date:20170412

You're very kind, Jonathan.  Thank you for the generous words.

I like things that get people outside.  This is a wonderful planet 
indeed - history, prehistory - so much to learn.

I hope your app does very well.

You may find it inspiring to read up on iNaturalist.  It's a charming 
app (not made in LC as far as I know, but charming just the same) that 
encourages people to share flora and fauna sightings.  It's managed to 
get some good press, lots to read up on.

One of the great things in their story is how they seem to have really 
tapped into the strength of their core audience.  You'll see some very 
enthusiastic users in the news stories about you can find.

Hooking into the human side of things with your app may be at least 
equally engaging.

I hope it is.

Sounds like you're on the right track by starting with a focus on 
history buffs as a core target audience.

So many history clubs and historical societies and more, each with their 
own newletters and web sites and Facebook pages - earn respect among 
some and they'll spread the word for you.

- rg

jonathandlynch wwrote:

This is good advice Richard. Thank you.

My app, Augmented Earth, is free. The money will (eventually) come from ads, in 
theory. The idea is for users to add interesting reports in different 
categories linked to specific geographic spots. Other users can then read those 
reports when they are near that location. It is like Pokémon go, but with 
interesting information rather than imaginary critters.

It is a way for people to appreciate how amazing the world really is.

I have not really segmented or defined my target market very thoroughly yet. 
Your comment makes me think I need to do that now, before I release the mobile 
version.

I have shown it to three history professors, and they loved it, so I think I 
should seek history buffs as one group of testers.

Good advice - thanks!

On Apr 12, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode  wrote:

jonathandlynch wrote:

> I guess I will do a lot of asking around for the general public
> opinion.

Prospective customers are great for several reasons:

- They represent your target market, so their interests
 and skill level will be a good match for assessing
 not only technical fitness but also usability.

- They're more motivated than most because they'll benefit
 directly from what the product delivers.

- When encouraged to speak candidly they'll be a wealth
 of information about possible new features for v2.0,
 opportunities for refinements in v1.1.

- Some will be so grateful to work with a vendor that actually
 listens to customers that they'll be happy to put in the time
 for great testing just to get a free license for the software.

- If you don't already have a list of prospects to contact
 about testing that may be an indicator of the state of
 your marketing plan.  After all, if you can't find prospective
 users who'd want a sneak preview of something that will benefit
 the work they do, you won't be able to find prospective users
 to become customers.

Cultivate that inner circle of end-users and so much becomes much easier...

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Re: How do you find beta testers?

This is good advice Richard. Thank you.

My app, Augmented Earth, is free. The money will (eventually) come from ads, in 
theory. The idea is for users to add interesting reports in different 
categories linked to specific geographic spots. Other users can then read those 
reports when they are near that location. It is like Pokémon go, but with 
interesting information rather than imaginary critters.

It is a way for people to appreciate how amazing the world really is.

I have not really segmented or defined my target market very thoroughly yet. 
Your comment makes me think I need to do that now, before I release the mobile 
version.

I have shown it to three history professors, and they loved it, so I think I 
should seek history buffs as one group of testers.

Good advice - thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> jonathandlynch wrote:
> 
> > I guess I will do a lot of asking around for the general public
> > opinion.
> 
> Prospective customers are great for several reasons:
> 
> - They represent your target market, so their interests
>  and skill level will be a good match for assessing
>  not only technical fitness but also usability.
> 
> - They're more motivated than most because they'll benefit
>  directly from what the product delivers.
> 
> - When encouraged to speak candidly they'll be a wealth
>  of information about possible new features for v2.0,
>  opportunities for refinements in v1.1.
> 
> - Some will be so grateful to work with a vendor that actually
>  listens to customers that they'll be happy to put in the time
>  for great testing just to get a free license for the software.
> 
> - If you don't already have a list of prospects to contact
>  about testing that may be an indicator of the state of
>  your marketing plan.  After all, if you can't find prospective
>  users who'd want a sneak preview of something that will benefit
>  the work they do, you won't be able to find prospective users
>  to become customers.
> 
> Cultivate that inner circle of end-users and so much becomes much easier...
> 
> -- 
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Re: OT (?): Bookmarking GPS coords

2017-04-12 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode

Thanks Paul. I'm struggling to find time to get my Android environment
setup working (restrictions on my time, more than actual problems), so
it may take me a few days to even try it out, but it would be good to
know that I have a stack that *should* work, so please do send me
directly a copy of that one-card stack.

