Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-29 Thread kidstypike


jfo wrote: 
> In addition to the same file properties, I also use the 0775 code, so it
> may not be related to your issue. I'm not sure if it would make a
> difference, but have you tried mapping the usb drive in Windows file
> explorer?

Mapping the USB drive may not help, I have the USB SSD drive with my
music files mapped to S: I cannot delete the backups from windows file
explorer or WinSCP, file code used is 0666.

No problem deleting backups when written/stored on my WD MyCloud.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-28 Thread jfo


P Nelson wrote: 
> My low-tech solution to delete the extra SD Card backup files was to
> shut down the Pi, remove the USB hard drive, and connect it to my
> Windows 10 machine.  No problem deleting the files.
> 
> My guess, which is probably not quite right, is the "Create File Mode"
> code 0775 that is mentioned in the PiCore Documentation to set up a USB
> drive and set-up Samba.  I have seen other people use different codes. 
> I am not sure what the differences are.  
> 
> thanks for the help.
> 
> Paul

In addition to the same file properties, I also use the 0775 code, so it
may not be related to your issue. I'm not sure if it would make a
difference, but have you tried mapping the usb drive in Windows file
explorer?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-28 Thread P Nelson


My low-tech solution to delete the extra SD Card backup files was to
shut down the Pi, remove the USB hard drive, and connect it to my
Windows 10 machine.  No problem deleting the files.

My guess, which is probably not quite right, is the "Create File Mode"
code 0775 that is mentioned in the PiCore Documentation to set up a USB
drive and set-up Samba.  I have seen other people use different codes. 
I am not sure what the differences are.  

thanks for the help.

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-25 Thread jfo


I have the same image file properties and can delete these files in file
explorer. I use a mapped network drive for LMSfiles.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-25 Thread P Nelson


paul- wrote: 
> How are you accessing?  Is it a shared folder, or are you using WinSCP?

I am accessing the USB Drive connected to Pi3B+ running pCP v 7.0.1 and
running Samba from a Windows 10 machines  (I tried the desktop and
laptop and got the same message.)

I set up the mounting of the USB hard drive (this is where all my music
is located) to the Pi using the picore documentation instructions.  The
folder for the SD images was created by using "Save" button under Image
Location in the SD Image tab.  

I am not using WinSCP.  

I am not sure how to answer the question about a shared folder.   In
Windows 10 file explorer I did a right click and looked at the security
properties for the "Images" folder.  It has the same permission settings
as my "Music" folder; which I can copy and delete files from my Windows
10 machines.  Perhaps the file settings if the image files might yield
useful information.  Here are the screen prints:
343933439434396

I hope this helps.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-25 Thread paul-


How are you accessing?  Is it a shared folder, or are you using WinSCP?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-25 Thread jfo


P Nelson wrote: 
> Thank you for the follow-up.
> 
> I have a related issue.  I am trying to delete the extra files located
> on the USB drive at "/mnt/LMSfiles/images/"
> I am using my Windows 10 computer to access the USB drive and I am
> getting the message:
> "You require permission form Unix User\root to make changes to this
> file."  
> 
> I don't recall seeing something within pCP to delete files or grant
> access.
> 
> How can I delete these extra image files?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Paul

I'm able to delete these files in Windows 10 but I can't shed light on
where you might look for a permissions setting. I don't recall any
settings about this when I set up the pi.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-24 Thread Grumpy Bob


P Nelson wrote: 
> Thank you for the follow-up.
> 
> I have a related issue.  I am trying to delete the extra files located
> on the USB drive at "/mnt/LMSfiles/images/"
> I am using my Windows 10 computer to access the USB drive and I am
> getting the message:
> "You require permission form Unix User\root to make changes to this
> file."  
> 
> I don't recall seeing something within pCP to delete files or grant
> access.
> 
> How can I delete these extra image files?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Paul

I've done this by logging in to the pCP via a terminal window and using
the linux command line after navigating to the directory with the image
file. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-24 Thread P Nelson


Thank you for the follow-up.

I have a related issue.  I am trying to delete the extra files located
on the USB drive at "/mnt/LMSfiles/images/"
I am using my Windows 10 computer to access the USB drive and I am
getting the message:
"You require permission form Unix User\root to make changes to this
file."  

