Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
Bill Sanderson wrote: You're right, I guess. They had an incident which involved personnel policies--did an employee do the right (or the wrong) thing. No organization I've ever run into is going to handle such a thing in public--would you expect there to be broad neighborhood publicity if this were you, and your employer? yes, penn does handle this kind of thing -- look at the amy gutmann holloween incident. it broke out on someone's blog (not the newspapers), spread throughout the media, and penn very quickly issued a statement and posted it on their website. it was the right thing to do, the responsible thing to do. Presumably, at some point, John Fenton's employment status will change--he'll go back to work, or otherwise. Whether anyone will announce that to the world, I don't know, but I don't expect to see it emblazoned on any headlines. see, that's just it: all we've heard thus far (publicly) is headlines. meanwhile some in the neighborhood have heard wendell deliver a statement at a meeting, and the daily news has shifted the 'story' (removing/distancing fenton and magnifying blackwell) while not publishing ucd's full official statement... up next: more headlines?... .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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In a message dated 6/1/2007 8:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Waiting to hear what you find out. I hope you have a lot of patience. Have you heard back from the IRS yet? I haven't filed a complaint yet. I'm giving UCD another week to inform us of either the progress or the conclusions of their internal investigation -- with an indication of how the investigation was conducted. Were such a thing forthcoming, there may be no purpose served in filing a complaint. Of course, I indicated the above before -- but you're apparently as quick to assume I was not being honest in saying so. Prejudging me the same way a lot of people on this list prejudged John Fenton (guilty but a nice guy so let it slide). Neither says much for the people who say either. Al Krigman Left of Ivan Grozny ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ---BeginMessage--- I think Melani expressed her reasoning-those who want to know should ask UCD directly themselves. Waiting to hear what you find out. Have you heard back from the IRS yet? ---End Message---
RE: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
You're right, I guess. They had an incident which involved personnel policies--did an employee do the right (or the wrong) thing. No organization I've ever run into is going to handle such a thing in public--would you expect there to be broad neighborhood publicity if this were you, and your employer? Presumably, at some point, John Fenton's employment status will change--he'll go back to work, or otherwise. Whether anyone will announce that to the world, I don't know, but I don't expect to see it emblazoned on any headlines. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:09 AM To: University City List Subject: Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic Bill Sanderson wrote: I think Melani expressed her reasoning-those who want to know should ask UCD directly themselves. some of us seem not to appreciate that ucd is, even at this moment, communicating something very loud and clear. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeamR] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
Sorry-I guess I missed the detail about the IRS amongst the rhetoric. I have plenty of patience. I don't view John Fenton as guilty of anything. John Desmond has offered a scenario, but I think really getting into the details is purposeless, since none of us is familiar enough to have them be useful, anyway. My own take on this is: Jannie Blackwell's office called and asked for help setting up a fair in the park. John Fenton went, and took his community service folks with him. Since this is election time, the fair had some unexpected angles to it, and all concerned will do it differently next time around. I really don't see anything that smells here. No conspiracy, just human and organizational relationships that need fine tuning at times. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:48 AM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Fwd: [UC] Delay and old news tactic In a message dated 6/1/2007 8:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Waiting to hear what you find out. I hope you have a lot of patience. Have you heard back from the IRS yet? I haven't filed a complaint yet. I'm giving UCD another week to inform us of either the progress or the conclusions of their internal investigation -- with an indication of how the investigation was conducted. Were such a thing forthcoming, there may be no purpose served in filing a complaint. Of course, I indicated the above before -- but you're apparently as quick to assume I was not being honest in saying so. Prejudging me the same way a lot of people on this list prejudged John Fenton (guilty but a nice guy so let it slide). Neither says much for the people who say either. Al Krigman Left of Ivan Grozny _ See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 .
