Re: How to add Database Library to CGI engine?
On 8/2/04 4:36 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Uh... my MC engine for Linux is failing on revOpenDatabase, I assume this is due to a lack of the library itself for the error is like handler unknown... is there any trick to add DB support to a CGI? Man... I should know better... Andre, how about downloading and connecting to the Valentina DB externals directly (i.e. attach them to a stack which you open from the CGI to make DB calls)? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Conductor libiTunes for Rev Developers
Le 03-août-04, à 02:13, Scott Rossi a écrit : Greetings Rev Developers: After saying goodbye to the nice folks at the Rev Master's Summit and spending many hours arguing with AppleScript, Tactile Media is happy to announce a beta demo of Conductor, a Revolution stack that provides control over virtually all playback features of Apple's iTunes music player on Mac OS X. Hi Scott, FABULOUS ! Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animation library - libRMC
Hi Erik, do you move multiple objects simultaneously? Yes, I do. The main concept is to have handlers that calculate the next point on the path. So if you call the handlers just once it will move the object to the next point. You can easiely create a handler that calls itself in a send in time structure. In this handler you call the handlers that animate your objects. You can have all animations in one place if you like. (mind that you must start using stack libRMC to make it work.) e.g. in a button: on mouseUp if the flag of me is empty then set the flag of me to -1 end if set the flag of me to the flag of me*-1 hereWeGo end mouseUp on hereWeGo lock screen send moveCircular to img myImage send moveElliptical to grc myGraphic send moveLinear to fld myField unlock screen if the flag of me=1 then send hereWeGo to me in 4 milliseconds end if end hereWeGo Now you can use the inspector and set the custom properties created by the handlers. There will be a custom property set moveCircular for image myImage with the following properties: centerX - the x location of the circular paths center point centerY - the y location isAngle - the arcAngle isRadius - the radius of the circle step - the speed and direction the object moves on the path Each handler creates its own Custom properties set, so its easy to play with it. :-) Of course you can set these properties by script: e.g. set the moveCircular[isRadius] of img myImage to 80 set the moveCircular[step] of img myImage to -0.5 If you happen to find the time, download my ERCSneak preview stack to see libRMC in action. I´ll be updating libRMC from time to time (next update will follow at the end of August) Best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Web Solutions?
Le 2 août 04, à 18:56, Hershel Fisch a écrit : On Monday, August 2, 2004, at 06:18 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Le 2 août 04, à 06:24, Hershel Fisch a écrit : On Sunday, August 1, 2004, at 07:45 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Le 1 août 04, à 23:32, Hershel Fisch a écrit : On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 04:56 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, Take care about the fact that the way i expose don't use the RevDB lib but direct shell() calls to the psql PostgreSQL's server-side connector. Now technical what is the difference between the two methods ? 1.- worked fine years before the introduction of the RevDB lib 2.- those MC/Rev applications servers are only doing what they are doing the best : working on the data presentation layer, in beetwin the Web server (one side) and (second side) the shell() + psql connector to the ACID compliant PostgreSQL RDBMS. 3.- works fine and very fast in all situations, including administration tasks alike new databases and tables creations or automatic pg_dump (backups) operations without stopping the production statu of the PostgreSQL server. 4.- least but not least : i didn't, at this time, got enought time to test RevDB and see if it's mature in about handling critical production tasks (over 400 connections/secs, 75% write mode transactions). Well the the db library in my opinion is good and fast , I do all kind of SQL work without any problems. That's a good news reminding me that i will have to test and learn how to use it as soon as possible ;) but I'd still like to try out and see how to work with shell() for other things as you mentioned above for maintenance purposes . The question, where I can get some education on that . About general PostgreSQL + Metacard/Revolution posts : http://www.google.com/search? as_sitesearch=lists.runrev.comnum=20q=postgresql About handling a PostgreSQL back-end from Revolution in CGI mode : http://www.google.com/search? as_sitesearch=lists.runrev.comnum=20q=postgresql+sadhu About handling a PostgreSQL back-end from Revolution set up as a web/eai applications server : http://www.google.com/search? as_sitesearch=lists.runrev.comnum=20q=postgresql+sahores The main site for PosrgreSQL stuffs, news, events : http://www.postgresql.org/ Cool PostgreSQL news : http://pgreplicator.sourceforge.net/ About PostgreSQL specifics to the MacOSX platform : http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/postgresql/ Best, Pierre Thanks, Hershel Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Advise on enterprize application.