I don't recall seeing something within pCP to delete files or grant
access.

How can I delete these extra image files?

Thank you

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-24 Thread paul-


My ipad doesn't show a loss of connection.  Safari must caching the url
and is not abiding by the javascript, that changes the url, removing the
backup command from the url.  So safari is reposting the full command to
start the backup.  I dont think there is anything I can do about it.

You don't need to wait for the backup to finish if you don't want to,
just leave the page.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-24 Thread P Nelson


I was able to recreate the issue of multiple SD card image files being
created with only *one *click of the Create SD Card image.  I removed
pigz.tcz and then accessed pCP via my iPad.  

1. I clicked "create" button and I see "Writing -2028mb image" and I see
a series of dots that appear which I assume shows progress is
occurring.
2. I wait and the iPad screen turns off due to inactivity after a
minute.
3. After a while, I press the home button to wake up the iPad.
4. The Safari page instead of showing pCP and the status display, I see
the message "Safari cannot open the page because the network connection
was lost."  
I am not sure why it would say that as I have good Wifi signal as the
access point is in the same room.  I never get this message when the
main pCP page, LMS pages are displayed and the iPad comes back from
standby.
5. I tap refresh; the symbol with the circle with a clockwise arrow in
Safari.
6. The pCP page reappears showing the status with "Writing -2028mb
image"
However, I notice the dots have started over.  In other words, I do not
that additional progress has occurred since the screen went into
standby.
7. This time I touch the screen every ~30 seconds so it will not go into
standby.
I see the dots appear across the screen. The process takes 15 minutes. 
When it is complete I see pCP displaying information of 2 partitions,
the size of each partition, LBA start, LBA end.  The disk size says
30528 mb.
8.  Using my Windows 10 computer I go to the directory where the images
are stored and I see 2 new files with the same size.   Yet I clicked on
the "create" button only once.  The time stamp on each file is 3 minutes
apart. 

The only thing I makes sense to me, is that when I taped on the refresh
symbol it resulted in another backup process.  Perhaps in parallel?  

I hope this helps if the creators are concerned about this.  The process
does appear to work, it is just not what I expected.  (However, I have
not validated the images by putting them on a second card and then using
it to boot-up the 3B+.)

The other observation is pigz.tcz really speeds up the process; took
less than 5 minutes.

If you need more information, please let me know.  

Thanks to all the people that develop, maintain, and help people with
pCP!! 

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread paul-


My ipad does not go blank, is shows the screen data as it's being
written (An I have done backups that take 30 minutes).  The web page
never finishes loading before the script finishes, so the page load
would have had to been manually stopped.  The backup script will still
run in the background until finished.   

Normal page loading very early on removes the data from the URL so that
refreshes do not repost the URL.

There are no pages in the pCP interface that you have to manually
refresh to see status.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread Paul Webster


The issue is that he had 7 files produced as the result of 2 backup
attempts.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread paul-


Its a gzipped disk image.  One part.  The file size change is somewhat
expected.   gzip is single threaded process, whereas pigz is
multithreaded.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread Paul Webster


I just had a look at the command line it uses - and it should not result
in multi-file archive.
So must have been something else going on.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread P Nelson


Paul Webster wrote: 
> I have not tried it but perhaps it is a multi-file archive.
> Each file making a portion of the entire archive.

Six of the files were the same file size (1,951,244,422 bytes). If it
was a multi-file archive, then would they be the same size? 
The seventh, and after I installed pigz.tcz, was slightly larger
(1,954,088,955 bytes).  That is why I assumed the screen refresh started
another back-up process.  

If there is a way to confirm the multi-file archive, please let me
know.

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread Paul Webster


P Nelson wrote: 
> 
> How did I end up with seven files?

I have not tried it but perhaps it is a multi-file archive.
Each file making a portion of the entire archive.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-04-23 Thread P Nelson


I did the minor update from PCP 7.0.0 to 7.0.1 to use the backup SD Card
feature. (Thanks to GaryM on another thread.)  The first time I saved
the file it took (what I thought, more about that later) a half hour to
write the file.  I saw the note about pigz.tcz, so I installed that
extension, and wanted to see if it was any faster.  It took less than 5
minutes to write the file with pigz.tcz.