[UC] Delay and old news tactic
Some of us don't believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring.. Remember, our town clown, Bender, used the image of UCD's findings announced in 2012. Others and I recognize that instead of investigation, there is damage control occurring at Penn. The general tactic being employed is what I call, The Delay and Old News Tactic. When the news that UCD is good and nearly perfect comes sometime soon, the assertion will be made that they have discovered how to be 100% perfect forever more so that they may remain closed and secretive. The public announcement will make the point that some fuzzy incident occurred long in the past and only curmudgeons and Trustafarians want to look to the past and not the future. (They will probably have a new survey and will probably make a call for your wish list) I have heard this so many times here in the district often through the partners like Tony West's gang, the Friends of Clark Park, that it sounds like a broken record to me. The meaning of this, look to the future not the past, is that nothing will be done to the policies, procedures, and secrecy that led to a specific, publicly exposed, incident. The incident will have been swept under the rug and the ad hominem machine will be loaded for any one that says, hey UCD, you just swept this under the rug. The use of the same treachery will be preserved for future use. I hope you all remember this prediction when the announcement comes out. It's not because I'm really smart like Mr. West that I'm able to make this prediction. It is because the treachery and secrecy are endemic in this UCD and the UCD culture. Over time, these tactics can be observed to be systematic and are employed with almost no thought by the actors. There is such arrogance that the free pass given and the support of the cheerleaders using the ad hominem machine and fallacious argument strategies will carry the day. Of course using such tactics and strategies on a community will show the UCD wish to benefit from intentional divisiveness as some of us have accused UCD of doing in most of its initiatives Look how Melani, Siano, and West are used like pawns with no concern that they will make complete idiots of themselves in front of their neighbors. Even if you don't like us outsiders, whores, drug addicts, criminals, etc. and don't care about our rights as citizens; do you like your up-scale leaders to constantly be called on to make jackasses out of themselves for UCD benefit? UCD uses this in all of the initiatives I've seen, most notably for me, the takeover of UCD Park at 43rd and Baltimore. This is at the cornerstone of the hand picked closed steering committees we've seen with every initiative. The UCD argument is the following once an initiative leaks out to the public. It's too late now to include stakeholders because the community has been chosen. We need to look to the future and not the past. There will never be a mistake in the future but all future discussions will be secret. Trust us, our good good friends, if you have any questions or comments please, please, send them to us, our trash shredder is always plugged in for your questions. Everyone knows if they question this tactic, they will hear, you're evil, hot-headed and stuck in the past like Moyer. Shut up now or we're going to make you sorry that you ever ever questioned The Friends of Clark Park or UCD We are all supposed to remember that we are little people and UCD is getting almost unlimited power to rule the neighborhood we called home. It's partners are getting the fantasy of power because they will be able to bully their neighbors until the UCD power is 100% Watch for the Delay and Old News tactic coming soon to a newsmercial near you, Glenn
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In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:11:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of us don’t believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring Maybe Melani, to whom UCD apparently still responds, can get a progress report. If so, it'll show that the above is wrong. If not, or if she doesn't even try, well... Al Krigman Left of the deposed cover-up king, R Milhouse Nixon ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of us don’t believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring Maybe Melani, to whom UCD apparently still responds, can get a progress report. If so, it'll show that the above is wrong. If not, or if she doesn't even try, well... pinochle, anyone? .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. ftr, no follow-up in this week's uc review, nor in this week's dp __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:28:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:11:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of us don’t believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring Maybe Melani, to whom UCD apparently still responds, can get a progress report. If so, it'll show that the above is wrong. If not, or if she doesn't even try, well... I'm not a spokesperson for the UCD. I write about the UCD from my perspective, same as others on this list write from their perspectives. Because I approach the folks who work at the UCD respectfully and politely, even when I disagree with them, they are willing to talk with me. I'd suggest that anyone else who wishes to communicate with them use that same approach - both when speaking with them directly, and also when speaking ABOUT them in a semi-public forum, like on this list. I've found that it's much easier to get a response from people when you treat them like fellow human beings and don't pre-judge them. That said, have you contacted them and asked for an update? I can't think of a reason why I should do so on your behalf, if you haven't tried. Perhaps you feel embarrassed to phone them yourself, after the names you've called the people there on this list, which you know that they have access to. Let me know what attempts you've made without success, before I consider approaching them for you. To everyone on the list: have any of you attempted to contact the UCD for an update? With or without success? Please advise. Ditto about the Councilwoman's office. Has anyone asked her if she has anything to say to us? Please advise. Thanks, Melani Lamond Melani Lamond, Associate Broker Urban Bye, Realtor 3529 Lancaster Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19104 cell phone 215-356-7266 office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 office fax 215-222-1101 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
