[UC] Re: Philadelphia Historical Commission meeting agenda for 14 March 2008
In a message dated 3/10/2008 10:02:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Philadelphia Historical Commission will hold its 547th Stated Meeting at 9:00 a.m. on Friday, 14 March 2008 in Room 18-022 in the municipal office building at 1515 Arch Street (One Parkway). Please note the room change. The meeting is open to the public. On the agenda: 224 St. Mark's Square Jeffrey Heit and Luisa Boverini, Owner Jeffrey Heit, Applicant Construct rear deck, cut door, and legalize gate and parking area I don't know what the recommendation of the HC's Architectural Committee was. But it would be hard to imagine they or the Commission as a whole could find a problem with this application. The gate -- on Locust St -- actually fits better than what it replaced. And the proposed deck and altered doorway can only be seen from the upper stories of the Fairfax. Hopefully, the new Nutter members of the HC will be less punctilious than the Street people they replaced. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
Re: [UC] Zoning reform
Anthony West wrote: General bafflement among developers is relevant to the proposed hotel at 40th and pine if the proposed hotel at 40th Pine is being developed by a typical developer. If Tom Lussenhop is a typical developer, then deductive reasoning will teach you a lot about him. Study his nature as a developer, and you will learn important facts that will enable you to predict his motives and his behavior. Inductive reasoning, by contrast -- trying to figure out a developer's motives by scrutinizing his latest announcements -- won't work well in this case. Million-dollar developers are counseled to approach the community they aim to change with a stolid agreeability, at least in public. Neither Ray nor I can reasonably ask Tom what he's really up to, not even face to face and certainly not on line. It is impossible for either Ray or I to ask Lussenhop what he thinks about zoning regs in general, as long as he has a million-dollar project on the cutting-board. So the best way to learn what you don't know about zoning variances, is to learn the practical characteristics and motivations of people who must seek zoning variations. And you should talk to players who don 't have million-dollar projects on the line at that moment: they will be more candid and you will learn more. in your opinion, which of these classic looney tunes icons made the most sense? ___ porky pig ___ elmer fudd ___ foghorn leghorn .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Clark Park to follow Dutch lead??
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[UC] Sluggish Verizon Services
I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Zoning reform
Anyone can ask any questions they want. Answers may be refused, or may need to be absorbed with several grains of thought. Tony's suggestion, below, almost begs for an Ad Hominem attack on TL. I think we should stick to the reasons why the propsed project, in the proposed location is a poor fit. The project, as proposed, requires huge suspensions of our existing protections within current PUBLICLY RECORDED Zoning, Building and Historic Designations. In this location, at the Trolley Portal, where Highway and Institutions end and where Residential streets begin, it would permanently alter the first impression many travelers (and most Public Transportation travelers) receive of our STREETCAR SUBURB. 120 feet of Cement Fiber Tower would dominate our 35' Victorian street scape in ways that would detract from the current roof lines, chimney columns and Victorian materiel's. Despite references to a shadow study which illustrated, only one moment of the minutes of a year, and possibly did so honestly. (Although I seem to recall a contradictory slide presented by architect Mariana Thomas.) My own belief, based upon standing at the site, and looking at neighboring properties, is that neighboring back yards, gardens, and rooms that are currently blessed with light will be forever changed and dimmed. Traffic will be increased, mostly with negative impact upon the neighbors. Parking will become even more difficult. And the pretext, that there is any possibility of a sane vanishing point for parking in our country of cars and 'big oil' is beyond insulting to those who are being asked to bear the inconvenience and burden of this developer's folly. The questions of Garbage and Trash, and how much will be created by 120 residences and a 4,000 square foot Restaurant with Bar (and how it will be removed) is being dismissed with inadequate consideration of neighbor fears. The questions of access, during any emergency, are also blithely dismissed. One would think this was the Titanic, with the certainty the developers are showing that no abuse of neighbors, because of the proposed Zero Lot Lines, will ever occur. We can not afford to permit this precedent. What will be built on the parcel at the SE corner of 44th and Baltimore (currently the community garden across from Clark Park and the Green Line) if we permit a tiny residential lot to hold a 120' tower? The developers will gain more than we neighbors will lose. In my opinion the Zoning should side with the reluctant neighbors. The risks so outweigh any potential benefits, that this Zoning suitor should not be allowed to rape our neighborhood and strip away our existing rights. Many know how vigorously I oppose adding more restrictions, especially the type of arbitrary HD restrictions, for which enforcement is requested by nosy or fussy neighbors and decisions are made by a committee with a history of