Re: TSCC license
On Mar 8, 2004, at 10:36 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I use MP3 for voice compression...it works well..about 2K per second. Question is, how long is your video? I just checked out some of the SnapZ videos and here's what I found: from a private chat chippwalters: for comparison...snapz is 419x299 while the geoMgr is 640x480 chippwalters: both about 3 Mb chippwalters: mine is over 3 minutes in length, theirs is only 16 seconds! chippwalters: their fps is 12, mine 5 Richard Gaskin wrote: Michael J. Lew wrote: Did anyone read the license agreement for the TSCC codec before clicking through and having it installed? It is 23969 characters long (Rev counted them for me ;-)... I chose not to install the software. Maybe you don't need TSCC. The videos Adobe uses are good with plain ol' QuickTime, and the QT output from Ambrosia's SnapzX is pretty good. I've been doing some training screen-videos for a client and I've found the Qualcomm TruVoice codec is great for voiceovers -- I got a 12MB recording done with Snapz down to 1.9MB. The Ambrosia videos use the QuickTime Animation codec which isn't a very good delivery codec but it is all QT really had for screen capture. At 100% quality it is lossless but even when you drop the percentage slider down you get larger file sizes then you would with a codec like TSCC. Ensharpen for QT is actually a pretty big deal because QT has not had a screen capture delivery codec while WiMP and Real have for quite some time. The codec has good compression, is lossless and is nice to your CPU (unlike Sorenson). At this point the codec can be cumbersome since it isn't part of Apple's Component Download. TechSmith applied for it but they haven't been added to the program yet. All of my companies current projects are delivered on CD-ROM so we will be distributing the Ensharpen codec with our software installers since the majority of our help uses screen capture videos. We've found that a well made tutorial video gets a user up and running with our software much faster then a help file or readme which people never seem to look at. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Don't Put Another Dime In The Jukebox
As alluded to in a previous email, a Tactile project featuring bubbles is just about completed: a streaming jukebox which provides access to 14 winter holiday tunes (from a project I worked on several years ago). Yes, the content is out of synch with the season, but if you're feeling overheated by the recent sunny weather (US West Coast), then this collection of music will take you to a cooler place. This stack requires: - Rev 2.1.2 - QuickTime 6 or later - Mango Multimedia's EnhancedQuickTime external (www.mangomultimedia.com) Notable in the jukebox: - streamed music playback with download progress display - custom animated UI - two UI themes (holiday and retro) - Play-O-Matic (autoplay) feature - playback timer - keyboard controllable (though this somewhat defeats the purpose of the UI) - bubbles, of course To access the stack (460k), enter the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/test/demo/jukebox.rev; Please note that this can be a demanding stack in terms of processor use so don't leave any unsaved documents open in Rev, just in case. Reports of any bugs/issues encountered are appreciated. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TSCC license
Trevor DeVore wrote: The Ambrosia videos use the QuickTime Animation codec which isn't a very good delivery codec but it is all QT really had for screen capture. At 100% quality it is lossless but even when you drop the percentage slider down you get larger file sizes then you would with a codec like TSCC. Ensharpen for QT is actually a pretty big deal because QT has not had a screen capture delivery codec while WiMP and Real have for quite some time. The codec has good compression, is lossless and is nice to your CPU (unlike Sorenson). I hear TSCC is good (I look forward to seeing it too, but it won't show the video track on my new G4 laptop). My point is not about the relative merit of one codec over another, but that the technology to deliver useful screen recordings as training materials has been around for years and can be done with readily available tools. In the highly competitive video compression arena it will only continue to get better over time. I just didn't want to leave folks with the impression that a perfect solution being creatable only on Windows would preclude a good solution from being created anywhere. Many companies have been delivering training videos over the Web for quite a while, and a lot of them were done on Macs. Having a lossy codec does not necessarily mean the instructional value will also be lost. Yes, getting the very best quality technology allows can be valuable, but getting results now with the tools at hand can be more so. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Senior Moments
'Senior Moments' (7k) is available at http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm... An example of combining customproperties to store a web page template, printing a temporary file to disk and using the operating system to launch a file. Alternatively, type this in your message box: go url http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk/seniormoments/seniorMoments.mc; Enjoy and have a 'Senior Moment'! /H ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Beta Available of ServerWorkz (a.k.a The revHTTPd Project)
