Re: linkclick problem (was terminate script from keyboard)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here I am in my own monologue! I found the problem and 2 bugs... HTML without a CR after a causes 2 bugs... 1> setting the dont wrap will make a very very long line that is not wrapped and which overprints itself over and over! 2> causes problems resolving the linkclicked message... Bugzilla loves me! ;) So do we: excellent diagnostic work! Thanks for pinning that down. I'm sure having that bug resolved will help a lot of other developers down the road. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How do I retrieve MIDI input?
Have you looked at MidiPipe? http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10541 It has an AppleScript Trigger that might help (I don't know much about Midi, but found this after a search)... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Weise, Christopher > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:38 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: How do I retrieve MIDI input? > > > Hello, > > I'm a two-year list-lurker and rev user, coming from a 10 > year attachment to HyperCard. I finally have a question for > which I can find no solution from the list and/or docs. (I've > read numerous MIDI threads, but they seem to deal with > output--formatting MIDI files, playing back through QT, etc.) > > I want to capture raw MIDI input from an external source > (typically a MIDI keyboard), connected via USB. I cannot > assure that users will have access to a USB-serial converter. > On Macs, I want to be able to go through CoreMIDI; on PC, I > don't know yet (Mac version comes first...). The old > HyperMIDI externals don't seem to work, at least in OSX. > > Should/Can I: > 1. Learn to write an external with my scripting-only (very > meager outside of > HyperTalk) programming experience? > > 2. Use AppleScript and/or AppleEvents? > > 3. Uncover some script, external, or other solution I've missed? > > 4. Find another alternative altogether? > > 5. Give up? > > Does anyone do this, or (perhaps) know of an apple-scriptable > MIDI utility from which I could retrieve the data and deal > with it in Rev (only way I can think to do it...)? Thanks for > any and all sage advice. > > > --- > Chris Weise > Music and Fine Arts > Johnson C. Smith University > Charlotte, NC > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How do I retrieve MIDI input?
Ken, I can't help you for the Mac but for the PC, you can use MIDI-OX which can do all you want with MIDI including merging different inputs (USB or MIDI) into any number of channels... Output is also possible naturally... http://www.midiox.com enjoy Xavier On 21.05.2004 09:30:05 use-revolution-bounces wrote: >Have you looked at MidiPipe? > >http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10541 > >It has an AppleScript Trigger that might help (I don't know much about Midi, >but found this after a search)... > >Ken Ray >Sons of Thunder Software >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Weise, Christopher >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:38 PM >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> Subject: How do I retrieve MIDI input? >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm a two-year list-lurker and rev user, coming from a 10 >> year attachment to HyperCard. I finally have a question for >> which I can find no solution from the list and/or docs. (I've >> read numerous MIDI threads, but they seem to deal with >> output--formatting MIDI files, playing back through QT, etc.) >> >> I want to capture raw MIDI input from an external source >> (typically a MIDI keyboard), connected via USB. I cannot >> assure that users will have access to a USB-serial converter. >> On Macs, I want to be able to go through CoreMIDI; on PC, I >> don't know yet (Mac version comes first...). The old >> HyperMIDI externals don't seem to work, at least in OSX. >> >> Should/Can I: >> 1. Learn to write an external with my scripting-only (very >> meager outside of >> HyperTalk) programming experience? >> >> 2. Use AppleScript and/or AppleEvents? >> >> 3. Uncover some script, external, or other solution I've missed? >> >> 4. Find another alternative altogether? >> >> 5. Give up? >> >> Does anyone do this, or (perhaps) know of an apple-scriptable >> MIDI utility from which I could retrieve the data and deal >> with it in Rev (only way I can think to do it...)? Thanks for >> any and all sage advice. >> >> >> --- >> Chris Weise >> Music and Fine Arts >> Johnson C. Smith University >> Charlotte, NC >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > >___ >use-revolution mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
Before I bugzilla this, I wanted to check to see if anyone else has hit this snag and whether there is a work-around for it. I have stack that opens a tool palete. I want the palette to disappear when the stack is not frontmost, and reappear when it is. I scripted a suspendStack handler and a resumeStack handler to manage this: on suspendStack hide palette "myPalette" end suspendStack on resumeStack show palette "myPalette" end resumeStack This works exactly every other time the stack is suspended; that is, the first time it hides, the second time it doesn't. In addition, the times when the palette is reshown, it is not redrawn and appears on screen as a plain white rectangle with no contents. "Go this card of stack myPalette" from the message box will force a redraw and the contents appear. After reading that "palette" above was a miss in email, I have verified that the same occurs under OS9. When the palette is hidden, it always shows. However, when it is showing, it hides only on every other switch. From watching messages, I see that the suspendStack is sent one time to the palette stack and another time to the other stack. It seems that when the palette shows first time, it remains the defaultstack so the next suspend will go to it. This happens even if I just click the palette to generate suspend/resume. Sounds like engine bug. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: terminate script from keyboard
