Re: Survey: Would you buy one or more widgets from the PRO PACK separately?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 14.06.2024 um 21:01 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Of those listed, I would pay for (if I needed to, but I have the full LC that 
> includes extensions) the PDF Viewer and, possibly, tsNet PRO
> I do not develop for mobile, so mobile widgets are not of any immediate 
> interest.

sorry for the late response, thank you very much for you feedback!

> On 6/14/2024 2:19 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> Livecode is selling most of their widgets separately,
>> however not the ones from the PRO PACK:
>> Mobile Debugger
>> Script Profiler
>> tsNet PRO
>> mergAccessory
>> PDF Viewer
>> 
>> But unfortunately the PRO PACK is quite expensive:
>> 328.90 Euro PLUS VAT!
>> 
>> I am sure most of you do not need all the widgets in the
>> PRO PACK, but maybe one or two of them.
>> 
>> So please just write if you'd like to buy one or more of these,
>> maybe we can induce LC to also sell them separately.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> I confess that this is a quite selfish idea from me, I only
>> use the PDF Viewer widget in my freeware* app and the
>> app exclusively made for my band mates, three of us use
>> an iPad and two of us an Android tablet.
>> 
>> *It's actually "donationware", but noone donated any money
>> so far in the last couple of years. :-/
>> 
>> I bought the complete PRO Pack in the last three years,
>> although I ONLY need the PDF viewer, but cannot afford
>> this anymore. Especially since I do not earn any money
>> with my apps and I need to renew my Apple Developer
>> Membership in october.
>> 
>> I would LOVE to buy just the PDF widget separately!
>> 
>> Thank you for reading!
>> 
>> P.S.
>> Since Android browser cannot display PDF files out of the box,
>> this is no alternative for me.

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Survey: Would you buy one or more widgets from the PRO PACK separately?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

Livecode is selling most of their widgets separately,
however not the ones from the PRO PACK:
Mobile Debugger
Script Profiler
tsNet PRO
mergAccessory
PDF Viewer

But unfortunately the PRO PACK is quite expensive: 
328.90 Euro PLUS VAT!

I am sure most of you do not need all the widgets in the 
PRO PACK, but maybe one or two of them.

So please just write if you'd like to buy one or more of these, 
maybe we can induce LC to also sell them separately.

--

I confess that this is a quite selfish idea from me, I only
use the PDF Viewer widget in my freeware* app and the 
app exclusively made for my band mates, three of us use 
an iPad and two of us an Android tablet.

*It's actually "donationware", but noone donated any money
so far in the last couple of years. :-/

I bought the complete PRO Pack in the last three years, 
although I ONLY need the PDF viewer, but cannot afford 
this anymore. Especially since I do not earn any money 
with my apps and I need to renew my Apple Developer 
Membership in october. 

I would LOVE to buy just the PDF widget separately!

Thank you for reading!

P.S.
Since Android browser cannot display PDF files out of the box, 
this is no alternative for me.


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Re: error when creating iOS app: failed to create launch screen: SOLVED

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 30.05.2024 um 14:27 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I just wanted to create an iOS app with my new M2 MacMini.
> LC 9.6.11,
> Xcode 15.0
> Available Device SDKs: 17.0
> Available simulators: 17.0
> 
> All iOS icons and the launch image are present and have the 
> correct dimensions, however LC tells me:
> ---
> There was an error while saving the standalone application
> failed to create launch screen: /* com.apple.ibtoolerrors */
> /Volumes/ 1TB/Livecode Hilfe/Klaus/LeadSheeter
> X/Leadsheeter-X/Leadsheeter-X.app/LaunchScreen.storyboard:
> error: iOS 17.0 Platform Not installed.
> ---
> Platform not installed? What does that mean? What am I missing?
> Thanks for any hint.

obviously I did not open Xcode before...
Now I did and had to download and install platform 17.0.

Works as exspected now. :-)


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error when creating iOS app: failed to create launch screen: /* com.apple.ibtoolerrors */

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I just wanted to create an iOS app with my new M2 MacMini.
LC 9.6.11,
Xcode 15.0
Available Device SDKs: 17.0
Available simulators: 17.0

All iOS icons and the launch image are present and have the 
correct dimensions, however LC tells me:
---
There was an error while saving the standalone application
failed to create launch screen: /* com.apple.ibtoolerrors */
/Volumes/ 1TB/Livecode Hilfe/Klaus/LeadSheeter
X/Leadsheeter-X/Leadsheeter-X.app/LaunchScreen.storyboard:
error: iOS 17.0 Platform Not installed.
---
Platform not installed? What does that mean? What am I missing?
Thanks for any hint.


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Re: Strange syntax in new widgets!?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 25.05.2024 um 17:07 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> a couple of notes on bob's comments:
> * the widgets were written by a third party using lcb. lc purchased the
> source.

AHA! 
Well, that explains the "inconsistency" in the syntax.

> unfortunately, the source is closed, so your ability to improve
> them is limited. (then there's the whole matter of the property editor and
> property inspector not being documented, which makes fixing the properties
> panels for the widgets much more interesting)
> * i've completely replaced the segmented control and the tab panel with a
> polyList, because it's more flexible, and i can get more functionality out
> of it.
> * give the polygrid a try. it is much, much faster than the datagrid, and i
> have not had any issues with missing functionality (at least for what i'm
> using it for).

Don't get me wrong, this is a wonderful widget and I replaced the DataGrid 
with a PolyList/PolyGrid wherever possible in my projects.

> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:41 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes I was very surprised when first working with widgets how limited their
>> list of commands and properties are. The only widget I use is the segmented
>> control, and only then because the tab panel looks godaweful ugly in
>> Windows, and I can maintain visual constancy using the segmented control.

YES! Same here...

>> Well, also because I’m too lazy to implement any of the others just yet.
>> 
>> Don’t get me wrong, there are some great widgets. But trying to replicate
>> the functionality of datagrids, yeah not so much.
>> 
>> Bob S
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Re: Groups id #

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi jbv,

> Am 25.05.2024 um 16:20 schrieb jbv via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I have a script that creates groups on the fly
> with the command "group". These groups contain
> various flds and imgs.
> Can I always assume that the group with the highest
> id # is the last one created ?

sounds logical, but I'm not sure, maybe you could store the ID of the last 
group somewhere.
Use IT right after the groupd command:
...
select this_and_that
group
put IT into the_id_of_just_created_group
...

> Thanks,
> jbv

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Re: Strange syntax in new widgets!?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

> Am 21.05.2024 um 17:09 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I find a lot of the widget properties less than useful. Try setting the 
> widths of all the tabs of a segmented control to a specified width based upon 
> the total width of the widget.

no, I won't! :-D

> Bob S
> 
> On May 21, 2024, at 7:48 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> this came up in the LC forum: How can I delete a line in a PolyGrid?
> "deleteline" or something did not work, so I searched the dictionary
> and found that one needs to set a PROPERTY to do so:
> ...
> put 2 into tLine
> set the pgDeleteRow of widget "PolyGrid" to tLine
> ...

and to make the confusion complete we need to:
...
put 2 into tLine
set the deleteItem of widget "PolyList" to tLine
...
for PolyLists.

> Very intuitive in my opinion. NOT!
> Am I the only one who find this rather ridiculous? 8-)
> Come on Livecode, you can do better!

It appears to me that the new widgets have been created by someone who has no 
or very little knowledge of LC.

We have:
...
delete line 2 of fld 1
...
dispatch "DeleteLine" to group "DataGrid" with 2
...

So why not create a more or less similar syntax for new widgets, so we don't 
have 
to use the dictionary for similar tasks. I don't get it...


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Strange syntax in new widgets!?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi firends,

this came up in the LC forum: How can I delete a line in a PolyGrid?

"deleteline" or something did not work, so I searched the dictionary 
and found that one needs to set a PROPERTY to do so:
...
put 2 into tLine
set the pgDeleteRow of widget "PolyGrid" to tLine
...
Very intuitive in my opinion. NOT!

Am I the only one who find this rather ridiculous? 8-)
Come on Livecode, you can do better!



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Re: Supress Standalone Builder Warnings

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

as I already wrote in this thread in the LC forum:
-> Maybe the mothership could add another "messageless" application which will 
create the standalone(s)?

See here: 

> Am 06.05.2024 um 17:39 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Curry. Thanks for your help and Jacque as well. 
> 
> I did as you say, in card 1 of the splash stack (which is the stack I build 
> from because I do not have the need to modify it runtime) I have this code in 
> the card script: 
> 
> on closestack
>   --- curryk 2020 no-purge LC build:
>   if the environment is “development" then
>  lock messages
>  --- and only if add'l loaded MAIN stacks with issues:
>  try
> save stack "Forms Generator"
> delete stack "Forms Generator"
> # delete stack "XYZ" --- etc
>  end try
>   end if
> end closestack
> 
> The result is the first time I build everything goes smoothly (as it always 
> has.) The SECOND time I build I get an alert dialog for every stack that is a 
> behavior of something in the Main Stack or that I started using (library I 
> guess). 
> 
> The standalone Builder opens COPIES of these stacks to add to the standalone, 
> then LEAVES THEM OPEN IN MEMORY. THAT is the heart of the matter. The SB 
> ought not to do that! (I’m talking to you LC devs.) 
> 
> I suppose I could enumerate all of those and then just have code that 
> statically closes each stack. That is probably what I will do. 
> Deleting the main stack does not delete the COPIES of those library or 
> behavior stacks. 
> In summary the problem is not what is open when I go to build. The problem is 
> what is open after I build.
> Anyway, my thanks again for everyone who offered a suggestion on how to 
> resolve this. Sometime the brute force workaround is the only workaround. 
> 
> Bob S

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Re: Xcode 15.01 working with LC?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

thank you very much!
Currently downloading 15.0.

> Am 06.04.2024 um 22:35 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> i should further note that in lc settings, if you select 15.0.1, you will
> get the green box like all's well, but during the build you will get an
> error, late.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:34 PM Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
> 
>> it does not work, at least with 9.6.11
>> here's where you can find all the downloads, including xcode 15
>> https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=xcode
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi friends,
>>> 
>>> I am just setting up a new Mac Mini M2 and could not find
>>> Xcode 15.0 as recommended by LCs release notes, only 15.01
>>> on the Apple Dev download pages.
>>> 
>>> Will that work with LC?
>>> Or does someone have a link to version 15.0?

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Xcode 15.01 working with LC?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I am just setting up a new Mac Mini M2 and could not find
Xcode 15.0 as recommended by LCs release notes, only 15.01 
on the Apple Dev download pages.

Will that work with LC?
Or does someone have a link to version 15.0?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Dropping file on an LC standalone...

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Craig,

> Am 22.03.2024 um 13:44 schrieb Craig Newman via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What on earth is the “1$ special variable”?

well, 1$ sounds like a good bargain for a "special variable"! :-D

Actually it is -> $1
Look up $ in the dictionary for further information.