Great and cool ! Thanks, Andre :) Le 9 mars 04, 02:38, Andre Garzia a crit : Hi Folks, I've been fiddling with HTTP and Rev for some time, now and them I posted some news here. Many people visited the server and got interested in the project. Now it's time to release the code. For those that do not know what this project is or what it is able to do, I'll do a quick and dirty resume here. but the best way to learn about it is thru it's about page. Try http://home.soapdog.org:8081/about?card=1 This will take you to a server and possibilities tour, much better and well written than this quick hack here. The stacks are available from http://public.soapdog.org The demo server is running here at http://home.soapdog.org:8081/ Cheers Andre --- What is ServerWorkz/RevHTTPd Project? --- - It's the implementation of a fully functional web server/framework in Revolution. While we do not plan to overtake Apache, we've got some UberCool features that will impresse everyone. This stack is a heavy modified version of old Metacard HTTPd Stack. I stripped out many things but added tons of code too, so You might not recognize it. The server is able to serve local files from the HTML folder and to serve stacks as dynamic pages (lot's of stunts here). Local files may interface to revolution using special Inform2 Tags. Dynamic files might be substacks of the server, local .Rev files inside the Modules folder or any stack that is loaded in runtime (like everything in the IDE...). The server is very advanced and it's even able to transport data from HTML to Stacks automatically. Any stack can be served this way. You can set the server to any port you want and you can even embedd it in your own app (it's just a button to be placed in the back). You can allow it to serve local files or use it only for dynamic content. Server default to port 8081. Sou you can try to access my home server by pointing your browser to http://home.soapdog.org:8081/ --- How To Flush things to the browser --- --- To echo content to the browser you use the http_flush handler, it's like this: http_flush text/html, hello world first parameter is the mime type, the second is the content. Other good function is http_redirect that accepts one parameter and forces a redirection. Use it like: http_redirect http://www.yahoo.com; That will force browser to redirect to Yahoo! Page. --- Understanding what happens inside the server when browser asks for a stack. --- When user connect to the server, it asks for a document. This document might be a local stored file or a stack. In the case of a file it is just flushed to the browser. In case of a stack it's more complex. For your stack to be served it must implement (well, it should implement) the default handler default_html. So suppose you want a helloworld stack, just add this to a stack on default_html http_flush text/html, Hello World! end default_html you'll be able to access this exact script from http://home.soapdog.org:8081/helloworld But that's not all, we've got a cool URL mapping scheme. Let's talk about it. --- About URL Mapping scheme --- --- /Stack--- Send default_html to the stack. /Stack/Message --- Send message to the Stack /Stack/Card/Message --- Send message to card of stack. /Stack/Card/Button/Message--- Send message to button of card of stack (this is like a design decision, messages default to button if no object type is present) /Stack/Card/ObjectType/ObjectName/Msg --- Send msg to obj of card of stack like: /MainStack/1/field/email/clearText (would send clearText to field email) This way I can for example access a URL a button like this http://home.soapdog.org:8081/quotes/2/button/refreshquotes/mouseUp, this would trigger the mouseUp of button adduote on card 2 of stack quotes. Pretty easy! Enought for URLs. The server is now supporting the POST method and GET method, it will look for POST Data and look inside document request URL for GET data... it will map HTML/URL Field names to Revolution Field names, so if I access http://home.soapdog.org:8081/about?card=1 it will look for stack about and for a text field named card in it, if it find one it will fill it with 1, Thats automatic. It fills the fields before sending the message (so that you can proccess them). This way you can write whole web apps just by using our familiar ways of stacks, cards, fields and messages. We created a Revolution Field to Web Engine called Inform2. Inform2 can take any card of any stack and will parse it
Re: Video Tutorials on the Geometry Manager
Snapz Pro X from Ambrosia ($69) does this kind of thing for OS X: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ Snapz Pro came pre-installed with a free license when I purchased my laptop 1.5 years ago. Some list members may have the software and not even know it. J. -- David J. Downs [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clsdesignassociates.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TSCC license