Hello Andre, I will answer to your post tonight. In short, the way is to have all your stuff binded to the standard Apache's 80 port trought sockets translators/listeners able to use the 80 port to provide the requests/replies over the web and to have your server-sided Rev apps connectables to the Apache default port from they own private/protected ( 1024) port. I use, for my own, a 10 lines .PHP script as the sockets translator. You can find it in searching the archives. Because lots to do until 21 PM, more detals tonight :) Best, Le 2 aot 04, 22:36, Andre Garzia a crit : Hi Folks, I was hired to build a simple app here in brazil, I should take care of managing contacts and projects for a small company. As a common practice here in the country, they changed the project as the game was going and now the only thing it doesn't do is to babysit the CEO daughter, but okay, I could cope with the spec changes, it's just a huge db anway. Now the sky has fallen, they want their app to talk to the other franchise apps, meaning theres a company here at Rio de Janeiro, another at Sao Paulo and yet another at Porto Alegre, and they want to exchange data, they want the program to run everywhere and they've got lot's of firewalls since they are inside a university. I was going like this, client app in Rev, MySQL running in a server, everyone access the server. This ain't working They can't open connections to the server running at my ISP, I can, I tested it in three machines on different networks they can't change their firewalls policies and they want to share data I am now thinking in doing the other way, I make the server using my webserver stack and valentina, and they access it by the web, they can pass thru the firewall to do webrequests... but that's ugly I hate deploying apps using web interface. It's just simple DBs with 6 tables and couple joins... should be easy I look forward to some advise for I must deliver this yesterday, and they just phoned to say that the other companies will use the program, that's why I am in a hurry... that's also the money that should take me to malta. And since they are publishing and marketing company they know nothing of IT they think that for them to use an app and for outside-of-lan-ambient people to use the same app is trivial hell! firewalls!!! fake IPs!! anyone here got an advise or idea, I am begining again from the scratch so any advise is good. andre PS: and if I tell I need more time, they just dump me and use another contractant pretty cool ain't it. -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivit ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Callbacks
Hi Barry, I am a newbie with Revoloution and would like to get some information about using callbacks with Revolution to support QuickTime movies. I would like to have information displayed during playback by attaching callbacks to the movie's chapter tracks times so that the message the callback contains is displayed. I have 2 questions. How are callbacks created? Does one type into the callbacks option screen (of the Property Inspector Window) when the quicktime movie is selected and enter the numbers and messages there? I have tried that, but upon typing them in and then selecting another option such as basic properties and then going back to the callback list, I see the callbacks are now gone. I have the callback handler on the card script so that when the message is tagged in the movie, the script for the message should display in the field I tell it to. Please help me establish callbacks to use in conjunction with quicktime playback of text/chapter tracks. please check the user contribution page on the RR website, there is a small stack of mine concerning and explaining the callbacks: The Mistery of the callbacks v1.0 Way down the page :-) And please spread the word that there are LOTS of these nice thing on that page!!! ;-) Barry Sieber Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving and Talking
Thanks Kurt, Malte and Sarah for your responses to my question. Your replies helped me to understand why it would not work. I misunderstood that the sub-stacks would be linked to the revSpeak external in the build. I have not tried your suggestions, but understand why they would work. I have done another search in the Rev archives and came across a very simple solution from Klaus which I tried and it works in both Mac OS X and Windows builds. Here it is; (Thanks Klaus.) Put this into the script of the store-data-stack on preopenstack start using stack the standalone one ## well, you guess ... end preopenstack and: on closestack stop using stack the standalone one ... end closestack This way not only handlers and functions of stack the standalone one are accessible but also its externals/libraries, which are missing otherwise as you just experienced :-) Hope that helps... On 02/08/2004, at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg, I can get the Distribution Builder to build a standalone that will save changes (button names). I can get the Distribution Builder to build a standalone that will speak the button name. BUT not in the same build. I guess the stack you are saving does not know that it needs to use the revspeak external. Try having the script that does the speak in the standalones mainstack and call that script from the stack you are saving. e.G. declare a global or custom prop that holds the text to be spoken and speak that global / custom prop from the main stack. Hope that helps, Malte On Aug 2, 2004, at 1:02 AM, Greg Wills wrote: I can get the Distribution Builder to build a standalone that will save changes (button names). How do you do that? I was under the impression that any persistent changes had to be made to a substack when running from a standalone. What I usually do is to open a small stack (which does nothing except allow me to initialize the Revolution runtime), immediately make it invisible, and then open a secondary stack which allows changes to be saved (and in effect does all the work). -Kurt Kurt maybe I didn't make it clear. It is saving to a sub-stack of the standalone. It has taken me ages to understand how to do this properly. Having now got to the point that I can actually do it gives me such a sense of freedom. Now I feel I can do whatever I want and get users to alter info in the stack as they want (yeh basic I know, but a satisfying breakthrough for me). It actually works, works reliably and not complicated - now!! I am no expert on this, but if you want my explanation of how I have done this, I will be happy to share. cheers Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 public beta?
At 6:50 PM +0100 8/2/2004, Kaveh Bazargan wrote: Is this a public beta? If so which is the url? If not, why are the discussions on this list? ;-) It is a public beta. You might have missed Kevin's announcement with the download link, but here it is: I'm delighted to announce Revolution 2.5 Beta for Windows and Mac OS X. Linux and Mac Classic will follow shortly. By definition, a beta test release is a test version and may not be reliable. As such you should back up your work before using this version and not use it with any sensitive projects. Existing license keys will unlock this beta test version. The URL for Windows: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B1/revsetup.exe Or without an installer: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B1/revolution.zip Mac OS X: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B1/revolutionosx.dmg An FAQ on the changes to Express can be found here: http://www.runrev.com/express/expresstodreamcard.shtml The testing of this version is being restricted to our existing customers so please do not give these URLs out outside this list. Please report any issues with this release directly on Bugzilla. Enjoy! Kind regards, Kevin -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