Hi Xavier! I just built a test stack with a single button and a single fld on Windows XP. In the button script I put: on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 end repeat end mouseUp I can interrupt the script by pressing Ctrl-period -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins shut when suspending dev
Hi Sarah, Yep, all my plugins kick out also, the same way. I just don't typically suspend the IDE :-) -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Frontscript to simulate modal dialog
Hi, I tried Sarah's suggestion of creating a frontscript that would allow a progress dialog to act like a modal dialog does (can't bring other windows to the front, etc.). Here's the script I tried: on mouseDown put the rect of window "Thumbnail Progress" into theRect -- this is the progress dialog window put the screenMouseLoc into theLoc if theLoc is within theRect then pass mouseDown else beep end if end mouseDown For some reason this doesn't seem to work. I hear the beeps, but it doesn't seem to stop the mouseDown's from going to other windows, e.g. I can still bring other windows to the front. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: terminate script from keyboard
Chipp, You had to say that to make it work here! Problem fixed! I swear I tested this as hard as I could... There goes reality again! BUT: sometimes the errors reported are not always "Aborted" ... Im not going to test this further but thanks! So has anyone found how to resolve menu shortcut conflicts yet? ;) On 21.05.2004 12:14:23 use-revolution-bounces wrote: >Hi Xavier! > >I just built a test stack with a single button and a single fld on >Windows XP. > >In the button script I put: > >on mouseUp >repeat 10 times >put "hello" & cr after fld 1 >end repeat >end mouseUp > >I can interrupt the script by pressing Ctrl-period > >-Chipp > > >___ >use-revolution mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Synchronized scrolling fields
Thanks for responding, Sarah and Ken. Greg Sarah, Yes, only the data field will have scroll bars. Your suggestion generally works fine for synchronized vertical scrolling, although some additional tinkering with the handler is required to deal with the field being emptied and data replaced from time to time. But I was never able to get it to work properly with horizontal scrolling, at least not in MetaCard; perhaps it's different in Revolution. If I remember correctly, it was suggested that separate scroll controls be used rather than the two that would otherwise be attached to the data field. I imagine this has to do with properly matching the dimensions of the three fields which in turn depends on the space taken up by the data, and that, as I mentioned, will be changing. This has to do with using the "effective" property for text or line height. From Sarah: I am assuming that only the data field has scroll bars? In that case, it just needs a scrollBarDrag handler that sets the vScroll of the line numbers field to it's own vScroll and the hScroll of the column labels field to it's hScroll. Ken, I don't quite follow you here. The data field does have a vertical grid, but I want the equivalent of a fixed or locked first line and first column to be column and row labels respectively. So, not matter how far down or across a user scrolls, they can always identify the row and column they're viewing by looking at the labels. The labels themselves can be hypertext that trigger handlers to sort the data. And from Ken: Greg, unless you want different alignments in each field, you can use one field with tabstops and set the vGrid property to true on the field. Put your data in tab-delimited and it will truncate at the column boundaries. Presto! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
OK, here was the situation I originally had the problem with; I have added one line to Chipp's script. How would you stop this? on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 answer "hello" end repeat end mouseUp -Paul -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:14 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard Hi Xavier! I just built a test stack with a single button and a single fld on Windows XP. In the button script I put: on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 end repeat end mouseUp I can interrupt the script by pressing Ctrl-period -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
Paul, You dont... you click 1 times OK... With some luck, you get QuickKeys to do it for you... ;) On the old HyperCard IDE you could press cmd-. when you had teh mousedown in the OK button which would get executed as a queued event after the mouse went up... (Does it work on Macs today?) No such luck here. I've mentioned (screamed it was actually) this one on Scott a couple years ago... Scripting the RR IDE can be hazardous to your nerves... -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 "Springer, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21.05.2004 14:40 Please respond to How to use Revolution To: 'How to use Revolution' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: terminate script from keyboard . OK, here was the situation I originally had the problem with; I have added one line to Chipp's script. How would you stop this? on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 answer "hello" end repeat end mouseUp -Paul -Original Message- From: Chipp Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:14 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: terminate script from keyboard Hi Xavier! I just built a test stack with a single button and a single fld on Windows XP. In the button script I put: on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 end repeat end mouseUp I can interrupt the script by pressing Ctrl-period -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Embedded?
