Re: Best way to set up an idle timer
I should probably point out at this point, I did not mention using a frontscri[t because I am a callow youth, and forgot to mention that that was the proper way to implement this. All Hail Sarah -- Who deserves i! Oh...and Dar. Who does to...I guess. :) - Original Message - From: Dar Scott Sniff. I mentioned frontScripts, too. Sniff. Sniff. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to implement a Agree/Disagree E.U.L.A.
Hello fellow Revolutionaries, OmniLotto, for those who are familiar is finished except I need the user to accept my End User License Agreement. A boilerplate EULA with a not liable for any financial losses as a result of using this software statement to cover my butt. You see them in commercial software all the time. I only want the card (main stack?) to appear once, when they first run it. Then if they agree, it never appears again. Should the software write something into the program or somewhere? What about re-installs? How do they do that? Any advice? Thanks, Andy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: button resize
Hi Andrew and Graham, On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Andrew wrote: [...] Say I create a cartoon of a man in photoshop and I paste him into Revolution. Then my little man becomes an image in Revolution language. However, when I paste him in, the rect of the image is the size of the entire card! How can I get the rect of my little man to be exactly the size of him? I was about to suggest pasting into a locked (size and position) image object, because I thought this would resize the picture to the image size like it does in SuperCard, but a quick experiment shows that it doesn't. Must Andrew therefore do the resizing either outside RunRev or inside via script? a general rule: images look best 1:1... Means they look best (at least in RR) when they are NOT resized in any way! In Andrews case i am almost sure that the resolution is something else but not 72 dpi. Only image-editors and layout-applications know what image resolution other than 72 dpi really means... All other apps, including RR, will always display images at this reolution. They tend to think in pixel... Means if you saved an image in Photoshop with 144 dpi it will appear double-sized in RR. So you will have to set the correct resolution (72 dpi, in case you forgot) before importing/using this image in RR to get the best results possible... I am interested in a RunRev internal solution myself - can anyone suggest the most efficient one? I know there have been previous discussions about creating thumbnails, but I couldn't find an actual recipe for importing an arbitrarily-sized picture into a fixed-size image (and reducing the resolution on the way). This way you are going to have the original sized image only displayed a little smaller, means the filesize (the number of bytes occupied in your stack) is the same! This is the way i do this: import an image, resize it as desired and THEN import a snapshot of the area of the scaled image. Will end in a smaller (size and bytes) image... ... HTH Graham Hope that helps... Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to properly format text in sheet on OS X?
Hi Folks, I am trying to properly format the text in an 'answer ... as sheet' command. I need to message text to conform to OS X's UI guidelines which state that the 'message text' should use the emphasized bold system font and the 'informative text' should use the small system font. Below is my command so far but the fonts don't seem to be working: answer warning font face='Lucida Grande' size='13'bmessage text/bbrbr/fontfont face='Lucida Grande' size='11'informative text/font with Continue as sheet Can anyone help me get this working properly? Thanks, Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HyperGASP
I downloaded the free light version and it will run on Sys X (classic), but can't get it to create new stacks.j I suspect it needs to run in Sys 9, not classic. Anyway, playing with it as is would give one an understanding of what a real 'beginner support tool' would look like. With something like this I could get 8 year olds involved (or childish older folks). I emailed the owners and they quit supporting it when Apple quit supporting Hcard. They still sell the original version and the lastest upgrade. Hope someone downloads the light version (Mac only) and will provide a more advanced perspective. http://www.calibanmw.com/download.html John ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
APPLE EXPO in PARIS
Hi Heather, I write this quesiton to the list because it can show interests for much Revolution users : Will you be present at the Apple Expo in Paris as previous year ?? Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to implement an Agree/Disagree License agreement?-serial number?