In a message dated 6/1/2007 1:15:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MLamond writes: That said, have you contacted them and asked for an update? I can't think of a reason why I should do so on your behalf, if you haven't tried. Perhaps you feel embarrassed to phone them yourself, after the names you've called the people there on this list, which you know that they have access to. As I said, if she won't do it, there's a reason. And as for all that hoo-hah about approaching them politely, may I remind Melani that I approached Carolyn Blackwell politely about the issue of whether she did or did not say Melani was on the bylaws committee has had been reported she said at a CPN Meeting. In fact, I made the polite request twice and never got a response. Come to find out that Melani had told Carolyn not to answer my request. I didn't find that out by the grapvine. Melani bragged about telling Carolyn not to get back to me. More than this, Melani, you have presented yourself on this listserv (and perhaps elsewhere) as a conduit of information between UCD and the community, as having been named to the steering committee for the NID for this very purpose. And it's true that the alleged violations of federal law have to to with UCD and not the NID, but the relevance is that UCD is proposing to run the NID so the current organization's modus operandi is extremely relevant. And they should be eager to convince us that they operate in a transparent manner. So, Melani, stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. If you don't go to them with this question and bring back an answer, it looks very bad for you personally and you can be sure those of us who have serious misgivings about the NID proposal will use the stonewalling of this alleged violation as much or more than the alleged violation itself as evidence of incompetence and untrustworthiness if and when the time comes. Yours sincerely, Al Krigman ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Al, you are seriously the two* most pompous, self-important people I have ever met. What right do you have to demand that Melani, a private citizen, do anything? By what divine mandate do you hold her accountable for satisfying your curiousity? Your normal standard of self-righteous, entitled ranting is bad enough, but you've really outdone yourself here. Why won't you do it, Al? If you won't, there's a reason. Is it perhaps that all of the concerned parties know you're a crank, a whackjob and a jackass, and they refuse to talk to you? Is it because you're too shy to actually put yourself on the front lines of your own witch hunt, and instead content yourself with lurking behind the screen, in the shadows, firing off vituperative missive after missive and patting yourself on the back for your bravery? What are you hiding, Al? - Mike V. * Because no one person can be that pompous or self-important. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:37 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic In a message dated 6/1/2007 1:15:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MLamond writes: That said, have you contacted them and asked for an update? I can't think of a reason why I should do so on your behalf, if you haven't tried. Perhaps you feel embarrassed to phone them yourself, after the names you've called the people there on this list, which you know that they have access to. As I said, if she won't do it, there's a reason. And as for all that hoo-hah about approaching them politely, may I remind Melani that I approached Carolyn Blackwell politely about the issue of whether she did or did not say Melani was on the bylaws committee has had been reported she said at a CPN Meeting. In fact, I made the polite request twice and never got a response. Come to find out that Melani had told Carolyn not to answer my request. I didn't find that out by the grapvine. Melani bragged about telling Carolyn not to get back to me. More than this, Melani, you have presented yourself on this listserv (and perhaps elsewhere) as a conduit of information between UCD and the community, as having been named to the steering committee for the NID for this very purpose. And it's true that the alleged violations of federal law have to to with UCD and not the NID, but the relevance is that UCD is proposing to run the NID so the current organization's modus operandi is extremely relevant. And they should be eager to convince us that they operate in a transparent manner. So, Melani, stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. If you don't go to them with this question and bring back an answer, it looks very bad for you personally and you can be sure those of us who have serious misgivings about the NID proposal will use the stonewalling of this alleged violation as much or more than the alleged violation itself as evidence of incompetence and untrustworthiness if and when the time comes. Yours sincerely, Al Krigman _ See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 .
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In a message dated 6/1/07 1:38:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it's true that the alleged violations of federal law have to to with UCD and not the NID... On this point I agree with you, Al. And I agree that I am a member of the NID Steering Committee. The Steering Committee is not involved in the investigation about Malcolm X Park.And I'm not a spokesperson for the UCD. You aren't following my advice about how to get people to respond to you. As I wrote earlier, people are more likely to respond if you approach them politely, show respect, and don't prejudge them. You have failed on all three counts here, plus you have no right to order me to do something or threaten me if I don't do it. In addition, you didn't answer my question about whether or not you had asked the UCD directly for information. So I won't be responding to any more of your emails on this topic, and the fact that I won't respond doesn't prove any of the things you want it to prove, and doesn't make any of the points you want to make. It only proves that your approach drives folks away. Melani Lamond Melani Lamond, Associate Broker Urban Bye, Realtor 3529 Lancaster Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19104 cell phone 215-356-7266 office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 office fax 215-222-1101 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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In a message dated 6/1/2007 2:52:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Al, you are seriously the two* most pompous, self-important people I have ever met You don't seem to like me very much. Well, you'd probably like my dog, Lightning. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
RE: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
I admit, I have a hard time disliking dogs. - Mike V. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:11 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic In a message dated 6/1/2007 2:52:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Al, you are seriously the two* most pompous, self-important people I have ever met You don't seem to like me very much. Well, you'd probably like my dog, Lightning. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, _ See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 .
