Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

2004-09-29 Thread Robert Brenstein
  I am pretty sure that there is always some process running under OSX
 that is not running under OS9. The question is whether this function
 will return only OS9-specific processes under Classic or all, classic
 and osx, processes. Can't check at the moment, though.
Sorry, I'm coming in a little late here... is the purpose to determine from
an application whether it is running in Classic mode or in true OS 9? Or
am I missing the question?
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Yes, we are indeed trying to find a reliable to know whether running 
under true OS9 or in Classic.

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Re: value of variable

2004-09-29 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Hershel,
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
I think it's because you put the string tab into the variable 
instead of the constant tab (ASCII 9). Does it work if you use

put tab into myVar
?
Yes, Thanks . But
on mouseUp
  answer What kink of file are you putting ? with Tab Delimited 
and Comma Delimited and Cancel--and on
  put word 1 of it into sFileType
  if sFileType is cancel then
exit mouseUp
  else
answer file a
put it  into fld f1
do  put URL  quote  file: it  quote  into fld   
quote  f1  quote
replace sFileType with ' in fld f1
  end if
end mouseUp
how would I do this ?
...
 replace value(sFileType) with ' in fld 1
...
Tested and works :-)
Hershel
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Re: contextual menu

2004-09-29 Thread Klaus Major
Hola Alejandro,
Klaus Major wrote:
Create a pop-up-menu button with all
themenupick handlers
you need and move this button OFF screen...
on mouseup quoi
  if quoi = 3 then
 popup btn your popup button here
  end if
end mouseup
will popup that button when the right
mouse-button is clicked
= control-click on a mac...
Hi Klaus,
Your recipe works perfectly, but
only in one card.
If i move to another card in the same stack
the pop up menu does not appear!
Could you give me a clue about what is
happening and how to fix it?
As Thierry already mentioned, grouping that button/making it
a background should do the job...
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Dates and rounding problem

2004-09-29 Thread david
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I get the date rounded to sometimes two, or sometime 3 hours after 
midnight (depending on which date I use). I'm on linux - and i figure 
it is something to do with the locale / timezone, but still - why the 
different rounding errors? 

Still don't get why, but can round doing the following:
   convert someDate to dateitems
   put 0 into item 4 of someDate
   convert somedate to seconds
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Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

2004-09-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Does open process accept parameters on any other platforms?  I didn't  
think it would...

Even so, check the docs on open process: they explicitly state that,  
quote (2.2.1 docs), On OS X systems, you can use the open process  
command to start up an application, but not a Unix process.

Thus I suspect that it is not broken, and not a bug, which is why it  
was never Bugzilla'd.

If you don't need to track the I/O from the process and simply want to  
start it up without waiting for its completion, you could try this:

put shell(my_command/dev/null 21 ) into forgotten_var
Otherwise, I'm not sure what you could (easily) use.
On Sep 28, 2004, at 7:49 PM, K wrote:
I now have Revolution 2.5.  Wow, sexy new look but I still do not seem  
to be unable to open process /usr/bin/xxx -param on MAC OS X.   
Please advise if there is some work around I am unaware of.

NOTE: I cannot seem to locate this bug in the bug database.  Since it  
is so significant I would assume someone would have posted it.

K
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Disclaimer:
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hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient.
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)


 --- On Tue 09/28, K  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X now?
brbrI am attempting to exec() several different unix applications.  
 I have written a external to does a double fork() exec() and alllows  
communication via stdin and stdout (buggy at the moment).  I would  
like to use open process since that is the generally supported method.  
 Previously the suggested fix was to use shell() however it is hardly  
interactive.brbrKevinbrbrbr-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 
==-=-=-=-=-=-brDisclaimer:brbrAny resemblance between the above  
views and those of mybremployer, my terminal, or the view out my  
window are purelybrcoincidental. brAny resemblance between the  
above and my own views is non-deterministic.brbr The question of  
the existence of views in the absence of anyone to holdbrthembris  
left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence  
ofbrthe readerbr is left as an exercise for the second god  
coefficient. br(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral  
polytheism is beyond thebrscope of t
 his article.)brbrbrbr --- On Tue 09/28, Ken Ray   
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]brTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brDate:  
Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:23:11 -0500brSubject: Re: Does open process work  
on OS X now?brbrWell, open process has always worked on OS X AFAIK  
- are you using it tobrlaunch an application, or is there something  
else you've been trying to dobrthat you weren't able to  
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Re: Can't read text from file on OS 9

