Re: [ANN] Brand NEW altBrowser2!!! Neat new capabilities.

[Judy Perry]

Chipp,

I'm not seeing the pricing info...

Where is it?

Thanks!

Judy

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Just thought you all would be the first to know!
>  From the website:
> http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm
>
> New promotional pricing available for a limited time.

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Re: A Constellation Problem - of my own making

[Chipp Walters]

Michael,

try this in the message box:

set the topLeft of stack "revConstellation" to the screenloc

That should move it so you can resize it.

-Chipp

Michael Mandaville wrote:

Tim,

As far as I can tell, you described the problem quite accurately.   The
Constellation top is tucked under the Revolution/Mac OSX menubar at the top
so I can't drag it anywhere.

I'm on a 14" Mac Powerbook too

And when I restart it goes right under the menu bar as well.


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[ANN] Brand NEW altBrowser2!!! Neat new capabilities.

[Chipp Walters]

Just thought you all would be the first to know!
From the website:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm

New promotional pricing available for a limited time.

---
Completely new version of altBrowser for Mac and PC. New features include:

• Embed a fully functional browser substack in your current application 
with a single click. No more fussing with libraries as the substack is 
completely self-contained.
• Brand new DEMO tutorial stack walks you through setting up altBrowser 
and it's functions. Also, updates existing externals and itself!
• New browser substack streamlined for ease of use and ease of 
customization. The new simplified scripts are documented well and easily 
modified.
• Now, for the first time, altBrowser can have multiple instances— each 
with their own browser ID! You can create your own tabbed browser if you 
like!
• Multiple enhancements and fixes from previous versions of altBrowser. 
No more jumping through hoops to set the external. Mac and PC versions 
are more alike than ever before.

• Mac version now automatically loads PDF and Flash documents.

It will only take 5 minutes to make you a believer in altBrowser2!

Check out our demo stack. It shows you step-by-step how easy it is to 
add a REAL BROWSER to your Rev project. There are demonstrations for 
Flash, PDF, and even an embedded fancy AJAX/Javascript app (you'll have 
to see to believe!;-).


To view the demo, all you have to do is launch Revolution and and copy 
and paste the below script into your message box:


go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altbrowser/altBrowserLauncher.rev";

then hit enter. Please be patient while the demo stack loads. Once 
loaded, you may wish to save it. Then just follow the instructions and 
you're on your way to finding out all about the new altBrowser2!


Don't worry, the Demo stack will install all the externals necessary!

---

best,

Chipp

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Re: implementing a search function

[Ken Ray]

On 2/28/06 11:55 PM, "N Cueto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I'd like to make a search function
> similar to the one for the Rev docs,
> i.e., as letter by letter is typed
> in the "search" field, the indexed
> list automatically jumps to the
> corresponding alphabetical location.

See:

"List Fields: Scrolling to a Line on Keypress"
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/fld003.htm

:-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Print from TL to BR - doesn't

[J. Landman Gay]

Hershel Fisch wrote:


On mouseUp
  set the backgroundcolor of me to white
  set the printmargins to 72,72,72,72
  --answer printer
  print me from  topLeft to bottomRight
End mouseUp


There's the problem, in the last line. You need:

  print this cd from (the topLeft of this cd) to (the bottomRight of 
this cd)


I don't think you want to use "me" here, if this is a button script. You 
probably want to print the card, so you have to refer to "this card" 
specifically.


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Re: Accelerator key navigation & Win XP

[J. Landman Gay]

Judy Perry wrote:

Hello,

One of my students just asked me about this strange behavior and I told
him I'd ask all of you.

He's on XP and trying to use the accelerator-key navigation funtionality
from the View -> Go First, Go Previous, Go last...

He says that it will work a few times, then stop working and lock up; he
says further that sometimes he can get out of this state by first clicking
on the single-line icon in the message box, then the multiple-line icon,
then again the single-line icon, but sometimes that doesn't even work.

He's using I believe XP and Rev 2.7.

Does this ring any bells anywhere?


I haven't heard of this particular one, but it sounds a little like the 
Command-key dropout that happens sometimes with Cmd/Ctrl-C and 
Cmd/Ctrl-V, etc. Sometimes these menu shortcuts just stop being 
recognized. The student's clever use of the message box to get 
functionality back should  be worth some extra credit I think, because 
most people just relaunch Rev to get it working again.


This has been happening forever and ever to some people, some of the 
time, for some of the versions, under circumstances that no one can 
repeat reliably, depending on something no one can identify. That's all 
anyone knows about it.


If he can come up with a reliable recipe...

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implementing a search function

[N Cueto]

Hello All,

I'd like to make a search function
similar to the one for the Rev docs,
i.e., as letter by letter is typed
in the "search" field, the indexed
list automatically jumps to the
corresponding alphabetical location.

Problem is... I've no idea how this
works!

Many thanks in advance.

(And sorry to sound like a broken
record about this but the Archive
Search plugin is still returning
empty searches. I'm wondering if
this is somehow related to recent
RunRev changes...)

Cheers,
Nicolas Cueto
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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jim Ault]

On 2/28/06 8:01 PM, "Jim Lambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally I prefer the itemcount technique.
> 
Caution when counting words, items, lines in xtalk.
Using either "the number of lines in"
or "for each" can give unexpected results.

If the last character in a field is a return, the last line is empty and
DOES NOT COUNT.  The same for ("," items) and (" " words)

Using "& null" will work for words/items/lines
and give you what you would want in most cases.
See below.

Paste the following into a new mainstack stack script, dblclk and study the
difference.
---start copy --
on mouseDoubleUp
  put "one,two,three,four," into txtList --note last comma
  replace "," with cr in txtList
  
   usual 2 methods ...oops
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in txtList
put "x is " & x into line x of withXresult
  end repeat

  repeat for each line LNN in txtList
put "money" & cr after forEachResult
  end repeat
  
--- Ahh, more like what we naturally think
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in (txtList & null)
put "x is " & x into line x of withXnullResult
  end repeat
  
repeat for each line LNN in (txtList & null)
put "money" & cr after forEachNullResult
  end repeat
---
breakpoint
--note the resultant variables in variable watcher

--withXresult = 4 lines
--forEachResult = 4 lines

--withXnullResult = 5 lines
--forEachNullResult = 5 lines & more money

--basically, if the last word/item/line is empty it does not count
--adding null forces it to count

end mouseDoubleUp
---end copy ---

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Crash bug, edit Text

[bryan]

Just to follow-up on the OSX crashing bug reported with editing text sounds 
very similar to my
experience on WinXP with 2.7. Mycrash log simply reports an exception error so 
it doesn't seem
terribly helpful in tracking down what is happening. Anyway, I'm dealing with 
support on it but it
seems the issue is multi-platform and not just a WinXP problem.
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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Stephen Barncard]

There really is a NULL constant!! cool!
sqb


On 2/28/06 3:57 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I like the idea of using itemdel as a means of counting - very clever...

