CD Audio Stack Request
Hi folks, I'm interested to know if anyone has done (or knows about) a Revolution stack that allows one to control an audio CD (with commands like CDPlay, CDStop, CDPause, etc.) along the lines of the Voyager CD Audio HyperCard stack (if you are familiar with that). Thanks for any help, Regards Noel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Video compression using RunRev
Hello All, Is there a way within Revolution to to save and re-compress a QT video from the player window of my app? Thanks in advance for your help. Glen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CD Audio Stack Request
Hi Noel, Hi folks, I'm interested to know if anyone has done (or knows about) a Revolution stack that allows one to control an audio CD (with commands like CDPlay, CDStop, CDPause, etc.) along the lines of the Voyager CD Audio HyperCard stack (if you are familiar with that). i am sure that can be done with some AppleScripts, but I have no idea how :-) But with version 7 (maybe 6 already) of QuickTime you can set the filename of a player object to any track of an audio CD! Maybe that will help? Thanks for any help, Regards Noel Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hacking the revMenuBar menu for mouseless control ?
This is really a reposting of the end of a longer message I posted yesterday: Yesterday opened up the menu editor and added cmd-6, cmd-8 and cmd-7 to the revMenuBar menu under Objects so that I can call Card Script, Object Properties and Card Properties respectively from my Belkin Nostromo. 1. What is not clear to me is whether one can edit menus so that they will respond with any of those Function buttons at the top of the keyboard, or with multiple key-downs such as cmd-alt-something. I am trying to go as mouseless as possible. RSI and tendo-vaginitis are an ongoing problem for me - and the mouse is the main criminal. 2. as the revMenuBar is a central part of the RR IDE, while I can hack-away to my heart's content with my own copy of Dreamcard -presumably I cannot then make the reslut publically available for folk to import into their DC/RRs? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... (carefully selecting the polite form of the answer) Why yes, there is a market for it. As an unfunded private individual developing mostly tutorial stacks, I can afford DC and certainly not any other form of RR. The no-standalones limitation isn't much of an inconvenience for distribution, especially with StackRunner. No DC, I'm gone. I don't think I'm that uncommon. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: massive xml docs
Hi Todd, I don't know how it would behave with a 100MB file but here is the method I use to get the data from a particular node of the tree without having to construct the full tree. Best wishes, Marielle ... # # Get Tag Content In XML tree # # -- @Description: Get the content of a tag, given a path in the xml tree # -- A tag tree has the following syntax: node1:node2:node3:node4 # --node1...node2...node3data/ node3.../node2.../node1 # -- @Returns: Content part when Tag( Params)? __Content__/ Tag(text string) function getTagContent_XML pXMLtext, pTagTree IF pXMLtext is empty THEN terminate(BUG x. An empty content was given to parse. pXMLtext shouldn't be empty in function _getTagContentXML.) IF pTagTree is empty THEN terminate(BUG x. No Tag Tree was specified. pTagTree shouldn't be empty in function _getTagContentXML.) set the itemdel to : replace quote with empty in pTagTree-- This is to get rid of quotes in case there is any -- repeat for each item tTag in pTagTree put getTagContent_XML(pXMLtext, tTag) into pXMLtext end repeat return pXMLtext end getTagContent_XML ... function getTagContent pXMLtext, pTagName, # -- @Requires: swapEOL() - not included here -- swaps end of lines from cr to ¬ to allow for multiline matches with matchtext # -- @Requires: stripInitialTabs() -- not included here put swapEOL(pXMLtext, remove) into pXMLtext if matchtext(pXMLtext, (?i) pTagName [ ]?[^]*(.+?)/ pTagName , tTagContent) is false then return empty put swapEOL(tTagContent, restore) into tTagContent put stripInitialTabs(tTagContent) into pXMLtext return pXMLtext end getTagContent . Marielle Lange (PhD), Psycholinguist Alternative emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Homepage http://homepages.widged.com/mlange/ Easy access to lexical databaseshttp:// lexicall.widged.com/ Supporting Education Technologists http:// revolution.widged.com/wiki/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
Hi, Yes, I am running on Mac for the moment, the app will eventually be deployed on Mac and Windows. Haven't had much luck in getting this to work. I downloaded and installed MySQL. I then downloaded libDatabase and sample stack called libdb_recipes. When I run up the recipes.rev stack, I get an error: libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database 'recipes'). I can't seem to find any documentation of what is supposed to happen or if I am supposed to change anything. I looked in the registerDatabase handler in the stack script and this seems to be setup ok for MySQL. Right now I'm not sure if I have the right MySQL package installed, I got my copy from: http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-4.0/mysql-standard-4.0.26- apple-darwin7.9.0-powerpc.dmg/from/pick and it seemed to install just fine. I have the following files in a folder and am running from this folder: libDatabase.rev recipes.rev recipes.sql I have stepped thru recipes.rev and it loads and calls libDatabase.rev ok. Do I need to change anything to get this to work? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 11 Feb 2006, at 16:18, Charles Hartman wrote: What platform? On OSX I was in a similar position recently, and I settled for MySQL (downloadable) with Blue Mango's (Trevor DeVore's) libDatabase 2.0 (ditto). This way's free. The libDatabase isn't strictly necessary (it's a wrapper around revdb functions), but it makes things a *lot* simpler and more rational. Charles On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:52 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi All, I have worked on Rev for a while but have not used it with a database application before and was wondering the easiest and cheapest way to get going with it. I have the following basic questions: What do I need to Add to RunRev to be able to: a) Create and Add data to a database locally. b) Retrieve records based on the contents of a number for fields. c) Modify existing records in the database. The database will contain around 100,000 to 300,000 records. Thanks a lot for any help All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Le 13 févr. 06 à 14:11, Charles Hartman a écrit : On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... I repectly don't agree at all with that, at least in about web- enabled application's development. Just have an eye to most of the leading technologies used to turn the web development in a powerfull and rock-solid usable way so see that Rev is in the right way with, perhaps, five to ten years forwards advance... PHP, Javascript, AJAX, Ruby, Python, Plone-Zope, etc... are great to zap the Java dynosorus from a design point of view. Rev applications servers are just not enough knowed to be able to let us code great apps in a more suitable way than the upon named script-based environments. Thanks RunRev, -- Pierre Sahores www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
Hi, Yes, I am running on Mac for the moment, the app will eventually be deployed on Mac and Windows. Haven't had much luck in getting this to work. I downloaded and installed MySQL. I then downloaded libDatabase and sample stack called libdb_recipes. When I run up the recipes.rev stack, I get an error: libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database 'recipes'). I can't seem to find any documentation of what is supposed to happen or if I am supposed to change anything. I looked in the registerDatabase handler in the stack script and this seems to be setup ok for MySQL. Right now I'm not sure if I have the right MySQL package installed, I got my copy from: http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-4.0/mysql-standard-4.0.26- apple-darwin7.9.0-powerpc.dmg/from/pick and it seemed to install just fine. I have the following files in a folder and am running from this folder: libDatabase.rev recipes.rev recipes.sql I have stepped thru recipes.rev and it loads and calls libDatabase.rev ok. Do I need to change anything to get this to work? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 11 Feb 2006, at 16:18, Charles Hartman wrote: What platform? On OSX I was in a similar position recently, and I settled for MySQL (downloadable) with Blue Mango's (Trevor DeVore's) libDatabase 2.0 (ditto). This way's free. The libDatabase isn't strictly necessary (it's a wrapper around revdb functions), but it makes things a *lot* simpler and more rational. Charles On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:52 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi All, I have worked on Rev for a while but have not used it with a database application before and was wondering the easiest and cheapest way to get going with it. I have the following basic questions: What do I need to Add to RunRev to be able to: a) Create and Add data to a database locally. b) Retrieve records based on the contents of a number for fields. c) Modify existing records in the database. The database will contain around 100,000 to 300,000 records. Thanks a lot for any help All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to stay on a card when repeating a « find »
Le Friday, 10 Feb 2006, à 17:58 Europe/Paris, J. Landman Gay a écrit : But just to be complete for anyone who is following this, you could also do this: on preOpenCard if the number of this cd 4 then set the dontsearch of this cd to false end preOpencard on closeCard set the dontsearch of this cd to true end closeCard This would be the fastest way to do what you want. Before you run these scripts, make sure you have set all the cards to dontsearch. The above handlers just make the current card searchable, unless it is one of the first four. Hi Jacqueline, I tried that of course ; actually, it is the fastest way !! (from 2000 measures on each solution, I found a mean about 15 times faster than the mean of the preceeding solution :-))) Meanwhile, before searching in the current card only, I have to search among the cards (to find those which include the keywords). So I can't set, once and for, all the dontsearch to true. Thus, I have to switch the dontsearch (of all cards) from true to false (and resume true) in a couple of places in my whole program. It works very well. Thanks a lot for your attention to this problem and your very nice solution Best regards from Grenoble André -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Minimum Mac specs for Rev 2.6.1?