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On 6/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** So I won't be responding to any more of your emails on this topic, and the fact that I won't respond doesn't prove any of the things you want it to prove, and doesn't make any of the points you want to make. So THERE, Kriggers, you old whackjob. Assail *that* logic if you dare. Also, no more cucumber sandwiches and buttered scones in the gazebo for YOU, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings. -- Ross Bender http://rossbender.org
Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic
Today, The Philadelphia Daily News had a mention about Jannie Blackwell and the UCD scandal at Black Oak Park (now called Malcolm X Park), in their ³Clout² section. Nothing really new to report, but it won¹t be long now since the hounds have grappled on to it. I am sorry for her AND John Fenton. _Wilma On 6/1/07 9:09 AM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us don¹t believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring.. Remember, our town clown, Bender, used the image of UCD¹s findings announced in 2012. Others and I recognize that instead of investigation, there is damage control occurring at Penn. The general tactic being employed is what I call, The Delay and Old News Tactic. When the news that UCD is good and nearly perfect comes sometime soon, the assertion will be made that they have discovered how to be 100% perfect forever more so that they may remain closed and secretive. The public announcement will make the point that some fuzzy incident occurred long in the past and only curmudgeons and Trustafarians want to look to the past and not the future. (They will probably have a new survey and will probably make a call for your wish list) I have heard this so many times here in the district often through the partners like Tony West¹s gang, the Friends of Clark Park, that it sounds like a broken record to me. The meaning of this, look to the future not the past, is that nothing will be done to the policies, procedures, and secrecy that led to a specific, publicly exposed, incident. The incident will have been swept under the rug and the ad hominem machine will be loaded for any one that says, hey UCD, you just swept this under the rug. The use of the same treachery will be preserved for future use. I hope you all remember this prediction when the announcement comes out. It¹s not because I¹m really smart like Mr. West that I¹m able to make this prediction. It is because the treachery and secrecy are endemic in this UCD and the UCD culture. Over time, these tactics can be observed to be systematic and are employed with almost no thought by the actors. There is such arrogance that the free pass given and the support of the cheerleaders using the ad hominem machine and fallacious argument strategies will carry the day. Of course using such tactics and strategies on a community will show the UCD wish to benefit from intentional divisiveness as some of us have accused UCD of doing in most of its initiatives Look how Melani, Siano, and West are used like pawns with no concern that they will make complete idiots of themselves in front of their neighbors. Even if you don't like us outsiders, whores, drug addicts, criminals, etc. and don't care about our rights as citizens; do you like your up-scale leaders to constantly be called on to make jackasses out of themselves for UCD benefit? UCD uses this in all of the initiatives I¹ve seen, most notably for me, the takeover of UCD Park at 43rd and Baltimore. This is at the cornerstone of the hand picked closed steering committees we¹ve seen with every initiative. The UCD argument is the following once an initiative leaks out to the public. It¹s too late now to include stakeholders because the community has been chosen. We need to look to the future and not the past. There will never be a mistake in the future but all future discussions will be secret. Trust us, our good good friends, if you have any questions or comments please, please, send them to us, our trash shredder is always plugged in for your questions. Everyone knows if they question this tactic, they will hear, you¹re evil, hot-headed and stuck in the past like Moyer. Shut up now or we¹re going to make you sorry that you ever ever questioned The Friends of Clark Park or UCD We are all supposed to remember that we are little people and UCD is getting almost unlimited power to rule the neighborhood we called home. It's partners are getting the fantasy of power because they will be able to bully their neighbors until the UCD power is 100% Watch for the Delay and Old News tactic coming soon to a newsmercial near you, Glenn
RE: [UC] Delay and old news tactic - List Diversity
I don't want you to think that I'm casting aspersions on Al's intellect, Craig. If I've given that impression, mea culpa. - Mike V. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:26 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic - List Diversity In a message dated 6/1/2007 2:52:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're a crank, a whackjob and a jackass No culture can live if it attempts to be exclusive. -- Mohandas Gandhi Mike, you are an extraordinary example of this list's diversity of thought and opinion, however, I personally believe you underestimate SpecialK's character and intellect. Ciao, Craig _ See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 .