On Mar 9, 2004, at 1:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Trevor DeVore wrote: The Ambrosia videos use the QuickTime Animation codec which isn't a very good delivery codec but it is all QT really had for screen capture. At 100% quality it is lossless but even when you drop the percentage slider down you get larger file sizes then you would with a codec like TSCC. Ensharpen for QT is actually a pretty big deal because QT has not had a screen capture delivery codec while WiMP and Real have for quite some time. The codec has good compression, is lossless and is nice to your CPU (unlike Sorenson). I hear TSCC is good (I look forward to seeing it too, but it won't show the video track on my new G4 laptop). My point is not about the relative merit of one codec over another, but that the technology to deliver useful screen recordings as training materials has been around for years and can be done with readily available tools. In the highly competitive video compression arena it will only continue to get better over time. Sorry Richard, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I've been delivering training materials using the Animation codec for a few years which is why I am excited about the Ensharpen offering. I just didn't want to leave folks with the impression that a perfect solution being creatable only on Windows would preclude a good solution from being created anywhere. Many companies have been delivering training videos over the Web for quite a while, and a lot of them were done on Macs. Definitely. With the release of Snapz Pro 2 the Mac solution got even better. The recording ability of this upgrade is really amazing. Having a lossy codec does not necessarily mean the instructional value will also be lost. Yes, getting the very best quality technology allows can be valuable, but getting results now with the tools at hand can be more so. Agreed, as I mentioned above, I have been working with the current tool set for a while and just really like the new offerings. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spacey players
On Mar 9, 2004, at 1:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I don't mind filing the Bugzilla report. It may take a while to get addressed, but filing the report is the first step. It may help speed things along if you'd pass along the API call so I can add it. It looks like the call: MCDoAction(mc, mcActionSetKeysEnabled, (void *)False); will disable all keyboard events for a movie. I just tested this with a VR and it effectively stopped the SHIFT and CONTROL keys from zooming in/out. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
The problem we have is corporate clients who don't want to install ANYTHING on their workstations in order to run training packages with multimedia content! Thus they say it's OK as long as it uses the standard media facilities in Windows!! Given the variations in Windows standards for media, this is nothing short of a joke, but it's what they say! On a windows computer, you are sure that Internet Explorer AND the Flash plugin are installed, they are standard media facilities in windows. I dont remember exactly, but i believe that Internet Explorer is delivered with Flash plugin 4. You have to check that by your customers. If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. I use altBrowser to replace the player object and sometime even the field object (when i need a better typographical layout than with a field but i dont need interactivity with the content of the field). You have nothing to install, just reference the dll in your stack and deliver the dll in the same folder as your stack. Of course the interactivity must be programmed in the flash movie because there is no communication between the flash movie and your stack. Claude ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
Ken, Don't forget you are working with a compressed image in that stack!! Remember what happened when you tried to open in PS. I got a file over 40 MB when opened in PS from your pdf file. That may be what you are up against. REV's print functions or the printers maybe trying to decompress the image. Try a screen shot 'from within REV' onto a new card and print that. See if it works. HTH Tom On Mar 9, 2004, at 2:30 AM, Ken Norris wrote: Howdy, Something is drastically wrong. I got my stack sized down for printing, but the printer goes a little over half way and stops, and my Mac locks up. It happens every time, (4 times) although sometimes it doesn't get that far. I just checked the printer handling another file, the same size as the card, a little over 400k. No problem. It's definitely not the printer. I'm not a happy camper here. What is happening that would cause a crash every time when trying to print a card? This is the first crashing situation I've had with Rev for awhile, but it's a bad one. Please help. Now I'm afraid to try printing anything with Rev. TIA, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Hi Claude Thanks for the suggestion. On a windows computer, you are sure that Internet Explorer AND the Flash plugin are installed, they are standard media facilities in windows. I dont remember exactly, but i believe that Internet Explorer is delivered with Flash plugin 4. You have to check that by your customers. True, this is what I mean about the standard Windows install - it isn't standard and is likely to be an old version!! If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. I use altBrowser to replace the player object and