If RunRev wants to make some money, they should develop a Pocket PC version of the engine. They bought the embedded technology, so why not put it to use? At least on Linux embedded PDAs! By the way, can anyone from RunRev comment on the state of the embedded offerings? I may be interested... JR ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
>OK, here was the situation I originally had the problem with; I have added >one line to Chipp's script. How would you stop this? > >on mouseUp > repeat 10 times > put "hello" & cr after fld 1 > answer "hello" > end repeat >end mouseUp Force quit, or add a keydown test in the loop. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
How would you stop this? on mouseUp repeat 10 times put "hello" & cr after fld 1 answer "hello" end repeat end mouseUp 1. on mouseUp repeat 10 put "hello"&return after field 1 answer "hello" with "Goodbye" or "Hi back" if it is "Goodbye" then exit repeat end repeat end mouseUp 2. on mouseUp repeat 10 put "hello"&return after field 1 answer "hello" if the controlKey is down then exit repeat -- untested; should exit -- if controlKey is down when the answer dialog is closed end repeat end mouseUp -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: terminate script from keyboard
Thanks to all for the suggestions. Of course my original problem was how to get out of a situation like this when you inadvertently coded it. Changing the script to provide an escape hatch is easily done after the fact but I'm afraid I don't usually plan my bugs so carefully. What I was asking for is a way to get out of this kind of unplanned situation short of killing RR and losing any unsaved changes. So far the consensus seems to be that you can't. -Paul -Original Message- From: Rob Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:03 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: RE: terminate script from keyboard >How would you stop this? >> >>on mouseUp >>repeat 10 times >> put "hello" & cr after fld 1 >> answer "hello" >>end repeat >>end mouseUp 1. on mouseUp repeat 10 put "hello"&return after field 1 answer "hello" with "Goodbye" or "Hi back" if it is "Goodbye" then exit repeat end repeat end mouseUp 2. on mouseUp repeat 10 put "hello"&return after field 1 answer "hello" if the controlKey is down then exit repeat -- untested; should exit -- if controlKey is down when the answer dialog is closed end repeat end mouseUp -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
deleting lines from a text file
I've experimented a bit with attempting to delete lines from a text file. The following simple script should readily allow the deletion of a line, no?? -- on mouseUp answer file "what file?" put "file:" & it into theFile delete line 2 of url theFile end mouseUp This produces an error of type "chunk," with the specific message: "can't find object." Things work fine if you change "delete" to "put empty into", but that creates the problem that some of you have pointed out, ie, that the delimiter is not deleted. Could someone else verify this, so that I know it's a bug and not bad karma :-)? Thanks. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: html tag for page break?
On 5/20/04 9:34 PM, Pat Trendler wrote: Thanks for your help Mark. I already have the text from the fields in a variable. I don't want to restrict the printed page to a certain number of lines, but I want to force a new page after a particular field has been printed. Use: "print break" after printing the card contents. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
On 5/21/04 3:26 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Before I bugzilla this, I wanted to check to see if anyone else has hit this snag and whether there is a work-around for it. I have stack that opens a tool palete. I want the palette to disappear when the stack is not frontmost, and reappear when it is. I scripted a suspendStack handler and a resumeStack handler to manage this: on suspendStack hide palette "myPalette" end suspendStack on resumeStack show palette "myPalette" end resumeStack This works exactly every other time the stack is suspended; that is, the first time it hides, the second time it doesn't. In addition, the times when the palette is reshown, it is not redrawn and appears on screen as a plain white rectangle with no contents. "Go this card of stack myPalette" from the message box will force a redraw and the contents appear. After reading that "palette" above was a miss in email, I have verified that the same occurs under OS9. When the palette is hidden, it always shows. However, when it is showing, it hides only on every other switch. From watching messages, I see that the suspendStack is sent one time to the palette stack and another time to the other stack. It seems that when the palette shows first time, it remains the defaultstack so the next suspend will go to it. This happens even if I just click the palette to generate suspend/resume. Sounds like engine bug. I spent all day on this yesterday, tried everything, and could not create a viable solution. (By the way, I notice in the Rev docs that the same "palette" misprint is in there, so I'm not the only one. It's a natural typo, but it does generate an error. The correct syntax, of course, is 'show/hide stack mypalette". But I digress...) I did learn a few things while experimenting. The all-white empty palette I was seeing was probably caused by locking messages before showing or hiding the palette. I was trying this as a potential solution which didn't work. Apparently if you lock messages before changing the state of the palette, the palette contents do not draw. I tried inserting various resumestack/suspendstack handlers in the palette itself, both as blocking handlers or as functional handlers with commands. Blocking both messages seemed to help a bit, but didn't completely solve the problem. I tried so many other things too that I can't list them all here. I've reported it in Bugzilla, though I am not yet completely convinced it is a real bug. I did an awful lot of testing to see what messages were being generated from which stack, and what I was getting looked correct. I just can't find a way to use those messages to get the behavior I need. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
