Subject: Re: Christmas Special - we'll even solve your christmas shopping problem
Heather, The bears are priceless ;-) One question, however. Christmas is a mere 2 weeks away. Will US customers really get their bear by Christmas if ordered now? Yes, but you must order now, without delay. They will arrive by Royal Mail small packet delivery, which should take 4-5 days. (DHL delivery proved to be unviable as it would cost £43 just for the shipping...) Regards, Heather Marian -- ** For a faster response to all licensing, support, and technical issues, please now send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Heather Nagey ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 870 747 1165 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
At 23:32 11/12/2004 -0700, Dar Scott wrote: On Dec 11, 2004, at 12:33 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I just think it should do what it says in the docs - make all the code between that line and the end myHandler be ignored / have no effect, equivalent to block-commenting the whole handler. I'm not comfortable with this. To do this, it would have to ignore everything from the commented out 'on' or 'function' line down to the 'end', including 'local', 'global' and 'constant' lines. To do this, it would have to know the line is a commented out 'on' or 'function'. To do this, it would have to look inside and parse the contents of comments. This violates the trust between the compiler and me. That which is in a comment belongs to me. And besides, what if I have a temporary first line commented out, or for some reason include on Christmas morning in some line of a comment. Yeah - it certainly has some difficulties. In some ways I don't care whether they change the docs or the app - I just don't like them disagreeing. It is straightforward to select the entire handler and select Comment from the script menu. An alternative might be to temporarily change the spelling of the name. That's what I've always done (since I didn't know about this feature), and what I intend to keep on doing - so I'll never (deliberately) use this feature, and hopefully I will never be affected by it. In this case, I don't think it's good enough to change the docs to reflect what the code does - because the current behaviour is a trap for the unwary. Often, I'll use the same (local) variable names within multiple handlers (e.g. tLine is a favourite of mine :-) If I were to use this feature, it would then change all those occurrences of tLine from handler-local to script-local - i.e. they are all the same variable - so hard-to-find bugs are all too possible. I'd prefer if they removed the feature entirely, or as you suggested used disabled or some such keyword rather than a comment, preceding the first line of the handler. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mySQL Dreamcard
My first attempt at posting this to the list apparently didn't work, so hopefully this does not end up as a duplicate... my apologies if it does. A couple of weeks ago I licensed Dreamcard as a learning/development tool prior to a final move to Rev Studio, thinking that others could assist with the testing process using the free player. (which I thought was functional for any type of application.) I've been working on a mySQL database app hosted on a remote server and can access the db without problems from my development box. However, when I tried testing the app on other computers (Linux XP), I learned that the player apparently requires some additional files. The Linux box clearly shows that the player application cannot load the needed library file(s), although I've manually copied them into the player's directory. I've searched the download section at the web site without luck, so maybe someone can point me to the additional files that are required for both O/S's? Thanks in advanced for any help. :) -Doc- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delete card loop crashes Rev
I have a stack that I use to download entire sites, Card one is set to cantDelete... I download the Table of contents page to that card, then run a script that parse the page and downloads every page on that has an href in the Table of Contents page... then dump to my hard drive.. and viola... locally accessible tutorials.. When I go to download a different site... I intend to delete the previous one with this script: on mouseup Answer You are about to delete all data except card 1! This is unrecoverable! with Cancel or Proceed if it is Cancel then exit mouseup lock screen put the number of cards of this stack into tLoops go to card tLoops repeat (tLoops-1) times delete this card end repeat end mouseup which consistently causes Rev to crash on Mac OSX Any clues? looks like a bug to me as I've used this script before successfully for years in Supercard, Metacard and in earlier renditions of Rev. Sivakatirswami a) comment out the lock screen to see what is going on the go to card tLoops takes you to the last card. When you delete it, you end up on the next which is the first card of the stack. Then you delete it. And I think that is where your script and the button resides. b) try changing the loop repeat while the number of cards of this stack 1 go to the last card delete this card end repeat this should also work and be more efficient repeat while the number of cards of this stack 1 delete the last card of this stack end repeat c) I would change the logic of the program to avoid this altogether keep the cards to be deleted in a substack which is a clone of a template substack, so you simply delete that entire substack. This may allow you to actually retain and support multiple sets in parallel. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All I've yet again been trawling the google search for a hint on a runrev topic (I cant get it in the video tutorials at the moment because I have not bought the video tutorials yet, only just bought studio). Anyway. I develop for palmOS and the IDE I use is supported via a BBS. Is there any chance of this thing being used instead of a list. I think it is far superior. Bob, This is list is the superior thing!!! ask something, we will answer my answer will take sometime for i've got a broken arm. One thing you might want is archivesearch plugin made by mark, it will help you search old threads cheers andre see http://www.pdatnutsandbolts.com/ All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
At 13:19 12/12/2004 +, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All I've yet again been trawling the google search for a hint on a runrev topic (I cant get it in the video tutorials at the moment because I have not bought the video tutorials yet, only just bought studio). I thought the video tutorials came as part of any license - though I must admit I've not tried to look at them (dial-up at 28.8 makes that am unappealing prospect :-) Anyway. I develop for palmOS and the IDE I use is supported via a BBS. Is there any chance of this thing being used instead of a list. I think it is far superior. Call me old-fashioned, but I like a traditional mailing list like this one. As long as it has good search tools (Mark's one already mentioned - I don't have a URL for it, sorry; or Google - http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com ), the main thing that matters is the responsiveness and helpfulness of the other people on the list/forum. I haven't seen many lists or forums as fast and as thorough as this one in giving replies. Occasionally an email falls through the cracks - but repeating the request, maybe from a different angle, is usually all it takes to fix that. So - what's your question Bob ? -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Start Using
Dear Revolutionaries I have created a little generic library stack with a button that I am using the custom properties of, to store global variables. In the stack script, I have 2 small functions setGlobal and getGlobal that set and get the custom properties of the button. I have tried having other stacks go to this stack and then start using this stack, but I am unable to get the setGlobal and getGlobal handlers to be visible in the calling stacks (I get handler not found type messages). I have also tried having the library stack insert its own script into back in its own onPreOpenStack handler or having the calling stack do this - to no avail in any case. The built in docs are rather scant and disorganized and I am still waiting for my rev manuals and Dan's book, so I don't have much to work from. Do I first go to the library stack file or can I just start using the stack file directly. I don't want to statically build it in to my main app as I want it to be a kind of reusable plugin. What am I missing here? What is the procedure I need to get this to work? Best Gordon = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