sometime even the field object (when i need a better typographical layout than with a field but i dont need interactivity with the content of the field). You have nothing to install, just reference the dll in your stack and deliver the dll in the same folder as your stack. Of course the interactivity must be programmed in the flash movie because there is no communication between the flash movie and your stack. Claude Thanks for the tip. However, I'd need a Mac version as well (which is under consideration, but NOT under development as far as I know). Also, it's not clear how much it would cost to deploy a single program to many 100s of users at a corporate client location, would this cost me $30/$45 per seat? The web page: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altBrowser.htm doesn't really give such licensing details. Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
On 3/9/04 1:48 AM, Peter Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want my clips to appear within a Rev window with other components on display, not as part of a separate floating window/app. Also, I would need to get agreement to install the Flash Player as a separate app anyway. But the main point is that I want the video clips as part of my app not separate to it. I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 Regards, Scott Rossi As I understand it, I'd have to launch the Flash standalone player in order to play Flash clips from Rev. Rev itself ONLY supports Flash IF you have QuickTime, which is my problem - corporate world's total aversion to installing QuickTime!! If I launch a separate player then is can appear anywhere on screen obscuring my Rev window and I can't control it or determine its progress. Also, if you play a Flash file (swf) directly from Rev, you can't control it in the same way as a QT file - no easy stop/start/drag etc. However if you make a QT file with an EMBEDDED Flash track, then you get the benefits of Flash with the controllability of QT! This works VERY well. I have a single QT clip with three embedded tracks - Flash video, QT sound, QT text caption. I can now enable/disable any of these to provide whatever combination is required. Unfortunately all this good stuff ONLY works with QT, which my corporate clients won't install!! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 As I understand it, I'd have to launch the Flash standalone player in order to play Flash clips from Rev. Rev itself ONLY supports Flash IF you have QuickTime, which is my problem - corporate world's total aversion to installing QuickTime!! If I launch a separate player then is can appear anywhere on screen obscuring my Rev window and I can't control it or determine its progress. OK but what I'm saying is, if you're at the mercy of your corporate client, why not create the entire set of media and deliver in Flash, using one (Flash) player. Sure it might be easier to use Rev, but from what you're describing it sounds like that's not an option for you. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 12:30 AM, Ken Norris wrote: Something is drastically wrong. I got my stack sized down for printing, but the printer goes a little over half way and stops, and my Mac locks up. It happens every time, (4 times) although sometimes it doesn't get that far. Are you referencing an image? I think there is a bug. There is a workaround in the bugzilla entry. I think I saw it will be fixed soon. I also have an occasional crash on OS X, so that may be something different. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to open a window in the Finder please?
Le 9.3.2004 10:58, Klaus Major à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: What may I do without you Klaus?:-) Thank you!!! Bon jour François, Hello! Is it possible to open a window in the finder from a button on the card? In fact, I want to put on my card a button whos says show Folder Résultats in Finder (of course, the label's button will be shorter!:-) Thank you very much every body! This littel handler will open a folder just like doubleclicked in the finder... You just have to supply the path to the folder you want to be opended. on apfelschreib pfad replace / with : in pfad put tell application quote Finder quote cr activate cr open quote (pfad) quote cr end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript end apfelschreib Applescript is needed, of course... This one will show and select a file in a finderwindow, in case you need this one, too ;-) Here the complete path to the file has to be supplied on apfelschreib pfad set the itemdel to / put item -1 of pfad into datei delete item -1 of pfad replace / with : in pfad put tell application quote Finder quote cr activate cr reveal quote (pfad) quote cr end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript end apfelschreib Hope that helps... Amicalement François Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Amicalement François -- François Cuneo Au Champ du Pré 1353 Bofflens e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Cuk New Technologies, programmes éducatifs pour Mac: http://www.cuk.ch Web CUK, humeurs et tests sur le mac: http://www.cuk.ch/articles Tél: ++41 (024) 441.17.81 Fax: ++41 (024) 441.17.05 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to open a window in the Finder please?