> Craig
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2024, at 6:58 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow I just read that and it didn’t even make sense to me!
>> 
>> Basically with Windows, dragging a file onto a taskbar icon only adds the 
>> file to the icon’s Pinned items. Dragging a file onto an open window of an 
>> App will try and open the file in that app. If the app’s window(s) are 
>> hidden, dragging and hovering over the app’s shortcut will cause the app to 
>> show it’s window(s) whereupon you can drop the file onto the open window.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does it have to be the icon? If I drag a file onto an app in the Windows 
>> Tack Bar it does nothing, even if the file belongs to the app I am dragging 
>> the file onto. If however I HOVER on the icon and the app is running, it 
>> will bring the app to the front and show the frontmost window if it is 
>> hidden.
>> 
>> If I drag the file onto the open Window, the app will open it. Case in 
>> point, drag an Excel spreadsheet onto the Excel icon in the task bar. All it 
>> will do is add a shortcut to the Excel icon for that file. But launch Excel, 
>> open a blank spreadsheet, then drag an excel file onto the icon, hover, then 
>> drop onto the blank Excel Spreadsheet. In THIS case it will open the 
>> spreadsheet in a new window.
>> 
>> Because of this you may be able to use a Drag / Drop handler in your card 
>> script. The caveat is that the card itself will not accept a drag/drop 
>> action, but if you drag anything on top of an actual object, THEN the card 
>> will get the message.
>> 
>> So to handle this, add an opaque rectangle the size of the card behind 
>> everything else (if the opacity is set to 99 it will appear transparent for 
>> all intents and purposes). The rectangle (or any other object on the card 
>> that doesn’t have a dragDrop handler) will get the message and it will fall 
>> through to the card where you can handle it.
>> 
>> This in my card script:
>> 
>> on dragEnter
>> set the dragAction to "link" -- for files
>> pass dragEnter
>> end dragEnter
>> 
>> on dragDrop
>> put the dragData into tDragData
>> set the dragData to empty
>> -- do something with tDragData
>> end dragDrop

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Re: is there something like "sockettimeoutinterval" for "put url... into aVariable"?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias,

> Am 17.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What URL type are you using? 

a https url on my server.

> When using http/ftp and so on then there is also tsNetSetTimeouts in case you 
> are using a commercial LC Version >=8.

Ah, great will try this, thank you!

>> Am 17.03.2024 um 18:17 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> see subject, any hints welcome.
>> Thanks in advance!

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is there something like "sockettimeoutinterval" for "put url... into aVariable"?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

see subject, any hints welcome.
Thanks in advance!


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Iconmaker 2.0

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

a new version of my plug-in "Iconmaker" is available, it now also creates .ICNS 
icon files for macOS apps.
Check it here: https://major-k.de/iconmaker.html


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Re: sideloading updates to mobile

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 21.02.2024 um 20:17 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> mobile device management:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_device_management
> it's like testflight on steroids. in our case, it would enable us to force
> app (and even os) updates on devices that are locked into single-app mode
> 
>>> i guess the other option would be to roll an mdm server 
>> sorry, but what does "mdm" mean?

thank you!


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Re: sideloading updates to mobile

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Am 21.02.2024 um 19:51 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
:
> 
> i guess the other option would be to roll an mdm server 

sorry, but what does "mdm" mean?

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Re: sideloading updates to mobile

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 21.02.2024 um 18:47 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> sorry that i was not clear. we've been using private deploys since around
> 2010, using airlaunch to generate the bundle, and then uploading to a
> private url. that's not what i meant.
> i'm talking about updating/patching an existing app, in place. the devices
> are in single-app mode, so we would either have to pay for mdm and then use
> that service to push app updates, OR, if we didn't use mdm, we could have
> the app pull the update and apply it.
> i can kind-of guess how to make it work, but i'm sure there are a couple of
> tricks that i don't want to have to figure out, if someone else has already
> figured it out.

you could use the "splashscreen" approach to update one or more stacks, but 
that will 
of course only work if you do not want to update the actual engine/runtime.

However I'm not sure if Apple will allow this, no problem on Android however.


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Re: Latest PolyGrid

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Hi all,

> Am 13.02.2024 um 19:17 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 1_0_33 is the version I am running as well. I had not seen any announcement 
> or email about a .34 release.

same here, I found out accidentally!

> Now I think I will try to avoid it and wait for .35!

Sounds like a good idea. :-)

Since the POLYGRID is the currently the only widget I'm using of the
"Enhancement package", I don't know if the other widget also have problems.
> 
> On 2/13/2024 11:45 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> yesterday I installed the latest version of "livecode_enhancements-1_0_34"
>> but the new "Polygrid" version 1.8.0 completely wrecked my working stack,
>> so I had to go back to the previous version 1.7.4.
>> 
>> E.g. it threw an error on my "on cellclick" handler just by setting:
>> -> set the pgData of me to tArray
>> 
>> on cellClick pColumnNumber,pRowNumber, pCellRect
>> -> ERROR: pColumnNumer is not a number (if I remember correctly)
>> 
>> Noone clicked anything I just set the pgData :-/
>> 
>> And also wrecked the order of its correctly prepared (in the array) content.
>> Big fun! :-/
>> 
>> Anyone else experienced something like this?
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus

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Latest PolyGrid

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

yesterday I installed the latest version of "livecode_enhancements-1_0_34"
but the new "Polygrid" version 1.8.0 completely wrecked my working stack, 
so I had to go back to the previous version 1.7.4.

E.g. it threw an error on my "on cellclick" handler just by setting:
-> set the pgData of me to tArray

on cellClick pColumnNumber,pRowNumber, pCellRect
-> ERROR: pColumnNumer is not a number (if I remember correctly)

Noone clicked anything I just set the pgData :-/

And also wrecked the order of its correctly prepared (in the array) content.
Big fun! :-/

Anyone else experienced something like this?


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Re: Just for interest

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Hi Christer,

> Am 31.01.2024 um 16:14 schrieb Christer Pyyhtiä via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I do not know, if measuring coding performance is reasonable.
> It would be interesting, if anyone has interest to try. 
> https://www.morling.dev/blog/one-billion-row-challenge/
> 
> Just for fun
> Christer Pyyhtiä
> christe...@gmail.com

well:
-
...running from Jan 1 until Jan 31. 2024
Any submission must be written in Java.
-
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Re: tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

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Hi Matthias,

thank you very much!

Since Alex already spotted my problem, I will store this for future reference.

> Am 17.12.2023 um 12:45 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus.
> 
> please see the example below. In my example i am posting a zip file with 
> images to a livecode server script
> Livecode script
> on mouseup
>  ...
> I hope there is no error in my example. I simplified my original code for the 
> above example.
> 
> In my original version the complete upload and the processing of the uploaded 
> file is automatic w/o user interaction. 
> The desktop app creates a zip file and posts that zip file to a Livecode 
> Server script which just handles the upload and then returns a success or 
> failure.
> According to the upload script my standalone then calls another script on the 
> server for further processing.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias

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Re: tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

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Hi Alex,

> Am 17.12.2023 um 12:22 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 
> On 16/12/2023 14:51, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I am trying to upload a (not so long) urlencoded text list
>> to my server, but get the tsNet error as in the subject.
>> 
>> In the form of:
>> ...
>> ## Remove spaces etc.
>> put clean_name(tSetlist) into tDateiname
>> put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
>> put "https://www.MYSERVER.de/setlists.lc?name=; & tDateiname & "=" & 
>> tInhalt into tUrl
>> ...
>> ...
>> 
>> The error comes from LC and NOT from the server, tAnwort = EMPTY!
>> 
>> The URL is definitively correct!
>> Is the urlencoded string in tInhalt too long for a parameter?
>> Or is a CR in that parameter not a good idea?
> 
> The CR in the parameter is a bad idea.
> 
> Instead of
> put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
> would you not be better doing
> put urlencode("whatever"  & fld "setlist") into tInhalt
> (I can't reproduce the error here, so I can't be sure if this fixes it or not 
> - but the CR in the url is definitely a bad idea).

YES, that did the trick, thank you very much!
Have a nice sunday!

> Alex.

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Re: tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

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Hi Matthias,

> Am 16.12.2023 um 23:29 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> You could try to post the data as a file  to the server. There is an array 
> $_files in Livecode server available, which handles the file uploads.

ah, sounds promising, thank you! :-)
I wanted to post the list directly from an LC field, but can surely store its 
content to a temp file.

But how is the syntax in my case?
...
put clean_name(tSetlist) into tDateiname 
## = filename on server

## put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
put "https://www.MYSERVER.de/setlists.lc?name=; & tDateiname & "=" & 
url("file:" & path to file") into tURL #?
## Nothing in the dictionary about this
...

> Regards,
> Matthias

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Re: tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

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Should I use a different format to pass the CR delimited list to the LC script?
If yes, which one?

> Am 16.12.2023 um 16:50 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Followup:
> I checked fo "illegal" character like @ ' etc., still no joy.
> This has been working two weeks ago!
> 
>> Am 16.12.2023 um 15:51 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I am trying to upload a (not so long) urlencoded text list
>> to my server, but get the tsNet error as in the subject.
>> 
>> In the form of:
>> ...
>> ## Remove spaces etc.
>> put clean_name(tSetlist) into tDateiname
>> put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
>> put "https://www.MYSERVER.de/setlists.lc?name=; & tDateiname & "=" & 
>> tInhalt into tUrl
>> ...
>> 
>> The LC server script:
>> -
>> >  put $_GET["name"] into tName
>>  put $_GET["setlist"] into tSetList
>>  put "OK" into tAntwort
>>  try
>>  put tSetList into url("file:" & tName)
>>  catch tProblem
>>  put tProblem into tAntwort
>>  end try
>>  put tAntwort
>> ?>
>> 
>> 
>> The error comes from LC and NOT from the server, tAnwort = EMPTY!
>> 
>> The URL is definitively correct!
>> Is the urlencoded string in tInhalt too long for a parameter?
>> Or is a CR in that parameter not a good idea?
>> 
>> Any hints very appreciated, thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
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>> 
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Re: tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

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Followup:
I checked fo "illegal" character like @ ' etc., still no joy.
This has been working two weeks ago!

> Am 16.12.2023 um 15:51 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I am trying to upload a (not so long) urlencoded text list
> to my server, but get the tsNet error as in the subject.
> 
> In the form of:
> ...
> ## Remove spaces etc.
> put clean_name(tSetlist) into tDateiname
> put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
> put "https://www.MYSERVER.de/setlists.lc?name=; & tDateiname & "=" & 
> tInhalt into tUrl
> ...
> 
> The LC server script:
> -
>put $_GET["name"] into tName
>   put $_GET["setlist"] into tSetList
>   put "OK" into tAntwort
>   try
>   put tSetList into url("file:" & tName)
>   catch tProblem
>   put tProblem into tAntwort
>   end try
>   put tAntwort
> ?>
> 
> 
> The error comes from LC and NOT from the server, tAnwort = EMPTY!
> 
> The URL is definitively correct!
> Is the urlencoded string in tInhalt too long for a parameter?
> Or is a CR in that parameter not a good idea?
> 
> Any hints very appreciated, thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
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tsneterr: (3) URL using bad/illegal format or missing URL

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I am trying to upload a (not so long) urlencoded text list
to my server, but get the tsNet error as in the subject.

