Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Still, you will have those who are learning it for the first time (e.g., my heart surgeon previously mentioned, children, etc.) for whom a single buttoned mouse is preferrable. Also -- for how many of the 'average' users will right-clicking be well understood? While learnability is important, learning happens exactly once. From then on it's all about productivity for the rest of one's computing life. -Yup, which goes on to translate as if learning doesn't happen... hence the importance of the uni-button mouse. It is agreed that 2- and 3- and n-button mice are for advanced audiences' and their productivity enhancements... if they don't learn uni-button mice, well, ... you have Chipp's proposition. By providing a mouse that people's productivity can grow with, Apple may indeed be risking the learning curve for a subset of their market. But given Apple's dedication to learnability I have to trust their judgement on this. --I agree with this. It functions as a uni-button mouse but adapts for a multi-button mouse user. Very Apple. Besides, even if I disagreed with them, would they listen to me? --In singular, I don't know. In aggregate, yes (witness the furor over the 'candy' apple doing nothing in the menu bar in the OS X beta). Another issue I have with the right-clicking is that it sometimes seriously violates Schneiderman's articulation of the direct manipulation paradigm in that the user can sometimes right-click on nothing in the middle of nowhere. Where in a modern GUI is nowhere? Even the Desktop is a place, and has properties. --That's an abstraction, not a concrete thing. Right-clicking on _nothing_ violates the concept. The articulation is 'visible items of interest' in which nothing is not an item of interest. --And, in any case, the purpose (unless anyone can correct me; corrections clearly sought) is that right-clicking is for a short-cut. The problem is that on Window side, too often it is suggested as the ONLY route. --I have no problems with short-cuts. As long as more conventional solutions are provided. That way, both (or all) camps are provided for. Apple's new mouse a multi-button mouse in terms of functionality. Whether Apple succeeds in a cleaner design to provide that functionality, or instead confuses people by making the delineation between left and right unclear, remains to be seen. Sometimes they get it right (the iPod wheel) and sometimes not (the hockey puck iMac mouse). --I sincerely doubt that Apple can make left versus right-clicking any more confusing than it already is. What is important is that it remain a secondary access rather than a primary access to commands, info., etc. --Here's the gist of my argument: (1) You see something of interest; (2) You click on it; (3) Something happens. You (and/or others) would seem to suggest that it's better that: (1) You see something Or a void (2) You click on something Or the void (3) Something happens Or something else happens And, for the user, either what they want happens or they get confused. It is inarguable that, for expert users, anything exceeding 1 mouse button is 'expert' and hence more productive (even up to an 8-button chording device for court reporters). The question is that, where for x = 1 + n, what does n equal? For Windows (semi-expert) users, the answer is clearly n=1. But for unix users, it is n=2. For other expert users, it us n=7. Where is the line to be drawn? Clearly as n gets larger, so does the possibility for error/confusion. More simply put, how would the legion of Windows users feel about the imposition of a mouse button = 3 feel? My Windows students indicate tha N=1 (thus, x= 1+1) is the correct number of buttons. Less than that is lame, more than that is confusing. Unix students indicate that n should = 2 (thus, 1 +2 = 3) mouse buttons. Less restricts expert usage, more would be confusing. Hence my argument. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: right-click on Macs
I think it is option-click. At least, that's the way I've done it using a uni-button mouse (because, you can, of course, get a true right-click using a 3rd party mouse on a Mac should you so need). Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Charles Silverman wrote: Is there a way to get the right-click when Rev is running on Mac OS X machines to bring up Apple's Application wide contextual menu? It makes sense to let the user access these features... I've gotten used to the built-in dictionary feature, spell-checking and highlighting a word or phrase and right-clicking to go directly to google and would imagine that most Mac users are coming to expect these features in all applications. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one-key keyboard. Hardly any typing mistakes using that :-) The one you write on it with a pen? -- Revolutionario (not so much) With a Newton MP130, waiting for syncing between [Newton] Notes and my [Rev] Journal ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tabbed button colour, Win XP
I have a tabbed button in Rev 2.6 whose background color is set to dark grey. In XP with the theme set to 'windows classic' it appears as dark grey. With the theme set to 'Windows XP' the background of the button becomes off-white, and setting the background color of the button has no effect. I use this button effectively as the background for most of my card, and switch between cards using the tabs. Can someone suggest a way to force the colour to grey ? I could put a grey rectangle on top but that would still leave the tabs... thanks Martin Blackman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: open drawer bug 3026
Hello, I did report that bug (#2921) on 2005/06/22 and it is stated as fixed/ resolved. I got a message telling me it was fixed in build 114 that should have been released some times ago, but the latest build is still 108. Does somebody know if a new build is in the pipeline? Regards, ÉrIC Le 3 août 05 à 03:23, Scott Morrow a écrit : Using Rev 2.6 I noticed that when opening a stack as a drawer it does not slide open smoothly (as in Rev2.5.1) but simply snaps open. It does close with the standard drawer effect. I've submitted a BugZilla report, 3026, if anyone else would care to cast a vote. -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Judy, You're confusing how hard something is to learn, versus how hard it is to use day in and day out. It's proven highly modal systems are the easiest to learn (ATM machine), but you wouldn't want a bank teller to have to use one 8 hours a day! In fact, when the Mac first came out (I purchased the first one in Houston), it was unique in it's mostly non-modal approach, and NOT intuitive in the least to use. Of course, once one took the time to 'learn' the interface, productivity soared. -Chipp Judy Perry wrote: Every day there are people who are new to computers who are learning to use them. I once had a retired cardiac surgeon take the 'how to turn it on' class. It happened to be on the PC platform. He got so confused over the two buttons that he ended up dropping the class. Clearly, he was not a stupid man. And then there's children still learning their left from their right. And then there's the elderly, with perhaps diminishing fine motor control (this was one of several issues at play with respect to the surgeon). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More on SecondLife system requirements