Bon jour Francois, Le 9.3.2004 10:58, Klaus Major à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: What may I do without you Klaus?:-) Is this a rhetorical question? ;-) Thank you!!! A votre service, monsieur! Amicalement François Au revoir Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
OK but what I'm saying is, if you're at the mercy of your corporate client, why not create the entire set of media and deliver in Flash, using one (Flash) player. Sure it might be easier to use Rev, but from what you're describing it sounds like that's not an option for you. Regards, Scott Rossi The main app has quizzes and questionnaires, data written back to a corporate database, printing of certificates and feedback forms etc, password controlled user access with use look-up from corporate database, user tracking over years, etc. So the video clips are just a part of the product, the rest of which definitely needs Rev-type capabilities - straight Flash isn't good enough for everything, only the media stuff. I just wish I could get past the corporate white stick that stops them seeing anything other than vanilla Microsoft stuff! I haven't completely dismissed the idea of a floating media window using the standalone Flash player, but it's definitely not my first choice and will be a much harder sell to the client who's funding this product development! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spacey players
Trevor DeVore wrote: It looks like the call: MCDoAction(mc, mcActionSetKeysEnabled, (void *)False); will disable all keyboard events for a movie. I just tested this with a VR and it effectively stopped the SHIFT and CONTROL keys from zooming in/out. Excellent -- thank you. Posted to Bugzilla: #1337. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Thanks for the tip. However, I'd need a Mac version as well (which is under consideration, but NOT under development as far as I know). Hi Peter, Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately, there is not a Mac version at this time. We're hoping to have the browser embedded into the RR engine in a future release. No timetable set yet. Also, it's not clear how much it would cost to deploy a single program to many 100s of users at a corporate client location, would this cost me $30/$45 per seat? The web page: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altBrowser.htm doesn't really give such licensing details. That's my fault. With altBrowser, you pay only once and you can distribute it with any of your standalones as many times as you like royalty free. The only thing we ask is you not 'resell' it to other developers -- they should purchase their own copy:-) I need to put a real license up there. best, Chipp Cheers Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 02:30 AM, Ken Norris wrote: What is happening that would cause a crash every time when trying to print a card? I've had cases where suddenly a card would just start crashing on printing. It was previously working and I hadn't made any changes to it. It just started crashing. My only conclusion was that somehow it became corrupt (I know there's a lot of controversy over this term). So, if the other suggestions don't help, one thing that worked for me was to make a new card, copy all the controls and scripts to that card, and delete the bad card. Regards, Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Metacard standalone_builder.mc
I have located a stack called standalone_builder.mc from the Metacard discussion group. I am wonder a similar method of creating standalones cannot be used for the console/shell/text version of metacard. Are the engines so significantly different that the necessary support is not in the engine? Kevin -==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=- Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Don't Put Another Dime In The Jukebox
Scott, Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 00:27:03 -0800 From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANN] Don't Put Another Dime In The Jukebox As alluded to in a previous email, a Tactile project featuring bubbles is just about completed: a streaming jukebox which provides access to 14 winter holiday tunes (from a project I worked on several years ago). --- The Bubbles display is wonderful. Congrats!! Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Touchscreen technology
Back from India, Fantastic trip. I guess it's obvious that a long running Revolution process/interface, should make an ideal backend for a touchscreen-kiosk application. If any of you have experience with , or are into touch screen technology and are willing to share the twenty dos and don'ts and best of show touch screen monitors with us, we would really appreciate it. Of course I can surf the net and google for this but, nothing like experience. email me off list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
That's my fault. With altBrowser, you pay only once and you can distribute it with any of your standalones as many times as you like royalty free. The only thing we ask is you not 'resell' it to other developers -- they should purchase their own copy:-) I need to put a real license up there. best, Chipp Thanks Chipp, that makes it clear, all I need now is a Mac version ;) Best regards Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looking for someone familiar with OS 9 Externals
Hi, I'm looking for someone who would be immediately available to create a CodeWarrior project for my QuickTime external http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/enhancedqt.html that needs to be compiled for OS 9. I need it for a project I am working on and am at a loss as to how to do this for OS 9. Please contact me off-list for more details. Thanks, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sockets
I am trying to put together some socket code on Windows. The documentation seems clear but there are a couple things that are not as I expected and a simple example would go a long way. Does anyone have such a thing handy? Just a simple accept/connect, send/receive, close example. -Paul ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DVD for RunRev?