And maybe related to this, how does one implement a serial number system? That is, a person enters the serial number the first time and never sees that screen again. And is there a random serial number generator out there? Do they HAVE to be as long as the Rev serial numbers? John ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: button resize
Andrew (and any other new recruits from HC days), Andrew wrote recently: ...I'm new to revolution, but I have much experience with Hypercard. I was wondering if you fine folks could give me some tips on how to deal with images and animation in Revolution. First, pace yourself! There's lot's of new, really great stuff to learn about. Start with About Revolution for Hypercard Developers in the Docs, and then About Groups and Backgrounds. Making the switch from thinking about cards and backgrounds to cards and groups took me a while but it is fundamental to understanding the Revolution way. You'll like it. Learn about custom properties early on, too. You'll like them. The main problem that I'm having with Revolution is getting an image's rect to be the right size. ... Other folks answered about this. You'll definitely want to do all your image work in PhotoShop and Save for Web in the size and quality you want. And if you don't already know how to use ImageReady, get out the book -- sounds like you'll be wanting to use some animated GIFs too. ;^) Now a slightly more complicated question: I used to make games in Hypercard by animating the icons of buttons. The buttons could move around the screen while their icons were changing simultaneously. Revolution has me excited because of its capability to handle large, colorful images. ... and transparency, and animated GIFs, and graphic objects, and built-in animations, and I can't wait to see what you make! Note that there's an important difference between showing an image and showing a button whose icon is set to an image. Check the docs and the list archives for the best info about this. In trying to animate these images, the only thing I can figure out is to have a new image for each frame of the animation. Then I would program the script to hide one image (the first frame) and show the next image (the second frame) in the same place. You can also place multiple frames in an animated GIF that you just set to which frame you want. You can use this technique if you don't need to show different frames of the GIF on different buttons at the same time, and that probably would apply to your main character. In the stack contributions at the RunRev site is an example of controlling animated GIFs from a script. ... [need multiple images available on several cards] ... Is there any way to have these images somehow belong to the stack so they could be referenced from any card? This was answered in another message too, involving using a group and the backgroundBehavior property. Like I said, lots to learn and enjoy. (I am just now grokking the frontscripts and the backscripts. Oh, boy!) Jim Lyons ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to implement an Agree/Disagree License agreement?-serial number?
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 07:58 AM, John Tenny wrote: And is there a random serial number generator out there? Do they HAVE to be as long as the Rev serial numbers? No, it doesn't have to be as long. It includes embedded info and I would guess it is double what it might be even then. Here is a very short verification code generator (off the top of my head): -- keep this secret somehow and share it between the product and generator local secret = John Tenny's Blaster 4000 LE function verificationCode userEmailAddress return char 1 to 5 of base64Encode(md5digest(userEmailAddresssecret)) end verificationCode function isValidCode userEmailAddress code set caseSensitive to true return code = verificationCode(userEmailAddress) end isValidCode Gotta run; you may need to repair this. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: APPLE EXPO in PARIS
Yves COPPE wrote: Hi Heather, I write this quesiton to the list because it can show interests for much Revolution users : Will you be present at the Apple Expo in Paris as previous year ?? Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Same question. It would be really cool to meet us, there :-) -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Serveurs d'applications et SGBDR (Web/PGI) Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to implement a Agree/Disagree E.U.L.A.
