.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan,

Alan Pope wrote:

> I've made this one available in both OGG/Theora/Vorbis and MPEG/MPEG2/MP2 
> format. Hopefully this 
> should mean people can play it with little or no effort on any platform. I'd 
> be interested to 
> hear feedback from people about platforms and/or players they play on and 
> don't play on.
> 
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.ogg (10.7MB)
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.mpeg (34.4MB)

Excellent screen cast. You have the right voice for this kind of thing!

To play this on my systems that use the i810 graphics driver, I had to
add the following two lines to the Device section of my xorg.conf:

VideoRam65536
Option "CacheLines" "1980"

Otherewise totem bombs out with a BadAlloc error message from the X
server. I think the CacheLines option is probably more critical than the
VideRam entry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Tony Arnold


Jonathan Roberts wrote:

> I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I 
> really think any one making them should post them to 
> http://ubuntuclips.org/ as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating 
> efforts. Just a thought.

I certainly think we should find an Ubuntu branded home for these screen
casts, if only so we all have a single place to look for such things and
don't have to remember/bookmark different URLs.

I have no idea where the right place would be though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:37:25PM +, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I've just watched the screen cast and thought it was really good! Don't 
> really think you need to make any changes to the splash screen, although 
> with the idea of pretty as a feature being thrown around by Mark 
> Shuttleworth and the like maybe it would be a nice extra (although I 
> have zero artistic talent myself!).
> 

Ok, that's good to hear.

> I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I 
> really think any one making them should post them to 
> http://ubuntuclips.org/ as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating 
> efforts. Just a thought.
> 

I have mixed feelings about this.

Firstly ubuntuclips state that the videos submitted to them should *not* be 
full resolution 
videos, but should be clips of part of the screen. Part of this is for 
readability and 
partly for size of download. I am of the opinon that screencasts should (where 
possible) 
show full screen video that allows the viewer to see the entire desktop. 
Clipping and 
cropping chunks off means they don't see the full deal of what's going on, and 
the video 
maker has to keep moving popup windows and dialogs around to get them in the 
viewing port.

I also feel that there should be some consistency between the videos, that they 
should have 
boilerplates at the start and end so that you know what video is what from the 
preview 
dialog, and the video gets a branding.

I chose 1024x768 as the standard resolution for my videos becuase it seems to 
be the 
minimum that will allow people to see a reasonable sized desktop. With many 
people having 
1024x768 or higher resolutions they will be able to see it full screen in a 
movie player or 
in a window whilst they do other stuff. I thought that any smaller and things 
would feel 
cramped in the window.

These are of course decisions I arbitrarily made having seen lots of 
screencasts online and 
figured (possibly incorrectly) that I could do better. :)

> Well done!
> 

Thank you Jon for the kind words and feedback.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-09 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Hey,

I've just watched the screen cast and thought it was really good! Don't 
really think you need to make any changes to the splash screen, although 
with the idea of pretty as a feature being thrown around by Mark 
Shuttleworth and the like maybe it would be a nice extra (although I 
have zero artistic talent myself!).

I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I 
really think any one making them should post them to 
http://ubuntuclips.org/ as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating 
efforts. Just a thought.

Well done!

Jon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-08 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:01:51AM +, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote:
> It's nicely done & comes over very professionally / easy to follow.

Thamks!

> One problem I have though is that the video quality makes it sometimes
> impossible to read what's actually on the screen - especially large
> lines of text strangely. Is this a Google streaming issue / down to my
> connection or is the file uploaded to Google of similar quality?
> 

It's totally down to it being re-encoded to flash for google. If you try the 
other links to the 
OGG or MPEG feed you'll note it's dramatically better. Almost as good as it 
being your own 
desktop.

> That aside it's still easy to follow visually what is happening / what
> to do - which I guess is the aim here.  The commentary clears
> everything up.  Out of interest has anyone ever done an audio-only
> guide for these sorts of things?  Wonder if that would work as podcast
> / net radio "lesson broadcast"?  Keep it up.  I must give one of these
> a go once I can get over hearing my own voice recorded.
> 

A guy in the states does a podcast called Linux Reality. 
http://linuxreality.com/ . He does an 
excellent job of covering Linux based stuff in an audio only format. It can be 
a little dry at 
times, but he does his absolute best to describe what's going on on screen. I 
guess it's best to 
listen while you actually try the applications and distros he is talking about.