 I was thinking there must be some other immediate means of counting?


How about this one?

function CountChars pString,pChar
  replace space with null in pString
  replace pChar with space in pString
  return ((the number of words of pString)-1)
end CountChars

Ken Ray


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Re: More e-mail troubles

[J. Landman Gay]

Bob Warren wrote:

Dear Jacque,

Thanks very much for the info, you have certainly put my mind at rest 
regarding the possibility of a virus/hacker attack and/or the 
possibility of giving RunRev a bad name by sending unwanted List e-mails 
all over the world.


No problem. But we do want to talk to you about the email you've been 
sending regarding that rich Nigerian guy offering a low mortgage rate to 
people with pharmacies.


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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Ken Ray]

> function CountChars pString,pChar
>   replace space with null in pString
>   replace pChar with space in pString
>   return ((the number of words of pString)-1)
> end CountChars

Whoops! Forgot to make sure it counts right if the first or last char is the
match char:

function CountChars pString,pChar
  replace space with null in pString
  replace pChar with space in pString
  put ((the number of words of pString)-1) into tNumChars
  if char 1 of pString = space then add 1 to tNumChars
  if char -1 of pString = space then add 1 to tNumChars
  return tNumChars
end CountChars


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Ken Ray]

On 2/28/06 3:57 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like the idea of using itemdel as a means of counting - very clever...
> 
> I was thinking there must be some other immediate means of counting?

How about this one?

function CountChars pString,pChar
  replace space with null in pString
  replace pChar with space in pString
  return ((the number of words of pString)-1)
end CountChars


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: A Constellation Problem - of my own making

[Marty Knapp]

Richard Gaskin's utilities include a nice one (among others) called 
Deskview that makes it easy to move windows like this--




Marty Knapp


Tim,

As far as I can tell, you described the problem quite accurately.   The
Constellation top is tucked under the Revolution/Mac OSX menubar at 
the top

so I can't drag it anywhere.

I'm on a 14" Mac Powerbook too

And when I restart it goes right under the menu bar as well.

Michael 



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Re: A Constellation Problem - of my own making

[Timothy Miller]

Tim,

As far as I can tell, you described the problem quite accurately.   The
Constellation top is tucked under the Revolution/Mac OSX menubar at the top
so I can't drag it anywhere.

I'm on a 14" Mac Powerbook too

And when I restart it goes right under the menu bar as well.

Michael




You mean the draggable tops remain under the OS menubar after you restart Rev?

If so, I don't know if you're a Jedi Knight or a newbie. Not to 
condescend, but you know how to write a script or type a line into 
the msg box to move the windows down a bit? If not, do speak up.


BTW, my desktop machine has a larger monitor, but it's still 1024 X 
768. The problem doesn't seem to occur on the desktop machine. 
Mysterious...


Cheers,


Tim
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Re: search scripts for string

[Richard Gaskin]

Preston Shea wrote:
> I seem to remember a something (third party? sample script?)
> somewhere to search all the scripts in a stack for a text
> string. Does anyone know where this gem might be?

There's one in devolution:



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... how could one create a customized object ... ? (was something else)

[Dick Kriesel]

On 2/28/06 9:37 AM, "Jonathan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A 3D object viewer probably would not work in transcript, because of the
> intensive processing required to render an image. So, how could one create a
> customized object of that sort?

Jonathan's question in another thread deserves its own thread.

-- Dick


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RE: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jim Lambert]

If you go the route of counting through each character vs. the clever
itemcount technique, and if there are a number of lines in the string you
want to parse, then you might save some time by filtering the lines for your
target character.

If you're looking to count a's then

filter myString with "*a*"

In this way, you'd almost instantly eliminate all lines that don't contain
"a".
This leaves you with a shorter string to iterate through.

Personally I prefer the itemcount technique.

Jim Lambert

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Re: More e-mail troubles

[Bob Warren]

Hi Bill!

Naturally, without being able to investigate further (and probably not 
having the knowledge) I cannot begin to diagnose the problem with your 
e-mail. However, my own experience might be relevant in some way.


When Rev "upgraded" their server last July, e-mails sent to me, 
particularly the U-R Lists, got bounced by my service provider. After a 
long investigation on my part, I managed to discover the reason. 
Roughly, it was this. My own e-mail server is old-fashioned (but 
normally reliable). But if it receives e-mails sent to the IP of my site 
domain (www.howsoft.com) rather than the IP of my e-mail server, it 
tries to bounce them. It appears that more modern receiving servers 
recognise this problem and make the necessary adjustments to get around 
it automatically. My old server, no. However, there is little doubt 
about the fact that what is involved is a configuration problem on the 
part of the sending server (i.e. RunRev in this case). This is proved by 
the fact that I never had any problem receiving e-mails from other 
sources using the same account. I still use it for all normal 
communications, without any problem at all.


I put this case to RunRev, but since it had not appeared in Bugzilla and 
been voted for by enough users (not true, I'm joking), they didn't want 
to take it further. So to be able to receive communications reliably 
from RunRev I was obliged to set up a new account using a different and 
more modern service provider to get around the problem. This is why 
although everybody else in the world sends their e-mails to my site at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , everybody at Rev and on this list knows me as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Hope this helps.

Regards,
Bob



>I also am reluctant to bring this to the list's attention, but I have 
>not received any emails from RunRev -- no mailing list, no replies to 
>support emails, no announcements (if there were any), and no trial 
>keys. I am able to post here only because the gmane system is working. 
>I have triple-checked my spam folders and email filters. I don't know 
>if the problem is two-way. My next step was to give RunRev a phone 
call >but so far I haven't found a few free minutes due to the time 
>difference. I just wanted others to know they're not alone having this 
>problem... and to ask RunRev to look into it, please, as this is the 
>only way besides an int'l call that seems to be working to reach you.