My 2.5 beta 1 review
Here's my take on 2.5b1. (A bit late; I finally had a chance to try it!) - The new tool cursor: No, its appearance is not right. A pointer should be something fairly stable to look at, such as pointing in a direction (arrow, hand) or marking a location (cross, i-beam). This thing is chaotic; it has arrows pointing in five directions. Having the small crossed four arrows would tend to suggest resizing or moving things, and this is not the case. Is this intuitive, or misleading and confusing? Even it we were moving things, four crossed arrows would not be something to overuse; as a dragging icon it would be appropriate. Using it all the time is radical. They are separated from the main pointing portion of the cursor, and this enhances the confusing effect. Solution: a cursor-designing contest? (Reading the Readme, I assume that hand will still be hand and arrow will still be arrow, and there will be another keyword for the tool icon--if so, good. Also, while defaulting to arrow is best for many apps, educational and some games are just as well done with the hand. This will be fine if it's easy to set the defaultcursor to the hand when desired.) - The tool palette: Yes and no. The advantage of dragging out a control is that you see its exact shape and position all the time while placing it. So, it has its good points as a method, and it's pretty smooth. However, it does have its limitations. It requires constant pressure on the mouse button; one-click creation is cleaner in a way. But even more importantly, the other old capability of dragging to create and size at the same time is superior in terms of what can be achieved with your motions. Lacking anything like this makes the new tool palette pretty clumsy. Double clicking to create a centered control is really too basic for an easy-to-use yet advanced tool like Rev. (It's more like what we would expect in Hyperstudio.) Rev would do better with a power feature, which is what we have with double-clicking the old tool palette. Form should follow function. This is form striking out on its own with function stumbling along behind. It could be a step forward in both respects if the old and new palette capabilities were combined; after all, if you click and don't drag in the new tool palette, you get no result. This is wasted and unintuitive. Use the new way when the user drags, use the old way when he clicks or double-clicks. Simple, and then you have a truly superior interface, not just one that's in fashion. Including the paint and expanded draw tools is a good idea and will save time. - The documentation window's dictionary: Filter and Search are fine, but Scroll to term is a good thing and could still be included. I've used Filter many times (including every time I have to reset prefs, and also when I choose to use it for a purpose) and have always ended up setting it to Scroll as the default. - Revolution online Interesting way to get community going. Cool. - The player Yes and no. It's great to have Rev stacks play on all platforms; I think that is just as it should be. And a player is an ideal way to do this, so when I read about the idea, I was enthusiastic. However, this particular player is too radical. If someone wants to distribute their software, they do want people to actually look at their software, and the people downloading also want to actually see that software. This player prevents that, jumping to the front and offering other options with the opened stack shoved to the back. Worse, closing the online browser quits everything. At best the user will be completely distracted from the program they downloaded, at worst they may give up before even getting to it. Either way, any software distributed the traditional way will seem much less valuable. This is one of the most self-promoting players I've seen so far. So, selling something made with DreamCard would be very unlikely, but even freeware distributed as a traditional download package would just seem like part of the background when opened up. Was it worth downloading? When browsing for online contributions it's not so bad, but on the other hand, this assumes a community point of view where the user is interested in trying whatever's out there, good and bad, big and small, all there together. What if a user downloads a distributed stack and just wants to see that stack and do whatever it does--not in community frame of mind, not interested in seeing other things? The DreamCard player is so IDE-centric and focused on the new community idea that it stops filling the original role of a player. If there is still going to be any traditional distribution of stacks (on web pages and download sites) for use with the player, then the online browser should not take over. It could be available from a menu or button rather than popping out. And the Revolution message/promotion should be toned down and balanced. If someone downloads
Re: [ANN] Conductor libiTunes for Rev Developers
Pretty cool stuff. I look forward to trying it out :-) Scott Rossi wrote: Greetings Rev Developers: After saying goodbye to the nice folks at the Rev Master's Summit and spending many hours arguing with AppleScript, Tactile Media is happy to announce a beta demo of Conductor, a Revolution stack that provides control over virtually all playback features of Apple's iTunes music player on Mac OS X. Conductor contains the libiTunes library, a collection of 42 Transcript-like commands and functions for controlling and retrieving data from iTunes. We encourage developers who have a need for CD/music control alongside Rev, and those into skins and faces, to have a go at the demo and see how it performs. Download and information is available here: http://www.tactilemedia.com/conductor/ Please forward any questions/comments/problems off list. Thanks in advance for your participation and interest. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: which engine for OS X CGI
Wanting to try a bit of CGI stuff, and having a spare G3 in the corner, can anyone tell me which engine I should use with OS X? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animation library+open source
On 02.08.2004, at 13:45, Kevin Miller wrote: Would it make sense to open source it? It is now open source. correct me if I m wrong, but how can a part of rev be open source without a GPL License for rev? As I understand I can make my scripted code free (open source), but every open Source developer has to buy a rev license to write code? Will they do that? (How knows this guys?) Is there any intention in RR to make the engine open source? I m very interested in that, because I m changing my Trainingsmaps© to open source. regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Trainingsmaps© -- speadlearning with Mindmaps! INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418 Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can Rev Print Unicode?
Can Rev print unicode? And if it can how? I would like to be able to (Bprint mathmatical operators and such in a line of 'text' such as (B (B A $B"@(B B (A 'union' B) (B (BI can display the formula with the 'union' character in a field, but (Bnothing is printed (B (BThanks, (BMichael (B___ (Buse-revolution mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Print Unicode?
