Re: [UC] Dropouts and adult literacy

2008-06-27 Thread Glenn
Re: [UC] Dropouts and adult literacy"It's as real a look at inner city schools 
under No Child Left Behind as I have ever come across."


The paper printed with "No child left behind" should be recycled and turned 
into useful toilet paper!

It was another decade long set-up for privatization of public education and 
busting unions. This little "experiment" was never intended to help any school 
districts.  First, it ignored and obscured the fundamental funding problem and 
the long term issues those cause.  Secondly, it rallied anger against the 
schools and teachers who like the kids are victims of poor policy.  It was 
ridiculous since the beginning.

Like other systems dealing with people, the professionals, teachers, should 
have the support for professional development like other professionals have 
during their earlly development.  No child Left Behind encouraged none of what 
is needed while taking the opposite punitive approach.

Consider the average length of service for a public school teacher.  Consider 
the number of teachers that leave after 1 or 2 years of service.  We have a lot 
of idealistic young adults popping out of college each year but Philadelphia 
constantly needs "special certification" as so many flee the profession.

Obviously the system is broken.  (No support, no back-up professional services. 
poor morale as you use your own money for basic supplies, denial of overcrowded 
classrooms, denial of behavioral issues which result, angry parents while 
society treats you like crap.)

Gee whiz, why do young public school teachers always show up so quickly waiting 
the tables at upscale restaurants?  No child left behind orders a speed test 
before the tires are put on the race car!

The American people were sold this idea that decade after decade, teachers are 
doing shots and internet poker in gold covered classrooms while Johnny was 
ignored.  Standardized national tests for everyone would produce miracles and 
catch all the lazy teachers with a simple explanation for student outcomes.

Exactly what was expected happened.  Some districts sacrificed education to 
teach to the test.  Vital extra curricular programs, special ed, and gifted 
students were sacrificed- Massaging data was needed. 

Corporate America got the new data they wanted. Privatization and union busting 
will be offered to the American people with renewed intensity. 'Cause this 
brilliant and punitive, no child left behind, didn't improve anything.

I hope people watched the show you recommended and take the time and make the 
effort to consider and understand the issues and policy direction for public 
education.  I think the education of each generation (not only Johnny) is one 
of the most important issues for citizens in a democratic society.  I think 
citizens in such democracies agree with me. 

I look forward to catching, Hard Times at Douglas High School.

Best,
Glenn 

 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wilma de Soto 
  To: Glenn ; UnivCity listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] Dropouts and adult literacy


  Glenn,

  If you REALLY want to know want my job is like, don't miss "Hard Times at 
Douglass High School" on HBO tonight at 9:00PM.  It's as real a look at inner 
city schools under No Child Left Behind as I have ever come across.  Hopefully, 
it would make people a bit more sympathetic as to what teaching is like under 
this ridiculous law.


  On 6/26/08 9:08 AM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.philly.com/inquirer/education/18554429.html

 
This is an interesting article about drop-outs and an adult literacy 
program.  It gives some good information and statistics to consider.  At the 
end, consider how the federal funding has been slashed.

 
I believe in a different model to address Philadelphia's serious adult  
literacy problem.

Small community-based programs are needed to help overcome barriers for 
literacy program completion.  Literacy and employment help are the best core 
services to be delivered in neighborhoods, but outcomes would improve 
tremendously if a thorough assessment of a participants real life problems was 
also completed at baseline.  Then matching additional intervention (through 
high quality referrals) is done with continued follow-up.  

The baseline assessments, regular case managed follow-up, and core and 
beginning employment and literacy services need to occur in the neighborhoods.  
Both trust and the message of planning, testing and alternative actions must be 
developed by the individual before the education goals can be reached. 
(Curriculum needs to be different from high school too.  I like to begin each 
class with the newspaper, critical thinking, and discussion.  It warms up the 
brain for fractions and prepositions.)

Of course, the network of supporting social services is in shambles in poor 
urban cities, so that it is a never ending responsibility for the case manager

[UC] Poetry before newspapers

2008-06-27 Thread Glenn
I was hanging out with the Muse without reading newspapers first.  My thoughts 
seem different before I look at what is happening in the district and world.   
Hope you enjoy!