Thanks again.

Alex.

On 13/04/2017 01:04, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode wrote:

Alex, I used this lesson [
http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069/l/30379-how-do-i-get-the-location-and-use-the-digital-compass
] as the basis for a GPS location in one of my iOS apps, if it helps I could
save the relevant card to a new stack and send you a copy, I’m pretty sure it
would work on Android too, I just haven’t tested that.

It wouldn’t be difficult to adapt it for your needs.

Paul

On 12 Apr 2017, at 16:45, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
wrote:

On 11/04/2017 01:40, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:

Rather than travel physically, could you just move in the map, and program it
to record your click locations in a map?

Indeed. Earlier I talked about a 'desktop app' and a 'mobile app'. The 'desktop
app' is exactly what you describe - it shows you a map, lets you position a
marker and then only one click is needed to associate that marker's position
with the current selected named address.

But (esp. out here in the boonies :-), the map is sometimes lacking enough
detail to allow accurate positioning by anyone who is not a map enthusiast, so
I see a need for the mobile / GPS app in addition.

Thanks
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Re: OT (?): Bookmarking GPS coords

2017-04-12 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode

Alex, I used this lesson [ 
http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069/l/30379-how-do-i-get-the-location-and-use-the-digital-compass
 ] as the basis for a GPS location in one of my iOS apps, if it helps I could 
save the relevant card to a new stack and send you a copy, I’m pretty sure it 
would work on Android too, I just haven’t tested that.

It wouldn’t be difficult to adapt it for your needs.

Paul

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 16:45, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/04/2017 01:40, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Rather than travel physically, could you just move in the map, and program 
>> it to record your click locations in a map?
>> 
>> 
> Indeed. Earlier I talked about a 'desktop app' and a 'mobile app'. The 
> 'desktop app' is exactly what you describe  - it shows you a map, lets you 
> position a marker and then only one click is needed to associate that 
> marker's position with the current selected named address.
> 
> But (esp. out here in the boonies :-), the map is sometimes lacking enough 
> detail to allow accurate positioning by anyone who is not a map enthusiast, 
> so I see a need for the mobile / GPS app in addition.
> 
> Thanks
> Alex.
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Re: OT (?): Bookmarking GPS coords

2017-04-12 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode




On 11/04/2017 01:40, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:

Rather than travel physically, could you just move in the map, and program it 
to record your click locations in a map?


Indeed. Earlier I talked about a 'desktop app' and a 'mobile app'. The 
'desktop app' is exactly what you describe  - it shows you a map, lets 
you position a marker and then only one click is needed to associate 
that marker's position with the current selected named address.


But (esp. out here in the boonies :-), the map is sometimes lacking 
enough detail to allow accurate positioning by anyone who is not a map 
enthusiast, so I see a need for the mobile / GPS app in addition.


Thanks
Alex.

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Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode

Hi Folks

You probably want to get some docs for the robot and find out the service UUID 
that it offers then scan for peripherals with that service UUID. That’s the 
normal way of doing things but if there’s no docs available (from the looks of 
their downloads page you will need to request dev docs) you can scan for any 
peripherals and inspect them to work out what’s on offer. It would be great to 
get a write up of this for the LC blog if you get it all working.

The demo stack are inside that Ext folder which on mac is inside the app bundle 
-> Contents > Tools > Ext > mergBLE  > mergBLE.livecode. It isn’t 
pretty (just the baste basics needed to test functionality). We know this isn’t 
the most helpful location. At some point it would be nice to have a open demo 
stack button on the docs.