Ken, Something else that might cause this is a running script (infinite or long loop) that you are not aware of. On a mac multiple flower-.s will sometimes get you out. Just a guess, Glenn on February 12, 2006 10:45:36 PM CST you wrote: Thanks all for your advice. Here are the freeze symptoms: The mouse cursor doesn't freeze; RR main menu does not respond to show pulldowns, keyboard commands (like C-save/quit) don't work; None of the tools in the toolbar respond to clicks; In open RR windows and palettes the close-minimise-maximise buttons turn white and don't work, and those that are not dimmed don't work; Open windows and palettes can't be dragged around, or brought to the front; None of the palettes respond to selection clicks. From what you say it could have been a dysfunctional script, as the debugger was reporting (yet another..!) error when the freeze happened. -- Glenn E. Fisher University of Houston - Retired 22402 Diane Dr. Spring, Tx 77373 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uh.edu/~fisher http://home.houston.rr.com/thegefishers/ http://homepage.mac.com/gefisher ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
As you know I'm a newbie to Rev, but this gives what seems (in this forum) to be a fairly unique perspective. Most of you are either experts, or well up the curve. So maybe I can give you the perspective of a (possible) new Rev user. It's the Docs that are the problem for newbies, and it's the docs that turn us away. I tried Rev in about 2003, and decided it was just too hard. I was hoping things had got a bit easier by now, but it dosn't look like it to me. Now before you tell me I'm lazy, here's where I've been. To the Rev site tutorials of course. To the BYU site, to go through their Rev lessons. To nearly every site in the Rev web ring, to look at tutorials. To the Rev Ed site at widget.com. I've downloaded the Scripters Scrapbook (which I'll buy if I persist with Rev). And I've downloaded lots of sample stacks to see how people do things. I haven't go very far because nobody else has made an app remotely like the one I need. Well Doc Messimer made Preceptor, which is vaguely similar, but I didn't like the GUI. The Docs. Here is an example of what newbies face. You can LOL, but this is the problem. You have all forgotten how much you know, and you forget to mention the really simple basic things. I wanted a pulldown menu button to go into a stack menu; the submenu items are to open cards in the mainstack. The here is what the Docs say about the message for a submenu item: menuPick chosenItem[|submenuName],previousTab on menuPick theItem -- in a pulldown menu if theItem is Close then close the defaultStack else if theItem is Quit then quit end menuPick This message is obviously for a main menu like File, where you want Close or Quit. But its no help to me when I just want to open a card in the mainstack. Also, do I insert it exactly as shown with [] around submenuName? The docs don't say. And the vertical slash. It said somewhere that on Mac I should do this with option-shift-L. But my keyboard has a vertical slash key. When I do option-shift-L on my keyboard I get Ò. So, do I use my slash, or not? And, what's that previousTab thing on the end for?? Anyway, I tried all the possibilities and none worked. So then I went hunting on the web for an example I could copy. Good grief. Perhaps you see the problem. The Docs are great if you have some idea of what your doing. If you are trying to learn what to do, they are are of little use, or just a source of teeth gnashing frustration. That's why Rev isn't more popular. I agree with those that say Rev needs something in addition to the tutorials for newbies. I think they need sets of simple working examples with a variety of script examples. I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the professionals using? Dreamweaver and GoLive. There is a lesson in there for Rev I think. Ken -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Contrib-to-old-topics---why-isn%27t-Rev-more-popular--t1114188.html#a2911050 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
any rumors on when their site is back? the in a few hours has kind of expired =) Is there really an update coming? So far most older or newer bugzillas have been untouched... So im skeptical but i love surprises... Common, any real rumors people? cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/02/2006 14:37:00: Le 13 févr. 06 à 14:11, Charles Hartman a écrit : On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... I repectly don't agree at all with that, at least in about web- enabled application's development. Just have an eye to most of the leading technologies used to turn the web development in a powerfull and rock-solid usable way so see that Rev is in the right way with, perhaps, five to ten years forwards advance... PHP, Javascript, AJAX, Ruby, Python, Plone-Zope, etc... are great to zap the Java dynosorus from a design point of view. Rev applications servers are just not enough knowed to be able to let us code great apps in a more suitable way than the upon named script-based environments. Thanks RunRev, -- Pierre Sahores www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - To make communications with Clearstream easier, Clearstream has recently changed the email address format to conform with industry standards. The new format is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now inexplicably when trying to copy text from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using control c. The copy function still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both keyboard and menu mode. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? Any fixes other than a wipe and re-install? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: import song to itunes from within Rev
Oh, Sarah, Thank you so much. I spent way to much time trying to figure out what was wrong. I was so close, I should always trust my instincts. I appreciate the extra info as well, you have actually helped me fix a few issues I was having. What a great resource this list is. It never fails to amaze me. Thanks again, Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: As you suspected, the problem is with the file path. AppleScript uses the old Apple file path delimiter : while Rev uses the Unix delimiter /. Also AppleScript requires the hard drive name to be included in the path and Rev doesn't. Your script will work fine if you change the /'s to :'s. For changing back forth, use the revMacFromUnixPath revUnixFromMacPath functions. BTW, if you want to add the item to a specific playlist, you can specify this in the add line e.g. add thisItem to playlist Fav songs HTH, Sarah Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CD Audio Stack Request
Noel,
Check the docs for play, you need to supply the path to the source
and then you can use the straight play commands that include:
play [stop | pause | resume | step {forward | back}] clip
The play command is very versatile:
play /usr/local/clips/music.aiff -- a file
play videoClip Movie at 100,100 -- an imported video clip
play audioClip Trust No One looping
play pause videoClip Sample
The hard part will be getting the file path to the songs on the CD if
you don't know what they are to be.
HTH
Tom
On Feb 8, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Noel Kalicharan wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm interested to know if anyone has done (or knows about) a
Revolution stack that allows one to control an audio CD (with
commands like CDPlay, CDStop, CDPause, etc.) along the lines of the
Voyager CD Audio HyperCard stack (if you are familiar with that).
Thanks for any help,
Regards
Noel
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Re: Getting Started with a Database
On 2/12/06, David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What is the issue number? I looked at issue 166 (http:// www.macformat.co.uk/) but couldn't see anything about Valentina and I can't seem to find details on the February issue. Yes, you want issue 165, the Feb issue. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
Hi use control-ins to copy and ins to paste - they dont use the (senile) menus and work 92% of the time ;) ins = insert key above delete key right of teh backspace key. -=- Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/02/2006 15:36:41: Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now inexplicably when trying to copy text from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using control c. The copy function still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both keyboard and menu mode. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? Any fixes other than a wipe and re-install? - To make communications with Clearstream easier, Clearstream has recently changed the email address format to conform with industry standards. The new format is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
I agree with you Charles, I think that Marketing is the exact market for DC and that letting people who like to tinker but have no further use (i.e. commercial) is very very important for the future of a product like Revolution. Also, the education field is very important to our future. I would guess that some people only see the benefits in front of them and not the bigger picture. Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:11 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... (carefully selecting the polite form of the answer) Why yes, there is a market for it. As an unfunded private individual developing mostly tutorial stacks, I can afford DC and certainly not any other form of RR. The no-standalones limitation isn't much of an inconvenience for distribution, especially with StackRunner. No DC, I'm gone. I don't think I'm that uncommon. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
I use DREAMCARD (which I would be tempted to pay for a newer version were it not going down the plug-hole) on Mac OS X and find the key-commands just don't work about 90% of the time. This is a bl**dy nuisance if, like me, you eat anti-inflamatories for breakfast, lunch and tea to cope with wrist injuries bought about by wiggling the mouse too much (No, before you ask, that is not an OT remark referring to something else). However (and this is VERY ODD INDEED) when I set up my Belkin Nostromo and progged single buttons to send cmd-c and cmd-v signals (and all the rest) they worked 100% of the time. I would like to think that that was the 'wonder' of the Nostromo - but it is not - it must be due to DC/RR not picking up signals when 2 keys are pressed down at once. SO - unless the Runtime Revolution company are planning to issue fancy keypads to all future purchasers of their products - something needs to be done. I asked in an earlier posting whether it might be possible to use the F-keys at the top of most keyboards to call menu-commands: maybe the future lies with doing away with cmd-X / ctrl-X and so on that involve depressing 2 or more keys (which is ergonomically bad form) and replacing them with a requirement to press only a single F-key. There are 15 F-keys at the top of my Mac keyboards, there are 12 on my PC keyboards, plus all those keys over to the left on the number pad, which, intead of reduplicating keys on the main keyboard could be used to call menu-commands. call me 'brilliant', call me 'Richmond', but whatever you call me don't deny that some of my ideas are not quite as daft as they seem at first! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution RUMORS!
Go to: http://www.runrev.com/index.html and keep clicking on the cancel button of the password dialogue - it will eventually go away, then read the menu buttons down the left-hand side and, as the Americans say, Go Figure. Not hugely exciting, but probably better than nothing. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where to put Applescripts
Hello listeroos! I have another question: Where is the best place to 'put' Applescripts in Revolution? I test them by putting them in a field and 'do' that field as applescript. I was thinking of using custom properties but some scripts need to be built 'live' as in: put first part of script into variable then add Rev variable to that variable then put last part of script after that variable lastly, do variable as applescript Or would it be better to put the pieces in the stack as variables (then they could be reused often) Thanks Tom Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
Richmond, Have you considered used Sticky Keys? It comes built in to the Macintosh OS under the Universal Access panel in the System Preferences. It states: for difficulties pressing more than one key at a time: With it on you only have to hit the sequence of modifier keys as single key hits. With it on you only have to hit the sequence of modifier keys as single key hits. I copied the sentence above using it with just one finger. HTH Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Mathewson wrote: I would like to think that that was the 'wonder' of the Nostromo - but it is not - it must be due to DC/RR not picking up signals when 2 keys are pressed down at once. : maybe the future lies with doing away with cmd-X / ctrl-X and so on that involve depressing 2 or more keys (which is ergonomically bad form) and replacing them with a requirement to press only a single F-key. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
This is an ongoing nuisance that just shouldn't be there. Is there a bugzilla number for it? Mark On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now inexplicably when trying to copy text from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using control c. The copy function still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both keyboard and menu mode. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? Any fixes other than a wipe and re-install? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
I am curious about why would you share this? I would think that when Rev is ready to release their new info that they would prefer to do so on their own time. On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Mathewson wrote: Go to: http://www.runrev.com/index.html and keep clicking on the cancel button of the password dialogue - it will eventually go away, then read the menu buttons down the left-hand side and, as the Americans say, Go Figure. Not hugely exciting, but probably better than nothing. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution RUMOURS!
