Re: Table field ... revWriteCellValue
I am not familiar with the handlers you are using but I update my tables this way .. get the data from the field make the change to it set the table property for that field to it ask rev to re-display the table. Here is a snipet I use to delete a line ... on delTableLine pFldNm,pDeleteLineNum put fld(pFldNm) into fldData delete line pDeleteLineNum of fldData set the cREVTable[currentview] of field(pFldNm) to fldData revDisplayFormattedData (fieldquotepFldNmquote) end delTableLine ... I too found enlightenment from Master Jan! From: Jerry Balzano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Table field bug/typo in revWriteCellValue I was having trouble figuring out how to read and write the contents of table fields, so I checked the archive and found a post by Jan Schenkel from last September where he describes how to use the revReadCellValue and revWriteCellValue handlers. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-September/044383.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:36:48 +
Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rev's RE library is based on PCRE, so should be adequately capable.
However, I don't think it's as easy to parse the realistic version of CSV with REs as you might
think.
Well, Alex, it's not so difficult with Perl. If the items in the comma-separated list can contain
other commata, in which case they are enclosed by quotes (optionally otherwise), like
'a,b,c,d', then the Perl script to parse the list looks like:
#!/usr/bin/perl
@s = (
'My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'RunRev List,3,4,...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
foreach (@s) {
if (/*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/) {
print ($_\n\t$1\n\t$2\n\t$3\n);
}
}
This example gives the result:
My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110
1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scrooge
2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RunRev List,3,4,...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RunRev List
3,4,...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
which is what you would expect.
I don't know if it works in Rev because every implementation of RE is a bit different, and Perl
has the best I've come across. Anyway: Perl can be installed on every machine, it's pre-installed
on Unix, Linux and MacOS/X, so just use the power of this language in combination with Rev, RB or
whatever development tool you use, instead of trying to do everything with one tool.
I'm missing this flexibility in the usage of tools in the IT world. Nobody in the industry would
use a Porsche to transport stones (except the ones weared around the neck or wherever ladies have
them), and nobody would drive a fork-lift truck on a (German) Autobahn. Most of us use hands and
feet for their respective purposes. So why do programmers want to use one tool for all?
Cheers,
Thomas G.
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For those of you who find it hard to read regular expressions (they are a good example of a
write-only language):
/*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/
represents 3 times the same group, separated by a comma: *([^]+)*
This expression contains a prefix and a postfix: * - which means zero or more
quotes.
In the middle of the expression - enclosed in brackets - is the term to be extracted: [^]+ -
which reads: any character except a quote, but at least one. If you replace the + with a *, it
would be allowed to have to commata following each other.
The regular expression can be shortened even more, but then it becomes completely
uncomprehensible, and you need more time to comment it than to write it.
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Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Hi,
well, as a test, i've copied and pasted the Perl'RE above
and escaped the quotes.. build the scrpt in revolution with the
results one should expect :-)
so, pretty much the same, isn't it ? :-)
and about speed, so far, so good...
HTH, regards,
thierry
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on mouseup
put empty into tmp
repeat for each line l in field 1
if matchText( l, \?([^\]+)\?,\?([^\]+)\?,\?([^\]+)\?, \
theName, theNumber, theAdress ) then
put l crtab theName crtab theNumber crtab theAdress cr after
tmp
else
put l crtab Can't split this line ?
end if
end repeat
put tmp
end mouseup
Rev's RE library is based on PCRE, so should be adequately capable.
However, I don't think it's as easy to parse the realistic version of CSV
with REs as you might
think.
TG Well, Alex, it's not so difficult with Perl. If the items in the
comma-separated list can contain
TG other commata, in which case they are enclosed by quotes (optionally
otherwise), like
TG 'a,b,c,d', then the Perl script to parse the list looks like:
TG #!/usr/bin/perl
TG @s = (
TG 'My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
TG 'Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
TG 'RunRev List,3,4,...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
TG foreach (@s) {
TG if (/*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/) {
TG print ($_\n\t$1\n\t$2\n\t$3\n);
TG }
TG }
TG This example gives the result:
TG My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110
TG 1
TG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG Scrooge
TG 2
TG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG RunRev List,3,4,...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG RunRev List
TG 3,4,...
TG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TG which is what you would expect.
TG I don't know if it works in Rev because every implementation of RE is a bit
different, and Perl
TG has the best I've come across. Anyway: Perl can be installed on every
machine, it's pre-installed
TG on Unix, Linux and MacOS/X, so just use the power of this language in
combination with Rev, RB or
TG whatever development tool you use, instead of trying to do everything with
one tool.
TG I'm missing this flexibility in the usage of tools in the IT world. Nobody
in the industry would
TG use a Porsche to transport stones (except the ones weared around the neck
or wherever ladies have
TG them), and nobody would drive a fork-lift truck on a (German) Autobahn.
Most of us use hands and
TG feet for their respective purposes. So why do programmers want to use one
tool for all?
TG Cheers,
TG Thomas G.
TG ---
TG For those of you who find it hard to read regular expressions (they are a
good example of a
TG write-only language):
TG /*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/
TG represents 3 times the same group, separated by a comma: *([^]+)*
TG This expression contains a prefix and a postfix: * - which means zero or
more quotes.
TG In the middle of the expression - enclosed in brackets - is the term to be
extracted: [^]+ -
TG which reads: any character except a quote, but at least one. If you replace
the + with a *, it
TG would be allowed to have to commata following each other.
TG The regular expression can be shortened even more, but then it becomes
completely
TG uncomprehensible, and you need more time to comment it than to write it.
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Re: BBEdit as Script Editor
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Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Thomas Gutzmann wrote:
note - I've re-ordered your email to reply to sections of it in a
different order
I don't know if it works in Rev because every implementation of RE is
a bit different, and Perl has the best I've come across. Anyway: Perl
can be installed on every machine, it's pre-installed on Unix, Linux
and MacOS/X, so just use the power of this language in combination
with Rev, RB or whatever development tool you use, instead of trying
to do everything with one tool.
In general, I fully agree with that - use the right tool for the right
job. But if you have a large Rev application, it is neither simple nor
clean to fire up a Perl script to do one small part such as importing a
file from another app; far simpler and better to do it within the Rev
app if feasible. If I had a large, mainly regex app to do, I'd consider
Perl - but within the context of this being 1% of an otherwise Rev app,
it's worthi finding a Transcript or Rev-regex solution.
I'm missing this flexibility in the usage of tools in the IT world.
Nobody in the industry would use a Porsche to transport stones (except
the ones weared around the neck or wherever ladies have them), and
nobody would drive a fork-lift truck on a (German) Autobahn.
That reminds me of the Silicon Valley saying :
You don't need a Porsche to commute 10 miles to work - but you'd
never know that from looking at Highway 101.
Most of us use hands and feet for their respective purposes. So why do
programmers want to use one tool for all?
Because there's a level of inefficiency and discomfort caused by
frequent changes in language and tools. Because it's hard to become an
expert in one language - doing it in Rev and Perl and PHP and Python and
Java and is probably impossible. Because it's easy, but wrong, to
write one language using the style and tricks of another (see various
blog threads about Python's not Java, etc.)