Cheers

Monte
> On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:30 am, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have a look in the dictionary.  I don't know if Monte still has the demo
> stacks available, but perhaps that would also help.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have never used it, but this is in the LC forum:
>> 
>> try
>>  mergBLEStopScanningForPeripherals
>> catch e
>>  answer e
>> end try
>> 
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=28007=
>> 147215=mergBLE#p147215
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I must be really stupid . . . but . . .
>>> 
>>> How do I use mergBLE to get a simple list of BlueTooth devices in a
>>> listField?
>>> 
>>> Richmond.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/12/17 4:08 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 
 That looks really cool (for teaching)!
 
 "PLEASE NOTE: Blue-Bot® is compatible with any iOS device with version
 3.0/4.0+ EDR Bluetooth (e.g. iPad3 and later)"
 
 So...  I would think you would use mergBLE for this.
 http://mergext.com/home/mergble/
 
 ~Roger
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html
> 
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121
> 
> I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end
> rather than the crappy interface that
> one has to pay $50 for that stinks.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> 
> On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> Robot?
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .
>> 
>>> 1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richmond.
>>> 
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Re: How do you find beta testers?


jonathandlynch wrote:

> I guess I will do a lot of asking around for the general public
> opinion.

Prospective customers are great for several reasons:

- They represent your target market, so their interests
  and skill level will be a good match for assessing
  not only technical fitness but also usability.

- They're more motivated than most because they'll benefit
  directly from what the product delivers.

- When encouraged to speak candidly they'll be a wealth
  of information about possible new features for v2.0,
  opportunities for refinements in v1.1.

- Some will be so grateful to work with a vendor that actually
  listens to customers that they'll be happy to put in the time
  for great testing just to get a free license for the software.

- If you don't already have a list of prospects to contact
  about testing that may be an indicator of the state of
  your marketing plan.  After all, if you can't find prospective
  users who'd want a sneak preview of something that will benefit
  the work they do, you won't be able to find prospective users
  to become customers.

Cultivate that inner circle of end-users and so much becomes much easier...

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Re: AW: vertical text?


hh wrote:

>> Richard G. wrote:
>> On disk the Linux build of CEF takes up 135 MBs, and like any
>> browser I would imagine it more than doubles RAM requirements
>> for an app using it.
>
> I would even give a full Gigabyte of RAM if this could make the
> browser widget work on linux ...

I've had pretty good luck on Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit - what's your setup?

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Re: How do you find beta testers?

Thanks Jacqueline - sadly my budget is based on my excess cash flow, and I have 
2 kids in private school, so that number is somewhere around negative zero.

However, I know quite a few programmers and design people. Maybe I could 
exchange favors.

I guess I will do a lot of asking around for the general public opinion.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2017, at 4:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 4/12/17 1:06 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>> I have been getting feedback from friends and family on my app, but I
>> want to find a wider circle of testers. I plan to seek testers on the
>> use-list as well, but for now I am trying to find a couple dozen
>> nonprogrammers so I can judge how the average public reacts to the
>> app.
>> 
>> How do those of you who program for the general public do this?
> 
> Since I do mostly client work, I hire someone. I use a professional QA tester 
> who's very good (let me know privately if you want more info.) For 
> non-commercial projects I do what you're planning to do -- ask around.
> 
> If you can afford it, I really recommend a professional QA person. They know 
> how to test, and they put the app through rigorous trials that cover all 
> situations including edge cases most people won't think of. They can set up a 
> bug database for you and they follow established methodology for ensuring the 
> software is as good as it can be. It really is a skill that the general 
> public is not prepared to do.
> 
> You do need a budget though.
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Re: How do you find beta testers?

2017-04-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode


On 4/12/17 1:06 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:

I have been getting feedback from friends and family on my app, but I
want to find a wider circle of testers. I plan to seek testers on the
use-list as well, but for now I am trying to find a couple dozen
nonprogrammers so I can judge how the average public reacts to the
app.

How do those of you who program for the general public do this?


Since I do mostly client work, I hire someone. I use a professional QA 
tester who's very good (let me know privately if you want more info.) 
For non-commercial projects I do what you're planning to do -- ask around.