I do not know what happened. I used Grab to copy an image of the (Boperator and pasted it on the card and printed it and the operators in (Bthe field appeared. (B (BIt seems that the image's rect must cover the unicode for the unicode (Bto print. (B?? (B (BMichael (B (BOn Aug 3, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: (B (B Can Rev print unicode? And if it can how? I would like to be able to (B print mathmatical operators and such in a line of 'text' such as (B (B A $B"@(B B (A 'union' B) (B (B I can display the formula with the 'union' character in a field, but (B nothing is printed (B (B Thanks, (B Michael (B___ (Buse-revolution mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animation library+open source
On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Wolfgang M.Bereuter wrote: correct me if I m wrong, but how can a part of rev be open source without a GPL License for rev? The animation library is a stack. Written in Transcript. As I understand I can make my scripted code free (open source), but every open Source developer has to buy a rev license to write code? Will they do that? (How knows this guys?) You would be able to edit it with Revolution, just like any other stack. You need to consider that this really means, take it and edit it however suits you. This makes anyone with a Rev license have the capacity to make something better out of it. It is just a stack, like any other. Is there any intention in RR to make the engine open source? The engine is not a stack, and is not written in Transcript. Open sourcing the engine is a whole different topic, but I wouldn't expect that to happen any time soon. The engine is essentially where RunRev derives its income. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animation library+open source
Wolfgang M.Bereuter wrote: On 02.08.2004, at 13:45, Kevin Miller wrote: Would it make sense to open source it? It is now open source. correct me if I m wrong, but how can a part of rev be open source without a GPL License for rev? As I understand I can make my scripted code free (open source), but every open Source developer has to buy a rev license to write code? Will they do that? (How knows this guys?) Is there any intention in RR to make the engine open source? I m very interested in that, because I m changing my Trainingsmaps© to open source. There may also be merit in dual licensing (see http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/4715). Just as one can release open source wares that require a proprietary OS to run (like Mozillla on OS X or Windows), there are open source licenses that govern components which are free for use within systems that may not be. The MetaCard IDE uses a variant of the X11 license (sometimes called the MIT license), but there's also the LGPL (Lesser GNU Public License) and others. In the US, the creator of a work is the copyright holder and can release a work under any terms desired -- you can even make up a new license if there isn't one that covers your needs (enforcement, however, may be another matter g). While there are competing factions in the open source world with varying opinions about licenses, I personally admire the work and dedication of Richard Stallman and tend to use licenses GNU.org considers compatible. A good overview of various open source licenses is at: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
Catching up on all the list I missed for a month. As long as one person is in the chat room runrev the room will exist to join. If no one is in the room and attempts to join, the room will be created. Once you see people in the ichat room, you can drag them to your buddy list and iChat provides groups so you can easily create a runrev specific group. This is probably the best method to see when there is activity. If you are on broadband and happen to leave your machine running, you can lurk in the room for days and log everything said to keep up to date. I logged three to four months of chats, even while I was asleep. The ichat room used for iDevGames during last years uDevGames contest was extremely successful, much alpha, beta, and final testing as well as idea and knowledge sharing took place, along with lots of laughs. After a couple of ichat network issues they switched to IRC and the large community created in ichat disintegrated into only a small handful of hard core geeks, with nothing much to talk about but code. I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I had put his stack scripts into iGame3D with the hopes of using it as a base of community based game dev, but without anyone on the network to test it and while doing trouble shooting I removed them. It would seem a RunRev based solution to chatting would be the best method of building a real time RunRev community. This could more likely occur once something starts happening in iChat, then folks can know who is online to test networking apps made in runrev. Well I'll be lurking in the chat room, see you there. Mr Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bulk mail sorting
Has anyone worked on creating software to sort mail to achieve US Post Office bulk rates, in particular sorting by carrier route? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
Besides a live chat location, judging by the activity on this mailing list, a static web forum would be ideal. There may be one I don't know about (if so, share) but if there isn't, this would be a very good thing to start. ~ Chris Innanen ~ Nonsnaity ~ iChat/AIM: FluffAndSuch william griffin wrote: Catching up on all the list I missed for a month. As long as one person is in the chat room runrev the room will exist to join. If no one is in the room and attempts to join, the room will be created. Once you see people in the ichat room, you can drag them to your buddy list and iChat provides groups so you can easily create a runrev specific group. This is probably the best method to see when there is activity. If you are on broadband and happen to leave your machine running, you can lurk in the room for days and log everything said to keep up to date. I logged three to four months of chats, even while I was asleep. The ichat room used for iDevGames during last years uDevGames contest was extremely successful, much alpha, beta, and final testing as well as idea and knowledge sharing took place, along with lots of laughs. After a couple of ichat network issues they switched to IRC and the large community created in ichat disintegrated into only a small handful of hard core geeks, with nothing much to talk about but code. I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I had put his stack scripts into iGame3D with the hopes of using it as a base of community based game dev, but without anyone on the network to test it and while doing trouble shooting I removed them. It would seem a RunRev based solution to chatting would be the best method of building a real time RunRev community. This could more likely occur once something starts happening in iChat, then folks can know who is online to test networking apps made in runrev. Well I'll be lurking in the chat room, see you there. Mr Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:20 PM, william griffin wrote: I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I had put his stack scripts into iGame3D with the hopes of using it as a base of community based game dev, but without anyone on the network to test it and while doing trouble shooting I removed them. It would seem a RunRev based solution to chatting would be the best method of building a real time RunRev community. This could more likely occur once something starts happening in iChat, then folks can know who is online to test networking apps made in runrev. I think a system like that within the IDE would be pretty awesome. Talk about immediate feedback. It would be like being able to ask the IDE questions and getting a community response. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: which engine for OS X CGI
You'll want the Darwin engine. Sorry don't have a URL handy but if you can't find on on RunRev.com, it's worth looking on ftp.metacard.com sometimes... Wanting to try a bit of CGI stuff, and having a spare G3 in the corner, can anyone tell me which engine I should use with OS X? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Save Stack Problem