2004-09-29 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/29/04 5:04 AM, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, we are indeed trying to find a reliable to know whether running
 under true OS9 or in Classic.

Here's what I use - it's run from a PPC application and it determines
whether the PPC app is running under Classic mode on OS X or under true OS
9. It needs to be done in two parts - the first part determines if the app
itself is an OS X app or not, and if not, it then checks the status of the
classic mode:

function InClassicMode
  -- First, check to see if we're running on OS X
  if the fileName of this stack contains Contents/MacOS/ then
return false
  else
-- Second, check to see if the process Classic Support is in the
-- current process list. This will be true when running in OS X Classic
-- mode, but will be false if running in OS 9.
-- If true, then the app is a PPC app and Classic Mode is running,
-- so it must be running in Classic Mode.
-- If false, then the app is a PPC app and Classic Mode is *not*
-- running, which would mean that the app is running in OS 9 and
-- not in Classic Mode.

put format(tell app \Finder\\nget the processes\nend tell) into tAS
do tAS as AppleScript
put format(process \Classic Support\) into tClassicProcName
return (the result contains tClassicProcName)
  end if
end InClassicMode

HTH,

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Accessing parts of arrays

2004-09-29 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone,
In doing some statistical work, it occurred to me that Revolution's 
arrays would be greatly enhanced if we could access sub-arrays just 
like we can with itemized and line-delimited lists.

For example, in a comma-delimited list of the natural numbers, 1 to 10, 
we can compute the average of any subset of the numbers using the 
average() function:

put 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 into x
put average(item 1 to 4 of x)  \
average(x)  \
average(item 1 to 8 of x) --yields 2.5, 5.5 and 4.5.
But as far as I know, we cannot refer to element 1 to 4 of array x, and 
we can only take the average of all the values in x to get 5.5 as 
below.

multiply t by 0
repeat 10 times
add 1 to t
put t into x[t]
end repeat
put average(x) -- yields 5.5
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Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

2004-09-29 Thread K


I can find nothing easy at this point.  I am still working on a external that will 
double fork exec on unix/ CreateProcess on windows and allows full stdin and stdout 
access. 

Kevin


-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-
Disclaimer:

Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



 --- On Wed 09/29, Frank D. Engel, Jr.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: Frank D. Engel, Jr. [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:53:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X now?