After reading James/Cazzj's comments to the SERUG Google Group about Mac vs Windows for Second Life (SL, http://www.secondlife.com, where we plan to hold virtual meetings), I borrowed my dad's new 3.2 GHz HP laptop to see if it really was so much better. I regret to announce that it is. But some caveats: * I know that the RAM on both my Macs is insufficient for simulation gaming, which is what SL is. RAM and VRAM are probably the biggest trouble-makers on the block in this realm. * The HP laptop is much faster and cleaner than either of my Macs. One is a 1.5 GHz G4 laptop with 768 MB of RAM (which runs ok in most modes, but not as well as the HP). The other is an older G4 tower, 867 MHz Dual Processor, with only 512 MB of RAM. It is not as good as the laptop, of course, but it has a 19 CRT monitor that is infinitely more SL-friendly than the 12 laptop's screen. * The biggest trouble area is the Appearance editor, which is what brought down Jonathan's computer. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has a G5 with a lot of RAM and an advanced video card, to see what your experience with the SecondLife software is. A lifetime basic account is just US$9.95, and there's a 7-day free trial, so if you have such a system and a few moments to give it a whirl, please do let me (us) know what you think. Kat Cochrane a.k.a. Kat Lemieux in SecondLife ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SERUG group founded in SecondLife
To follow up on the message I just sent about using SecondLife as a virtual meeting place for SERUG (SouthEastern [US] Revolution User Group), I'd like to reiterate that this organization is open to any Revolution developers who are interested, and with some of our meetings taking place online instead of in a physical location, it's practical for anyone anywhere to join us. However, to use the SecondLife system, you do need broadband and a reasonably powerful computer. SecondLife is a serious simulation game that is ripe for exploitation as a business tool as well as for all those people who think games are for fun. Silly people! ;-) Accounts for SecondLife basic users cost a one-time fee of US$9.95, after a 7-day free trial. Premium accounts (which are required to buy land in SL) start at $9.95/mo or $72/yr and go up from there based on the amount of (virtual) land you own. The software is cross-platform (Mac/Win/*nix/etc.), but does require broadband as well as a lot of computer power. (See my previous message about that.) If you already belong to SecondLife or decide to try it, and would like to join the SERUG group there, please IM me your request in world. If you have any questions about it, or about the RL (Real Life) SERUG group that is getting organized now, feel free to contact me, or (after Aug. 19) Ralph Forehand. Ralph will be on vacation till then, so it's better to ask me if you want a quicker answer. Cheers, Katherine Kat Cochrane a.k.a. Kat Lemieux in SecondLife ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cross-Platform default btn Geometry
Something Richard said the other day, that Mac and Win display the OK and Cancel buttons differently. So it occured to me that there should be a handler that deals with this automatically so the buttons display correctly on either OS, preferably in a flexible way. This is what I have come up with. Not very elegant and a bit brute-force, so improvements welcome. Consider the gauntlet thrown! In a stack with three buttons called 'OK', 'Default' and 'Cancel' horizontally from left to right, add this to a 'TestMe' button... on mouseUp setOSbtnGeometry Cancel/D,OK,off,MacOS end mouseUp --| Cross platform button geometry --| This assumes that the default or main option should be on the right in win32 and on the --| left in macOS. --| This handler takes the names of two buttons, then sets their position and default state --| accordingly. It also provides for over-riding the OS for testing purposes. --| --| Syntax: --|setOSbtnGeometry Btn1Name[/D],Btn2Name[/D],on|off [,macOS|Win32] --| --| Param 1 and 2: --| The names of the two buttons involved. Use /D to define which is the default position --| Param 3: --| Define whether the default state should be on or off --| Param 4: --| Optional, to force platform over-ride for testing. Omit to use the current platform. --| --| Examples: --| setOSbtnGeometry Cancel/D,OK,on --| setOSbtnGeometry Cancel,OK/D,off --| setOSbtnGeometry Yes,No/D,on,macOS on setOSbtnGeometry pFirstBtnName, pSecondBtnName, pState, pOS if char -2 to -1 of pFirstBtnName is /D then delete char -2 to -1 of pFirstBtnName put pFirstBtnName into tDefault put pSecondBtnName into tOther else if char -2 to -1 of pSecondBtnName is /D then delete char -2 to -1 of pSecondBtnName end if put pSecondBtnName into tDefault put pFirstBtnName into tOther end if put the rect of btn pFirstBtnName into rect1 put the rect of btn pSecondBtnName into rect2 if pState is on then set the default of btn tDefault to TRUE else set the default of btn tDefault to FALSE set the default of btn tOther to FALSE if item 1 of rect1 item 1 of rect2 then put rect2 into leftSide; put rect1 into rightSide else put rect2 into rightSide; put rect1 into leftSide end if if pOS then put pOS into tPlatform else put the platform into tPlatform if tPlatform=MacOS then set the rect of btn tDefault to rightSide set the rect of btn tOther to leftSide else set the rect of btn tDefault to leftSide set the rect of btn tOther to rightSide end if end setOSbtnGeometry /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?
Sorry for the completely off topic nature of this...but Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? I have a Japanese issued iBook (English system). So before I order any DVDs from Amazon, I thought I'd better check. thanks tom ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: when can I set a substack's properties?
I recently found that if you tell an unopened substack to create a new group within itself, it will give that group an ID of 0. If you tell it to create more than one new group within itself, all of the groups will have an ID of 0. So, there must be at least some differences between open and unopen stacks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:53 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: when can I set a substack's properties? One forgotten yet exciting (?) detail: Phil Davis wrote: -- snip -- You can do all these same things to any unopened stack. But in the case of an unopened stack that's not already in memory, the first thing that happens when you touch it in any way is that is gets loaded into memory. This means you can preload stacks into memory before opening them by just referencing something about them. You can reference something about the unloaded stack that doesn't actually exist, like this: get the fakeProperty of stack bigImages Phil ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?