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Re: Print from topLeft to rightBottom

[Sarah Reichelt]

On 2/27/06, Hershel Fisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I trying to print
> On mouseUp
> Print this cd from topLeft to rightBottom
> End mouseUp
>
> I get an error
>   executing at 5:28:58 PM
> Typeprint: coordinate not a point
> ObjectPrint
> Lineprint cd from topLeft to righBottom
> HinttopLeft
>

Every object has the properties "topleft" and "bottomRight". You need
to specify which object's properties you want to use to limit the
printing.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Creating cards

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I created a function to add a named card to a stack like this:
>
> function addCard cardname
>   create card cardname
> end addCard
>
> When I run it from the message box like this: addCard("AnotherCard"), it 
> creates the new card twice!
>
> Before I run this function, the 'cardnames' of my stack looks like this:
>
> MyFirstCard
>
> Afterwards, it looks like this:
>
> MyFirstCard
> AnotherCard
> AnotherCard
>
> Any ideas why it creates the new card twice?

Are you using Constellation? I had a feeling one time that it was
doing things twice if I called a function from it's message box, but
when I checked, I decided I must have been imagining things :-)

To test, make a button and use it to call your function.

Sarah
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Re: Print from TL to BR - doesn't

[Phil Davis]

In your usage here, Hershel, topLeft and bottomRight will be considered 
either unquoted literals or empty containers. There is nothing about 
them that refers to the card.


Try this instead:
print me from the topLeft of me to the bottomRight of me

I could be mistaken, but I think that's the problem.

Phil Davis



Hershel Fisch wrote:

On 2/28/06 3:56 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



What script are you using? The term "coordinates" is not a Transcript
term, you'll need a set of numbers instead like "10,10" or "250,157".
But show us your script and we can help.




On mouseUp
  set the backgroundcolor of me to white
  set the printmargins to 72,72,72,72
  --answer printer
  print me from  topLeft to bottomRight
End mouseUp


 executing at 6:45:16 PM
Typeprint: coordinate not a point
Objectpcf
Lineprint me from  topLeft to bottomRight
HinttopLeft


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Re: More e-mail troubles

[Bob Warren]

Dear Jacque,

Thanks very much for the info, you have certainly put my mind at rest 
regarding the possibility of a virus/hacker attack and/or the 
possibility of giving RunRev a bad name by sending unwanted List e-mails 
all over the world. It's just that I've never seen it before, even 
though I've participated on the U-R List on quite a number of occasions.


As for the mystery of Support not answering my e-mails, I have always 
sent my messages directly to Heather, and she has never suggested I 
should use  instead. Next time, I'll use this 
address and see if I get a bit more joy.


Best regards, and thanks again.

Bob

J. Landman Gay wrote:


Bob Warren wrote:


Dear Jacque,

I'm teribly sorry, but when your e-mail arrived in my Mail Washer, I 
was so anxious to see it that I accidentally erased it! And I don't 
know whether you also sent it to the U-R List, that I have not 
received yet.


At the expense of trying your patience, would you mind sending it again?



LOL! People aren't usually so excited to hear from me. :) You're 
right, I sent it to both you and the list, and I don't mind at all 
sending it again. Here's a copy.


By the way, it appears that some others aren't getting regular list 
mail either, so there may be a glitch in the system somewhere. I'm not 
on digest and my copies of list mail are coming in quite regularly, 
but maybe the digest function is lagging.


Jacque

***
Bob Warren wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I would not normally dream of trying to deal with an administrative
> problem on this List, but it seems that all communication with 
Technical

> Support has been cut off. I have been unable to get a word out of them
> for the last 10 days (and even then it was only one word).
>
> I have tried sending copies of my e-mails to Mark Chia and to Kevin,
> with no result.
>
> My aim in sending details of my difficulty to the List is 2-fold:
>
> 1) Presuming that there is some good technical reason for my
> communication cutoff, perhaps someone in Technical Support will see it
> and give me an answer.
>
> 2) Regarding the possibility that my computer might have been attacked
> by a Use-Revolution-List-specific virus or even a hacker, perhaps
> someone can give me advice on what to do, especially if they have had a
> similar experience. This is the most urgent part.
>
> Since sending the e-mails below, I suddenly received all the 
outstanding

> U-R Lists in one great dollop.
>
> Hoping someone can clarify.

I just did a search of the support database and could not find any
messages from you within the last two months, so it appears your emails
aren't getting through (or my search skills are suspect.) The address is
. I assume that is where you sent your inquiries,
but just in case, double-check. Tech support *always* responds, usually
within 2 days, so if you haven't received a response after, say, four
days (which would be a very long time) then you can be pretty sure your
message never arrived. Don't send to Kevin or Mark -- your note will get
lost in a huge sea of correspondence.

> However, something somewhere is sending copies of my e-mails to
 > other people (with apparently normal accounts) in other parts of
 > the world. I know this because I have received messages back telling
 > me that the person's mailbox is full, or that their anti-spam filter
 > doesn't recognise me as a "friend" and they need me to confirm that
 > I really did send them the message (which I didn't, of course).

What you are receiving from "strangers" is just a normal bounce that is
routine for this type of mailing list. When you send a note to the list,
the server copies it to everyone. Some people's mailboxes are full, or
they have an auto-responder that sends back a boilerplate message. These
bounces are not routed back to the main mailing list (which would cause
an infinite loop of send-bounce-send-bounce,) but a copy *is* sent to
the original poster (unfortunately, that's just how these lists work.)

That's why if you go on vacation you should turn off any auto-responders
from your own mailbox or else temporarily suspend mailing lists, because
everyone who happens to write to the list will receive your
auto-response after every message they send. I have been deleting
multiple auto-responders recently, as one particular list member forgot
to turn off his list mail before he left town. Sometimes Heather will
notice these and turn off that person's list delivery temporarily, but
other times we just have to toss out those responses ourselves.

They are nothing to worry about and they mean nothing; they are a
routine bounce from the list server. Just delete them. (Actually, what
I've done is set up a mail filter that automatically routes these to my
mail trash.)




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Re: More e-mail troubles

[Judy Perry]

I've also had this problem recently; I think it took something like 10
days to get added to the improve-list.  But I was finally added.