nepotism, inconsistent talent-understanding and mercurial temperament. This TL Tower proposal validates one of my points. We have protections in place (Zoning, Building Fire codes) that should be honored and enforced. These developers had open and public access to Height Restrictions, Zoning, Lot Lines and required Setbacks, BEFORE THEY BOUGHT. They purchased anyway. They have held the property for 5 years in a way that has harmed the neighborhood and permitted deterioration of the property. And now they insult us by trying to lead us around with carrots (we'll save the mansion facade) and sticks (you'll never get any business if you keep opposing us). And they insult us overtly and by bringing in experts with undisclosed conflicts of interest. Last week, someone posted that the onus is upon the applicant to make the case for change. The reality is it can't be done. And so, their is diversion to personalities and calling upon friendships and what is or isn't 'nice'. Let's remember that even in families, even where their is great love, the word NO has an important and valid place. We can not let one neighbor gain variances that will trample the rights of other neighbors. TL is seeking income, profit. Let him earn it fairly and within the rules. Don't get sucked into the tangential arguments. A new hotel is nice, and would be welcome on the Postal Lands, or on a larger lot on a more commercial street. Back to Tony's point. Tony West wrote: If Tom Lussenhop is a typical developer, then deductive reasoning will teach you a lot about him. Study his nature as a developer, and you will learn important facts that will enable you to predict his motives and his behavior. ... ... So the best way to learn what you don't know about zoning variances, is to learn the practical characteristics and motivations of people who must seek zoning variations. ... What do we know about the developer? My suggestion is, don't reduce what we have to line the pockets of someone who rejected
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services
My husband is our Family IT Guy. We recently discovered that in order to have a human being IT via Verizon, you have to pay an extra approximate $10 per month. So, we get an on line Q. This leads to a circle: if don't have service or crummy service and you want to find out why, the only information source is the media outlet that isn't working! I've asked our Family IT Guy about dumping the unused land line and getting wireless. Ix nay says FITG. We don't have cable and want to keep it that way. Upshot: we are stuck. It is a seller's market for DSL in our world. Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors Suzanne B. Anderson, MSW,LSW Somewhere in Texas a village is missing an Idiot. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services
Hi Joe Wow, I didn't know about the dry loop and the getting hosed for $70 a month ... for DSL? I had Verizon DSL for about 2 weeks. First, the company truly is NOT customer friendly. It was one delay after another. Finally got the green light that my DSL was activated only to find out that my phone jack was too far from the modem ... so there was more money to have them come out and set up another jack. Went through I think? 3 modems in that 2 week period that I actually had the service. They kept overheating to the point you couldn't touch them without almost being burned. The last straw was the fact that the DSL service itself, whilte Verizon kept saying there was nothing wrong, never got past dial-up speeds. And I don't even mean 56kb, it was slower than that! Yes, had to sit on the phone forever each time I called and when I cancelled it took forever. Horrible service, horrible customer service IMHO. I'm waiting to see if they ever do decide to run FIOS around here. I've heard no (not the right kind of neighborhood, i.e.: suburban) and I've heard yes. So, we'll see. For now, I'm staying with Comcast. Liked it much better when it was RoadRunner tbh. Wireless? not gonna happen here. Wendy On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
Accurate information [was: Re: [UC] Zoning reform]
In a message dated 3/10/08 12:24:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The questions of access, during any emergency, are also blithely dismissed. One would think this was the Titanic, with the certainty the developers are showing that no abuse of neighbors, because of the proposed Zero Lot Lines, will ever occur. Hi, Liz, this access comment of yours has puzzled me, especially now that you say you've stood on the site. You've mentioned before that the proposed new inn would block fire access across the rear of the site. I don't think it's accurate to say that the new building would change the rear access to the property. There is already pretty close to a zero lot line in the rear. You can see this in slide 4 slide 7 of the Atkin Olshin Schade presentation, on line at http://www.campusinnuc.com/ The 1960 drawing in slide 7 shows that that cinder block rear building is 4' from the rear property line, and the bird's-eye view in slide 4 shows that the cinder block building is at least one story tall. Have you ever seen a fire engine less than 4' wide, or one that can jump onto the roof of a one-story building? Hoping to stick to the facts, Melani Melani Lamond, Associate Broker Urban Bye, Realtor 3529 Lancaster Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19104 cell phone 215-356-7266 office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 office fax 215-222-1101 ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[UC] Spring is definitely coming, and so are the baddies ... Home Invasion at 4311 Spruce St.