Hi Gordon, Dear Revolutionaries I have created a little generic library stack with a button that I am using the custom properties of, to store global variables. In the stack script, I have 2 small functions setGlobal and getGlobal that set and get the custom properties of the button. I have tried having other stacks go to this stack and then start using this stack, but I am unable to get the setGlobal and getGlobal handlers to be visible in the calling stacks (I get handler not found type messages). I have also tried having the library stack insert its own script into back in its own onPreOpenStack handler or having the calling stack do this - to no avail in any case. The built in docs are rather scant and disorganized and I am still waiting for my rev manuals and Dan's book, so I don't have much to work from. Do I first go to the library stack file or can I just start using the stack file directly. I don't want to statically build it in to my main app as I want it to be a kind of reusable plugin. What am I missing here? What is the procedure I need to get this to work? you only need to start using stack xyz once, no need to go there! If it is a substack this line in the mainstack should be sufficient: on openstack start using stack my library ... end preopenstack Then all the handlers of that substack are available to all objects ind any stack... Hope that helps... Best Gordon Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
Do I first go to the library stack file or can I just start using the stack file directly. Morning Gordon, There is no need to go to a stack before one starts using it. In fact, going to the library may trigger open/preOpen handlers that do things that are unnecessary or interfere with its role as a library. (If a Library needs to initialize when put in use, do it in a libraryStack handler.) Have the stack that can't find the handlers list the stacksInUse for you just before making the call. If your library stack is on the list and the handler called is in the library stack script, it should be found. One possible gottcha: if you have a function, foo, in the library stack and call it as a command in the button script, you will get a handler not found error. Likewise if you have a command, foo, and call it as a function. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
That is byfar the strangest request I ever saw on this list. I really do not understand what you want to do. The term sexuality of Runtime Revolution is odd for me, I am sure transcript/metatalk creators were not thinking about sex when they created the language. As a general purpose language, you can create almost anything out of it, if you want to control vibrators, Lego RCX or blinking leds is up to you and your programming skills. I don't think trying to link the language to sex is a something that should be called real, you can however link programmers to sex, if you want to try making some research to try to probe how some programmers expose their sexual thoughts in their code, like in their comments, you might get somewhere. Also, calling people stupid on public lists is not polite, you can call her stupid as long as you do that on her face and face the consequences of your act. Buddhism is a very wise and beautifull religion, learning more about it might enlight you about all aspects of life and human interaction. I am no PhD or DSc or whatever acronyms they are called these days, but I know that developers can create very complex universes inside their code, each piece of code revealing a little information on how they face the world, programming as all the creative activities out there reveal much from the mind/soul/personality/whatever of their creator, if you want to see sex there, maybe, you're thinking too much about it, sex is a topic best served when you are not worried or rationally thinking about it (popular quote here in Brazil). Also if you think your secretary is not up to your standards you need another one. The secretary lives in a symbiosis (damn, is this how we spell this in english!?) with their boss, it's a vital job! He/She will organize your professional life and serve as interface with the rest of the world, beware of angry secretaries and buttlers, sometimes they are more important than their bosses do not treat her like that, programming is difficult and can only be learned by willing minds. cheers andre On Dec 12, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia wrote: Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote, Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism. Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not attending courses on programming - but she is stupid person; only good for filing. Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Hi Andre, old spanish buddy :-D That is byfar the strangest request I ever saw on this list. 100% ACK! I really do not understand what you want to do. The term sexuality of Runtime Revolution is odd for me, I am sure transcript/metatalk creators were not thinking about sex when they created the language. As a general purpose language, you can create almost anything out of it, if you want to control vibrators, Lego RCX or blinking leds is up to you and your programming skills. I don't think trying to link the language to sex is a something that should be called real, you can however link programmers to sex, if you want to try making some research to try to probe how some programmers expose their sexual thoughts in their code, like in their comments, you might get somewhere. Also, calling people stupid on public lists is not polite, you can call her stupid as long as you do that on her face and face the consequences of your act. Buddhism is a very wise and beautifull religion, learning more about it might enlight you about all aspects of life and human interaction. I am no PhD or DSc or whatever acronyms they are called these days, but I know that developers can create very complex universes inside their code, each piece of code revealing a little information on how they face the world, programming as all the creative activities out there reveal much from the mind/soul/personality/whatever of their creator, if you want to see sex there, maybe, you're thinking too much about it, sex is a topic best served when you are not worried or rationally thinking about it (popular quote here in Brazil). Also if you think your secretary is not up to your standards you need another one. The secretary lives in a symbiosis (damn, is this how we spell this in english!?) with their boss, it's a vital job! He/She will organize your professional life and serve as interface with the rest of the world, beware of angry secretaries and buttlers, sometimes they are more important than their bosses do not treat her like that, programming is difficult and can only be learned by willing minds. I think this is just a joke and should be treated like that. At least i find it very funny :-) If it is not, then Mr. Batavia (is it you, Richmond? ;-) surely needs some professional help! cheers andre On Dec 12, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia wrote: Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote, Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism. Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not attending courses on programming - but she is stupid person; only good for filing. Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org Best Klaus Major (sic!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de P.S. @Melanie: Next time this strange person is making fun at you doesn't treat you right, just kick some of his naughty bits ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
On Dec 12, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote: I think this is just a joke and should be treated like that. At least i find it very funny :-) If it is not, then Mr. Batavia (is it you, Richmond? ;-) surely needs some professiona Klaus PALL Major, i am taking to much medicine for my tonsils and broken arm, I first thought this guy is joking then I thought no, my medicine is making the world funny, he must be serious... then I acted as so... Richard told me not to release software while under heavy medication, maybe my mails are also compromissed! :-) Andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
I agree with Andre. This could well be a serious college curriculum.
Although the sexist comments about the professor's secretary would surely
get him fired (perhaps he is tenured) at the least he will be suffering some
serious suing.
On 12/12/04 10:51 AM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give
course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say
mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous
filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote,
Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want
people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime
Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with
PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said
subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr
Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control
vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism.
Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not
attending courses on programming - but she is stupid
person; only good for filing.
Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma
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Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Guys!!! This is so obviously bogus and as Marian rightly says, offensive as well - I'm sure he's enjoying the chatter he has created with his ridiculous post - can't the moderators just boot him off and/or suppress mail from his IP address (in case he changes his name). Best Gordon --- Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. I'd be really, really surprised if this isn't bogus--not to mention highly offensive. First of all, a google search reveals a Carthage College in Kenosha WI but none in Wyoming. I'm not even sure there is a town named Coyote, WY. Second, check out the grammar and usage. This purports to be from a faculty member at a US university, yet it is replete with grossly improper grammar. Not to mention, as someone has already done, the statements about his secretary are not only demeaning but constitute blatant sexual harassment. No self-respecting faculty member in his right mind, tenured or not, would post such garbage in an open forum such as this. Overall, except for the fact that it is directed to this list and not arriving as email from God-knows-where, this has all the earmarks of some of the most vile spam out there. Oh, list mom, maybe this person should cautioned about the nature of his posts and excluded from this list if he persists in posting statements like: Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not attending courses on programming - but she is stupid person; only good for filing. Am I the only one who finds this offensive? Marian On Dec 12, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Bill wrote: I agree with Andre. This could well be a serious college curriculum. Although the sexist comments about the professor's secretary would surely get him fired (perhaps he is tenured) at the least he will be suffering some serious suing. On 12/12/04 10:51 AM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote, Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism. Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ||| )_) )_) )_) )___))___))___)\ )))_)\\ _|||\\\__ ---\ /- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^ 24 hour cell: (787) 378-6190 fax: (787) 809-8426 Blue Water Maritime P.O. Box 91 Puerto Real, PR 00740 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
Gordon, Could you elaborate on the gotcha thing. I changed my function from function setGlobal params to on setGlobal params and now I don't get the error message, but instead of setting the cutom property myVar of the button to 23.6, it creates a cutom property called myVar,23.6! What's the difference between a command and a function- I even tried setting setGlobal back to a function and returning something, but then I got the old handler not found error again. I am confused about commands and functions - why are my functions not seen and which should I use and when? A command starts with on; a function starts with function When calling a function, the arguments to be passed are enclosed in parens (); when calling a command they are not--though individual arguments may contain ().. A function must return a value; a command may return a value. The Rev script parser looks for the ( in a handler call to determine whether it is a function or command. If it sees setGlobal params it generates a command message; if it sees setGlobal(params) it generates a function message. So if one had a command setGlobals and scripted setGlobals (the short name of the target), one would get a handler not found [expecting a function]; whereas scripting. get the short name of the target setGlobals it will work. Here are the setGlobal and getGlobal functions on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal function getGlobal tname return the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal I don't see any obvious error. How are tname tvalue set before the setGlobal command is called. -- Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
On Dec 12, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote: I think this is just a joke and should be treated like that. At least i find it very funny :-) I did that once. This guy submitted his biographical info contact information to a directory of clinical therapists and psychologists. He was mostly promoting a retreat property on some island somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea. His name was Bent Johnson. The fact that there was not much mention of his credentials and much about my suspecting his love shack on an island somewhere led me to ask the moderator of the directory to get more info from him. The guy was so offended after hearing what his name meant in american slang that he fired back at us. Luckily all this took place off-list. I will never forget old Bent Johnson in helping me with internet etiquette. Have you considered turrets syndrome? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Andre- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 8:41:46 AM, you wrote: AG the world funny, he must be serious... then I acted as so... Richard AG told me not to release software while under heavy medication, maybe my Wait... we are *not* supposed to release software while under heavy medication? Uh oh... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
I ran PhD through Microsoft Word's spell checker, and while it wasn't in there as typed, it suggested that I might have meant pH. In addition, Bhatt was not found, but the kind folks in Redmond suggested Beat, Boat, Blat, and Brat. I'm not sure quite what a Blat is, but I rather like the sound of Dr. Beat. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
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Re: forum
Alex- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 7:07:33 AM, you wrote: AT Call me old-fashioned, but I like a traditional mailing list like this one. AT As long as it has good search tools (Mark's one already mentioned - I don't AT have a URL for it, sorry; or Google - AT http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com ), the main http://www.ahsoftware.net/ArchiveSearch.html AT I haven't seen many lists or forums as fast and as thorough as this one in I enthusiastically second that. And while the online list archive software leaves a lot to be desired, the amount of help available here is absolutely awesome. I remember a couple of attempts to set up runrev fora, but as far as I can tell they died from lack of interest. Maybe I'm misremembering and they're actually in use somewhere, in which case someone will set me straight about this. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
Ken- Thanks for explaining the first line to me. Now I get it. I'm not in a panic anymore, but it's still bizarre. I'm sure someone thought it was a good idea at the time... more heavy medication, maybe? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: me missing in actions...
sims- Aubergines blow up in the oven? I always thought pricking them with a fork would prevent that. Always one more thing to worry about... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
Alex- Friday, December 10, 2004, 11:26:15 AM, you wrote: AT function StripComments theLine ATlocal theResult ATput token 1 to -1 of theLine into theResult AT if quote is in token -2 to -1 of theLine then put quote after theResult ATreturn theResult AT end StripComents Thanks for that. It pretty much does the job for me, although I have to handle C-style comments and line-continuation characters externally before the tokenizer has a chance to work. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: I would, too, now that Ken has set me straight on what the first line is. However, now that I understand what's involved in this, I'm rather apathetic to the whole thing since I don't intend to use this feature at all. I'm changing my bz comment to suggest removal. The feature is a by-product of the compiler ignoring top level lines that are not top level constructs or commands in Transcript. The problem is that local, global and constant in the handler that is disabled this way are pushed to the script level. Any attempt to fix that based on the comment syntax will have the compiler looking into comments. That means that though you do not intend to use this, you might accidently. Dar Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mySQL Dreamcard
Database access is a major feature reserved for those who buy the higher level software. I really don't think Dreamcard is supposed to offer database access. sqb My first attempt at posting this to the list apparently didn't work, so hopefully this does not end up as a duplicate... my apologies if it does. A couple of weeks ago I licensed Dreamcard as a learning/development tool prior to a final move to Rev Studio, thinking that others could assist with the testing process using the free player. (which I thought was functional for any type of application.) I've been working on a mySQL database app hosted on a remote server and can access the db without problems from my development box. However, when I tried testing the app on other computers (Linux XP), I learned that the player apparently requires some additional files. The Linux box clearly shows that the player application cannot load the needed library file(s), although I've manually copied them into the player's directory. I've searched the download section at the web site without luck, so maybe someone can point me to the additional files that are required for both O/S's? Thanks in advanced for any help. :) -Doc- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX
On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Alright... I've successfully installed PostGreSQL on my mac... in the terminal it's up and running, I've created a database and just now did select * from taskroster and got my two test rows returned... but.. in the Mac's activity monitor... i don't see a process named Postgres just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres... And also, in rev, this fails: put revOpenDatabase(Postgresql,localhost,katir_test,postgres,myPas sWord) could not connect to server: Connection refused Is the server running on host localhost and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432? Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it with an -I flag. su - postgres password postgres% /usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data I ( this is the -I flag you enter) Hershel Fisch my computer name on the lan is katir.hindu.org but put revOpenDatabase(Postgresql,katir.hindu.org,katir_test,postgres, myPassWord) does not work either.. I'm sure this must be simple... TIA Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making a Rev-built app hoist itself to the foreground
Is there a simple way I'm missing to create a Revolution app that, when called from the command line (and thus starts in the background) hoist itself to the foreground to be in front of the user? I'm looking for the cross platform transcript equivalent of AppleScript's activate regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Rev-Dudes and Dudettes - I'm putting this Magnus character on permanent IGNORE. Anything more is a waste of time. - James On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia wrote: Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote, Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism. Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not attending courses on programming - but she is stupid person; only good for filing. Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
It looks like all of us are on vacation. Every body get back to work . There are more important to discuses over-here on this list. On Sunday, December 12, 2004, at 01:09 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: feeding the trolls... 25cents a post ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