OTOH, I've also had 24-hour turn-around with I think it's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in making purchases for my students.

Judy

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

> Yesterday I was contacted by a new Rev user who said he was waiting
> for his approval for the mailing list and was not able to use the
> mailing list yet.  I have yet to see him on this list to ask the
> questions he has (totally unsure how he got my email address and
> related it to being a rev user).
>
> Is this related to the above?  Or does someone at RunRev actually
> approve requests to subscribe to the mailing list (if yes, then that
> would explain why he's not able to use the list yet.)?

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Accelerator key navigation & Win XP

[Judy Perry]

Hello,

One of my students just asked me about this strange behavior and I told
him I'd ask all of you.

He's on XP and trying to use the accelerator-key navigation funtionality
from the View -> Go First, Go Previous, Go last...

He says that it will work a few times, then stop working and lock up; he
says further that sometimes he can get out of this state by first clicking
on the single-line icon in the message box, then the multiple-line icon,
then again the single-line icon, but sometimes that doesn't even work.

He's using I believe XP and Rev 2.7.

Does this ring any bells anywhere?

Thanks,

Judy

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Re: Print from TL to BR - doesn't

[Hershel Fisch]

On 2/28/06 3:56 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> What script are you using? The term "coordinates" is not a Transcript
> term, you'll need a set of numbers instead like "10,10" or "250,157".
> But show us your script and we can help.


On mouseUp
  set the backgroundcolor of me to white
  set the printmargins to 72,72,72,72
  --answer printer
  print me from  topLeft to bottomRight
End mouseUp


 executing at 6:45:16 PM
Typeprint: coordinate not a point
Objectpcf
Lineprint me from  topLeft to bottomRight
HinttopLeft


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Re: Graphics , Objects and Controls

[Wally Rodriguez]

I would definitely be interested in a package to create gauges and  
dials Scott. $40-50 would be a good range to start...


W.

On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Up until recently, some of these kinds of things have been a chore  
to create
due to lack of antialiasing.  Now with the release v2.7, creation  
of these

controls should be more doable.

Regards,


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Re: Pie Chart Algorithms?

[Sivakatirswami]

OK I probably posted too soon, this works great, and right, doesn't  
require Einstein...


--> all handlers

put 360/9 into tIncrement # nine sectors
put tIncrement into tSector
put  
"firebrick,darkred,brown4,red,green,yellow,blue,palegreen4,darkorchid1"  
into tColors

REPEAT with x = 1 to 9
put ("Circle" &x) into tNextSector
put tNextSector
create graphic tNextSector
set the rect of grc tNextSector to 80,80,336,336
set the style of grc tNextSector to oval
set the startAngle of grc tNextSector to tSector
set the arcAngle of grc tNextSector to tIncrement
set the loc of grc tNextSector to (the width of this card/ 
2,the height of this card/2)
set the backgroundcolor of grc tNextSector to (item x of  
tColors)

put tSector + tIncrement into tSector
END REPEAT
END mouseup


The only caveat I discovered that there was some unknown "condition"  
wherein the arc is drawn sans the radius lines... i.e you get just a  
curved line..a simple arc...   but, if I draw an oval manually and  
set it's arc angle one gets a complete "pie" cut polygon shape. And  
now my script only creates the full pie shape..


Can anyone tell us what determines whether full pie piece is drawn or  
just the arc without radius lines?


Sivakatirswami



On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

my math ability is similary ehm... handicaped, but i would do it  
with some oval graphics,
all at the same loc, and calculate their "startangle" and  
"arcangle" :-)


Seems pretty easy, even to me :-D


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A Constellation Problem - of my own making

[Michael Mandaville]

Tim,

As far as I can tell, you described the problem quite accurately.   The
Constellation top is tucked under the Revolution/Mac OSX menubar at the top
so I can't drag it anywhere.

I'm on a 14" Mac Powerbook too

And when I restart it goes right under the menu bar as well.

Michael


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Re: search scripts for string

[J. Landman Gay]

Preston Shea wrote:

I seem to remember a something (third party? sample script?)
somewhere to search all the scripts in a stack for a text string.
Does anyone know where this gem might be? 


You can do it right from within Revolution. Choose "find and replace" 
from the bottom of the Edit menu. Choose the scope of the search (for 
example, "this stack".) Type in the string. Uncheck all the boxes except 
for "script". Then click "find".



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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jonathan Lynch]

I like the idea of using itemdel as a means of counting - very clever...

I was thinking there must be some other immediate means of counting?
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Re: More e-mail troubles

[Garrett Hylltun]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Bill Marriott wrote:

I also am reluctant to bring this to the list's attention, but I  
have not
received any emails from RunRev -- no mailing list, no replies to  
support
emails, no announcements (if there were any), and no trial keys. I  
am able


Yesterday I was contacted by a new Rev user who said he was waiting  
for his approval for the mailing list and was not able to use the  
mailing list yet.  I have yet to see him on this list to ask the  
questions he has (totally unsure how he got my email address and  
related it to being a rev user).


Is this related to the above?  Or does someone at RunRev actually  
approve requests to subscribe to the mailing list (if yes, then that  
would explain why he's not able to use the list yet.)?


-Garrett
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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Phil Davis]

Hi Todd,

By high & low ASCII you mean where numeric values can be 0 to 255, 
right?  This will work *IF* the 'caseSensitive' property makes A<>a:


set the caseSensitive to true
repeat for each char tChar in tDataContainer
  -- tally the occurrances of each char in an array
  add 1 to tCounts[tChar] -- no need to convert the char to a num
end repeat

After this finishes, 'the keys of tCounts' will be a list of all chars 
encountered in the data, and tCounts[] will give you the number 
of times that character occurred.


Otherwise you can work strictly with the ASCII values:

repeat for each char tChar in tDataContainer
  add 1 to tCounts[charToNum(tChar)]
end repeat


HTH -
Phil Davis



Todd Geist wrote:

Hello

I need to count the number of times a Character occurs in text  string. 
The character will be high or Low ASCII.  SO I need to input  the value 
as an ASCII value.


Anybody have any scripts that can get me started?


Thanks

Todd




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Re: More e-mail troubles

[J. Landman Gay]

Bill Marriott wrote:
I also am reluctant to bring this to the list's attention, but I have not 
received any emails from RunRev


I'll reply offlist, let's see if you get it.

