explicitVariables

[Kevin]

I find it quite disconcerting that I cannot use explicitVaraible = true without the 
IDE experiencing significant errors.  Any work arounds?  Why wouldn't the IDE be 
developed with explicitVaraibles true (then shipped false for those who prefer that)? 

Kevin



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Disclaimer:

Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
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Re: Rev mauals

[Christopher Mitchell]

are printed manuals still available?  I guess I should just look at the 
site, but this is intriguing now :)
Yours,
Chris
On Mar 3, 2004, at 12:49 AM, Ken Ray wrote:

Yup, just got mine, too... Didn't realize the transcript dictionary was
8.5 x 11 and about 2 inches thick... whoa!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:04 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Rev mauals


On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I just got my Manuals for REV. Yippee.
My wife just walked in with mine.  Yippee.

I opened the technical reference to something I didn't know.

Folks should go look on their porches!  Well, those who
ordered manuals.
Dar Scott

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Re: OT: virus alarm

[Erik Hansen]

--- Klaus Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> the good ol' "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" virus is
> currently active...

thanks for the heads up.

maybe that Wolfgang thing was over the top...

Erik


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Re: Hard code or portable code

[Dar Scott]

On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 08:21 PM, hershrev wrote:

is there a way to imitate hard code with some kind of container ?
Here are a couple of ideas:

1.  Use a list of names--

Create a list in a manner much like this:

repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
   put (the name of field x) & LF after myVar
end repeat
Use it much like this (say to sum):

put 0 into fieldSum
repeat for each line f in myVar
  add field f to fieldSum
end repeat
OR

2.  Add a numerical subscript to fields of a particular type--

Say some fields are named "count 1", "count 2" and so on.

Create the count like this:

put 0 into numberOfCountFields
repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
  if the name of field x starts with "count " then
add 1 to numberOfCountFields
  end if
end repeat
(Or you can just type it into a custom property and use that, if the 
number is fixed.)

Use it like this:

put 0 into fieldSum
repeat with x = 1 to numberOfCountFields
  add field ("count" & x) to fieldSum
end repeat
3.
Or some other variation or combination...
Dar Scott





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RE: Rev mauals

[Ken Ray]

Yup, just got mine, too... Didn't realize the transcript dictionary was
8.5 x 11 and about 2 inches thick... whoa!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Dar Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:04 PM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Rev mauals
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
> 
> > I just got my Manuals for REV. Yippee.
> 
> My wife just walked in with mine.  Yippee.
> 
> I opened the technical reference to something I didn't know.
> 
> Folks should go look on their porches!  Well, those who 
> ordered manuals.
> 
> Dar Scott
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Discrete Browser 1.5g8 now available

[MisterX]

Hi everyone

The last discrete browser enhancements are available at

Download and latest release details at
http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=142

The language pack is not available yet as there is a blocking
problem with the Geometry manager which makes the API not ready for
release.
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1222

Im also working on the dialog and menus API for a later release.

BTW an improved Favorites menu is not finished.

Meanwhile, this should be quasi bug free and im interested in
possible link resolution bugs if you find any...

Showing images still at your own risk. If you try and get a crash
please vote for bug 1219...
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1219

Comments, praise, flames, donations, script improvements and
bugs reports still encouraged!

Revcheers
Xavier

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Re: How to script the quit menu in the application Menu in MacOSX?

[François Cuneo]

Le 3.3.2004 3:38, Sarah Reichelt à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

> In OS X, because the menu item is moved automatically, it does not
> trigger the usual menuPick handler in the File menu. Put a
> closeStackRequest or shutdownRequest handler in your main stack script
> instead. If you look up "quit" in the docs, you will see a related
> section discussing how to handle quitting in OS X.

Thank you Sarah!
Amicalement
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Command 2 goes to card three!

[Tom Cole]

I just upgraded to Panther and now I find that when I open my super 
smokin' project in rev when I press COMMAND 2 it goes from cd 1 to cd 
3. It skips a card. Later it becomes normal and goes one card at a 
time. Maybe Panther isn't the problem, but what gives? I am horrified 
because I'm ready to distribute this software. It works fine, luckily 
but I sure would like to know why this sudden change has taken place.