--- Ian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But only for short-term use, if you are backing up much stuff or archiving then HDs are just going to cost too much. And would you really trust it to be uncorrupted when you connect it up five years later? Drives are much handier, but also much more fragile, dropping a DVD in a case is not going to have the same catastrophic effect as dropping the external drive. In other words, short-term backup on a drive yes, but for longer term backup DVD or tape is likely to work out much cheaper and more reliable. this is shocking news. i thought tape was the worst. At the moment there ARE no other practical options for video if you want to play it on a computer. There are a lot of people out there who don't have broadband access, and even if they do it'll take a day or two to download a DVD-quality movie. thanks for the info advice. looks like buying the built in DVD burner is a good investment. the Powerbook page is confusing in that you can get a $2600 SuperDrive 15 or a $2000 ComboDrive 15. then the $2000 model gives you the option of getting the SuperDrive drive for $200 more. same term on different logical levels. nor is it clear that the extra $200 buys iDVD... then there are all of the external DVD burners from $100 to $1000. more to learn. it never stops, does it? = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Has anyone had any success using the MCISendString feature of Rev to control playback of a videoclip under Win without using QuickTime? Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
--- Claude Lemmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. any duration constraints on the video? = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: TSCC license
I was set up for a laugh by the heading of the non-capitalised text, WITNESSETH. It's not in either of my dictionaries, and www.dictionary.com has no entries. Good fun, but it leads to some interesting questions. If a legal document contains a made-up word without definition can it have a legal meaning? Michael, witnesseth it's not a made-up word, it's old English for witnesses (which is why it's not in dictionary.com). Goes along with thou, thine, doeth, heareth, seeth, etc. Just FYI, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
On 3/9/04 4:51 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... But yet, one doesn't need to worry about lack of QuickTime on a Mac... :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Touchscreen technology
Sannyasin, you're right, Metacard/rev is a great solution for kiosks, I've done quite a few of them in the last decade. the main touch screen manufacturers are elographics and microtouch (think they are still around, maybe merged with 3M?). they buy monitors and slap the touch screen membrane on the screen. there are two kinds of technology, one is a membrane that is placed over the screen and the other just uses sound waves that travel over the surface of the monitor (or a piece of glass mounted in front of it) to determine the touch point. there are a few other touchscreen manufactures out there also, most more specialized to atms and such. flat screens now mean you dont have the huge clunky monitor in your kiosk! elographics sells a number of different kinds of monitors with touch screens installed or you can buy the touch screen and slap it on your own monitor. this takes a lot of fiddling and is not recommended unless you like to get good with your dremel tool! another company ive used is trolltouch also very good at integrating touch screens onto all sorts of monitors and computers, especially imacs and emacs. the emacs make a great standalone solution in environments where you dont have a viscous public. another company who makes a great stand for emacs and other kiosk solutions is pearlson. http://www.trolltouch.com/ http://www.pearlson.com/ http://www.ezscreen.com/ some things to think about on the kiosk interfaces: you will need larger type since folks will be standing farther away look at the ADA guidelines so that it has handicap access (mainly wheel chair with height and tilt) make sure all buttons are at least 3/4 square or larger for those fat fingers to hit dont have users try to do pulldown menus. if you need typing input then just make a keyboard on the screen for input via the touchscreen, dont use a keyboard. yell if you have any questions, ive been around this tree many times. cheers, jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 3/9/04 7:52 PM I guess it's obvious that a long running Revolution process/interface, should make an ideal backend for a touchscreen-kiosk application. If any of you have experience with , or are into touch screen technology and are willing to share the twenty dos and don'ts and best of show touch screen monitors with us, we would really appreciate it. Of course I can surf the net and google for this but, nothing like experience. email me off list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Jeffrey H. Reynolds 6620 Michaels Dr. Bethesda, MD 20817 301.469.8562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
on 3/9/04 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:08:39 -0700 From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Crashing with print card On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 12:30 AM, Ken Norris wrote: Something is drastically wrong. I got my stack sized down for printing, but the printer goes a little over half way and stops, and my Mac locks up. It happens every time, (4 times) although sometimes it doesn't get that far. Are you referencing an image? I think there is a bug. There is a workaround in the bugzilla entry. I think I saw it will be fixed soon. I also have an occasional crash on OS X, so that may be something different. It gets much, much worse! I had the stack working properly today, then I saved it and tried a print routine that uses a snapshot. I essentially imported a snapshot of the first card, cut the image, created a card, and pasted it into that card. Then