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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Todd Geist]

Thanks!

Todd




On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote:

You know, you can use the numtochar and chartonum functions to go  
between

ascii/ansi numbers and the equivalent character.

like this

function NumCharsInString pAsciiChar pString
  put numtochar(pString) into tChar
  put 0 into tCount
  repeat for each char tCharToCheck in pString
if tChar = tCharToCheck then add 1 to tCount
  end repeat
  return tCount
end NumCharsInString


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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jim Ault]

On 2/28/06 1:27 PM, "Todd Geist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to count the number of times a Character occurs in text
> string. The character will be high or Low ASCII.  SO I need to input
> the value as an ASCII value.
> 
> Anybody have any scripts that can get me started?
> 
Perhaps you could try setting that char as the itemdel and getting the
number of items. Caution: note that the last char of the string could be a
hit, so you need to pad the string with one extra char to be accurate.

--make a new stack, paste the following into the stack script, dblclk
on mouseDoubleUp
  put "a" into hitt
  put "anohtalj az aja ljala  a" into txt
  set the itemdel to hitt
  get the number of items in (txt&hitt)
  answer it-1
  delete char -1 of txt
  get the number of items in (txt&hitt)
  answer it-1

  --"¼"
  put "¼" into hitt
  put "anohtalj ¼az aja ljala ¼ a¼" into txt
  set the itemdel to hitt
  get the number of items in (txt&hitt)
  answer it-1
  delete char -1 of txt
  get the number of items in (txt&hitt)
  answer it-1

end mouseDoubleUp

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jonathan Lynch]

oops, made a mistake...

I meant, like this

function NumCharsInString pAsciiChar,pString
  put numtochar(pString) into tChar
  put 0 into tCount
  repeat for each char tCharToCheck in pString
if tChar = tCharToCheck then add 1 to tCount
  end repeat
  return tCount
end NumCharsInString
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Re: Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Jonathan Lynch]

You know, you can use the numtochar and chartonum functions to go between
ascii/ansi numbers and the equivalent character.

like this

function NumCharsInString pAsciiChar pString
  put numtochar(pString) into tChar
  put 0 into tCount
  repeat for each char tCharToCheck in pString
if tChar = tCharToCheck then add 1 to tCount
  end repeat
  return tCount
end NumCharsInString


You would use this function in a script like this:

put field "my input field" into tString
put 28 into tAsciiChar -- (28 is one of the Ascii characters used for
delimiting data)
put NumCharsInString(tAsciiChar,tString) into tCharCount
answer tCharCount


Does that get you started?
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Re: Pie Chart Algorithms?

[Klaus Major]

Hi Swami,

OK, was musing to make a simple pie chart: make a circle and set up  
the center point as a fixed variable and the point on the circle as  
the dynamic variable and draw radius lines programatically: seems  
simple enough.. but:


1) draw circle graphic with shift key down to constrain to perfect  
circle

2) name it "oval1"
3) msg box: put the points of grc "oval1"

result: nothing

I'm missing something... Where to go from here? Obvious algorithms  
needed:


1) draw radius vectors e.g.

-- set the divisions to 10% (of the circle); draw nine vectors  
(where there are ten equal divisions)-- set initial vector to  
vertical (center to point 1 where point one is the exact top of the  
circle
-- add second vector at 30% off the circle (another line draw 30  
degrees off from the above radius )


2) fill resulting sectors (by script) with a color
3) find some point equidistant from the three points of a sector  
(for dropping in a label field programatically)


That's as far as I could "see" I sure others have invented this  
wheel a long time ago... my trigonometry is  a bit too weak for me  
to actually start writing the code from ground zero, but I could  
probably "get it" if I saw some basic scripts.


my math ability is similary ehm... handicaped, but i would do it with  
some oval graphics,

all at the same loc, and calculate their "startangle" and "arcangle" :-)

Seems pretty easy, even to me :-D


Meanwhile I'm off to dig the doc for related syntax.


Hope that wil get you started.


Sivakatirswami


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Pie Chart Algorithms?

[Dave Cragg]

On 28 Feb 2006, at 21:29, Sivakatirswami wrote:

OK, was musing to make a simple pie chart: make a circle and set up  
the center point as a fixed variable and the point on the circle as  
the dynamic variable and draw radius lines programatically: seems  
simple enough.. but:


1) draw circle graphic with shift key down to constrain to perfect  
circle

2) name it "oval1"
3) msg box: put the points of grc "oval1"

result: nothing

I'm missing something... Where to go from here?


You might want to look at the arcAngle and startAngle properties for  
ovals.


Cheers
Dave
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Re: DEADLY CRASH when editing text in Rev 2.7

[J. Landman Gay]

Stephen Barncard wrote:

Bad one this time - even tho I back up it's a hassle.

I've had this happen now about 5 times - and I can't give a recipe - but 
randomly Rev 2.7 will completely crash when cutting and pasting or 
editing text.

MacOS 10.4.4 Powerbook G4 1.33mhz 2gig ram 23" Cinema Display.

This time - I got the apple trap dialog - and cut and pasted the data 
into a text document. It's available for viewing at:


http://barncard.com/Rev27cutPaste-CrashReport.txt



These need to go to support or Bugzilla. We have another identical OS X 
crash reported there and they're working on it. It would be great if you 
could send this to support and include the crash log so that Mark can 
see it.


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Pie Chart Algorithms?

[Sivakatirswami]

OK, was musing to make a simple pie chart: make a circle and set up  
the center point as a fixed variable and the point on the circle as  
the dynamic variable and draw radius lines programatically: seems  
simple enough.. but:


1) draw circle graphic with shift key down to constrain to perfect  
circle

2) name it "oval1"
3) msg box: put the points of grc "oval1"

result: nothing

I'm missing something... Where to go from here? Obvious algorithms  
needed:


1) draw radius vectors e.g.

-- set the divisions to 10% (of the circle); draw nine vectors (where  
there are ten equal divisions) 
-- set initial vector to vertical (center to point 1 where point one  
is the exact top of the circle
-- add second vector at 30% off the circle (another line draw 30  
degrees off from the above radius )


2) fill resulting sectors (by script) with a color
3) find some point equidistant from the three points of a sector (for  
dropping in a label field programatically)


That's as far as I could "see" I sure others have invented this wheel  
a long time ago... my trigonometry is  a bit too weak for me to  
actually start writing the code from ground zero, but I could  
probably "get it" if I saw some basic scripts.