What we do here is write the date and time the user clicked "I Agree'" to a Preferences file (Mac) or Registry entry (PC). You can get the Mac prefs folder using specialFolderPath, and use SetRegistry and QueryRegistry on a PC. When the program launches again, it checks to see if there is a prefs file or a registry entry. If not, the user gets the EULA screen, otherwise it continues. This allows program upgrades to be time- or feature-sensitive if necessary by comparing data written to something in the new release such as a version number or the current date. /H
Eggplant from Redstone Software
Hello, I would like to take a moment to introduce you to a cross-platform testing and automation tool that has been developed for use on Mac OS X. It is written in Cocoa, and contains a scripting language called SenseTalk, that you would be familiar with because it is based on HyperTalk and AppleScript. My name is Jim Armstrong, and I have been involved with HyperCard since its beginning in 1986. I have been following this list since its early days, and really like features and power of Runtime Revolution. Especially version 2.1. If you are passionate about scripting, please take a look at Eggplant. It allows cross-platform scripting, testing and control applications. I think you will agree it makes a nice compliment to Run Rev for developing multi-platform and internet applications using OSXvnc and other flavors of Virtual Network Computing. Our website is at http://www.redstonesoftware. com Take a look at the QuickTime movie of Eggplant, and if you are interesting in evaluating it, send me an email, and I will get you going with a 30-day evaluation copy. Jim Armstrong Redstone Software, Inc. San Jose, CA office ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: button resize
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:33:16 -0700, Andrew wrote: The main problem that I'm having with Revolution is getting an image's rect to be the right size. Say I create a cartoon of a man in photoshop and I paste him into Revolution. Then my little man becomes an image in Revolution language. However, when I paste him in, the rect of the image is the size of the entire card! How can I get the rect of my little man to be exactly the size of him? I've made this little script to resize an image : set the lockloc of image image to false get the rect of image image put (item 3 of it-item 1 of it) into hor put (item 4 of it-item 2 of it) into ver -- i use a square in background to have square border even if the rect of image is not a square : put the rect of graphic tbackground into trect -- to see the border : repeat with i=3 to 4 subtract 2 from item i of trect end repeat if hor = ver and hor (item 3 of trect-item 1 of trect) then set the rect of image image to (item 1 of trect, item 2 of trect, item 3 of trect, (item 2 of trect+(ver*(item 3 of trect-item 1 of trect))/hor)) else if ver hor and ver (item 4 of trect-item 2 of trect) then set the rect of image image to (item 1 of trect, item 2 of trect, (item 1 of trect+(hor*(item 4 of trect-item 2 of trect))/ver), item 4 of trect) end if set the loc of image image to the loc of graphic tbackground set the lockloc of image image to true ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to implement an Agree/Disagree License agreement?
From: yoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to implement an Agree/Disagree License agreement? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:43:36 -0400 Should I do the EULA in an Installer capsule like Vise or similar? -- You know, I would like to reimplement my *HC Payload Stack for Light Aircraft in Rev, but I certainly don't want any liability for its use, so I'm interested in this thread. I'd also enjoy feedback/questions from any pilots out there in Rev territory. Anyway, I like your suggestion. The EULA should be like a password encryption in an installer file, not the operational stack. IOW, you can't load the app at all unless the terms of use are agreed to. This way, if the app has a problem, you can reinstall by making another agreement. The new app would simply replace the old one. Thus, there would be no need to have a disappearing page, the user would just trash the installer (if they want to). I don't know about server installations, though. Ken N. *See a new post about the Payload Chart under Payload Charts for Light Aircraft -- K.N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Help - my RunRev IDE has slowed to a crawl
I remember this happening to other people maybe when RunRev 2.0 came out, but I can't find the messages using the Google search. Today I was editing a set of stacks which I've been working on for a very long time using both Mac and Windows environments. In this case I was using a Mac running OS9.2.2 to power RR 2.0r2, and very soon after opening my mainstack in the IDE, things slowed to a crawl to the extent that it takes tens of seconds for RunRev to react to clicks or even to give up control to another app. I don't think I've changed my own stuff in other than a trivial way since it was working without problems (just a few iterations ago). Can anyone suggest something I should be doing to bring the IDE back to life? (I ought maybe to say that most of my recent development has been done using a Windows XP system and I've only just got back to the Mac - nevertheless I have built some working apps using the Dist Builder today). Just can't think how to proceed... TIA for any advice Graham -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Payload Charts for Light Aircraft