¡Mil Gracias!

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Hard code or portable code

[hershrev]

Hi all,
is there a way to imitate hard code with some kind of container ?
e.g.
put "a" into  field 1
put "b" into field 2
put field 1 & field 2 into field 3 will return "ab"

put name of field 1 after  myVar
put name of field 2 after  myVar
put myVar into field 3 will return "field 1 field 2" and not "ab"
or
 repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
 put name of field into myVar
end repeat
put (the text of item 1 of ) myVar into field 3 will return "field 1or  
field 2 or both depends"
I'd like to be able have the text of field 1 and 2
the plus, to avoid to hard code many amounts of field names
Thanks hershrev

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Re: How to script the quit menu in the application Menu in MacOSX?

[Sarah Reichelt]

Hello everybody!
I'm able to script a standard quit menu (of course).
But the automatic Quit menu in MacOSX, how is it possible to script it
please?
In OS X, because the menu item is moved automatically, it does not 
trigger the usual menuPick handler in the File menu. Put a 
closeStackRequest or shutdownRequest handler in your main stack script 
instead. If you look up "quit" in the docs, you will see a related 
section discussing how to handle quitting in OS X.

Cheers,
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Re: Printing question for Windows people pt 2

[David Squance]

>I use Courier New
>
>-Chipp

Thanks for the reply, Chipp.  Courier New is giving me what I need as far
as the font goes, however, I can't get the text size to vary when it
prints.  The fields which print show different sizes, but it all prints in
14 point on the XP.  On my Mac, the size changes work fine.

I checked the same workstation with Word and a couple of sizes of Courier
New and it was as expected.  Is there anything else I need to do within the
script?

The relevant part is:

  put the value of the clickline into cline
  set the textsize of fld "data" to cline
  set the textheight of fld "data" to cline

Dave


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Re: Getting palette buttons to work on another stack

[JonathanC]

"Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... you should be able to do this (but only when the palette's 
> really a palette):
> 
> on mouseUp
>   set the defaultStack to the topStack
>   repeat with i=1 to the number of flds
> set cursor to busy
> set lockText of fld i to not (lockText of fld i)
>   end repeat
> end mouseUp

Thanks Ken. I notice that defaultStack is a global variable. Does that 
mean I should set it back to what it was before? Like this:
on mouseUp
  put the defaultStack into saved_value
  set the defaultStack to the topStack
  repeat with i=1 to the number of flds
set cursor to busy
set lockText of fld i to not (lockText of fld i)
  end repeat
  set the defaultStack to saved_value
end mouseUp

... or doesn't it matter?

Regards,
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Art Gallery of New South Wales
Sydney, Australia
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Re: Rev mauals

[Dar Scott]

On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I just got my Manuals for REV. Yippee.
My wife just walked in with mine.  Yippee.

I opened the technical reference to something I didn't know.

Folks should go look on their porches!  Well, those who ordered manuals.

Dar Scott

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Rev mauals

[Thomas McGrath III]

I just got my Manuals for REV. Yippee.

I didn't know there was that much in the online docs. Wow, what a lot 
of info.

Now I am happy.

It is a good day.

Now all I need to do is find a way using REV to generate enough income 
to pay for the new Harley Davidson I bought today.
Maybe I can make a Button Gadget app. OH that's right I forgot that 
will only get me a couple of flat screen TVs. ;-)

TOm

Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
2.1.2

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Re: final php versions of fwPack and fwUnpack

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> Many, many thanks to shaosean and Brian Yennie for providing php 
> versions of fwPack and fwUnpack.  I cleaned them up a bit, added some 
> error handling, and tested the final code.

error handling?!  you make mistakes?!!  ;-)

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Re: Special Rev License offer at EuroRevCon!

[Christopher Mitchell]

Very good on the Express pricing, but it is a bit misleading to claim a 
"special" 1/4th off Studio - even if the retail price is $399 - because 
the website has been selling Studio for $299 for months.