Meanwhile I'm off to dig the doc for related syntax.

Sivakatirswami


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Counting Chars by ASCI Values

[Todd Geist]

Hello

I need to count the number of times a Character occurs in text  
string. The character will be high or Low ASCII.  SO I need to input  
the value as an ASCII value.


Anybody have any scripts that can get me started?


Thanks

Todd


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Re: A Constellation problem-of my own making?

[Timothy Miller]

Revolutionaries,

I installed version 2.7 along with Constellation.   However, when I use
Constellation, the interface sticks to the top of the screen, covered up by
the Revolution Toolbar Text and Toolbar Icons pallettes.   I might have
inadvertently hit a button on Constellation that locks it into place?

The only way I can see the Constellation tabs is to turn off the Revolution
text and icon pallettes?

Yoda?  


Thanks,
Michael


Michael--

Are you on Mac OS X? If so, is the Constellation interface covered up 
by Rev's Toolbar Text and Toolbar Icons, or is it actually covered up 
by the OS's native menubar?


If the latter, I've been having a similar problem on my 14 inch 
1024X768 laptop. The tops of the inspector window and/or revtools 
window sometimes get tucked under the Macintosh menubar, so I can't 
drag them down. I can type a line into the msg box to relocate them 
-- if I an remember their names. Otherwise I have to restart Rev. I'm 
not putting them there -- they seem to jump up there all by 
themselves. I got so sick of it that I made a button to relocate 
them, and stuck it in various places around the stacks I use 
frequently.


I don't recall this ever happened in 2.6.x, so it might be a little 
bug. I've BZ'd it, FWIW.


Could this be your "issue" also?

Viva la revolucion,

Tim
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Re: A Constellation problem-of my own making?

[Mark Talluto]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Michael Mandaville wrote:


Revolutionaries,

I installed version 2.7 along with Constellation.   However, when I  
use
Constellation, the interface sticks to the top of the screen,  
covered up by
the Revolution Toolbar Text and Toolbar Icons pallettes.   I might  
have

inadvertently hit a button on Constellation that locks it into place?

The only way I can see the Constellation tabs is to turn off the  
Revolution

text and icon pallettes?



My first guess is that you need to size the Con window a bit  
smaller.  If you can't get at it, just hide the Mac menubar and bring  
it down.




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DEADLY CRASH when editing text in Rev 2.7

[Stephen Barncard]

Bad one this time - even tho I back up it's a hassle.

I've had this happen now about 5 times - and I can't give a recipe - 
but randomly Rev 2.7 will completely crash when cutting and pasting 
or editing text.

MacOS 10.4.4 Powerbook G4 1.33mhz 2gig ram 23" Cinema Display.

This time - I got the apple trap dialog - and cut and pasted the data 
into a text document. It's available for viewing at:


http://barncard.com/Rev27cutPaste-CrashReport.txt

--
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s a n  f r a n c i s c o
- - -  - - - - - - - - -
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A Constellation problem-of my own making?

[Michael Mandaville]

Revolutionaries,

I installed version 2.7 along with Constellation.   However, when I use
Constellation, the interface sticks to the top of the screen, covered up by
the Revolution Toolbar Text and Toolbar Icons pallettes.   I might have
inadvertently hit a button on Constellation that locks it into place?

The only way I can see the Constellation tabs is to turn off the Revolution
text and icon pallettes?

Yoda?   

Thanks,
Michael


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Re: More e-mail troubles

[Bill Marriott]

I also am reluctant to bring this to the list's attention, but I have not 
received any emails from RunRev -- no mailing list, no replies to support 
emails, no announcements (if there were any), and no trial keys. I am able 
to post here only because the gmane system is working. I have triple-checked 
my spam folders and email filters. I don't know if the problem is two-way. 
My next step was to give RunRev a phone call but so far I haven't found a 
few free minutes due to the time difference. I just wanted others to know 
they're not alone having this problem... and to ask RunRev to look into it, 
please, as this is the only way besides an int'l call that seems to be 
working to reach you.

Bill
wjm(at)wjm.org
runrev(at)wjm.org

"Bob Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> I would not normally dream of trying to deal with an administrative 
> problem on this List, but it seems that all communication with Technical 
> Support has been cut off. I have been unable to get a word out of them for 
> the last 10 days (and even then it was only one word).



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Re: Print from TL to BR - doesn't

[J. Landman Gay]

Hershel Fisch wrote:

On 2/27/06 7:09 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




The "bottomRight" is a Transcript word and returns a set of coordinates.
In the dictionary example for "print", though, it says "rightBottom".
That one is just a variable.

The real Transcript terms, which you correctly point out, are "topLeft"
and "bottomRight".


And when I use that it gives me an error message   'coordinates'
Thanks Hershel


What script are you using? The term "coordinates" is not a Transcript 
term, you'll need a set of numbers instead like "10,10" or "250,157". 
But show us your script and we can help.


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Re: Print from TL to BR - doesn't

[Hershel Fisch]

On 2/27/06 7:09 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> 
> The "bottomRight" is a Transcript word and returns a set of coordinates.
> In the dictionary example for "print", though, it says "rightBottom".
> That one is just a variable.
> 
> The real Transcript terms, which you correctly point out, are "topLeft"
> and "bottomRight".
And when I use that it gives me an error message   'coordinates'
Thanks Hershel

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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[wouter]

On 28 Feb 2006, at 15:27, wouter wrote:

-snip-

Some corrections:


getprop uRuggedID
  get the long id of the target
  if word 1 of it is  "stack" then return word 1 to 2 of it  ###  
in case it is a substack

  if word 1 of it is "card" then return word 1 to 3 of it

  if "card" is among the words of it then
put num of words in char 1 to offset("of card id",it) + 1 of it  
into tStart

return (word 1 to 3 of it && word tStart to tStart + 3 of it)
  end if

--  return word 1 to 3 of it ### this  wouldn't do in case of a substack

end uRuggedID

getprop uRuggedLongID
  get the long id of the target
  if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
  if "card" is among the words of it then
put num of words in char 1 to offset("of card id",it) + 1 of it  
into tStart

return (word 1 to 3 of it && word tStart to -1 of it)
  end if
--  return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it) 

end uRuggedLongID



Greetings,
Wouter

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Re: More e-mail troubles

[J. Landman Gay]

Bob Warren wrote:

Dear All,

I would not normally dream of trying to deal with an administrative 
problem on this List, but it seems that all communication with Technical 
Support has been cut off. I have been unable to get a word out of them 
for the last 10 days (and even then it was only one word).