My Ship of Delight

Ah magic, my lovely, my ship of delight
Gliding sensuality; 'low a half moon light
Naked or cloaked?  Half hidden in shadows
For one kiss, this beast, would surely face gallows!
My longing, my love, my ship of delight.

Safe harbor awaits you, this beautiful night
Gentle waves, cool breeze, doves in flight
Lower sails, drop anchors, and replenish your store
Feast freely, drink merrily, then feast some more!
My salvation, so sacred, my ship of delight.

Heaven's on earth, this magic, so right...!


Mad sunrise intrudes on my bliss, so bright
Melancholy and longing accompany the sight
My beloved set sail on the endless expanse
But this moon, pure love, I was graced with life's chance!
Sail safely, my beloved, my ship of delight
Goodbye, my dearest, my ship in the night. 

[UC] trap needed

2008-06-27 Thread Linda Lee

Does anyone have a squirrel or larger humane trap I can borrow ?

thanks,
linda

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Re: [UC] trap needed

2008-06-27 Thread Krfapt


In a message dated 6/27/2008 9:34:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Does  anyone have a squirrel or larger humane trap I can borrow  ?

thanks,
linda
 
I borrowed one from Kyle Cassiday a few years back, but he's not on this  
listserv any more and I don't have his personal email address.
 
For all I know, he's not on the Sweet Barking Cheese list either. In fact,  
that one may now be as moribund as this has become.
 
Al Krigman



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[UC] Tools cooperative

2008-06-27 Thread ana kostich

Could someone please send me the info on the tools renatal cooperative that 
opened in the neighborhood?
Thank you,

Ana

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[UC] tools rental

2008-06-27 Thread ana kostich

Sorry. It would be tools RENTAL coop. 


Ana

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Re: [UC] P. City Planning Commission info

2008-06-27 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Glenn wrote:

Dear neighbors,

The Campus Inn is NOT scheduled at the upcoming June 17^th city planning 
commission meeting.  (It was tabled at the May meeting)


The staff member handling the hotel is on leave, so I was unable to get 
much of the information I was seeking. (Note: the staff was friendly.)  
I will return and report to you after the 24th.




any developments?

the penn trustees met last week, but there was no specific 
mention of the hotel in the dp (http://tinyurl.com/5r6jx3)


-- the dp had earlier reported that proposed site (owned by 
penn) would be leased to developers (lussenhop and campus 
apartments) if plans were approved by penn's board of 
trustees and philly zoning officials...



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Re: [UC] Tools cooperative

2008-06-27 Thread Lewis Mellman

http://www.westphillytools.org/
4620 Woodland Ave. • Philadelphia, PA 19143 • 215-833-3190 •  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Tool Library is now open:
Tuesdays 6:30-8:30pm
Thursdays 6:30-8:30pm
Saturday 9am-2pm

Check it out.
-Lew





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Could someone please send me the info on the tools renatal  
cooperative that opened in the neighborhood?

Thank you,

Ana

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Re: [UC] Publicizing Philly Schools

2008-06-27 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Anthony West wrote:
In general, the idea behind markets is they throw a lot of mud at the 
wall; the good stuff sticks, the bad slides off.




in general, the idea behind markets is that not everyone is 
equal, and in fact not everyone is supposed to be equal. the 
idea of markets is to cast citizens into the role of unequal 
competitors; the aim of markets is to preserve that inequality.


that's the mud being thrown at public education.



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[UC] universities + real estate + developers

2008-06-27 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

from today's chronicle of higher education:



Land-Rich Universities Weigh New Options for Real-Estate
Development

By PAUL FAIN

Real-estate-rich universities are taking advantage of new
ways to develop their holdings through corporate
partnerships, says a report released this week by Moody's
Investors Service, a credit-rating agency. Those
partnerships pose a wide range of payoffs and risks, the
agency says.

Universities have long been strategic real-estate
investors. Many urban institutions own off-campus
buildings while rural and suburban colleges often hold
tracts of vacant land. Those "banked" real-estate
holdings are viewed second only to endowments as
strategic assets, the report says.

Many institutions are looking for new streams of revenue
and forming public-private partnerships to develop their
land and buildings. Under those deals, colleges typically
retain the long-term ownership of their real estate while
private investors build or operate a facility on the
property, generating revenue for both the college and
investor.