Hi, I am trying to create a card and save stack using CGI script on Mac OSX. But I cannot save a stack. I made a stack createCd which had a card and a field, and set permissions to 777. CGI script was. #! /Library/webServer/CGI-Executables/revolution on startup open stack createCd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer put the time into fld 1 put fld 1 of cd 1 br after buffer create cd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer save stack createCd put the result after buffer close stack createCd put Content-Type: text/html cr put Content-Length: the length of buffer cr cr put buffer end startup Browser showed -- 1 12:20 PM 2 can't open stack backup file -- CGI script was working and made a card, but could not save a stack. What is can't open stack backup file? What was wrong? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I agree. iChat is nice, but the Rev community is very cross-platform. We need something that runs on ALL of the supported platforms that RunRev supports (with no code changes). It needs to share a common protocol and be capable of working from behind firewalls too. We would be like a Borg hive, continually working together to make our apps better until the day comes that we can no longer discern a difference between the reality around us and the code that makes it seem so real. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bulk mail sorting
On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: Has anyone worked on creating software to sort mail to achieve US Post Office bulk rates, in particular sorting by carrier route? no but the CD the USPS puts out is very easy to parse so if you have the data, you can combine with the addresses and then just sort. Should be a simple matter of coding :-) . Kee Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would be like a Borg hive, continually working together to make our apps better until the day comes that we can no longer discern a difference between the reality around us and the code that makes it seem so real. OK. Maybe I'm rethinking this ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Determining type of drive a file is on
On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:26 PM, kee nethery wrote: How about: Get a list of all the attached volumes, names and sizes See if the USB drive that you initialized is visible and see if it is the same size as what you configured it to be. Then see that you are running from that volume. Not fool proof but it's a start. If you have a way to read a specific block on the drive, you could use that data to provide yet another check. Put a tiny 1K file on the drive, add your file to the drive. Delete the 1K file. It will look like there is just your drive but if they duplicate the whole thing to another USB key, that 1K blank space won't be there. That sounds like a great idea. Any suggestions on how to read a specific block on a drive? Does Rev have a built in way to do this or would it require an external? No idea how to do it but I don't think it is a USB thing, I think it would be an access the disk drive thing and your code would probably need to be aware of which OS it was running. Might be custom code to extend Rev per platform using standard OS calls, might be some access using a shell script. No idea. Kee ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Stack Problem
Kenji, My guess is that you don't have write permission to that directory. You'll need to save the stack to another directory, or grant write access to the CGI-Executables folder, (the latter being a bit of a security no-no). Hope that helps, Brian Hi, I am trying to create a card and save stack using CGI script on Mac OSX. But I cannot save a stack. I made a stack createCd which had a card and a field, and set permissions to 777. CGI script was. #! /Library/webServer/CGI-Executables/revolution on startup open stack createCd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer put the time into fld 1 put fld 1 of cd 1 br after buffer create cd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer save stack createCd put the result after buffer close stack createCd put Content-Type: text/html cr put Content-Length: the length of buffer cr cr put buffer end startup Browser showed -- 1 12:20 PM 2 can't open stack backup file -- CGI script was working and made a card, but could not save a stack. What is can't open stack backup file? What was wrong? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I agree. iChat is nice, but the Rev community is very cross-platform. iChat uses the AIM service, for which there are compatible clients for Mac, Win, and AFAIK Linux. I guess Rev's Irix users may be out of luck. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corruption from images
Graham Samuels' experience very closely parallels mine, except that we couldn't open the app on any Windows machines and so never had a chance to crash. I wonder if our 0,0 error and his no resources error are the same? Graham wrote: Clearly one could blame Windows for being sensitive to corruption and having no error-reporting mechanism... Yes, let's do! OS X handled the corruption with grace and generosity, while Windows tore up everybody's life over it. Typical. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iChat is nice, but the Rev community is very cross-platform. We need something that runs on ALL of the supported platforms that RunRev supports (with no code changes). Seems to me a client that supports multiple services would be useful. Chipp Walters introduced me to Fire, a multi-service chat client for OSX. So far it has worked well for me with iChat. http://fire.sourceforge.net/ Also came across this, though I haven't used it. http://www.proteusx.com/ Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
iChat uses the AIM service, for which there are compatible clients for Mac, Win, and AFAIK Linux. I guess Rev's Irix users may be out of luck. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation You say Irix users (plural)??? There is actually an Irix port of the Linux gAim chat thingie. It works, but its gui looks terrible because of font issues. The text is unreadable. Irix aside though, I primarily use Windows 2000 from behind a corporate firewall. Aim is blocked. Streaming is blocked. Downloading MP3 or WAV files is blocked. It's like a giant fun filter to force work to happen. Anyway, as Troy suggested, something built-in to the dev environment would be great. And having it communicate over the standard port 80 with a new rev-chat-specific protocol would accommodate the firewall requirement and prevent it from being filtered out. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
Check out AIM's web site: there is a Java client that runs from inside a web browser. Very cross-platform (I think I've seen it in use under Solaris, for example). On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:56, Richard Gaskin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious why Tuviah's chatter stacks haven't been improved and implemented into a user community builder. I agree. iChat is nice, but the Rev community is very cross-platform. iChat uses the AIM service, for which there are compatible clients for Mac, Win, and AFAIK Linux. I guess Rev's Irix users may be out of luck. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Data Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Get It Now At www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
Resistance is futile. ;-) M On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:49 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would be like a Borg hive, continually working together to make our apps better until the day comes that we can no longer discern a difference between the reality around us and the code that makes it seem so real. OK. Maybe I'm rethinking this ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Print Unicode?
--- Michael D Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Rev print unicode? And if it can how? I would like to be able to print mathmatical operators and such in a line of 'text' such as A ¢À B (A 'union' B) I can display the formula with the 'union' character in a field, but nothing is printed Thanks, Michael Hi Michael, Have you tried using the revPrintField command to print the contents of the field ? Also, is this on Windows, Mac, ... ? Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error message running Drawers
--- Bruce Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richmond, I downloaded your Drawers stack but get an error message: executing at 6:44:26 PM TypeHandler: can't find handler ObjectOPEN Linedrawer DROP Hintdrawer I'm running Rev 2.0 on Mac OSX 10.2.8 What am I doing wrong? Bruce Hi Bruce, The 'drawer' command was introduced in Revolution 2.1 so the stack won't work under Revolution 2.0 Sorry to disappoint you, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to add Database Library to CGI engine?
--- Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, Uh... my MC engine for Linux is failing on revOpenDatabase, I assume this is due to a lack of the library itself for the error is like handler unknown... is there any trick to add DB support to a CGI? Man... I should know better... andre Hi Andre, The last published Revolution cgi-engines can be found at : ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/2.0/cgi These should support revdb calls ; the only tricky part may be that you'll have to copy the database drivers from a full Linux distribution, and use the revSetDatabaseDriverPath command to point to the right location. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to set version number for Win standalone?