Hi all Was walking up Spruce St and saw a mess of TV cars and vans, along with police cars, a crime unit van and alot of men in suits being interviewed outside the apartment building at 4311 Spruce Street. Apparently, a male student was leaving the building and there were people (don't know how many, 3?) outside waiting. Whether for him in particular or for whoever was unlucky enough to step outside. They forced him back into the building and his apt, tied him up and the poor person stayed that way for about 11 hours. A newscrew person gave me this sketchy info, along with the fact that he'd heard 3 people were seen running from the building with stolen items. AFAIK, the student is ok ... whatever ok is after being assaulted/tied up/robbed means. This I'm sure will be on the news tonight, but I wanted to give you all a heads up. Be careful! If you think you saw anything please call the police. Wendy
[UC] Recommendations for other Broadband Providers
Just wondered if anyone has wandered past the two gallootish providers of DSL phone service in our area? Are there viable choices beyond the big TWO? It feels like Philadelphia may be a closed shop when it comes to broadband service. Let me know. Joe You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] stump grinder
Hi, When you walk by the 500 block of S. 46th Street, you'll notice a front garden encumbered with the mother of all stumps. We're in need of a stump grinder, either the machine itself or the machine plus the person who wields it. Can anyone recommend either a rental place or a person in the business. I've checked the tool library and a stump grinder isn't among its offerings. Many thanks, Martha Ledger You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Spring is definitely coming, and so are the baddies ... Home Invasio...
In a message dated 3/10/2008 2:27:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was walking up Spruce St and saw a mess of TV cars and vans, along with police cars, a crime unit van and alot of men in suits being interviewed outside the apartment building at 4311 Spruce Street. Apparently, a male student was leaving the building and there were people (don't know how many, 3?) outside waiting. Whether for him in particular or for whoever was unlucky enough to step outside. They forced him back into the building and his apt, tied him up and the poor person stayed that way for about 11 hours. A newscrew person gave me this sketchy info, along with the fact that he'd heard 3 people were seen running from the building with stolen items. AFAIK, the student is ok ... whatever ok is after being assaulted/tied up/robbed means. This I'm sure will be on the news tonight, but I wanted to give you all a heads up. Be careful! If you think you saw anything please call the police. Yikes. Scary. The miscreants are moving off-campus. What time of day (night) did the initial assault take place? If you walked by at 10:00 am, the 11-hour gap would put it at about 11:00 on Sunday night. And, not to sound sarcastic, the corner of 43rd Spruce is a gathering point for both Penn Security and the UCD Safety Ambassadors. I usually walk by there between 10:00 pm and 11:00 pm Sunday through Friday (with Pluto) and have ever seen anything suspicious (except the Penn Security and UCD Safety Ambassador gatherings). Remember, you read it first here, on the popu-list , Al Krigman **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
Re: [UC] Zoning reform - is this a local looney-toon
Anthony West wrote:? General bafflement among developers is relevant to the proposed hotel at 40th and pine if the proposed hotel at 40th Pine is being developed by a typical developer. If Tom Lussenhop is a typical developer, then deductive reasoning will teach you a lot about him. Study his nature as a developer, and you will learn important facts that will enable you to predict his motives and his behavior.? Inductive reasoning, by contrast -- trying to figure out a developer's motives by scrutinizing his latest announcements -- won't work well in this case. Million-dollar developers are counseled to approach the community they aim to change with a stolid agreeability, at least in public. Neither Ray nor I can reasonably ask Tom what he's really up to, not even face to face and certainly not on line. It is impossible for either Ray or I to ask Lussenhop what he thinks about zoning regs in general, as long as he has a million-dollar project on the cutting-board.? So the best way to learn what you don't know about zoning variances, is to learn the practical characteristics and motivations of people who must seek zoning variations. And you should talk to players who don 't have million-dollar projects on the line at that moment: they will be more candid and you will learn more.? ? ? ? in your opinion, which of these? ? classic looney tunes icons made? ? the most sense?? ? ? ___ porky pig? ? ? ___ elmer fudd? ? ? ___ foghorn leghorn? ? ? ..? UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN? LBeam, another example of your?compassion and wit - in keeping with the?timeless tag of a gentleman. In less exasperating times?once offered-up chicken?parts could be had?behind Little Nell to divine more clearly?the future of the dis-integrating Hood. Ciao, Craig
[UC] Excess WaWa's - (was Sluggish Verizon Services)