If you can afford it, I really recommend a professional QA person. They 
know how to test, and they put the app through rigorous trials that 
cover all situations including edge cases most people won't think of. 
They can set up a bug database for you and they follow established 
methodology for ensuring the software is as good as it can be. It really 
is a skill that the general public is not prepared to do.


You do need a budget though.

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Re: AW: vertical text?

2017-04-12 Thread hh via use-livecode

> Richard G. wrote:
> On disk the Linux build of CEF takes up 135 MBs, and like any browser I
> would imagine it more than doubles RAM requirements for an app using it. 

I would even give a full Gigabyte of RAM if this could make the browser
widget work on linux ...

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Re: AW: vertical text?

Roger Eller wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> >> Jonathan L. wrote:
>> >> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind
>> >> the "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
...
>> It's great when you truly need an embedded web browser, but for small
>> one-offs like this I'd be reluctant to add the extra RAM and disk
>> space requirements.
>
> This is really the first mention I've seen of the resource
> requirements of certain widgets.

Most widgets use only what's in the LiveCode engine, and don't carry 
much additional overhead beyond what we might expect for the respective 
elements involved (images, code, etc.).

The browser widget is a very special case, since it's an entire browser 
application embedded within your app.

On disk the Linux build of CEF takes up 135 MBs, and like any browser I 
would imagine it more than doubles RAM requirements for an app using it.

When you need an embedded browser it's awesome.  It's just a lot to add 
if you only need small things like rotated text, which can be handled 
well with LC Script or LC Builder in same process your app is already 
running in.

> Assuming that overhead is minimal just because it is so
> darn easy to add to a stack will be our downfall.  :)

macOS is so easy to use it must fit on a single floppy. :)

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Re: AW: vertical text?

This is really the first mention I've seen of the resource requirements of
certain widgets.  Assuming that overhead is minimal just because it is so
darn easy to add to a stack will be our downfall.  :)

~Roger


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> hh wrote:
> >> Jonathan L. wrote:
> >> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind
> >> the "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
> >
> > Right, but only to a certain degree.
> >
> > LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the
> > javascript of a browser widget.
> >
> > The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
> > ... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system
> > or available in the stack.
> > ... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.
> >
> > Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).
>
> No to mention that using a browser widget means adding an entire browser
> process to your LiveCode application.
>
> It's great when you truly need an embedded web browser, but for small
> one-offs like this I'd be reluctant to add the extra RAM and disk space
> requirements.
>
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Re: AW: vertical text?


hh wrote:
>> Jonathan L. wrote:
>> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind
>> the "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
>
> Right, but only to a certain degree.
>
> LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the
> javascript of a browser widget.
>
> The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
> ... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system
> or available in the stack.
> ... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.
>
> Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).

No to mention that using a browser widget means adding an entire browser 
process to your LiveCode application.


It's great when you truly need an embedded web browser, but for small 
one-offs like this I'd be reluctant to add the extra RAM and disk space 
requirements.


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How do you find beta testers?

I have been getting feedback from friends and family on my app, but I want to 
find a wider circle of testers. I plan to seek testers on the use-list as well, 
but for now I am trying to find a couple dozen nonprogrammers so I can judge 
how the average public reacts to the app.

How do those of you who program for the general public do this?

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Re: how to print only a part of a card?

2017-04-12 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode

Tiemo,

There’s nothing wrong with your logic, this all works fine on a Mac, LC8.1.4 
(rc1), but from an earlier post I gather you are on Win 10 so this looks like 
there's a bug in the works, maybe a Linux user could test also.

Have you tried any other versions of LC?