I looked at the files that were created, and I noticed I had seven  *.gz
files.  Six were all the same file size. One was slightly larger;
indicating it was after I installed pigz.tcz.

How did I end up with seven files?  I only clicked the save button
twice.  I did notice that during the first attempt (before installing
pigz.tcz) the pCP page on my iPad would go blank, so I did a refresh and
the status would re-appear and the little dots would appear again
showing the status.  This happened several times, which explains the six
duplicate files.  The screen refresh started another save SD Card
process.

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread paul-


Please start a new thread.  This has nothing to do with the image
creation feature.

When you start the new thread.  We need to see the output of "df"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread Howard Passman


I resized my disk to 14,580MB but when I try to load LMS it says there's
not enough space. I know that can't be right.

Here are my disk stats...

Device   Boot StartCHSEndCHSStartLBA EndLBA   
Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/mmcblk0p1128,0,1 127,3,16  8192 139263
131072 64.0M  c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p21023,3,16   1023,3,16   139264   3000  
29860737 14.2G 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sda: 466 GB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
60801 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread Howard Passman


Thanks again Greg. I thought that was gonna be scary, but it wasn't bad
:-)

Howard


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> hi Howard Passman,
> 
> A little information here:
> 
> 'Can't see the boot partition'
> (https://docs.picoreplayer.org/faq/cant_see_boot_partition/)
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > $ m1
  > $ c1
  > $ cat README

> > 
> 
> Should do the trick.
> 
> Are your pCP's old ones that have been insitu-upgraded numerous times?
> ie 5 to 6 to 7?
> 
> What are the actual error messages? Are they referring to ROOT or BOOT
> partition?
> 
> regards
> Greg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread paul-


There is a css update in this.  We used to do automatic timestamp
checking on the css sheets, but that caused a big performance hit on the
single core boards.   The css sheet gets tagged with the piCorePlayer
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread mr-b


Tx for adding the LMS warning.
It'd also be useful to say what navigating away from the page will do.

I only saw a progress % counter on FF with no bar. I had to do a shit
Reload (override cache) to get the bar to display.

The image size makes a lot more sense now, though an old storage pedant
says all that has to happen now is to change mb to be MB or GB and then
we're !Done". Or should that be "100%" now? ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread Howard Passman


Thanks MIV!

Man in a van wrote: 
> Think this is a typo
> 
> should be:: m1::



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread carsten_h


paul- wrote: 
> Just run the "Patch Update" to download the new pages

After Imdid the backup, I took the image and flashed it with
Raspberry Pi Imager onto a faster and sadly bigger (before
8GB, now 16GB) USB stick and it worked out of the box. I only had to set
the waitusb time to 4 instead of 12 before because the new stick is
faster.
So everything fine now!

Thank you for the great work!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-14 Thread Man in a van


Howard Passman wrote: 
> O.K. I figured out everything but what you meant by the $ ml, etc,
> commands. I did find the readme file. DOH!

Think this is a typo

should be:: m1::



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread kidstypike

paul- wrote: 
> This is not Windows.  It won’t say 100% until it’s 100% done.

The first time I tried it I just saw a numeric % in the left corner,
which I thought was a bit feeble. Just tried another backup, this time I
see the progress bar, happy as Larry. (Who is Larry)?

Cheers.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread carsten_h


paul- wrote: 
> Also fixed was when the boot disk is a USB stick.

Yes, this is working now without any problem. I mounted a second USB
stick and made a backup!
The progressbar is working fine with Safari on iPadOS!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread paul-

kidstypike wrote: 
> Just installed the new patch, made a backup no problem, assume when 100%
> is reached it's finished, it used to say "Done"?

This is not Windows.  It won’t say 100% until it’s 100% done.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Howard Passman


O.K. I figured out everything but what you meant by the $ ml, etc,
commands. I did find the readme file. DOH!



Howard Passman wrote: 
> O.K. did the mount command and it seemed to work, but I still don't see
> "BOOT" listed in my folders.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean by $ ml, etc. I don;t know what to do
> with that.
> 
> None of the players have been insitu updated other than from 7.0.0b2 to
> 7.0.0 recently
> 
> When I try to download an extension I get this warning: WARNING: Check
> there is sufficient free space before downloading extensions. 
> 
> Sorry I don't understand the $ ml thing. I'm sure I'll be embarrassed
> when I understand.
> 
> Howard
> 
> .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Howard Passman


O.K. did the mount command and it seemed to work, but I still don't see
"BOOT" listed in my folders.