Most college leaders are reluctant to give up the
ultimate ownership of their land, writes the report's
author, Roger Goodman, a vice president and senior
analyst for Moody's. But the partnerships allow
institutions to make money off the real estate without
developing it themselves.

"Newer options allow those universities to monetize their
real-estate assets or create a new revenue stream to
support other mission-focused activities, without
sacrificing complete control or ownership in the long
term," Mr. Goodman said in a written statement.

The report, which is available by e-mailing
[EMAIL PROTECTED], is titled "Public-Private
Partnerships in U.S. Higher Education: Real-Estate Rich
Organizations May Benefit, but Credit Impact Always
Assessed on Case-by-Case Basis." The development options
listed in the report are included below, with
descriptions of potential benefits and risks.

* Privatized student housing. These projects are
generally 100-percent debt-financed. Their construction
can be cheaper and faster than if managed by
universities. However, institutions lose control,
including over the "pricing and programming of
residential experience."

* Commercial development. Private development of
mixed-use facilities near colleges can enhance
neighborhood appeal and campus life while also generating
significant financial gain through upfront payments. The
projects can also fail and result in vacant lots or
"unattractive tenants and services."

* Retirement communities. These projects can bring in
money through profit-sharing with a developer. They can
also help build alumni connections. The downsides include
potential financial losses and distractions for
university leaders as they help manage these typically
complex developments.

* Outright property sale. This option improves liquidity
and increases endowment holdings. It is also the loss of
a long-term asset that could be used for future campus
growth.



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calling for the murder of 18th District police officers - was Re: [UC] trap needed

2008-06-27 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 06/27/08 10:32:49 Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt writes:
Sweet Barking Cheese list ... may now be as moribund as this has become.
 _

That's one of the byproducts of community driven or institutionalized 
speech-control. And, most of us are loathe to be labeled enemies of the 
University e uhhh State. But, it was fun butting heads with Kyle and that 
ninja pacifist Mennonite.

And, we don't want on-list to advertise nut cases, like the human intellectual 
puke below. Now maybe, he has some constitutional right to practice his art 
form and we have a right to publicly ostracize him for his morals and values. 
Mayor Nutter, his buds, and at least some faculty at UPenn do want to get all 
those non-violent offenders out of prison and mainstream them into a more 
compassionate supportive society. Oh, Mr Bill, please not in UC.

Shaking my head over how boring this list has become and how exciting art as 
life is. Oh yeah, and the hood is still safe, Tony. As long as you are not the 
subject of aberrant violent behavior.

Ciao,

Craig

Posted on Fri, Jun. 27, 2008
Man arrested for anti-cop YouTube clip
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080627_Man_arrested_for_anti-cop_YouTube_clip.html
By DAVID GAMBACORTA
Philadelphia Daily News
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 215-854-5994
It took just a few weeks for Andre Moore to go from YouTube to the slammer. 
Members of the state attorney general's Gun Violence Task Force announced 
Moore's abrupt career change yesterday morning by smashing a battering ram 
through the door of his West Philadelphia apartment.
The 44-year-old was arrested for calling for the murder of 18th District police 
officers in a video titled "Dissin' Philly Cops" that he posted on YouTube on 
June 6, law-enforcement officials said.
Moore, who's now been suspended from his job as a security guard at Albert 
Einstein Medical Center, was less than subtle in his performance.
While waving a gun through the air, Moore said, "I rejoice whenever they shoot 
a cop in Philadelphia because I hate them," according to a court affidavit 
containing a transcript of the video.
Later on, he offered instructions on to how to murder cops: "All we need is a 
Colt .275 to do it. Look, it's easy. You got the chamber, let it go off . . . 
anywhere in the head or heart . . . continue killing the 18th District police."
The officials said that Moore's 12-year-old son, Andre Jr., filmed the volatile 
video, and another underage relative held a gun in a second video that Moore 
posted on YouTube using the screen name "lildre502."
The videos are no longer available on YouTube.
Moore's wife, Tamara, expressed outrage over the incident during a phone 
interview last night.
"I knew nothing about any of this," she said. "Me, my son and our family are 
very much humiliated by the act Andre did.
"Whatever happens to him, happens. My job is being jeopardized because of this."
Investigators said that District Attorney Lynne Abraham and state Attorney 
General Tom Corbett became aware of the videos about two weeks ago.
They charged Moore with aggravated assault, corruption of minors, terroristic 
threats and harassment.
"Obviously, the charges could be challenged in court, but that's out of our 
hands," said police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore. "You have rights, but that 
doesn't mean you can say something like this."
According to court records, Moore was sentenced to five years' probation in 
1994 after pleading guilty to charges of simple assault, recklessly endangering 
another person, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct stemming from an arrest 
the previous year.
An Einstein spokesman said last night that he had "no knowledge" of Moore's 
criminal history. The hospital has suspended Moore, pending further 
investigation, he said.
Police officials were further irked by the fact that Moore worked at the same 
hospital where Officer Chuck Cassidy died last November after he was shot 
interrupting a robbery.
"It's a shame he was able to work in a place where one of our officers was 
taken," said FOP president John McNesby. "He's scum of the earth, and there's 
not much more you can say about it than that."