But mostly just because programmers are people :-)
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:36:48 +
Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rev's RE library is based on PCRE, so should be adequately capable.
However, I don't think it's as easy to parse the realistic version of
CSV with REs as you might think.
Well, Alex, it's not so difficult with Perl.
I have to admit I was under the misapprehension that PCRE meant that it
was very close to full Perl; I'm not so sure about that now.
If the items in the comma-separated list can contain other commata, in
which case they are enclosed by quotes (optionally otherwise), like
'a,b,c,d', then the Perl script to parse the list looks like:
#!/usr/bin/perl
@s = (
'My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'RunRev List,3,4,...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
foreach (@s) {
if (/*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/) {
print ($_\n\t$1\n\t$2\n\t$3\n);
}
}
Yeah - that's a good start. In the scoring system I invented last
night while looking at various csv scripts, that's probably a 60% or
70% solution; it's the remaining 30% that is hard.
This is NOT a challenge ! If you want to go further because you're
interested - please do. But don't feel that I'm challenging you to do
so. I have a solution (scripted) that is perfectly adequate in coverage
(maybe 90% or 95% - certainly not 100%), and more than adequate in speed.
The remaining cases include (but are not limited to)
- embedded CRs (or newline, or line breaks)
- embedded quotes, which can be either escaped (preceded by '\') or
more often doubled (a field named alex is here)
(but each file should have one or other - never seen both in the
same file, though it wouldn't surprise me
if some MS product did that)
- including (or excluding) non-embedded spaces before or after the
quoted field)
The best example of the embedded quote case is
My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
which should (obviously) give
My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110
1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Hi Alex,
a 100% solution is not possible with one RE because embedded quotes cannot be converted at the
same time as the rest is parsed.
The best example of the embedded quote case is
My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have modified the Perl script to convert double doublequotes (x) to single simple quotes
('x'). It's just one way, and of course I'm using a regular expression for that:
#!/usr/bin/perl
@s = (
'My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'RunRev List,3,
4,
...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
' My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]');
foreach (@s) {
print (Original: $_\n);
s/([^]*)/'$1'/g;
print (After replacement: $_\n);
if (/*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*,*([^]+)*/) {
print (\tItem 1: $1\n\tItem 2: $2\n\tItem 3: $3\n);
}
}
The result is
Original: My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After replacement: My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Item 1: My family, My PowerBook, My Defender 110
Item 2: 1
Item 3: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original: Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After replacement: Scrooge,2,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Item 1: Scrooge
Item 2: 2
Item 3: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original: RunRev List,3,
4,
...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After replacement: RunRev List,3,
4,
...,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Item 1: RunRev List
Item 2: 3,
4,
...
Item 3: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original: My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110,1,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
After replacement: 'My family','My PowerBook','My Defender 110',1,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Item 1: 'My family','My PowerBook','My Defender 110'
Item 2: 1
Item 3: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As you can see, embedded newline characters don't affect the result; this problem must be solved
in the routine reading the lines. You can also ignore EOL bei excluding $ (this is EOL for RE),
but I haven't tested it, and I also don't have the time for it. Normally, you don't have these
problems.
Most of us use hands and feet for their respective purposes. So why do
programmers want to use one tool for all?
Because there's a level of inefficiency and discomfort caused by frequent changes in language
and tools. Because it's hard to become an expert in one language - doing it in Rev and Perl and
PHP and Python and Java and is probably impossible. Because it's easy, but wrong, to write
one language using the style and tricks of another (see various blog threads about Python's not
Java, etc.)
But mostly just because programmers are people :-)
Well, I don't agree. A good programmer should master a whole box of tools, and I also expect good
developers to be multilingual. One of the problems we have in IT today comes from the fact, that
too many people learn just one language (Java), and just the basics of database systems (primitive
SQL à la MySQL, no procedural SQL), and that they are also limited in their knowledge of tools.
In a philosphical view, only knowledge gives you the possibility to choose, to differentiate, and
to understand. This, in short, is one of the most important aspects of free will - in public and
private life as well as in the job. An old saying in Germany goes like Knowledge gives you
freedom (Wissen macht frei).
But this discussion doesn't belong here.
Cheers,
Thomas G.
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Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Thomas Gutzmann wrote:
Hi Alex,
a 100% solution is not possible with one RE because embedded quotes
cannot be converted at the same time as the rest is parsed.
But I don't think they can be simply substituted independent of the parsing.
The best example of the embedded quote case is
My family,My PowerBook,My Defender
110,1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have modified the Perl script to convert double doublequotes (x)
to single simple quotes ('x'). It's just one way, and of course I'm
using a regular expression for that:
Good try - you may be up to 75% or 80% now :-) :-)
But it fails on a few very common cases, including empty, quoted fields
and multiple adjacent quotes within fields
d:\Our Documents\Alex perl re1.pl
Original: My family,My PowerBook,My Defender
110,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After replacement: 'My family','My PowerBook','My Defender
110',,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Item 1: 'My family','My PowerBook'
Item 2: 'My Defender 110'
Item 3: ,
d:\Our Documents\Alex
I'm sure there's a way round this too but I suspect it's time to
stop drawing out these examples.
As you can see, embedded newline characters don't affect the result;
this problem must be solved in the routine reading the lines. You can
also ignore EOL bei excluding $ (this is EOL for RE), but I haven't
tested it, and I also don't have the time for it. Normally, you don't
have these problems.
Actually, normally I do have this problem. Palm Pilot exports usually
have embedded CR within quoted fields, and that's one I often deal with.
Most of us use hands and feet for their respective purposes. So why
do programmers want to use one tool for all?
Because there's a level of inefficiency and discomfort caused by
frequent changes in language and tools. Because it's hard to become
an expert in one language - doing it in Rev and Perl and PHP and
Python and Java and is probably impossible. Because it's easy,
but wrong, to write one language using the style and tricks of
another (see various blog threads about Python's not Java, etc.)
But mostly just because programmers are people :-)
Well, I don't agree. A good programmer should master a whole box of
tools, and I also expect good developers to be multilingual.
I didn't say that programmers *should* use one tool (in fact, I said
they should use multiple).
These were the reasons why , IMO, programmers *want* to use one tool :-)
One of the problems we have in IT today comes from the fact, that too
many people learn just one language (Java), and just the basics of
database systems (primitive SQL à la MySQL, no procedural SQL), and
that they are also limited in their knowledge of tools.
Yeah, I've often advocated multiple tools on this list -
Python/Pythoncard is my common alternate to RunRev.
I used Perl fairly extensively back in the early days ('88-'91 or '92)
and developed an allergy to it then; maybe it's time to give it another try.