In the form of:
...
## Remove spaces etc.
put clean_name(tSetlist) into tDateiname
put "whatever" & CR & urlencode(fld "setlist") into tInhalt
put "https://www.MYSERVER.de/setlists.lc?name=; & tDateiname & "=" & 
tInhalt into tUrl
...

The LC server script:
-



The error comes from LC and NOT from the server, tAnwort = EMPTY!

The URL is definitively correct!
Is the urlencoded string in tInhalt too long for a parameter?
Or is a CR in that parameter not a good idea?

Any hints very appreciated, thanks in advance.


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Enhancement request for "Circle Avatar" widget.

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

see subject, I just created an enhencement request for
a round border around (sic! :-) the image inside of 
the widget, that would really make sense.
Not a border of the surrounding rect.




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Re: greying out columns in a dataGrid

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Hi Craig,

always watch out for LINEBREAKS like here!

> Am 01.12.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Craig Newman via use-livecode 
> :
> on mouseUp
> 
## Needs to be ONE line, see parameters of -> DG_ColorColumn
> ...
> dispatch "DG_ColorColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "col 2", "211,211,211", 
> "srcCopy"
> ...
> Craig

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Re: Possible enhancement request

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Hi all,

I filed an enhancement request for this with some more examples:
<https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24429>

Best

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> Am 02.11.2023 um 17:01 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> +...
> 
> I can never keep all those variations straight.
> --
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On November 2, 2023 10:21:29 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> before I post an enhancment request to the "Qualtiy Center", I wanted to 
>> hear your opinions about this.
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be great if ALL widgets would receive and handle at least a 
>> mouseup (and mousedown) meassage?
>> I have always wondered why that is not the case.
>> 
>> This way scripting would be a lot easier for us and we do not have to 
>> remember the many different messages
>> the widgets have. Yes, they can be seen in the script editor on the left 
>> side, nevertheless... :-)
>> 
>> Examples:
>> PolyGrid -> cellclick
>> PolyList -> itemclick
>> Segmentedcontrol -> hilitechanged
>> Switch Button -> hilitechanged
>> Radial Slider -> valueChanged
>> Navigation Bar -> hilitechanged
>> Line Graph -> receives NO message at all?

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Update for new LC plug-in

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Hi friends,

I made an update for my plug-in.

The stack can now enter the pathnames (relative or absolute) of the
resulting icons to the "Standalone Applications Settings" of a selected 
stack for you.

If you are interested, take a look here:


Coming soon: Create an .ICNS file for macOS apps!


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New LC plug-in

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Hi friends,

I created a handy plug-in for LC. Not free, but just 1,- Euro.
It will create all neccessary iOS icons for LC from one 1024*1024 image.
Also works with PNG files with transparency.

If you are interested, take a look here:


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Re: Windows maximization on desktops

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Hi Paul,

> Am 07.11.2023 um 17:07 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Is there a message sent when a user click the maximize icon (macOS and 
> Windows) in the titlebar of a window?
> 
> "iconifyStack" is sent for minimization, and "unIconifyStack" is sent when a 
> minimizaed stack is expanded (from the Windows taskbar or Apple dock). 
> However, I can't seem to find an equivalent message for maximization?
> 
> Is there such a message. What messages (if any) are sent when a window is 
> maximized?

doesn't that make the "resizestack" message fire?


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Possible enhancement request

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

before I post an enhancment request to the "Qualtiy Center", I wanted to hear 
your opinions about this.

Wouldn't it be great if ALL widgets would receive and handle at least a mouseup 
(and mousedown) meassage?
I have always wondered why that is not the case.

This way scripting would be a lot easier for us and we do not have to remember 
the many different messages 
the widgets have. Yes, they can be seen in the script editor on the left side, 
nevertheless... :-)

Examples:
PolyGrid -> cellclick
PolyList -> itemclick
Segmentedcontrol -> hilitechanged
Switch Button -> hilitechanged
Radial Slider -> valueChanged
Navigation Bar -> hilitechanged
Line Graph -> receives NO message at all?

Maybe I forgot one or two things here, but I think you get the picture.
Thank you for your opinions.


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Re: PolyGrid: UNhilite a row? UPDATE

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Hi friends,

> I tried had:
> ...
> set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to "0"
> ...
> set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to 0
> ...
> set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to ""
> ...
> set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to EMPTY
> ...
> no dice!?

it turned out that ONLY this widget "index" is affected, 
all other PolyGrid widget behave as advertised!?


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Re: some mobilecontrolprops do not work on Android?

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Hi Jacque,

> Am 26.10.2023 um 21:14 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The backgroundColor and alpha settings might be a dictionary error.

OK, will report that.

> The opaque setting says it is available only for iOS.

Yes, my fault.

> I think the appearance of mobile players is set directly by the OS now, so 
> the color and transparency may not be available on Android.

That's what i guessed.

Thanks!

> On 10/26/23 9:56 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I (now successfully :) create a player for MP3 playback,
>> however some properties do not seem to work on Android,
>> although the Dictionary states otherwise!?
>> --
>>  mobilecontrolCreate "player", "mplayer"
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "visible", TRUE
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "rect", (the rect of grc "player")
>> ## Does nothing:
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "backgroundcolor", "213,143,116"
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "showController", TRUE
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "filename", tURL
>>  ## Whatever I set here, on Android I always get a black rect with
>> ## the player controls inside of it.
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "opaque", FALSE
>> ## Whatever value I enter here, nothing will change the apprearance
>>  mobileControlSet "mplayer", "alpha", 127
>> --
>> Before I report this, is this a dictionary bug or what?
>> Or is it just me again? :-D

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some mobilecontrolprops do not work on Android?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I (now successfully :) create a player for MP3 playback,
however some properties do not seem to work on Android,
although the Dictionary states otherwise!?
--
 mobilecontrolCreate "player", "mplayer"
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "visible", TRUE
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "rect", (the rect of grc "player")

## Does nothing:
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "backgroundcolor", "213,143,116"
   
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "showController", TRUE
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "filename", tURL
 
## Whatever I set here, on Android I always get a black rect with 
## the player controls inside of it.
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "opaque", FALSE

## Whatever value I enter here, nothing will change the apprearance
 mobileControlSet "mplayer", "alpha", 127
--
Before I report this, is this a dictionary bug or what?
Or is it just me again? :-D


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Re: ANDROID player won't play MP3 from server but locally?

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Hi Jacque,

wonderful, thank you very much!
Will test this and report back.

> Am 23.10.2023 um 21:45 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 10/22/23 7:34 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> I'm having problems to play a MP3 (5 MB) from my server. And yes, I waited 
>> up to a minute before I closed the app. Works fine when I play it locally.
> 
> 
> Below is the script I use for mobile players. It's old so things may be 
> different now, but if I remember right I had to check playerPropertyAvailable 
> for the duration to be sure the player had enough content to start playing.
> 
> on createMobileAudioPlayer pURL, pPlayerName
>  -- pURL = remote video or audio file
>  -- pPlayerName = name of player to create; if empty uses LC-assigned ID
>  if sPlayerID is in mobileControls() then mobileControlDelete sPlayerID -- 
> init
>  if pPlayerName = "" then
>mobileControlCreate "player"
>put the result into sPlayerId
>  else
>mobileControlCreate "player",pPlayerName
>put pPlayerName into sPlayerID
>  end if
>  mobileControlSet sPlayerId, "rect", getPlayerRect() -- can use a literal 
> rect instead
>  mobileControlSet sPlayerId, "showController", true
>  mobileControlSet sPlayerId, "filename", pURL
>  mobileControlSet sPlayerId, "visible", true
>  if pURL begins with "http" then
>mobileBusyIndicatorStart "square", "Loading..." -- add loading indicator 
> until duration is available
>  end if
> end createMobileAudioPlayer
> 
> on playerPropertyAvailable pProperty -- msg sent when enough content is loaded
>  if pProperty is "duration" then
>mobileBusyIndicatorStop -- Remove the "Loading..." indicator and start 
> playing
>mobileControlDo sPlayerId, "play"
>  end if
> end playerPropertyAvailable
> 
> on setMobileAudioPlayer pPlayerName,pState -- control the state of the mobile 
> player
>  -- pState = "pause", "play", or "stop"
>  if pPlayerName is not among the lines of mobileControls() then exit 
> setMobileAudioPlayer
>  mobileControlDo pPlayerName, pState
>  if pState = "stop" then
>mobileBusyIndicatorStop -- in case it's still showing
>mobileControlSet pPlayerName, "visible", false
>mobileControlDelete pPlayerName
>  end if
> end setMobileAudioPlayer
> 
> on playerFinished -- sent on mobile when audio is done
>  setMobileAudioPlayer "stop"
> end playerFinished
> 
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Re: PolyGrid: UNhilite a row?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 23.10.2023 um 19:15 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> you didn't mention the workaround that you used.

I wrote earlier in this thread:
...
click at the topleft of widget "index"
...
That does the trick for me and UNhilited the widget.

> i'm not sure what we're supposed to do with the png since we can't see the
> code.

>> Am 23.10.2023 um 18:51 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>> :
>> what event are you setting it in? ...

So gave him an impression of how my layout and polygrids look like and where 
I want to UNhilte the index.

I tried had:
...
set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to "0"
...
set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to 0
...
set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to ""
...
set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to EMPTY
...
no dice!?


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Re: PolyGrid: UNhilite a row?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 23.10.2023 um 19:09 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> unfortunately, all i can see is the png file.

yes, by intention! ;-)

> i can't download the stack to see what's going on.

Sorry, stack is not meant for public...


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Re: PolyGrid: UNhilite a row?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 23.10.2023 um 19:08 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 10/23/23 10:03, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> See here, I have a long list of PDF files and clicking the widget "index" 
>> will filter the PDF list with that char.
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ygmnzx3s7pvknpbycvi6z/index_polygrid.png?rlkey=c4as77jo96c0e2em3bde9tpk8=0>
> 
> Davy's On The Road Again!
> Score points for coolness.

thanks! :-)
Yeah, great song!

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Re: PolyGrid: UNhilite a row?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 23.10.2023 um 18:51 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> what event are you setting it in? i have had issues with the widgets not
> responding to appearance updates in preopencard, but i don't have a great
> recipe for it.

See here, I have a long list of PDF files and clicking the widget "index" will 
filter the PDF list with that char.
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ygmnzx3s7pvknpbycvi6z/index_polygrid.png?rlkey=c4as77jo96c0e2em3bde9tpk8=0>

Clicking button "A-Z" will the display all the files.
I need to UNhilite the index in that button.

No idea why it does not work? But the workaround does, so problem solved (for 
me and for now).

> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 12:50 PM Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
> 
>> interesting. it works for me. i use the numeric version (set the hilited
>> row of widget "pg" to 0
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 11:40 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi friends,
>>> 
>>> I cannot UN-hilite a row in a polygrid?!
>>> I tried:
>>> ...
>>> set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to "0"
>>> ...
>>> set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to 0
>>> ...
>>> set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to ""
>>> ...
>>> set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to EMPTY
>>> ...
>>> no dice!?
>>> 
>>> I use the latest version of the "Widget pack".
>>> Thanks in advance!

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PolyGrid: UNhilite a row?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I cannot UN-hilite a row in a polygrid?!
I tried:
...
set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to "0"
...
set the hilitedrow of widget "index" to 0
...
set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to ""
...
set the pgHilitedText of widget "index" to EMPTY
...
no dice!?

I use the latest version of the "Widget pack".
Thanks in advance!


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ANDROID player won't play MP3 from server but locally? 2

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

OK, found at least the DELETE problem... 8-)

command delete_player
 mobileControlDo "mplayer", "stop"
  ## mobileControlDelete "player", "mplayer"

 ## has to be:
 mobileControlDelete "mplayer"
end delete_player


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ANDROID player won't play MP3 from server but locally?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I'm having problems to play a MP3 (5 MB) from my server.
And yes, I waited up to a minute before I closed the app.
Works fine when I play it locally.

The device is connected via (not slow) W-Lan to the internet.

LC 9.6.10, macOS 12.7, Android 8.01

I created two buttons for create and delete and put this into the card script
-
command create_player

   ## This creates a black rect and nothing more?!
   ## I don't even see the ANSWER at the end of the script
   put "https://www.major-k.de/blueprint.mp3; into tURL

   ## Works immediately when using Safari browser on my Mac, 
   ## so the file is definitively there and URL correct!

   ## And yes, I added SSL & Encryption neccessary for -> httpS

   ## This works as advertised
   ## put specialfolderpath("resources") & "/blueprint.mp3" into tURL
   mobilecontrolCreate "player", "mplayer"
   mobileControlSet "mplayer", "visible", TRUE

   ## That grc is hidden:
   mobileControlSet "mplayer", "rect", (the rect of grc "player")
   mobileControlSet "mplayer", "backgroundcolor", "213,143,116"
   
   mobileControlSet "mplayer", "showController", TRUE
   mobileControlSet "mplayer", "filename", tURL
   
   if mobileControlGet("mplayer", "duration") = 0 then
  answer "Player is not initialised correctly"
   end if
   mobileControlDo "mplayer", "play"
end create_player

command delete_player
   mobileControlDo "mplayer", "stop"
   mobileControlDelete "player", "mplayer"
end delete_player

Most of the time I have to tap the "delete" button at least 5 times or more 
before the player finally disappears?
However the sound stops immediately at the first tap!?

What am I missing?
Thanks for any hint!


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Re: Mdiai Keys - volume / play/pause/next...

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi David,

> Am 21.10.2023 um 12:22 schrieb David Bovill via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thanks for noting that on Windows. Nothing is sent on MacOS - at least M2
> Macbook Air.

same here, macOS 12.7, MacMini Intel.
No rawkey sent...

> I filed a report - please vote -
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24375
> 
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 at 02:05, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> When I try on Windows 11 using Livecode 9.6.10 a rawKeyDown or rawkeyUp
>> message, the media keys on my HP laptop all return 0 as the keyCode, so
>> I think this is a bug of some sort that should be reported to the
>> Livecode Quality Center https://quality.livecode.com/
>> 
>> The keyDown or keyUp message does not get sent. the OS (Win11)
>> apparently intercepts and raises/lowers/mutes the volume or play/pause
>> as applicable.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/20/2023 11:08 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Is there a way to trap for these keyboard events.
>>> 
>>> Volume and Media Keys: In the HID standard, volume and media control keys
>>> often have specific usage IDs. For example:
>>>- 0xE9 is for volume up.
>>>- 0xEA is for volume down.
>>>- 0xE2 is for mute.
>>>- 0xCD is for play/pauseetc

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Re: Google new API 33 requirements

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 19.10.2023 um 11:42 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> *>Does that mean I have to select -> 13 (API 33) as the *
> *Minimum Android Version in the STAB?*
> 
> Nope, if you select "13 (API 33)" in the android standalone application
> settings it means your app will run only on devices that run Android 13+.

ah, thanks for confirmation.

> Regarding the warning/error you get from the Play Store - where (in which
> track) did you upload your new build? Was it in the Production track, or in
> any of the (Internal/External) Testing tracks?

My update is currently "in examination" in the Production track.
So I think that was more a general warning regarding my initial app.

Now I have to wait for the result of the examination.

> Could you post a screenshot of the exact warning/error you get?

See above...

> Also, I take it you used LiveCode 9.6.10 or 10.0.0 DP-6 to build the app,
> since these versions build against API 33 - is that correct?

Yes LC 9.6.10.

> Moreover, note that you do not need the "SDK Build tools v33" - you need
> "SDK Platform API 33". These are two different things. The version of the
> SDK Build tools that are installed must be 31.0.0. I believe you have the
> correct versions installed anyway, but I just mention it again to prevent
> confusion :)

Just checked what is checked in Android Studio:
SDK platform -> Android Tiramisu (Tiramisu) -> API Level 33
SDK Tools -> Android SDL Build-Tools 31.0.0
Check! :-)

Thank you for the quick answer!

> KInd regards,
> Panos

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Google new API 33 requirements

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I installed the build tools for API 33 and created an update
for my app.

In the STAB I selected : Minimum Android Version -> 8.0
and uploaded the app to Google.

Now I read in the Google Play Console this for my app:
...
API Level 26+
Target-SDK 33
...
However Google still shows me that my app is targeted to
Android Version 12 API 31!? 
Not sure if they mean the previous version I wanted to update?

Does that mean I have to select -> 13 (API 33) as the 
Minimum Android Version in the STAB?

If yes, is the app then still backwards-compatible with older 
devices/android versions? My tablet has Android version 8.0 installed.

Thanks for any hints!


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Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Bravo, Richard, you are so right, bravo!

> Am 13.10.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app 
> deployment is discussed:
> OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous.
> At the edge of, and sometimes exceeding, being prohibitively so.
> There's no point in making a standalone if you can't ship it.
> If pro devs with decades of experience struggle with this, newcomers will run 
> screaming.
> SIMPLIFYING DEPLOYMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
> Pardon the all-caps. I rarely use them. But this is important.
> Simplifying deployment is more important than "AI".
> Simplifying deployment is more important than "nocode".
> It is the single biggest pain point.
> And so it is the single biggest opportunity.
> Fulfill the promise of "Everyone can code": focus on simplifying deployment.
> Step 1: Acquire Matthias' great tool.
> Step 2: Enhance it for current requirements across platforms.
> Step 3: Look for every opportunity to further simplify the process, and take 
> it, at least one more simplification with each new build.
> This is important. It really is.
> --
> And no, web export will not magically save things.  Even when that becomes 
> truly production-ready, it's only for web apps.  Not everything needs to be a 
> web app.
> There are a hundred ways to make web apps.
> There are few ways to make cross-platform native apps.
> And almost none that rival what LC can do on the desktop.
> Play into strengths.  Make native deployment the best it can be.
> When that's done, only then resume work on more peripheral features.
> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems

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Re: Android: Myapp stopped

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jaqcue,

> Am 13.10.2023 um 18:24 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Yes, it seems like the bug was fixed in later versions.

ah, thank you, I guessed.
So bad news for our guitarplayer/singer...

> There are some workarounds in the stackoverflow link using terminal but I 
> didn't understand them.

Same here, so I wouldn't even try this! :-D

> --
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> On October 13, 2023 10:51:26 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jacque,
>> 
>>> Am 13.10.2023 um 17:41 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I looked it up. It's a Samsung bug:
>>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37413667/run-as-could-not-set-capabilities-operation-not-permitted/47004505#47004505>
>>> If you Google "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted " you'll 
>>> see lots of results.
>> 
>> thank you for this valuable info!
>> Too bad...
>> 
>> So it means the Samsung tablets with earlier versions of Android/API have 
>> this problem?
>> Our drummer and me also have Samsung tablets, but with Android 8.x resp 
>> Android 11.

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Re: Android: Myapp stopped

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

> Am 13.10.2023 um 17:41 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I looked it up. It's a Samsung bug:
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37413667/run-as-could-not-set-capabilities-operation-not-permitted/47004505#47004505>
> If you Google "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted " you'll 
> see lots of results.

thank you for this valuable info!
Too bad...

So it means the Samsung tablets with earlier versions of Android/API have this 
problem?
Our drummer and me also have Samsung tablets, but with Android 8.x resp Android 
11.

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> On October 13, 2023 3:49:32 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jacque,
>> 
>>> Am 12.10.2023 um 22:37 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> What minimum Android version is set in Standalone Settings? Does it include 
>>> Android 6?
>> 
>> it is set to 5, so yes, it should include version 6.
>> 
>>> On 10/12/23 8:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>> I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers
>>>> and succeeded on all but one!?
>>>> Info:
>>>> Samsung Galaxy Tab S
>>>> Android 6.0.1, API 23
>>>> After installation from LC (Test) I tap on the icon and get the alert:
>>>> -> Leadsheeter stopped (angehalten)
>>>> immediately, no more info.
>>>> I already emptied cache and data and whatnot and even restarted
>>>> the device a couple of times, no dice!?
>>>> The only info I could get after starting Android Studio was in the
>>>> "Device File Explorer" panel for the device which reads:
>>>> 
>>>> data -> app -> com.major-k.de.leadsheeter-1
>>>> run-as: Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted
>>>> 

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Re: Android: Myapp stopped

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

> Am 12.10.2023 um 22:37 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What minimum Android version is set in Standalone Settings? Does it include 
> Android 6?

it is set to 5, so yes, it should include version 6.

> On 10/12/23 8:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers
>> and succeeded on all but one!?
>> Info:
>> Samsung Galaxy Tab S
>> Android 6.0.1, API 23
>> After installation from LC (Test) I tap on the icon and get the alert:
>> -> Leadsheeter stopped (angehalten)
>> immediately, no more info.
>> I already emptied cache and data and whatnot and even restarted
>> the device a couple of times, no dice!?
>> The only info I could get after starting Android Studio was in the
>> "Device File Explorer" panel for the device which reads:
>> 
>> data -> app -> com.major-k.de.leadsheeter-1
>> run-as: Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted
>> 
>> API too old? Anything else I can check in Android Studio?
>> Any hints very welcome!
>> Thanks a lot in advance.
>> Best

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Re: Windows Standalone strands windows tasks

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

> Am 12.10.2023 um 17:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I have a standalone that uses a splash stack, which upon launch displays a 
> startup graphic, then hides itself and opens the mainstack of my project. On 
> MacOS when I "quit" the entire application quits. On Windows however the 
> splash stack (which is the stack the standalone is built from) keeps running, 
> and if I re-launch the standalone it creates a second instance of the app in 
> memory.
> 
> How do I get the standalone to quit when I close the mainstack in Windows?

add this to the script your mainstack:
-
on closestack
  close stack "your splash stack here"
  ## do more closestack stuff
end closestack
-
That should do the trick.