Recently, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: >>> I have stack that opens a tool palete. I want the palette to disappear >>> when the stack is not frontmost, and reappear when it is. I scripted a >>> suspendStack handler and a resumeStack handler to manage this: >>> >>> on suspendStack >>> hide palette "myPalette" >>> end suspendStack >>> >>> on resumeStack >>> show palette "myPalette" >>> end resumeStack >>> >>> This works exactly every other time the stack is suspended; that is, >>> the first time it hides, the second time it doesn't. > I spent all day on this yesterday, tried everything, and could not > create a viable solution. You've thrown down the gauntlet -- this sounds like a good challenge. Can you explain why the palette needs to disappear when not top most? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imported Video Clip Won't Play
Thank you, Pierre. Your solution works. I seem to be having other problems with this particular file which is not RunRev related. It seems that I can import this file into Quicktime Pro and export it to a ".mov" file OK, but if I then try to edit the converted file, I lose the sound. Thanks for your help, Roger Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:16:13 +0200 From: Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Imported Video Clip Won't Play To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Roger, Does the "Movie.mpg" open under QuickTime Payer ? If yes, save it, under QT Pro or equivalent, as "Movie.mov" or as "Movie.mp4". Than, it will run OK from your Rev's player :) Best, Pierre Le 20 mai 04, à 21:01, Roger Guay a écrit : Hello List I have a one card stack into which I imported a QuickTime video clip titled "Movie.mpg". On the card I have a button with a mouseUp handler and the line: "play videoClip "Movie.mpg" at 200, 100". All I get is about 2 minutes of the rotating color wheel cursor followed by a black 2-inch vertical band on the card. The movie file size is 3.2 MB. Any ideas? BTW, I tried removing the ".mpg" from both the script and the name of the video clip but to no avail . . . same result! Thanks, Roger ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: terminate script from keyboard
On Friday, May 21, 2004, at 02:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear uncle Bob, ;) If you find a Command key with an apple or a trefle key on a PC, call me,t hat keyboard is worth a fortune!!! In the RevDoc it says... Normally, you can stop a handler while it's executing by pressing Command-period (on Mac OS or OS X systems) or Control-period (on Unix or Windows systems). This capability can be useful when debugging. Try to make anything stop on windows with a period... It's supposed to be "C"... I've NEVER been able to cancel/abort/interupt anything on windows with a period. So why the fuss? Well, I dont know but either it should work or state that the user can also use 'C' to cancel scripts and we wouldn't have users complaining... The big question is: Am i the only one who can't make control-period work? Nope. I usually can't make it work, especially when I have a repeat loop. It is determined to go through the process. It does work *sometimes*. I hate to put in code to catch and stop them, though, since anything extra slows the process down. Raymond cheers -=- Xavier Bury Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20.05.2004 21:54 Please respond to chipp To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: terminate script from keyboard . Xavier, I've been thinking about your problem. Turns out he was holding his cmd key on his Mac and pressing the . key on his PC. I told him to try using the ctrl key on his PC and voila-- Bob's your uncle. Bug 1, 2 and 3 I've told Scott years ago that cmd-period doesn't work on PCs... My real question is why am i not being taken seriously? And above all, why is there a mention of this combo if it doesn't work? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
On May 21, 2004, at 8:44 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've reported it in Bugzilla, though I am not yet completely convinced it is a real bug. I did an awful lot of testing to see what messages were being generated from which stack, and what I was getting looked correct. I just can't find a way to use those messages to get the behavior I need. Not sure if it is related, but I posted bug: 1520 a while back that affects the hiding and showing of palettes with "hidePalettes". It is broken on all platforms with Rev 2.2. Looks like there is a general issue regarding this. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Weird Font Problems/PC only
Hi, For aesthetics as well as cross-platform issues, my stack uses Comic Sans and Trebuchet MS fonts. The problem I am running into is that, mid-way through the stack on a PC, either the font 'reverts' (?) to Lucida something-or-other OR it retains the correct font but decides to change the font size to 10 or 12 (instead of 18 or 24). So, I edited it/changed everything to what it was supposed to be *on a PC* mind you, brought it back into the Mac-side of things, made some other, unrelated, changes, took it back to the PC and... guess what? Font changes for naught. Same old problem *again*. I've tried hand-setting it (by using the browse tool, selecting the text, and using the Text menu commands); I've done it by selecting the contents from the object inspector and setting the text attributes from the menu; I've done it by using the arrow tool to select the text field and then using the menu test commands... all of which fail to resolve the problem. I suppose I could use text as graphics, but that would be alot of work and I'm guessing that shouldn't be necessary. Any informed ideas? [Clearly I have none :-( ] TIA, Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
On 5/21/04 12:09 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: > > On May 21, 2004, at 8:44 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> I've reported it in Bugzilla, though I am not yet completely convinced >> it is a real bug. I did an awful lot of testing to see what messages >> were being generated from which stack, and what I was getting looked >> correct. I just can't find a way to use those messages to get the >> behavior I need. > > > Not sure if it is related, but I posted bug: 1520 a while back that > affects the hiding and showing of palettes with "hidePalettes". It is > broken on all platforms with Rev 2.2. Looks like there is a general > issue regarding this. > I hadn't hit that particular snag. In this case, I don't know if it is related or not. I suspect the problem I'm having has more to do with messaging though. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