Cheers
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Re: gestalt options
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Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Alex, you nightmare,
But it fails on a few very common cases, including empty, quoted fields and multiple adjacent
quotes within fields
d:\Our Documents\Alex perl re1.pl
Original: My family,My PowerBook,My Defender
110,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
After replacement: 'My family','My PowerBook','My Defender
110',,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Item 1: 'My family','My PowerBook'
Item 2: 'My Defender 110'
Item 3: ,
d:\Our Documents\Alex
I'm sure there's a way round this too but I suspect it's time to stop drawing out these
examples.
#!/usr/bin/perl
@s = (
'My family,My PowerBook,My Defender 110,,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]');
foreach (@s) {
print (Original: $_\n);
s/([^]*)/'$1'/g;
print (After replacement: $_\n);
if (/*([^]*)*,*([^]*)*,*([^]*)*/) {
print (\tItem 1: $1\n\tItem 2: $2\n\tItem 3: $3\n);
}
}
I disallowed empty string by using + instead of * - using * solves this
issue.
As you can see, embedded newline characters don't affect the result;
this problem must be solved in the routine reading the lines. You can
also ignore EOL bei excluding $ (this is EOL for RE), but I haven't
tested it, and I also don't have the time for it. Normally, you don't
have these problems.
Actually, normally I do have this problem. Palm Pilot exports usually have embedded CR within
quoted fields, and that's one I often deal with.
It depends if the embedded CR is an EOL. If no, my example works unchanged. If yes, it takes some
more thinking, because you have to identify true end-of-lines (which are end-of-records in this
case), and you have to cope with missing fields which would screw up everything. But I suspect
that there is a distinction between end-of-line (e.g. CR) and end-of-record (e.g. LF or CR/LF) -
most decent programmers would create some sort of record boundary, while the embedded CR is used
for field formatting.
By the way, I can understand your aversion against Perl. But it has it's virtues, if you use it
for well defined and limited purposes, keep programs short and spend enough time on clean
programming and documentation. But whom do I tell it...
Cheers,
Thomas G.
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Re: Date Troubles
The date formats only works over a short period of time, about 2^32 seconds (4 byte word). That is about 1934 to 2035. If you are using dates outside of that region then you need to work with dateItems and seconds. I think dateItems gives you the largest time span. To do this you have to convert your date to a dateItem with your own handler, not the convert function: put 7/18/1868 into theDate put myDateItemHandler(theDate) into theDate function myDateItemHandler theDate get the itemDelimiter -- this get/set may not be needed set the itemDelimiter to / put item 1 of theDate into theMonth put item 2 of theDate into theDay put item 3 of theDate into theYear set the itemDelimiter to it-- this get/set may not be needed return theYearcommatheMonthcommatheDaycommacommacommacomma end myDateItemHandler You can convert this dateItem to seconds and do your calculations. If you want to return a date convert your seconds to dateItems and write a handler which creates your desired date format. Michael On Jan 17, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: What do I need to do to make the following work right? To get the centuries right? put 7/18/1868 into temp put temp into fld 1 convert temp to seconds put -- temp after fld 1 convert temp to long date put -- temp after fld 1 Hi Nelson, The only way I could get it to work was to use Julian dates. if you go to my web page, you will see a DateTime library: DateTime.rev.gz, which includes functions for translating dates to from Julian format, originally written by Mark Weider. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icon for Rev exec?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For what purpose? You could always do something like this: set the embeddedIconFile of this stack to URL binfile:iconfile.ico Then to store the embedded icon into a file again: put the embeddedIconFile of this stack into URL binfile:iconfile.ico Is that something like what you are after? If you can be more specific about why you are trying to embed the icon, what platform you are on, etc., we could be of a little more help... On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:54 PM, Paul Salyers wrote: Is there a way to imbed a icon file to a Rev executable. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB7SEf7aqtWrR9cZoRArd1AJ46/K8iacbFFcE7gZcvA9MLklWU5QCeNB++ WY7U7PO7Hjxx1BesmMqqBNU= =rUqr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Icon File
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rev 5.5? Wow! Where do I get my copy ;-) It's looking for an icon file based on the OS X path to the icon, which obviously does not exist under windows (that path is stored in the stack file, so when you created the stack on the Mac, the Mac path to the icon was stored in the file). You either need to change the path from within Standalone Builder, or you could try to recreate the path under Windows and put the icon there. c:\ mkdir c:\Applications c:\ mkdir c:\Applications\Revolution2.2 c:\ mkdir c:\Applications\Revolution2.2\Sample Icons c:\ copy path-to-icon\genericapp.ico c:\Applications\Revolution2.2\Sample Icons (untested; I don't have Rev for Windows, but I suspect that would work; I'm reasonably certain of the diagnosis). On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:50 AM, John Miller wrote: I'm using Revolution 2.2 on Windows XP. When I try to create my standalone app, I get an error message . . . Can't open Windows icon file: /Applications/Revolution2.2/Sample Icons/genericapp.ico The same app compiles without problem on my Mac using OS X. I tried reinstalling the program - no luck! I also installed Revolution 5.5 and copied the Sample Icon Folder into the 2.2 folder - no good either. Any suggestions? Sincerely, John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB7SNI7aqtWrR9cZoRAjVfAJ4lr+XAGtTsg5I5S8s+230QWSf/aQCcCxXN i3GlYB8jldQPIS+P343DClA= =PEmd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Programming Contest: Mars Rescue.
Andre, That sounds like allot of fun! The objective of plotting the shortest path sounds very similar to what Strabo Pathfinder does. Strabo is a program used by robotics enthusiasts to map out the rooms of their home to allow a robot (we'll assume that it is a mars rover) to move freely on the map without crashing into walls and furniture. More info about Strabo Pathfinder can be found at: http://www.wehali.com/robotics/strabo.htm Anyways, the algorithms used to plot the shortest route is one that are Dijkstra and A* (commonly used in games). I have no clue as to how it works, but I would love to see the algorithm recreated in transcript. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 01/17/2005 at 11:56 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, doctor dobbs journal is sponsoring a programming challenge called the mars rescue. They want as many languages as possible to be featured in the competition. I thought why not team up a Rev team? we've got till feb 1 to ship our code... http://www.frank-buss.de/marsrescue/ The contest is a simple one, program receives a text input with map instructions in ASCII, think a little, plot shortest path to the object... much more info at the url, I am reading it still. But we could team and use MagicCarpet and RevChat for our world wide coordinated effort. I could provide FTP and eMail accounts as needed at WeCode.org cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia ? 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Icon for Rev exec?
