Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 11 October 2011 12:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is Ubuntu One broken on 10.04? The Windows app works and synchronises with
 the internet - I can't get it to synchronise on 10.04.
 Is there a repair, or a workaround?
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Did you install it from Software Centre? What do your synchronised folders
look like on your machine? Does the Ubuntu One client look like it's syncing
files?

s/




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread James Tait

On 11/10/11 12:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

Is Ubuntu One broken on 10.04? The Windows app works and synchronises
with the internet - I can't get it to synchronise on 10.04.


We're not aware of any current service issues.  Normally we will list 
issues on our Service Status page [0] and broadcast them on our Twitter 
[1] and identi.ca [2] streams as soon as we become aware of them.


There may be some information in the FAQs [3] that can help to diagnose 
this, otherwise you can contact Support [4] who will be able to help out.


Cheers,

JT

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[1] http://twitter.com/UbuntuOne
[2] http://identi.ca/ubuntuone
[3] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/
[4] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 11/10/2011 12:41, Simon Greenwood wrote:
On 11 October 2011 12:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:


Is Ubuntu One broken on 10.04? The Windows app works and
synchronises with the internet - I can't get it to synchronise on
10.04.
Is there a repair, or a workaround?
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Did you install it from Software Centre?


Yes.
What do your synchronised folders look like on your machine? Does the 
Ubuntu One client look like it's syncing files?




They look just like ordinary folders.
What seems to be happening is this:
If I add or remove a file from Ubuntu One in Windows or 10.04, the 
change is made on the website almost instantaneously.
It then takes what seems to me to be an inordinate length of time to 
then reflect that change on the other machine which is linked to Ubuntu 
One, is on and is connected to the internet. This can be anything from 6 
to 10 minutes


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 11 October 2011 14:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 11/10/2011 12:41, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 On 11 October 2011 12:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

  Is Ubuntu One broken on 10.04? The Windows app works and synchronises
 with the internet - I can't get it to synchronise on 10.04.
 Is there a repair, or a workaround?
 --


  Did you install it from Software Centre?


 Yes.

  What do your synchronised folders look like on your machine? Does the
 Ubuntu One client look like it's syncing files?


  They look just like ordinary folders.
 What seems to be happening is this:
 If I add or remove a file from Ubuntu One in Windows or 10.04, the change
 is made on the website almost instantaneously.
 It then takes what seems to me to be an inordinate length of time to then
 reflect that change on the other machine which is linked to Ubuntu One, is
 on and is connected to the internet. This can be anything from 6 to 10
 minutes


As far as I remember, synching isn't simultaneous and there is a polling
interval, which I think is ten minutes. I'm sure James will be able to
confirm that.

s/



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 11/10/2011 14:27, Simon Greenwood wrote:

there is a polling interval, which I think is ten minutes.



I did look so see if there was, but couldn't find anything. But how does 
that fit with the website being updated almost immediately, or might 
that just be co-incidence?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread James Tait

On 11/10/11 14:27, Simon Greenwood wrote:

As far as I remember, synching isn't simultaneous and there is a polling
interval, which I think is ten minutes. I'm sure James will be able to
confirm that.


I actually work on the server side, specifically the web interface, and 
know embarrassingly little about the desktop client.


I do know at a fairly high level, though, that the desktop client 
maintains a connection to the Ubuntu One servers and monitors 
synchronised directories for changes.


Those changes are then synchronised on the server (hence they appear 
instantaneously in the web interface) and a signal is sent to all 
connected clients, causing them to download the updated files.  You can 
see all this in your syncdaemon log in $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log or in 
the syncdaemon source code, if you're so inclined.


There are lots of reasons why the updates might not be happening as 
quickly as expected, including network flakiness, network traffic or 
system load at either end or in between, server updates, service outages


As a test, I created a file on my Natty desktop in a folder I have 
shared with my wife and it appeared on her desktop within a few minutes 
of resuming from suspend.


JT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 11/10/2011 17:43, James Tait wrote:

On 11/10/11 14:27, Simon Greenwood wrote:

As far as I remember, synching isn't simultaneous and there is a polling
interval, which I think is ten minutes. I'm sure James will be able to
confirm that.


I actually work on the server side, specifically the web interface, 
and know embarrassingly little about the desktop client.


I do know at a fairly high level, though, that the desktop client 
maintains a connection to the Ubuntu One servers and monitors 
synchronised directories for changes.


Those changes are then synchronised on the server (hence they appear 
instantaneously in the web interface) and a signal is sent to all 
connected clients, causing them to download the updated files.  You 
can see all this in your syncdaemon log in $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log 
or in the syncdaemon source code, if you're so inclined.


There are lots of reasons why the updates might not be happening as 
quickly as expected, including network flakiness, network traffic or 
system load at either end or in between, server updates, service 
outages


As a test, I created a file on my Natty desktop in a folder I have 
shared with my wife and it appeared on her desktop within a few 
minutes of resuming from suspend.


JT


Thanks for that information - its gone a long way to answering my questions.
On an aside, do you know if there are any plans to introduce LAN 
synching, like Dropbox? Now that IS instantaneous between different 
machines...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu One broken on 10.04?

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Sturdy
On 11 October 2011 08:41, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 11/10/2011 14:27, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 there is a polling interval, which I think is ten minutes.

 I did look so see if there was, but couldn't find anything. But how does
 that fit with the website being updated almost immediately, or might that
 just be co-incidence?


Meta-items such as Folders are updated at a different speed to real
files (eg .ogg s).  There's more detail here:

https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/why-are-only-folders-uploaded-but-not-files-39/

Also, on 11.04 I keep an eye on what is going on using the command line
tool: *u1sdtool*
*
*
*u1sdtool -s* for system status
*u1sdtool --waiting* to see what is waiting to be uploaded
*u1sdtool --current-transfers* to see what is being uploaded or downloaded
at the moment.

I added around 15Gb of content to my synched folders and it took a few days
of me leaving it overnight to get everything online... but once it's there
it recognises new files and file changes almost instantaneously (~ 5s).

matt
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