-Original Message- From: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com; UCneighbors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 1:23 pm Subject: [UC] Sluggish Verizon Services If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; Some time ago WaWa made a decision to sell off locations that put their employees at risk, regardless of productivity/revenue. The classic example of this was their store at Chester Ave and Church Lane, which was a 24 hour/day gold mine. Even with the implementation of overt big screen security system and wanted posters taped to the front doors, the armed robberies continued. I believe the last straw was when the stick-up team fled into Cobbs Creek Park and escaped along the Creek bed.?Most people don't fault Philadelphia, Darby and Yeadon police forces?for not risking their personnel at night under such circumstances? The store closed and reopened as TriStar, operated by a strange mix of what appeared to be Asians and Russians. They prominently featured a mastashioed SS like private police officer festooned with lace-up motor cycle boots and riding pants. The story goes a stick-up man walked up behind the guard put a gun to his head; put him on the floor; and disarmed him. The cashiers offered up their cash drawers. A quick succession of two more armed robberies meant no more overnight hours. 1) As a non-public owner of WaWa what level of risk are you prepared to accept or project upon your employees? 2) Do you give free coffee to the police so your business gets attention? Not allowed by PPD policy. 3) I think WaWa tries in Philly; pop in some zip codes http://www.wawa.com/storelocator/storeloc-list.asp Unfortunately,?other than Frank Rizzo?we never attracted any real men into local Democratic or Republican politics in the last 60 years. And, look how lovers of disorder, err freedom, have slimed Nutter for suggesting we try Stop Frisk. Any of you attend the Du Bois society's Baltimore Avenue?protest?last month? Fight back! Whenever you are offered violence, fight back! The aggressor does not fear the law, so he must be taught to fear you. ?Whatever the risk, and at whatever the cost, fight back! -(late) Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC? ? Ciao, Craig ? You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the? list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see? http://www.purple.com/list.html.?
Re: [UC] Zoning reform
Liz is absolutely right, in general. Speculating about the motives or connections, etc., of a developer are fruitless and largely beside the point. If its business is legally constructed and legally conducted, it has a right to be a developer. Foes of a project should focus their energy on the bricks rather than the mason. To me, any neighbor who moves to this neighborhood becomes a neighbor. There is no motive requirement for residency or for neighborliness. It should be possible to extend equal courtesy in public to every neighbor. -- Tony West Anyone can ask any questions they want. Answers may be refused, or may need to be absorbed with several grains of thought. Tony's suggestion, below, almost begs for an Ad Hominem attack on TL. I think we should stick to the reasons why the propsed project, in the proposed location is a poor fit What do we know about the developer? My suggestion is, don't reduce what we have to line the pockets of someone who rejected West Philly for Center City, when he first came to PENN, even though his job was to promote and develop UC. TL only moved into UC when a divorce and public education for his kids, at the Sadie Alexander School, helped UC appear more acceptable him. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Clark Park to follow Dutch lead??
Those Dutch are so puritanical. What's so bad about off-leash dogs, anyway? -- Tony West Frank wrote: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982504/posts Frank You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services
If Verizon allowed Cavalier to operate in this region, we would be able to have cheaper phone service and cheaper DSL service, but Verizon keeps them out and we suffer as a result. Sande Knight - Original Message - From: Suzanne B. Andersonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joe Clarkemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; University City Listmailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com ; UCneighborsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services My husband is our Family IT Guy. We recently discovered that in order to have a human being IT via Verizon, you have to pay an extra approximate $10 per month. So, we get an on line Q. This leads to a circle: if don't have service or crummy service and you want to find out why, the only information source is the media outlet that isn't working! I've asked our Family IT Guy about dumping the unused land line and getting wireless. Ix nay says FITG. We don't have cable and want to keep it that way. Upshot: we are stuck. It is a seller's market for DSL in our world. Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors Suzanne B. Anderson, MSW,LSW Somewhere in Texas a village is missing an Idiot. -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
[UC] How Do You Spell Price Fixing?