I have Windows 2000 Pro. I'm trying to make a icon for my program. I'm getting an error in Rev. about the format not being right. What icon program will work with Rev? Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic
The problem with large class libraries is that (with a bit of exaggeration) only the developer understands them, and when they are very large, with many subclasses, he will only understand them until he's got nuts. Um... This is one of those odd cliché translation sort of things... Really kinda funny, but just FYI - The English phrase would be until he's gone nuts - the odds are that 'he' has already got nuts, regardless of the state of his current mental health. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:06:16 -0500 Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with large class libraries is that (with a bit of exaggeration) only the developer understands them, and when they are very large, with many subclasses, he will only understand them until he's got nuts. Um... This is one of those odd cliché translation sort of things... Really kinda funny, but just FYI - The English phrase would be until he's gone nuts - the odds are that 'he' has already got nuts, regardless of the state of his current mental health. Thank you for the correction - life is dangerous for nonnatives. I remember to other traps: - an English colleague bringing me back to the hotel asked me if we were near. I didn't understand why he laughed when I asked him to drive me round the bend. - in my very first meeting in England I had to explain that I was self-employed (at that time). One possible German word which sprang up to my mind was Unternehmer. Unter is under, nehmen is to take, but I was definitely no undertaker - and the auditorium was amused. I was also told to avoid on the job in certain cases. I'm glad that most English people I know are very tolerant and polite. Thomas G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
I am American - the differences between American English and English English can be quite funny. Warning - This story is a wee bit risque, for the easily offended, but is very funny. I have a friend who worked in the U.K. for a few months. When she first got there, she wore her waist pack to work. This is a thing that wraps around your hips and has a pouch for carrying stuff. One day she she had set it down, and was looking for it. When she could not find it, she started asking her colleagues if they had seen it. Specifically, she kept asking everyone if they had seen her fanny pack - which is a perfectly acceptable term for a waist pack in the United States. In the U.S., the term fanny is a mostly non-offensive term for a person's bum. She just couldn't understand why the entire office was laughing at her. The way she tells it, some of her office mates were practically on the floor, laughing so hard they could not breathe. Well, apparently, the term fanny in the U.K. does not refer to the bum, it refers to a woman's clitoris. After they were able to speak, they informed her of exactly what she was saying, and she was so embarrassed she thought she would just die. I guess the lesson is to be careful of those little translation errors as quickly as possible when visiting other countries. For English folk visiting the United States, if you wish to smoke (a habit I strongly advise quitting), please do not go around asking people for a fag - you might not get what you were expecting. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Gutzmann Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:40 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RunRev vs RealBasic On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:06:16 -0500 Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with large class libraries is that (with a bit of exaggeration) only the developer understands them, and when they are very large, with many subclasses, he will only understand them until he's got nuts. Um... This is one of those odd cliché translation sort of things... Really kinda funny, but just FYI - The English phrase would be until he's gone nuts - the odds are that 'he' has already got nuts, regardless of the state of his current mental health. Thank you for the correction - life is dangerous for nonnatives. I remember to other traps: - an English colleague bringing me back to the hotel asked me if we were near. I didn't understand why he laughed when I asked him to drive me round the bend. - in my very first meeting in England I had to explain that I was self-employed (at that time). One possible German word which sprang up to my mind was Unternehmer. Unter is under, nehmen is to take, but I was definitely no undertaker - and the auditorium was amused. I was also told to avoid on the job in certain cases. I'm glad that most English people I know are very tolerant and polite. Thomas G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
I am American - the differences between American English and English English can be quite funny. My best friend in Chicago was in Switzerland over some friends' place at breakfast looking at the fruit jelly pot and she asked naturally if there were preservatives in the it... She speaks reasonably good french and was actually living in europe among friends to learn it. So she asked it in French... Il y t'il des preservatifs dans la confiture? Everyone at the table burst laughing except her! Well, preservatif is translated in french as condoms not as agents conservateurs! If you know the You know what's disgusting? Cool Whip (US pseudo mayo) pot joke I do, you must be on the floor gone histerically laughing now! ROTFL! X ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Opening custom files by Drag and Drop in standalone application
on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 Ken Ray wrote: When you launch an MC/Rev app, any command line information is sent to the application and is retrievable via *environment variables* numbered $0 on up. Hi Ken, I have read this useful Programming tip in your website, and TRY to use it in an standalone player to OPEN ONLY the custom documents of that application. But when i drag and drop a Rev or MC stack to a standalone i had created, IT OPENS... :-( I really expected that a REV or MC stack do not open in my standalone... The documents that i scripted to open are a custom made binary string. When my standalone is opened, i could click a button to read and open the binary string correctly... but i want too that my files open by drag and drop and that ANY OTHER FILE like rev, mc or custom made extensions stacks do not open in my standalone... How could i script this functionality in my standalone? Thanks in advance. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
not really ;)) but you got it directly from the source! Im keeping the joke in my clipboard for a while just in case! `mu -Original Message- From: Lynch, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 18:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic) That's funny! I don't know the cool whip joke - but it sounds intriguing - is it one you can say here? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MisterX Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:52 PM To: 'How to use Revolution' Subject: RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic) I am American - the differences between American English and English English can be quite funny. My best friend in Chicago was in Switzerland over some friends' place at breakfast looking at the fruit jelly pot and she asked naturally if there were preservatives in the it... She speaks reasonably good french and was actually living in europe among friends to learn it. So she asked it in French... Il y t'il des preservatifs dans la confiture? Everyone at the table burst laughing except her! Well, preservatif is translated in french as condoms not as agents conservateurs! If you know the You know what's disgusting? Cool Whip (US pseudo mayo) pot joke I do, you must be on the floor gone histerically laughing now! ROTFL! X ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
I had to contribute this one regarding the distinction between the Queen's English and American English. Wait until you mix the Queen's English with Good Ol' Southern (U.S.) English. I am from Greenville, South Carolina (that's not the funny part yet ;-P ). I went to the University of South Carolina where I had a British friend who was taken aback when he saw signs posted around campus advertising shagging lessons. Then only to find out that the State Dance of South Carolina is the Shag! Needless to say, there is quite a difference in the British and Southern U.S. definition of shag. The Southern shag is an actual lively dance with lots of spinning and twirling to rock-a-billy type beach music. The British shag is a more...er...primal dance. -James Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/2005 12:07 PM Please respond to How to use Revolution To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com cc: Subject:RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic) I am American - the differences between American English and English English can be quite funny. Warning - This story is a wee bit risque, for the easily offended, but is very funny. I have a friend who worked in the U.K. for a few months. When she first got there, she wore her waist pack to work. This is a thing that wraps around your hips and has a pouch for carrying stuff. One day she she had set it down, and was looking for it. When she could not find it, she started asking her colleagues if they had seen it. Specifically, she kept asking everyone if they had seen her fanny pack - which is a perfectly acceptable term for a waist pack in the United States. In the U.S., the term fanny is a mostly non-offensive term for a person's bum. She just couldn't understand why the entire office was laughing at her. The way she tells it, some of her office mates were practically on the floor, laughing so hard they could not breathe. Well, apparently, the term fanny in the U.K. does not refer to the bum, it refers to a woman's clitoris. After they were able to speak, they informed her of exactly what she was saying, and she was so embarrassed she thought she would just die. I guess the lesson is to be careful of those little translation errors as quickly as possible when visiting other countries. For English folk visiting the United States, if you wish to smoke (a habit I strongly advise quitting), please do not go around asking people for a fag - you might not get what you were expecting. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Gutzmann Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:40 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RunRev vs RealBasic On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:06:16 -0500 Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with large class libraries is that (with a bit of exaggeration) only the developer understands them, and when they are very large, with many subclasses, he will only understand them until he's got nuts. Um... This is one of those odd cliché translation sort of things... Really kinda funny, but just FYI - The English phrase would be until he's gone nuts - the odds are that 'he' has already got nuts, regardless of the state of his current mental health. Thank you for the correction - life is dangerous for nonnatives. I remember to other traps: - an English colleague bringing me back to the hotel asked me if we were near. I didn't understand why he laughed when I asked him to drive me round the bend. - in my very first meeting in England I had to explain that I was self-employed (at that time). One possible German word which sprang up to my mind was Unternehmer. Unter is under, nehmen is to take, but I was definitely no undertaker - and the auditorium was amused. I was also told to avoid on the job in certain cases. I'm glad that most English people I know are very tolerant and polite. Thomas G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Hi Developers, I've read this series of messages with a lot of interest, because parsing, modifying and saving foreign data within RunRev is a daily task for most computer programmers... but, i keep wondering about the kind of data that you are talking about: comma separated values I know that csv are simple text files. If i change a simple character within a binary file, surely MOST of the applications will refuse to open the file. It's not possible to check if the entire file is a valid comma separated value archive, before processing For example, checking the number of comma separated items in every line and flag and error if there is a deviation... Some apps identify themselves in the archive they write. (I know that Adobe ilustrator and pdf files had a tag to identify the creator of the files) IF every application that export data as csv, identify themselves, developers could use different code to parse the file. Which apps identify themselves in the cvs data And finally... The apps that exports data as cvs, must provide some way to convert this comma character within the record of the exported data... or maybe not. :-( Which apps do have or not have the KNOW-HOW to export data as cvs correctly Thanks in advance for your answers! :-) al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows externals and the imagePixmapID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know what form the imagePixmapID takes under the Windows engine for Rev? Is it an HBITMAP or an HDC, or something else entirely? Thank you! - - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB7VkN7aqtWrR9cZoRAqMYAJ4ooEuOcblOnUUz2LLwcl7OxvahyQCfaQrX tHEgStdm/CnD1DLueFNoM2Y= =wV7X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
the words fag and pissed also got me thrown off balance ! a fag is a cigarette in uk, a homo in us pissed means drunk in uk+au, angered in us! Anyway, foul language is not for software to learn right? Let alone its meaning! ;)) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 19:58 To: How to use Revolution Subject: RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic) I had to contribute this one regarding the distinction between the Queen's English and American English. Wait until you mix the Queen's English with Good Ol' Southern (U.S.) English. I am from Greenville, South Carolina (that's not the funny part yet ;-P ). I went to the University of South Carolina where I had a British friend who was taken aback when he saw signs posted around campus advertising shagging lessons. Then only to find out that the State Dance of South Carolina is the Shag! Needless to say, there is quite a difference in the British and Southern U.S. definition of shag. The Southern shag is an actual lively dance with lots of spinning and twirling to rock-a-billy type beach music. The British shag is a more...er...primal dance. -James Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/2005 12:07 PM Please respond to How to use Revolution To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com cc: Subject:RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic) I am American - the differences between American English and English English can be quite funny. Warning - This story is a wee bit risque, for the easily offended, but is very funny. I have a friend who worked in the U.K. for a few months. When she first got there, she wore her waist pack to work. This is a thing that wraps around your hips and has a pouch for carrying stuff. One day she she had set it down, and was looking for it. When she could not find it, she started asking her colleagues if they had seen it. Specifically, she kept asking everyone if they had seen her fanny pack - which is a perfectly acceptable term for a waist pack in the United States. In the U.S., the term fanny is a mostly non-offensive term for a person's bum. She just couldn't understand why the entire office was laughing at her. The way she tells it, some of her office mates were practically on the floor, laughing so hard they could not breathe. Well, apparently, the term fanny in the U.K. does not refer to the bum, it refers to a woman's clitoris. After they were able to speak, they informed her of exactly what she was saying, and she was so embarrassed she thought she would just die. I guess the lesson is to be careful of those little translation errors as quickly as possible when visiting other countries. For English folk visiting the United States, if you wish to smoke (a habit I strongly advise quitting), please do not go around asking people for a fag - you might not get what you were expecting. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Gutzmann Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:40 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RunRev vs RealBasic On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:06:16 -0500 Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with large class libraries is that (with a bit of exaggeration) only the developer understands them, and when they are very large, with many subclasses, he will only understand them until he's got nuts. Um... This is one of those odd cliché translation sort of things... Really kinda funny, but just FYI - The English phrase would be until he's gone nuts - the odds are that 'he' has already got nuts, regardless of the state of his current mental health. Thank you for the correction - life is dangerous for nonnatives. I remember to other traps: - an English colleague bringing me back to the hotel asked me if we were near. I didn't understand why he laughed when I asked him to drive me round the bend. - in my very first meeting in England I had to explain that I was self-employed (at that time). One possible German word which sprang up to my mind was Unternehmer. Unter is under, nehmen is to take, but I was definitely no undertaker - and the auditorium was amused. I was also told to avoid on the job in certain cases. I'm glad that most English people I know are very tolerant and polite. Thomas G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parse a CSV File with Regular Expressions
Alejandro Tejada wrote: Which apps do have or not have the KNOW-HOW to export data as cvs correctly The difficulty with CSV is that there is no true standard. It's an ad-hoc format that has forked many times, so much so that today not even Microsoft implements it consistently among its various apps. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SoCal RUG meeting this Friday
We're set for our next SoCal Rev User Group meeting on Friday, January 21, at 7pm. It'll be here at the Fourth World Embassy in downtown Los Angeles -- if any of you would like to attend and haven't been here before just drop me an email and I'll send you directions. Agenda: 7pm: Trevor will show off his nifty QT externals and anything else he wants to discuss 8pm: dinner at Barbara's, the restaurant here in the complex 9pm: back here for dessert and a mystery demo: Mark Talutto's talk on his open source presentation tool has been postponed for a future meeting, but we have a few candidates to choose from for a replacement, ranging from possibly talking Ken Ray into a presentation (since he's flying in and it's rare to get him here) to possibly a demo of a new bug reporting tool and its underlying serverless client-server database library by yours truly. TBD. 10pm: TGIF! Anyone who wants to stay late to participate in the First RUG Shuffleboard Tournament can enjoy a game over scotch, wine, or diet coke, as you prefer. Shuffleboard pursists beware: we use unusual rules here. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ignorant questions regarding Macs
I am on a windows system, so I am not too familiar with Macs. (Last one I worked on was a Mac SE) My question is this - is there a way to use a multi-button mouse and/or a mouse wheel on a Mac? I find both right-clicking and using the mouse wheel very convenient. The Rev docs always talk about holding down the option button while using the mouse button to simulate a right-click on a Mac. But, if you plugged a multi-button mouse into a Mac, would there be a way to use the right button or the mouse wheel? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ignorant questions regarding Macs
Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is this - is there a way to use a multi-button mouse and/or a mouse wheel on a Mac? At this very moment, I am using a ...Microsoft mouse, with 2 buttons and a wheel! -- At least, they do correctly one thing at Microsoft: mouses ;- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ignorant questions regarding Macs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Absolutely! I am using one on a Mac right now. The Classic Mac OS (OS 7/8/9) requires special drivers to be supplied by the hardware (mouse) manufacturer, but OS X supports this natively. In fact, the mouse I am using right now (a Labtec brand USB optical mouse with two buttons plus a scroll wheel, which also serves as a middle button) was packaged for Windows only. Requirements: Windows ... -- I bought it anyway, plugged it in, and it just works. The scroll wheel scrolls, the right button brings up context menus, etc... no problem. And yes, it works with Rev too. On Jan 18, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: I am on a windows system, so I am not too familiar with Macs. (Last one I worked on was a Mac SE) My question is this - is there a way to use a multi-button mouse and/or a mouse wheel on a Mac? I find both right-clicking and using the mouse wheel very convenient. The Rev docs always talk about holding down the option button while using the mouse button to simulate a right-click on a Mac. But, if you plugged a multi-button mouse into a Mac, would there be a way to use the right button or the mouse wheel? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB7Xik7aqtWrR9cZoRAiYbAJwIxMbp48CRTFUj8sEKRrBVEFFXPwCgh8ya V3hXvHyvHon17OqGVnEa6c4= =+wcS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Error in Standalone-Builder