I am having a problem with the displayed version number in my Windows standalone, created using v 2.1.2 on Mac OSX and then transferred to Win XP. The following is what I did when I set up the standalone in Distribution Builder, Windows tab: File description: Version 1.0 Then clicked button: other version info and entered the following Comments: Version 1.0 File version: Version 1.0 Product version: Version 1.0 Built the distribution, took it to Win XP and then examined it under Win XP When I simply look at file on Win XP desktop, says Version 1.0 (dimmed text) below name. With a mouse rollover over the filename the following is displayed: Description: Version 1.0 File version 2.4.2.1 Huh If I then right click on the icon and select properties: Right click-- properties-- GENERAL tab Type of file: application Description: Version 1.0 VERSION tab File version 2.4.2.1---Huh??? Description: Version 1.0 In scrolling list Highlighted (selected item) What is shown Comments: Version 1.0 File version: Version 1.0 Product version: Version 1.0 Where is the version 2.4.2.1 coming from and, more importantly, how do I get rid of it? This was reported as a bug by one of my beta testers (who was trying to figure out what version he had in order to report another problem) and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to fix it. Thanks! M ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set version number for Win standalone?
This refers to the metaCard version upon which Rev is built. I am unaware of a way of modifying it. /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Web: www.FlexibleLearning.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T/F: +44(0)1483.27 87 27 Where is the version 2.4.2.1 coming from and, more importantly, how do I get rid of it? This was reported as a bug by one of my beta testers (who was trying to figure out what version he had in order to report another problem) and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to fix it. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set version number for Win standalone?
Ok. At least I can stop trying. Thanks. M On Aug 3, 2004, at 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This refers to the metaCard version upon which Rev is built. I am unaware of a way of modifying it. /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Web: www.FlexibleLearning.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T/F: +44(0)1483.27 87 27 Where is the version 2.4.2.1 coming from and, more importantly, how do I get rid of it? This was reported as a bug by one of my beta testers (who was trying to figure out what version he had in order to report another problem) and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to fix it. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Chatters? Revisited
On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would be like a Borg hive, continually working together to make our apps better until the day comes that we can no longer discern a difference between the reality around us and the code that makes it seem so real. Puts me in mind of Second Life (www.secondlife.com), a Windows and Mac 3D world simulation. It happens to be the focus of my first Rev project. The game has auctions for its (virtual) land and there have been discussions in SL over how those are changing. (Land Barons buying up all the land, prices climbing, sky is falling, yadda, yadda, yadda...) My project parses through the HTML auction result pages to strip out all the available information and formats it for input into a MySQL database. Then I can query the DB from Rev to datamine for interesting information. Right now, the stack only parses and queries... But I see that the tools to do EVERY step are in there. I'll have to code it to fetch the HTML pages and add the data to the DB to keep the data up-to-date. Anyone have a prefab data graphing tool? If a great one exists I might use it, but I've got no problem making my own. I've done it before in Hypercard, so it should be trivial in Revolution. Oh and if anyone checks out Second Life (7-day free trial, one-time $9.95 price to play for life) look me up there. I'm Tiger Crossing. Its combination of graphics and scripting might feel very familiar to Rev users, though the graphics are 3D and the coding is in a different language... ~ Chris Innanen ~ Nonsanity ~ ( Tiger Crossing ) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Stack Problem
Brian, Thanks, your advices. It does not work on Mac OSX, but works on Windows. I made a new stack and put it into the CGI-Executables folder. And tried CGI script, but did not work. How can I make grant write access to the CGI-Executables folder? I wanted to make a address book which was written from Web browser. I installed same CGI script and a stack onto Windows XP and Apache 2 server. I changed only one line that was: #! C:/Apache Group/apache2/bin/revolution.exe And did not set permissions of the stack. It worked. I want to use Mac OSX, because Windows server is not mine. Can anybody explain why I cannot save a stack on Mac OSX? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Aug 3, 2004, at 12:52 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: Kenji, My guess is that you don't have write permission to that directory. You'll need to save the stack to another directory, or grant write access to the CGI-Executables folder, (the latter being a bit of a security no-no). Hope that helps, Brian Hi, I am trying to create a card and save stack using CGI script on Mac OSX. But I cannot save a stack. I made a stack createCd which had a card and a field, and set permissions to 777. CGI script was. #! /Library/webServer/CGI-Executables/revolution on startup open stack createCd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer put the time into fld 1 put fld 1 of cd 1 br after buffer create cd put the num of cds of this stack br after buffer save stack createCd put the result after buffer close stack createCd put Content-Type: text/html cr put Content-Length: the length of buffer cr cr put buffer end startup Browser showed -- 1 12:20 PM 2 can't open stack backup file -- CGI script was working and made a card, but could not save a stack. What is can't open stack backup file? What was wrong? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Bulk mail sorting
If you are trying to get the best possible rates you need a lot more than CR. You also have to have your addresses PAVE certified and CASS processed. Barcodes for labels and tray/sack tags need to be generated. Government style reports created, and sorting rules beyond measure. Just take a look at the bulk rate section of the Domestic Mail Manual at the USPS site. The USPS does provide data bases (at a subscription cost) and the software created using the tables needs to be approved by a post office testing procedure. It's all very ugly. We plan on attempting it sometime in the future but for now we use commercial software. A couple of providers are Melissa Data and Datatech Smartsoft. If you plan to go ahead let me know as we may be able to work together as this is a future project for us also... Dave LeYanna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kee nethery Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:41 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Bulk mail sorting On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: Has anyone worked on creating software to sort mail to achieve US Post Office bulk rates, in particular sorting by carrier route? no but the CD the USPS puts out is very easy to parse so if you have the data, you can combine with the addresses and then just sort. Should be a simple matter of coding :-) . Kee Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: which engine for OS X CGI