Thomas McCarthy wrote: Sorry for the completely off topic nature of this...but Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? I have a Japanese issued iBook (English system). So before I order any DVDs from Amazon, I thought I'd better check. Almost all DVD players (including those in computers) will allow you to play DVDs from any region. Unfortunately, playing a DVD from another region will change the player's region code. This code can only be changed 5 times before it locks and stays at that code. You can get the drive reset, but only if you send it into the manufacturer and have it reset. So if you are going to be ordering DVDs, stick to a region code and leave it there. :) More information about this can be attained by doing a google search for DVD Region Codes. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Photos for the Web with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: global problems
Upon further reflection about the situation in Rev (as opposed to languages that are really compiled, and execute from the start of the program each time a change is made), I take your point. In Pascal, the program/compiler must re-create each global each time the program is run. In Rev, the program never actually stops running (in some sense, even though it does change as the programmer edits the scripts and modifies the properties), so there is never a time when Rev can properly re-evaluate the existence of the globals. Removing all of the globals each time a script is edited would not work. See: I'm still having problems getting my mind around all of the implications of a Rev-like IDE... :) Jon Richard Gaskin wrote: Jon wrote: I agree: it is unfortunate that the original language designers used the term global to mean persistent global. Had they separated the concept of scope from the concept of variable duration/lifetime, the language would have been equally powerful while being easier to understand. What is a non-persistent global? In any language I've worked with, you declare a global and it stays in memory until you delete it or quit the program. I don't know of any language that deletes globals automatically based on whether the app closes or opens files from disk. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Pigs Fly
As someone who has not used a Mac in 12 years, and has never used any system ending in 'nix'... I have to say that right-clicking is completely ingrained in my thinking. If I want to add a shortcut to the desktop, I right-click on the desktop. If I want to open an explorer window, I right-click on the Start button. And this has translated to my programming. All of my software uses right-clicking all over the place. My spreadsheet objects use right-clicking on the row and column buttons to get row and column options, and uses left-click and drag for moving the rows and columns around. Other folks using my software have not complained about having to right-click - but then, they are all using it on Windows as well, and are undoubtedly used to right-clicking. This sounds funny, but I think I would find it much more difficult to create a convenient interface without using the right-click. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Perry Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:22 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly Still, you will have those who are learning it for the first time (e.g., my heart surgeon previously mentioned, children, etc.) for whom a single buttoned mouse is preferrable. Also -- for how many of the 'average' users will right-clicking be well understood? While learnability is important, learning happens exactly once. From then on it's all about productivity for the rest of one's computing life. -Yup, which goes on to translate as if learning doesn't happen... hence the importance of the uni-button mouse. It is agreed that 2- and 3- and n-button mice are for advanced audiences' and their productivity enhancements... if they don't learn uni-button mice, well, ... you have Chipp's proposition. By providing a mouse that people's productivity can grow with, Apple may indeed be risking the learning curve for a subset of their market. But given Apple's dedication to learnability I have to trust their judgement on this. --I agree with this. It functions as a uni-button mouse but adapts for a multi-button mouse user. Very Apple. Besides, even if I disagreed with them, would they listen to me? --In singular, I don't know. In aggregate, yes (witness the furor over the 'candy' apple doing nothing in the menu bar in the OS X beta). Another issue I have with the right-clicking is that it sometimes seriously violates Schneiderman's articulation of the direct manipulation paradigm in that the user can sometimes right-click on nothing in the middle of nowhere. Where in a modern GUI is nowhere? Even the Desktop is a place, and has properties. --That's an abstraction, not a concrete thing. Right-clicking on _nothing_ violates the concept. The articulation is 'visible items of interest' in which nothing is not an item of interest. --And, in any case, the purpose (unless anyone can correct me; corrections clearly sought) is that right-clicking is for a short-cut. The problem is that on Window side, too often it is suggested as the ONLY route. --I have no problems with short-cuts. As long as more conventional solutions are provided. That way, both (or all) camps are provided for. Apple's new mouse a multi-button mouse in terms of functionality. Whether Apple succeeds in a cleaner design to provide that functionality, or instead confuses people by making the delineation between left and right unclear, remains to be seen. Sometimes they get it right (the iPod wheel) and sometimes not (the hockey puck iMac mouse). --I sincerely doubt that Apple can make left versus right-clicking any more confusing than it already is. What is important is that it remain a secondary access rather than a primary access to commands, info., etc. --Here's the gist of my argument: (1) You see something of interest; (2) You click on it; (3) Something happens. You (and/or others) would seem to suggest that it's better that: (1) You see something Or a void (2) You click on something Or the void (3) Something happens Or something else happens And, for the user, either what they want happens or they get confused. It is inarguable that, for expert users, anything exceeding 1 mouse button is 'expert' and hence more productive (even up to an 8-button chording device for court reporters). The question is that, where for x = 1 + n, what does n equal? For Windows (semi-expert) users, the answer is clearly n=1. But for unix users, it is n=2. For other expert users, it us n=7. Where is the line to be drawn? Clearly as n gets larger, so does the possibility for error/confusion. More simply put, how would the legion of Windows users feel about the imposition of a mouse button = 3 feel? My Windows students indicate tha N=1 (thus, x= 1+1) is the correct number of buttons. Less than that is lame, more than that is confusing. Unix students indicate that n should = 2 (thus, 1 +2 = 3) mouse buttons. Less
ANN: Full text justification plug-in
S Message: 15 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ANN Full justification To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jim, This handler works great! :-) I noticed that you included two justify buttons. In the second button, this line seems to hang my development environment: put char tNum-10 to tNum of tOrig into tChars Why does this happen? Thanks a lot for sharing this handler! :-) al Al et al, I have finished the plug-in version. This should be much easier to use. Just select the field to be justified and click on the Justify the selected field button. It also stores the original text in a custom property of the field. (If you decide to change the field's width at some future point, the lines won't justify in the new field width. Best to restore the text and re-justify.) In the message box: go stack url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/JustifyField.rev; Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?
Thomas McCarthy wrote: Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? The answer is yes, but if you also want to play US zoned discs, you have to reset the DVD player. You can do this only a limited number of times (5) per machine. Yes, it's a problem, but if you can completely remove all the DVD player's components from your computer after using up all the changes (something I've never tried to do), it may be possible to restart the clock by reloading the player engine. There's probably some hidden files that only the superuser can delete, though. 'Nuff said. Cheers, Kat Cochrane a.k.a. Kat Lemieux in SecondLife, virtual meeting place of SERUG - South East Revolution User Group See http://rugusa.linguistix.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT iBook DVD can play internat'l movies?