Forget it! I see what I'm doing wrong - customProperties refers to a customPropertySet - I just substituted return the tname of button in getGlobal and it works. Please Mr Postman look and see (oh yeah) If there's a manual, a rev manual for me ... Best Gordon --- Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, thanks to the help of Rob and others, I have a setGlobal function that works Here it is: on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal - When I hit a button on the calling stack, it creates custom properties just fine in the button on my library stack. But when I ty to poll the values of these custom properties (which I can see in the inspector), they are empty but I get no error. Here's the retrieving function in the library stack function getGlobal tname return the customProperties[tname] of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal So for example, I set a global called myVar to 144. I can see it in the custom properties of the button on my library stack. When I do answer getGlobal(myVar) either from the calling stack or the message box, it works without an error but I get an empty value. Any ideas? Best Gordon --- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gordon, Could you elaborate on the gotcha thing. I changed my function from function setGlobal params to on setGlobal params and now I don't get the error message, but instead of setting the cutom property myVar of the button to 23.6, it creates a cutom property called myVar,23.6! What's the difference between a command and a function- I even tried setting setGlobal back to a function and returning something, but then I got the old handler not found error again. I am confused about commands and functions - why are my functions not seen and which should I use and when? A command starts with on; a function starts with function When calling a function, the arguments to be passed are enclosed in parens (); when calling a command they are not--though individual arguments may contain ().. A function must return a value; a command may return a value. The Rev script parser looks for the ( in a handler call to determine whether it is a function or command. If it sees setGlobal params it generates a command message; if it sees setGlobal(params) it generates a function message. So if one had a command setGlobals and scripted setGlobals (the short name of the target), one would get a handler not found [expecting a function]; whereas scripting. get the short name of the target setGlobals it will work. Here are the setGlobal and getGlobal functions on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal function getGlobal tname return the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal I don't see any obvious error. How are tname tvalue set before the setGlobal command is called. -- Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
Dar- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 10:39:19 AM, you wrote: DS The feature is a by-product of the compiler ignoring top level lines DS that are not top level constructs or commands in Transcript. Ah - so this feature is actually tied into your postings about junk in scripts? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Mark- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 10:09:20 AM, you wrote: MB feeding the trolls... 25cents a post Not exactly, just joining Richmond in the fun. I'm sure he didn't intend anyone to take that posting seriously. Well, mostly sure he didn't. Actually, I don't really know what prompted him to do that. More heavy meditation? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
MW Actually, I don't really know what prompted him to do that. More heavy MW meditation? ...sorry ...make that medication... -- -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
OK, thanks to the help of Rob and others, I have a setGlobal function that works Here it is: on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal - When I hit a button on the calling stack, it creates custom properties just fine in the button on my library stack. But when I ty to poll the values of these custom properties (which I can see in the inspector), they are empty but I get no error. Here's the retrieving function in the library stack function getGlobal tname return the customProperties[tname] of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal So for example, I set a global called myVar to 144. I can see it in the custom properties of the button on my library stack. When I do answer getGlobal(myVar) either from the calling stack or the message box, it works without an error but I get an empty value. Any ideas? Best Gordon --- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gordon, Could you elaborate on the gotcha thing. I changed my function from function setGlobal params to on setGlobal params and now I don't get the error message, but instead of setting the cutom property myVar of the button to 23.6, it creates a cutom property called myVar,23.6! What's the difference between a command and a function- I even tried setting setGlobal back to a function and returning something, but then I got the old handler not found error again. I am confused about commands and functions - why are my functions not seen and which should I use and when? A command starts with on; a function starts with function When calling a function, the arguments to be passed are enclosed in parens (); when calling a command they are not--though individual arguments may contain ().. A function must return a value; a command may return a value. The Rev script parser looks for the ( in a handler call to determine whether it is a function or command. If it sees setGlobal params it generates a command message; if it sees setGlobal(params) it generates a function message. So if one had a command setGlobals and scripted setGlobals (the short name of the target), one would get a handler not found [expecting a function]; whereas scripting. get the short name of the target setGlobals it will work. Here are the setGlobal and getGlobal functions on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal function getGlobal tname return the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal I don't see any obvious error. How are tname tvalue set before the setGlobal command is called. -- Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
Dear Rob Could you elaborate on the gotcha thing. I changed my function from function setGlobal params to on setGlobal params and now I don't get the error message, but instead of setting the cutom property myVar of the button to 23.6, it creates a cutom property called myVar,23.6! What's the difference between a command and a function- I even tried setting setGlobal back to a function and returning something, but then I got the old handler not found error again. I am confused about commands and functions - why are my functions not seen and which should I use and when? Here are the setGlobal and getGlobal functions on setGlobal tname, tvalue set the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals to tvalue end setGlobal function getGlobal tname return the tname of button Button of stack EZGlobals end getGlobal I don't mind having to pay for the rev manual, but couldn't they send it electronically to help users while they're waiting the 3-4 weeks it takes for the paper versions to arrive by snail mail. It's really hard trying to figure all this out from the documention window that comes with rev. It doesn't give any kind of overview of the Transcript language that one would need to understand enough to really get going. I am praying for my manuals to arrive a.s.a.p. Best Gordon --- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I first go to the library stack file or can I just start using the stack file directly. Morning Gordon, There is no need to go to a stack before one starts using it. In fact, going to the library may trigger open/preOpen handlers that do things that are unnecessary or interfere with its role as a library. (If a Library needs to initialize when put in use, do it in a libraryStack handler.) Have the stack that can't find the handlers list the stacksInUse for you just before making the call. If your library stack is on the list and the handler called is in the library stack script, it should be found. One possible gottcha: if you have a function, foo, in the library stack and call it as a command in the button script, you will get a handler not found error. Likewise if you have a command, foo, and call it as a function. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
Dear Revolutionaries Is this feasible or just a crazy notion ...? Is there a way to create a catch-all backscript that would catch any unknown handler error and then look through a list of e.g. custom properties to see if it could be evaluated, and then returning the value. This would make it possible to create custom properties with names like client.address.zip and then just use them in your code where a handler would normally be. E.g. instead of writing: getGlobal = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
Dear Revolutionaries Is this feasible or just a crazy notion ...? Is there a way to create a catch-all backscript that would catch any unknown handler error and then look through a list of e.g. custom properties to see if it could be evaluated, and then returning the value. This would make it possible to create custom properties with names like client.address.zip and then just use them in your code where a handler or a function would normally be. e.g. instead of writing: put getGlobal(client.address.zip) into myDatabase you could use: put client.address.zip into myDatabase catching the thrown error and looking for this name in a list of customproperties that would be globally available within the program. Best Gordon ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Postgresql Docs for your hard drive
Aloha, [darma, london: trash the last postgresql docs from xCalibre site.. they are 2 years old and these are the latest from postgresql.org for 7.4 and there is a *lot* more info here] In case anyone is interested in putting a copy of the entire Postgresql docs (7.4) on their hard drive... I *think* my spider got all the pages... go to http://www.himalayanacademy.com/outgoing/postgresql/ and download Download Site Spider.rev.zip [excuse the very rough UI which is a typical in house RAD thing where I put together something in a few minutes to get a specific job done...) click on the button export all to disk and create a new folder and save the docs (over 500 files!) thescripts in here are open source, so for newbies... I don't consider myself anything of an expert (the wizards on this list generally show me a better way to do just about anything I can cook up. ;-) but you might from some interesting stuff in there. caveat: the URL root stem for the site being crawled and downloaded is hard coded into the script of Parse TOC Once you have them downloaded, load the index.html into your browser and it will run the documentation locally. All href's have been change to local. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
You never know with higher ed these days.
Sigh...
Judy
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Bill wrote:
I agree with Andre. This could well be a serious college curriculum.
Although the sexist comments about the professor's secretary would surely
get him fired (perhaps he is tenured) at the least he will be suffering some
serious suing.
On 12/12/04 10:51 AM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give
course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say
mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous
filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote,
Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want
people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime
Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with
PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said
subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr
Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control
vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism.
Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not
attending courses on programming - but she is stupid
person; only good for filing.
Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma
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Re: Ins and outs
Judy Perry wrote: Richard, what is the possibility of either a separately-sanctioned Yahoo discussion group or the merging of the improve-docs thread along with an improve-UI thread for the existing group? I am quite certain that all the real geeks have long since tired of reading our comments/rants/other regarding the usability of Rev/Dreamcard. Perhaps if comments similar to those which have been offered on the improve-docs group could be offered up and backed up with sound research or reasoning, the company would be willing to take a look? I think that's an excellent idea. I just added a summary of current Transcript-related lists to my Rev page: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev/ I'd be happy to add a new group to that list, or as you suggest it might be worthwhile integrating that discussion into the RevDocs list. The RevDocs discussion is rather sparse these days, and the two issues -- documentation and learnability -- are closely related. You might run the idea by the othes on the RevDocs list to see if there are any objections, but expanding the discussion there gets my vote. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
At 14:12 12/12/2004, you wrote: On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All I've yet again been trawling the google search for a hint on a runrev topic (I cant get it in the video tutorials at the moment because I have not bought the video tutorials yet, only just bought studio). Anyway. I develop for palmOS and the IDE I use is supported via a BBS. Is there any chance of this thing being used instead of a list. I think it is far superior. Bob, This is list is the superior thing!!! ask something, we will answer my answer will take sometime for i've got a broken arm. One thing you might want is archivesearch plugin made by mark, it will help you search old threads Hi Andre and others. I'm not getting at the list people but was looking at a better way of searching the list, rather than a google search and clicking on the next link etc. Doing a search, on google, I couldn't find a post that I knew was there. I downloaded the archive search but it doesn't seem to run on my machine. I'll try it again. I would like you all to know I appreciate help on the list but I don't want to bother you all the time when a search of the documentation or archive would give the answer. I just don't seem to be able to find anything on the helpfile (because it is so comprehensive and I'm a novice) or find google list searching as good as other forums. Not a criticism of the list people in any way. cheers bob cheers andre see http://www.pdatnutsandbolts.com/ All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The question was Re: forum
At 15:07 12/12/2004, you wrote: So - what's your question Bob ? Hi Alex. I want to call a stack from a standalone but I'm stuck right at the begining. All I want to make is a simple card database, have a new card created when I ad a new entry (naturally) and have this saved. I realise that the way to do this would be to have a template.rev file, then have the standalone launch this no startup. Even a one field card would get me started. Ironically this is for my beginners database series nas I cant even do it myself (been away from rev for too long) Cheers Bob -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
Bob Hartley wrote: I just don't seem to be able to find anything on the helpfile (because it is so comprehensive and I'm a novice) or find google list searching as good as other forums. Google's search technology generally provides more flexibility than is possible with the less robust technology driving most forums. Could I trouble you for an example of a search with Google that failed to turn up a post you were looking for? We may be looking at an indexing problem or some other issue with Google that is correctable. Thanks in advance - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
help need to read from file until xxxx OR yyyy OR zzzz
Hi, I would appreciate any help anyone may offer. Let's say a text file occasionally includes the words dogs, cats, and fleas. I need to read until any of these words without skipping any. I tried the following instruction, but of course that doesn't work: open file FileName repeat read file FileName until dogs or cats or fleas -- (do something with it in found order) if it is empty then exit repeat close file FileName Unfortunately though, so far as I can tell, this script as-is (obviously so wrong) reads in the whole file and doesn't stop on any of the words. I played with the seek to command but that requires a number afterward... otherwise I would seek to all three of the keywords in question and then read to whichever came soonest and then repeat. Can anybody point the way? Thanks again, Randy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making a Rev-built app hoist itself to the foreground
Is there a simple way I'm missing to create a Revolution app that, when called from the command line (and thus starts in the background) hoist itself to the foreground to be in front of the user? I'm looking for the cross platform transcript equivalent of AppleScript's activate I wonder what happens if you set the relevant window to be a systemWindow and then set it back again? Presumably it would come to the front when set to systemWindow, but will it stay there? Just an idea, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
At 21:57 12/12/2004, you wrote: Bob Hartley wrote: I just don't seem to be able to find anything on the helpfile (because it is so comprehensive and I'm a novice) or find google list searching as good as other forums. Google's search technology generally provides more flexibility than is possible with the less robust technology driving most forums. I too think google is great and I certainly use scholar.google.com all the time. I was just trying to search for a post that I knew I had participated in (on another machine). I couldn't see a way to search for author. Could I trouble you for an example of a search with Google that failed to turn up a post you were looking for? We may be looking at an indexing problem or some other issue with Google that is correctable. It is not an indexing fault, it is just that I don't find it intuitive to search web-page after webpage for one post. I know what the answer to my problem is. Download all the mails to my HD and use my mail programme to search for posts. I can also change my mail prefs in my work machines to not delete from server. I'm going back to try and get this app started. I'll mail you all if I can't find an answer after searching the google or archive search way. Cheers Bob Thanks in advance - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help need to read from file until xxxx OR yyyy OR zzzz
On Dec 12, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Randy Padawer wrote: Let's say a text file occasionally includes the words dogs, cats, and fleas. I need to read until any of these words without skipping any. Unless the file is huge, read it in in one piece with the URL method. Then repeatedly parse it with matchText or matchChunk. Match with a pattern includes what you want and also allows you to obtain the rest of the data for processing more. I'm guessing that the pattern you want includes the front of the string, a bunch of characters, and then either one of the words. The rest is everything after that. If you need help with the regex pattern, just ask. It would be nice to give a char # offset to matchText or matchChunk, but I don't know how. Dar Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help need to read from file until xxxx OR yyyy OR zzzz
On 12/12/04 4:09 PM, Randy Padawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would appreciate any help anyone may offer. Let's say a text file occasionally includes the words dogs, cats, and fleas. I need to read until any of these words without skipping any. Is there some reason you don't want to read the entire file into a variable and then work with the data from there? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
Got the Search app from Mark to work (previous download was only the 1st 20K) and it looks pretty neat. Thanks Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: simple applescript?