I quote: Version 2.7 is available for download here: http://downloads.runrev.com This update release brings new features and improvements to the best programming environment around. * New object blending capabilities. All objects, including standard system controls such as buttons and fields, as well as media elements such as QuickTime movies, can now be rendered using a rich variety of blend modes and opacity settings. * Over 20 brand new blend modes. Includes the industry standard porter-duff and SVG compositing operators. * Window level transitions. Now you can perform transitions with alpha channels on an entire window, allowing effects such as rippling applications on the desktop. * New image rendering options. Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. * Anti-aliasing Graphics Engine. Revolution?s vector graphics presentation layer is now anti-aliased. * Multi-monitor Support. Revolution solutions can now be built to support multiple monitors, including different backdrops on each monitor. * Enhanced QuickTime performance. Allows smoother playback and the ability to move movies live during playback. * Enhanced dynamic scripting. Preserves state across recompilation, allowing for faster debugging. * New Installer with Roll-Back capability. Roll-Back allows you to install newer versions of Revolution as they become available, and go back to any previously installed version. Auto-updater downloads only what has changed, making it quick and easy to try out the latest version. * Improved printing. Quality has been improved when printing complex documents containing text and certain types of image. * All new documentation including brand new PDF User?s Guide, rewritten to describe the entire product - complete with many new examples. * A number of bug fixes and stability improvements have been included. New features in Revolution Media: All the Templates in Revolution Media feature a simple point-and-click interface, making it easy for you to create stunning multimedia quickly and easily. * Slide Show Template. Create digital slide show projects with custom transition effects. Then open your slide show and add custom features. * Portfolio Builder Template. Create portfolio projects to showcase your work, add in your contact details, and deliver to friends or clients. * Kiosk Builder Template. Build interactive kiosks for use in touchscreen information systems - for in museums, shopping centers and more. * Adventure Game Builder Template. Build a walk-through adventure game from your rendered 3D scenes. Then add puzzles, logic and special features. More complete information about Revolution 2.7 can be found in the Revolution change log file which also accompanies the release. The Revolution Advantage * Create standalone applications - easily! * Easy, English like programming language * Drag and drop interface objects * 90% less programming time compared with a language such as Java * Single code and test environment * No more waiting while an application compiles * Write once, run anywhere * Correct, native appearance and behavior for all platforms - including Mac Windows XP Themes, Mac OS X and Linux GTK themes * Royalty-free distribution If your Revolution license is current, this upgrade is free! Just download it, and unlock with your existing license. If you don't yet have a Revolution license, we can't imagine why not, but this release is yet another great reason to rush out and buy it now sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Hello listeroos! I have another question: Where is the best place to 'put' Applescripts in Revolution? I test them by putting them in a field and 'do' that field as applescript. I was thinking of using custom properties but some scripts need to be built 'live' as in: put first part of script into variable then add Rev variable to that variable then put last part of script after that variable lastly, do variable as applescript Or would it be better to put the pieces in the stack as variables (then they could be reused often) Thanks Tom Your thinking is quite correct and there is no need to split them into parts. Just put the whole applescript into a custom property with tokens where the dynamic parts are; for example, [datafilepath] can be a token for a filepath. At runtime, fetch this property into a variable and replace the tokens with actual values. By the way, have you tried talking directly to iTunes from Rev? Look up send to program command. The commands are what you tell in AppleScript to do. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Real rumors?? My sources say that RunRev company was recently purchased by Microsoft. They are currently rebranding the website to announce the release of Microsoft Visual Runtime Revolution.NET 2006 SP 1. They will also announce that support for Mac Classic, OS X, and Unix/Linux will be dropped. How is that for a rumor?;-) Robert On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any rumors on when their site is back? the in a few hours has kind of expired =) Is there really an update coming? So far most older or newer bugzillas have been untouched... So im skeptical but i love surprises... Common, any real rumors people? cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/02/2006 14:37:00: Le 13 févr. 06 à 14:11, Charles Hartman a écrit : On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... I repectly don't agree at all with that, at least in about web- enabled application's development. Just have an eye to most of the leading technologies used to turn the web development in a powerfull and rock-solid usable way so see that Rev is in the right way with, perhaps, five to ten years forwards advance... PHP, Javascript, AJAX, Ruby, Python, Plone-Zope, etc... are great to zap the Java dynosorus from a design point of view. Rev applications servers are just not enough knowed to be able to let us code great apps in a more suitable way than the upon named script-based environments. Thanks RunRev, -- Pierre Sahores www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - To make communications with Clearstream easier, Clearstream has recently changed the email address format to conform with industry standards. The new format is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
I use custom properties and use getprop and setprop to tidy the applescript when I set it or retrieve it, it is a very elegant solution Thomas! :-) cheers andre On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello listeroos! I have another question: Where is the best place to 'put' Applescripts in Revolution? I test them by putting them in a field and 'do' that field as applescript. I was thinking of using custom properties but some scripts need to be built 'live' as in: put first part of script into variable then add Rev variable to that variable then put last part of script after that variable lastly, do variable as applescript Or would it be better to put the pieces in the stack as variables (then they could be reused often) Thanks Tom Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
quoting Thomas McGrath: Have you considered used Sticky Keys? It comes built in to the Macintosh OS under the Universal Access panel in the System Preferences. It states: for difficulties pressing more than one key at a time: With it on you only have to hit the sequence of modifier keys as single key hits. With it on you only have to hit the sequence of modifier keys as single key hits. Yes, I have, and the word in your message that best sums up its short-comings is sequence. Nielsen and the other usability chaps would have forty-thousand fits! In Dundee there is a socking great building (at the western end of the King's Highway) owned by NCR (National Cash Register) and, surprisingly enough, this is not a factory where they build cash registers and bank automats - it is the 'think tank' where people try to design ever-more user-friendly cash registers and bank automats. Like everywhere else they are faced with to diametrically opposed forces: 1. To make the machine as feature-rich as possible, and 2. To make the user-interface simpler. My Dad bought me a calculator in 1976 which had 4 functions: +, -, / and * and it was great. 2 Years later he bought me a 'scientific' calculator with more features than I would ever use which had to be accessed through any number of multiple key pressings - after the initial euphoria it went in the cupboard and I reverted to my first calculator - needless to say, I now rely on a Thornton Double-sided slide-rule which has no buttons and every feature is up-front so I don't have to memorise 275 fancy key-combinations just to do a quicky with a few Napierian logs. Pressing 3 keys one after one another is more damaging to tendons as pressing 3 at once. Jeff Raskin (the late, great Jeff Raskin) was working on a mouseless GUI when he died - I hope somebody will continue work on it. Any way, after that rant I'm going to stump across to my main-Mac and try a few F-key hacks of the RR interface! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Common, any real rumors people? Sorry, X... I'm not a real person so any rumour is likely wind. But you never know what the wind will bring. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AIFF files and Ubuntu Linux revisited
Well, my English school is now up and half-way running (i.e. 6 kids at the moment) and using a variety of stacks written by me in DC 2.6.1 running with the Linux Stack Runner (a Gazillion thanks to Richard Gaskin) on 3 Pentium 3s with Ubuntu Linux. The sound files are stored in a common 'data' file (they are sued by all the stacks) as AIF files - now as I mentioned a time back, they have to be slowed down to half their normal rate so that they play normally under Ubuntu. When I pointed this out via the Ubuntu bugzilla I had a few 'silly' messages that suggested it was the fault of RR - not Ubuntu. I am still using the S L O W sound files, and I have no idea whether this is due to RR or Ubuntu. It is a bother thought to have to slow down every sound file after recording it. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Thomas McGrath III wrote: I am curious about why would you share this? I would think that when Rev is ready to release their new info that they would prefer to do so on their own time. Amen Tom! [rant] Why not set up a revRumors yahoo group? ;-) That would be a good place for Here Here I know something. Come look at me and what I know HERE HERE type of posts. [/rant] Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution RUMORS!
I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. I am also aware that incorrect rumours (such as that silly one about a Microsoft takeover) can damage a compnay quite badly. My quote from part of the RunRev site which is entirely accessible acted as a corrective to the silly Microsoft one and acted as an advertisement for the new version of RR that is almost upon us. I love the 'mystery' surrounding rumours, and, presumably, RR know very well that certain types of people enjoy fossicking around for details of the mystery - and knowing that have made sure that the details that are fossicked out are accurate. Now I wonder if I order my new copy of RR from Bulgaria using my Bank of Scotland Mastercard if they can guarantee postal delivery to this country? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Robert, The idea of using tokens is new to me. The idea seems sound but I am confused about the syntax. Would you mind giving an example? My questions are how to extract the token and replace it? can I use replace, find, etc. I looked up the token command and this was not clear. Thanks, Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Hello listeroos! I have another question: Where is the best place to 'put' Applescripts in Revolution? I test them by putting them in a field and 'do' that field as applescript. I was thinking of using custom properties but some scripts need to be built 'live' as in: put first part of script into variable then add Rev variable to that variable then put last part of script after that variable lastly, do variable as applescript Or would it be better to put the pieces in the stack as variables (then they could be reused often) Thanks Tom Your thinking is quite correct and there is no need to split them into parts. Just put the whole applescript into a custom property with tokens where the dynamic parts are; for example, [datafilepath] can be a token for a filepath. At runtime, fetch this property into a variable and replace the tokens with actual values. By the way, have you tried talking directly to iTunes from Rev? Look up send to program command. The commands are what you tell in AppleScript to do. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
So if I troll your personal website and I find a folder you forgot to secure and wasn't linked to anything and it contained personal information, you feel it's ok for me to disclose the info I find to this list? I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Hey, Thomas, with tokens where the dynamic parts are; for example, [datafilepath] can be a token for a filepath. It is a fancier way to say replace [datafilename] with tDatFile in applscrptVar where tDatFile is the variable you created in Rev. thus you can use placeholders or 'tokens'. The catch to the do as AppleScript method is that the script has to be literally the correct string. I have another way to store and retrieve AppleScripts in a stack that I like better than using custom properties since it makes it easier to manage and edit the AppleScripts. I will post it later today with instructions. I could also send an example stack to anyone who is interested in harnessing the power of AppleScript. But for the moment, I have a lengthy meeting to go into. Later Jim Ault Las Vegas On 2/13/06 9:27 AM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, The idea of using tokens is new to me. The idea seems sound but I am confused about the syntax. Would you mind giving an example? My questions are how to extract the token and replace it? can I use replace, find, etc. I looked up the token command and this was not clear. Thanks, Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Hello listeroos! I have another question: Where is the best place to 'put' Applescripts in Revolution? I test them by putting them in a field and 'do' that field as applescript. I was thinking of using custom properties but some scripts need to be built 'live' as in: put first part of script into variable then add Rev variable to that variable then put last part of script after that variable lastly, do variable as applescript Or would it be better to put the pieces in the stack as variables (then they could be reused often) Thanks Tom Your thinking is quite correct and there is no need to split them into parts. Just put the whole applescript into a custom property with tokens where the dynamic parts are; for example, [datafilepath] can be a token for a filepath. At runtime, fetch this property into a variable and replace the tokens with actual values. By the way, have you tried talking directly to iTunes from Rev? Look up send to program command. The commands are what you tell in AppleScript to do. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CD Audio Stack Request
Hi Tom and Noel,
Noel,
Check the docs for play, you need to supply the path to the source
and then you can use the straight play commands that include:
play [stop | pause | resume | step {forward | back}] clip
The play command is very versatile:
play /usr/local/clips/music.aiff -- a file
play videoClip Movie at 100,100 -- an imported video clip
play audioClip Trust No One looping
play pause videoClip Sample
The hard part will be getting the file path to the songs on the CD
if you don't know what they are to be.