It is my understanding that the region code is stored in the drive hardware/firmware, so reinstalling the driver won't help. Going to About This Mac and More Info should show you the region code for your DVD player and how many changes you have left. It's probably under the ATA section. At 09:59 AM 8/3/2005, you wrote: Thomas McCarthy wrote: Can my iBook's DVD play DVDs from any world zone? The answer is yes, but if you also want to play US zoned discs, you have to reset the DVD player. You can do this only a limited number of times (5) per machine. Yes, it's a problem, but if you can completely remove all the DVD player's components from your computer after using up all the changes (something I've never tried to do), it may be possible to restart the clock by reloading the player engine. There's probably some hidden files that only the superuser can delete, though. 'Nuff said. Cheers, Kat Cochrane a.k.a. Kat Lemieux in SecondLife, virtual meeting place of SERUG - South East Revolution User Group See http://rugusa.linguistix.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in
Le 03-août-05 à 16:37, Jim Hurley a écrit : Al et al, I have finished the plug-in version. This should be much easier to use. Just select the field to be justified and click on the Justify the selected field button. It also stores the original text in a custom property of the field. (If you decide to change the field's width at some future point, the lines won't justify in the new field width. Best to restore the text and re-justify.) In the message box: go stack url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ JustifyField.rev Jim Hi Jim Excellent but How can I save this stack in my plugIn folder ??? Thank you. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
I use both PC's and Mac's so I believe I have a balanced view. As far as I am concerned, right-clicking is an extra. Anything in a contextual menu must be also available under the normal menus. The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. You can happily ignore right-clicking and live without them (like ignoring keyboard shortcuts), but life is much easier with them IF they are well designed. My father started on his first computer (a Mac) aged 78 . After 2 years he still didn't use keyboard shortcuts. Then he got a PC. After only a couple of hours he decided he liked right-click contextual menus because [1] they are visual and [2] show him what's important at that point. He still doesn't use keyboard shortcuts on either machine! 2p /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbed button colour, Win XP
Maybe try: set the lookandfeel to Windows 95 I have used this successfully before with tabs. Josh On 8/3/05, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a tabbed button in Rev 2.6 whose background color is set to dark grey. In XP with the theme set to 'windows classic' it appears as dark grey. With the theme set to 'Windows XP' the background of the button becomes off-white, and setting the background color of the button has no effect. I use this button effectively as the background for most of my card, and switch between cards using the tabs. Can someone suggest a way to force the colour to grey ? I could put a grey rectangle on top but that would still leave the tabs... thanks Martin Blackman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Inch by inch, life is a cinch. Yard by yard, life is very hard. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Ah, yes, the famous VIECAWP -- Vertically Integrated Easy-Correcting Analog Word Processor. AKA pencil. On Aug 3, 2005, at 12:16 AM, Dom wrote: Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one-key keyboard. Hardly any typing mistakes using that :-) The one you write on it with a pen? -- Revolutionario (not so much) With a Newton MP130, waiting for syncing between [Newton] Notes and my [Rev] Journal ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Decompile Windows RR application
Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just parts of it) or do I just start all over again? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: numToChar(28) in list field
Scott Morrow wrote: I have a list field where the items on each line are delimited with numToChar(28). This works fine when I edit the content of the list field using a script. However, when I edit it using an object inspector window the item delimiters all change to numToChar(215). This is easy enough to work around but I'm curious about what the heck is going on. There is probably a good reason but I can't think of it. This is just a guess, but maybe it has something to do with how the inspector translates all field content to html. Is 215 the html substitution for 28? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to print landscape
Hello How to set to print the cd in landscape? I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
A number of times I have been called on to help novice computer users with problems on their PCs. When I ask them to right click on something, they invariable had never used the right mouse button. From then on, every time I ask them to click on something, they ask right or left button? There is a lot to be said for simplicity. Apple did a lot of user testing to determine a one-button mouse is less confusing, but as Richard points out, computer novices are becoming more and more extinct... At 07:17 PM 8/2/2005, you wrote: Judy Perry wrote: Whew! I'm feeling better already. I'm in agreement with Raskin on the uni-button mouse being preferrable for error-reduction. Three factors come into play, with error-reduction being one of them. The other is productivity, and a third being learnability. I have no doubt Raskin got it right with error-reduction, and of course a single-button mouse will score higher on learnability by virtue of having less to learn. But the question manufacturers face in the 21st century is: Does our audience today have enough experience with mice to use a multi-button mouse more productively than a single-button mouse? Apple seems to have answered that question well. The single-button mouse was revolutionary for adoption of modern GUIs -- thank you Mr. Engelbart. But the majority of today's computer purchasers have previous experience with computing, are quite comfortable with mice, and can take advantage of the productivity gains of multi-button mice with far less trouble than yesterday's newbies. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tech support story of the woman who bought her first computer, brought it home, and called in because she couldn't get it to do anything. She said she kept pressing on the foot pedal (like a sowing machine), but nothing would happen... At 10:06 PM 8/2/2005, you wrote: Chipp, I use two-button mice when I teach on the PC platform. I've played around with 3-button mice a bit. I have a 4-button programmable Kensington trackball (and a two-button Stingray trackball that offers true right-clickability). In addition to reading and agreeing with Raskin (although I think he was a bit of a nutter on the whole modality issue), my observations are partly based on nearly a decade of teaching new computer users how to use a computer. And it's definitely been a problem. I'm not certain I understand your argument about not using a computer reducing errors. Of course that's true. But that's not the issue. It's which is easier to learn? A one-button mouse or a two button mouse or a three button mouse... or an n-button mouse? Englebert, of course, ultimately ended up preferring something else altogether to a uni-button mouse. I think it was a foot-based control. I once had an English teacher stricken by polio in his youth who steered his car using a foot-based device... Judy On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Chipp Walters wrote: Judy, Good duck and cover ;-) Never using a computer in the first place reduces errors to nill...does that make it preferrable? Just wondering, how much experience do you have with multi-button mice? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed functionality. Click a two button mouse with your index finger only, and its a one-button mouse. Nothing could be simpler. Don't use the scroll wheel, same thing... one button functionality without a scroll. If you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to simplify your experience by using your index finger to click, if that's what you need to do. If you don't want scrolling and contextual menus, just use your index finger. (JUYIF!) I just don't get it. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Or the one about the woman whose cupholder on her computer was broken?? :-D Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Peter T. Evensen wrote: This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tech support story of the woman who bought her first computer, brought it home, and called in because she couldn't get it to do anything. She said she kept pressing on the foot pedal (like a sowing machine), but nothing would happen... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Construyendo una especie de PowerPoint