B-R-O-A-D-B-A-N-D A-C-C-E-S-S Joe C. SANDRA KNIGHT wrote: If Verizon allowed Cavalier to operate in this region, we would be able to have cheaper phone service and cheaper DSL service, but Verizon keeps them out and we suffer as a result. Sande Knight - Original Message - *From:* Suzanne B. Anderson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Joe Clarke mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; University City List mailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com ; UCneighbors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2008 2:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services My husband is our Family IT Guy. We recently discovered that in order to have a human being IT via Verizon, you have to pay an extra approximate $10 per month. So, we get an on line Q. This leads to a circle: if don't have service or crummy service and you want to find out why, the only information source is the media outlet that isn't working! I've asked our Family IT Guy about dumping the unused land line and getting wireless. Ix nay says FITG. We don't have cable and want to keep it that way. Upshot: we are stuck. It is a seller's market for DSL in our world. */Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors Suzanne B. Anderson, MSW,LSW *Somewhere in Texas a village is missing an Idiot.* Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services
Because I hate Comcast, I too use Verizon for landline and DSL and other services that are bundled for a reduced monthly cost. When I have to call online support I always press 0 twice as soon as I connect. This action sometimes works with certain company phone services and passes me through the loop and sometimes it doesn't. It is truly phone hell to deal with. If you are lucky, you can actually get someone from Canada who knows what the hell they are doing so that all the misguided information can be discarded. It may take a few transfers though. I have found that an average call may last up to four hours if there are service transfer and service reconnection problems involved as a result of a move. One guy from Canada actually spent over an hour fixing the screw-ups caused by the idiots from SE Asia and India I had spoken with before on the same call. I have found that some Indians I have spoken to regarding IT servicing are very knowledgeable from other companies, but not the ones who contract with Verizon. Frankly, the slowest DSL service I used before I upgraded seemed just as fast as the fast version of DSL I am currently using at a higher price. Anyway, we all know that the quoted speed is the highest it can be, not what it normally is. If I could use another vendor, I would in a New York minute. Sande Knight - Original Message - From: Joe Clarkemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City Listmailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com ; UCneighborsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighborshttp://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
[UC] Re: How Do You Spell Price Fixing?
And just what the hell am I supposed to extrapolate from these words? Please do me a favor and be more precise and less glib. Does that mean cable speed? Then I would have to use Comcast or a dixie cup. Or what don't I understand about your two word comment? I feel as though some old guy has just come up to me at my graduation party and whispered, plastic. sk - Original Message - From: Joe Clarkemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SANDRA KNIGHTmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UCneighborsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; University City Listmailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: How Do You Spell Price Fixing? B-R-O-A-D-B-A-N-D A-C-C-E-S-S Joe C. SANDRA KNIGHT wrote: If Verizon allowed Cavalier to operate in this region, we would be able to have cheaper phone service and cheaper DSL service, but Verizon keeps them out and we suffer as a result. Sande Knight - Original Message - *From:* Suzanne B. Anderson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Joe Clarke mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; University City List mailto:UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com ; UCneighbors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2008 2:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [Ucneighbors] Sluggish Verizon Services My husband is our Family IT Guy. We recently discovered that in order to have a human being IT via Verizon, you have to pay an extra approximate $10 per month. So, we get an on line Q. This leads to a circle: if don't have service or crummy service and you want to find out why, the only information source is the media outlet that isn't working! I've asked our Family IT Guy about dumping the unused land line and getting wireless. Ix nay says FITG. We don't have cable and want to keep it that way. Upshot: we are stuck. It is a seller's market for DSL in our world. */Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I wondered if anyone else on this list has had this experience with Verizon Online service: It appears when you call in about your account, you cannot get a real live agent and instead are corralled into an automated