I have tried sending copies of my e-mails to Mark Chia and to Kevin, 
with no result.


My aim in sending details of my difficulty to the List is 2-fold:

1) Presuming that there is some good technical reason for my 
communication cutoff, perhaps someone in Technical Support will see it 
and give me an answer.


2) Regarding the possibility that my computer might have been attacked 
by a Use-Revolution-List-specific virus or even a hacker, perhaps 
someone can give me advice on what to do, especially if they have had a 
similar experience. This is the most urgent part.


Since sending the e-mails below, I suddenly received all the outstanding 
U-R Lists in one great dollop.


Hoping someone can clarify.


I just did a search of the support database and could not find any 
messages from you within the last two months, so it appears your emails 
aren't getting through (or my search skills are suspect.) The address is 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I assume that is where you sent your inquiries, 
but just in case, double-check. Tech support *always* responds, usually 
within 2 days, so if you haven't received a response after, say, four 
days (which would be a very long time) then you can be pretty sure your 
message never arrived. Don't send to Kevin or Mark -- your note will get 
lost in a huge sea of correspondence.



However, something somewhere is sending copies of my e-mails to

> other people (with apparently normal accounts) in other parts of
> the world. I know this because I have received messages back telling
> me that the person's mailbox is full, or that their anti-spam filter
> doesn't recognise me as a "friend" and they need me to confirm that
> I really did send them the message (which I didn't, of course).

What you are receiving from "strangers" is just a normal bounce that is 
routine for this type of mailing list. When you send a note to the list, 
the server copies it to everyone. Some people's mailboxes are full, or 
they have an auto-responder that sends back a boilerplate message. These 
bounces are not routed back to the main mailing list (which would cause 
an infinite loop of send-bounce-send-bounce,) but a copy *is* sent to 
the original poster (unfortunately, that's just how these lists work.)


That's why if you go on vacation you should turn off any auto-responders 
from your own mailbox or else temporarily suspend mailing lists, because 
everyone who happens to write to the list will receive your 
auto-response after every message they send. I have been deleting 
multiple auto-responders recently, as one particular list member forgot 
to turn off his list mail before he left town. Sometimes Heather will 
notice these and turn off that person's list delivery temporarily, but 
other times we just have to toss out those responses ourselves.


They are nothing to worry about and they mean nothing; they are a 
routine bounce from the list server. Just delete them. (Actually, what 
I've done is set up a mail filter that automatically routes these to my 
mail trash.)


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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More e-mail troubles

[Bob Warren]

Dear All,

I would not normally dream of trying to deal with an administrative 
problem on this List, but it seems that all communication with Technical 
Support has been cut off. I have been unable to get a word out of them 
for the last 10 days (and even then it was only one word).


I have tried sending copies of my e-mails to Mark Chia and to Kevin, 
with no result.


My aim in sending details of my difficulty to the List is 2-fold:

1) Presuming that there is some good technical reason for my 
communication cutoff, perhaps someone in Technical Support will see it 
and give me an answer.


2) Regarding the possibility that my computer might have been attacked 
by a Use-Revolution-List-specific virus or even a hacker, perhaps 
someone can give me advice on what to do, especially if they have had a 
similar experience. This is the most urgent part.


Since sending the e-mails below, I suddenly received all the outstanding 
U-R Lists in one great dollop.


Hoping someone can clarify.

Regards,
Bob

-
27/2/2006
Dear Heather,

Please note that I am writing to you from my old e-mail address 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not from the address which I have used 
exclusively and successfully regarding RR communications 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for quite some time now.


You will remember that I was obliged to change from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because of incompatibility problems between your 
server and mine, with the result that the Use-Revolution Lists were 
being bounced by my server.


You will see below copies of 2 e-mails I have sent you recently (using 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). I have received no replies of any kind. When I 
wrote to you, the only problem I was suffering was the one described 
(i.e. the possibility of a virus/hacker attack, causing my posts to the 
U-R List to be sent to private addresses in other parts of the world). 
In order to help clarify the source of the problem, I really needed some 
kind of reply on your part.


However, since then, another problem has occurred. I have just received
use-revolution Digest, Vol 29, Issue 73 (at last). The last one I 
received was very early on Saturday morning: use-revolution Digest, Vol 
29, Issue 66. I have visited my account at RunRev, and I see that your 
server is apparently reporting bounces.


As quite obviously this subject needs to be dealt with URGENTLY, I find 
it very difficult to believe that you would not answer my e-mails. There 
must therefore be some other explanation. Either my computer has been 
infected with a Use-Revolution specific virus or hacker attack, and my 
Norton Antivirus and anti-spyware is unable to detect it, or my account 
at RunRev is in a big mess or has also been infected in some way.


At this moment I am completely foxed as to what on earth is going on, so 
if we can establish some kind of communication I can perhaps find my way 
forward.


Thanks.

Regards,
Bob


--
24/2/2006
Dear Heather,

I sent you the e-mail below on the 20th Feb., but since I have not yet 
received any kind of reply, I have begun to wonder whether you received 
it or indeed whether your reply got lost in the post.


Regards,
Bob

---
Dear Heather,

During the last few days (coincidence or not, since you corrected the 
Sales Department's record of my new e-mail address), something very 
strange has been happening. I have been quite active on the 
Use-Revolution List during this time. Everything I have sent has been 
received and published on the list normally. However, something 
somewhere is sending copies of my e-mails to other people (with 
apparently normal accounts) in other parts of the world. I know this 
because I have received messages back telling me that the person's 
mailbox is full, or that their anti-spam filter doesn't recognise me as 
a "friend" and they need me to confirm that I really did send them the 
message (which I didn't, of course).


Using the same account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I have tried sending 
e-mails to other people, and so far there has been no evidence of a 
similar thing happening. Naturally, I have run my Norton anti-virus and 
a whole host of anti-spyware programs, but as far as I can see, my 
computer is absolutely clean. On the face of it, it would seem that the 
RR server is responsible for re-distributing my messages.