Hint:
To avoid this "Windows feature:
>> if I re-launch the standalone it creates a second instance of the app in 
>> memory.
add a dummy handler to your standalone/splash stack script:
-
on relaunch
   ## NADA!
end relaunch
-

> Bob S

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Re: Android: Myapp stopped

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

> Am 12.10.2023 um 15:43 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hm,
> just a shot in the dark, did you enable the Development mode on the tablets?

sure! 

A propos dark:
At midnight on a graveyard I tapped SEVEN times on the buildnumber, 
that should have done the trick, right! :-D

>> Am 12.10.2023 um 15:35 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers
>> and succeeded on all but one!?
>> 
>> Info: 
>> Samsung Galaxy Tab S
>> Android 6.0.1, API 23
>> 
>> After installation from LC (Test) I tap on the icon and get the alert:
>> -> Leadsheeter stopped (angehalten) 
>> immediately, no more info.
>> 
>> I already emptied cache and data and whatnot and even restarted 
>> the device a couple of times, no dice!?
>> 
>> The only info I could get after starting Android Studio was in the
>> "Device File Explorer" panel for the device which reads:
>> 
>> data -> app -> com.major-k.de.leadsheeter-1
>> run-as: Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted
>> 
>> API too old? Anything else I can check in Android Studio?
>> 
>> Any hints very welcome!

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Android: Myapp stopped

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers
and succeeded on all but one!?

Info: 
Samsung Galaxy Tab S
Android 6.0.1, API 23

After installation from LC (Test) I tap on the icon and get the alert:
-> Leadsheeter stopped (angehalten) 
immediately, no more info.

I already emptied cache and data and whatnot and even restarted 
the device a couple of times, no dice!?

The only info I could get after starting Android Studio was in the
"Device File Explorer" panel for the device which reads:

data -> app -> com.major-k.de.leadsheeter-1
run-as: Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted

API too old? Anything else I can check in Android Studio?

Any hints very welcome!

Thanks a lot in advance.


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Re: Android Standalone buiulding error

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 28.09.2023 um 19:57 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Yes you do need android API 33, but keep the version of the android build
> tools to 31.0.0. These are different things.

ah, sorry, my fault, I had no idea! 8-)

> You can install/uninstall
> various versions of the build tools if you open the second tab of the sdk
> manager in android studio.

Thank you, will do.

> Cheers,
> Panos
> 
> Ps: afk = away from keyboard :)

AHA, efcharistó!

> On Thu, 28 Sept 2023, 20:51 Klaus major-k via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Panos,
>> 
>>> Am 28.09.2023 um 19:40 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hello Klaus,
>>> 
>>> I am afk
>> 
>> what does that stand for? 8-)
>> 
>>> now, but there is a bug report about it. The workaround is to make
>>> sure you have installed only v31.0.0 of the android *build tools*.
>> Anything
>>> above v31 will cause this error.
>> 
>> But LC claimed this for version 9.6.10 (from the LC blog):
>> --
>> LiveCode 9.6.10 Stable Released
>> ...
>> FEATURES ADDED:
>> Android API 33 update
>> The Android engine is now built using version 33 of the Android API, a
>> requirement for new apps submitted to the Google Play Store. Note you’ll
>> have to install “Android API 33” using the SDK Manager in Android Studio.
>> -
>> And I am using LC 9.6.10!
>> I installed API 33 for this reason. What gives? :-(
>> 
>> And we MUST use API 33 for new apps or updates of older app.
>> Or did I misunderstand this Google requirement?

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Re: Android Standalone buiulding error

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 28.09.2023 um 19:40 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> I am afk

what does that stand for? 8-)

> now, but there is a bug report about it. The workaround is to make
> sure you have installed only v31.0.0 of the android *build tools*. Anything
> above v31 will cause this error.

But LC claimed this for version 9.6.10 (from the LC blog):
--
LiveCode 9.6.10 Stable Released
...
FEATURES ADDED:
Android API 33 update
The Android engine is now built using version 33 of the Android API, a 
requirement for new apps submitted to the Google Play Store. Note you’ll have 
to install “Android API 33” using the SDK Manager in Android Studio.
-
And I am using LC 9.6.10!
I installed API 33 for this reason. What gives? :-(

And we MUST use API 33 for new apps or updates of older app.
Or did I misunderstand this Google requirement?

> Cheers,
> Panos
> 
> On Thu, 28 Sept 2023, 18:35 Klaus major-k via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I created an Android runtime from this stack in April without any problem.
>> Now I changes some minor cosmetic issues and got this error when "Save as
>> standalone..."
>> 
>> Only thing I can remember is that I added API 33 in Android Studio.
>> 
>> macOS 12.7, LC 9.6.10. Android Studio 2021.3
>> 
>> There was an error while saving the standalone application
>> Could not encode class bundle - error:
>> Methods with invalid locals information
>> void androidx.orint.Printre persprintUriAdapters
>> I.onrosttxecutelandroid.araonics.Bitman)
>> Information in locals-table is invalid with respect to the stack map
>> table. Local refers to non-present stack map type for register: 2 with
>> constraint OBJECT
>> Info in
>> 
>> /private/var/tolders/8v/k8b7ir8503db3h60tdt9pbwa/T/Temporarvltems/tmp.6277.nK1natOk/22/classes.iar:androidx/viewoaaer/widaet/PagerTitleStrip.class
>> Methods with invalld locals intormation
>> 
>> voidandroidx.viewpager.widget.PagerTitleStrip.updateTextPositions(int.float,boolean"
>> Intormation in locals-table is invalid with respect to the stack map
>> table. Local refers to non-present stack map type for register: 37 with
>> constraint INT
>> --

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Android Standalone buiulding error

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I created an Android runtime from this stack in April without any problem.
Now I changes some minor cosmetic issues and got this error when "Save as 
standalone..."

Only thing I can remember is that I added API 33 in Android Studio.

macOS 12.7, LC 9.6.10. Android Studio 2021.3

There was an error while saving the standalone application
Could not encode class bundle - error:
Methods with invalid locals information
void androidx.orint.Printre persprintUriAdapters 
I.onrosttxecutelandroid.araonics.Bitman)
Information in locals-table is invalid with respect to the stack map table. 
Local refers to non-present stack map type for register: 2 with constraint 
OBJECT
Info in
/private/var/tolders/8v/k8b7ir8503db3h60tdt9pbwa/T/Temporarvltems/tmp.6277.nK1natOk/22/classes.iar:androidx/viewoaaer/widaet/PagerTitleStrip.class
Methods with invalld locals intormation
voidandroidx.viewpager.widget.PagerTitleStrip.updateTextPositions(int.float,boolean"
Intormation in locals-table is invalid with respect to the stack map table. 
Local refers to non-present stack map type for register: 37 with constraint INT
--
Any idea what is going wrong here?
Thank you!


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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Ralph,

> Am 15.09.2023 um 22:10 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Does accordion count?

it does!
Since Al Yankowic...

Just kiddin'. :-D

> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of William Prothero via use-livecode
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2023 2:56 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: William Prothero
> Subject: Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)
> 
> Mark and Klaus,
> Wow, folks I didn't know were musicians!  
> I use iReal Pro too. It's great for practice. And, easily transposes. But as 
> a keyboard player, I use the notes of the tune to shape my solos. iReal Pro 
> only has the chords. It's still useful, though.
> 
> Best,
> Bill

Best

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

> Am 15.09.2023 um 20:56 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Mark and Klaus,
> Wow, folks I didn't know were musicians!  

take a look at my bass page, see signature.
Lots of audio and video files. 
Don't worry, my site is in german and english.  
It is a bit outdated, but you'll get the picture. ;-)

> I use iReal Pro too. It's great for practice. And, easily transposes. But as 
> a keyboard player, I use the notes of the tune to shape my solos. iReal Pro 
> only has the chords. It's still useful, though.

Yep!

> Best,
> Bill

Best

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 15.09.2023 um 20:26 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> On 9/15/23 10:13, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> I also own "iReal Pro" for Mac<https://www.irealpro.com> which can output 
>> PDF if I need one
>> and I also still own a printed version of the "Real Book I". :-)
> The only reason I have a 10" tablet is to run iRealPro on it.
> Hard to imagine doing without it.

good boy! :-)

> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

> Am 15.09.2023 um 19:03 schrieb William Prothero via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus,
> Re sheet music display, I also display sheet music, mostly jazz. There's an 
> app, very low cost, named igigbook that displays pdfs. If you're into jazz, 
> you can get lots of real book music and there is even an addon for changing 
> the key for some realbook songs.
> 
> The trouble is, iGigbook is optimized for the Mac, so I'm not sure it would 
> work for you. So, excuse me if my comment is irrelevant to your goal.

thank you for the hint. 
There is also an Android app of iGigbook!

However, why buy something when you can do it by yourself, much more fun.
My app does exactly (sic!) what I need.

I also own "iReal Pro" for Mac which can output PDF 
if I need one
and I also still own a printed version of the "Real Book I". :-)

> Have fun,

I definitively do! :-)

> Bill
> William A. Prothero, PhD
> Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science
> University of California, Santa Barbara

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 15.09.2023 um 12:14 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 2023-09-14 18:49, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> But I'm using a Mac and it looks like that tool is not available here in the 
>> SDK tools folder.
>> Maybe available somewhere in "Android Studio".
>> And my problem NEVER happened when I'm at home, only during band rehearsals 
>> and gigs! :-D
> So this is perhaps the most useful observation...

:-)

> This could suggest there is a either a difference in usage, or environment 
> between the two places. e.g.
>  - is the app used more / for longer at gigs compared to home?

Yes.

>  - how is the tablet powered at home vs at gigs?

Via its internal rechargable battery, will recharge it overnight with no 
connection to my Mac.

>  - how does the tablet connect to the internet at home vs at gigs? (even if 
> the app does not use the internet, lots of background stuff on Android *does*)

At home via W-Lan, at gigs no internet connection (no SIM card or something!)

>  - when the problem happens is there anything specific you can think of in 
> common with what you were doing / the app was doing / the device was doing 
> just before? (e.g. does it happen just after the device has gone to sleep).

No, sometimes I get the black screen immediately when I start the tablet at a 
gig or rehearsal, sometimes after several quit/start of the app.

> The fact it is 'hanging' suggests there is something (on startup?) which is 
> failing and causing an infinite loop.

Nothing remarkable here, I only fill the two polygrids (< 10 entries each) on 
the first card on preopenstack.

> Is there anything in the startup code for the app which waits for something 
> to happen? e.g. an network request, something to initialize etc.?

No, nada, just what I wrote above.

> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> P.S. If you send your app's source to supp...@livecode.com with a rough 
> outline of where to look for startup code etc. then Panos and I can take a 
> quick look and see if we can see anything which may be causing your issue.