I printed that card. This worked (except for a few minor margin problems.) However, I didn't want to keep the card, so I deleted it. Guess what happened? -- It wiped out the entire stack. I had been saving right along, so I closed and removed from memory. Then I opened it from the file, and got the same thing. Totally wiped stack. A day's work GONE. I rebuilt the stack from scratch and did even more saves. This time I went through the print procedure by hand and got a print. When I went to save the stack again, it wiped itself out AGAIN. Another 3 hours of work wasted. How can this be? I wish someone could explain to me why this is happening? I'm very close to giving up. In OS 9, how much memory should I allocate to Rev? I know the file is good sized, but nowhere near enough to be causing these problems. Also, why would printing a card need to know anything more than the screen info? It seems to be trying to fit the whole image file in there for no reason I can think of. Has to be a bug. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
Ken, I am sorry for what you are going through. It has to be very frustrating. If there is anything I can do please email me. If you can send me your stack I will be glad to test it and play around with it. 2 heads are better than one - sometimes.. Let me know if I can help. Tom On Mar 9, 2004, at 9:36 PM, Ken Norris wrote: on 3/9/04 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:08:39 -0700 From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Crashing with print card On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 12:30 AM, Ken Norris wrote: Something is drastically wrong. I got my stack sized down for printing, but the printer goes a little over half way and stops, and my Mac locks up. It happens every time, (4 times) although sometimes it doesn't get that far. Are you referencing an image? I think there is a bug. There is a workaround in the bugzilla entry. I think I saw it will be fixed soon. I also have an occasional crash on OS X, so that may be something different. It gets much, much worse! I had the stack working properly today, then I saved it and tried a print routine that uses a snapshot. I essentially imported a snapshot of the first card, cut the image, created a card, and pasted it into that card. Then I printed that card. This worked (except for a few minor margin problems.) However, I didn't want to keep the card, so I deleted it. Guess what happened? -- It wiped out the entire stack. I had been saving right along, so I closed and removed from memory. Then I opened it from the file, and got the same thing. Totally wiped stack. A day's work GONE. I rebuilt the stack from scratch and did even more saves. This time I went through the print procedure by hand and got a print. When I went to save the stack again, it wiped itself out AGAIN. Another 3 hours of work wasted. How can this be? I wish someone could explain to me why this is happening? I'm very close to giving up. In OS 9, how much memory should I allocate to Rev? I know the file is good sized, but nowhere near enough to be causing these problems. Also, why would printing a card need to know anything more than the screen info? It seems to be trying to fit the whole image file in there for no reason I can think of. Has to be a bug. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Don't Put Another Dime In The Jukebox
Very slickThanks! -Mark Talluto On Mar 9, 2004, at 12:27 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: As alluded to in a previous email, a Tactile project featuring bubbles is just about completed: a streaming jukebox which provides access to 14 winter holiday tunes (from a project I worked on several years ago). Yes, the content is out of synch with the season, but if you're feeling overheated by the recent sunny weather (US West Coast), then this collection of music will take you to a cooler place. This stack requires: - Rev 2.1.2 - QuickTime 6 or later - Mango Multimedia's EnhancedQuickTime external (www.mangomultimedia.com) Notable in the jukebox: - streamed music playback with download progress display - custom animated UI - two UI themes (holiday and retro) - Play-O-Matic (autoplay) feature - playback timer - keyboard controllable (though this somewhat defeats the purpose of the UI) - bubbles, of course To access the stack (460k), enter the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/test/demo/jukebox.rev; Please note that this can be a demanding stack in terms of processor use so don't leave any unsaved documents open in Rev, just in case. Reports of any bugs/issues encountered are appreciated. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
This is off the top of my head, but hopefully it helps. It basically just expects 1 line of input over the socket, and then echos it back. Note that you don't have to use the with message syntax, but if you don't then your program will block when doing reads and writes from the socket, which is bad if you need to handle multiple connections. on startServer portNum accept connections on port portNum with message newConnect end startServer on stopServer portNum close socket (portNum) on stopServer on newConnect s read from s for 1 line with message firstLine end newConnect on firstLine s,data write GOT IT::data to socket s with message doneWriting end firstLine on doneWriting s close socket s end doneWriting on socketTimeout s ## a read or write timed out on this socket end socketTimeout on socketError s ## some other socket-related error end socketError I am trying to put together some socket code on Windows. The documentation seems clear but there are a couple things that are not as I expected and a simple example would go a long way. Does anyone have such a thing handy? Just a simple accept/connect, send/receive, close example. - Brian Yennie Chief Technology Officer QLD Learning, LLC (941)-362-3199 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CGI putting stack in use limitations