Yours,
Chris
On Mar 2, 2004, at 10:37 AM, sims wrote:
Make sure your seat is reserved at the European Revolution Conference!
17-18 April 2004 in Valletta, Malta - seating is limited so book now.
The following fantastic offer will be available for all who attend 
EuroRevCon:

* One-third off Revolution Express!
Buy Revolution Express at the show for just $99 (retail price $149)
* One-fourth off Revolution Studio!
Buy the Eddy-winning Revolution Studio Edition for $299 (retail price 
$399).

The special hotel and conference price ends on 10 March!!
Hotel two nights (bed & breakfast) & airport transfer & conference is 
only $375.00
Hotel three nights (bed & breakfast) & airport transfer & conference 
is only $435.00

We will have expert Rev developers Malte Brill, Klaus Major, and Jan 
Schenkel explaining
how to get started with Rev, develop games, perform problem solving, 
algorithm development,
how to build sophisticated business applications, and much more. The 
presentations are designed
for beginner, intermediate, and advanced Rev users.

For the conference schedule and more information: 
http://www.techietours.com/Rev/
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How to script the quit menu in the application Menu in MacOSX?

[François Cuneo]

Hello everybody!
I'm able to script a standard quit menu (of course).
But the automatic Quit menu in MacOSX, how is it possible to script it
please?

Thank you!

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Re: Opening a zipped file in RunRev?

[Chipp Walters]

Jim,

There's not currently any native way I know of to either zip or unzip 
data in RR w/out an external to do so. I suppose you might consider 
finding a command-line utility and shelling out to it...

check out:
http://www.dpo.uab.edu/software/unzip/getunzipPC.html
(DOS version)

best,

Chipp

Jim Hurley wrote:


And are we talking about zip files or gzip files?
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Re: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[Chipp Walters]

Jacque, thanks!

This does too:

  set the textstyle of the selection to "plain"

It is both shorter and retains the selection and the scroll. No need 
to save and re-select.

Richard,
Yep, I already do that, I just didn't want to make this look any more 
complicated than it already is:-)


Since this is happening in a paste operation, wouldn't you need to first 
get the offset to the beginning of the selection, count the length of 
the clipboard contents, and set the selection accordingly before running 
that line?

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Re: "Read" a URL?

[Chipp Walters]

Dave Cragg's next version of libURL will :-) (assuming you have the 
correct script on the server)...

But, Rev Dictionary says of "put it into URL 
"http://www.example.com/file";': "Most web servers do not allow you to 
upload via HTTP."
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Re: Problems with cloning cards...

[Stephen King]

Mark,
Thanks for the response, I haven't yet tried it in the standalone, I have
been working this section entirely in the IDE.

The card has a background group but not created by the script.

Anyway, I'll put a few more debug prompts in then test with a standalone.

Cheers
Steve

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Re: Opening a zipped file in RunRev?

[Brian Yennie]

   save this stack as compress(url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev")

(This produces gibberish for the file name on my HD.)
I think you want something more like:

put compress(this stack) into url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev.gz"

And then what? Are you assuming the user (the person downloading this 
file from the web) is running Run Rev and that the Run Rev application 
has the instructions for decompressing the downloaded file and then 
opening it? And what does that code look like? Anything like:

uncompress(url "file:??)

And are we talking about zip files or gzip files?
Rev's compression is gzip.

To open the above, you could do:

put uncompress(url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev.gz") into url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev"

OR open it directly without saving to disk:

go stack uncompress(url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev.gz")

HTH,
Brian
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Re: Opening a zipped file in RunRev?

[Jim Hurley]

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:01:15 -0800
From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opening a zipped file in RunRev?
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
On 3/1/04 5:49 PM, "Dar Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >>> I don't suppose there is any way for RunRev to deal with a zipped
 >>> file, i.e.,  myStack.rev.zip?
 Sure - decompress it locally and then run it.  See the decompress
 function.

 > But that's gzip.  Or has something new come along?

The original example posted lists a stack as the zipped file.  Thus it would
possible to compress the original stack and then decompress the stack
wherever needed.
Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development & Design
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Sorry Scott, I still don't get it. Take me through this. I have a 
stack file "MyStackFile,rev".

Do I compress the stack with something like:

   save this stack as compress(url "file:Macintosh HD/Desktop 
Folder/MyStackFile2.rev")

(This produces gibberish for the file name on my HD.)