Does open process accept parameters on any other platforms?  I didn't  brthink it 
would...brbrEven so, check the docs on open process: they explicitly state that, 
 brquote (2.2.1 docs), On OS X systems, you can use the open process  brcommand 
to start up an application, but not a Unix process.brbrbrThus I suspect that it 
is not broken, and not a bug, which is why it  brwas never Bugzilla'd.brbrIf you 
don't need to track the I/O from the process and simply want to  brstart it up 
without waiting for its completion, you could try this:brbrput shell(my_command  
  /dev/null 21 ) into forgotten_varbrbrbrOtherwise, I'm not sure what you 
could (easily) use.brbrOn Sep 28, 2004, at 7:49 PM, K wrote:brbrbr I now 
have Revolution 2.5.  Wow, sexy new look but I still do not seem  br to be unable 
to open process /usr/bin/xxx -param on MAC OS X.   br Please advise if there is 
some work around I am unaware of.brbrbr NOT
 E: I cannot seem to locate this bug in the bug database.  Since it  br is so 
significant I would assume someone would have posted it.brbr Kbrbrbr 
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resemblance between the above views and those of mybr employer, my terminal, or the 
view out my window are purelybr coincidental.br Any resemblance between the 
above and my own views is  br non-deterministic.brbr  The question of the 
existence of views in the absence of anyone to  br holdbr thembr is left as 
an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence ofbr the readerbr  is 
left as an exercise for the second god coefficient.br (A discussion of 
non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond thebr scope of this 
article.)brbrbrbr  --- On Tue 09/28, K  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:br 
From: K [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br Date: Tue, 2
 8 Sep 2004 16:01:25 -0400 (EDT)br Subject: Re: Does open process work on OS X 
now?brbr brbrI am attempting to exec() several different unix applications.  
br  I have written a external to does a double fork() exec() and alllows  br 
communication via stdin and stdout (buggy at the moment).  I would  br like to use 
open process since that is the generally supported method.  br  Previously the 
suggested fix was to use shell() however it is hardly  br 
interactive.brbrKevinbrbrbr-==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- br 
==-=-=-=-=-=-brDisclaimer:brbrAny resemblance between the above  br views and 
those of mybremployer, my terminal, or the view out my  br window are 
purelybrcoincidental. brAny resemblance between the  br above and my own views 
is non-deterministic.brbr The question of  br the existence of views in the 
absence of anyone to holdbrthembris  br left as an exercise for the reader. The 
question of the 
 existence  br ofbrthe readerbr is left as an exercise for the second god  
br coefficient. br(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral  br polytheism 
is beyond thebrscope of tbr  his article.)brbrbrbr --- On Tue 09/28, Ken 
Ray   br [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:brFrom: Ken Ray [mailto:  br [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]brTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brDate:  br Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:23:11 
-0500brSubject: Re: Does open process work  br on OS X now?brbrWell, open 
process has always worked on OS X AFAIK  br - are you using it tobrlaunch an 
application, or is there something  br else you've been trying to dobrthat you 
weren't able to  br do?brbrKen RaybrSons of Thunder SoftwarebrWeb site:  
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XPATH XML Library

2004-09-29 Thread K


HAs anyone written a XML library supporting XPATH queries?

Kevin


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Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

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them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I picked up a Kensington Wireless Presentation Remote today in hopes of 
using it when presenting at Rev seminars like http://techietours.com.

But while Kensington normally makes pretty good stuff, the manual only 
says Works with most presentation software like PowerPoint and 
Keynote, and it doesn't say what events it's sending.  Since I make my 
own presentations in Rev I need to know what events it uses so I can 
write handlers for them.

Here's the weird part:
I made a fresh stack and put in rawKeyDown, rawKeyUp, appleEvent, 
arrowKey, functionKey, keyDown and keyUp handlers -- none of them get 
triggered when I try using the wireless device.
Don't know why (probably just user error here), but today I tried
rawKeyDown again and it works.  Kinda fun. So it's really easy to write
apps that support standard wireless presentation devices -
Here's how the buttons match up to their keyboard equivalents on the
Kensington model:
   laser pointer
 /
   [*]
   rawKeyDown 65365 -  [] [] - rawKeyDown 65366
   Key: Page DownKey: Page Up
   Action: Previous Slide  [.]   Action: Next Slide
 \
  rawKeyDown 98
  Key: b
  Action: Blank Screen
Kensington says these are the standard controls that drive
presentation apps, including Keynote and PowerPoint.   It's nice to see
reasonable conventions universally applied.  Given all the hardware out 
there that supports these it may be useful to adopt them in your own 
software if you're making a presentation tool.

With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all
of our presentations for Malta? :)
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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Sounds like fun.  If I ever get any free time again and feel bored, I 
might try it...

It shouldn't be too hard.  Create a stack with each slide on a 
different card, hide the title bar, hide the menu bar/dock, and set the 
stack so that it is centered with a size matching that of the screen.  
Scale the contents accordingly...