On 5/21/04 11:25 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: You've thrown down the gauntlet -- this sounds like a good challenge. Can you explain why the palette needs to disappear when not top most? Sure. The palette is a tool palette. Another substack is an object editing area where the user can design stuff; mostly custom field objects, line graphics, and text entry -- sort of a page layout thing. The palette is only appropriate to that particular one-card editing substack, and in fact, I don't want the tools available elsewhere lest they start creating or removing objects in the cards of the mainstack (and I don't want to write all the scripts that would prevent that.) The editing stack and the palette are both substacks of the main stack. So we have: myMainStack | | myTools myEditingStack When the editing substack opens, it needs to always have its tool palette available. When it closes, the tool palette is closed. This works, implemented with opencard and closecard handlers. If, however, the user clicks back over to the mainstack, the tools should also go away. This doesn't work consistently. If it did, everything is solved. Second solution might be: Don't allow the user to suspend the editing stack at all. If they can't suspend the editing stack, then the suspend/resume problems don't exist. However, I can't make the editing stack modal (or palette) because it won't allow object editing if it is. I could leave it as modeless or toplevel, and try to script blockages so that the user can't click on the main stack (which I'm not sure is completely possible either,) except that Windows users could still bring the mainstack forward via the taskbar. Third possible solution: Make the editing stack into another card of the mainstack. This would probably work, except that I don't think it looks professional to have the main stack "disappear" during editing, which is how it would look visually. I'd rather have a separate editing window. I seem to have hit an impasse. If you want to undertake this challenge, then I will enthusiastically root for you to win. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: European Rev Conference,14-15-16 November 2004
Hi Folks, As some of you know, I am just a grad student from Brazil, but I am thinking about attending to EuroRevDevConf. So I must spare all the dimes I can for most of my money will be flushed into the airtickets pipes. I see on the briefing that price is based on double occupancy, I want is there a discount for a single person? Euros are a bit expensive in here, I think it's four to one, so just the conference would cost me about 1200, and the airport tickets I think would cost me about 4k more. So any discount would be very welcome. Cheers Andre On May 19, 2004, at 1:13 PM, sims wrote: European Revolution Conference 14-15-16 November 2004 Malta We have rescheduled and greatly expanded the European Revolution Conference to be held 14-15-16 November 2004 in Valletta, Malta The November 2004 EuroRevCon Features... * Kevin Miller, Rev CEO Keynote Sunday evening and daily discussions * Two full days of Rev presentations and discussions by expert Rev developers: Malte Brill Richard Gaskin Klaus Major Frederic Rinaldi Jan Schenkel * Special pricing on Dan Shafer's book Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought * CDs loaded with Rev examples and tools offered to all attendees * Special Rev License pricing for attendees Revolution Express will be offered for just $99 (retail price $149) Revolution Studio will be offered for $299 (retail price $399) More information is available online at:http://techietours.com/Rev/ Those who wish to extend their learning holiday in sunny Malta are also offered two additional events which take place before and after the European Revolution Conference. Want to know more? Please get in touch... email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iChat: techietours Kind regards, Jim Sims Techie Tours -- Tech Conferences http://TechieTours.com We make... iBirthday http://EZPZapps.com/iB SmartDoghttp://EZPZapps.com/SmartDog Kartolina http://EZPZapps.com/kartolina ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Synchronized scrolling fields
On 5/21/04 7:20 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: The data field does have a vertical grid, but I want the equivalent of a fixed or locked first line and first column to be column and row labels respectively. So, not matter how far down or across a user scrolls, they can always identify the row and column they're viewing by looking at the labels. The labels themselves can be hypertext that trigger handlers to sort the data. I usually create a separate header field for the both the top header and the side header. Then use either a single table field for the data, or several individual fields. Once you get it all set up, group the whole business and set the group to have both vertical and horizontal scrollbars. You don't need to script any scrolling commands, since the headers will scroll in sync along with the group. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: deleting lines from a text file
On Friday, May 21, 2004, at 09:20 AM, rand valentine wrote: Could someone else verify this, so that I know it's a bug and not bad karma :-)? Thanks. I see this on OS X 10.2.8 using Revolution 2.2. The file does not seem to be modified. I tried this with an empty file and a five line file made with TextEdit. The file name from 'answer file' looks OK to me. I'd say, go ahead and bugzilla it. I think orkarounds have been suggested. For files not too large, I'd read it in, delete the line and write it out. I would not be surprised if other commands that modify containers have a similar problem with URL containers. It might be that this kind of thing is not really supported. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How do I retrieve MIDI input?