And then what? Are you assuming the user (the person downloading this 
file from the web) is running Run Rev and that the Run Rev 
application has the instructions for decompressing the downloaded 
file and then opening it? And what does that code look like? Anything 
like:

uncompress(url "file:??)

And are we talking about zip files or gzip files?

Confused,

Jim

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Re: EuroRevCon!

[Dar Scott]

On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 10:24 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

This Rev Conference is a great idea . . . wish I could afford a trip 
to Europe to attend.
I wish you could, too.

I wish I could.  It would be great to take my wife to Malta, too.  It 
would be great to meet European Revolutionaries face-to-face.  I 
sighed, when Malta was first mentioned on this list, and now there is a 
conference!

I wish all a great time.

Dar Scott

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Re: cgi appleevents

[J. Landman Gay]

On 3/1/04 12:48 AM, Ed Haskell wrote:

In Revolution 1.1 I am able to receive cgi information indirectly from 
Apache via a program called acgi diapatcher which sends an  appleevent 
to Revolution (and my current stack).  I use the stack as a web 
application to generate dynamic htmls. I can run stacks in the 
development mode which makes it very easy for debugging.  In Revolution 
2 and above the appleevent is passed to Revolution (I think), but I 
can't capture it in my stack.  Was this capability taken out of 2.2?  
I'm sure there are much more direct ways of doing this, but for now I'd 
just like to be able to run 2.2 with my legacy stacks.
It should still work the same way, just as it always has. You need an 
appleEvent handler to catch the message, of course.

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Re: EuroRevCon!

[Roger Guay]

This Rev Conference is a great idea . . . wish I could afford a trip to 
Europe to attend.  How about scheduling one for North America?

Cheers, Roger


Make sure your seat is reserved at the European Revolution Conference!
17-18 April 2004 in Valletta, Malta - seating is limited so book now.
The following fantastic offer will be available for all who attend 
EuroRevCon:

* One-third off Revolution Express!
Buy Revolution Express at the show for just $99 (retail price $149)
* One-fourth off Revolution Studio!
Buy the Eddy-winning Revolution Studio Edition for $299 (retail price 
$399).

The special hotel and conference price ends on 10 March!!
Hotel two nights (bed & breakfast) & airport transfer & conference is
only $375.00
Hotel three nights (bed & breakfast) & airport transfer & conference
is only $435.00
We will have expert Rev developers Malte Brill, Klaus Major, and Jan
Schenkel explaining
how to get started with Rev, develop games, perform problem solving,
algorithm development,
how to build sophisticated business applications, and much more. The
presentations are designed
for beginner, intermediate, and advanced Rev users.
For the conference schedule and more information:
http://www.techietours.com/Rev/
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Re: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[J. Landman Gay]

Oh wait -- I was wrong, and I see what you mean now, Richard. Chipp is 
doing the paste/replace operation all at once.

In that case, he can still do it in one line, like this:

 put the clipboardData["text"] into the selection

There, I think that's it.

On 3/2/04 11:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 3/2/04 10:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
This does too:

  set the textstyle of the selection to "plain"

It is both shorter and retains the selection and the scroll. No need 
to save and re-select.


Since this is happening in a paste operation, wouldn't you need to 
first get the offset to the beginning of the selection, count the 
length of the clipboard contents, and set the selection accordingly 
before running that line?

Chipp said he was selecting text before pasting, and the paste was meant 
to replace the selection. So, he can do it all in one line.

I didn't address how he is capturing the paste operation -- but I think 
he's already got that part, since he had a handler called "pasteIt" that 
dealt with the text after it was already inserted.



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Re: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[J. Landman Gay]

On 3/2/04 10:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 3/2/04 2:12 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Hi Jeanne, Jan -- me again :-)

Turns out my RR2.1.2 was hosed. Reinstalled and now this works for me.

on pasteIt
  put the selectedChunk into tChunk
  if tChunk is empty then exit to top
  if the clipboard is text then
put the clipboardData["text"] into tTxt
put "put tTxt into " & tChunk into tDo
do tDo
  end if
end pasteIt
This will effectively paste styled text w/out the style into a fld,
replacing the selected text.