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Wilma de Soto wrote: Today, The Philadelphia Daily News had a mention about Jannie Blackwell and the UCD scandal at Black Oak Park (now called Malcolm X Park), in their ³Clout² section. The text: U City: Knox probe Our next bit of unfinished business concerns our May 16 item about community service, Philly style. Luke Walker, a Penn grad student performing community service for the University City District, found himself and other volunteers sent to set up for a Tom Knox campaign event at Malcolm X Park in West Philly on the Friday before election. It was bizarre, Walker told us. All of a sudden I found myself working for the Tom Knox campaign and wondering, 'How did I get here?' Well, he got there courtesy of Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell, who'd endorsed Knox for mayor. Blackwell didn't return our call, but she later told Channel 6 that the rally was a community fair. A community fair that featured Knox for Mayor signs and a speech by Knox, but we won't quibble. John Fenton, who directed U City's community-service program, has been placed on paid administrative leave, according to Lori Brennan, director of communications for the University City District. Brennan said the district's board was investigating the incident. http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20070601_Clout___Primaries__Unfinished_gift_that_keeps_on_giving.html Regards, John Ellingsworth You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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Wilma de Soto wrote: Today, The Philadelphia Daily News had a mention about Jannie Blackwell and the UCD scandal at Black Oak Park (now called Malcolm X Park), in their “Clout” section. Nothing really new to report, but it won’t be long now since the hounds have grappled on to it. I am sorry for her AND John Fenton. fenton should be back on the job any day now, right? (hasn't it been 2 weeks?) anyway, here's the daily news article: http://tinyurl.com/2dodqk and here's what's new: the may 16 article said: It was bizarre, he [Walker] said. All of a sudden I found myself working for the Tom Knox campaign and wondering, 'How did I get here?' The director of UCD's cleanup effort is John Fenton, who Walker heard was close to City Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell. Blackwell supported Knox. and now the june 1 article says: It was bizarre, Walker told us. All of a sudden I found myself working for the Tom Knox campaign and wondering, 'How did I get here?' Well, he got there courtesy of Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell, who'd endorsed Knox for mayor. hahaha .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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The Daily News column is right here: http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20070601_Clout___Primaries__Unfinished_gift_that_keeps_on_giving.html And oddly enough, it mentions Willie Singletary, who can be seen along with his father at www.malcolmxpark.org soliciting campaign donations and performing a Blessing of the Bikes. http://malcolmxpark.org/?p=3 Malcolm X Park is where it all happens. Andrew Quoting Wilma de Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Today, The Philadelphia Daily News had a mention about Jannie Blackwell and the UCD scandal at Black Oak Park (now called Malcolm X Park), in their ³Clout² section. Nothing really new to report, but it won¹t be long now since the hounds have grappled on to it. I am sorry for her AND John Fenton. _Wilma On 6/1/07 9:09 AM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us don¹t believe an open-ended internal investigation which UCD claims, is actually occurring.. Remember, our town clown, Bender, used the image of UCD¹s findings announced in 2012. Others and I recognize that instead of investigation, there is damage control occurring at Penn. The general tactic being employed is what I call, The Delay and Old News Tactic. When the news that UCD is good and nearly perfect comes sometime soon, the assertion will be made that they have discovered how to be 100% perfect forever more so that they may remain closed and secretive. The public announcement will make the point that some fuzzy incident occurred long in the past and only curmudgeons and Trustafarians want to look to the past and not the future. (They will probably have a new survey and will probably make a call for your wish list) I have heard this so many times here in the district often through the partners like Tony West¹s gang, the Friends of Clark Park, that it sounds like a broken record to me. The meaning of this, look to the future not the past, is that nothing will be done to the policies, procedures, and secrecy that led to a specific, publicly exposed, incident. The incident will have been swept under the rug and the ad hominem machine will be loaded for any one that says, hey UCD, you just swept this under the rug. The use of the same treachery will be preserved for future use. I hope you all remember this prediction when the announcement comes out. It¹s not because I¹m really smart like Mr. West that I¹m able to make this prediction. It is because the treachery and secrecy are endemic in this UCD and the UCD culture. Over time, these tactics can be observed to be systematic and are employed with almost no thought by the actors. There is such arrogance that