whenever i put an audio CD into my Mac a disk called Audio CD
appears on my desktop :-)
But of course that does not mean anything a.k.a. Murphy's Law!
HTH
Tom
Regards
Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de
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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Ken- Monday, February 13, 2006, 6:10:15 AM, you wrote: I agree with those that say Rev needs something in addition to the tutorials for newbies. I think they need sets of simple working examples with a variety of script examples. When www.runrev.com comes back up, take a look at the scripting conference stacks, especially the one on menus, for examples of what you're trying to do. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Ken Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the professionals using? Dreamweaver and GoLive. There is a lesson in there for Rev I think. I found, to my surprise, that professionals aren't using Dreamweaver and GoLive and are, in fact, coding by hand. Our school's web site was redesigned recently (well, 18 months ago) by the University's web services division -- a division that supports itself by contracting out for web site design, i.e., they are professionals. They used Photoshop to mock up the design for us, and then the code view of Dreamweaver for implementation for everything but the rollovers (exported from Photoshop). No design view at all (could have used BBEdit instead). And now, as web content manager for the school, I make all our changes by hand (a terminal window and vi are a lot faster than Dreamweaver and FTP). OT, but what the hay. - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Thanks Jim, I am getting the picture now. I am also curious to your 'other' method. Instructions and stack are a great help. Thanks, Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Hey, Thomas, with tokens where the dynamic parts are; for example, [datafilepath] can be a token for a filepath. It is a fancier way to say replace [datafilename] with tDatFile in applscrptVar where tDatFile is the variable you created in Rev. thus you can use placeholders or 'tokens'. The catch to the do as AppleScript method is that the script has to be literally the correct string. I have another way to store and retrieve AppleScripts in a stack that I like better than using custom properties since it makes it easier to manage and edit the AppleScripts. I will post it later today with instructions. I could also send an example stack to anyone who is interested in harnessing the power of AppleScript. But for the moment, I have a lengthy meeting to go into. Later Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE:IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
Xavier, Thank you for the brilliant work-around. It does bother me though that this rather basic functionality more or less has gone missing for no reason I can fathom. It makes me wary of the IDE. How does one report this as a bug? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:52 AM, David Burgun wrote: Haven't had much luck in getting this to work. I downloaded and installed MySQL. I then downloaded libDatabase and sample stack called libdb_recipes. When I run up the recipes.rev stack, I get an error: libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database 'recipes'). Hi David, It looks like you haven't created the recipes database in MySQL. Did you import the recipes.sql file into your MySQL database? Also, I highly recommend using version 2 of the libDatabase library (available from the same page as version 1). Version 2 does not have an example stack but there is a getting started doc which describes the differences between version 1 and 2 along with code explaining the main functionality. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Robert, The idea of using tokens is new to me. The idea seems sound but I am confused about the syntax. Would you mind giving an example? My questions are how to extract the token and replace it? can I use replace, find, etc. I looked up the token command and this was not clear. Thanks, Tom I wanted to add that if you plan to edit those script on more or less regular basis, then keeping them in an normally invisible field is just as good as a property. With regards to tokens, here is an example of an AppleScript: tell application [appname] to activate Let's assume you store it in a property called myApplescriptBringForward and you want to execute it to make Finder come forwards put quote Finder quote into appname get the myApplescriptBringForward of this stack replace [appname] with appname in it do it as applescript I coded this quite explicitely and hope this makes things clear for you :) Note that my using square brackets is not mandatory but they are convenient delimiters ensuring that the token is a unique string. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video compression using RunRev
On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Glen wrote: Hello All, Is there a way within Revolution to to save and re-compress a QT video from the player window of my app? The EnhancedQT external has a handler called qtExport that displays a dialog allowing you to do this. In the docs included with version 1 you can look under Import/Export for more information. http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/enhancedqt.html -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to put Applescripts
Robert, Very simple and clear now. I was thinking that token had some magic etc. to it and of course was over complicating matters. This is very doable for me and I can see how this would work in a field, variable, custom prop etc. Now on to some token rules i.e. naming constructs. Thanks again, Tom On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Robert, The idea of using tokens is new to me. The idea seems sound but I am confused about the syntax. Would you mind giving an example? My questions are how to extract the token and replace it? can I use replace, find, etc. I looked up the token command and this was not clear. Thanks, Tom I wanted to add that if you plan to edit those script on more or less regular basis, then keeping them in an normally invisible field is just as good as a property. With regards to tokens, here is an example of an AppleScript: tell application [appname] to activate Let's assume you store it in a property called myApplescriptBringForward and you want to execute it to make Finder come forwards put quote Finder quote into appname get the myApplescriptBringForward of this stack replace [appname] with appname in it do it as applescript I coded this quite explicitely and hope this makes things clear for you :) Note that my using square brackets is not mandatory but they are convenient delimiters ensuring that the token is a unique string. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Mathewson wrote: I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. Once again proving yourself untrustworthy and unethical. Do you also break into other people's houses, just because you can? What's wrong with you? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Feb 12, 2006, at 9:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the latest: I'd just be happy with a docs browser that doesn't fight with me. ;-) -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution RUMORS!
a swift breeze I hope to the revlands we rope No storm will bug us but boost good news up 1/X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 February, 2006 18:11 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Revolution RUMORS! Common, any real rumors people? Sorry, X... I'm not a real person so any rumour is likely wind. But you never know what the wind will bring. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Breaking into other people's houses???
I wonder what is unethical about quoting from other people's websites? The page I quoted from was (unlike the basic URL http://www.runrev.com) freely accessible: http://www.runrev.com/section/whats_new.php My website had a 'hidden' page for quite a while with photographs of my children so that my relatives could look at them. It was hidden insofar as there were no links to it - and owing to that it was inaccessible unless you knew the URL. The other pages of my website are freely accessible and as such anybody who so wishes can copy from them. Quoting from a webpage is NOT unethical - what MAY be unethical is if one then writes something negative, derogatory or untrue about it. I am well aware what is unethical. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Dear list folks, I regret that Richmond is back on the moderated list - he won't be able to post without approval. Deliberately bypassing a password and then standing up and shouting about it to the world seems to me just a little too much to swallow. It's there for a reason... Regards, Heather On 13 Feb 2006, at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:06:43 -0500 From: Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Revolution RUMORS! To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. I am also aware that incorrect rumours (such as that silly one about a Microsoft takeover) can damage a compnay quite badly. My quote from part of the RunRev site which is entirely accessible acted as a corrective to the silly Microsoft one and acted as an advertisement for the new version of RR that is almost upon us. I love the 'mystery' surrounding rumours, and, presumably, RR know very well that certain types of people enjoy fossicking around for details of the mystery - and knowing that have made sure that the details that are fossicked out are accurate. Now I wonder if I order my new copy of RR from Bulgaria using my Bank of Scotland Mastercard if they can guarantee postal delivery to this country? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Heather Nagey, Customer Support Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Bravo! Best, Jerry Daniels 5 Reasons 12 Top Rev Developers Use to Constellation! http://daniels-mara.com/products/5reasons.htm On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: Dear list folks, I regret that Richmond is back on the moderated list - he won't be able to post without approval. Deliberately bypassing a password and then standing up and shouting about it to the world seems to me just a little too much to swallow. It's there for a reason... Regards, Heather ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: deleting multiple controls all at once
Thanks for all the answers, especially the ones that say if I need a command like this my overall approach needs to change, which I believe is indeed the case. Thanks! On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Xavier, et al: no if we delete named buttons... My mistake, sorry. My assumption (though the original post isn't clear on the why): These are temporary controls created at runtime My alternatives (if my assumption is correct): * Create the controls in a standalone -- where they're deleted automatically on quitting, or * Maintain a list of the ids (or names) of the controls as they are created and delete from that list. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I just can't stop using it... (was rumours bla bla bla)
I Really don't want to enter this Rumour thread, but seeing Jerry Daniels signature about 5 reasons to use Constellation, I decided to ask if I could add one more reason to our basket. Jerry, I simply love the CTRL+Enter hotkey to summon the editor or to make it leave!!! It's so easy, edit, edit, edit... CTRL+ENTER, see if it worked, invoke the editor back with all my tabs opened the way I left it. Don't know, just thought about saying that. no use for rumours... On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: 5 Reasons 12 Top Rev Developers Use to Constellation! http://daniels-mara.com/products/5reasons.htm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick-O RUMORS!