This does too:

  set the textstyle of the selection to "plain"

It is both shorter and retains the selection and the scroll. No need 
to save and re-select.


Since this is happening in a paste operation, wouldn't you need to first 
get the offset to the beginning of the selection, count the length of 
the clipboard contents, and set the selection accordingly before running 
that line?

Chipp said he was selecting text before pasting, and the paste was meant 
to replace the selection. So, he can do it all in one line.

I didn't address how he is capturing the paste operation -- but I think 
he's already got that part, since he had a handler called "pasteIt" that 
dealt with the text after it was already inserted.

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Re: final php versions of fwPack and fwUnpack

[Richard Gaskin]

Frank Leahy wrote:

Many, many thanks to shaosean and Brian Yennie for providing php 
versions of fwPack and fwUnpack.  I cleaned them up a bit, added some 
error handling, and tested the final code.

I've put the final code up on my server at 
http://photoalbum.backtalk.com/code_snippets/fwPack_fwUnpack.php.txt

Richard, maybe you'd like to add this code to your fwPack/fwUnpack stack?
Wow - it's a red-letter day for Franks:  I just had a post from a fella 
named Frank in my support forum who made a tutorial for my WebMerge product.

I have to admit being surprised by the interest fwPack/fwUnpack has 
gotten.  As a simple "secret decoder ring" I wrote it for a specific 
need  and it's been gratifying that others have found it useful as well.

As I mentioned in the article, I'm pretty ignorant on encryption, esp. 
compared to seasoned cryptohobbyists like Mark Brownell.  So here's a 
question I can't answer about my own code:

If one were to try to characterize the relative strength of the "MDX" 
algorithm used in fwPack/fwUnpack, what phrase would be appropriate?

For example, we hear about 128-bit encryption, but I couldn't find a 
primer dumbed-down enough to explain what that means in lay terms.

Also, how easy would it be to crack MDX?

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Re: final php versions of fwPack and fwUnpack

[Pierre Sahores]

Many thanks to you too, Frank !

Your ".php" issue is stored there for future use.

Best Regards, Pierre

Le 2 mars 04, à 16:40, Frank Leahy a écrit :

Many, many thanks to shaosean and Brian Yennie for providing php 
versions of fwPack and fwUnpack.  I cleaned them up a bit, added some 
error handling, and tested the final code.

I've put the final code up on my server at 
http://photoalbum.backtalk.com/code_snippets/fwPack_fwUnpack.php.txt

Richard, maybe you'd like to add this code to your fwPack/fwUnpack 
stack?

Thanks,
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Re: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[Richard Gaskin]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 3/2/04 2:12 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Hi Jeanne, Jan -- me again :-)

Turns out my RR2.1.2 was hosed. Reinstalled and now this works for me.

on pasteIt
  put the selectedChunk into tChunk
  if tChunk is empty then exit to top
  if the clipboard is text then
put the clipboardData["text"] into tTxt
put "put tTxt into " & tChunk into tDo
do tDo
  end if
end pasteIt
This will effectively paste styled text w/out the style into a fld,
replacing the selected text.


This does too:

  set the textstyle of the selection to "plain"

It is both shorter and retains the selection and the scroll. No need to 
save and re-select.
Since this is happening in a paste operation, wouldn't you need to first 
get the offset to the beginning of the selection, count the length of 
the clipboard contents, and set the selection accordingly before running 
that line?

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Open Directory reminder

[Richard Gaskin]

I was looking at the many dozens of plug-ins, tutorials, and examples at 
the Developer Contribution page at RunRev.com, and it's an impressive 
collection.

However, only a relative handful of these valuable resources have been 
added to the new Open Directory category for Transcript:



If you make cool stuff with Rev, don't be shy -- you can add a link to 
your Revolution and Transcript resources easily with the "Suggest URL" 
link at the top of that page.  The managing editor for that section is 
very efficient, so you'll probably see you link appear in just a day or two.

Remember that the Open Directory is the world's largest human-edited 
directory, feeding part of Google, AOL Seach, and others, and is 
mirrored around the world.  Adding a link there will definitely help 
folks find your work easier, and will reflect well on the community as a 
whole.