> On a related point - has anyone ever put together an equivalent of the
> "Little book of..." things for a Linux distribution.  It occurred to
> me that a little handbook covering installation and the first few
> steps might make a helpful hand-out along with CDs.  Just got me
> thinking.
> 

The O'Reilly book "Ubuntu Hacks" is pretty good. It has a load of small 
baby-step type 
tutorials. Very nice book.

> Lastly after migrating to KDE and wanting my double-panels back, I've
> completed a guide to making the Kubuntu/KDE desktop look
> identical(ish) to Ubuntu/Gnome.  It's available here:
> 
> http://www.mutube.com/node/55
> 

That's pretty neat! I don't use KDE, only Gnome, so if we continue with these 
screencasts then 
someone else will probably have to do the KDE ones, becuase I just don't know 
it well enough to 
spout about it. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-08 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 08/11/06, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:30:54PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
> > I am also currently uploading the video to Google, as I believe this can 
> > help raise the
> It's live already:-
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=453662309640788290&hl=en-GB

I just realised I've never actually seen a screencast demo before.

It's nicely done & comes over very professionally / easy to follow.
One problem I have though is that the video quality makes it sometimes
impossible to read what's actually on the screen - especially large
lines of text strangely. Is this a Google streaming issue / down to my
connection or is the file uploaded to Google of similar quality?

That aside it's still easy to follow visually what is happening / what
to do - which I guess is the aim here.  The commentary clears
everything up.  Out of interest has anyone ever done an audio-only
guide for these sorts of things?  Wonder if that would work as podcast
/ net radio "lesson broadcast"?  Keep it up.  I must give one of these
a go once I can get over hearing my own voice recorded.

On a related point - has anyone ever put together an equivalent of the
"Little book of..." things for a Linux distribution.  It occurred to
me that a little handbook covering installation and the first few
steps might make a helpful hand-out along with CDs.  Just got me
thinking.

Lastly after migrating to KDE and wanting my double-panels back, I've
completed a guide to making the Kubuntu/KDE desktop look
identical(ish) to Ubuntu/Gnome.  It's available here:

http://www.mutube.com/node/55

It starts out making the double panel setup and then continues to add
Ubuntu icons and wallpapers for completeness. Feedback & suggestions
welcome and I'll credit where it's due (with a cheeky link to
ubuntu-uk in the bargain).

Martin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-08 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:53:48PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> That sounds good.  I'll take a look at it tomorrow at work and show a 
> couple of the non-Linux users and see what they think.
> 

Excellent idea. They're target audience as far as I'm concerned.

> Having it available in MPEG 2 format should make it easy enough to 
> convert into a DVD when we have a few of these tutorial videos.
> 

MMmmm HD-DVD :)

> I'm hoping to do an Ubuntu install for one of the guys at work.  I 
> showed him Ubuntu on my work laptop (running the Dapper i386 Live CD) 
> and he seemed impressed.  If he does go for Ubuntu on his PC then I 
> could write down any questions he may have as I think a new Ubuntu user 
> would be the best sort of person to come up with ideas for what could be 
> screencasted.
> 