I don't understand what you mean by $ ml, etc. I don;t know what to do
with that.

None of the players have been insitu updated other than from 7.0.0b2 to
7.0.0 recently

When I try to download an extension I get this warning: WARNING: Check
there is sufficient free space before downloading extensions. 

Sorry I don't understand the $ ml thing. I'm sure I'll be embarrassed
when I understand.

Howard

.
Greg Erskine wrote: 
> hi Howard Passman,
> 
> A little information here:
> 
> 'Can't see the boot partition'
> (https://docs.picoreplayer.org/faq/cant_see_boot_partition/)
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > $ m1
  > $ c1
  > $ cat README

> > 
> 
> Should do the trick.
> 
> Are your pCP's old ones that have been insitu-upgraded numerous times?
> ie 5 to 6 to 7?
> 
> What are the actual error messages? Are they referring to ROOT or BOOT
> partition?
> 
> regards
> Greg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Greg Erskine


hi Howard Passman,

A little information here:

'Can't see the boot partition'
(https://docs.picoreplayer.org/faq/cant_see_boot_partition/)


Code:

$ m1
  $ c1
  $ cat README



Should do the trick.

Are your pCP's old ones that have been insitu-upgraded numerous times?
ie 5 to 6 to 7?

What are the actual error messages? Are they referring to ROOT or BOOT
partition?

regards
Greg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Howard Passman


My cache...

3335733357


Howard Passman wrote: 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Not sure what might be filling the partition up. I assumed it was just
> normal stuff. One of the devices that has the issue is just a player. No
> LMS on it. I'll check the other two.
> 
> Could I get a more specific hint where the README is please.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Howard Passman


Hi Greg,

Not sure what might be filling the partition up. I assumed it was just
normal stuff. One of the devices that has the issue is just a player. No
LMS on it. I'll check the other two.

Could I get a more specific hint where the README is please.

Thanks,

Howard


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> There is a piCore README on the boot partition (PCP_BOOT) that tells you
> how to do a manual resize of the root partition (PCP_ROOT).
> 
> What's filling up the partition? A huge LMS cache?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Greg Erskine


Howard Passman wrote: 
> I wanted to load an extension, but apparently there isn't enough room on
> the partition, which is 2000MB. If I resize it to full, then the backup
> takes forever. It's a 32GB card.
> 
> Is there a way to increase the partition to something like 4GB?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard

There is a piCore README on the boot partition (PCP_BOOT) that tells you
how to do a manual resize of the root partition (PCP_ROOT).

What's filling up the partition? A huge LMS cache?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread kidstypike


Howard Passman wrote: 
> I wanted to load an extension, but apparently there isn't enough room on
> the partition, which is 2000MB. If I resize it to full, then the backup
> takes forever. It's a 32GB card.
> 
> Is there a way to increase the partition to something like 4GB?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard

That would suit me too, more choice when resizing the file system. 3GB?
4GB?

Just installed the new patch, made a backup no problem, assume when 100%
is reached it's finished, it used to say "Done"?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread Howard Passman


I wanted to load an extension, but apparently there isn't enough room on
the partition, which is 2000MB. If I resize it to full, then the backup
takes forever. It's a 32GB card.

Is there a way to increase the partition to something like 4GB?

Thanks,

Howard



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread paul-


Math errors have been fixed. Numbers were too big for shell math.  It
was only cosmetic errors, images were still created properly.  Note the
size printed on the image name is the size needed for restore.  The
gzipped image will be less than that size.  Also fixed was when the boot
disk is a USB stick.

I added a progress bar.  This is a first our interface, so curious to
see if there are any oddities with browsers.  I tested on Chrome/FF and
IOS browsers.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread paul-


Some have a third data partition.I.e. music.   They typically sync
that separately.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-13 Thread mr-b


paul- wrote: 
> Printing a dot every 5 seconds is what it does.  The only way to know
> for sure if it is successful, is to wait for the "DONE".  If you leave
> the page, it will finish, but you don't know for sure when it finishes.
> 
I completely missed the increasing dots on the web page!