HTH

Paul

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 06:40, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> probably I don't see the obvious or my math is slightly rusty. I am trying
> to print only a section of a card, e.g. a rectangle, but I always only get a
> (left and bottom) clipped rectangle being printed. Only when printing the
> whole card I get the full rectangle. I am running out of paper from my
> multiple tests :)
> 
> Here is what I tried:
> 
> 
> 
> on mouseUp
> 
>   # create a stack, size: 348,527
> 
> # create a button with this script
> 
>   # create a rectangle, size: 297,421
> 
>   -- set the printpapersize to 595,842 # optional test # A4
> 
>   -- set the printmargins to 40,57,40,57 # optional test
> 
>   -- set the printscale to .5 # optional test
> 
> 
> 
>   open printing with dialog
> 
>   if the result is not "cancel" then
> 
>  put the left of grc "rectangle" into item 1 of tLeftTop
> 
>  put the top of grc "rectangle" into item 2 of tLeftTop
> 
>  put the right of grc "rectangle" into item 1 of tRightBottom
> 
>  put the bottom of grc "rectangle" into item 2 of tRightBottom
> 
> 
> 
>  print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom
> 
>  -- print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom into 149,210,635, #
> optional test
> 
>  -- print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom into 40,57,337,478  #
> optional test  # margins+ rectangle
> 
> -- print this card # this is for me the only chance to get the whole
> rectangle printed
> 
>   end if
> 
>   close printing
> 
> end mouseUp
> 
> 
> 
> Does anybody see the error in my logic?
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
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APNS response twice?

Here's one I don't remember:
Send APNS
App gets pushNotificationReceived...twice, one right on top of the other.

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Re: "System" font on Mac - diff between LC 8 and LC 9??

2017-04-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode

Seems this is undesirable as a rule. What I do is set the font, size and style 
of the STACK to something, and then if I want the control to match the default 
of the stack, I set font size and style to empty.

Bob S


On Apr 11, 2017, at 20:14 , James Hale via use-livecode 
> wrote:

Could other with a Mac please give this a go to see if my observation is local 
to my machine alone?

Create a new stack in LC8 and place a field.
Open the message box and enter...
 set the htmltext of fld 1 to "this is bold and this is italic"

You should see
 this is bold and this is italic
(assuming the styles survive the emailing)
Now open the PI for the field and click on the FONT tab.
I think by default the font is called "Text" and it is one of the Lc named 
options.
Now change the font to "system".

Do the styles remain visible in the field?

Repeat the above with LC 9

For me...
With LC8 the styles disappear.
With LC9 they don't.



James

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Re: AW: vertical text?

That's nice, but text angle should come as standard a field property (in my
opinion).  There are many use cases for field labels or table headers to
sit on an angle for screen space consideration.

~Roger


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Paul Richards via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Not sure if this is of any help, but I came across a course by Livecode
> where they guide you through creating a rotating text Widget.
>
> https://livecode.com/courses/extension-course/  |
> https://livecode.com/lessons/rotated-text-widget/
>
> You might need to be logged into LC page
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
> Sent: 12 April 2017 16:14
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com; hh 
> Subject: Re: AW: vertical text?
>
> Having rotated text with transparent backgrounds could be very nice :)
>
> I was just suggesting the browser widget as the cheap and easy way.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 12, 2017, at 10:37 AM, hh via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> >> Jonathan L. wrote:
> >> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind the
> >> "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
> >
> > Right, but only to a certain degree.
> >
> > LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the
> > javascript of a browser widget.
> >
> > The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
> > ... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system or
> > available in the stack.
> > ... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.
> >
> > Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).
>
>
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tsneterr: HTTP response Code 400?

2017-04-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode

Hello,

LC 8.1.3 I have some "put URL ." with PHPs executed on my server, which runs
fine.

Now I get a support call from a (windows) customer who gets "tsneterr: HTTP
response Code 400 returned from server"

A "HTTP 400 error" usually is a bad request because of a bad HTTP syntax
sent by the client which can't be resolved by the server. Since my program
runs fine at "all" other customers and my test machines, I assume it must be
something very special going on at the clients machine or network and the
error 400 is not the "real" error, but there must be something other going
on, which doesn't sends a more specific error code. Since this customer is a
school, which probably has some security mechanism in their network, I
assume it could be related to that network topography.