Brian, thanks, I'll go looking... Cheers, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set version number for Win standalone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This refers to the metaCard version upon which Rev is built. I am unaware of a way of modifying it. Where is the version 2.4.2.1 coming from and, more importantly, how do I get rid of it? This was reported as a bug by one of my beta testers (who was trying to figure out what version he had in order to report another problem) and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to fix it. The standalone builder in versions prior to Rev 2.2 had never modified the binary form of the version number, only the textual form. In Rev 2.2 and later this is fixed, thanks to Monte's dilligence. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Stack Problem
--- Kenji Kojima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Thanks, your advices. It does not work on Mac OSX, but works on Windows. I made a new stack and put it into the CGI-Executables folder. And tried CGI script, but did not work. How can I make grant write access to the CGI-Executables folder? I wanted to make a address book which was written from Web browser. I installed same CGI script and a stack onto Windows XP and Apache 2 server. I changed only one line that was: #! C:/Apache Group/apache2/bin/revolution.exe And did not set permissions of the stack. It worked. I want to use Mac OSX, because Windows server is not mine. Can anybody explain why I cannot save a stack on Mac OSX? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima Hi Kenji, It is probably working on Windows because Windows is not as strict as MacOSX when it comes to permissions. The reason it fails at the point of making a backup file, is that when the engine saves a stack, it first makes a copy of the original stack, so that if corruption occurs, you can retrieve your last saved version from thart backup file. But if the engine doesn't have the right to write files in the directory where the stack resides, it cannot create the backup. It is strongly recommended not to give write access to (a folder in) the cgi-excecutables folder. It is best to keep the data stack in a separate folder that isn't shared with the rest of the world, and set the right owner and permissions. You cazn do this from the Finder using the 'Get Info' item in the 'File' menu. In this window you will see a section 'Owner Privileges' where you can change the owner (if you happen to be the administrator of the machine) If my memory serves me well, you'll want to set the owner to the internal 'www' user, which is what the web server process Apache is running as. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Stack Problem
Jan I will try. Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Aug 3, 2004, at 4:18 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Kenji Kojima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Thanks, your advices. It does not work on Mac OSX, but works on Windows. I made a new stack and put it into the CGI-Executables folder. And tried CGI script, but did not work. How can I make grant write access to the CGI-Executables folder? I wanted to make a address book which was written from Web browser. I installed same CGI script and a stack onto Windows XP and Apache 2 server. I changed only one line that was: #! C:/Apache Group/apache2/bin/revolution.exe And did not set permissions of the stack. It worked. I want to use Mac OSX, because Windows server is not mine. Can anybody explain why I cannot save a stack on Mac OSX? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima Hi Kenji, It is probably working on Windows because Windows is not as strict as MacOSX when it comes to permissions. The reason it fails at the point of making a backup file, is that when the engine saves a stack, it first makes a copy of the original stack, so that if corruption occurs, you can retrieve your last saved version from thart backup file. But if the engine doesn't have the right to write files in the directory where the stack resides, it cannot create the backup. It is strongly recommended not to give write access to (a folder in) the cgi-excecutables folder. It is best to keep the data stack in a separate folder that isn't shared with the rest of the world, and set the right owner and permissions. You cazn do this from the Finder using the 'Get Info' item in the 'File' menu. In this window you will see a section 'Owner Privileges' where you can change the owner (if you happen to be the administrator of the machine) If my memory serves me well, you'll want to set the owner to the internal 'www' user, which is what the web server process Apache is running as. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Stack Problem
Jan, It is strongly recommended not to give write access to (a folder in) the cgi-excecutables folder. It is best to keep the data stack in a separate folder that isn't shared with the rest of the world, and set the right owner and permissions. You cazn do this from the Finder using the 'Get Info' item in the 'File' menu. In this window you will see a section 'Owner Privileges' where you can change the owner (if you happen to be the administrator of the machine) Yes, I did. I've been struggling this since last week. Thanks you very much, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set version number for Win standalone?
If the rest of my stacks (non-standalone, driven from the standalone splash screen) are all created in version 2.1.2, would there be any negative consequence to my using 2.2 to create the standalone that drives the others? (The standalone has no content except for a card that says Loading. Please wait.) I can't think of any problems this would introduce but wanted to be sure. Thanks. M On Aug 3, 2004, at 4:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The standalone builder in versions prior to Rev 2.2 had never modified the binary form of the version number, only the textual form. In Rev 2.2 and later this is fixed, thanks to Monte's dilligence. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
chat client
Scott Rossi wrote; Seems to me a client that supports multiple services would be useful. Chipp Walters introduced me to Fire, a multi-service chat client for OSX. So far it has worked well for me with iChat. http://fire.sourceforge.net/ Also came across this, though I haven't used it. http://www.proteusx.com/ I've used all those, and Adium (AIM only). If you need to include Yahoo chat for some reason, these are the choices for Mac users. The Fire bunch was at it first and then have progressed from a pleasant and imaginative application that didn't work to an even more pleasant and imaginative one that does. Proteus is alright too, but they have been following Fire so my sympathies are with Fire. But if you don't really need Yahoo (do you?), Netscape will run across AIM and ICQ, which is marginally more useful. I have put Tuvah's stack into several applications and it works like a charm. Very simple. Everybody can use it to make their own clients. But it is P2P, somebody has to run the server all the time (or a tracker, anyway). ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
unresponsive menus
im an old HC¹er, using OS 9 on an iMac. i have just downloaded the RR trial version. RR opens fine. i select the ³Help² menu ... then i see menuItem ³Documentation cmd-?² so i try cmd-? ... nothing happens but cmd-shift-? works ... is this a bug? i see there is no ³checkmark² beside the menuItem ³Documentation² in ³Help² menu when the ³Documentation² window is open. is this a bug? ... the menuItems in the ³View² menu have checkmarks! so then i select menuItem ³Transcript Dictionary² in menu ³Help² ... nothing happens. is this a bug? i close the Documentation window. select menuItem ³Transcript Dictionary² in menu ³Help² ... this works ... and very nice too i might add ... but no checkMark beside the menuItem. is this a bug? then i select menuItem ³Documentation² in the ³Help² menu ... nothing happens ... is this a bug? is someone going to address these in the current beta version ? moe ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Print Unicode?