Hola Alejandro, Estuvimos hablando hace tiempo cuando estaba evaluando Revolution y ahora ya tengo la versión Enterprise. Voy a tratar de desarrollar algo parecido a un powerpoint, mucho más sencillo, pero con la misma filosofía. Quiero proporcionar a mis clientes una aplicación con la que puedan construir pantallas y dentro de cada pantalla, ubicar cuadros con distintos tipos de información en ellos (textos, animaciones, películas quickt time, etc.). En una primera fase la aplicación puede funcionar sin conexión a MySQL, pero en un desarrollo inmediatamente siguiente, estaría subiendo la información a MySQL, para trabajo remoto y compartido. ¿Tienes ganas y quieres participar en este proyecto?, por supuesto, los costes de desarrollo que tengas yo los pagaría. ¿Puedes indicarme tus posibilidades?. Saludos, ___ Rufino Sarabia RS Asociados 629 444 710; fax 902 120 880; [EMAIL PROTECTED] correo alternativo y envío de ficheros a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Facilitamos el desarrollo científico-técnico y financiero de personas, sociedades y congresos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Decompile Windows RR application
If you didn't encrypt it or remove the source code then you should be able to get it back. More difficult if you did those things. Bill On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote: Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just parts of it) or do I just start all over again? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
What really drives me crazy is when a left handed person customizes their mouse and switches the buttons. The left button becomes the contextual button and the right button is for selecting. Since it is all done in software there are no hints that the mouse is different other than it is almost always left of the keyboard. Bill On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: A number of times I have been called on to help novice computer users with problems on their PCs. When I ask them to right click on something, they invariable had never used the right mouse button. From then on, every time I ask them to click on something, they ask right or left button? There is a lot to be said for simplicity. Apple did a lot of user testing to determine a one- button mouse is less confusing, but as Richard points out, computer novices are becoming more and more extinct... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Decompile Windows RR application
Does the compiled program run any separate rev stacks? If so, you could replace that stack with a stack that contains a script that clones the stack that is contained within the executable file. Or maybe... Don't know if this would work, but just maybe... You could create a stack that clones the stack contained within the exe file... and save that stack with some unused extension, like '.qzq' Then, set the file association in windows so that all .qzq files are run with your executable file. Then double click on the .qzq file to run it. This would force the .exe file to startup, and open your .qzq stack at the same time. If your .qzq stack has an openstack handler like this: On openstack Clone stack myStack... Save stack myClonedStack End openstack I never use clone stack, so I don't know the precise wording on using it - but I bet this approach could work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Vlahos Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:08 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Decompile Windows RR application If you didn't encrypt it or remove the source code then you should be able to get it back. More difficult if you did those things. Bill On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote: Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just parts of it) or do I just start all over again? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Yup, Or when, in a teaching situation, some little gremlin geek-in-training does likewise with scattered mice in the lab and you're trying to teach computer novices... Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Bill Vlahos wrote: What really drives me crazy is when a left handed person customizes their mouse and switches the buttons. The left button becomes the contextual button and the right button is for selecting. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to print landscape
On Aug 3, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote: Hello How to set to print the cd in landscape? I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? Take a look at the printRotated property in the dicitonary: set the printRotated to true print this card Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
I heard of one company that removes all the CD drives to eliminate this problem At 12:03 PM 8/3/2005, you wrote: Or the one about the woman whose cupholder on her computer was broken?? :-D Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Peter T. Evensen wrote: This reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tech support story of the woman who bought her first computer, brought it home, and called in because she couldn't get it to do anything. She said she kept pressing on the foot pedal (like a sowing machine), but nothing would happen... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Pigs Fly
Well... I think maybe the problem arises with inconsiderate programmers (I am referring to myself here, none of you guys) who create functionalities that can only be accessed by right-clicking. This leaves one-button mouse users out in the cold. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Swindell Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:02 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed functionality. Click a two button mouse with your index finger only, and its a one-button mouse. Nothing could be simpler. Don't use the scroll wheel, same thing... one button functionality without a scroll. If you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to simplify your experience by using your index finger to click, if that's what you need to do. If you don't want scrolling and contextual menus, just use your index finger. (JUYIF!) I just don't get it. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: numToChar(28) in list field
isotomac() does this. Are you using isotomac() at all? Or Maybe rev is doing so behind the scenes for some reason ? Perhaps you moved the stack across platforms ? ( isotomac() and mactoiso() should never be used on texts containing certain CO control chars (ie ascii 32) as many of them will be remapped. Only use these functions on genuine human-readable data strings. ) Martin J. Landman Gay wrote: Scott Morrow wrote: I have a list field where the items on each line are delimited with numToChar(28). This works fine when I edit the content of the list field using a script. However, when I edit it using an object inspector window the item delimiters all change to numToChar(215). This is easy enough to work around but I'm curious about what the heck is going on. There is probably a good reason but I can't think of it. This is just a guess, but maybe it has something to do with how the inspector translates all field content to html. Is 215 the html substitution for 28? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
recursion limits
I know recursion has been discussed in the past, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever run into any limits (i.e. memory problems) with recursion in Rev. I am working on a little backup utility for my own use, and I'm wondering what would happen if I decided to back up my entire hard drive? Would Rev choke on that? I realize it could potentially take hours. Would I start getting out of memory errors? The utility uses a directory walking function to create a list of all sub folders and files to be backed up. Anyone have some detailed results with this type of thing? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one button mouse you just control-click to get the same result. So there is usually no real need to duplicate the functionality. Still it can be a pain when writing the documentation. Martin Baxter Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Well... I think maybe the problem arises with inconsiderate programmers (I am referring to myself here, none of you guys) who create functionalities that can only be accessed by right-clicking. This leaves one-button mouse users out in the cold. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Swindell Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:02 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed functionality. Click a two button mouse with your index finger only, and its a one-button mouse. Nothing could be simpler. Don't use the scroll wheel, same thing... one button functionality without a scroll. If you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to simplify your experience by using your index finger to click, if that's what you need to do. If you don't want scrolling and contextual menus, just use your index finger. (JUYIF!) I just don't get it. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Pigs Fly