Re: [UC] P. City Planning Commission info

2008-06-27 Thread Glenn

"any developments?"

No.  The next PCPC hearing is July 15th.  The agenda is not posted.

I've not been back to see the staff person handling this case.  I've not 
seen a word about the hotel anywhere.  I haven't noticed any work at the 
site lately.


Nutter has indicated in his vision that such developments will need to go 
before this commission.  That back door maneuvers by developers won't bypass 
this commission, in future, as they can bypass other city oversight.  Penn 
may be taking some time to put their people in better positions.


The hotel developers were asked for a traffic study.  I asked to view the 
submissions in the public record.  I'll go in as soon as the agenda is 
posted.  I'll let everyone know, but anyone can write to the commissioners 
now to voice your opposition to the hotel


You can send it to each of them by mail or hand deliver to the office at 
1515 Arch St.


Glenn



- Original Message - 
From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] P. City Planning Commission info



Glenn wrote:

Dear neighbors,

The Campus Inn is NOT scheduled at the upcoming June 17^th city planning 
commission meeting.  (It was tabled at the May meeting)


The staff member handling the hotel is on leave, so I was unable to get 
much of the information I was seeking. (Note: the staff was friendly.)  I 
will return and report to you after the 24th.




any developments?

the penn trustees met last week, but there was no specific mention of the 
hotel in the dp (http://tinyurl.com/5r6jx3)


-- the dp had earlier reported that proposed site (owned by penn) would be 
leased to developers (lussenhop and campus apartments) if plans were 
approved by penn's board of trustees and philly zoning officials...



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Re: calling for the murder of 18th District police officers - was Re: [UC] trap needed

2008-06-27 Thread Glenn
The list is far from moribund, Craig and Al.  I checked and it has 322 
subscribers.  The fact that the "popu-list" is the place which comes alive when 
discussions about the hotel or secret public forums are before us, shows its 
health.

Also the fact that the volume of posts goes down at other times also indicates 
a civil healthy forum to me.(The incivility has completely disappeared since 
the tricks of the cheese gang have been confronted by lots of us.  It will take 
time before others will trust making more thoughtful risky posts.  Barking 
cheese only started a year ago and the last of the cheesehead anointed only 
recently slowed the bullying here.  After years of domination, it will take 
time)  


"But, it was fun butting heads with Kyle and that ninja pacifist Mennonite."

The mennonite said that all of the head banging was the reason that people 
subscribed.  The headbanging  accounted for a big portion of the high volume of 
posts.  But people aren't lurkers on a community forum, anymore than reading 
letters to the editor without writing them, is lurking.  There was a high 
volume of posts a year ago, yet discussions weren't happening.  I think a lot 
of people didn't like all the headbanging and the prime headbangers even used 
that point to justify a censored list.  (The noise from a high volume was the 
other reason.)

The list seems healthy and appropriate now as a free wheeling community forum.  
There are announcements, opinions, and ad hoc discussions when the community is 
threatened.  All done with civility-

It had been dominated by a mean-spirited clique and had a lot of pro UCD 
advertising a year ago.  The idle chit-chat that I saw on Barking Cheese 
(before they made their archives secret), wasn't harmful noise for a public 
forum.  But most people have told me that Barking Cheese is very boring unless 
you're part of the clique around the founding members.  Some feel the 
intimidation to have a nice chatty non-controversial controlled list stifles 
them.