Now that is a superb idea. I like the thought that these things come out of 
suggestions from 
real people who have these questions rather than just plucked out of my hat.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-08 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thought I'd have another go at a screencast. This one is about installing 
> updates as and when 
> required. It's only 7 mins long and doesn't go into massive detail, but shows 
> the basics of 
> installing updates on Ubuntu. I added the header and footer at the start and 
> end. I'm not 
> entirely happy with them but it will do. If someone else has more artistic 
> skills than me (not 
> difficult) then please feel free to put together a simple slide.
>
> I've made this one available in both OGG/Theora/Vorbis and MPEG/MPEG2/MP2 
> format. Hopefully this 
> should mean people can play it with little or no effort on any platform. I'd 
> be interested to 
> hear feedback from people about platforms and/or players they play on and 
> don't play on.
>
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.ogg (10.7MB)
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061108_installing_updates.mpeg (34.4MB)
>
> I am also currently uploading the video to Google, as I believe this can help 
> raise the 
> visibility of the team - I clearly mention ubuntu-uk and the URL is shown in 
> the video and the 
> text accompanying the Google upload. Having it on Google makes for a very low 
> barrier to entry 
> for Windows users to watch these, and whilst flash player is evil and closed, 
> at least it can be 
> made to work on Ubuntu. 
>
> If anyone is in any doubt about the popularity of Google video for this kind 
> of thing then bear 
> in mind that I uploaded all the Hampshire Linux User Group talk videos and in 
> the 3 months 
> they've been online there's been a total of around 12000 views and 2000 
> downloads.
>
> These are "beginner level" at the moment. So I won't be surprised if nobody 
> here 
> actually learns anything from them yet. Right now I'm trying to get a handle 
> on the process to 
> make it clear and easy for others to do this. 
>
> It's a little time consuming the first time you do this, but once you have 
> the process nailed 
> you can probably knock out a good quality 5-10 min screencast in around an 
> hour. That includes 
> watching it a couple of times too.
>
> In case you're interested in the technical side, I used a different 
> application this time. 
> xvidcap (available from http://xvidcap.sf.net) version 1.1.4. It records to a 
> large number of 
> formats, but I chose MPEG2 to make it easy to edit the video and then convert 
> to other formats 
> later.
>
> I then used avidemux to piece together the three videos (the title page, the 
> main 
> body of the video and the end page), which was mind numbingly easy to do. 
>
> Next I used audacity to record the audio - which I did on one computer whilst 
> I watched the 
> video on another. Of course there's no reason I couldn't have recorded the 
> audio at the time of 
> the recording, or recorded it as I watched on one computer - not two. However 
> as I have 
> mentioned before, I believe that recording the audio after the video gives a 
> better result. 
> Indeed I had to record it 5 times in the end due to various 
> mistakes/mishaps/outtakes.
>
> I then cleaned the audio up as best I could (not brilliantly, but clear 
> enough I think), again 
> in audacity, and exported as a WAV. 
>
> Avidemux was used to mix the video and WAV audio and save as MPEG2 video (no 
> change) and encode 
> the audio as MP2. That made the final MPEG version above.  
>
> Finally I ran ffmpeg2theora on the command line with just the MPEG video as a 
> command line 
> parameter, to convert it to the OGG format above.
>
> Job done.
>
> Clearly the MPEG version is considerably larger than the OGG because it's not 
> compressed as 
> heavily. I could have re-encoded it using something like DivX for the Windows 
> viewers, which I 
> guess would probably play on many Windows clients - although not out of the 
> box - and media 
> player won't download the DivX codec automagically as I understand it. So the 
> compromise is a 
> heavy weight MPEG video for them, a nice lightweight OGG for us. :)
>
> Having the original in MPEG2 format should make moving these to DVD easier 
> too.
>
> I'll write up a proper how-to once I am sure this is the best method for this 
> kind of thing. I 
> appreciate that others might suggest different packages which may look 
> simpler from the outset, 
> right now I think this is the best method so far. It relies only on packages 
> that are 
> pre-compiled, and mostly (except for the ffmpeg2theora) uses GUI based 
> applications.
>
> Cheers,
> Al
That sounds good.  I'll take a look at it tomorrow at work and show a 
couple of the non-Linux users and see what they think.

Having it available in MPEG 2 format should make it easy enough to 
convert into a DVD when we have a few of these tutorial videos.

I'm hoping to do an Ubuntu install for one of the guys at work.  I 
showed him Ubuntu on my work laptop (running the Dapper i386 Live CD) 
and he seemed impressed.  If he does go for Ubuntu on his PC then I 
could wri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates

2006-11-08 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:30:54PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
> I am also currently uploading the video to Google, as I believe this can help 
> raise the 

It's live already:-

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=453662309640788290&hl=en-GB

Cheers,
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