Thanks, Xavier, but I think you were referring to Christopher, who started this thread. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:56 AM > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: RE: How do I retrieve MIDI input? > > > Ken, > > I can't help you for the Mac but for the PC, you can use > MIDI-OX which can do all you want with MIDI including merging > different inputs (USB or > MIDI) > into any number of channels... > > Output is also possible naturally... > > http://www.midiox.com > > enjoy > Xavier > > On 21.05.2004 09:30:05 use-revolution-bounces wrote: > >Have you looked at MidiPipe? > > > >http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10541 > > > >It has an AppleScript Trigger that might help (I don't know > much about > Midi, > >but found this after a search)... > > > >Ken Ray > >Sons of Thunder Software > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Weise, > >> Christopher > >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:38 PM > >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >> Subject: How do I retrieve MIDI input? > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm a two-year list-lurker and rev user, coming from a 10 year > >> attachment to HyperCard. I finally have a question for which I can > >> find no solution from the list and/or docs. (I've read > numerous MIDI > >> threads, but they seem to deal with output--formatting MIDI files, > >> playing back through QT, etc.) > >> > >> I want to capture raw MIDI input from an external source > (typically a > >> MIDI keyboard), connected via USB. I cannot assure that users will > >> have access to a USB-serial converter. On Macs, I want to > be able to > >> go through CoreMIDI; on PC, I don't know yet (Mac version comes > >> first...). The old HyperMIDI externals don't seem to work, > at least > >> in OSX. > >> > >> Should/Can I: > >> 1. Learn to write an external with my scripting-only (very meager > >> outside of > >> HyperTalk) programming experience? > >> > >> 2. Use AppleScript and/or AppleEvents? > >> > >> 3. Uncover some script, external, or other solution I've missed? > >> > >> 4. Find another alternative altogether? > >> > >> 5. Give up? > >> > >> Does anyone do this, or (perhaps) know of an apple-scriptable MIDI > >> utility from which I could retrieve the data and deal with > it in Rev > >> (only way I can think to do it...)? Thanks for any and all sage > >> advice. > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Chris Weise > >> Music and Fine Arts > >> Johnson C. Smith University > >> Charlotte, NC ___ > >> use-revolution mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > >> > > > > > >___ > >use-revolution mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com > > IMPORTANT MESSAGE > > Internet communications are not secure and therefore > Clearstream International does not accept legal > responsibility for the contents of this message. > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and > may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the > addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any > disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or > omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may > be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of > the individual sender, except where the sender specifically > states them to be the views of Clearstream International or > of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. > > END OF DISCLAIMER ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HyperCard Address Stack Conversion
On 5/20/04 11:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reviewed the Runtime Revolution archives, visited numerous Runtime Revolution related Web sites, and talked to several Runtime Revolution consulting firms as well as Runtime Revolution technical support. No one has been able to offer a commercial product or an off-the-shelf solution. Revolution is a developer's tool, so any solution would have to be in the form of a custom-made application or set of stacks. I was led to believe that I could use Runtime Revolution to migrate these HyperCard Address stacks from my Macintosh to my ThinkPad. After downloading and installing Runtime Revolution 2.2, I was able to convert my HyperCard Address stacks to Runtime Revolution files. Prior to conversion I compacted the stacks three times. However, I encountered several problems as described below: 1. I tried printing an individual card using the Revolution File- Print Card command. Revolution printed the card, but the result was not readable. Revolution appears to be printing the text multiple times with a slight offset, making the text unreadable due to overlaid printing. Either that, or Revolution has a problem with the fonts. This happens when a transparent image is laid over or under a text field. When Rev imports the address book's background image, it creates it with the white areas transparent. This interferes with the field's text display. The solution is to either remove the image entirely, or recreate it in a different form that doesn't overly the text. If the graphics are not important to you, it is easiest to just delete the image. 2. I tried generating a report using the Revolution Tools-Report Builder command. However, I was not able to print a report. When I click the Print Report button at the bottom right-hand side of the dialogue box, nothing happens. It's hard to say what happened without being there, but this is usually easy to fix. Had you saved the stack to disk? Sometimes with imported HC stacks, you have to set the hcAddressing property to false for some actions to work properly. 3. The tried to search the card stack using the Revolution Edit- Find and Replace command. This command opened the Find and Replace dialogue window. However, when I enter a text string in the Find field, and press the Find button, the system always reports "0 objects found". This is true regardless of whether I am searching the This Card, This Stack, or This Stack File. There is a bug in this menu item somewhere; I've had trouble with it too occasionally. However, the built-in "find" commands that are imported with the address stack will work fine. You may need to alter their keyboard commands or put in a button for it, since the HC menus aren't imported with the rest of the stack. 4. I have inspected the scripts within the stack, and all of the ones that I need are working. The problems that I am experiencing are limited solely to printing cards, generating reports, and searching cards for text strings. None of these are show-stoppers, and most are very easy to implement. You do, however, have to do a bit of coding. Given the above problems, is Runtime Revolution the right product for the job? If so, how do I get around these problems? If not, do you have any recommendations for a product that can satisfy my requirements? Again, the requirements are very simple as shown below: 1.Convert HyperCard "Address" stacks from the Macintosh to the PC 2.Provide the ability to create, delete, modify, and search cards 3.Provide the ability to print a single card or to print an entire report of cards within the stack If you have a solution to this problem, please post your solution or send me an email. I am willing to pay a reasonable price for an off-the-shelf solution, but I am reluctant to engage in a consulting contract to do customized work. I would prefer to use a standard vendor product. I don't think you will find any pre-made product for this, as the demand is very low. I've done a few address stack conversions myself for individual clients, and the task is very straightforward. What I've done in the past is create a stack that has the ability to import the HyperCard address book data from an existing HC stack. The client then clones the original on disk, opens it, and imports data from one of the HC address stacks. The process is repeated until all the user's stacks are duplicated. Another option for you might be to use the Power Tools stack that ships with HyperCard. There is a text exporting utility in there that will write out all the card data to a text file using delimiters of your choice. You can then import that text file into any PC application or database you own. This solution would be totally free. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hy
RE: Modal-like dialog box without using "modal"?