Hi Chipp, As others have said, you need to include the word file or alias before the file path in your AppleScript. Also, AppleScript file paths are different to the Unix style paths used by Rev. e.g. for the same test file, AppleScript gives me this path Sarah HD:Users:sarah:Desktop:test.txt and Rev gives me this: /Users/sarah/Desktop/test.txt , with the crucial difference being that one path includes the hard disk name and the other doesn't. To convert from one to the other, you can use the AppleScript POSIX file description, but the easiest way is to use the revMacFromUnixPath function. Editing your script, I get: on mouseUp answer file if it is empty then exit to top put revMacFromUnixPath(it) into pPDFpath put tell application quote Finder quote cr into tScript put set the file type of alias quote pPDFpath quote \ to quote PDF quote cr after tScript put end tell after tScript do tScript as Applescript put the result into sError end mouseUp Cheers, Sarah On 10 Dec 2004, at 8:05 pm, Chipp Walters wrote: on mouseUp answer file if it is empty then exit to top put it into pPDFpath replace / with : in pPDFpath if char 1 of pPDFpath is : then delete char 1 of pPDFpath put tell application quote Finder quote cr into tScript put set the file type of quote pPDFpath quote \ to quote PDF quote cr after tScript put end tell after tScript do tScript as Applescript put the result into sError end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The question was Re: forum
On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi Alex. I want to call a stack from a standalone but I'm stuck right at the begining. yeah! I'll answer that first with only one hand use the: go stack URL file:/yourFolder/yourStack.rev look for go in the docs cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] young developer
Anyone who wants to have a look can go to http://www.troz.net/jacksgames/. I'm sure he would welcome any feedback. Cheers, Sarah Hi Sarah, Never announce that sort of thing while I'm having breakfast : I was almost late for work, trying to defeat that puny Jedi ! Nice job ; one remark though : in the version with music, if you close the window, the exe doesn't quit and the music keeps playing. Jan Schenkel. Thanks Jan, Jack was thrilled to hear that someone was actually playing his game! He's fixed the music thing now. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
opening stack from subfolder
Hi All I'm finally getting there. OK I can call an external stack from a standalone. i used a button in a stabndalone (called start.exe) with the script on mouseUp go to stack test.rev end mouseUp to open a stack called test.rev This works when test.rev is in the same folder as start.exe, however, when I put test.rev in a folde called bits and use the script on mouseUp go to stack bits\test.rev end mouseUp or on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp The test.rev file is not opend by the standalone. How do I get it to open this file. Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Hey guys. I'd be really, really surprised if this isn't bogus--not to mention highly offensive. Folks, I'm sorry I didn't catch this sooner - was on the road and out of contact for most of the day. This is clearly a bogus mail, and will not be tolerated. The person concerned will be put on strict moderation or banned from the list - I'm not yet sure which. Regards, Heather -- ** For a faster response to all licensing, support, and technical issues, please now send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Heather Nagey ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 870 747 1165 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
Ken Ray wrote: On 12/12/04 2:41 PM, Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Revolutionaries Is this feasible or just a crazy notion ...? Is there a way to create a catch-all backscript that would catch any unknown handler error and then look through a list of e.g. custom properties to see if it could be evaluated, and then returning the value. This would make it possible to create custom properties with names like client.address.zip and then just use them in your code where a handler would normally be. Well, you can do this now: set the client.address.zip of this stack to 90034 (later:) put the client.address.zip of this stack -- 90034 Does this not do what you want? That's perfectly valid syntax, but Scott Raney advised me against using dot notation in property and handler names in anticipation of future exhancements which may support OOP syntax. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
At 16:41 12/12/2004 -0600, Ken Ray wrote: Well, you can do this now: set the client.address.zip of this stack to 90034 (later:) put the client.address.zip of this stack -- 90034 Does this not do what you want? Very nearly but not quite - Gordon's first email on a related thread was about providing and using this in a library stack - so presumably these values should be retrievable from any stack within a multi-stack application. Make the tiny change to set the client.address.zip of stack everywhere to 90034 where everywhere is the name of the library stack, where other stacks must first start using it, and that should be what is needed. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The question was Re: forum
At 22:39 12/12/2004, you wrote: On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi Alex. I want to call a stack from a standalone but I'm stuck right at the begining. yeah! I'll answer that first with only one hand use the: go stack URL file:/yourFolder/yourStack.rev look for go in the docs Hi Andre I found go in the docs and used on mouseUp go to stack test.rev end mouseUp Thsi is ok as long as it is in the same folder but in a subfolder bits it wont open. I tried modifying your URL suggestion go stack URL file:/bits/test.rev but the file wont open in the standalone. I'll spend more time on it tomorrow. Thanks for the help. Hope your arm gets better soon. cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: opening stack from subfolder
At 22:59 12/12/2004, you wrote: Bob, Hi Andre and Bjoernke I used on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp It is perfect now Andre PS: andre is not a code snipet! I'm sorry I don't understand. Thanks for the help in this very simple request. I can now get to designing the real app. I really appreciate it. All the best Bob; Sunny Scotland ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: opening stack from subfolder
Bob, try: go stack URL file:bits/test.rev Andre PS: andre is not a code snipet! On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:58 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All I'm finally getting there. OK I can call an external stack from a standalone. i used a button in a stabndalone (called start.exe) with the script on mouseUp go to stack test.rev end mouseUp to open a stack called test.rev This works when test.rev is in the same folder as start.exe, however, when I put test.rev in a folde called bits and use the script on mouseUp go to stack bits\test.rev end mouseUp or on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp The test.rev file is not opend by the standalone. How do I get it to open this file. Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: opening stack from subfolder
Andre Garzia wrote: On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:58 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All I'm finally getting there. OK I can call an external stack from a standalone. i used a button in a stabndalone (called start.exe) with the script on mouseUp go to stack test.rev end mouseUp to open a stack called test.rev This works when test.rev is in the same folder as start.exe, however, when I put test.rev in a folde called bits and use the script on mouseUp go to stack bits\test.rev end mouseUp or on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp The test.rev file is not opend by the standalone. What is the value of the result immediately after attempting to open the file? try: go stack URL file:bits/test.rev Bob may want to use binfile instead of file, as the latter will convert line endings which may invalidate the binary stack data. Also, the two forms of opening stacks accomplish different things: using the URL form copies it into RAM in a way that disassociates its file name. If the stack is to be discarded or have some other file name assigned to it that will be fine, but if I understand this correctly attempting to use save on a stack opened with go URL will put an error in the result. Bob, I would put the stack path in quotes to be safe. Or perhaps simpler, make an entry in the main stack's stackFiles property for this other stack file: myStack,bits/test.rev ...where MyStack is the name of the stack object in that stack file. Then you can use the short form: go stack myStack -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Trail version to small to read
I downloaded a limlted period (windows xp)version to try. Tha main menu is too small and I fail to alter it. I use to have and still have an old full version for the mac which is in a resonable size and felxible to tailor . While all other programms run in a readable size this version refuse to so. How can I set the menubar to fit the screen (non microscopically11)? please help ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
Dar- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 2:04:10 PM, you wrote: DS And it also ties to recent discussion on parsing scripts. Should a DS preprocessor allow for uncommented junk at the top level, or should it DS assume a clean script? Well, for my own preprocessing purposes, anything not rigorously syntactically correct is an error. I suppose others may have differing needs. If nobody's said it yet, let me be the first to say that I think uncommented junk is still junk. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
On Dec 12, 2004, at 5:19 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I'd prefer if they removed the feature entirely, or as you suggested used disabled or some such keyword rather than a comment, preceding the first line of the handler. My preference is to allow nothing at the top but but top level things, currently local, global, constant, on...end, function...end and comments. I'm ok with 'disabled' being at that top level if the handler is parsed or partially parsed. Currently, if I have a typo in funtion, then the script might compile without errors, but I'd be missing a function (and maybe a different one used) and have some constants and variables in script local that I didn't intend. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
On 12/12/04 6:19 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Yeah - it certainly has some difficulties. In some ways I don't care whether they change the docs or the app - I just don't like them disagreeing. It is straightforward to select the entire handler and select Comment from the script menu. An alternative might be to temporarily change the spelling of the name. That's what I've always done (since I didn't know about this feature), and what I intend to keep on doing - so I'll never (deliberately) use this feature, and hopefully I will never be affected by it. I see the point people are making, but I'd sure miss the current behavior if it changed. The ability to comment out an entire handler by commenting the first line has been in xtalk for 18 years. I have become dependent on it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: forum