Hi friends, thank you very much for making so much fuss about my little shareware! I can see that you all are diying from suspense and therefore I will now resolve the mistery!!! YES, i uploaded an update for the wonderful application Quick-O today! Now it reads version 1.1. It is totally written in Transcript and makes heavy use of Trevor's QuickTime external. Use it to comfortably (batch-) convert images and extract frames form quicktime movies. What's new: Now you see preview images in the list of movieframes instead of simple and boring framenumbers. Homepage english: http://www.major-k.de/quick-oe.html Info and screenshots: http://www.major-k.de/quick-ooverviewe.html Download URL english version: http://www.major-k.de/quick-o/Quick-O.app.zip Homepage german: http://www.major-k.de/quick-o.html Info and screenshots german: http://www.major-k.de/quick-ooverview.html Download URL german version: http://www.major-k.de/quick-o/Quick-O_D.app.zip :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Let's all just bear in mind that banning someone is an unfortunate act. This is clearly something Heather did with reluctance, not with glee. I am pretty sure Richmond's intentions were not evil. In fact, it would appear that from his perspective, he was promoting RunRev's new features - features that we are all likely to appreciate. I am not saying it was wise for Richmond to tell us how to hack the RR site, just that we should not be gleeful about making someone an outcast. As one who frequently suffers from foot-in-mouth syndrome, but has the best of intentions, I can tell you that being on the receiving end of group hatred is very unpleasant. Jonathan On 2/13/06, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bravo! Best, Jerry Daniels 5 Reasons 12 Top Rev Developers Use to Constellation! http://daniels-mara.com/products/5reasons.htm On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: Dear list folks, I regret that Richmond is back on the moderated list - he won't be able to post without approval. Deliberately bypassing a password and then standing up and shouting about it to the world seems to me just a little too much to swallow. It's there for a reason... Regards, Heather ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Ken Apthorpe wrote: [snip] It's the Docs that are the problem for newbies, and it's the docs that turn us away. I tried Rev in about 2003, and decided it was just too hard. I was hoping things had got a bit easier by now, but it dosn't look like it to me. [snip] That's why Rev isn't more popular. I agree, and add that the price also adds to a potential new users dislike. I'm sure the price alone has chased of a many potential users. It did keep me at bey for quite some time. I agree with those that say Rev needs something in addition to the tutorials for newbies. I think they need sets of simple working examples with a variety of script examples. I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the professionals using? Dreamweaver and GoLive. There is a lesson in there for Rev I think. [RANT ON] You have a hot import car and you're racing your buddy down a back road... Does that make you a professional? No, the pro still uses the proper equipment and races on pro tracks. Likewise, pro web designers still do things the right way. If the job requires the use of a WYSIWYG editor, then sure, they'll use it, but those editors are seriously limited and can't do what a real pro does with hand coding. For me, I did use WYSIWYG editors for layout only, then I'd open the resulting html files up in a text editor and clean and fix the code, and then continue on with the rest of the html code needed. Basically, a pro knows all the code and could if he/she wanted to create an entire site by hand without the use or need for a WYSIWYG editor. Posers are the ones who call themselves professionals but don't know the code behind the work they did. [RANT OFF] Mmmm... Ok, so you can tell I'm one of those hand coders from back in the day who sneered at WYSIWYG editors. ;-) (started designing sites back in 1994, closed shop in 2001) One other thing. The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but I believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder. I can easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few buttons and tools that I can open and close when needed, but with Rev, the many open windows and lack of a main editor window where I can access all the code of my project really throws me off. In fact, it had thrown me so much that I just gave up on Rev last month. But a few days I go I decided to give it one last try. This time I'm getting along much better. Maybe a break from it allowed me to let the IDE sink in or something. Long story short, I agree, the docs browser sucks, some of the documentation in the docs browser is lacking for a newbie. And I add that the price also can be a turn off. And for someone with A.D.D., the IDE is a turn off (probably not a whole lot of programmers out there with A.D.D., so I doubt this should be a concern). -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Getting Started with a Database
Hi David, Not sure if it has been mentioned or not to you, but I heartly recommend altSQLite. It's zero configuration (database can be in the same folder as your binary). it's pretty lean and is fast enough for the number of records you are looking at. Check it out at: http://www.altuit.com Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Jonathon, Thank you for your kind and wise words. Mark On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: Let's all just bear in mind that banning someone is an unfortunate act. This is clearly something Heather did with reluctance, not with glee. I am pretty sure Richmond's intentions were not evil. In fact, it would appear that from his perspective, he was promoting RunRev's new features - features that we are all likely to appreciate. I am not saying it was wise for Richmond to tell us how to hack the RR site, just that we should not be gleeful about making someone an outcast. As one who frequently suffers from foot-in-mouth syndrome, but has the best of intentions, I can tell you that being on the receiving end of group hatred is very unpleasant. Jonathan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
When using Revolution 2.6 on Mac OS X I am experiencing the exact same thing. Figured it might be something wonky about my installation so I downloaded a new copy, nuked the old copy and the new copy has the same problem. A wipe and re-install has not solved it for me. Kee Nethery On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now inexplicably when trying to copy text from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using control c. The copy function still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both keyboard and menu mode. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? Any fixes other than a wipe and re-install? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Jonathan Lynch wrote: I am pretty sure Richmond's intentions were not evil. In fact, it would appear that from his perspective, he was promoting RunRev's new features - features that we are all likely to appreciate. I am not saying it was wise for Richmond to tell us how to hack the RR site, just that we should not be gleeful about making someone an outcast. I was hoping to avoid participating in this discussion here and this will be my only post on the subject, but it's worth noting that there's really no hacking going on here. The problem is less with Richmond's poor judgment than with the unconventional way RunRev is updating their site: All links coming into the site from Google and other search engines will land the user on the new 404 page, which references still-proprietary info for the public. While I agree it would have been wiser for Richmond to post a note to RunRev rather than here, I suspect a few hundred others have landed on the 404 page from search engines over the weekend. Posting a 404 page which had no proprietary info, along with a properly set up htaccess file, could have avoided this. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE Bug - cannot get VariableWatcher to display
Using 2.6 on Mac OS X I cannot get the VariableWatcher to display. I downloaded a fresh copy and installed that and the problem still exists. What process should I use to nuke the copy on a machine other than wiping the disk? Same machine cannot do copy from keyboard commands but can from the menu. Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution RUMORS!
Hi Charles, Thanks for the restrained reply. I had no idea of the scope for DC. It also seems that I've allowed myself to become the victim of a rather unpleasant fellow who posted something (and seems to have a history of it) and sucked me in. Again thanks, I'll be a little more careful when it comes to Richmond Scott -Original Message- From: Charles Hartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2006 12:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Revolution RUMORS! On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... (carefully selecting the polite form of the answer) Why yes, there is a market for it. As an unfunded private individual developing mostly tutorial stacks, I can afford DC and certainly not any other form of RR. The no-standalones limitation isn't much of an inconvenience for distribution, especially with StackRunner. No DC, I'm gone. I don't think I'm that uncommon. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
Is there any way to tell if a modal dialog is open? I mean, apart from setting a flag before you do a modal stack modal dialog or looking for modal dialog in the open stacks? the topStack won't return a modal dialog. I'm sure I'm just overlooking something simple. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... (carefully selecting the polite form of the answer) Why yes, there is a market for it. As an unfunded private individual developing mostly tutorial stacks, I can afford DC and certainly not any other form of RR. The no-standalones limitation isn't much of an inconvenience for distribution, especially with StackRunner. No DC, I'm gone. I don't think I'm that uncommon. Charles Seconded. Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - cannot get VariableWatcher to display
On 2/14/06, kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using 2.6 on Mac OS X I cannot get the VariableWatcher to display. I downloaded a fresh copy and installed that and the problem still exists. What process should I use to nuke the copy on a machine other than wiping the disk? Same machine cannot do copy from keyboard commands but can from the menu The keyboard commands problem is often fixed by resetting preferences to the defaults (there is a button to do this in the Prefs window). Maybe it will fix the other problems too? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
Any way, after that rant I'm going to stump across to my main-Mac and try a few F-key hacks of the RR interface! You might like to use my FunKey plugin s a starting point: http://www.troz.net/Rev/plugins/FunKey.rev.gz. It allows you to allocate script snippets to each of the function keys and uses a front script to trap the key and do whatever has been programmed. It could easily be extended to use command keys as well and would eliminate the need to hack into the actual Rev stacks. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Marty Billingsley wrote: Ken Apthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll finish with an analogy. Back in the days when getting up a web site was all the rage, the hand coders would sneer at WSIWYG web tools like the early versions of Dreamweaver and Cyberstudio. Now what are even the professionals using? Dreamweaver and GoLive. There is a lesson in there for Rev I think. I found, to my surprise, that professionals aren't using Dreamweaver and GoLive and are, in fact, coding by hand. I think it depends on which professionals. I haven't seen stats, but I know anecdotally that a great many professional sites are done with DW and some even with GL. It's a question of productivity, of the tradeoffs between hand-coded tight HTML vs. rapid development. And most of the code is the same, whether generated by hand or by machine. p is p whether typed by hand or generated. One could argue that all C++ introduced over C was the insertion of orders of magnitude more JSR statements into the object code. But of course that's only one view, a view that overlooks the productivity benefits of OOP. One could make a similar comparison of C vs. Assembler, or to bring it back home, of Transcript vs. any lower level alternative. Similarly, MVC (Model-View-Controller) paradigms add overhead to code, but the microseconds lost in that data management are more than made up for in delivering richer features at a lower cost to customers. The older I get, the more I'm migrating my code to such generalized patterns. Sure, I'm giving up a few microseconds of performance, but if I can build functional UIs in hours which previously took days my customers will be grateful for the loss. :) Back to the original post, it would be especially helpful if Mr. Apthorpe would tell us a bit about his background -- whether he's done other programming, whether he's had previous experience with xTalks, stuff like that. The hardest part about product documentation is knowing the audience, so it's especially helpful to get background info on audience members who express difficulty so future version can be more tailored for that learning style. I liked his analogy of HTML generators and I agree it's a fitting one here. There are many opportunities for ways to decrease coding effort, and while some pro developers may not use them a great many more would find it enormously valuable to be able to drop in behaviors in Rev as in DW and other WYSIYG authoring tools. And if the APIs for such behaviors were as well documented as those for DW, it might have as much of a positive impact on third party developers as DW's massive number of available extensions, so pro and hobbyist users alike could all benefit. Mr. Apthorpe wrote: The Docs are great if you have some idea of what your doing. If you are trying to learn what to do, they are are of little use, or just a source of teeth gnashing frustration. I know that enhancement of the documentation has been an item of keen interest at RunRev, and it'll be interesting to see how that interest manifests itself in future versions of the product. In the meantime, perhaps the greatest contribution for learners came from Jacque Gay's efforts throughout 2005 in working with developers to create a comprehensive tutorial series. These were available at the RunRev site until a couple days ago, and no doubt will return soon. I would strongly encourage you to check those out, and we're all anxious to see what RunRev does with regard to make the docs more task-oriented. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: hiliting only one button of a group