answering queue for 20-30 minutes. Can they be serious? I also discovered that by discontinuing my phone service with Verizon while maintaining the DSL, you change your status to a dry loop account which means you pay double the price, i.e. 70+ dollars a month for basic DSL! It seems like a company that is competing for our online business would do better than that; or are they simply trying to discourage certain zipcodes from their services altogether and targeting the more affluent FIOS covered service areas? Redlining is not that old of a concept. If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; the same is true for Citizens'- the people friendly- bank which has no real representation in West and Southwest Philadelphia. I can drive down to Cape May and pass by WaWa's at regular intervals along the route right into to the center of Cape May, itself, but it seems like the convenience store has leap-frogged over large areas of Philadelphia. I guess it's all just the ebb and flow of the free market, unless they are receiving special aid or consideration from the city or state while doing business in the city. Then it would be a problem. Joe Clarke ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighborshttp://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors Suzanne B. Anderson, MSW,LSW *Somewhere in Texas a village is missing an Idiot.* Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ucneighbors mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighborshttp://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
Re: [UC] Excess WaWa's - (was Sluggish Verizon Services)
Thanks Craig. I know that when they cleared out they took a lot of good stores, that didn't seem to me to be in high risk areas. There was one on 2nd Reed I believe that did a brisk business. There was also one on 8th right below Bainbridge. Both changed hands to some inferior provider of convenience items. I guess I'm saying I like the quality of WaWa over 711 and other chains of convenience stores. Their prices are fair and their dairy products are very reasonably priced; on top of it all the no-charge ATM's are a great convenience (my god this is almost socialism with vouchers). I can't blame WaWa if the city allows such a dangerous environment to do business in. (I leant my 2 cents to the rights vs responsibility rant during the primary. I agree: granting freedom can be used as an excuse for doing nothing, e.g. liberating the mentally ill from State care to community care. As was in Sunday's paper: the Rendell Administration promised to never, never, never (again) allow boarding homes to operate without licenses. And they always, always, ALWAYS will make sure the funding is there to do prompt inspections of providers, so that they can renew their licensure. Somehow I'm not reassured.) Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com; UCneighbors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 1:23 pm Subject: [UC] Sluggish Verizon Services If you notice there are no WaWa's - except on the perimeters - within most of West or Southwest Philadelphia; Some time ago WaWa made a decision to sell off locations that put their employees at risk, regardless of productivity/revenue. The classic example of this was their store at Chester Ave and Church Lane, which was a 24 hour/day gold mine. Even with the implementation of overt big screen security system and wanted posters taped to the front doors, the armed robberies continued. I believe the last straw was when the stick-up team fled into Cobbs Creek Park and escaped along the Creek bed. Most people don't fault Philadelphia, Darby and Yeadon police forces for not risking their personnel at night under such circumstances? The store closed and reopened as TriStar, operated by a strange mix of what appeared to be Asians and Russians. They prominently featured a mastashioed SS like private police officer festooned with lace-up motor cycle boots and riding pants. The story goes a stick-up man walked up behind the guard put a gun to his head; put him on the floor; and disarmed him. The cashiers offered up their cash drawers. A quick succession of two more armed robberies meant no more overnight hours. 1) As a non-public owner of WaWa what level of risk are you prepared to accept or project upon your employees? 2) Do you give free coffee to the police so your business gets attention? Not allowed by PPD policy. 3) I think WaWa tries in Philly; pop in some zip codes http://www.wawa.com/storelocator/storeloc-list.asp Unfortunately, other than Frank Rizzo we never attracted any real men into local Democratic or Republican politics in the last 60 years. And, look how lovers of disorder, err freedom, have slimed Nutter for suggesting we try Stop Frisk. Any of you attend the Du Bois society's Baltimore Avenue protest last month? Fight back! Whenever you are offered violence, fight back! The aggressor does not fear the law, so he must be taught to fear you. Whatever the risk, and at whatever the cost, fight back! -(late) Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC Ciao, Craig You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp0030002586 for your browser. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Sluggo Pummeling by providers...