Great, thanks, will remove all unneccessary files and will send it with some 
instructions.

> -- 
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> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 14.09.2023 um 20:03 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> He's not crashing, it's a hang. I can't remember if logcat shows those.
> My guess is that it's a memory problem since he's running a very old version 
> of Android with not much RAM,

it is a Galaxy Tab A (2016) with 2 GB RAM and 32 GB hd (or SSD?) running 
Android 8.1.
So the LC Android engine is a bit RAM "hungry"? Or are the new widgets like 
PolyGrid? 

Strange, I have another LC app installed on my Samsung Galaxy J7 (2016) cell 
phone 
with 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB HD which never ever crashed or hung in the last year?

> and restarting the app may force retained apps to release RAM. But a log 
> can't hurt at any rate.
> 
> Klaus, remove all unnecessary widgets from your home screen(s). Also go 
> through all the apps in settings and disable or delete any you don't use. 
> Android will not allow you to do that for required apps so if the buttons are 
> enabled then it's safe. Most devices come with a lot of bloatware that runs 
> in the background and uses memory. Widgets are especially bad at that.

I already disabled and deleted everything that could be disabled and deleted, 
since I 
exclusivley (sic!) use the tablet to display sheet music. Therefore I really 
wonder 
why this does not happen more often?

Will try to check the "logcat", when this will happen the next time.
Thanks for all hints so far.

> --
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On September 14, 2023 12:21:15 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Get a logcat after a crash and see if Panos can glean anything useful from
>> it. It helped me once identifying and getting a crash fix implemented.

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Ralph,

> Am 14.09.2023 um 19:43 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus,
> 
> You need to get it using a command prompt via USB. Connect device. Open
> command prompt. In the android SDK platform-tools folder... Steps:
> 
> 1) Clear the log
> 2) Get you app to crash
> 3) Get a log
> 
> ADB commands below:
> 
> ADB logcat -c
> Now run your app till crash
> ADB logcat
> 
> The log can be piped to a file.
> In windows it's 
> ADB logcat > somefile.txt
> The logcat will keep running so on windows a ctrl C will terminate.

OK, thank you.

But I'm using a Mac and it looks like that tool is not available here in the 
SDK tools folder.
Maybe available somewhere in "Android Studio".

And my problem NEVER happened when I'm at home, only during band rehearsals and 
gigs! :-D

> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Re: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Ralph,

> Am 14.09.2023 um 19:20 schrieb Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus,
> 
> Get a logcat after a crash

and where can I possibly find one on my tablet?

> and see if Panos can glean anything useful from
> it. It helped me once identifying and getting a crash fix implemented.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 7:01 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Klaus major-k
> Subject: Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> yesterday it* happened again!
> 
> *Around one of twenty times I start my app on my Samsung tablet, I get a
> black screen.
> 
> I started the tablet, opened my app -> OK quit the app and started again ->
> OK quit the app and started again -> OK quit the app and attached my USB
> footswitch started the app -> BLACK SCREEN That also happens without the
> attached footswitch
> 
> Then I took Jacque's advice and waited a bit and after about
> 30 seconds I got the "Application not responding" alter with two options:
> -> Close app
> -> Wait
> 
> So I clicked "Quit" and could start the app anew without any problem!
> 
> I am really wondering why this happens?!
> 
> On the first card there are just two polygrids with < 10 entries each,
> loaded "on openstack" on the fly from the folders and files in the resources
> folder See screenshot here: 
> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vsm7c9nhankru3xqhil6p/leadsheeter_card_1.png
> ?rlkey=09o2ljter5hramdhv3gm5x786=0>
> (Ordner = folders)
> NO PDF is loaded yet!
> NO resizestack message, this is just for me and my tablet.
> NO "accelerated rendering" set for the stack
> 
> Any hints very welcome, not sure if I should open a bug report, since this
> only happens from time to time, about 1 of twenty app starts.
> 
> macOS 12.6.9, LC 9.6.10, Android 8.1, Android API 33

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Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

yesterday it* happened again!

*Around one of twenty times I start my app on my Samsung tablet, 
I get a black screen.

I started the tablet, opened my app -> OK
quit the app and started again -> OK
quit the app and started again -> OK
quit the app and attached my USB footswitch
started the app -> BLACK SCREEN
That also happens without the attached footswitch

Then I took Jacque's advice and waited a bit and after about 
30 seconds I got the "Application not responding" alter with 
two options:
-> Close app
-> Wait

So I clicked "Quit" and could start the app anew without any problem!

I am really wondering why this happens?!

On the first card there are just two polygrids with < 10 entries each,
loaded "on openstack" on the fly from the folders and files in the resources 
folder
See screenshot here: 

(Ordner = folders)
NO PDF is loaded yet!
NO resizestack message, this is just for me and my tablet.
NO "accelerated rendering" set for the stack

Any hints very welcome, not sure if I should open a bug report, since this
only happens from time to time, about 1 of twenty app starts.

macOS 12.6.9, LC 9.6.10, Android 8.1, Android API 33



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Android ANR (App not responding | Jacque was right :-)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

yesterday it* happened again!

*Around one of twenty times I start my app on my Samsung tablet, 
I get a black screen.

I started the tablet, opened my app -> OK
quit the app and started again -> OK
quit the app and started again -> OK
quit the app and attached my USB footswitch
started the app -> BLACK SCREEN
That also happens without the attached footswitch

Then I took Jacque's advice and waited a bit and after about 
30 seconds I got the "Application not responding" alter with 
two options:
-> Close app
-> Wait

So I clicked "Quit" and could start the app anew without any problem!

I am really wondering why this happens?!

On the first card there are just two polygrids with < 10 entries each,
loaded "on openstack" on the fly from the folders and files in the resources 
folder
See screenshot here: 

(Ordner = folders)
NO PDF is loaded yet!
NO resizestack message, this is just for me and my tablet.
NO "accelerated rendering" set for the stack

Any hints very welcome, not sure if I should open a bug report, since this
only happens from time to time, about 1 of twenty app starts.

macOS 12.6.9, LC 9.6.10, Android 8.1, Android API 33



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Re: Polygrid columns not fully clearing when pgColumns is set

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Hi Paul,

> Am 24.08.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Aha, I was setting pgColumns to the fewer columns and THEN pgData to the 
> smaller data set to match the columns
> You need to clear the pgData (set to empty) first, then set the columns, then 
> set the new pgData.
> Perhaps this is a documentation bug?

I had success by setting the dgColumns to EMPTY first and later to the new 
"fewer" columns:
## Button "Fewer Columns"
on mouseUp pMouseButton
  local tColA, tDataA
  local tSum
  lock screen

  ## !!
  set the pgColumns of widget "myTable" to EMPTY
 ## !!

  put "rowname" into tColA[1]["name"]
...

> On 8/24/2023 2:26 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi to any polygrid developers out there,
>> 
>> Please see bug https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24315
>> 
>> I have run into an issue with the latest polygrid (as of this post) where if 
>> you set pgColumns to a new array that reduces the number of columns in the 
>> grid, some old columns are not cleared, but instead are set to defaults (ie. 
>> the names revert to col5, col6, etc. instead of being completely removed
>> 
>> Any thoughts to a work-around?

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Re: OT - a new release of WinSignHelper for macOS

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Hi Randy,

> Am 24.08.2023 um 15:49 schrieb Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Excellent! Thank you, Klaus.

my pleasure!

> Does the current version of windows look the same as your screen shots?

Sorry, no idea, my last Win version is 10, as shown in the pics.

> take care,
> randy
> 
> Randy Hengst
> classroomFocusedSoftware.com
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> This all very interesting. I haven’t built for windows in about 10 years. 
>>> So, I’ve never messed with signing certificates.
>>> I’ve downloaded and played with Matthias’ CodeSigning Tool… seems very 
>>> straight forward. But, I’m trying to build an app only for a friend to use 
>>> for free and, so, I’m not too keen on buying a certificate for $100+ every 
>>> year.
>>> Is there a way for folks to open an app on windows that is not signed? 
>>> …like you can do on a Mac after the scary alert…
>> I once set up a help page for exactly this issue:
>> 
>> Scroll down for the Windows stuff...
>> Hope that helps!

Best

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Re: OT - a new release of WinSignHelper for macOS

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Randy,

> Am 24.08.2023 um 15:28 schrieb Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This all very interesting. I haven’t built for windows in about 10 years. So, 
> I’ve never messed with signing certificates.
> I’ve downloaded and played with Matthias’ CodeSigning Tool… seems very 
> straight forward. But, I’m trying to build an app only for a friend to use 
> for free and, so, I’m not too keen on buying a certificate for $100+ every 
> year.
> Is there a way for folks to open an app on windows that is not signed? …like 
> you can do on a Mac after the scary alert…

I once set up a help page for exactly this issue:


Scroll down for the Windows stuff...
Hope that helps!

> take care,
> randy

Best

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Re: Android black screen again...

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

you wrote:

> I'm just guessing, but memory may be too low to allow the browser widget to 
> work,

however I am not using the browser widget (does not display PDFs on Andoid!)
but the PDF widget!

> Am 11.08.2023 um 22:30 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 8/11/23 3:12 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> The problem is that this is not reproducable, it happens out of a sudden if 
>> it happens.
>> Even the hardware BACKKEY does not work in that situation, only the HOMEKEY 
>> so I can
>> at least quit the app.
> 
> That's called an ANR ("Application Not Responding"). Something in the app is 
> causing a hang. If you wait long enough, Android should put up a dialog 
> asking if you want to wait or close the app. If you choose to wait, sometimes 
> it comes back. However, the wait can be 10-20 seconds or more so people often 
> just quit before the dialog appears.

OK, if I have the time I will wait next time and see what happens.

> The problem here is figuring out what causes it. Is it always the same PDF 
> file? Or maybe it happens after opening a certain number of files, or the 
> length of a file, or the cumulative length of several files, or...? If it 
> isn't reproducible, it's very difficult to find the cause.

It happen when I start the app, at that point there is no PDF loaded, just the 
"start card"
with a couple of poly grids.

It also happened in the same "session", means no switching the device off and 
on again.
I started the device then opened my app, no problems.
Then I quit my app and started again, BOOM, black screen.

> If it happens to you at home some day, see if waiting 15 seconds or more puts 
> up that dialog. That would confirm it's an ANR.

Yes, will do, thanks for the hint!

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Re: Android black screen again...

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

> Am 10.08.2023 um 22:34 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I looked up the Samsung Tab A and it says it runs Android 9, upgradable to 
> 11. There are multiple RAM options. Is this the one you have? 
> <https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_a_10_1_(2019)-9582.php>
> 
> I'm just guessing, but memory may be too low to allow the browser widget to 
> work, since it does work after a reboot and the problem only happens 
> occasionally. But Android 5 is almost 10 years old and I'd be surprised if 
> that is what your tablet is running. Have you checked for an update? You have 
> much more control of memory usage with a newer OS.

sorry, my fault, I obviously have an older version of the tablet and it does in 
fact run Android 8.1.
However it is not upgradable.