Hello list, some time ago (Revolution 2.1) a built a little database using the splash-stack-method and compiled it successfull for Mac OS9, OSX, Windows. Now I got Revolution 2.5 Studio, changed this and that in my database-stacks and tried to compile it again. The compilation-process starts and after some time I get the answer There was an error while saving the standalone application. Nothing more! Again I compiled the stacks with Rev 2.1; It worked! What may I do now? any help? Richard. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ignorant questions regarding Macs
is there a way to use a multi-button mouse and/or a mouse wheel on a Mac? Absolutely!! I use the Logitech Marble Mouse with a left and right button AND a left and right scroll button. I needed to install the Logitech Control Center software to adjust tracking speed, etc. But it works great. The Rev docs always talk about holding down the option button while using the mouse button to simulate a right-click on a Mac. To emulate the right-click, that should be the control key plus mouse click for one-button mice or laptops. if you plugged a multi-button mouse into a Mac, would there be a way to use the right button or the mouse wheel? MacOSX will support just about any standard multi-button mouse. To get all the bells and whistles, you may have to install the software that comes with the mouse. -James Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/05 03:35 PM Please respond to How to use Revolution To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com cc: Subject:Ignorant questions regarding Macs I am on a windows system, so I am not too familiar with Macs. (Last one I worked on was a Mac SE) My question is this - is there a way to use a multi-button mouse and/or a mouse wheel on a Mac? I find both right-clicking and using the mouse wheel very convenient. The Rev docs always talk about holding down the option button while using the mouse button to simulate a right-click on a Mac. But, if you plugged a multi-button mouse into a Mac, would there be a way to use the right button or the mouse wheel? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (nothing to do with it really)
On 19/01/2005, at 4:00, Thomas Gutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm glad that most English people I know are very tolerant and polite. Probably less so than those people who have managed my Australian-accented French and German with only the ripple of a suppressed smile. :-) It has always been a pleasure to visit your countries. I now realise a tactful need to add that I have also enjoyed visiting America, and Italy and Japan and Vanuatu ... oh forget it. David Thomas G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Characters not displaying in a field?
I'm trying to put 14 characters into a field, no spaces. The put into field statement has two variables that get concatenated put return variableA return bunchOCharacters into field thefield VariableA shows up in the field but bunchOCharacters does not When I copy the contents of the field and paste into a text document, the bunchOCharacters data is in the text document What's up? Why does the text, bunchOCharacters, not display in the field? Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
kee nethery wrote: I'm trying to put 14 characters into a field, no spaces. The put into field statement has two variables that get concatenated put return variableA return bunchOCharacters into field thefield VariableA shows up in the field but bunchOCharacters does not When I copy the contents of the field and paste into a text document, the bunchOCharacters data is in the text document What's up? Why does the text, bunchOCharacters, not display in the field? This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. What is the end-user looking for in a display of 14 characters? Could there be another way to present that information which would both fit in the 64k-per-line limit and give them an easier time finding what they need? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Characters not displaying in a field?
Is there any kind of similar limit for variables? I have a script that creates html. For the app the html is being pasted into, I cannot have return characters in it. So, after compiling all the html into a variable, I replace the linefeeds with empty (and have tried other means of substitution as well). Occassionally (about 1 in 10 cases) it will refuse to put the extended data (without linefeeds) into a variable (which is just put into the clipboard, not into a field). Instead, it will cut off the data partway into it. If I do not remove the linefeeds, then it does not cut off the data. I am a bit stumped by it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:47 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Characters not displaying in a field? kee nethery wrote: I'm trying to put 14 characters into a field, no spaces. The put into field statement has two variables that get concatenated put return variableA return bunchOCharacters into field thefield VariableA shows up in the field but bunchOCharacters does not When I copy the contents of the field and paste into a text document, the bunchOCharacters data is in the text document What's up? Why does the text, bunchOCharacters, not display in the field? This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. What is the end-user looking for in a display of 14 characters? Could there be another way to present that information which would both fit in the 64k-per-line limit and give them an easier time finding what they need? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (wandered a wee bit off topic)
Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a friend who worked in the U.K. for a few months. When she first got there, she wore her waist pack to work. This is a thing that wraps around your hips and has a pouch for carrying stuff. One day she she had set it down, and was looking for it. When she could not find it, she started asking her colleagues if they had seen it. Specifically, she kept asking everyone if they had seen her fanny pack - which is a perfectly acceptable term for a waist pack in the United States. In the U.S., the term fanny is a mostly non-offensive term for a person's bum. She just couldn't understand why the entire office was laughing at her. The way she tells it, some of her office mates were practically on the floor, laughing so hard they could not breathe. Well, apparently, the term fanny in the U.K. does not refer to the bum, it refers to a woman's clitoris. After they were able to speak, they informed her of exactly what she was saying, and she was so embarrassed she thought she would just die. Rather like my Australian colleague who didn't understand why her fellow teacher gaped when she asked him if he had a rubber. (in the US a rubber is a condom, in other English-speaking countries it's an eraser) - marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error in Standalone-Builder
There seem to be a couple of common causes for this problem: - make sure the folder path you are building into does not contain any weird characters. - don't have the standalone search for inclusions but select them manually And make sure you have done Check for updates which includes an update to the standalone settings stack. Cheers, Sarah On 19 Jan 2005, at 7:09 am, R. Hillen wrote: Hello list, some time ago (Revolution 2.1) a built a little database using the splash-stack-method and compiled it successfull for Mac OS9, OSX, Windows. Now I got Revolution 2.5 Studio, changed this and that in my database-stacks and tried to compile it again. The compilation-process starts and after some time I get the answer There was an error while saving the standalone application. Nothing more! Again I compiled the stacks with Rev 2.1; It worked! What may I do now? any help? Richard. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (nothing to do with it really)
sorry, just had to add one more to this thread... While in the Galapagos our Ecuadorian guide (who was extremely hansom and charming) on the boat spoke perfect queens english (having been educated in BP oil school in ecuador). On the first night out he was asking folks what time they wanted to get up the next morning to start going ashore and turned to my female friend on the trip and said: Barbara, when would you like me to come around and knock you up in the morning? (in perfectly accented queens english) knocking someone up in america is getting them pregnant, not knocking on their door... needless to say i have never seen her so speechless and this is someone who has a comment for every moment! I think she wanted the american translation instead of the British... the other joke is this guy had very beautiful long black hair, but is a small chap at about 5'5'' and his name is Fabio, he couldn't understand why we we were laughing at his name... we did send him a Fabio calendar for xmas. cheers, jeff Jeffrey Reynolds 6620 Michaels Dr Bethesda, MD 20817 301.469.8562 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (nothing to do with it really)
Hi Jeff, sorry, just had to add one more to this thread... ... the other joke is this guy had very beautiful long black hair, but is a small chap at about 5'5'' and his name is Fabio, he couldn't understand why we we were laughing at his name... we did send him a Fabio calendar for xmas. ehmm, well my name is not Fabio and my hair is DEFINITIVELY shorter, but i don't understand this one either :-( Could you give me a hint, please? :-) cheers, jeff Jeffrey Reynolds 6620 Michaels Dr Bethesda, MD 20817 301.469.8562 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards form germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On Jan 18, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. The field can hold up to about 64k of characters, IIRC, but can display a line correctly if the line is less than about 32K pixels before the soft line break. This hits both limits. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Characters not displaying in a field?