Has anybody ever encountered an error 400 which was not related to a bad
syntax or any ideas, what I could check for at that customer?

Thanks for any ideas

Tiemo

 

 

 

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RE: AW: vertical text?

2017-04-12 Thread Paul Richards via use-livecode

Not sure if this is of any help, but I came across a course by Livecode where 
they guide you through creating a rotating text Widget. 

https://livecode.com/courses/extension-course/  | 
https://livecode.com/lessons/rotated-text-widget/ 

You might need to be logged into LC page 


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Sent: 12 April 2017 16:14
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com; hh 
Subject: Re: AW: vertical text?

Having rotated text with transparent backgrounds could be very nice :)

I was just suggesting the browser widget as the cheap and easy way.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 12, 2017, at 10:37 AM, hh via use-livecode 
 wrote:

>> Jonathan L. wrote:
>> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind the 
>> "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
> 
> Right, but only to a certain degree.
> 
> LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the 
> javascript of a browser widget.
> 
> The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
> ... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system or 
> available in the stack.
> ... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.
> 
> Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).
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Re: AW: vertical text?

Having rotated text with transparent backgrounds could be very nice :)

I was just suggesting the browser widget as the cheap and easy way.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 12, 2017, at 10:37 AM, hh via use-livecode 
 wrote:

>> Jonathan L. wrote:
>> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind
>> the "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.
> 
> Right, but only to a certain degree.
> 
> LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the
> javascript of a browser widget.
> 
> The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
> ... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system
> or available in the stack.
> ... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.
> 
> Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).
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Re: LC and OneSignal


Dan Friedman wrote:
> Hello!  Has anyone implemented push messaging with OneSignal
> (https://onesignal.com)?  It’s running great for me on iOS, but can’t
> get it to work correctly with a LiveCode Android app.  Anyone have
> any expierence with LC and OneSignal?

Interesting.  Thanks for the link.

What are the advantages of a third-party notification service?

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Re: AW: vertical text?

2017-04-12 Thread hh via use-livecode

> Jonathan L. wrote:
> This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind
> the "always on top" aspect of browser widgets.

Right, but only to a certain degree.

LC Builder has _a lot_ of possibilities different from using the
javascript of a browser widget.

The very basic widget linked above, for example ...
... allows the user to select _any_ textfont on _his_ system
or available in the stack.
... can have everything outside the rotated box transparent.

Both is not doable in a browser widget (and not by _any_ browser).

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Re: mergEXT

Have a look in the dictionary.  I don't know if Monte still has the demo
stacks available, but perhaps that would also help.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
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> I have never used it, but this is in the LC forum:
>
> try
>   mergBLEStopScanningForPeripherals
> catch e
>   answer e
> end try
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=28007=
> 147215=mergBLE#p147215
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > I must be really stupid . . . but . . .
> >
> > How do I use mergBLE to get a simple list of BlueTooth devices in a
> > listField?
> >
> > Richmond.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/12/17 4:08 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
> >
> >> That looks really cool (for teaching)!
> >>
> >> "PLEASE NOTE: Blue-Bot® is compatible with any iOS device with version
> >> 3.0/4.0+ EDR Bluetooth (e.g. iPad3 and later)"
> >>
> >> So...  I would think you would use mergBLE for this.
> >> http://mergext.com/home/mergble/
> >>
> >> ~Roger
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121
> >>>
> >>> I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end
> >>> rather than the crappy interface that
> >>> one has to pay $50 for that stinks.
> >>>
> >>> Richmond.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Robot?
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>  OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .
> 
> > 1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?
> >
> >
> > Richmond.
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\"System\" font on Mac - diff between LC 8 and LC 9??

2017-04-12 Thread James Hale via use-livecode

So, in LC8 changes were made to the UI font themes and the System font was one 
new addition.
According to the dictionary...
 