It doesn't bother me that Barking Cheese is boring.  The various issues it 
raises about university sponsored censorship bother me a lot!  This list seems 
healthy.

Best,
A leftist
PS:  I still don't know what to think about this video.  One thing for sure, 
it's far out!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craigsolve 
  To: univcity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: calling for the murder of 18th District police officers - was Re: 
[UC] trap needed


  In a message dated 06/27/08 10:32:49 Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt writes:
Sweet Barking Cheese list ... may now be as moribund as this has become.
   _

  That's one of the byproducts of community driven or institutionalized 
speech-control. And, most of us are loathe to be labeled enemies of the 
University e uhhh State. But, it was fun butting heads with Kyle and that 
ninja pacifist Mennonite.

  And, we don't want on-list to advertise nut cases, like the human 
intellectual puke below. Now maybe, he has some constitutional right to 
practice his art form and we have a right to publicly ostracize him for his 
morals and values. Mayor Nutter, his buds, and at least some faculty at UPenn 
do want to get all those non-violent offenders out of prison and mainstream 
them into a more compassionate supportive society. Oh, Mr Bill, please not in 
UC.

  Shaking my head over how boring this list has become and how exciting art as 
life is. Oh yeah, and the hood is still safe, Tony. As long as you are not the 
subject of aberrant violent behavior.

  Ciao,

  Craig

  Posted on Fri, Jun. 27, 2008
  Man arrested for anti-cop YouTube clip
  
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080627_Man_arrested_for_anti-cop_YouTube_clip.html

  By DAVID GAMBACORTA
  Philadelphia Daily News

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 215-854-5994

  It took just a few weeks for Andre Moore to go from YouTube to the slammer. 
  Members of the state attorney general's Gun Violence Task Force announced 
Moore's abrupt career change yesterday morning by smashing a battering ram 
through the door of his West Philadelphia apartment.

  The 44-year-old was arrested for calling for the murder of 18th District 
police officers in a video titled "Dissin' Philly Cops" that he posted on 
YouTube on June 6, law-enforcement officials said.

  Moore, who's now been suspended from his job as a security guard at Albert 
Einstein Medical Center, was less than subtle in his performance.

  While waving a gun through the air, Moore said, "I rejoice whenever they 
shoot a cop in Philadelphia because I hate them," according to a court 
affidavit containing a transcript of the video.

  Later on, he offered instructions on to how to murder cops: "All we need is a 
Colt .275 to do it. Look, it's easy. You got the chamber, let it go off . . . 
anywhere in the head or heart . . . continue killing the 18th District police."

  The offi

[UC] Re: calling for the murder of 18th District police officers - was Re: [UC] trap needed

2008-06-27 Thread Wilma de Soto
Well, I told Al and Craig offline about the recent loss of my mother and
what my sister are going through now.

Don¹t blame ME.  I tried to stimulate people about the HBO Documentary this
week entitled, ³Hard Times at Douglass High.²

This is a contract year for us and I think everyone should see this
documentary.  

Hopefully, private partnerships and the ŒState¹ will pitch in and roll up
their sleeves and correct ALL the foibles of teachers in inner-city public
schools.

Pray, do not forget the thousands of dollars in pocket expenses for clothes,
shoes, meds, home visits on one¹s own time etc. which could affect the
bottom line.

Well,

Happy Summer.

PS. I¹m  still working and summer school does not start until July 1st.
I refuse to teach summer school!