Could it log a msg somewhere? I guess that would also help when checking
cron job status.
I tried an image creation to a share with little space and I spotted an
"Out of space writing" error in dmesg.

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> I *think* you might need "sudo" for start and stop.
Indeed one does.

tc@PCP-XLR-LMS:~$  /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start
Need to run as root.
tc@PCP-XLR-LMS:~$ sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start
[21-02-13 10:37:35.4361] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v8.1.1, 1610364019, Thu Jan 14 06:27:45 CET 2021) perl 5.032000 -
arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int

Slimserver Running pid:23433 23384


Also re:

- pcp ic [all|pcp]   : Image Create: All Patition Backup or Partial pCP
Partitions Only

I found that both these options produce the same image file. Also when
would you only need the partial (boot partitions) backup for?

tc@pCP-SPDIF:~$ pcp ic pcp
[ INFO ] Creating backup of only pCP Boot Partitions
[ INFO ] Image - pCP-SPDIF-pCP7.0.1-268mb-20210213102547.img.gz
[ INFO ] Location - /mnt/backup/images/
[ INFO ] This may take a while...
[ INFO ] Things can be sped up if you install extension pigz.tcz from
the extension page.
[ INFO ] Writing 268mb image DONE

tc@pCP-SPDIF:~$ pcp ic all
[ INFO ] Creating all partition disk backup
[ INFO ] Image - pCP-SPDIF-pCP7.0.1-268mb-20210213102847.img.gz
[ INFO ] Location - /mnt/backup/images/
[ INFO ] This may take a while...
[ INFO ] Things can be sped up if you install extension pigz.tcz from
the extension page.
[ INFO ] Writing 268mb image ...DONE

-a13/02/2021 10:27  225513967
pCP-SPDIF-pCP7.0.1-268mb-20210213102547.img.gz
-a13/02/2021 10:30  225513967
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-12 Thread Greg Erskine


I *think* you might need "sudo" for start and stop.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-12 Thread paul-


mr-b wrote: 
> Tx. It'd be good to flag that the process is run in the background as
> the web page spins, so it's not obvious.
> Also about LMS ideally needing to be shutdown, unless it can do that
> too.
> 

Printing a dot every 5 seconds is what it does.  The only way to know
for sure if it is successful, is to wait for the "DONE".  If you leave
the page, it will finish, but you don't know for sure when it finishes.

mr-b wrote: 
> 
> And is there any reason why pigz.tcz isn't included by default? Why
> would one *not* want parallel gzip?
> -rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff53248 Feb 11 11:40
> /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional/pigz.tcz
> 

If you have small images, its not needed.. and pCP is all about
being minimal.  So I give you the choice.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-12 Thread mr-b


In case it helps on the image size calc, my partition info from Resize
FS


Code:


  FilesystemSize  Used Available Use% Mounted on
  /dev/mmcblk0p2   29.2G  4.0G 24.8G  14% /mnt/mmcblk0p2
  5.5T  2.4T  3.0T  44% /mnt/music
  //192.168.1.3/vol15.5T  5.4T 26.5G 100% /mnt/backup
  
  Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 30 GB, 32010928128 bytes, 62521344 sectors
  976896 cylinders, 4 heads, 16 sectors/track
  Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
  
  Device   Boot StartCHSEndCHSStartLBA EndLBASectors  
Size Id Type
  /dev/mmcblk0p10,130,3 8,170,34  8192 139263 131072 
64.0M  c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
  /dev/mmcblk0p28,170,351023,254,63 139264   62324735   62185472 
29.6G 83 Linux
  



And under SD Create Image:

Disk Size: 30528 mb

Disk Partitions: 2

Partition # Label LBA Start LBA End Size

Partition 1: PCP_BOOT 8192 139263 64 mb

Partition 2: PCP_ROOT 139264 62324735 1692 mb


Created file:
-a11/02/2021 16:48 4412569470
PCP-XLR-LMS-pCP7.0.1-1760mb-20210211163313.img.gz

Also I note that 'pcp ic' runs in blocking mode i.e. not in the
background so not sure if that has any impact on being run by cron.
Does anyone know if there's a CLI to LMS to shut it down beforehand, and
restart it afterwards?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-12 Thread mr-b


Tx. It'd be good to flag that the process is run in the background as
the web page spins, so it's not obvious.
Also about LMS ideally needing to be shutdown, unless it can do that
too.
I'll see how cron works out with pcp ic.