Put those controls in a rawKeyDown handler in the stack script, and 
bingo?

On Sep 29, 2004, at 2:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I picked up a Kensington Wireless Presentation Remote today in hopes 
of using it when presenting at Rev seminars like 
http://techietours.com.
But while Kensington normally makes pretty good stuff, the manual 
only says Works with most presentation software like PowerPoint and 
Keynote, and it doesn't say what events it's sending.  Since I make 
my own presentations in Rev I need to know what events it uses so I 
can write handlers for them.
Here's the weird part:
I made a fresh stack and put in rawKeyDown, rawKeyUp, appleEvent, 
arrowKey, functionKey, keyDown and keyUp handlers -- none of them get 
triggered when I try using the wireless device.
Don't know why (probably just user error here), but today I tried
rawKeyDown again and it works.  Kinda fun. So it's really easy to write
apps that support standard wireless presentation devices -
Here's how the buttons match up to their keyboard equivalents on the
Kensington model:
   laser pointer
 /
   [*]
   rawKeyDown 65365 -  [] [] - rawKeyDown 65366
   Key: Page DownKey: Page Up
   Action: Previous Slide  [.]   Action: Next Slide
 \
  rawKeyDown 98
  Key: b
  Action: Blank Screen
Kensington says these are the standard controls that drive
presentation apps, including Keynote and PowerPoint.   It's nice to see
reasonable conventions universally applied.  Given all the hardware 
out there that supports these it may be useful to adopt them in your 
own software if you're making a presentation tool.

With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all
of our presentations for Malta? :)
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Type in upper case

2004-09-29 Thread Ludovic Thébault
Hello,

I want the user type in upper case.
I've made a script with the keyup handler to convert lower letter in 
upper letter, but the conversion is visible.

How make the conversion in the keydown handler ? 

thanks


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Re: About menu item

2004-09-29 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 11:56 AM +0200 9/27/2004, Carlo Ricchiardi wrote:
how do I attach an action to the about... menu item in the main 
menu bar of a standalone?
(MacOSX 10.3.5, Rev 2.5, no menu bar defined in the rev stack)
You need to define a menu bar first. In the Help menu, the last two 
items should be a separator line and your About menu item. (It's 
done this way for cross-platform compatibility. On Windows and Unix, 
the About item is in the Help menu; on Mac OS and OS X, it's 
automatically moved to the proper place in the Apple menu or 
application menu.)

The menuPick handler for your Help menu will then respond to choosing 
the About menu item, no matter where it's displayed on the current 
platform.


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It's at http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/. To enter comments 
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Re: Accessing parts of arrays

2004-09-29 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 12:07 PM -0400 9/29/2004, Gregory Lypny wrote:
In doing some statistical work, it occurred to me that Revolution's 
arrays would be greatly enhanced if we could access sub-arrays just 
like we can with itemized and line-delimited lists.
I agree it's a good idea. It might be harder than it looks, because 
all Rev's arrays are associative arrays (what look like numeric 
arrays are actually associative), so I suspect some major reworking 
would be needed.
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Re: create Profile via script?

2004-09-29 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 11:33 AM -0600 9/28/2004, Leston Drake wrote:
I was wondering (hoping) if there is a command to create a new 
profile for an object using script. I have a bunch of fields in a 
stack that I need to create an additional profile for, and don't 
really want to do it by hand.
Check out the revProfile property. If you set an object's revProfile 
to a nonexistent profile, it will be created. (This requires that you 
check the Create Profiles Automatically box in Preferences first.)
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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all
of our presentations for Malta? :)
Richard,
I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation Generator 
app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my website.  I 
would consider making the app open source if there would be interest in 
this from others.  I wrote it many moons ago and it could use some 
updating, but the software works and does a good job of it.  I have 
many ideas to make it better though.

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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Count me in.
Tom
On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all
of our presentations for Malta? :)
Richard,
I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation 
Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my 
website.  I would consider making the app open source if there would 
be interest in this from others.  I wrote it many moons ago and it 
could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job of 
it.  I have many ideas to make it better though.