> I want to stop the user from doing anything else, i.e. I want the > dialog box to be "modal". But if I make the dialog box > modal, the make > thumbnail process stops running. Oh, one other possibility is to move the "make thumbnail" process *to* the modal dialog and leave the progress dialog modal... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frontscript to simulate modal dialog
Frank, The only thing you can do about this AFAIK is to have a resumeStack handler on the other windows that have code that checks to see if the progress window is in open, and if so, to re-open the progress bar window (which will bring it to the front). You'll have an odd "toggle" sort of situation going on (where for a fraction of a second the dialog is submerged), but it'll keep people from messing up other windows. Another option is to use a palette window for your progress bar and have each "normal" window have a transparent button that sits in front of everything else on that window. Normally it is hidden, but when the progress bar is going it becomes visible. When the progress bar goes away, this button is hidden again. This prevents "submarining" of the progress window (since it's a palette), and also prevents clicks on the other windows (since the transparent button gets in the way). HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Frank Leahy > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Frontscript to simulate modal dialog > > > Hi, > > I tried Sarah's suggestion of creating a frontscript that > would allow a > progress dialog to act like a modal dialog does (can't bring other > windows to the front, etc.). Here's the script I tried: > > > on mouseDown >put the rect of window "Thumbnail Progress" into theRect > -- this is > the progress dialog window >put the screenMouseLoc into theLoc >if theLoc is within theRect then > pass mouseDown >else > beep >end if > end mouseDown > > For some reason this doesn't seem to work. I hear the beeps, but it > doesn't seem to stop the mouseDown's from going to other > windows, e.g. > I can still bring other windows to the front. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > -- Frank > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
On 5/21/04 11:25 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: You've thrown down the gauntlet -- this sounds like a good challenge. Can you explain why the palette needs to disappear when not top most? Sure. The palette is a tool palette. Another substack is an object editing area where the user can design stuff; mostly custom field objects, line graphics, and text entry -- sort of a page layout thing. The palette is only appropriate to that particular one-card editing substack, and in fact, I don't want the tools available elsewhere lest they start creating or removing objects in the cards of the mainstack (and I don't want to write all the scripts that would prevent that.) The editing stack and the palette are both substacks of the main stack. So we have: myMainStack | | myTools myEditingStack When the editing substack opens, it needs to always have its tool palette available. When it closes, the tool palette is closed. This works, implemented with opencard and closecard handlers. If, however, the user clicks back over to the mainstack, the tools should also go away. This doesn't work consistently. If it did, everything is solved. Second solution might be: Don't allow the user to suspend the editing stack at all. If they can't suspend the editing stack, then the suspend/resume problems don't exist. However, I can't make the editing stack modal (or palette) because it won't allow object editing if it is. I could leave it as modeless or toplevel, and try to script blockages so that the user can't click on the main stack (which I'm not sure is completely possible either,) except that Windows users could still bring the mainstack forward via the taskbar. Third possible solution: Make the editing stack into another card of the mainstack. This would probably work, except that I don't think it looks professional to have the main stack "disappear" during editing, which is how it would look visually. I'd rather have a separate editing window. I seem to have hit an impasse. If you want to undertake this challenge, then I will enthusiastically root for you to win. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Yet another possible solution: build the tool palette directly into the editor window. The problem with the original solution can't be remedied easily as far I can see -- somehow an resumeStack message is not sent or sent to wrong stack. Robert Brenstein ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime capabilities question
On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:47:10 -0700 (PDT), Erik Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Graham Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found out that you can't force > Windows users to install QT, but that's > another story... so what do you use, Windows Media Player? brimming with curiosity, Hi Erik Well, for one reason and another (like I had lots of trouble with Animated GIFs, and since I develop cross-platform apps I could hardly expect Mac users to use WMP, even though it is available on the Mac platform), I opted for a 'grow your own' solution, with generous help from this list. Basically, my 'movies' are just sequences of images shown via the button-icon mechanism of RunRev, and the accompanying sounds are .wav files which can be played as audioclips, looping along with the movies. Once I'd read Dar Scott's message path tutorial, I found it pretty easy to run my animations forwards and backwards at different speeds, and to run more than one simultaneously (all stuff I needed); the sounds OTOH were rather tedious, since if for example I have a bell ringing and want to slow it down, I want the ringing to go more slowly and sound a deeper note, as would happen if a real electric bell was running out of juice. This is easy with QT, but with my method I just have to have a different .wav file for each required speed. I don't think WMP would have been any better on sound, BTW. Doubtless this approach wouldn't work with real movies - i.e. films with lots of photographic-style frames and the need for clever codecs and completely synched sound, but in my rather narrow case it works really well - and since I gave up the animated GIFs, the app has got smaller, too. HTH Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK & France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime capabilities question