 The list of font names includes a set of special-purpose names which
automatically select the matching font for the platform. You can use 
these to request "the font used for buttons" without having to hard-code
platform-specific font names. These fonts are:
- (Text) - the font used for fields and other controls with editable content
- (Menu) - the font used for menu items
- (Message) - the font used for buttons, labels and other communication from 
the app
- (Styled Text) - the font used by default for rich text
- (System) - the font for controls not covered by another category
- (Tooltip) - the font used for displaying tooltips
- (Default) - selects one of the UI fonts automatically based on the control 
type

Given what I am seeing is on the latest MacOS and there seems to be a 
difference between LC8 and LC9 it would seem that as the underlying OS is the 
same LC9 is picking a different font for "System" than LC8.

Judging by f/b this only occurs for MacOS 10.11 or later.

Perhaps LC9 is picking a different font than LC8 which only becomes apparent in 
these later OS's
Perhaps LC9 has a bug and is falling back on some other mechanism to allocate 
the actual font to the "System".

It would probably be good to know, one way or the other in case it reverts or 
breaks again with the next OS release.





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Re: mergEXT

I have never used it, but this is in the LC forum:

try
  mergBLEStopScanningForPeripherals
catch e
  answer e
end try

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=28007=147215=mergBLE#p147215


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I must be really stupid . . . but . . .
>
> How do I use mergBLE to get a simple list of BlueTooth devices in a
> listField?
>
> Richmond.
>
>
>
> On 4/12/17 4:08 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> That looks really cool (for teaching)!
>>
>> "PLEASE NOTE: Blue-Bot® is compatible with any iOS device with version
>> 3.0/4.0+ EDR Bluetooth (e.g. iPad3 and later)"
>>
>> So...  I would think you would use mergBLE for this.
>> http://mergext.com/home/mergble/
>>
>> ~Roger
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html
>>>
>>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121
>>>
>>> I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end
>>> rather than the crappy interface that
>>> one has to pay $50 for that stinks.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
>>>
>>> Robot?


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 OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .

> 1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?
>
>
> Richmond.
>
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Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


I must be really stupid . . . but . . .

How do I use mergBLE to get a simple list of BlueTooth devices in a 
listField?


Richmond.


On 4/12/17 4:08 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:

That looks really cool (for teaching)!

"PLEASE NOTE: Blue-Bot® is compatible with any iOS device with version
3.0/4.0+ EDR Bluetooth (e.g. iPad3 and later)"

So...  I would think you would use mergBLE for this.
http://mergext.com/home/mergble/

~Roger


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use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121

I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end
rather than the crappy interface that
one has to pay $50 for that stinks.

Richmond.


On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:


Robot?


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .

1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?


Richmond.


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Re: AW: vertical text?

This is also easy to do in a browser widget, if you don't mind the "always on 
top" aspect of browser widgets.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2017, at 10:02 AM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> LC Script gives you only the possibility to have a rotated _image_
> of "real" horizontal text.
> 
> In LC Builder you have the possibility for rotating "real" horizontal
> text itself (use your font and size), not only a snapshot.
> 
> Here is an easy example how to do that
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=148690#p148690
> 
> This is an lcb file (it has to be the only lcb-file in its folder.
> Then open it in the 'Extensions Builder' and hit "Test").
> Create your own widget from it.
> 
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AW: vertical text?

2017-04-12 Thread hh via use-livecode

Hi Tiemo,

LC Script gives you only the possibility to have a rotated _image_
of "real" horizontal text.

In LC Builder you have the possibility for rotating "real" horizontal
text itself (use your font and size), not only a snapshot.

Here is an easy example how to do that
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=148690#p148690

This is an lcb file (it has to be the only lcb-file in its folder.
Then open it in the 'Extensions Builder' and hit "Test").
Create your own widget from it.

Hermann

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how to print only a part of a card?