Aloha, First to Jacqueline, Rodney and Monte and every one else contributing in this area. Thank you! Question: looking through the Intro to Rev CGI's presentation notes that you did, Jacqueline, we don't see any disclaimer on the the possible issues arising from opening stacks with huge amounts of data. (maybe i missed it) libCGI is touted as able to handle any number of stack and CGI's. I presume, correct me if I am wrong, that, say if we installed rev on a managed dedicated server on some host's farm with only 256K RAM (yes, people are still running and trying to sell machines with that little memory!) and we were to start using stack tooMuchData.rev ## being a stack that was 500 K in size, which is nothing for this G4 titanium... the server would attempt to load the full 500K of stack data into memory and that, we would sink the ship... am I wrong? What exactly would happen? I suspect the answer is Well of course, if you do something stupid like that I guess the question behind the question is bigger: just how far can we take this... using only xTalk and not bothering with mySQL or PostGreSQL, forget LAMP... before we see performance problems that only a macho relational database can handle. but it hardly seems worth it to get my head wrapped around PostGreSQL when we're just try to serve up 500-1000 K of text data. That's not a lot. For example, a real world application that would interest us: create an on-line lexicon of all the words in all the books we have published by Himalayan Academy Publications with definitions, references see also links etc. I have few options: either build 26 html pages, one for each letter of the alphabet... then, use HTDIG to index those pages and well, it's just too painful and unmaintainable... delegate this tedious work to some poor soul to work on for a week or two... if the book editors say oh gee, we updated these words... then suddenly 20 man hours of work becomes 21 hours of work... on the other hand doing an XML dump of each books glossary from InDesign and parsing that into a stack is as easy as sweet lassie (water, yogurt, honey, touch of salt and lime juice, two cubes of ice ;-) put the stack on the server and then what... start using it and sink the ship.? OK. so, scratch my head. output CVS and upload to a mySQL dbase and build a rev front end and tell users to download a desktop app and forget their browser... that also has problems... mostly the download special app resistance factor, aside from using a macho dbase for such a limited record set. The cgi access to stack data with a dynamic page build response via browser to queries, seems so cool maintainable, editable, for small data sets, but the challenge of loading the whole stack into memory is there. Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI putting stack in use limitations
For this particular application, what about just splitting the lexicon into several stacks, alphabetically? Encyclopedia style. For example, to lookup revolution and database: start using stack da-de doSomeLookup database stop using stack da-de start using stack ra-rg doSomeLookup revolution stop using stack ra-rg The trick being of course that you don't want to load your entire database into memory if your database doesn't fit in memory- and you can dynamically load portions at a time using start/stop using. HTH Brian For example, a real world application that would interest us: create an on-line lexicon of all the words in all the books we have published by Himalayan Academy Publications with definitions, references see also links etc. I have few options: either build 26 html pages, one for each letter of the alphabet... then, use HTDIG to index those pages and well, it's just too painful and unmaintainable... delegate this tedious work to some poor soul to work on for a week or two... if the book editors say oh gee, we updated these words... then suddenly 20 man hours of work becomes 21 hours of work... on the other hand doing an XML dump of each books glossary from InDesign and parsing that into a stack is as easy as sweet lassie (water, yogurt, honey, touch of salt and lime juice, two cubes of ice ;-) put the stack on the server and then what... start using it and sink the ship.? OK. so, scratch my head. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing with print card
Thanks, Tom, Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:49:16 -0500 From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Crashing with print card I am sorry for what you are going through. It has to be very frustrating. Yeah, really had me tearing what little hair I have left out. If there is anything I can do please email me. If you can send me your stack I will be glad to test it and play around with it. 2 heads are better than one - sometimes.. Let me know if I can help. Thank you sir, I appreciate that. The main thing is, I want to know why these things happen. Maybe if I can recognize oncoming disaster I can't put on the brakes, make some extra copies to my backup flash cards, before it hits the wall. (sigh) Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode
(I'm speaking here in my capacity as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) We need some input on using Unicode in Revolution from people with practical experience. If you are using Unicode in Rev, please contact me off-list. regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Image to back
Ken Norris wrote: I want the image to go to the back layer before it gets displayed, such that a button group with background behavior is always out front and clickable. set the layer of last image to 1 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. any duration constraints on the video? I did not test. But as Flash streams the video, i guess that there is no constrain about the length of the video. The constrain is that you have to open in the same time the Rev engine, the IExplorer engine and the Flash engine. That works well on standard computer, but i could be difficult on computers very low on memory. Claude ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