The short answer is that you can't get a group to do this automatically. You'll have to hand-code the behavior. Grouping the buttons into a group will make this process easier because you can just write a group script that uses an array of the button names and cycles through them, turning off any that are on and turning on the one that is the target. Make sense? On 2/5/06, N Cueto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to reproduce a radio-button group behaviour, but with push buttons. I.e., only one push button of a group of push button can appear hilited (recessed?) at a time. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
Peter T. Evensen wrote: Is there any way to tell if a modal dialog is open? I mean, apart from setting a flag before you do a modal stack modal dialog or looking for modal dialog in the open stacks? the topStack won't return a modal dialog. I'm sure I'm just overlooking something simple. You can check the mode property of a stack to see. The mode of a modal stack is 5. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time Calculations
Gregory Not sure your conclusion is justified by the facts. :-) With twelvehourtime set to true or false, the same result is obtained. It appears that Revolution believes that 3:45 P.M., however it is expressed, is in fact earlier than 4:10 A.M. With the twelveHourTime set to false, this line: put 15:45 = 04:10 in the Message box produces a result of false as well. The logic isn't clear to me, but the behavior is at least consistent. On 2/6/06, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I want to confirm that, bugs aside, time calculations can only be done using the dateItems. I ask this because the following inequality gives me the wrong answer when using a twelve hour clock. set the twelveHourTime to true if 3:45 PM = 4:10 AM then put Later else put Earlier end if Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: launch Outlook
On 2/13/06 3:02 PM, Till Bandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to launch a Outlook document from Revolution. An Outlook document? Can you clarify what you mean by that? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
Hi, Jacque. I was really after a method to tell if any (unknown) modal stack is open. topStack gives the top-most editable stack. I was wondering if there was a way to tell if a modal dialog was being displayed. I figured out a way to do what I was trying to do (suspend and resume messages when a dialog comes up), so the question is more of an academic one right now. At 02:59 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: Peter T. Evensen wrote: Is there any way to tell if a modal dialog is open? I mean, apart from setting a flag before you do a modal stack modal dialog or looking for modal dialog in the open stacks? the topStack won't return a modal dialog. I'm sure I'm just overlooking something simple. You can check the mode property of a stack to see. The mode of a modal stack is 5. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Hi, All this could have been avoided if someone had thought to say that the site would be down for a few days. Saying check again in a few hours just makes people keep checking. Also, I don't think that hitting the cancel keys a few times can really be classed as deliberately bypassing a password and he as far as I can see, he didn't stand up and shout about it either. Posting it here was just telling interested parties that there was a new version of RunRev on the way, something we would have found out about anyway in the near future (one would hope!). I had just started a new project and having the site down for a few days didn't really fill me with confidence. RunRev Limited could have been filing for bankruptcy as far as I knew. I was glad to see that all is well and we will be getting a new version soon. Also I wouldn't have bothered to look at the thread and see the information if I hadn't of seen that someone had got bumped into the naughty corner ! Once I saw that I knew there would be something juicy at the end of it so took a closer look! Glad I did! Of course this could all be some kind of publicity stunt and RunRev and Richmond could be cahoots to fool us all into talking about it! Wheels within Wheels within Wheels... All the Best Dave On 13 Feb 2006, at 19:32, Heather Nagey wrote: Dear list folks, I regret that Richmond is back on the moderated list - he won't be able to post without approval. Deliberately bypassing a password and then standing up and shouting about it to the world seems to me just a little too much to swallow. It's there for a reason... Regards, Heather On 13 Feb 2006, at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:06:43 -0500 From: Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Revolution RUMORS! To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I assume that if RR really wanted to keep things absolutely water-tight thay would have made sure that the RunRev website was completely inaccessible. I am also aware that incorrect rumours (such as that silly one about a Microsoft takeover) can damage a compnay quite badly. My quote from part of the RunRev site which is entirely accessible acted as a corrective to the silly Microsoft one and acted as an advertisement for the new version of RR that is almost upon us. I love the 'mystery' surrounding rumours, and, presumably, RR know very well that certain types of people enjoy fossicking around for details of the mystery - and knowing that have made sure that the details that are fossicked out are accurate. Now I wonder if I order my new copy of RR from Bulgaria using my Bank of Scotland Mastercard if they can guarantee postal delivery to this country? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Heather Nagey, Customer Support Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
Her method will allow you to do this... The OpenStacks function will return all the open stacks, then you can go through the list to check to see if any are modal. On 2/13/06, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Jacque. I was really after a method to tell if any (unknown) modal stack is open. topStack gives the top-most editable stack. I was wondering if there was a way to tell if a modal dialog was being displayed. I figured out a way to do what I was trying to do (suspend and resume messages when a dialog comes up), so the question is more of an academic one right now. At 02:59 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: Peter T. Evensen wrote: Is there any way to tell if a modal dialog is open? I mean, apart from setting a flag before you do a modal stack modal dialog or looking for modal dialog in the open stacks? the topStack won't return a modal dialog. I'm sure I'm just overlooking something simple. You can check the mode property of a stack to see. The mode of a modal stack is 5. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Garrett Hylltun wrote: One other thing. The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but I believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder. I can easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few buttons and tools that I can open and close when needed, but with Rev, the many open windows and lack of a main editor window where I can access all the code of my project really throws me off. You might want to look at Constellation. It's not quite one big editor window - but it does feature one large window with multiple panes for different aspects of an IDE, and multiple tabbed pages for editing different scripts. http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/ In fact, it had thrown me so much that I just gave up on Rev last month. But a few days I go I decided to give it one last try. This time I'm getting along much better. Maybe a break from it allowed me to let the IDE sink in or something. Oh - I give up on it every other month - but I always come back :-) :-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: [snip] I found, to my surprise, that professionals aren't using Dreamweaver and GoLive and are, in fact, coding by hand. I think it depends on which professionals. I haven't seen stats, but I know anecdotally that a great many professional sites are done with DW and some even with GL. It's a question of productivity, of the tradeoffs between hand- coded tight HTML vs. rapid development. And most of the code is the same, whether generated by hand or by machine. p is p whether typed by hand or generated. I have to disagree. Just about all WYSIWYG html editors are prone to code trashing and adding unnecessary code. Download any of those editors and create a page with them, and of course create the same page by hand code. Then compare them in code and file size. You'll see what I mean. Many will use different code, or even MS specific only codes. Or do something like div span instead of p or even several br tags instead. Many will inject css when it's not even needed, just adding more the bulk of the code it will produce. Of course, if you know your target audience is only using broadband connections and MSIE, then no problem. One could argue that all C++ introduced over C was the insertion of orders of magnitude more JSR statements into the object code. But of course that's only one view, a view that overlooks the productivity benefits of OOP. One could make a similar comparison of C vs. Assembler, or to bring it back home, of Transcript vs. any lower level alternative. Comparing hand coded html to the use of a WYSIWYG editor with C++ and C doesn't even equate. You would need to compare something like PureBasic to M:Poster or other VPL environments. PureBasic has such a broader ability, and pumps out seriously small executable files, whereas M:Poster has limited abilities and creates larger executable files. In fact, VPL's may be considered worse than a WYSIWYG html editor in the sense that you can't go into the source code and clean it up or optimize it, you have no access to the code at all. [snip] And just to note, Rev is not a VPL, nor are language such as VB or any other MS language available. There are very very few VPL's around, and the M:Poster I mention is long since gone from the net. -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
I guess sometimes I need things spelled out for me (slaps forehead). You are correct. I didn't think of stepping through the openStacks to see if any had a mode of 5. Thanks to you both! At 03:13 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: Her method will allow you to do this... The OpenStacks function will return all the open stacks, then you can go through the list to check to see if any are modal. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
Peter T. Evensen wrote: I was really after a method to tell if any (unknown) modal stack is open. topStack gives the top-most editable stack. I was wondering if there was a way to tell if a modal dialog was being displayed. This is an interesting question; given that modal dialogs block the flow of the script that opened it this rarely comes up. Is this for managing pending messages? You should find that this stack refers to the modal stack, so a script that asks if the mode of this stack is 5 then should do what you need. Can anyone think of a case where this stack would not return the modal stack currently open? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: launch Outlook
an eMail (with or without annexes) Till Am 13.02.2006 um 22:07 schrieb Ken Ray: On 2/13/06 3:02 PM, Till Bandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to launch a Outlook document from Revolution. An Outlook document? Can you clarify what you mean by that? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to tell if a modal dialog is open?