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Can table-cell borders be invisible?

2004-09-29 Thread RGould8
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have table-cell borders that are 
invisible?   I've seen controls to turn the outside border on and off, but not 
the inner borders around the cells.   Setting the bordercolor of the cells to 
the background color semi-works, but leaves lines on top of my highlighted line 
in the field when I do that.
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Re: Accessing parts of arrays

2004-09-29 Thread jbv


 At 12:07 PM -0400 9/29/2004, Gregory Lypny wrote:
 In doing some statistical work, it occurred to me that Revolution's
 arrays would be greatly enhanced if we could access sub-arrays just
 like we can with itemized and line-delimited lists.

 I agree it's a good idea. It might be harder than it looks, because
 all Rev's arrays are associative arrays (what look like numeric
 arrays are actually associative), so I suspect some major reworking
 would be needed.
 --

another interesting feature would be some sort of find function
for arrays... for instance :
put myText into T[5,8]
find myText in T   would return 5,8
 or a list of found chunks
if it is in more
 than 1 array cell

I know this can be emulated using the combine function, and then
itemoffset of lineoffset, but it would be more elegant (and probably
faster).
And I don't think this means a major rewriting...

JB

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Re: Linux Audio

2004-09-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
Sorry, never tested this under my Suse 8.2 configs :-(
Le 29 sept. 04, à 17:23, David Quinn-Jacobs a écrit :
Are there any other Linux developers who have had success playing 
audio files and/or clips? If so, could someone send a sample audio 
file to me, or perhaps some good advice?  I have tried multiple 
formats (as suggested by tech support and on this list) on multiple 
RedHat/Fedora configurations without success.

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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
I think there is some good documentation about this at SourceForge; you 
might want to check there.

Basically, you pick a license, apply it to your code, and release it.
CVS is one solution to manage multiple contributors to code, but it 
might not work too well with Rev files -- it was intended for 
C/Pascal/Java-type code, which consists of plain-text files.  It chokes 
on binary files, like the ones used by Rev.  Not sure what you'd use 
for Rev.

On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Count me in.
Tom
On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that 
someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make 
all
of our presentations for Malta? :)
Richard,
I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation 
Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my 
website.  I would consider making the app open source if there would 
be interest in this from others.  I wrote it many moons ago and it 
could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job 
of it.  I have many ideas to make it better though.


I don't know anything about open sourcing a project.  I suppose a 
license needs to be selected.  Any suggestions?  How do we manage each 
other's contributions without overwriting other's work?

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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread david
Count me in - I've got some presentation stuff and a sourceforge account 
just waiting.
I've got a presentation to do as well.:)

Regarding the CVS stuff - I've wrapped CVS on linux in a bunch of shell 
code - so that it autosaves to CVS. Binaries won't take advantage of all 
of CVS features - so it's good to save some or all of the key bits out 
as text files. Scripts are obviously the key. I've got some code for 
exporting stacks to XML as a couple of others have which allows you to 
take full advantage of CVS.

david

Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
I think there is some good documentation about this at SourceForge; 
you might want to check there.

Basically, you pick a license, apply it to your code, and release it.
CVS is one solution to manage multiple contributors to code, but it 
might not work too well with Rev files -- it was intended for 
C/Pascal/Java-type code, which consists of plain-text files.  It 
chokes on binary files, like the ones used by Rev.  Not sure what 
you'd use for Rev.

On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Count me in.
Tom
On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that 
someone
will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in
Transcript.  Any chance we could toss one together in time to make 
all
of our presentations for Malta? :)

Richard,
I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation 
Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to 
my website.  I would consider making the app open source if there 
would be interest in this from others.  I wrote it many moons ago 
and it could use some updating, but the software works and does a 
good job of it.  I have many ideas to make it better though.