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RE: OS X Standalone Prog Folder Problem? AGAIN

[Devin Asay]

The problem is that OS X applications are not files, but "packages" 
that are stored in special folders. You can solve your problem in one 
of two ways:

1. Don't set the defaultFolder at all. When your application is 
compiled the default folder will be the folder that holds your compiled 
application.

2. Use the method you've described below to set the defaultFolder. 
After you compile your standalone, navigate to the application file and 
control-click on it, then choose "Show Package Contents". A window will 
open up showing all the subfolders that comprise your application. 
Navigate to Contents/MacOS/ . If you put your files and folders in the 
Contents/MacOS/ folder AND you have defined the defaultFolder as the 
folder that contains your stack, then your application will find them 
there. (Even though it's confusing at first, it's actually kind of 
handy to be able to make external files and folders part of the OS X 
application package.)

NOTE TO RUNREV TEAM: If you decide to "fix" this feature in a later 
release, please tell us.

Devin

On Mar 1, 2004, at 5:56 PM, François Cuneo wrote:


I have exactly the same problem!
My application configuration is
Cuk Calcul Oral.rev
   DataFolder
Data.edb
LanguageFolder
French.rev
 FilmsFolder
FrenchFolder
bravo.mov
faux.mov
In developpement on MacOSX, all is perfect!
But in standalone, the folders are not founded (no stop in the code but
nothing appends)
I touch the folders with code like that:

put the effective filename of this stack into chemin --je cherche ou 
est
cette pile sur le disque
set the itemdelimiter to "/"
put item 1 to -2 of chemin into chemin
put chemin &"/Data/Data.edb" into chemindata

And I'm sorry, but I do not understand the difference with the Peter's 
code!
I obtain exactly the same with mine.

And it not works!!

So what please?
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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[J. Landman Gay]

On 3/2/04 2:12 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Hi Jeanne, Jan -- me again :-)

Turns out my RR2.1.2 was hosed. Reinstalled and now this works for me.

on pasteIt
  put the selectedChunk into tChunk
  if tChunk is empty then exit to top
  if the clipboard is text then
put the clipboardData["text"] into tTxt
put "put tTxt into " & tChunk into tDo
do tDo
  end if
end pasteIt
This will effectively paste styled text w/out the style into a fld,
replacing the selected text.
This does too:

  set the textstyle of the selection to "plain"

It is both shorter and retains the selection and the scroll. No need to 
save and re-select.

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final php versions of fwPack and fwUnpack

[Frank Leahy]

Many, many thanks to shaosean and Brian Yennie for providing php 
versions of fwPack and fwUnpack.  I cleaned them up a bit, added some 
error handling, and tested the final code.

I've put the final code up on my server at 
http://photoalbum.backtalk.com/code_snippets/fwPack_fwUnpack.php.txt

Richard, maybe you'd like to add this code to your fwPack/fwUnpack 
stack?

Thanks,
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RE: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[tuviah snyder]

Yeah this is annoying me as well, especially when copying paste from
websites into the script editor. So the workaround with clipboarddata that
Jeanne suggested should work but I think we need two new additional.

copy as [format] where copy as text is supported.
paste as [format] where paste as text is supported.

Tuviah

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Re: Opening a zipped file in RunRev?

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Jim,

Just use :

on mouseUp
  load url "http://localhost/evoecoles/evoecoles.mc.gz"; with 
message statutconnex
end mouseUp

on statutconnex
  if the cachedurls contains 
"http://localhost/evoecoles/evoecoles.mc.gz"; then
	go stack decompress(url 
"http://localhost/evoecoles/evoecoles.mc.gz";)
	save this stack as the directory & "/evoecoles.mc"
  else answer " " & return & "La connexion avec le serveur" && quote & 
\
	"EVOLUTION" & quote && "est rompue." & \
  	return & return & "Vérifiez votre configuration d'accès à" && \
	"l'internet avant" & return & "de poursuivre..."
end statutconnex
Works well there (Metacard and Revolution), under both Linux and 
Panther :)

Best, Pierre

Le 1 mars 04, à 16:41, Jim Hurley a écrit :

One can open a stack stored on the Web with

 Go stack url  "http://myWebSite/myStack.rev";

provided myStack.rev is a RunRev stack file.

