Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
Wayne Roberts wrote: can somebody suggest an alternative to windows ( sorry) home server using ubuntu (of course) thanks wayne What exactly do you want to acheve? Just a basic server to store files on? Can't say I know what the specific features of Windows Home Server are (apart from that annoying file corruption bug). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
sorry should have mentioned that, here's the specs for windows home server, web server, ftp server (via add-in), backup store, abbility to stream music and video. On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 19:43 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Wayne Roberts wrote: can somebody suggest an alternative to windows ( sorry) home server using ubuntu (of course) thanks wayne What exactly do you want to acheve? Just a basic server to store files on? Can't say I know what the specific features of Windows Home Server are (apart from that annoying file corruption bug). Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
There is a distro called slampp i think. Which will do the majority of that other than streaming but you can do that with vlc. Daniel Original message From: Wayne Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server sorry should have mentioned that, here's the specs for windows home server, web server, ftp server (via add-in), backup store, abbility to stream music and video. On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 19:43 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Wayne Roberts wrote: can somebody suggest an alternative to windows ( sorry) home server using ubuntu (of course) thanks wayne What exactly do you want to acheve? Just a basic server to store files on? Can't say I know what the specific features of Windows Home Server are (apart from that annoying file corruption bug). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
i am downloading slampp now,any other suggestions? On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 20:20 +, Daniel Lamb wrote: There is a distro called slampp i think. Which will do the majority of that other than streaming but you can do that with vlc. Daniel Original message From: Wayne Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server sorry should have mentioned that, here's the specs for windows home server, web server, ftp server (via add-in), backup store, abbility to stream music and video. On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 19:43 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Wayne Roberts wrote: can somebody suggest an alternative to windows ( sorry) home server using ubuntu (of course) thanks wayne What exactly do you want to acheve? Just a basic server to store files on? Can't say I know what the specific features of Windows Home Server are (apart from that annoying file corruption bug). Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Wayne Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am downloading slampp now,any other suggestions? GNUMP3d is a good application, can be installed via command line in Ubuntu, can be configured to contain a whole directory of music, and other files, I highly recommend it :) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows home server
Wayne Roberts wrote: sorry should have mentioned that, here's the specs for windows home server, web server, ftp server (via add-in), backup store, abbility to stream music and video. Ahh in that case, I guess installing Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS Server with the LAMP option which will give you the web server (along with PHP and MySQL), add Samba and an FTP server (not sure which one is the best as I don't use FTP). Where you say the ability to stream music and video, you should be able to do that in Windows by connecting to the Samba share and opening the files (works lovely on my network even with my fairly old slow server - it's enough to play HD video). Otherwise as I mentioned earlier, there is also SME Server (www.contribs.org) which will do all that out of the box too with a simple web interface. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
On 10/4/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-server https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. Where does Obuntu fit in with this (https://launchpad.net/~obuntu)? Is UbuntuEasyBusinessServer the new name for Obuntu or are they two different competing versions? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Hi Colin, On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 07:57 +0100, Colin McCarthy wrote: On 10/4/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Obuntu fit in with this (https://launchpad.net/~obuntu)? Is UbuntuEasyBusinessServer the new name for Obuntu or are they two different competing versions? Funny you should mention that. I started Obuntu. The idea behind it was very similar to UEBS and other products of its ilk like ebox. Once UEBS was announced (very shortly after we started Obuntu) I decided to put it on hold as it made no sense investing time and money in it when Canonical themselves had employed someone to work on UEBS. Once UEBS ships I guess we'll think again about whether to develop Obuntu or not. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 17:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server Hi David, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 16:41 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Is this a joke? If by joke you mean yet another version of windows which has a subtly different set of tools installed than other versions already available, then yes, it's a belter that Jimmy Tarbuck would be proud of! Ubuntu with webmin (if you want to be more serious) on it or running gnome with some utilities would be a hell of a lot better than this. Shame webmin is no longer maintained in debian or (hence) ubuntu. There is of course the Ubuntu server project which (AIUI) uses ebox for it's admin core which could certainly do _some_ of what this does. Setting up a home server on Ubuntu isn't actually that hard. We have RAID for redundancy built in, LVM for disk space extension, SMB and NFS for sharing, backup software, mail servers and webservers, and remote access tools too. It just needs all tying together really in once neat package which is pretty much what Microsoft have done with Home Server. This is a very basic server, something you should be able to run on an old box not running a new machine. Heh. Yeah. I have a server at home. Well technically I have two. One runs ipcop and that's my DHCP, DNS, (transparent) proxy, and all round gateway to the web. The other is running Ubuntu as a file server, ssh server (to let me get into the house via ssh when I am not at home) and backup server. It also holds my local copy of the Ubuntu repos so that all my machines update from that. Both are old Dell desktops of this spec:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo cpu MHz : 398.801 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 190972 kB Sweet! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Windows is boring and to easy, plus if there was an easy install for Ubuntu on a samba server then more would adopt it (which is in 7.10), but I think people will get scared off by the commandline versions as they wont understand that it can be administered remotely. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Ah but most people who work in IT only use Windows Servers and Desktops so I'm guessing it'd be a natural extension of that for them to buy into a Windows Home Server for their backups, DVDs etc ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Ah but most people who work in IT only use Windows Servers and Desktops so I'm guessing it'd be a natural extension of that for them to buy into a Windows Home Server for their backups, DVDs etc ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I'm about to start playing with an old Qube. I'm not sure how many of the people on this lists would have heard of them - but I'll post a review once I'm done. They're old linux technology - but a similar software based approach for ubuntu server is, I think, what we all want :) On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:28:34 +0100, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Windows is boring and to easy, plus if there was an easy install for Ubuntu on a samba server then more would adopt it (which is in 7.10), but I think people will get scared off by the commandline versions as they wont understand that it can be administered remotely. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel Well I suppose it depends on where you work I guess. I work for a reasonably large (130 staff or so looking after mabey 5000 desktops and a couple of hundred servers) IT department which has (unfortunately) standardised on Windows. I reckon less than 5% of them would use Linux in any form :-( In fact I think the only Linux servers that are used, are ones I look after! I've had to stop talking about it at service meetings etc though as people's eyes glaze over. At least I have you guys as an outlet though ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. -- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Hi Daniel, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 19:50 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Do you work on the Planet Tux perchance? :) Back here on planet Earth I find it surprising how many people know about Linux, and even more surprising how many people know about and even use Ubuntu. However in all the customers I have been to over the last say 2 years I still encounter plenty of Microsofties in the IT industry. I guess everyone has different experience, but to suggest that everyone who works in IT would be happy with a Linux box at home is possibly pushing it a bit :) The home server is indeed a nice idea. I know of plenty of people who have issues that could be made easier with one of them. People don't backup, don't have remote access to their machines, don't store files centrally. This kind of thing would be perfect for them. Of course those of us who work in IT can roll our own systems and put them in to peoples homes and offices, but there's nothing quite like a boxed solution to these things is there? Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-server https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Haha well talk away, my clients love talking about linux, they don't understand this whole opensource/free thing, think its mental even though I have explained about support etc. Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:57 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel Well I suppose it depends on where you work I guess. I work for a reasonably large (130 staff or so looking after mabey 5000 desktops and a couple of hundred servers) IT department which has (unfortunately) standardised on Windows. I reckon less than 5% of them would use Linux in any form :-( In fact I think the only Linux servers that are used, are ones I look after! I've had to stop talking about it at service meetings etc though as people's eyes glaze over. At least I have you guys as an outlet though ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Not really as both are web based utilites I mean just a stripped out Ubuntu with just samba and backup configuration tool any maybe a little more. I think ebox and easy business server are brilliant for me and you but not for joe public, who wants something easy to use, and linux gives them something to be proud of. Back to my comment about everyone, obviously not everyone but noone has a bad word to say about linux and would try it don't meet many folk who like Microsoft, just the people who are doing a job not actually into computers its cool to use linux!! And its cool to be a geek!! Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 20:20 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-serv er https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-server https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. The Ubuntu Easy Business Server sounds good. One of my servers (mail server running on VMWare on Ubuntu Server) is running SME Server (www.smeserver.org / www.contribs.org) which when I first started using it did everything I needed it to (mail server with webmail/imap mail, Samba file sharing to Windows machines / XBOX, printer sharing, proxy server to share internet access). I've found two things that really get on my nerves - one it's based on CentOS which although isn't a major thing, I really can't get on well with YUM (or anything based on RPM), and secondly it generally needs a reboot every time it has an update (it updates itself in the background but won't reboot itself and sometimes this causes big problems with the web interface etc). Now this Ubuntu server sounds like the sort of thing I'd certainly want to migrate to. I've spoken to a couple of people before who have expressed an interest in a PC which could be used to store media etc, one guy at work for instance wanted a box which he could put under the stairs, connect up a 250GB external USB hard drive and be able to access it from his laptop and store pictures, music and video on it and maybe password protect bits of it, where as someone like my dad would like to have a machine which he can store his business e-mails/documents on and access them on his laptop when he's away (over the internet). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