This chart generator was originally created in HyperCard on a Mac SE about 14 years ago. It was co-authored by myself and Roger Peard, Col., USMC, Rtd. Both of us were members of the Blackhawk Sqdn (Lake Tahoe) of the Civil Air Patrol at the time. I want to rewrite it with an entirely new UI in Rev. It came from a concern for the safety of high Density Altitude departures at Lake Tahoe Airport. We had seen several crashes due to high DA conditions which resulted in the death of people we knew, and many other close calls, even after a specially instituted policy for ATC Ground Control to say check density altitude among the usual information given at first contact, and also a lighted DA display on the taxiway. The chart generator uses an algorithm that utilizes aircraft takeoff performance plus Weight and Balance data derived from the Pilot's Operating Handbook and Aircraft Log for a specific aircraft (not just Type and Category), the Lift Formula, modified for light aircraft, Density Altitude, and values from the Air Density Tables of the Standard Atmospheric Tables. It makes an aircraft-specific chart which shows Horsepower and Rate Of Climb vs. Density Altitude and Payload, i.e., it tells you how much weight in passengers, baggage, and fuel, the aircraft can have aboard to achieve a predetermined departure ROC at the current Density Altitude. The pilot will still need to correctly calculate DA (note: as I mentioned before, at Lake Tahoe, ATC gives this number routinely), and to determine a safe ROC for clearing obstacles and terrain before using the chart. The little chart may have saved my own life on a very hot day at an airport in eastern Nevada. We had incorporated the use of the chart in our preflight inspection checklists. We had had our CAP corporate bird refueled (to the inlet collars by direction) by airport personnel. During the subsequent preflight inspection, we determined the ROC performance we would get wasn't adequate. Using the chart, and wanting to carry the passengers and bags, we decided we could make it back home safely on less fuel, so we drained 25 gallons of fuel (not wasted, but used in another of the aircraft on the same mission), about 150 lbs., which gave us a good caution-side (something more than we needed) ROC. The departure was normal and without incident, the guages showed the numbers we expected. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Payload Charts for Light Aircraft
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 08:35 AM, Ken Norris wrote: This chart generator was originally created in HyperCard on a Mac SE about 14 years ago. It was co-authored by myself and Roger Peard, Col., USMC, Rtd. Both of us were members of the Blackhawk Sqdn (Lake Tahoe) of the Civil Air Patrol at the time. I want to rewrite it with an entirely new UI in Rev. It came from a concern for the safety of high Density Altitude departures at Lake Tahoe Airport. Ah, the Lake Tahoe Airport. That is where I finished off my qualifications for high performance aircraft in mountainous terrain. As I recall the Beachcraft Bonanza was topped of with fuel with three on board and was in the hot 95+ F degrees. At least as I recall it the pressure altitude was around 10,000 feet. We used 5000 feet of the seven thousand foot runway. At 11:00 AM that same morning we used 90% of Mammoth's shorter runway. I watched a Citobria use all 100% of the Mammoth Airport to get into the air right after we took off. So are you going to make this app available for hot pilots? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
easy way to do itemoffset and lineoffset simultaneous
I have a list of lines which each contain a certain amount of items. I need to find a certain line based on the first two items it contains. example: ... 3,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1 3,19,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 3,20,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1 4,3,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ... I know about the line which begins with 3,18 and now I need to get all lines which are nearby (x/y grid). That means I need to get the lines which begin with: 2,17 2,18 2,19 3,17 3,19 4,14 4,18 4,19 I don't know how to get these lines with that information because I can't do itemoffset (I need lines) and I cant do lineoffset (I got items). If there just where a command like : lineoffset(item 1 to 2 of the line to find,container to search) :-( ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: easy way to do itemoffset and lineoffset simultaneous
Saturday, Björnke von Gierke wrote: 3,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1 3,19,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 3,20,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 4,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1 4,3,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ... I know about the line which begins with 3,18 and now I need to get all lines which are nearby (x/y grid). That means I need to get the lines which begin with: 2,17 2,18 2,19 3,17 3,19 4,14 4,18 4,19 I don't know how to get these lines with that information because I can't do itemoffset (I need lines) and I cant do lineoffset (I got items). If there just where a command like : lineoffset(item 1 to 2 of the line to find,container to search) :-( If I were going to do this I would not use lines as a delimiter if that is possible. I'd store information as (3,18) 0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1, (3,19) 1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, (3,20) 1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, (4,1) 1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 (4,2) 0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1 (4,3) 1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 where ( is the delimiter. I'm no expert at this but you could use offset(), regEx, or split to extract your needed grid coordinates from a single delimited string. This way x/y grid numerical values in parentheses would not conflict with equivalent numerical values in the rest of each delimited data if they were to occur. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help - my RunRev IDE has slowed to a crawl