I don't suppose there is any way for RunRev to deal with a zipped 
file, i.e.,  myStack.rev.zip?

Wishfully thinking,

Jim
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Re: Detect individual Collisions

[Alain Bois]

There is my solution
I put the following script into a hide field
on mousestilldown
  set the loc of me to the mouseloc
end mousestilldown
on mousemove
  repeat with i = 1 to the number of graphics
if intersect (me, graphic (i)) and i is not the number of me
then
  set the textcolor of me to "green"
  exit repeat
else
  set the textcolor of me to "red"
end if
  end repeat
end mousemove
Call it field 1
and i put this script into the card script or stack script
on newgraphic
set the script of the last graphic to fld 1
end newgraphic
and after when I create a new graphic, when it has a collision with any 
object graphic it changes of color.

Le 29 févr. 04, à 12:26, jbv a écrit :

Use the intersect fonction inside a repeat loop.
I did something similar last year : the user was drawing
a selection rectangle on the screen, and various objects
were changing their bordercolor in real time if they were
(or weren't) inside the selection rect. I was even able to
implement multiple selection (using the shift key and
comparing the current selection with a list of previous
selected objects).
Speed wasn't a roblem on a Mac 9600 / 300...
JB

Hi there

I'm trying to make a timeline-bar where you can add or delete 
rectangles containing "whatever". The user should be able to move a 
rectangle left or right, but if it collides with another rectangle, 
it should stop

Because the user is able to delete and add new rectangles I have to 
make some sort of function check if the moving rectangle is going to 
collide with other rectangles to the left and right. (like the 
timeline in Adobe Premiere) I know this is possible, but how do I do 
it fast. Checking every rectangle with repeat is to slow.and 
the only idea I have now is to make a list in a hidden field-table 
for every new created rectangle..

any ideas?
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Re: Saving substacks: where do I go wrong?

[xbury . cs]

dont use a substack of an application if you want to save to it...

you add the stack files to the distribution builder and that's it...
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Hi,

I want to build a standalone application with a separate stack to hold and 

save data.
On the RR website I found some instructions to do this:
http://runrev.com/revolution/developers/articles/tipoftheweek/1.html

However it does not work.
I have made test stack with stack "main1" as mainstack and "sub1" as 
substack of "main1".
Stack "sub1" has two cards. On card 2 I have text in field 1 and a button 
with script "save this stack".

I followed the instructions on the site and built the application.
However no substack files were placed in the separate folder data.
And I could not save the substack card. The result was "can't save into 
standalone".

So the question is: where do I go wrong?

Many thanks in advance.

Erik

PS: Why do posts not always make it to the lists?

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RE: Saving substacks: where do I go wrong?

[Monte Goulding]

> I want to build a standalone application with a separate stack to
> hold and
> save data.
> On the RR website I found some instructions to do this:
> http://runrev.com/revolution/developers/articles/tipoftheweek/1.html
>
> However it does not work.
> I have made test stack with stack "main1" as mainstack and "sub1" as
> substack of "main1".
> Stack "sub1" has two cards. On card 2 I have text in field 1 and a button
> with script "save this stack".
>
> I followed the instructions on the site and built the application.
> However no substack files were placed in the separate folder data.
> And I could not save the substack card. The result was "can't save into
> standalone".
>
> So the question is: where do I go wrong?

I'd suggest creating a separate stackFile for data stack so your development
folder is the same as your standalone. So create two mainStacks. Add them
both to your distribution. Make sure the right one is you application
mainstack then build.

Cheers

Monte

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Re: System Requirements

[Martin Baxter]

Hi Tom,

Can't offer any useful info on win systems, but In addition to what others
have said :

I have run 68k standalones under system 7.6 with reasonable success. How
much ram you'll need depends on your project of course. With hypercard
things were loaded from disk as required. but with rev, anything open is
loaded entirley into ram, so in general you'll need more of it than with HC.