I have a field (for a spellcheck) that contains 174,000 words - each on a different line - and it works fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:49 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Characters not displaying in a field? On Jan 18, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. The field can hold up to about 64k of characters, IIRC, but can display a line correctly if the line is less than about 32K pixels before the soft line break. This hits both limits. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error in Standalone-Builder
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:08:29 +0100 From: R. Hillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Error in Standalone-Builder To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello list, some time ago (Revolution 2.1) a built a little database using the splash-stack-method and compiled it successfull for Mac OS9, OSX, Windows. Now I got Revolution 2.5 Studio, changed this and that in my database-stacks and tried to compile it again. The compilation-process starts and after some time I get the answer There was an error while saving the standalone application. Nothing more! Again I compiled the stacks with Rev 2.1; It worked! What may I do now? any help? Richard. Richard--and anyone who knows the answer to this problem, I have the same problem, but with RR 2.2.1. I've submitted it to support and as yet no resolution. I can compile the stack in RR 1.1.1. Since the stack works within the 1.1.1 IDE, I assume the standalone will work even though the stack was created within the 2.2.1 environment. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (nothing to do with it really)
On 1/18/05 4:32 PM, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ehmm, well my name is not Fabio and my hair is DEFINITIVELY shorter, but i don't understand this one either :-( Could you give me a hint, please? :-) Klaus, do a Google search for fabio and you'll see what he means... :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On 1/18/05 4:49 PM, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. The field can hold up to about 64k of characters, IIRC, but can display a line correctly if the line is less than about 32K pixels before the soft line break. This hits both limits. Actually, a field can hold 4 GB, but each line has to be 64K or less. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Calendar Object
Thanx for the links Paul thats exactly what I am looking for, took a bit of rehashing the code to suit my stack and had a clash of image ID' but it's all sorted now, the 30 mins to rehash sure beats writing it from scratch! ;?) Cheers.Dwayne I use a stack by Shao Sean http://dark.unitz.ca/~shaosean/downloads/objcalendar112.zip http://dark.unitz.ca/%7Eshaosean/downloads/objcalendar112.zip - it works really well with some modifications. Cheers, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to call the windows system calendar or know of a calendar object to be used in a sub stack? Basically I am looking for a calendar you can select days, months, years obviously so when a certain date is clicked on it is written to a field in english or whatever. Cheers.D.Rothe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On Jan 18, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 1/18/05 4:49 PM, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: This is a known limitation: the text engine can display up to 65,535 characters on a single line. The field can hold up to about 64k of characters, IIRC, but can display a line correctly if the line is less than about 32K pixels before the soft line break. This hits both limits. Actually, a field can hold 4 GB, but each line has to be 64K or less. Rats. I meant line. What I was trying to add is the pixel limit when there are no spaces. You can get some weird things displayed, but usually nothing. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Calendar Object
You're welcome. I use that stack quite a bit. Cheers, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx for the links Paul thats exactly what I am looking for, took a bit of rehashing the code to suit my stack and had a clash of image ID' but it's all sorted now, the 30 mins to rehash sure beats writing it from scratch! ;?) Cheers.Dwayne I use a stack by Shao Sean http://dark.unitz.ca/~shaosean/downloads/objcalendar112.zip http://dark.unitz.ca/%7Eshaosean/downloads/objcalendar112.zip - it works really well with some modifications. Cheers, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to call the windows system calendar or know of a calendar object to be used in a sub stack? Basically I am looking for a calendar you can select days, months, years obviously so when a certain date is clicked on it is written to a field in english or whatever. Cheers.D.Rothe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
I believe Rev has a problem displaying more than a certain number of characters on one line ie. with no returns...the characters are there, but they don't display properly. I don't know what the limit is, but clearly 14 :( I have an app that stores long series of numbers, delimited by commas, in custom properties. I do this because I have to do a lot of calculations using 'item n to n+n' of longSeriesOfNumbers... if I look at the custom properties in the inspector, they are displayed wrongly or not at all, but the numbers are all there, and my operations on them work correctly, so it is just a display issue, I think. This may matter or not in what you're doing... Cheers, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
Mark Smith wrote: I believe Rev has a problem displaying more than a certain number of characters on one line ie. with no returns...the characters are there, but they don't display properly. I don't know what the limit is, but clearly 14 :( I have an app that stores long series of numbers, delimited by commas, in custom properties. I do this because I have to do a lot of calculations using 'item n to n+n' of longSeriesOfNumbers... if I look at the custom properties in the inspector, they are displayed wrongly or not at all, but the numbers are all there, and my operations on them work correctly, so it is just a display issue, I think. It is. Variables and custom properties are not affected. The maximum number of chars that can be on any given line is 65,535, and the total field max is about 4Gb. Of course in most cases that's more than you'll ever need to display to the user. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Mark Smith wrote: I believe Rev has a problem displaying more than a certain number of characters on one line ie. with no returns...the characters are there, but they don't display properly. I don't know what the limit is, but clearly 14 :( I have an app that stores long series of numbers, delimited by commas, in custom properties. I do this because I have to do a lot of calculations using 'item n to n+n' of longSeriesOfNumbers... if I look at the custom properties in the inspector, they are displayed wrongly or not at all, but the numbers are all there, and my operations on them work correctly, so it is just a display issue, I think. This may matter or not in what you're doing... Thank you. My intent is to understand the situation so that if it occurs, I can notify the user that the data is indeed in the field but that they cannot view it. Then instruct them to select all, copy, and paste into a text editor to view the data. I'd like to not have to do that for all displayed data, just when the situation requires it. Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revMail fails on some Macs