Ah, good point - and by playing around I see that the little key with the windows symbol allows for the same thing on a PC. Only, when that key is released it brings up the start menu - so I should see if I can block that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:00 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one button mouse you just control-click to get the same result. So there is usually no real need to duplicate the functionality. Still it can be a pain when writing the documentation. Martin Baxter Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Well... I think maybe the problem arises with inconsiderate programmers (I am referring to myself here, none of you guys) who create functionalities that can only be accessed by right-clicking. This leaves one-button mouse users out in the cold. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Swindell Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:02 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed functionality. Click a two button mouse with your index finger only, and its a one-button mouse. Nothing could be simpler. Don't use the scroll wheel, same thing... one button functionality without a scroll. If you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to simplify your experience by using your index finger to click, if that's what you need to do. If you don't want scrolling and contextual menus, just use your index finger. (JUYIF!) I just don't get it. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Martin Baxter wrote: It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one button mouse you just control-click to get the same result. So there is usually no real need to duplicate the functionality. Still it can be a pain when writing the documentation. What's even more of a pain is that Ctrl-click is a common usage on Windows (add/subtract single item to/from selection), so the naive Windows programmer (that's me) designs this into his apps. And his Mac users have no way to access this function :-( I guess one approach is to use Shift-click instead - but that means something different on Windows (extend existing selection up to this clicked item), darn it !! About once a day I curse this mis-feature of Rev's IDE on Windows. (Not that I have a solution - but it still gets a curse :-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 02/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Pigs Fly
The ctrl key on windows is not the same key as on mac... Remember, to check if the ctrl key is down, on windows, you use this statement: If the commandKey is down... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Tweedly Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:10 PM To: Brad Allen; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly Martin Baxter wrote: It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one button mouse you just control-click to get the same result. So there is usually no real need to duplicate the functionality. Still it can be a pain when writing the documentation. What's even more of a pain is that Ctrl-click is a common usage on Windows (add/subtract single item to/from selection), so the naive Windows programmer (that's me) designs this into his apps. And his Mac users have no way to access this function :-( I guess one approach is to use Shift-click instead - but that means something different on Windows (extend existing selection up to this clicked item), darn it !! About once a day I curse this mis-feature of Rev's IDE on Windows. (Not that I have a solution - but it still gets a curse :-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 02/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Pigs Fly
Hmmm It seems that trying to trap either rawkeyup or rawkeydown still does not prevent the start menu from being displayed when one releases the key with the little windows symbol on it. If there is no way to block it, then PC users with a single mousebutton would find it very annoying to do the pc equivalent of ctrl-clicking. Then again, maybe that would serve as an incentive for them to go and buy a better mouse. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynch, Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: RE: [OT] Pigs Fly Ah, good point - and by playing around I see that the little key with the windows symbol allows for the same thing on a PC. Only, when that key is released it brings up the start menu - so I should see if I can block that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:00 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly It's worth remembering that since system 8, Mac single-button mouse users can control-click to get the equivalent of a right mouse-button click. Revolution handles this fine, treating both actions as a mouse button 3 event. If you use a 2 button mouse on a mac you can right-click. With a one button mouse you just control-click to get the same result. So there is usually no real need to duplicate the functionality. Still it can be a pain when writing the documentation. Martin Baxter Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Well... I think maybe the problem arises with inconsiderate programmers (I am referring to myself here, none of you guys) who create functionalities that can only be accessed by right-clicking. This leaves one-button mouse users out in the cold. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Swindell Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:02 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: [OT] Pigs Fly On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The contextual right-click simply throws up immediate access to a choice selection. No big deal. Exactly. The whole how-many-buttons argument is dizzying to me. A two button mouse has ADDED functionality, not supplanted or changed functionality. Click a two button mouse with your index finger only, and its a one-button mouse. Nothing could be simpler. Don't use the scroll wheel, same thing... one button functionality without a scroll. If you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to simplify your experience by using your index finger to click, if that's what you need to do. If you don't want scrolling and contextual menus, just use your index finger. (JUYIF!) I just don't get it. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in
--- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:41:44 +0200 From: Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 03-aot-05 ý 16:37, Jim Hurley a Ècrit : Al et al, I have finished the plug-in version. This should be much easier to use. Just select the field to be justified and click on the Justify the selected field button. It also stores the original text in a custom property of the field. (If you decide to change the field's width at some future point, the lines won't justify in the new field width. Best to restore the text and re-justify.) In the message box: go stack url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ JustifyField.rev Jim Hi Jim Excellent but How can I save this stack in my plugIn folder ??? Thank you. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yves, That's easy. First save the file to your drive. Then drag the file to the Plug-in folder inside the folder with your current version of Run Rev. From this point on it will appear among your plug-ins under the Development menu when you start up. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: recursion limits
Hi, In about recursive tasks, the send message in x seconds can efficiently be replaced by an on idle message if the soft has to work for days, weeks or months. Because the idle message is only send when no one thread is running, it's an helpfull way to avoid mrmory troubles. I used this design years ago under Hypercard 2.35 and 2.41 with very good results. Le 3 août 05 à 19:59, Chris Sheffield a écrit : I know recursion has been discussed in the past, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever run into any limits (i.e. memory problems) with recursion in Rev. I am working on a little backup utility for my own use, and I'm wondering what would happen if I decided to back up my entire hard drive? Would Rev choke on that? I realize it could potentially take hours. Would I start getting out of memory errors? The utility uses a directory walking function to create a list of all sub folders and files to be backed up. Anyone have some detailed results with this type of thing? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours skype : psahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
a peeve regarding saving scripts
If I click on the apply changes button when I'm ready to save a script then if the script won't compile because it contains an error then Answer It is so irritating because I have to drag the script window/ down and hunt for the error window that lies somewhere behind it/ so I can find out what I did wrong and possibly identify the/ offending line with Yer so right, dude! end if end if Wouldn't it be more user friendly for Rev to give me a different dialog box at these times? The different dialog box would, among other things, give me access to the error window, or the information in it, with a simple mouseclick on a button in the dialog box. Maybe it would provide another button that would identify the offending line, if it could be identified. Of course, that dialog box would also give me the usual options of Don't Apply and Cancel and such. Just a thought. Cheers, Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Pigs Fly
Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, yes, the famous VIECAWP -- Vertically Integrated Easy-Correcting Analog Word Processor. AKA pencil. I didn't knew this one ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in
That's easy. First save the file to your drive. Then drag the file to the Plug-in folder inside the folder with your current version of Run Rev. From this point on it will appear among your plug-ins under the Development menu when you start up. Jim Hi Jim that's my problem, I cannot save, the save menuItem is dimmed ! Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in
On 8/3/05, Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's easy. First save the file to your drive. Then drag the file to the Plug-in folder inside the folder with your current version of Run Rev. From this point on it will appear among your plug-ins under the Development menu when you start up. Jim Hi Jim that's my problem, I cannot save, the save menuItem is dimmed ! Yves, You can't save it because it's currently a palette. What I did is type this command into the message box: toplevel stack justifyTextPlugin This turns it back into a stack. Now you can save it normally. HTH. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: recursion limits