I don't know anything about open sourcing a project.  I suppose a 
license needs to be selected.  Any suggestions?  How do we manage 
each other's contributions without overwriting other's work?

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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote:
I don't know anything about open sourcing a project.  I suppose a 
license needs to be selected.  Any suggestions?  How do we manage each 
other's contributions without overwriting other's work?
The technical aspects are simple.  The hard part is the sociological
side of the workflow.  :)
Managing teamwork can be simple or complex depending on team size.  With 
the MC IDE project we have fewer than a dozen contributors, and find 
that simply communicating via the MC discussion list works fine. 
Feature requests are posted there, and when approved an owner for that 
task is identified and we all know not to monkey with those parts until 
the next build.

Changes are sent to the project manager (currently me), preferably as
cloned out stack files.  It's easy to delete the originals from the
master copy and clone the stack files in as substacks, and then it gets
posted for testing.
Because of the simplicity of the workflow, the MC IDE project (and other
open source Rev projects like libIPC) can be hosted at Yahoo Groups,
since all we really need is a simple place for folks to download builds.
If there's a lot of activity and a larger number of contributors, you
could consider making your own check-in/check-out system to handle such
things.  Ken made one in an afternoon for a project he's working on, and
I've been tempted to make one for the MC IDE project but just haven't
needed it (it would take more time than simply managing it by hand does 
now).

If you're interested in a more complete implementation, Chipp's made a
great one with MagicCarpet:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetCover/default.htm
Some folks like CVS, and while it's great at what it does it's really
designed for old-school development workflows involving hundreds of tiny
text files.  IMHO, with Rev's object model teamwork is best factored 
along stacks and substacks, and anything more granular just opens up a 
lot of opportunities for poor factoring and less productive team 
management.  With Rev's built-in FTP and HTTP and the clone command it's 
not hard to automate stack management if needed.

That's the simple stuff; it's the social stuff is where it
gets complex.  But that's a whole other discussion :)
PS - About licenses:  I really like the X11 license for a great many 
reasons that would only take this thread further OT if explored here. 
Feel free to give me a call or we can discuss it at the next SoCal RUG 
meeting.

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I'm desperate -- my app size exploded and I don't know why!

2004-09-29 Thread Frank Leahy
All,
I went to release a new version and my app size exploded from 3.5MB to 
7.5MB!

I noticed that the increase is due to the fact that my project has 
increased by that amount.  But I don't know what has caused it -- I 
haven't added any images, or anything that I can think of.

Any ideas how I can look for what's taking all the space?  I've run 
Chipp's altCleaner, but that stuff gets removed by the Standalone 
Builder anyway.  And I've tried Klaus 2lz2 stack.

What should I be looking for?  Properties?  Text?  It's not images, I 
know that.  Any ideas?

Please copy me if you reply because I get the digest version, and I'd 
love to go to bed sooner than tomorrow morning!

Thanks in advance,
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Re: I'm desperate -- my app size exploded and I don't know why!

2004-09-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank Leahy wrote:
All,
I went to release a new version and my app size exploded from 3.5MB to 
7.5MB!

I noticed that the increase is due to the fact that my project has 
increased by that amount.  But I don't know what has caused it -- I 
haven't added any images, or anything that I can think of.

Any ideas how I can look for what's taking all the space?  I've run 
Chipp's altCleaner, but that stuff gets removed by the Standalone 
Builder anyway.  And I've tried Klaus 2lz2 stack.

What should I be looking for?  Properties?  Text?  It's not images, I 
know that.  Any ideas?
Did any images get left in your stacks from testing?
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Re: create Profile via script?

2004-09-29 Thread Leston Drake
Thanks Jeane. I tried that w/o knowing about the Preference option (so it 
didn't create it). I also found that there is a revNewProfile 
(undocumented) command that does the same thing.