2017-04-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode

Hello,

probably I don't see the obvious or my math is slightly rusty. I am trying
to print only a section of a card, e.g. a rectangle, but I always only get a
(left and bottom) clipped rectangle being printed. Only when printing the
whole card I get the full rectangle. I am running out of paper from my
multiple tests :)

Here is what I tried:

 

on mouseUp

   # create a stack, size: 348,527

# create a button with this script

   # create a rectangle, size: 297,421

   -- set the printpapersize to 595,842 # optional test # A4

   -- set the printmargins to 40,57,40,57 # optional test

   -- set the printscale to .5 # optional test

   

   open printing with dialog

   if the result is not "cancel" then

  put the left of grc "rectangle" into item 1 of tLeftTop

  put the top of grc "rectangle" into item 2 of tLeftTop

  put the right of grc "rectangle" into item 1 of tRightBottom

  put the bottom of grc "rectangle" into item 2 of tRightBottom

  

  print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom

  -- print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom into 149,210,635, #
optional test

  -- print this card from tLeftTop to tRightBottom into 40,57,337,478  #
optional test  # margins+ rectangle

-- print this card # this is for me the only chance to get the whole
rectangle printed

   end if

   close printing

end mouseUp

 

Does anybody see the error in my logic?

Tiemo

 

 

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AW: vertical text?

2017-04-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode

Nice conversion!
But I was looking for a rotated text by -90 degrees.
Thanks Tiemo


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von AndyP via use-livecode
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. April 2017 13:14
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Cc: AndyP 
Betreff: Re: vertical text?

Try This:

Add a field named "Input"

Add this script to the field

on returnInField
  send "mouseUp" to button "Format"
end returnInField

Add a button named "Format"

Add this script to the button

local tWidth
local tHeight
local tChars
local tCount
local tTemp

on mouseUp
   
   put the formattedWidth of char 1 of fld "Input" into tWidth 
   put the formattedHeight of char 1 of fld "Input" into tHeight 
   put the number of chars of fld "Input" into tChars
   set the Width of fld "Input" to tWidth*2
   
   put fld "Input" into tTemp
   put empty into fld "Input"
   repeat with tCount = 1 to tChars
  put char tCount of tTemp into char 1 of line tCount of fld "Input"
   end repeat
   filter fld "Input" without empty
   set the height of fld "Input" to the formattedHeight of fld "Input"
   set the leftMargin of fld "Input" to 2
   set the rightMargin of fld "Input" to 2
   set the topMargin of fld "Input" to 4
   set the bottomMargin of fld "Input" to 4
   set the textAlign of fld "Input" to center
   set the textHeight of fld "Input" to the textSize
   
end mouseUp

Now enter text into the field, when you hit return the field is resized to
fit the now vertical text.




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Re: mergEXT

That looks really cool (for teaching)!

"PLEASE NOTE: Blue-Bot® is compatible with any iOS device with version
3.0/4.0+ EDR Bluetooth (e.g. iPad3 and later)"

So...  I would think you would use mergBLE for this.
http://mergext.com/home/mergble/

~Roger


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121
>
> I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end
> rather than the crappy interface that
> one has to pay $50 for that stinks.
>
> Richmond.
>
>
> On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Robot?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .
>>>
>>> 1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?
>>>
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
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Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


Yup: https://www.bee-bot.us/bluebot.html

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=29121

I really would like to control the Blue-Bot via a LiveCode front-end 
rather than the crappy interface that

one has to pay $50 for that stinks.

Richmond.

On 4/12/17 3:58 pm, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:

Robot?


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .

1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?


Richmond.



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Re: mergEXT

Robot?


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .
>
> 1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?
>
>
> Richmond.
>
>
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Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


OK: now for the goofy questions . . . .

1. How do I find my robot's pUUID on a Mac?

Richmond.
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Re: mergEXT

on mac, its in Contents->Tools->Ext

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> you don't download it.  It's built in.
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> " an Indy or Business license, will I get mergEXT automatically? Yes!"
>>
>> As I have an Indy licence I would be grateful if I could find out
>> where I can download mergEXT.
>>
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On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."
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Re: mergEXT

2017-04-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


Thanks for the heads up!

Richmond.

On 4/12/17 3:43 pm, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

you don't download it.  It's built in.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


" an Indy or Business license, will I get mergEXT automatically? Yes!"

As I have an Indy licence I would be grateful if I could find out
where I can download mergEXT.

Richmond.
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