Thanks, Pierre, but I don't think that's quite what I'm after. My backup program won't be something that will run consistently for weeks at a time. I'm talking about recursion as in calling the same handler/function from within itself. I'm guessing there could be issues with this if the folder to back up has a large directory structure, as in many sub folders and files. On Aug 3, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hi, In about recursive tasks, the send message in x seconds can efficiently be replaced by an on idle message if the soft has to work for days, weeks or months. Because the idle message is only send when no one thread is running, it's an helpfull way to avoid mrmory troubles. I used this design years ago under Hypercard 2.35 and 2.41 with very good results. Le 3 août 05 à 19:59, Chris Sheffield a écrit : I know recursion has been discussed in the past, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever run into any limits (i.e. memory problems) with recursion in Rev. I am working on a little backup utility for my own use, and I'm wondering what would happen if I decided to back up my entire hard drive? Would Rev choke on that? I realize it could potentially take hours. Would I start getting out of memory errors? The utility uses a directory walking function to create a list of all sub folders and files to be backed up. Anyone have some detailed results with this type of thing? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours skype : psahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Decompile Windows RR application
Ton, This was on the list some time ago, can't remember who, I think it was Monte. I've used this myself a couple of times. on mouseUp answer file Standalone if it is cancel then exit to top put url (binfile:it) into tStack repeat forever -- there's more than one stackfile in there which isinteresting ;-) put offset(#!/bin/sh,char 10 to -1 of tStack) into tOff if tOff = 0 then exit repeat put char tOff+9 to -1 of tStack into tStack end repeat ask file Stack if it is cancel then exit to top set the fileType to RevoRSTK put tStack into url (binfile:it) answer conversion finished with OK end mouseUp When finished rename the stack with a rev extension. Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ton Kuypers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:29 AM Subject: Decompile Windows RR application Hi gang, I've had a disk-crash a couple of months ago and lost almost all files on that disk. Among the lost files is also the RR source of a program I've created. The only thing I have is the windows exe file. Is there a way to decompile this back to a working RR project (or even just parts of it) or do I just start all over again? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 2/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to print image in the field
Hello, I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? I used revPrintField but it did not work. revPrintField only prints text in the field. Thank you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: recursion limits
Chris, you might find a thread on this board in the last year about Directory Walker scripts interesting -- several folks doing what you describe: traversing an entire volume... At 3:02 PM -0600 8/3/05, Chris Sheffield wrote: Thanks, Pierre, but I don't think that's quite what I'm after. My backup program won't be something that will run consistently for weeks at a time. I'm talking about recursion as in calling the same handler/function from within itself. I'm guessing there could be issues with this if the folder to back up has a large directory structure, as in many sub folders and files. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to print image in the field
On Aug 3, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote: Hello, I have an image. I grouped this image and set a vertical scroll bar. How to print this image? Could anyone know please help? I used revPrintField but it did not work. revPrintField only prints text in the field. You have a few options. If what you want to print is on the card you can just print the card with: print this card If there are other things on the card that you do not want to show up on the printout, then you can make another stack and copy the controls to be printed onto the new blank stack. Then print the card from the new stack. You can then delete this new stack when you are done. The whole thing can be done without the user seeing any of these actions. Let me know if you need more details. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Drag Drop of lines within fields
I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone please point me in the right direction or to an example script? Many thanks in advance. Warm regards, Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag Drop of lines within fields
Recently, Ton Kuypers wrote: I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone please point me in the right direction or to an example script? This might work for you (in your message box): go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag Drop of lines within fields
On 8/3/05, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Ton Kuypers wrote: I seem to recall that someone created a very nice example of drag drop of lines in listfields, but I cans seem to find it anymore... I just need to rearrange lines in a field by drag drop... Could anyone please point me in the right direction or to an example script? Scott's solution is very elegant. Wilhelm Sanke also came up with a fairly simple solution that I find I use frequently for this purpose. His script is below. on mouseDown put word 2 of the clickLine into cl set the textstyle of line cl of me to bold put item 2 of the mouseLoc into starty put the effective textHeight of me into th repeat while the mouse is down if item 2 of the mouseLoc - starty (th/2) then lock screen put cr line cl of me after line cl + 1 of me delete line cl of me add 1 to cl set the textstyle of line cl of me to bold add th to starty unlock screen else if starty - item 2 of the mouseLoc (th/2) then lock screen put line cl of me cr before line cl - 1 of me delete line cl + 1 of me subtract 1 from cl set the textstyle of line cl of me to bold subtract th from starty unlock screen end if end repeat set the textstyle of line cl of me to plain end mouseDown -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: recursion limits
Hi Chris, I've had apps quit due to recursion, but it's been a while ago. Unless there's a compelling reason to use true (nested) recursion, I always avoid it. You can accomplish the same effect by scheduling the next iteration of a handler from within itself in 0 seconds. It just means you can't have nested iterations of a handler, so you have to design your logic to accommodate that fact. So instead of this: on runMe -- do stuff runMe end runMe You have this: on runMe -- do stuff send runMe to me in zero seconds end runMe Side benefit: Because your processing isn't nested but effectively has idle time between handler runs, you can interrupt it with UI activity. That can't be said of nested iterative execution. HTH - Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I know recursion has been discussed in the past, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever run into any limits (i.e. memory problems) with recursion in Rev. I am working on a little backup utility for my own use, and I'm wondering what would happen if I decided to back up my entire hard drive? Would Rev choke on that? I realize it could potentially take hours. Would I start getting out of memory errors? The utility uses a directory walking function to create a list of all sub folders and files to be backed up. Anyone have some detailed results with this type of thing? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: a peeve regarding saving scripts
Can't you just move it to one corner and it will stay there/reappear there from then on? I am on a Mac OSX with 2.5.1 Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/3/05 12:52 PM, Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I click on the apply changes button when I'm ready to save a script then if the script won't compile because it contains an error then Answer It is so irritating because I have to drag the script window/ down and hunt for the error window that lies somewhere behind it/ so I can find out what I did wrong and possibly identify the/ offending line with Yer so right, dude! end if end if Wouldn't it be more user friendly for Rev to give me a different dialog box at these times? The different dialog box would, among other things, give me access to the error window, or the information in it, with a simple mouseclick on a button in the dialog box. Maybe it would provide another button that would identify the offending line, if it could be identified. Of course, that dialog box would also give me the usual options of Don't Apply and Cancel and such. Just a thought. Cheers, Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: a peeve regarding saving scripts
Tim- Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 12:52:39 PM, you wrote: It's been Bugzilla'd and already fixed for the next release. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Full text justification plug-in
Yves- Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 1:44:41 PM, you wrote: that's my problem, I cannot save, the save menuItem is dimmed ! In the messagebox, type set the style of stack JustifyTextPlugin to normal then save it in your plugins folder. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: Datastructures Article.
Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies, code and all the bells and whistles. There's a stack available with all the code and in the end we build a RPN calculator. Hope everyone likes it. http://www.andregarzia.com/articles/csdemo1 Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there
I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at \\wsip-24-234-124-99.lv.lv.cox.net\shareName but while using WinXP, network wizard immediately complains about this address... Alternately, using \\24.234.124.99\shareName results in a timeout, the folder you entered does not seem to be valid. Try another I can get to this volume by IEftp://24.234.124.99/ , then login, password, and move files + create folders The goal is to be able to mount the Mac folder on the XP desktop. How can I do the share? This has been rather confusing with little info out there to help me, but lots of mis-direction. Thanks in advance. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.
Beautiful work, Andre. I've bookmarked it. Thanks. sqb Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies, code and all the bells and whistles. There's a stack available with all the code and in the end we build a RPN calculator. Hope everyone likes it. http://www.andregarzia.com/articles/csdemo1 Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:00:14 -0400 From: subzero569 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tabbed button colour, Win XP To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe try: set the lookandfeel to Windows 95 I have used this successfully before with tabs. Josh On 8/3/05, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a tabbed button in Rev 2.6 whose background color is set to dark grey. In XP with the theme set to 'windows classic' it appears as dark grey. With the theme set to 'Windows XP' the background of the button becomes off-white, and setting the background color of the button has no effect. I use this button effectively as the background for most of my card, and switch between cards using the tabs. Can someone suggest a way to force the colour to grey ? I could put a grey rectangle on top but that would still leave the tabs... thanks Martin Blackman Thanks Josh, that does the trick! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.
On 8/3/05 8:19 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies, code and all the bells and whistles. There's a stack available with all the code and in the end we build a RPN calculator. Hope everyone likes it. http://www.andregarzia.com/articles/csdemo1 Awesome! Great work, Andre! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there
I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at \\wsip-24-234-124-99.lv.lv.cox.net\shareName but while using WinXP, network wizard immediately complains about this address... Alternately, using \\24.234.124.99\shareName results in a timeout, the folder you entered does not seem to be valid. Try another shareName has to be the name of the user folder you want to connect to and you have to login in using that user's name password. The way I do it is in the Network places, I go to Make new network connection. Windows looks for any available share points and then gives up and allows me to configure directly. You then get to a field where you can enter the address - forget browsing for it. Click in the link below the field to get some examples, so that you can make sure you get the correct back-slashes or forward-slashes. Enter the name as given to you by the OS X System Prefs, but making sure it is in the correct format, and see if that works. I don't have access to a Windows machine at the moment, so some of the terminology may be wrong, but that's the idea. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mystery about file share on Mac OSX to Win client out there
Jim Ault wrote: I am running the following: Mac G5, OSX 10.3.9 with a static IP on Cox Cable system in Las Vegas, NV static IP24.234.124.99 (.99 is not the correct ending) After setting Windows Sharing ON the Apple dialog box says Windows users can access your computer at \\wsip-24-234-124-99.lv.lv.cox.net\shareName but while using WinXP, network wizard immediately complains about this address... Alternately, using \\24.234.124.99\shareName results in a timeout, the folder you entered does not seem to be valid. Try another I can get to this volume by IEftp://24.234.124.99/ , then login, password, and move files + create folders The goal is to be able to mount the Mac folder on the XP desktop. How can I do the share? This has been rather confusing with little info out there to help me, but lots of mis-direction. Jim - some guesswork here . (I touched a Mac a few years ago :-) The static IP (24.234.124.xx) is presumably the address allocated to you by your ISP. Are the Windows machines on the same network segment ? Or are they on an internal network ? (i.e. does the Mac connect to cable, and the other machines reside behind it on an internal network). If they are on an internal network, you'd need to use the internal-side IP address on your Mac to do the share. You won't be able to do file-sharing over the public net (firewalls), but you will be able to ftp (which would explain why one works, not the other). If that isn't clear - or doesn't help - give us a network picture (Win machine addresses, etc.) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 02/08/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Single Point Property Creation/Assignment
Hi gang, I'm creating a central management system for settings using user properties. I want to use one central routine to access the preferences stack. To do that, I am working with a handler that creates and sets a custom property INSIDE a custom property set - all set at once. I got the below code to work. My question is -- is the use of 'do' the only or best way to accomplish the use of variables for assigning property names and data? Or am I missing the obvious? Would SetProp be better for this? any suggestions welcome... thanks on test -- beep 5 put cats into pPropSet put kadiska INTO pProp put kitten into pData put returnTheDefaultPrefsFileName() into pPath dataToProp pPropSet,pProp,pData,pPath end test on dataToProp pPropSet,pProp,pData,pPath if pPath is empty then put returnTheDefaultPrefsFileName() into pPath end if do set the pPropSet [ quote pProp quote ] of stack quote pPath quoteto pData end dataToProp function returnTheDefaultPrefsFileName put specialFolderPath(Preferences) into sfp put / preference.rev after sfp return sfp end returnTheDefaultPrefsFileName ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Datastructures Article.
Cool, Andre! I can't wait to read it!! Judy On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, continuing the job of presenting the community with cool articles, I just build an article entitled: CS Demo #1: Lists and its uses. where I delve on the topic of lists, queues, stacks. The article is full of shots, movies, code and all the bells and whistles. There's a stack available with all the code and in the end we build a RPN calculator. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Single Point Property Creation/Assignment
On 8/3/05 11:02 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I'm creating a central management system for settings using user properties. I want to use one central routine to access the preferences stack. To do that, I am working with a handler that creates and sets a custom property INSIDE a custom property set - all set at once. I got the below code to work. My question is -- is the use of 'do' the only or best way to accomplish the use of variables for assigning property names and data? Or am I missing the obvious? Well, as long as the variable holds a value, you don't need to use do for the *variable* part of it, i.e. this: put Test into tProp set the uPropSet[tProp] of this stack to Hello is the same as: put Test into tProp do set the uPropSet[ quote tProp quote ] of this stack to quote Hello quote However you can't get away with it for property sets or values... so the only way to do this is with do, as you've put in your email. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Single Point Property Creation/Assignment
On Aug 3, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Well, as long as the variable holds a value, you don't need to use do for the *variable* part of it, i.e. this: put Test into tProp set the uPropSet[tProp] of this stack to Hello is the same as: put Test into tProp do set the uPropSet[ quote tProp quote ] of this stack to quote Hello quote However you can't get away with it for property sets or values... so the only way to do this is with do, as you've put in your email. Though you can't do something like this: put uSet into tSet put uProp into tProp set the tSet[tProp] of me to test You can do this: set the customPropertySet of me to tSet set the tProp of me to test -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