--Leston
At 01:07 PM 9/29/2004, you wrote:
At 11:33 AM -0600 9/28/2004, Leston Drake wrote:
I was wondering (hoping) if there is a command to create a new profile 
for an object using script. I have a bunch of fields in a stack that I 
need to create an additional profile for, and don't really want to do it 
by hand.
Check out the revProfile property. If you set an object's revProfile to a 
nonexistent profile, it will be created. (This requires that you check the 
Create Profiles Automatically box in Preferences first.)
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Found it!

2004-09-29 Thread Frank Leahy
Sorry for the previous interruption, I found the problem.  It was a 
huge htmlText in one field -- 5MB worth!

Thanks,
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Re: Dates and rounding problem

2004-09-29 Thread SimPLsol
David,
Revolution does some unusual things with dates. Here are a few of the 
gotchas I've encountered:
1. Days start at 2 am?!?
2. Days when the local time switches from or to daylight time start at 1 or 3 
am?
3. Most days have 86400 seconds - except for the switch from or to daylight 
time which have 23 or 25 hours worth of seconds?

You didn't ask but, no you are not losing your mind.
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Re: Accessing parts of arrays

2004-09-29 Thread Michael J. Lew
Maybe you could use the intersect command to split out subarrays. 
Otherwise, remember that you can easily combing an array by comma and 
then use the average(item 1 to 4 of x) approach.

At 6:23 PM -0400 29/9/04, Greg wrote:
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Hello everyone,
In doing some statistical work, it occurred to me that Revolution's
arrays would be greatly enhanced if we could access sub-arrays just
like we can with itemized and line-delimited lists.
For example, in a comma-delimited list of the natural numbers, 1 to 10,
we can compute the average of any subset of the numbers using the
average() function:
put 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 into x
put average(item 1 to 4 of x)  \
average(x)  \
average(item 1 to 8 of x) --yields 2.5, 5.5 and 4.5.
But as far as I know, we cannot refer to element 1 to 4 of array x, and
we can only take the average of all the values in x to get 5.5 as
below.
multiply t by 0
repeat 10 times
add 1 to t
put t into x[t]
end repeat
put average(x) -- yields 5.5
	Greg
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Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved

2004-09-29 Thread david
Richards comments are pretty spot on IMO
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Some folks like CVS, and while it's great at what it does it's really
designed for old-school development workflows involving hundreds of tiny
text files. 
I like CVS for this reason. I can go to another computer do a cvs 
checkout and I get the entire development environment with not just Rev 
stacks but all the html files etc - hundred of them. Also deals with 
other code - php / python.

But the main reason is unlimited undo. I auto-save every few minutes and 
if I screw up I can go back to anywhere in time. If I'd been doing this 
in 1988 with HyperCard this could be quite fun :)

  With Rev's built-in FTP and HTTP and the clone command it's not hard 
to automate stack management if needed. 
This is all you need if you are aiming to manage a dozen or so stacks.
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Documentation windows won't appear.

2004-09-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
I don't know if I've managed to do something stupid, or if I've run into a 
bug 

Rev 2.5 (Dreamcard) on Win2000 : I can't get to see any of the documentation.
Each of:
 - menu Help/Documentation
 - Ctrl-?
 - menu Help / Topics - (any choice)
 - toolbar Documentation
 - right click on keyword in script editor
produce no visible effect, i.e. no documentation window.
When I click on the toolbar Documentation it briefly goes bold, then goes 
back to normal font; the main Rev window loses focus.

On the other hand, menu Help / Quick Ref - (any choice) all work fine.
Everything else seems to be working.
Is there something stupid I could have done (like setting the visible of 
stack revdocs to false) or is it likely to be a bug ?   (I have checked the 
visible and position/size of stack revdocs - anything else I should check ?)

Thanks for any suggestions
-- Alex.
I think it's been like this for a few days 
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Really simple date question?

2004-09-29 Thread david
In the message box:
   put the date into test
   convert test to dateitems
   put test
So why on my system do I get 2 in the hours item? Dalylight saving off 
and Greenwhich mean time set. Tested on windows and Linux?
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