Graham Samuel wrote: I remember this happening to other people maybe when RunRev 2.0 came out, but I can't find the messages using the Google search. Today I was editing a set of stacks which I've been working on for a very long time using both Mac and Windows environments. In this case I was using a Mac running OS9.2.2 to power RR 2.0r2, and very soon after opening my mainstack in the IDE, things slowed to a crawl to the extent that it takes tens of seconds for RunRev to react to clicks or even to give up control to another app. I don't think I've changed my own stuff in other than a trivial way since it was working without problems (just a few iterations ago). Can anyone suggest something I should be doing to bring the IDE back to life? (I ought maybe to say that most of my recent development has been done using a Windows XP system and I've only just got back to the Mac - nevertheless I have built some working apps using the Dist Builder today). Just can't think how to proceed... TIA for any advice Graham Hi Graham, I had such kind of slowing down problems when i switched my first app from MC 2.5 to Rev 2.0.1 (Linux and Jaguar platforms). The only workaround i found to resolve the problem has been to avoid to put more than 100 different objects (buttons, fiels, groups,...) per card. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Serveurs d'applications et SGBDR (Web/PGI) Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: easy way to do itemoffset and lineoffset simultaneous
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I have a list of lines which each contain a certain amount of items. I need to find a certain line based on the first two items it contains. Ideas: 1. Use a regex you make each call. 2. Switch to arrays. 3. Use offset and include the return in the charsToFind (put extra return at start). For example: put return x , y into charsToFind 4. Use fixed length data and place it in the string based on x y calculations. 5. Switch to arrays. 6. Switch to arrays. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
I'm getting frustrated with fonts on multiple platforms. I tried using Ariel and Courier New thinking those would be most portable. Just between OS X and Windows there are gross differences, both in metrics and--it seems--in the characters. In some cases I can go to a fixed line height to force some metrics to be the same, but that will not work in most cases. I would like to avoid a lot of formatting calculations. I'd like to avoid tweaking a lot of profile parameters for platforms. Why are fonts with the same names so different? Are there fonts that have exactly the same metrics on different platforms? Do other applications have such gross differences when the same font is used? If that shows a gross ignorance of font metrics and platforms, I would like to learn more. Well, actually, I would like to learn more anyway, but my immediate goal is to address fonts on multiple platforms. If it requires a break to get educated, please point me to the right resources. I'm talking about very big differences. (Maybe this is a bug and I'm too ignorant to tell.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 05:30 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Maybe when the stack is opened I can try a bunch of fonts and sizes until formatedHeight and formatted Width of test strings look right. Or, and this is what you said, Mark, I can run experiments that create the map I need. If it is automatic my stack might look OK on exotic platforms or maybe go bananas. That's it! Get a comparison program to create the maps. I sometimes forget that computers are supposed to make life easier. I'll need to work on this. Once I have one that works I can even try to intercept htmlText issues. My experience is to use font maps of known fonts that map well. If there is no comparison that fits well then I guess I'll just let it go. I'm storing the html in the saved documents so when they are opened by the other than creator platform I will have to use the font map to rewrite the html text. Lots of fun. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
Dar Scott heeft op zaterdag, 16 aug 2003 om 23:45 het volgende geschreven: I'm getting frustrated with fonts on multiple platforms. Why don't you try OpenType fonts? They install fine on both OSX and newer Windows versions. You will not use fonts 'like' the ones on the other platforms; but simply the same ones. Both Adobe and Microsoft have plenty of them that install fine on both platforms. And OpenType gives full Unicode possibilities. Read all info at http://www.adobe.com/type/opentype/main.html and fall in love, like I did. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 10:36 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Read all info at http://www.adobe.com/type/opentype/main.html and fall in love, like I did. Terry I was just here several hours ago searching for font maps; Installation note: OpenType fonts purchased and downloaded from the Adobe web site are in the .zip format which can be unpacked with WinZip for Windows and StuffIt Expander for Macintosh. I can't expect users to get this so that my software will look right in cross-platform file systems. Maybe I'm missing something here. Does this mean that these fonts become native to my distributed software? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