On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:57:38 -0700, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Graham Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found out that you can't force > Windows users to install QT, but that's > another story... Of course you can't force anyone to install anything, but if the benefits are compelling enough it's not hard to get users to choose to install QT, and even easier if you get the free license from Apple to include the QT installer on your product's CD. With the HyperRESEARCH product I make for ResearchWare we haven't had a single complaint from Win users about installing QT; given the wide range of formats it allows our product to support they're often glad we use it. But of course acceptance will depend on the market the software addresses. What sort of audience are you finding resistance to QT in? UK Schools - very few have the time or inclination to go through more than the minimum installation process, especially for a relatively inexpensive product. Of course here and there, there are highly IT-literate schools or proper IT departments who would be responsible for the installation work and for the policy decision to install QT, perhaps centrally, but you can't count on it. This is the advice I get from my publisher who is in touch with literally thousands of state (=publicly funded) schools in the UK. A further insight is that these teachers are so hard-pressed that apart from the relative few who take a direct interest in computers, they will seldom feel able to take the time to understand any intricate functionality in a PC application, even if an investment of understanding would in the end lead to a reduction in time and effort. It's a tough world out there. Of course YMMV Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK & France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problems with "send" and macosx .3.3
sorry, my delimiters are numToChar(1) and numToChar(2).. logins/passwords are iso-8859-1 (aka us-ascii) chars only.. -Original Message- > Could the passwords that don't work include any of the delimiters in > tTransactionData? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
Jacque wrote: I have stack that opens a tool palete. I want the palette to disappear when the stack is not frontmost, and reappear when it is. When faced with a mysterious issue related to OS events I've found if nothing else works sometimes it's useful to add a timer to allow the OS to complete whatever it's doing before doing your next thing. This seems to work okay from a frontScript: on resumeStack send "UpdatePal" to me in 100 millisecs end resumeStack on UpdatePal if the short name of the topStack is "sub" then show stack "pal" else hide stack "pal" end UpdatePal -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
Recently, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: >> You've thrown down the gauntlet -- this sounds like a good challenge. >> >> Can you explain why the palette needs to disappear when not top most? > > Sure. The palette is a tool palette. Another substack is an object > editing area where the user can design stuff; mostly custom field > objects, line graphics, and text entry -- sort of a page layout thing. > The palette is only appropriate to that particular one-card editing > substack, and in fact, I don't want the tools available elsewhere lest > they start creating or removing objects in the cards of the mainstack > (and I don't want to write all the scripts that would prevent that.) The > editing stack and the palette are both substacks of the main stack. > I seem to have hit an impasse. If you want to undertake this challenge, > then I will enthusiastically root for you to win. :) OK, I believe I've met the challenge, using the relocation technique. The result is a bit like the behavior of the Mac app GraphicConverter. Try this (message box): go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/palettetest.rev"; Create a new main stack and click back and forth between the palettetest stack and your empty main stack (or the message box). The palette window should hide and display depending on whether the test stack is front-most, and you should be able to click/type within the palette while it is visible. See the card script of the test stack for details. Appears to work as desired on OSX (not tested on Windows). Do I win? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QuickTime capabilities question (naive response)
--- Graham Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I found out that you can't force > > > Windows users to install QT, but that's > > > another story... > > > >Of course you can't force anyone to install > anything, but if the > >benefits are compelling enough it's not hard > to get users to choose to > >install QT, and even easier if you get the > free license from Apple to > >include the QT installer on your product's CD. > With the HyperRESEARCH > >product I make for ResearchWare we haven't had > a single complaint from > >Win users about installing QT; given the wide > range of formats it allows > >our product to support they're often glad we > use it. > > > >But of course acceptance will depend on the > market the software > >addresses. What sort of audience are you > finding resistance to QT in? > > UK Schools - very few have the time or > inclination to go through more than > the minimum installation process, especially > for a relatively inexpensive > product. Of course here and there, there are > highly IT-literate schools or > proper IT departments who would be responsible > for the installation work > and for the policy decision to install QT, > perhaps centrally, but you can't > count on it. This is the advice I get from my > publisher who is in touch > with literally thousands of state (=publicly > funded) schools in the UK. A > further insight is that these teachers are so > hard-pressed that apart from > the relative few who take a direct interest in > computers, they will seldom > feel able to take the time to understand any > intricate functionality in a > PC application, even if an investment of > understanding would in the end > lead to a reduction in time and effort. It's a > tough world out there. the naif asks: is there any way to automate the whole deal and put it in a button "Install Me!" along the lines of Alice in the Looking Glass? Erik Hansen = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette redraw problem
Recently, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: > When faced with a mysterious issue related to OS events I've found if > nothing else works sometimes it's useful to add a timer to allow the OS > to complete whatever it's doing before doing your next thing. Arg, I just read this after posting a more complicated solution. Hopefully simplicity is the solution. :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[freenet-support] Bug: Missing DNS gives no error
I just restarted my node which had run perfectly for more than a week. But for some reason it would not start. The log ended with: May 21, 2004 2:00:35 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5082 on JVM Blackdown Java-Linux Team:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:Blackdown-1.4.1-01 so it did not even start the filesystem. I later found out that it was caused by not running a name server. It is ofcourse reasonable not being able to run without DNS, but it would have been nice if the log-file gave a hint about this and not just nothing. /Ole ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