I'm upgrading a stack used in an application by remote collaborators. When they finish work on some data, the stack uploads it to our server here and I've added an email notification feature which grabs info about the upload and then emails it to me by invoking the user's default email client, auto inserting my email address and subject and body. The user then has only to click send. A further confirmation uses revGoURL to load the data from our server into their browser (these are XML files) so they can also see immediately if the upload was complete. Now, testing here on my own mac OS X... it works fine, email is invoked and immediately revGoURL activates my browser... I sent the new stack out to test the new function to another Mac user with OSX also installed, but on his machine the script uploads the data, then skips through the revMail as if it was not even in the script and boots his browser and shows the file. i.e. the line revMail tRecipient,,tSubject,tBody fails and there is no error message and it does not cause any problem... it jus doesn't happen. What exactly does the Mac need to ensure that there is an email client automatically will be invoked by revMail? I can't find any preference in OS X for default mail app that requires setting. No more internet config and apple has this bizarre requirment to set the default browser from within Safari, which one has to boot to say, choose Firefox... but I don't see any option to set a default email app that the scripting extensions would use. and I also don't know exactly what to test for to determine with other missing parts there may be... possible the GURL even is not handled on his machine? But I though apple script and events would be auto loaded by default for anyone using OSX. I have yet to get a report from Windows users if this will work... Note, this stack is being driven by a splash screen standalone player and I did include the common library which would be required... and if revGoURL works, one assumes this is proof the common library is present. So, it must be something else. TIA Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revMail fails on some Macs
On Jan 18, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: What exactly does the Mac need to ensure that there is an email client automatically will be invoked by revMail? I can't find any preference in OS X for default mail app that requires setting. No more internet config and apple has this bizarre requirment to set the default browser from within Safari, which one has to boot to say, choose Firefox... but I don't see any option to set a default email app that the scripting extensions would use. and I also don't know exactly what to test for to determine with other missing parts there may be... possible the GURL even is not handled on his machine? But I though apple script and events would be auto loaded by default for anyone using OSX. There may be a similarly bizarre connection with OS X Mail. Check the preferences for it. There's a place there to set the default email reader. I know if affects which email program Safari uses, but beyond that, I can't say if that will help. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Smith wrote: I believe Rev has a problem displaying more than a certain number of characters on one line ie. with no returns...the characters are there, but they don't display properly. I don't know what the limit is, but clearly 14 :( I have an app that stores long series of numbers, delimited by commas, in custom properties. I do this because I have to do a lot of calculations using 'item n to n+n' of longSeriesOfNumbers... if I look at the custom properties in the inspector, they are displayed wrongly or not at all, but the numbers are all there, and my operations on them work correctly, so it is just a display issue, I think. It is. Variables and custom properties are not affected. The maximum number of chars that can be on any given line is 65,535, and the total field max is about 4Gb. thank you. I can watch for long lines and then put up an alert telling them that it's there, they just cannot see it. Also, these limits should be in the docs. The old Hypercard manual had a back section on limits and I reached some of them. I'd like to see limits stated in the run rev docs. Of course in most cases that's more than you'll ever need to display to the user. uh, no, I actually wanted to display the results of an SQL query and it had no spaces and was longer than that limit. Normally the results are viewable and the really long results get copied into a text document and formatted for viewing. But in this case, it looked like the results were blank and that was my assumption (something went wrong with my code?) until on a whim I copied and pasted into a text document and saw that it was all there. But, thank you very very much for an understanding of the limits. Now I can add an alert when the data is invisible. Kee ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (nothing to do with it really)
Klaus, sorry i assumed that Fabio had gone around the world, but maybe he was a north america only thing. He was a hunky male model with long blonde hair that was all over the place 10 years of so back. sort of a male super model and the butt of many jokes. even though our guide was very good looking with longer hair, most everything else he could never be mistaken for the model fabio... as mentioned google fabio. sorry everyone, pushed that one tooo far... Jeffrey Reynolds 6620 Michaels Dr Bethesda, MD 20817 301.469.8562 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry, just had to add one more to this thread... ... the other joke is this guy had very beautiful long black hair, but is a small chap at about 5'5'' and his name is Fabio, he couldn't understand why we we were laughing at his name... we did send him a Fabio calendar for xmas. ehmm, well my name is not Fabio and my hair is DEFINITIVELY shorter, but i don't understand this one either :-( Could you give me a hint, please? :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
kee nethery wrote: The maximum number of chars that can be on any given line is 65,535, and the total field max is about 4Gb. thank you. I can watch for long lines and then put up an alert telling them that it's there, they just cannot see it. Also, these limits should be in the docs. Agreed. I came across them in the old MC docs a while back, which are normally more anemic than the Rev docs. But this is what it took me to find them in Rev: 1. Open Documentation 2. Typed Li 3. Dismissed a dialog telling me that Li could not be found. 4. Managed to type an m before - 5. Dismissed a dialog telling me that Lim could not be found. 6. Squeezed in typing an i when - 7. Dismissed a dialog telling me Limi could not be found. 8. Typed the ts really fast, which brought up: Commands and Function Memory and Limits Reference No sooner could I ask What is this doing in 'Commands and Functions'? than I discovered that while the other limits are shown (number of objects in a group, length of object names, etc.), and it does mention the number of chars in a line, it doesn't mention that this also applies to using the sort command on a variable. Even with that minor ommission it's a good read, and if you're a quick typist you might be able to cut the number of steps to get there down to four or five. ;) PS: Is there a preference to turn off the Constantly try to search whatever's being typed in real-time option in favor of any more explicit option (Enter key, Search button) like one finds in nearly any other search box? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Characters not displaying in a field?
On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: kee nethery wrote: The maximum number of chars that can be on any given line is 65,535, and the total field max is about 4Gb. thank you. I can watch for long lines and then put up an alert telling them that it's there, they just cannot see it. Also, these limits should be in the docs. Agreed. I came across them in the old MC docs a while back, which are normally more anemic than the Rev docs. But this is what it took me to find them in Rev: This only shows the char limit per line. Not the pixel limit. Dar ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening custom files by Drag and Drop in standalone application
On 1/18/05 11:55 AM, Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Mon, 17 Jan 2005 Ken Ray wrote: When you launch an MC/Rev app, any command line information is sent to the application and is retrievable via *environment variables* numbered $0 on up. Hi Ken, I have read this useful Programming tip in your website, and TRY to use it in an standalone player to OPEN ONLY the custom documents of that application. But when i drag and drop a Rev or MC stack to a standalone i had created, IT OPENS... :-( Yes, and this may be a bug (I tested Windows) - you get the path to the stack you dropped in $1, but you don't get any messages to trap to prevent that stack from opening... I tried trapping preOpenStack and openStack, and it only triggers for the application, not the document stack that is opening. I think you should log this as a bug, unless someone has an answer for this... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