Bob- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 2:27:11 PM, you wrote: BH I too think google is great and I certainly use scholar.google.com all the BH time. I was just trying to search for a post that I knew I had participated BH in (on another machine). I couldn't see a way to search for author. Hint #1: put your name into the exact phrase field, either on Google's advanced search page or in my plugin. Hint #2: if you're using my plugin and you're reading a post from someone, clicking on their name in the author field will do a new search on the author's name. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Widgets in Tiger Dashboard
Has anyone figured out whether it would be possible for Revolution to be used in creating Dashboard Widgets for Apple's upcoming Tiger operating system release? There's a new paper that's released on how to write widgets and I'm wondering if someone's been thinking about it? Jesse Sng ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Widgets in Tiger Dashboard
Jesse Sng wrote: Has anyone figured out whether it would be possible for Revolution to be used in creating Dashboard Widgets for Apple's upcoming Tiger operating system release? If memory serves, I believe those are spec'd as JavaScript only. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start Using
On 12/12/04 11:10 AM, Gordon wrote: What's the difference between a command and a function- I even tried setting setGlobal back to a function and returning something, but then I got the old handler not found error again. I am confused about commands and functions - why are my functions not seen and which should I use and when? Commands and functions are almost exactly the same, except that a function formally returns a value. Commands can return values too, but don't worry about that yet. When you call a function in a script, it acts just like a variable. For example: function myTime return the time end myTime Now I can use that function in a script just as though it were a variable: put myTime() into fld 1 I have an old essay on functions; if I can find it, I will post it here under its own topic heading. I don't mind having to pay for the rev manual, but couldn't they send it electronically to help users while they're waiting the 3-4 weeks it takes for the paper versions to arrive by snail mail. It's really hard trying to figure all this out from the documention window that comes with rev. It doesn't give any kind of overview of the Transcript language that one would need to understand enough to really get going. I am praying for my manuals to arrive a.s.a.p. The manuals are printed versions of the online docs, and there isn't much difference. For an overview of transcript/stack concepts, the Shafer book is good. There is also quite a bit of information in the Rev docs if you look beyond the dictionary; try the FAQ, the object topics, etc. About your original question regarding in use stacks: When you put a stack in use, only the stack script itself gets shared. If your scripts are in a button or a card, putting the stack in use won't cause them to be seen. There are two ways you can fix this. The first way: put all the handlers you want to share into the script of the stack, not in any other place. Then when the stack is put in use, its stack script is available everywhere and all open stacks can use it. The second way: insert the script of the object that has your shared handlers into the message hierarchy. If you are storing the handlers you want to share in a button script, then: insert script of btn myLibScripts of stack mySharedStack into back This places the button script into the back of the message path and all your other scripts can use it. Either method works. There are some subtle reasons to choose one method over the other, but it probably doesn't matter in this case. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
On 12/12/04 5:05 PM, Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nearly but not quite - Gordon's first email on a related thread was about providing and using this in a library stack - so presumably these values should be retrievable from any stack within a multi-stack application. Make the tiny change to set the client.address.zip of stack everywhere to 90034 where everywhere is the name of the library stack, where other stacks must first start using it, and that should be what is needed. True, but for a library, it might be better served by an accessor function: put libMyLib_GetZip() into tZip and in the library: function libMyLib_GetZip return (the client.address.zip of this stack) end libMyLib_GetZip Of course, Richard's comments about dot notation not withstanding... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Widgets in Tiger Dashboard
Jesse Sng wrote: Has anyone figured out whether it would be possible for Revolution to be used in creating Dashboard Widgets for Apple's upcoming Tiger operating system release? If memory serves, I believe those are spec'd as JavaScript only. It is designed to work with also code bundles. The test environment is apparently Safari, where the stuff is invoked via some Javascript. But you can also have html code to specify a bundle to be loaded instead. They are already talking about being able to load Shockwave (basically anything that can be loaded into Safari) as a widget also. Jesse ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What's a function
I said elsewhere that I'd post my article about the differences between a function and a command handler. For anyone interested, I've put it online here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/functions.html This is specifically aimed at new Transcripters, so I've tried to keep the jargon to a minimum and the example handlers a bit more verbose. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
On Dec 12, 2004, at 6:22 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I see the point people are making, but I'd sure miss the current behavior if it changed. The ability to comment out an entire handler by commenting the first line has been in xtalk for 18 years. I have become dependent on it. As Alex pointed out, it is really only an illusion for Transcript. It doesn't work. As for Hypertalk, my copy of Hypercard Script Language Guide: The HyperTalk Language says Statements always appear in handlers in a script. Any part of a statement following HyperTalk's double-hyphen comment character (--) is ignored by HyperCard. I read this as saying that the ability was not intended to be part of HyperCard. I am curious if others use the technique of commenting out a handler by commenting out the first line. Maybe there is a way to rescue this kind of thing in a clean way. Dar Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
forum
Hi All I've yet again been trawling the google search for a hint on a runrev topic (I cant get it in the video tutorials at the moment because I have not bought the video tutorials yet, only just bought studio). Anyway. I develop for palmOS and the IDE I use is supported via a BBS. Is there any chance of this thing being used instead of a list. I think it is far superior. see http://www.pdatnutsandbolts.com/ All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ins and outs
Richard As you will by now be aware, I am particularly interested in usability - specifically for non-computer types, and to that end made rather over-the-top tool bars for both RR MC, and then went to one particular extreme with my thesis. I do believe that far too little attention is paid to the end-user experience and wonder if now is not the time to start a use-list specifically dedicated to this - and keep the current - MC and RR lists for xTalk related matters only. The nature of RR/MC readily lends itself to the rapid development of a wide variety of user interfaces - and, owing to the cross-platform nature of RR/MC, is, to my mind, one of the better RADs for UI development and experimentation. I have been interested in this since Hypercard first appeared on the market. On first glance rapid educational development using xTalk seemed the way to go. But what I found at least was that from scratch development of useful educational applications could take months. Part of the problem ( and there are many others besides is that higher order development tools were not available ) To build these was very time consuming. Now if you are an instructor at any level time is not a commodity that is available in great supply. I started working on preceptortools back in the late 80's. While it was never a commercial success I think that some of the ideas still have merit. If you have never looked at it you are welcome to do so by going to my website which is still up and running. http://www.messimercomputing.com I would welcome the opportunity to participate in a dialog regarding methods of improving the usability of development environments for educational purposes. Regards, Steve Messimer, PA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote, Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism. Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not attending courses on programming - but she is stupid person; only good for filing. Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subject: Re: Christmas Special - we'll even solve your christmas shopping problem
On Dec 12, 2004, at 4:53 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: Yes, but you must order now, without delay. Done. At $30 sh included these are a real bargain! Scarf 'em up while you can folks! Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrays in Rev
On Saturday, December 11, 2004, at 06:42 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: Nope. But I've paid more bills and bought more toys using its tools than all the others combined. Basically, it all comes down to what makes me money, as this is my profession. Rev-based tools have helped me solve a few problems, but Director has consistently paid the mortgage. While its true that there are a few things that Rev does which Director doesn't (though not many if you include available xtra$), my clients want the things that Director does which Rev doesn't - of which there is a very long list. That's all. They are different tools, and really don't compete as much as people think. -- Troy I agree, they do offer different benefits. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
Hey guys. I'd be really, really surprised if this isn't bogus--not to
mention highly offensive.
First of all, a google search reveals a Carthage College in Kenosha WI
but none in Wyoming. I'm not even sure there is a town named Coyote,
WY.
Second, check out the grammar and usage. This purports to be from a
faculty member at a US university, yet it is replete with grossly
improper grammar.
Not to mention, as someone has already done, the statements about his
secretary are not only demeaning but constitute blatant sexual
harassment. No self-respecting faculty member in his right mind,
tenured or not, would post such garbage in an open forum such as this.