And is there any reason why pigz.tcz isn't included by default? Why
would one *not* want parallel gzip?
-rw-rw-r--1 tc   staff53248 Feb 11 11:40
/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional/pigz.tcz


Tx for a great feature!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-11 Thread paul-

There might be a math error in the size calculations.  I’ll take a
look.

Navigating away from the imaging page should not hurt anything.   The
processes should still run to completion.   Obviously a reboot before
it’s done will be a problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-11 Thread mr-b


I loaded the parallel gzip pigz.tcz extension and got much better
results after rebooting.
Net transfer speed was about 15-20MB/s, but it dropped to 200KB/s for
quite a while. Rpi4 on GigE switch.
It took about 15min to write 4300MB gzip file, but it's odd that it says
"Writing 1760mb image".

[ INFO ] Creating all partition disk backup
[ INFO ] Image - PCP-XLR-LMS-pCP7.0.1-1760mb-20210211163313.img.gz
[ INFO ] Location - /mnt/backup/images/
[ INFO ] This may take a while...
[ INFO ] Writing 1760mb image
...DONE


PS T:\images> dir


Directory: T:\images


Mode LastWriteTime Length Name
 - -- 
-a11/02/2021 11:55 4260028416
PCP-XLR-LMS-pCP7.0.1-1760mb-2021021950.img.gz
-a11/02/2021 11:55 4374199835
PCP-XLR-LMS-pCP7.0.1-1760mb-2021024057.img.gz
-a11/02/2021 12:16 4413136491
PCP-XLR-LMS-pCP7.0.1-1760mb-20210211120222.img.gz
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-11 Thread mr-b


I've discovered that if I mount a writable share under LMS Network Mount
then that mount will appear in the image location drop-down, so that
looks promising. It's managed to write a 0 byte file so far but Resource
Monitor doesn't indicate any file writing activity. Will do some more
digging.

The cmd then says "Things can be sped up if you install extension
pigz.tcz from the extension page." but of course by then it's a bit late
to discover that!
Any chance this could be flagged on the initial page if it can't be
included by default for some reason?

Also what happens if I navigate away from the backup page?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-11 Thread Rainer Krug


> On 11 Feb 2021, at 11:30, mr-b  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This looks really useful as it's a PITA fiddling about removing the
> sd-card to back it up separately.

Wow - was looking for something like that for some time. Thanks.

> 
> I had a few questions:
> 
> - the first box says 'Disk Information'. So is this about the source
> i.e. sd-card or the destination i.e. a disk? The info looks like it's
> the sd-card partition info.
> 
> - on the Image Location, can this be a network location (like for the
> LMS music library?). My music library is on a read-only share so it
> can't use that.  Some of the destinations look like they are on the
> sd-card already so won't this cause a conflict?
> 
> - Is there a way of scheduling the backup?

That would be nice, although only really useful, if the LMS database is on the 
SD card.

> 
> - How does this affect the integrity of LMS database? Does it
> temporarily shut it down beforehand?

This would be a useful addition - although I would go one step further, to 
include the possibility to make a backup of the LMS database (even when on an 
external drive) into an additional image or folder. In this case, LMS could be 
switched off temporarily to get a consistent backup.

Thanks a lot,

Rainer



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[SlimDevices: Unix] New sd-card image backup feature in pCP 7.0.1

2021-02-11 Thread mr-b


This looks really useful as it's a PITA fiddling about removing the
sd-card to back it up separately.

I had a few questions:

- the first box says 'Disk Information'. So is this about the source
i.e. sd-card or the destination i.e. a disk? The info looks like it's
the sd-card partition info.

- on the Image Location, can this be a network location (like for the
LMS music library?). My music library is on a read-only share so it
can't use that.  Some of the destinations look like they are on the
sd-card already so won't this cause a conflict?

- Is there a way of scheduling the backup?

- How does this affect the integrity of LMS database? Does it
temporarily shut it down beforehand?



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