> In any case, you can keep memory usage lower if you delete or disable all 
> apps and processes you don't need. You can do that in Settings/Apps. Samsung 
> installs a lot of bloatware and if you don't use those things, turn them off 
> or remove them. You can't always uninstall these but you can disable some of 
> them. Also uninstall any extra apps you don't use. I have a newer Samsung 
> tablet and I disabled or deleted almost half the software it shipped with. 
> Many of these run in the background and use memory. Launcher widgets also run 
> constantly so remove the ones you don't need from your launch screens.

I already did that, snice I only need the device for displaying PDF leadsheets.
But if it would be a memory issue, then it would happen more often, I think.

The problem is that this is not reproducable, it happens out of a sudden if it 
happens.
Even the hardware BACKKEY does not work in that situation, only the HOMEKEY so 
I can 
at least quit the app.

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> On August 10, 2023 5:03:24 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> maybe you remember my problem, that my app
>> turns into a black screen occacionally.
>> 
>> This has happened again about four or five times since
>> I reported it here.
>> 
>> This never happens at home, only when I am at a band
>> rehearsal, but never at a gig (fingers crossed).
>> 
>> Restarting the dveice definitively cures this, thank you Panos,
>> but sometimes, especially at a gig, I do not have the time to
>> do so. :-/
>> 
>> So any further hints highly appreciated!
>> 
>> macOS 12.6.8, LC 9.6.9, android 5.1 on a SAMSUNG TAB A tablet.
>> I'm mainly using the PDF widget if that matters...

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Android black screen again...

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

maybe you remember my problem, that my app
turns into a black screen occacionally.

This has happened again about four or five times since 
I reported it here.

This never happens at home, only when I am at a band 
rehearsal, but never at a gig (fingers crossed).

Restarting the dveice definitively cures this, thank you Panos,
but sometimes, especially at a gig, I do not have the time to 
do so. :-/

So any further hints highly appreciated!

macOS 12.6.8, LC 9.6.9, android 5.1 on a SAMSUNG TAB A tablet.
I'm mainly using the PDF widget if that matters...


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Re: [[ ANN ]] New Enhancements Bundle v1.0.32 available

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 04.08.2023 um 16:12 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> @Mark
> There is a file "changelog.txt" in the bundle that describes all the
> bugfixes and new features that are added per widget.
> 
> @Klaus
> Heh, I think the .zip file has this version (1_0_0) because it allows us to
> update it more easily. If you unzip it, it should show the actual version:
> "livecode_enhancements-1_0_32".

OK, get it, they thou shalt be forgiven! :-D

> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 17:06, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Panos,
>> 
>>> Am 04.08.2023 um 15:47 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> Just to let you know that there is an update of the enhancements bundle
>>> available in your account area.
>>> Latest update 1.0.32: 4 August 2023
>>> This update includes some bugfixes. I'll update BugZilla later tonight.
>> 
>> thanks!
>> 
>> it might be agood idea to show the VERSION number in the filename,
>> which still reads: livecode_enhancements-1_0_0.zip
>> 
>>> Note that when installing this new version using the stack
>>> "WidgetPackInstaller.livecode" that is included in the bundle, you might
>>> need to restart the LC IDE once (or twice) - you will get a dialog asking
>>> you to do so.
>> 
>> And it also shows the beloved "A stack with that name is already in
>> memory..."
>> (not funny!) however without the evil circle of death after clicking
>> "Purge". 8-)

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Re: [[ ANN ]] New Enhancements Bundle v1.0.32 available

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 04.08.2023 um 15:47 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Just to let you know that there is an update of the enhancements bundle
> available in your account area.
> Latest update 1.0.32: 4 August 2023
> This update includes some bugfixes. I'll update BugZilla later tonight.

thanks!

it might be agood idea to show the VERSION number in the filename, 
which still reads: livecode_enhancements-1_0_0.zip

> Note that when installing this new version using the stack
> "WidgetPackInstaller.livecode" that is included in the bundle, you might
> need to restart the LC IDE once (or twice) - you will get a dialog asking
> you to do so.

And it also shows the beloved "A stack with that name is already in memory..." 
(not funny!) however without the evil circle of death after clicking "Purge". 
8-)

> Kind regards,
> Panos

Best

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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 15:02 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> heh the name of the command should have been "initAR"

we got the picture anyway! :-D

> Cheers,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 16:01, panagiotis m  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I had seen this issue on Android, not on iOS. And the workaround was to
>> use a "send in time" command to set the acceleratedRendering to true, for
>> example:
>> 
>> on preOpenStack
>>   send initAE to me in 300 millisec
>> end preOpenStack
>> 
>> command initAE
>>   set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to true
>> end initAE
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 14:16 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting this
> property on preopenstack.
> 
> Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
> random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
> (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).

OK, I only switched the device off and on again, which is probably NOT a 
restart.
Will keep this in mind for the next time, which hopefully will never happen. 8-)

Thank you!

> Cheers,
> Panos

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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 14:06 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Are you setting the acceleratedRendering to true on startup?

no, should I? 8-)
However this came out of a sudden after using my (same) app many times before...

> Kind regards,
> Panos
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 12:15 Mark Smith via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past
>> year than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at these
>> times if the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a
>> black screen. If I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals the
>> appropriate screen image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps solution
>> does not work I’ve had to shut the app down (remove from memory) and then
>> restart it again. This always fixes the problem (if the tapping doesn’t).
>> It’s had me wondering where in the process it “hangs” since tapping the
>> screen suggests it is still “alive" but just stuck somewhere and not
>> displaying the appropriate screen image. On iOS I believe when you suspend
>> an app (put it into the background) it just “maintains” the current screen
>> image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up to now I’ve not spend any
>> time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be able to trace the problem
>> back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please let me know if you come
>> up with any suggestions.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
>>> Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and
>>> only got a black screen!?
>>> 
>>> Everything else on the device worked without problems.
>>> De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
>>> 
>>> Has someone also experienced something like this?
>>> 
>>> Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.

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Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and 
only got a black screen!?

Everything else on the device worked without problems.
De- and re-installing the app fixed it.

Has someone also experienced something like this?

Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.


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Re: Android and USB footswitch

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Am 20.07.2023 um 18:14 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>> Am 20.07.2023 um 15:58 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>> Am 18.07.2023 um 21:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> ...
>>>> We really need LC to give us access to the public documents folder.
>>> The "Downloads" or "Documents" folder would be a good start, otherwise we 
>>> cannot create apps
>>> where the user needs to add more files.
>> FYI: there is a feature request for this, please add a comment if you like 
>> to have this in the next version:
>> <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23526>
>> I see that other apps offer something like this, so it IS in fact possible 
>> somehow... 8-)
> 
> someone from a german bass player forum sent me an screenshot of the app 
> "MobileSheets":
> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mobilesheets=apps>
> 
> This appears after clicking the PLUS sign (or "Import" button?) in that app, 
> which looks like a "regular" "Open..." dialog:
> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0pzopitzw7agqqr8rtghr/android_import_gui.png?rlkey=3ts5l42p85t7djcuv2ubawlzm=0>

Received another screenshot, this is from the app "Songbook Pro":
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/arjl0jrpiaxcftctq3amf/songbook_pro.png?rlkey=n94ozyvk2bugvaw80sw68pej1=0>

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Re: Android and USB footswitch

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 20.07.2023 um 15:58 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> Hi all,
> 
>> Am 18.07.2023 um 21:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> ...
>>> We really need LC to give us access to the public documents folder.
>> The "Downloads" or "Documents" folder would be a good start, otherwise we 
>> cannot create apps
>> where the user needs to add more files.
> FYI: there is a feature request for this, please add a comment if you like to 
> have this in the next version:
> <https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23526>
> I see that other apps offer something like this, so it IS in fact possible 
> somehow... 8-)

someone from a german bass player forum sent me an screenshot of the app 
"MobileSheets":
<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mobilesheets=apps>

This appears after clicking the PLUS sign (or "Import" button?) in that app, 
which looks like a "regular" "Open..." dialog:
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0pzopitzw7agqqr8rtghr/android_import_gui.png?rlkey=3ts5l42p85t7djcuv2ubawlzm=0>

So I dare to naively ask: Why can't LC offer something like this? 8-)


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Re: Android and USB footswitch

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 18.07.2023 um 21:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> ...
>> We really need LC to give us access to the public documents folder.
> The "Downloads" or "Documents" folder would be a good start, otherwise we 
> cannot create apps
> where the user needs to add more files.

FYI: there is a feature request for this, please add a comment if you like to 
have this in the next version:
<https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23526>

I see that other apps offer something like this, so it IS in fact possible 
somehow... 8-)


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Re: missing folders in resource folder

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

FYI I added a bug report for this:
<https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24275>

> Am 18.07.2023 um 21:47 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I added a folder "daten" in the "Copy files" tab in the "Standalone 
> Application settings".
> Inside of this folder are five more folders and two of them are EMPTY.
> 
> The two empty folders do NOT appear in the Android runtime if I do:
> ...
> put specialfolderpath("resources") & "/daten" into tFolder
> put folders(tFolder) into fld xyz
> ## I only get the NOT empty folders in the field!?
> ...
> Is this a feature or a bug?

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missing folders in resource folder

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I added a folder "daten" in the "Copy files" tab in the "Standalone Application 
settings".
Inside of this folder are five more folders and two of them are EMPTY.

The two empty folders do NOT appear in the Android runtime if I do:
...
put specialfolderpath("resources") & "/daten" into tFolder
put folders(tFolder) into fld xyz
## I only get the NOT empty folders in the field!?
...
Is this a feature or a bug?


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Re: Android and USB footswitch

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

> Am 18.07.2023 um 20:57 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/17/23 5:02 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Since PDFs are not accessible via "mobilepickmedia" are there ANY other ways 
>> to add
>> some PDFs later without having to download them from some URL?
> 
> I tried several things but I couldn't get any of them to work. You can write 
> to and read from the mobile documents folder, but if you put a file in there 
> manually it isn't seen by the app. I use a very good file manager on Android 
> called Solid Explorer and it does see a file I copy to documents, but my 
> mobile app doesn't list it or confirm anything is there.
> If you want to try, download a good file manager; Google or Samsung's default 
> Files app won't work. Then go to the app's document folder, which is located 
> here:
>  /Android/data/com.your.appID/
> You may have to give the file manager permissions to open those folders, 
> they're locked down in recent versions of Android. Solid Explorer will ask 
> you to allow it.

thank you, will install and try Solid Explorer!

> We really need LC to give us access to the public documents folder. I think 
> that's the only way to do what you (and I) want.

Yes, definitively! 
The "Downloads" or "Documents" folder would be a good start, otherwise we 
cannot create apps
where the user needs to add more files.

Since this is an app for my personal pleasure, I will create a way to "sync" 
local files with files on
my server.