Overall, except for the fact that it is directed to this list and not
arriving as email from God-knows-where, this has all the earmarks of
some of the most vile spam out there.
Oh, list mom, maybe this person should cautioned about the nature of
his posts and excluded from this list if he persists in posting
statements like:
Melanie says she prefers me to do her in lunch break; not
attending courses on programming - but she is stupid
person; only good for filing.
Am I the only one who finds this offensive?
Marian
On Dec 12, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Bill wrote:
I agree with Andre. This could well be a serious college curriculum.
Although the sexist comments about the professor's secretary would
surely
get him fired (perhaps he is tenured) at the least he will be
suffering some
serious suing.
On 12/12/04 10:51 AM, Magnus Hippolyte Batavia
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wrote:
Here at Carthage College we are wanting lecturer to give
course on sexuality of Runtime Revolution (when I say
mousedown to my secretary Melanie, she has spontaneous
filing problems). Here at Carthage College in Coyote,
Wyoming, we are at the center of the community and want
people to feel attracted by programming: and Runtime
Revolution is very sexual. So we are wanting lecturer with
PhD to come to our College and give lectures on said
subject and real live demonstrations. Our program chief, Dr
Bhatt, has written Transcript program to remote control
vibrator; but stupid students want to study Buddhism.
Magnus Hippolyte Batavia, PhD, DSc, Sarvabhauma
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Re: Sexuality and Runtime Revolution
On Sunday, December 12, 2004, at 09:30 AM, Marian Petrides wrote: Am I the only one who finds this offensive? Marian No, but I cuss like a drunken sailor. I mean I know it's offensive to others that is. So what part of troll baiting don't you like? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: THESIS now available
Richmond- Thursday, December 9, 2004, 11:52:35 AM, you wrote: M My Thesis in the form that I have submitted it is now M available in HTML format via the FILES page of my website. Well, I'm working my way through it and it's fascinating so far - I'm looking forward to the prototype software. I'm disappointed that you didn't mention either ProGraph or VIP-C, though. Maybe for volume 2, or when you decide to go for the PhuD. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
Alex- Sunday, December 12, 2004, 4:19:27 AM, you wrote: AT I'd prefer if they removed the feature entirely, or as you suggested used AT disabled or some such keyword rather than a comment, preceding the first AT line of the handler. I would, too, now that Ken has set me straight on what the first line is. However, now that I understand what's involved in this, I'm rather apathetic to the whole thing since I don't intend to use this feature at all. I'm changing my bz comment to suggest removal. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing comments in scripts
On Dec 12, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: DS The feature is a by-product of the compiler ignoring top level lines DS that are not top level constructs or commands in Transcript. Ah - so this feature is actually tied into your postings about junk in scripts? Yes. And it also ties to recent discussion on parsing scripts. Should a preprocessor allow for uncommented junk at the top level, or should it assume a clean script? Dar Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating a catch-all for unknown handlers
On 12/12/04 2:41 PM, Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Revolutionaries Is this feasible or just a crazy notion ...? Is there a way to create a catch-all backscript that would catch any unknown handler error and then look through a list of e.g. custom properties to see if it could be evaluated, and then returning the value. This would make it possible to create custom properties with names like client.address.zip and then just use them in your code where a handler would normally be. Well, you can do this now: set the client.address.zip of this stack to 90034 (later:) put the client.address.zip of this stack -- 90034 Does this not do what you want? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: opening stack from subfolder
On Dec 12 2004, at 23:58, Bob Hartley wrote: ... on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp The test.rev file is not opend by the standalone. How do I get it to open this file. ... try on mouseUp go to stack bits/test.rev end mouseUp It's always a good idea to quote strings, hope that helped! Bjoernke ()()()()()()()()()() official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.cjb.net:8080 Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.2.5.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help need to read from file until xxxx OR yyyy OR zzzz
At 15:26 12/12/2004 -0700, Dar Scott wrote: On Dec 12, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Randy Padawer wrote: Let's say a text file occasionally includes the words dogs, cats, and fleas. I need to read until any of these words without skipping any. Unless the file is huge, read it in in one piece with the URL method. Then repeatedly parse it with matchText or matchChunk. Match with a pattern includes what you want and also allows you to obtain the rest of the data for processing more. I'm guessing that the pattern you want includes the front of the string, a bunch of characters, and then either one of the words. The rest is everything after that. If you need help with the regex pattern, just ask. It would be nice to give a char # offset to matchText or matchChunk, but I don't know how. Can't you just do matchText(char currOffset to -1 of theString, tRegEx, tVars) Or, if that won't work, put . currOffset tRegEx into tempRegEx matchText(theString, tempRegEx, tVars) (so the first match is the .N where N is the offset ) ? (Ugly, but I've seen something like this used before in Perl, where ugliness seemed natural :-) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The question was Re: forum
anyone know if this require libURL? andre On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Bob Hartley wrote: Thsi is ok as long as it is in the same folder but in a subfolder bits it wont open. I tried modifying your URL suggestion go stack URL file:/bits/test.rev but the file wont open in the standalone. I'll spend more time on it tomorrow. Thanks for the help. Hope your arm gets better soon. -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX
;-( things are getting worse instead of better. Now I seemed to have shot myself in the foot and cannot even get the postmaster/server to start up at all...let alone connect with rev... OK, following all the advice as bes as I can and also the postgres docshere's where i stand: === OK first of all Pierre was correct, after initdb on installtion, the pg_hba file was in fact automatically installed with two client authenticate records as follows: pg_hba.conf # TYPE DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK METHOD local all all trust # IPv4-style local connections: hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 trust # I infer from this that localhost should work automatically, assuming we can start the server and tcp/ip connections are allowed... So I then edited postmaster.conf and uncommented only three lines, tcpip, max_connections and port # - Connection Settings - tcpip_socket = true max_connections = 50 # note: increasing max_connections costs about 500 bytes of shared # memory per connection slot, in addition to costs from shared_buffers # and max_locks_per_transaction. #superuser_reserved_connections = 2 port = 5432 #unix_socket_directory = '' #unix_socket_group = '' #unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # octal #virtual_host = '' # what interface to listen on; defaults to any #rendezvous_name = '' # defaults to the computer name # - Security Authentication - #authentication_timeout = 60# 1-600, in seconds #ssl = false #password_encryption = true #krb_server_keyfile = '' #db_user_namespace = false lines (and more lines, all commented out) OK, that seems to fulfill everyone's guidance... but: katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$ pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data -i -l logfile start katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$ katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$ ./psql katir_test psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432? katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$ So, no I cannot even start up the server at all. ?? Sivakatirswami On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote: Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it with an -I flag. su - postgres password postgres% /usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data I ( this is the -I flag you enter) Hershel Fisch ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help need to read from file until xxxx OR yyyy OR zzzz
On Dec 12, 2004, at 4:19 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Can't you just do matchText(char currOffset to -1 of theString, tRegEx, tVars) Yes, but that doesn't avoid copying of the rest part in repeated matching. Or, if that won't work, put . currOffset tRegEx into tempRegEx matchText(theString, tempRegEx, tVars) (so the first match is the .N where N is the offset ) ? (Ugly, but I've seen something like this used before in Perl, where ugliness seemed natural :-) If this is fast, then I like this kind of approach. Dar Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