I would however strongly advise you to test on an actual system 7 machine
if you are going to claim your software runs on one, because I've found
some significant differences between running under emulation on a PPC mac
and running actually on a 68k mac. Some things you might not expect may
crash, some things will work more like windows than mac, some things may
just fail.

Unless supporting older macs is important in your situatuion, it may be
saner to draw an arbitrary line under OS 8.6, as many vendors do nowadays,
alas.

As for revolution's stated minimum requirements, in my experience the IDE
doesn't really run under the minimum conditions stated. And in any case, a
standalone should (or can be made so that it will) require much less muscle
than the revolution IDE.

Martin

>I have a publisher who wants to distribute a CD with my rev standalones.
>Previously, when I used HyperCard for Mac and Toolbook for Windows, the
>system requirements on the CD read:
>
>Windows 386/33 processor with 8 MB RAM
>Windows 95 or higher
>Single-speed CD ROM
>256-color display at 640x48
>
>and for Mac:
>Apple Macintosh 68040 processor with 5 MB RAM
>System 7.1 or higher
>Single-speed CD-ROM
>
>Now I am distributing the same software product as MACFAT, MACOSX, and
>Windows Rev standalones. They want to know how to change the System
>requirements info to print on a CD.
>
>Could someone kindly tell me what the minimum processor speed and RAM
>requirements are for Rev standalones? Is the rest all right? What are
>developers putting on their cd's?
>
>Thanks very much.
>
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Saving substacks: where do I go wrong?

[Erik Lips]

Hi,

I want to build a standalone application with a separate stack to hold and 
save data.
On the RR website I found some instructions to do this:
http://runrev.com/revolution/developers/articles/tipoftheweek/1.html

However it does not work.
I have made test stack with stack "main1" as mainstack and "sub1" as 
substack of "main1".
Stack "sub1" has two cards. On card 2 I have text in field 1 and a button 
with script "save this stack".

I followed the instructions on the site and built the application.
However no substack files were placed in the separate folder data.
And I could not save the substack card. The result was "can't save into 
standalone".

So the question is: where do I go wrong?

Many thanks in advance.

Erik

PS: Why do posts not always make it to the lists?

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RE: Getting palette buttons to work on another stack

[Ken Ray]

> on mouseUp
>put the short name of the topStack into activeStack
>lock screen
>lock messages
>push cd
>go activeStack
>repeat with i=1 to the number of flds
>  set cursor to busy
>  set lockText of fld i to not (lockText of fld i)
>end repeat
>pop cd
> end mouseUp
>
> Is this the way you're meant to do it? It seems a little 
> clumsy - especially with the lock screen; push cd; go...; pop 
> cd stuff.

No, you should be able to do this (but only when the palette's really a
palette):

on mouseUp
  set the defaultStack to the topStack
  repeat with i=1 to the number of flds
set cursor to busy
set lockText of fld i to not (lockText of fld i)
  end repeat
end mouseUp

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Re: substack and systemWindow property

[Ops]

In this particular (windows) project, I have a mainstack and a substack, 
both with empty decorations...systemWindow works fine for the mainstack 
but NOT for the substack, which is where Sean's (most excellent) DLL 
came into play for me, and it's use was the only way I could get the 
darn substack to "float"...

Opie

Ken Ray wrote:

Sean, the systemWindow property should work on Windows ... are you sure
that it doesn't? If so, you should Bugzilla it...
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 7:32 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: substack and systemWindow property

oddly enough they added the feature into the mac versions, 
but they left 
out the windows versions (heck they could have even used my code ;-)

-Sean

-Original Message-

and "windowTopMost"...was there an easier way or a way to do it 
without the use of the dll?
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RE: 'un-style' clipboard text...

[Chipp Walters]

Hi Jeanne, Jan -- me again :-)

Turns out my RR2.1.2 was hosed. Reinstalled and now this works for me.

on pasteIt
  put the selectedChunk into tChunk
  if tChunk is empty then exit to top
  if the clipboard is text then
put the clipboardData["text"] into tTxt
put "put tTxt into " & tChunk into tDo
do tDo
  end if
end pasteIt


This will effectively paste styled text w/out the style into a fld,
replacing the selected text.

-Chipp


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