I'm on a Mac. revprintField prints everything in the filed except for the unicode. The way I put the unicode into the field is via Apple's Character Palette. Michael On Aug 3, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Michael D Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Rev print unicode? And if it can how? I would like to be able to print mathmatical operators and such in a line of 'text' such as A ¢À B (A 'union' B) I can display the formula with the 'union' character in a field, but nothing is printed Thanks, Michael Hi Michael, Have you tried using the revPrintField command to print the contents of the field ? Also, is this on Windows, Mac, ... ? Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I allow quotation marks in input text?
I've got a field into which users enter questions for a game, but single and double quotation marks don't display properly later when they appear in the game. They become boxes. Is this a font issue? I've tried several fonts. I thought it was because the quotation marks were reserved characters, but they don't end the display of the string as I'd expect if they were. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted Files in OS X
Hello everyone, I apologize in advance if this, being observed with MC, is not directly relevant to Rev, but I suspect it is. A week or so ago I wrote in about corrupted MC stack files, where a tilde (~) was being appended to the mc extension of the file residing in the Mac OS folder of the application package of a standalone (what a mouthful that was...). One of the list members, Wouter, responded that mc~ files are temps or backups the engine makes when there is a crash or corruption. In my case, it appears that the problem was caused by an attempt to write output to the Shared folder. Redirecting output to another folder within the current account fixed it. My question now is whether it is possible to write to the Shared folder. It has read-write permission assigned to everyone. So, why the problem? Gregory Lypny __ Associate Professor of Finance John Molson School of Business Concordia University Montreal, Quebec Canada ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MoireX 2.0
on Sun Aug 1 2004 MisterX wrote: Hi again, I updated the links, Added the executable... Made a couple last changes to the stack regarding the cursor... and a few more tricks ;) Great work! Xavier :-)) I'll like that the instructions were in a flat color. Multicolored letters are somewhat difficult to read over some colored backgrounds Would you include the handlers to export the vector graphics as svg,adobe ilustrator or pdf? In this way the user could have the option to export the screen content. By the way, the beautiful radial gradations, Are vectors graphics too? Keep up your good work! al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
I just ask for feedback on PDF readers error messages on linux and mac os x Alejandro, I for one am very appreciative of your work in this area. PDF output needs to become as easy as printing. As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). That is a costly solution, and cannot be bundled as a part of our own creations, making it even more important to achieve this capability within Rev. I tested your vector2pdf with Acrobat 5 (full) and Acrobat Reader 6 on Win2000. In both cases the PDF files opened and displayed correct color filled objects. I look forward to text functionality, even in its simplest form would be S useful! Let me know if I can assist with testing or providing sample PDF files created with various programs. Thanks. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). Or, a Mac. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
As a matter of fact, that is one way of getting a PDF out of a Rev stack (if you own Adobe Acrobat - not reader). Or, a Mac. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. Yet another cost-prohibitive factor. ;-p Also, did you know that PDF files from the rendering engine bundled in OS X are not Adobe compliant? For simple document exchange, they are ok. but in commercial prepress we have to rely on Adobe Distiller to convert postscript files to a usable format. ~Roger ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another cost-prohibitive factor. ;-p Also, did you know that PDF files from the rendering engine bundled in OS X are not Adobe compliant? For simple document exchange, they are ok. but in commercial prepress we have to rely on Adobe Distiller to convert postscript files to a usable format. Oh yeah. I have Acrobat Pro for those instances too. I know what you mean. But the ability to just print a pretty decent PDF from anything that can print is pretty handy. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rawkeydown rawkeyup (was : 2 more questions aboutoperationson text in fields)
On 8/2/04 4:21 PM, jbv wrote: J. Landman Gay a *crit : On 8/2/04 1:56 PM, jbv wrote: BTW rawkeydown and rawkeyup both work, but then, how do you map the raw keynumber with the corresponding char ? the numtochar can't be used in this situation... Good question. I usually only use it when I need to trap specific keys, and I build a switch statement around those. If you need to trap every key then you may be better off with your other solution. What is the goal for this handler? Well, it would be a bit too long to explain... I guess an example is better (please note that I finally used a third option - it is not fully implemented yet, but it'll give you an idea). I see. That's kind of cool. I think you are right though that trapping rawkeydown wouldn't work too well. I'm glad you found another solution because I can't think of a better one. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
on Tue Aug 3 2004 Roger.E.Eller wrote: I tested your vector2pdf with Acrobat 5 (full) and Acrobat Reader 6 on Win2000. In both cases the PDF files opened and displayed correct color filled objects. This is great to know! Thanks! Did you try to print or save as pdf from Acrobat? These are my results in informal test: In Acrobat 5, when i modify and try to save the file it warns about an error that could not be repaired. And the file do not save... In Adobe ilustrator, this pdf is dismissed as damaged and is not opened. Freehand opens this pdf without problems. I look forward to text functionality, even in its simplest form would be S useful! I agree. Because of the encodings required by text it takes more time to test and implement correctly. Let me know if I can assist with testing or providing sample PDF files created with various programs. Of course, if you could save these same set of vectors graphics as pdf from other applications, like ghostscript, corel, indesign, open office, etc..., you could compress all of them and send to my mail for inspection. If we want to make this adaptation happen faster, everybody could grab a copy of the pdf reference and start reading and experimenting. ;-) Thanks in advance. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New version of Revolution, Same standalone problems
Hello, kind and smart people of the Revolution list. I wonder if you could lend me a hand with a little head-scratching puzzler of a problem that I've been experiencing. When I create standalones, I'm getting problems with both Windows and Mac versions. The Windows standalone works except that it doesn't seem to recognize my Keyup handler (or Keydown for that matter). http://ultimate.atomkinder.net/VillageIdiot.exe The Mac standalone doesn't work at all. When I double-click to open it, it just does nothing. http://ultimate.atomkinder.net/VillageIdiot.sit Any ideas? Thanks so much for your help! -Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