On 6/27/08 4:59 PM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The list is far from moribund, Craig and Al.  I checked and it has 322
> subscribers.  The fact that the "popu-list" is the place which comes alive
> when discussions about the hotel or secret public forums are before us, shows
> its health.
>  
> Also the fact that the volume of posts goes down at other times also indicates
> a civil healthy forum to me.(The incivility has completely disappeared since
> the tricks of the cheese gang have been confronted by lots of us.  It will
> take time before others will trust making more thoughtful risky posts.
> Barking cheese only started a year ago and the last of the cheesehead anointed
> only recently slowed the bullying here.  After years of domination, it will
> take time)  
>  
>  
> "But, it was fun butting heads with Kyle and that ninja pacifist Mennonite."
>  
> The mennonite said that all of the head banging was the reason that people
> subscribed.  The headbanging  accounted for a big portion of the high volume
> of posts.  But people aren't lurkers on a community forum, anymore than
> reading letters to the editor without writing them, is lurking.  There was a
> high volume of posts a year ago, yet discussions weren't happening.  I think a
> lot of people didn't like all the headbanging and the prime headbangers even
> used that point to justify a censored list.  (The noise from a high volume was
> the other reason.)
>  
> The list seems healthy and appropriate now as a free wheeling community forum.
> There are announcements, opinions, and ad hoc discussions when the community
> is threatened.  All done with civility-
>  
> It had been dominated by a mean-spirited clique and had a lot of pro UCD
> advertising a year ago.  The idle chit-chat that I saw on Barking Cheese
> (before they made their archives secret), wasn't harmful noise for a public
> forum.  But most people have told me that Barking Cheese is very boring unless
> you're part of the clique around the founding members.  Some feel the
> intimidation to have a nice chatty non-controversial controlled list stifles
> them.
>  
> It doesn't bother me that Barking Cheese is boring.  The various issues it
> raises about university sponsored censorship bother me a lot!  This list seems
> healthy.
>  
> Best,
> A leftist
> PS:  I still don't know what to think about this video.  One thing for sure,
> it's far out!
>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>>  
>> From:  Craigsolve 
>>  
>> To: univcity@list.purple.com
>>  
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:00 PM
>>  
>> Subject: calling for the murder of 18th  District police officers - was Re:
>> [UC] trap needed
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> In a message dated 06/27/08 10:32:49 Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt  writes:
>>  
>>>  
>>> Sweet Barking Cheese list ... may now be as moribund as this has  become.
>>  
>>  _
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> That's one of the byproducts of community driven  or institutionalized
>> speech-control. And, most of us are loathe to be  labeled enemies of the
>> University e uhhh State. But, it was fun butting  heads with Kyle and
>> that ninja pacifist Mennonite.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> And, we don't want on-list to advertise nut cases, like the human
>> intellectual puke below. Now maybe, he has some constitutional right  to
>> practice his art form and we have a right to publicly ostracize  him for his
>> morals and values. Mayor Nutter, his buds, and at least  some faculty at
>> UPenn do want to get all those non-violent offenders out of  prison and
>> mainstream them into a more compassionate supportive society. Oh,  Mr Bill,
>> please not in UC.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Shaking my head over how boring this list has become and how exciting art  as
>> life is. Oh yeah, and the hood is still safe, Tony. As long as you are not
>> the subject of aberrant violent behavior.
>>  
>>  
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>> Ciao,
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[UC] markets in schools and lettuce (Was: Re: [UC] Publicizing Philly Schools)

2008-06-27 Thread Anthony West
Perhaps you're confusing markets with "corporate capitalism" or some 
other ideology. Markets are a more basic social creature; most societies 
have long had them. Markets begin by noting people are inherently 
unequal in complementary ways (farmers have lettuce but no cash; city 
folks have cash but no lettuce). By going to the market, you tend to get 
the same deal everyone else does. But markets can have both egalitarian 
and inegalitarian effects.


Don't mistake "markets" as a synonym for "private profit". All sorts of 
entities are in a marketplace. There is a gigantic market for colleges 
and universities, very few of which are for profit. Governments compete 
with each other too. Philadelphia competes with Lower Merion, and the 
two of them together compete with Metropolitan Atlanta.


Complaining about the market is like complaining about the weather (aka 
"the atmosphere"). Everybody does it, but nobody wants to try living 
entirely without it.


Applying markets to mass education is complicated, but it too has a long 
history. Still, schooling has long been seen as a public good. In that 
sense, it must be egalitarian: each citizen deserves an equal stake from 
society as he or she sets off as a young adult.


Yet the job of schools is also to sort and grade: measuring inequality. 
How can they stop doing so? At the very least, there is passing and 
failing. Since schools grade pupils, presumably for their own good, then 
it's hard to understand why schools should be harmed by a taste of their 
own medicine.


-- Tony


in general, the idea behind markets is that not everyone is equal, and 
in fact not everyone is supposed to be equal. the idea of markets is 
to cast citizens into the role of unequal competitors; the aim of 
markets is to preserve that inequality.


that's the mud being thrown at public education.



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