The Citizens at the new Cira building has no parking unless you want to pony up the 9-14 dollars required to park in the pay lot. Very frustrating. Sorry about your troubles. I switched my landline to Vonage and when I tried to switch my DSL to something cheaper, Vonage told me that the only DSL providers that they work with are Verizon and Comcast! And they both charge approximately 60 bucks a munth for DSL a la carte. How do you spell price fixing. I'll make it a point to see the Corporation documentary. I've reported companies to the Attorney General for Consumer Protection. They would do something anyway. Joe C. Richard Conrad wrote: Verizon made my attempt to get Earthlink's three way package fail; then has cheated me umpteen times ever since. I am so furious. Meanwhile Earthlink, who, blaming Verizon, cancelled me (after I went two weeks with no phone or internet services - but constant promises from some dozen telecom workers in The Philippines that by no later than 10am the next day everything would be fixed)... now, Earthlink, claims I owe them a huge 'early cancellation fee' and have reported me to a collections agency which keeps threatening and harassing. The City says they get a lot of complaints like mine and said maybe I should try the Better Business Bureau. Arty-Fishiality is the modern technicality... Mindless - find less - menues... (Pre-fab spiders' traps). Your call is very important to us. We value the opportunity of being of disservice to you. Most companies it seems program for profit and not for service anymore. If anyone has not seen the documentary film: The Corporation I highly recommend it. Actually my brother helped make it... but despite all that, I still think it is fantastic. Also Free Speech TV (FSTV) and Link TV. I get them both on DISH satellite TV. I really adore these two resources and also BBC America and the several PBS stations. Citizens Bank - It's almost impossible to park at 34th St. or even 52nd St. 48th St.'s Citizens machine has been gone for many years. Very inconvenient. I go all the way out to 25th and Oregon. Richard Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4844 OSAGE AVE PHILA PA 19143-1713 215-748-5788 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Zoning reform - is this a local looney-toon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony West wrote:? General bafflement among developers is relevant to the proposed hotel at 40th and pine if the proposed hotel at 40th Pine is being developed by a typical developer. If Tom Lussenhop is a typical developer, then deductive reasoning will teach you a lot about him. Study his nature as a developer, and you will learn important facts that will enable you to predict his motives and his behavior.? Inductive reasoning, by contrast -- trying to figure out a developer's motives by scrutinizing his latest announcements -- won't work well in this case. Million-dollar developers are counseled to approach the community they aim to change with a stolid agreeability, at least in public. Neither Ray nor I can reasonably ask Tom what he's really up to, not even face to face and certainly not on line. It is impossible for either Ray or I to ask Lussenhop what he thinks about zoning regs in general, as long as he has a million-dollar project on the cutting-board.? So the best way to learn what you don't know about zoning variances, is to learn the practical characteristics and motivations of people who must seek zoning variations. And you should talk to players who don 't have million-dollar projects on the line at that moment: they will be more candid and you will learn more.? ? in your opinion, which of these? ? classic looney tunes icons made? ? the most sense?? ? ? ___ porky pig? ? ? ___ elmer fudd? ? ? ___ foghorn leghorn? ? ? ..? UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN? LBeam, another example of your?compassion and wit - in keeping with the?timeless tag of a gentleman. well, so long as someone insists on playing dr. pangloss in this discussion, there should be a little voltaire somewhere as well, methinks. ;-) .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: Accurate information [was: Re: � [UC] Zoning reform]
In the spirit of sticking to the facts... Please know that an average fireman could probably fit down a 4' wide alley, carrying a ladder and hose sufficient to help resolve a catastrophe in the one story addition. The difference between ZERO FEET and 4' is wider than the average rescue worker. Further modern equipment, including those mechanized ladders capable of aiding rescues, generally up to 6 stories, could be inserted through such an opening without trespass on much more than airspace of neighboring properties. Is your feeble attempt to contradict just one of my points an admission that the proposed hotel project is not a good fit at the 40th and Pine location? I offered my red flags as if they were an alcohol test for a pilot. If any of the negative criteria fit, than I wouldn't get on that flight, and I wouldn't recommend involvement by my neighbors. Thanks for providing the link www.CampusInnUC.com It took a long time to load, but provided loads of useful info, presented some new questions, and illustrated that even the architect could not create drawings, no matter how self serving, that help the proposed tower look attractive or appropriate. MLamond wrote: Hi, Liz, this access comment of yours has puzzled me, especially now that you say you've stood on the site. You've mentioned before that the proposed new inn would block fire access across the rear of the site. I don't think it's accurate to say that the new building would change the rear access to the property. There is already pretty close to a zero lot line in the rear. You can see this in slide 4 slide 7 of the Atkin Olshin Schade presentation, on line at http://www.campusinnuc.com/ The 1960 drawing in slide 7 shows that that cinder block rear building is 4' from the rear property line, and the bird's-eye view in slide 4 shows that the cinder block building is at least one story tall. Have you ever seen a fire engine less than 4' wide, or one that can jump onto the roof of a one-story building? Hoping to stick to the facts, Melani _ Career Problems? Go to Vocational School and increase your pay. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3oLey3v4fW16IoPkzXrVsChFXtUNKT721ZIJDjcWrd0BWx4d/