I was asking for the purposes of managing pending messages. I have a screen that lights a series of circles on the screen. There is a new game button that brings up a are you sure you want to start a new game? dialog. I wanted to pause and resume the LightNextCircle message. I did finally create a SuspendPendingMessages and a ResumePendingMessages handler for this purpose that I call on suspendStack and resumeStack, which works fine. It goes through the pending messages, saves them, and figure out how much time each has. When they are resumed, they are put back with the remaining time left. It was my understanding that this stack will return the name of the top-most editable stack, so it would not return the modal dialog. I just created a test, and it does: this stack on an object in the modal dialog stack returns the modal dialog stack (as in close this stack), but in a message sent to the underlying stack, this stack returns the underlying stack. I created a stack Main Stack with a button: on mouseUp send CheckThisStack to me in 2 seconds modal stack Modal Dialog Stack end mouseUp on CheckThisStack answer the name of this stack end CheckThisStack The modal stack Modal Dialog Stack comes up. and then the answer dialog comes up with 'stack Main Stack' as the value of this stack, and not 'stack Modal Dialog Stack' At 03:27 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: Peter T. Evensen wrote: I was really after a method to tell if any (unknown) modal stack is open. topStack gives the top-most editable stack. I was wondering if there was a way to tell if a modal dialog was being displayed. This is an interesting question; given that modal dialogs block the flow of the script that opened it this rarely comes up. Is this for managing pending messages? You should find that this stack refers to the modal stack, so a script that asks if the mode of this stack is 5 then should do what you need. Can anyone think of a case where this stack would not return the modal stack currently open? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: IDE Bug - cannot get VariableWatcher to display
resetting the prefs did bring back the variable watcher, thank you sarah! Kee On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On 2/14/06, kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using 2.6 on Mac OS X I cannot get the VariableWatcher to display. I downloaded a fresh copy and installed that and the problem still exists. What process should I use to nuke the copy on a machine other than wiping the disk? Same machine cannot do copy from keyboard commands but can from the menu The keyboard commands problem is often fixed by resetting preferences to the defaults (there is a button to do this in the Prefs window). Maybe it will fix the other problems too? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time Calculations
To me, 15:45 = 04:10 looks like a simple string comparison. Since 0 1 the result ought to be false. Looking at these strings as time, Revolution's answer still is correct. 15:45 surely isn't early than 04:10. One of the advantages of using a 24h time scale is that string comparisons and time comparisons give the same result. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. Thomas Am 13.02.2006 um 22:01 schrieb Dan Shafer: Gregory Not sure your conclusion is justified by the facts. :-) With twelvehourtime set to true or false, the same result is obtained. It appears that Revolution believes that 3:45 P.M., however it is expressed, is in fact earlier than 4:10 A.M. With the twelveHourTime set to false, this line: put 15:45 = 04:10 in the Message box produces a result of false as well. The logic isn't clear to me, but the behavior is at least consistent. -- Katharina und Thomas von Fintel Pinnasberg 76 20359 Hamburg Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time Calculations
Thomas von Fintel wrote: To me, 15:45 = 04:10 looks like a simple string comparison. Since 0 1 the result ought to be false. Looking at these strings as time, Revolution's answer still is correct. 15:45 surely isn't early than 04:10. One of the advantages of using a 24h time scale is that string comparisons and time comparisons give the same result. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. No, I think you've nailed it. Anything within quotation marks will always be interpreted as a string literal. Thomas Am 13.02.2006 um 22:01 schrieb Dan Shafer: Gregory Not sure your conclusion is justified by the facts. :-) With twelvehourtime set to true or false, the same result is obtained. It appears that Revolution believes that 3:45 P.M., however it is expressed, is in fact earlier than 4:10 A.M. With the twelveHourTime set to false, this line: put 15:45 = 04:10 in the Message box produces a result of false as well. The logic isn't clear to me, but the behavior is at least consistent. -- Katharina und Thomas von Fintel Pinnasberg 76 20359 Hamburg Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: hiliting only one button of a group
I think you can do this with custom graphic radio buttons. If you set there icon IDs to the various states they will automatically function and only let you have one pushed down at a time. At 09:41 PM 2/5/2006, you wrote: Hello All, I want to reproduce a radio-button group behaviour, but with push buttons. I.e., only one push button of a group of push button can appear hilited (recessed?) at a time. BTW, the Archive Search plugih, which usually works -- and very well at that! -- doesn't appear to be working. It's now returning empty search results continually. Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Richard- Monday, February 13, 2006, 12:03:55 PM, you wrote: I was hoping to avoid participating in this discussion here and this will be my only post on the subject, but it's worth noting that there's really no hacking going on here. The problem is less with Richmond's poor judgment than with the unconventional way RunRev is updating their site: I reluctantly have to agree with Richard on this. There's enough blame and enough finger-pointing to go around, but in general it's bad form to take down a web site for a few days with nothing but a 404 page that says come back in a few hours and put up half-contructed new pages that replace the ones that were previously there. Normally the new content is constructed and the switch-over isn't done until it's ready to go. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: launch Outlook
I do this for work... The way I do it, because I need to include lots of formatting and links, is to have outlook already open while Rev creates a .doc file with all of the proper coding to be an MS-word file that automatically launches as an outlook email. Then, launch the .doc file and it will automatically open in outlook. Works perfect for me. On 2/13/06, Till Bandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an eMail (with or without annexes) Till Am 13.02.2006 um 22:07 schrieb Ken Ray: On 2/13/06 3:02 PM, Till Bandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to launch a Outlook document from Revolution. An Outlook document? Can you clarify what you mean by that? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 04:45 pm, Scott Kane wrote: By-By DreamCard? Is there really a market for it anyway? I mean, apart from education most people want to compile binaries... How about in-house software developers? If you only need to produce software to ease your own workflow, you don't really need binaries do you? Dreamcard fits in perfectly here. Rishi Viner. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Ken Apthorpe wrote:
I wanted a pulldown menu button to go into a stack menu; the submenu items
are to open cards in the mainstack. The here is what the Docs say about the
message for a submenu item:
menuPick chosenItem[|submenuName],previousTab
on menuPick theItem -- in a pulldown menu
if theItem is Close then close the defaultStack
else if theItem is Quit then quit
end menuPick
This message is obviously for a main menu like File, where you want Close or
Quit. But its no help to me when I just want to open a card in the
mainstack. Also, do I insert it exactly as shown with [] around
submenuName? The docs don't say. And the vertical slash. It said
somewhere that on Mac I should do this with option-shift-L. But my keyboard
has a vertical slash key. When I do option-shift-L on my keyboard I get Ò.
So, do I use my slash, or not? And, what's that previousTab thing on the end
for??
Good points. The docs need to clearly describe the conventions that are
being used when documenting the dictionary entries. As you point out,
many of us are so used to these conventions that we don't even think
about it any more. What you are seeing is pretty standard for xtalk
documentation, but of course if you are a newcomer there is no way you'd
know that.
For reference:
Italics are used for parameters. Square brackets [] enclose optional
terms. You can either include or ignore them. Curly braces {} enclose a
group of terms from which you must pick one. In any group of terms, the
choices are separated from each other by a vertical bar | surrounded by
spaces. This last is important, because in the example you chose, there
is a vertical bar that is actually part of the parameter. (So good
choice. :))
These are for informational purposes only, and should not be included
when you are actually writing scripts. In the above example:
menupick -- is the name of the message that is sent
chosenItem -- is the placeholder for the first parameter that is sent
submenuName -- is enclosed in square brackets, so is optional. It may or
may not be sent, depending on if there are any submenus. It is separated
by a vertical bar, which normally would indicate one of several choices,
but because there are no spaces here, it is actually included along with
the text of the submenu parameter. Note that the descriptive text of
this particular dictionary entry also indicates that the vertical bar
itself will be included in the parameter if a submenu is chosen by the user.
previousTab -- is the placeholder for the last parameter that is sent.
The text of the dictionary entry indicates this one is only sent if the
menu object is a tabbed button -- that is, it is never sent by a regular
pulldown menu choice.
So, say I have a menu called Colors. There are lots of color names in
there. But because there are 100 grays, I make Gray a single menu item
with a submenu of all the 100 gray levels. When I choose Gray90 from
the submenu, my menupick message will be this:
menupick Colors|Gray90
The parameter shows that the Colors menu was chosen and the submenu
choice is separated from it by the bar.
All that being said, I usually just look at the examples and figure it
out. :)
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Re: Revolution RUMORS!
On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:12 PM, David Burgun wrote: [snip] Of course this could all be some kind of publicity stunt and RunRev and Richmond could be cahoots to fool us all into talking about it! Wheels within Wheels within Wheels... Oooo! Wheels in the sky by Journey! Rock on! -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Garrett Hylltun wrote: One other thing. The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but I believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder. I can easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few buttons and tools that I can open and close when needed, but with Rev, the many open windows and lack of a main editor window where I can access all the code of my project really throws me off. You might want to look at Constellation. It's not quite one big editor window - but it does feature one large window with multiple panes for different aspects of an IDE, and multiple tabbed pages for editing different scripts. http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/ Yeah, bought that last year also. At the time it made things worse for me. But I haven't run it again yet, so maybe I should give it a try again. :-) In fact, it had thrown me so much that I just gave up on Rev last month. But a few days I go I decided to give it one last try. This time I'm getting along much better. Maybe a break from it allowed me to let the IDE sink in or something. Oh - I give up on it every other month - but I always come back :-) :-) Maybe the trend I'm going to run into also. ;-) -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMOURS!