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Re: permanency of an unsigned Android app on the phone?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 18.07.2023 um 17:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> No, they'll work indefinitely.

ah, thank you, that's good news! :-)

> Depending on the Android version the user may need to bypass a scary warning,
> accept some permissions, and turn on the ability to download from unknown 
> sources in system settings.

Yes, sure.

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permanency of an unsigned Android app on the phone?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

if I "Do not sign" my Android app and let someone install 
the app via Google Drive, will the app cease to work at 
some point like iOS apps do after 90 days (I think)?

Thanks for any hint!


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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

> Am 17.07.2023 um 22:05 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/17/23 3:10 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Maybe I do not understand it correctly?
>> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> Thanks for contacting Google Play Developer Support.
>> Google Play app search works across title, developer name, and app 
>> descriptions.
>> Your title should be unique and accessible, avoid common terms, and reinforce
>> what your app is about.
>> Using common or generic words like "Puzzle" or "Sports" can often increase 
>> the
>> total number of potential search results, thus making your app more 
>> difficult to find.
>> Using the search phrase Sehen-Hören-Merken forces our search engine to 
>> autocorrect
>> the search term and return results as if the search term were "Sehen - Hören 
>> - Merken" (in quotes).
> Interesting. The app that couldn't be found for me had an "@" sign in the 
> name. So I agree that symbols or punctuation like hyphens may be the problem.

yes, looks like...

> Since their algorithm converts the search term, you could try putting the 
> Google version in the description somewhere. You could put it way at the 
> bottom of the description, just for reference.

Do you mean in the description on the page in the Google Play Store?
If yes, that will not make sense, since the problem is to find that page first!
Chicken and egg problem... :-)

If not, please explain.

> I very occasionally see titles like this:
> Sehen-Hören-Merken (Sehen - Hören - Merken)
> 
> I wondered why but now I think I know.
> 
> -- 
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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

> Am 17.07.2023 um 17:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I bet the dashes mean something in the search algorithm. 

well, maybe.

However that entering a misspelled app name will lead to a successfull find is 
really ridiculous!
sehen - hören - merkn -> App found (missing E renders this to a NON german 
word!) 
instead of
sehen - hören - merken -> no result 8-)

> Bob S
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 1:10 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> ...
>> just received a response from Google.
>> It is completely generic, does not make any sense to me, but it looks like 
>> they do NOT 
>> search for the correct and complete title of an app in their database. :-/
>> Maybe I do not understand it correctly?
>> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> Thanks for contacting Google Play Developer Support.
>> 
>> Google Play app search works across title, developer name, and app 
>> descriptions. 
>> Your title should be unique and accessible, avoid common terms, and 
>> reinforce 
>> what your app is about.
>> 
>> Using common or generic words like "Puzzle" or "Sports" can often increase 
>> the 
>> total number of potential search results, thus making your app more 
>> difficult to find. 
>> Using the search phrase Sehen-Hören-Merken forces our search engine to 
>> autocorrect 
>> the search term and return results as if the search term were "Sehen - Hören 
>> - Merken" (in quotes).
>> 
>> For more information about Google Search Operators, please see this Google 
>> Search Help Center article.
>> ...
>> 

Best

Klaus

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Re: Android and USB footswitch

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

FYI: I solved the problem!

1. For testing I ordered the cheapest USB footswitch fom Mr. Pesos -> 15.99 Euro
2. Also ordered an USB-A to Micro-USB adapter
3. Downloaded the software for setting up the footswitch, there is even a Mac 
version!
4. Configured the footswitch to act as a mouseclick
5. Tested with a quick LC app on my Android tablet and...
... IT WORKS, hooray! :-)

The P.S. in my initial posting is still waiting for an answer. :-)

> Am 25.05.2023 um 17:22 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I'm still an active musician (bass guitar) and am currently playing in four 
> bands.
> 
> Nowadays bulky music stands on stage are OUT and tablets are IN!
> So I am considering to create a little app for myself to display PDF 
> leadsheets 
> (= lyrics and chord symbols) on an Andorid tablet, which I still have to buy. 
> :-)
> 
> There are some USB footswitches, and I would like to use one of them to 
> browse 
> through the (multipage) PDFs (next page, previous page).
> 
> Anyone knows if these switches will act like an "external keyboard", means if 
> they 
> will just send any RAWKEY that I could catch in LC? 
> Or will I need something created with LCB to do so?
> 
> Thanks for any hint!

P.S.
Since PDFs are not accessible via "mobilepickmedia" are there ANY other ways to 
add 
some PDFs later without having to download them from some URL?

Best

Klaus

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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 14.07.2023 um 22:36 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/14/23 7:16 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> I am looking for a support email at GOOGLE Dev.
>> My problem is the search engine of Google Play Store.
>> Just like the subject says. ;-)
> 
> Oh right, I'm supposed to read the subject title. Oops. This is the closest 
> thing I could find:
> <https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10357403?hl=en>
> 
> They don't make it easy.

just received a response from Google.

It is completely generic, does not make any sense to me, but it looks like they 
do NOT 
search for the correct and complete title of an app in their database. :-/

Maybe I do not understand it correctly?

Hi Klaus,

Thanks for contacting Google Play Developer Support.

Google Play app search works across title, developer name, and app 
descriptions. 
Your title should be unique and accessible, avoid common terms, and reinforce 
what your app is about.

Using common or generic words like "Puzzle" or "Sports" can often increase the 
total number of potential search results, thus making your app more difficult 
to find. 
Using the search phrase Sehen-Hören-Merken forces our search engine to 
autocorrect 
the search term and return results as if the search term were "Sehen - Hören - 
Merken" (in quotes).

For more information about Google Search Operators, please see this Google 
Search Help Center article.
...


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Klaus
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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 14.07.2023 um 22:36 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/14/23 7:16 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> I am looking for a support email at GOOGLE Dev.
>> My problem is the search engine of Google Play Store.
>> Just like the subject says. ;-)
> 
> Oh right, I'm supposed to read the subject title. Oops. This is the closest 
> thing I could find:
> <https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10357403?hl=en>

ah, thank you, will try to get some help there.

> They don't make it easy.

So sad and so true...

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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Best

Klaus

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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 13.07.2023 um 22:43 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/11/23 2:44 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>> You could try writing to support and see if they can tell you what's wrong.
>> yes, worth a try, do you have the supports email address?
> Sorry for the late reply, you may have found it already but you can write to 
> support here:
> <https://developer.apple.com/support/>

oops, just noticed...

I am looking for a support email at GOOGLE Dev.
My problem is the search engine of Google Play Store.
Just like the subject says. ;-)

> Scroll to the middle of the page, there's a button.
> 
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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Klaus
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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 13.07.2023 um 22:43 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/11/23 2:44 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>> You could try writing to support and see if they can tell you what's wrong.
>> yes, worth a try, do you have the supports email address?
> 
> Sorry for the late reply, you may have found it already but you can write to 
> support here:
> <https://developer.apple.com/support/>
> Scroll to the middle of the page, there's a button.

thank you very much!

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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Best

Klaus

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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 11.07.2023 um 21:32 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/11/23 1:46 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I don't know how the search algorithm works, maybe it takes some time to 
>>> populate.
>> See above, well, that should be finished already. 8-)
> You could try writing to support and see if they can tell you what's wrong.

yes, worth a try, do you have the supports email address?

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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Klaus

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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jacques,

> Am 11.07.2023 um 17:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> My client had similar results where the name of the app was not found. It 
> could be found by searching for the company name though.
> We couldn't explain it. Some weeks later it suddenly could be found normally 
> by its name.

the apps are in the stores since february...

> I don't know how the search algorithm works, maybe it takes some time to 
> populate.

See above, well, that should be finished already. 8-)

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> On July 11, 2023 8:06:18 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> strange results whjen searching a german app in the Google Playstore.
>> We have an app namde -> Sehen - Hören - Merken
>> in the Apple and Google store.
>> iOS
>> <https://apps.apple.com/de/app/sehen-hören-merken/id6447787986>
>> Android
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bk.sehen_hoeren_merken=1>
>> 
>> However it is not easy to find the app in Google be it on the PC/Mac
>> (via browser URL: https://play.google.com/store) or on an Android Device
>> with the Googgle app:
>> 1. If I enter -> Sehen - Hören
>> App is found
>> 
>> 2. If I enter its full name: Sehen - Hören - Merken
>> NO results
>> 
>> 3. If I enter its full name and its file externsion: Sehen - Hören - 
>> Merke.app
>> App is found.
>> 
>> Any hintst that may shed some light on this phenomenon very appreciated.
>> Thank a lot in advance!

Best

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Re: Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias,

> Am 11.07.2023 um 15:34 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Much better 
> if i enter
> Sehen Hören Merkn 
> or
> sehen-hören-merkn
> or 
> sehen - hören - merkn
> the app is found and listed at first

YO!?
merkn, oh my, oh my... :-D
Thanks for testing!

> if i enter 
> Sehen Hören Merken
> or
> sehen-hören-merk
> or 
> sehen hören merk
> or
> sehen - hören - merken
> the app is also not found.

Molto mysterioso...

So I guess there are no search-regularities of any kind here?

>> Am 11.07.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> strange results whjen searching a german app in the Google Playstore.
>> We have an app namde -> Sehen - Hören - Merken
>> in the Apple and Google store.
>> iOS 
>> <https://apps.apple.com/de/app/sehen-hören-merken/id6447787986>
>> Android
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bk.sehen_hoeren_merken=1>
>> 
>> However it is not easy to find the app in Google be it on the PC/Mac 
>> (via browser URL: https://play.google.com/store) or on an Android Device 
>> with the Googgle app:
>> 1. If I enter -> Sehen - Hören
>> App is found
>> 
>> 2. If I enter its full name: Sehen - Hören - Merken
>> NO results
>> 
>> 3. If I enter its full name and its file externsion: Sehen - Hören - 
>> Merke.app
>> App is found.
>> 
>> Any hintst that may shed some light on this phenomenon very appreciated.
>> Thank a lot in advance!

Best

Klaus

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Search for an app in Google Play Store

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

strange results whjen searching a german app in the Google Playstore.
We have an app namde -> Sehen - Hören - Merken
in the Apple and Google store.
iOS 

Android


However it is not easy to find the app in Google be it on the PC/Mac 
(via browser URL: https://play.google.com/store) or on an Android Device 
with the Googgle app:
1. If I enter -> Sehen - Hören
App is found

2. If I enter its full name: Sehen - Hören - Merken
NO results

3. If I enter its full name and its file externsion: Sehen - Hören - Merke.app
App is found.

Any hintst that may shed some light on this phenomenon very appreciated.
Thank a lot in advance!


Best

Klaus

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PDF widget and "pinch zoom"

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

I just found out that the PDF widget supports "pinch zoom"
(correct term?) on Android. KIND OF!
It is VERY VERY jerky, but somehow works, yet unpredictable,
takes some seconds to finish.

Is this an undocumented feature?
If yes, any chance that this can/will be optimized so it really 
works as exspected, read "fluently"?

Thanks for any hint!


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