the free pass given and the support of the cheerleaders using the ad hominem machine and fallacious argument strategies will carry the day. Of course using such tactics and strategies on a community will show the UCD wish to benefit from intentional divisiveness as some of us have accused UCD of doing in most of its initiatives Look how Melani, Siano, and West are used like pawns with no concern that they will make complete idiots of themselves in front of their neighbors. Even if you don't like us outsiders, whores, drug addicts, criminals, etc. and don't care about our rights as citizens; do you like your up-scale leaders to constantly be called on to make jackasses out of themselves for UCD benefit? UCD uses this in all of the initiatives I¹ve seen, most notably for me, the takeover of UCD Park at 43rd and Baltimore. This is at the cornerstone of the hand picked closed steering committees we¹ve seen with every initiative. The UCD argument is the following once an initiative leaks out to the public. It¹s too late now to include stakeholders because the community has been chosen. We need to look to the future and not the past. There will never be a mistake in the future but all future discussions will be secret. Trust us, our good good friends, if you have any questions or comments please, please, send them to us, our trash shredder is always plugged in for your questions. Everyone knows if they question this tactic, they will hear, you¹re evil, hot-headed and stuck in the past like Moyer. Shut up now or we¹re going to make you sorry that you ever ever questioned The Friends of Clark Park or UCD We are all supposed to remember that we are little people and UCD is getting almost unlimited power to rule the neighborhood we called home. It's partners are getting the fantasy of power because they will be able to bully their neighbors until the UCD power is 100% Watch for the Delay and Old News tactic coming soon to a newsmercial near you, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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On 6/1/07, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was bizarre, Walker told us. All of a sudden I found myself working for the Tom Knox campaign and wondering, 'How did I get here?' And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack And you may find yourself in another part of the world And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife And you may ask yourself-well...how did I get here? -- Ross Bender http://rossbender.org/mqrtoc.html
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Take it to Culture, dude! I must say I too was heartened to notice how knowledge of the Classics still elevates the youthful Ivied mind. -- Tony West - Original Message - From: Ross Bender To: John Ellingsworth Cc: UnivCity listserv Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Delay and old news tactic On 6/1/07, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was bizarre, Walker told us. All of a sudden I found myself working for the Tom Knox campaign and wondering, 'How did I get here?' And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack And you may find yourself in another part of the world And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife And you may ask yourself-well...how did I get here? -- Ross Bender http://rossbender.org/mqrtoc.html
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I'll add my view, which supports Melani's tactical recommendations without addressing her allegiance. If you want information about any person or any agency, no matter how much you distrust them, you first have to go through the process of trying to talk to them face to face before you can complain about their lack of responsiveness. Rules of the game. As of 2007, no real-world entity is required by any standard of etiquette to post this or that on its website, or otherwise cater to critics who wish to pester it on line. Some day these rules may change, but they have not yet. Common courtesy and common sense both suggest you attempt to talk live with another human being inside an organization you wish to understand. Oftentimes reporters wind up calling organizations they don't expect a straight answer from. Still, these are steps that need to be taken. I would never publish the work of a writer who refused to take this first step, no matter how persuasive I found his work otherwise. -- Tony West Because I approach the folks who work at the UCD respectfully and politely, even when I disagree with them, they are willing to talk with me. I'd suggest that anyone else who wishes to communicate with them use that same approach - both when speaking with them directly, and also when speaking ABOUT them in a semi-public forum, like on this list. I've found that it's much easier to get a response from people when you treat them like fellow human beings and don't pre-judge them. That said, have you contacted them and asked for an update? To everyone on the list: have any of you attempted to contact the UCD for an update? With or without success? Please advise. Ditto about the Councilwoman's office. Has anyone asked her if she has anything to say to us? Please advise. Melani Lamond
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I think Melani expressed her reasoning-those who want to know should ask UCD directly themselves. Waiting to hear what you find out. Have you heard back from the IRS yet?