From my rev key email: If you haven't already downloaded the latest version of Revolution, then please do so from here: http://downloads.runrev.com/revolution I needed to download a new copy to troubleshoot the bugs I was running into and so ... I went to the URL _that_revolution_sent_to_me_in_my_reg_key_email _ and I figured I might as well upgrade to 2.7 instead since it was available. So I clicked on the download link and got the never ending username/ password dialog and I too had to keep pressing cancel because my browser gave me no other option. Since the link was broken, I tried the FTP URL on that page and could see that 2.7 was not on the web site. So I downloaded 2.6 and 2.6.1 and went on with my day. To use the house analogy, the homeowner gave me instructions on how to get into his house and get stuff I was supposed to be able to get. I followed the homeowner's instructions and saw things that perhaps the homeowner might not want me to see, but since I was following the homeowner's instructions, I figured the news was public knowledge. All this fuss could have been avoided if the homeowner had locked the door that I had been told to use. I do not see Richmond as a villain in this situation. I see the revolution webmaster as being under-trained in how to keep private information private on a public server. Kee Nethery On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Mathewson wrote: I quote: Version 2.7 is available for download here: http://downloads.runrev.com This update release brings new features and improvements to the best programming environment around. * New object blending capabilities. All objects, including standard system controls such as buttons and fields, as well as media elements such as QuickTime movies, can now be rendered using a rich variety of blend modes and opacity settings. * Over 20 brand new blend modes. Includes the industry standard porter-duff and SVG compositing operators. * Window level transitions. Now you can perform transitions with alpha channels on an entire window, allowing effects such as rippling applications on the desktop. * New image rendering options. Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. * Anti-aliasing Graphics Engine. Revolution?s vector graphics presentation layer is now anti-aliased. * Multi-monitor Support. Revolution solutions can now be built to support multiple monitors, including different backdrops on each monitor. * Enhanced QuickTime performance. Allows smoother playback and the ability to move movies live during playback. * Enhanced dynamic scripting. Preserves state across recompilation, allowing for faster debugging. * New Installer with Roll-Back capability. Roll-Back allows you to install newer versions of Revolution as they become available, and go back to any previously installed version. Auto-updater downloads only what has changed, making it quick and easy to try out the latest version. * Improved printing. Quality has been improved when printing complex documents containing text and certain types of image. * All new documentation including brand new PDF User?s Guide, rewritten to describe the entire product - complete with many new examples. * A number of bug fixes and stability improvements have been included. New features in Revolution Media: All the Templates in Revolution Media feature a simple point-and-click interface, making it easy for you to create stunning multimedia quickly and easily. * Slide Show Template. Create digital slide show projects with custom transition effects. Then open your slide show and add custom features. * Portfolio Builder Template. Create portfolio projects to showcase your work, add in your contact details, and deliver to friends or clients. * Kiosk Builder Template. Build interactive kiosks for use in touchscreen information systems - for in museums, shopping centers and more. * Adventure Game Builder Template. Build a walk-through adventure game from your rendered 3D scenes. Then add puzzles, logic and special features. More complete information about Revolution 2.7 can be found in the Revolution change log file which also accompanies the release. The Revolution Advantage * Create standalone applications - easily! * Easy, English like programming language * Drag and drop interface objects * 90% less programming time compared with a language such as Java * Single code and test environment * No more waiting while an application compiles * Write once, run anywhere * Correct, native appearance and behavior for all platforms - including Mac Windows XP Themes, Mac OS X and Linux GTK themes * Royalty-free distribution If your Revolution license is current, this upgrade is free! Just download it, and unlock with your existing license. If you don't yet have a Revolution license, we
Re: Constellation
Is it ok to talk about Constellation on this list, or should it go to the Constellation list? I'm asking both Rev and Constellation people, and anyone else who wants to chime in. Mark On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:26 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote: http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/ Yeah, bought that last year also. At the time it made things worse for me. But I haven't run it again yet, so maybe I should give it a try again. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?
Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It's a question of productivity, of the tradeoffs between hand-coded tight HTML vs. rapid development. And most of the code is the same, whether generated by hand or by machine. p is p whether typed by hand or generated. I have to disagree. Just about all WYSIWYG html editors are prone to code trashing and adding unnecessary code. Download any of those editors and create a page with them, and of course create the same page by hand code. Then compare them in code and file size. You'll see what I mean. Of course hand-edited code will usually be tighter. The question is whether the greater time required to hand-write the code is really worth a difference that is often marginal if both methods are done well. Code generators often rely on generalization, and generalization done well will mean more error-checking, which of course means more code. But generalization is not always a bad thing, and is often a very useful thing. When you break out a block of inline Transcript statements into a reusable handler, much as the JS libs in DW or GL do for their code, you introduce a modest performance loss in the lookup for that handler as well as the need to error-check params. But over the course of the project is the time saved during development and maintenance worth the performance hit? The literature on design patterns suggests it often is. Of course the performance hit with JavaScript will be far greater than with nearly any other scripting language, since it's a half-baked language encumbered with semi-typed data and a structure based on compiler design and not optimized for interpretation. But still, with slow machines running at 1GHz today, the worst offending sites with load times are more a function of the design than the underlying code. Many will use different code, or even MS specific only codes. Using MS-specific code isn't a problem with generation tools as a whole, it simply means that the specific tool in question was created either by idiots or people with a vested interest in Micro$oft's vain attempt to control the Internet. Good tools reinforce the central premise of the web, that it's platform-independent. Intranets not withstanding, any deviance from that is simply poor design, whether by hand or by machine. I've seen a good many hand-coded pages that pretend the world is run by Microsoft, more so than the platform-independent code generated by DW and GL. To my knowledge only Microsoft tools attempt to trick the unwitting developer into believing that Microsoft-specific code is anything less than a stupid thing to force onto one's visitors, ever more so as Internet Exploder's marketshare continues to decline in favor or more standards-compliant alternatives like Firefox. Or do something like div span instead of p or even several br tags instead. Many will inject css when it's not even needed, just adding more the bulk of the code it will produce. If you haven't played with the latest versions of these tools, in the hands of an experienced developer you might be surprised to see some of the good work that can be done with them. Sure, I still consider it essential to know HTML and be prepared to tweak generated code as needed; UI gestures simply don't lend themselves to the full range of decisions one can make with HTML. But by and large, by the time one adds the necessary browser-checking code needed for good rendering across all browsers and platforms, the net difference in code is more a question of style than size. If it isn't, in some cases it may simply mean the hand-written code isn't as thorough as the generated code designed by teams of some of the most experienced engineers at Adobe and Macromedia. One could argue that all C++ introduced over C was the insertion of orders of magnitude more JSR statements into the object code. But of course that's only one view, a view that overlooks the productivity benefits of OOP. One could make a similar comparison of C vs. Assembler, or to bring it back home, of Transcript vs. any lower level alternative. Comparing hand coded html to the use of a WYSIWYG editor with C++ and C doesn't even equate. True in the purest sense; as Aristotle said, ultimately every metaphor breaks down because it's an approximation of what's being discussed and not the thing itself. But in spite of the comparative impurity, C++ does introduce a tremendous number of JSRs into one's object code, with the result that equivalent functionality implemented in straight C will often be faster and have a smaller file size. Users often bemoan that apps are bloated today over what was being turned out 20 years ago, but that misses the bigger point: features. It would be a special form of hell on earth to try to implement modern application architectures in straight C, and prohibitively expensive
Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:01:24 -0800, kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using Revolution 2.6 on Mac OS X I am experiencing the exact same thing. Figured it might be something wonky about my installation so I downloaded a new copy, nuked the old copy and the new copy has the same problem. A wipe and re-install has not solved it for me. Kee Nethery On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now inexplicably when trying to copy text from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using control c. The copy function still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both keyboard and menu mode. Anyone have any idea why this might happen? Any fixes other than a wipe and re-install? I get this a lot, and have done on earlier versions of Rev (I'm on 2.6.1 also), but it normally goes away when I restart Rev. I came to the conclusion that I have to run a script of my own under the IDE before the problem appears, but I've never been able to find a repeatable formula so I haven't tried to Bugzilla it. Recently it seems to be less prevalent, tho I haven't deliberately changed anything in the environment. Are you sure that the problem occurs before you run any script of your own - I mean if you just download the .rev file you're working on and try to use Cmd-C in editing a script without ever switching to the browse tool at all? It would be nice to pin this down... Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution RUMORS!
Hi Folks, Well, as you are all probably very much aware by now, we do indeed have a new release for you. Unfortunately the office Internet has been on the blink for a few hours, so we haven't been able to upload it. You will need to wait a bit longer. In the mean time, I'd ask people to stop speculating or digging around on the site, and wait patiently. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rendering Text
I have an solution that I'm trying to put together that will serve as a slate generator for our video production company. Basically a slate is a series of frames that count down (10 to 2) that is placed just before a commercial. This slate has all the information needed to identify a spot. What I need to do is to use this sequence of images as a background and render text on top based on information entered in various fields. The roadblock I'm running into is the actual rendering of the text on an image and then saving it. It occurred to me that it could be relatively easy to do a screen grab of the area, then rename that file and so forth, but I can't figure out how to do this. Ideally I would not have to depend on screen grabs and it would be great to just generate the frames and save them internally. I'm very new to RR so if anyone has any pointers on how to do this I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks!! Wally ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Started with a Database
May I also suggest you get a copy of the donationware CocoaMySQL: http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/ It makes it extremely easy to determine if your MySQL is set up correctly - although if it isn't you still have to nut out what the problem is. Best of all it makes it very easy to create/modify quick 'test' (or in use) dbs,tables,fields,records. Once you know the db exists and can be communicated with correctly getting Rev to talk to the db I think you'll find is relatively simple. HTH PS As far as cheap and easy dbs MySQL + Rev gets two thumbs up. I am currently working on Valentina 1.11 + Rev but have run into some problems which I will probably be posting about shortly - just one more line of trouble shooting to follow before I seek profesional help from the list:-). AltSQLite I can't comment on because my definition of cheap is $0 but once I get Valentina working I am hoping to give the AltSQLite Demo stack a whirl, just for the experience,but at the end of the day I can't justify the price - my dbs are all for me, if I actualy made dbs for other people I'd probably have a completely different answer. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time-limit demo
Thanks Ken and William, My situation calls for a different approach though, as I don't build for each client. And I also would like something that tracks the time limit outside of the app/stack itself, as it would be easy to just reinstall the software to get an extension on the time limit. I know there's some controversy over using invisible files to store such information - anyone care to comment? I know how to create one on a Mac, what about a PC? Thanks, Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
breaking currentTime into minutes, seconds, and frames
I'm sure this has been done so many times so I thought I would ask. (I've searched everywhere I can find) When getting currentTime of a QT movie, you get an integer which is the current frame. This gets minutes: put minutes: (curTime - (curTime mod 1800))/1800 into curMin What I'm trying to get is: mm:ss:ff minutes:seconds:frames (like: 1:34.23) My brain hurts. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