What say you? Have you ever seen anything like this before? Have you had 
any confusions or virus/hacker attacks on the RR server recently? Are 
user contributions ever sent directly to other users as well as being 
published on the List?


It will be interesting to see whether this very message also gets sent 
to somebody else, but I can only know that if it gets rejected by their 
server for some reason and is returned to me.


Never a dull moment!

Regards,
Bob

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Re: XML Library and Windows

[Karen]

On 28 Feb 2006, at 01:00, Jan Schenkel wrote:



Hi Karen,

The only thing that has worked for me so far was to
explicitly add revXML to the externals of the stack.

So here's a temporary workaround:

1) Use the message box to execute the line
##
  set the externals of this stack to
"externals/revxml.dll"
##

2) After building the standalone, copy the file
'revXML.dll' from your Revolution Enterprise directory
to the 'externals' directory in your standalone
directory.

If all goes well, the XML commands and functions
should now be available. It looks like we'll have to
take a trip to Bugzilla, as the Windows standalone
builder skips quite a few files.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports for Revolution



Hi Jan,

Thanks very much for that, but as I'm building on the Mac only, I had  
to use something that Trevor DeVore had previously suggested - http:// 
article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/64387/match=set 
+external


The problem I'm now having is that Quartam says it can't find the  
report formats.  Is there some trick to the path to use for this in  
Windows?


Thanks,

Karen
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Re: Export to pdf

[Marty Knapp]

Thanks Alejandro and other - I'll dive in and see what I can learn. 
Looks like it will be a while though :)


My short term solution is to go with a PDF printer driver and custom 
page size using the built-in "Save as PDF" option on the Mac and I poked 
around and found some free PDF printer drivers for Windows. Among them:


WinPDF 
pdfMachine white 
PDF4Free 
PrimoPDF 

I've only done a quick test with PrimoPDF and it worked OK. Will need to 
check them all out and see how it shakes out.


Of course it would be nicer to have something more transparent - maybe 
in Rev 2.8?


Marty Knapp


Hi Marty,

i noticed that you asked for a download
link to the most recent version of the
stack "Vector to PDF":



Previous versions:




Searching in this mail list archives,
i noticed that Monte Goulding
and Jean Baptiste (JBV) had
worked with PDF too.

  

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Re: templates and instances for custom controls (was: object scripts)

[Jonathan Lynch]

Good stuff...

However one goes about it, we are quite able to create objects that behave
in various ways with transcript.

However...

What if one wants to create a new type of custom object - say, a 3D object
veiwer.

A plain ol' basic object (like a field) does not require any scripts, and
can have many functionalities built into it at the level of Rev's C code...

A 3D object viewer probably would not work in transcript, because of the
intensive processing required to render an image. So, how could one create a
customized object of that sort?


On 2/27/06, Dick Kriesel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/26/06 11:41 AM, "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The Object Oriented way to do this is to define a new group type:
> > alertGroup, say. In the definition of the alertGroup, you include the
> > original mouseUp handler. Then any time you need a group that has
> > this behavior you declare it to be an alertGroup (instead of a
> > generic group). In every way it acts like a normal group, but when a
> > control in it is clicked, it displays a dialog with the name of the
> > control. If you need to make it a warning dialog, change the class
> > definition and the behavior everywhere changes.
>
> Here's a Transcript-based technique for treating any custom control as a
> template, by creating and deleting instances.  Each instance invokes
> handlers stored only in the template, by executing a Transcript "call."
> Here's an example:
>
> on mouseDown
> try
>call the params of the uTemplate of the target
> end try
> pass mouseDown
> end mouseDown
>
> All the system message handlers like the above are stored in the
> instance's
> top-level script.  No component control within the instance has a script.
> Every control in the instance has property uTemplate.  A template can
> reside
> in a library, but doesn't need to.  A template can override or supplement
> the instance handlers like the example above, by setting properties in the
> template's uInstanceScript custom property set.  Templates and instances
> refer to each other using "rugged" long ids, which are native long ids
> stripped of any "of group id" clause.  Rugged ids don't fail when the
> developer moves a control to a different owner.
>
> To set that up, the developer creates an instance by sending a message to
> the template, passing a reference to the group that will be the owner of
> the
> new instance:
>
> send "template_createInstance tGroup" to tCustomControl
>
> That's it for the overview.  Here are most of the details:
>
> on template_createInstance pOwner
> if there is a group pOwner then
>put the uRuggedLongID of the target into tTemplate
>-- note: the template can be in a library stack
>copy tTemplate to group pOwner
>put the uRuggedLongID of it into tInstance
>set the uInstances of tTemplate to \
>the uInstances of tTemplate & tInstance & cr
>-- note: the uInstances can guide a developer to propagate \
>--   template changes out to the instances
>set the uTemplate of it to tTemplate
>set the script of it to the uInstanceScript of tTemplate
>repeat with i = 1 to number of controls in it
>  set the uTemplate of control i of it to \
>  the uRuggedLongID of control i of tTemplate
>  set the script of control i of it to empty
>end repeat
>send "choose browse tool" to me in 0
> else
>breakPoint
> end if
> end template_createInstance
>
> on template_deleteInstance
> put the uTemplate of the target into tTemplate
> if tTemplate is not empty then
>put the uInstances of tTemplate into tInstances
>filter tInstances without the uRuggedLongID of the target
>set the uInstances of tTemplate to tInstances
> end if
> end template_deleteInstance
>
> getProp uRuggedID
> put the long id of the target into tLongID
> if word 1 of tLongID is not "stack" then
>-- note: stacks do not have rugged ids
>put word 1 to 3 of tLongID into tRuggedID
>put offset(" of card id " & quote,tLongID) into tOffset
>if tOffset > 0 then
>  put char tOffset to offset(space,tLongID,tOffset) - 1 of tLongID \
>  after tRuggedID
>end if
> end if
> return tRuggedID
> end uRuggedID
>
> getProp uRuggedLongID
> put the uRuggedID of the target into tRuggedLongID
> put offset(" of stack " & quote,the long id of the target) into tOffset
> put char tOffset to -1 of the long id of the target after tRuggedLongID
> return tRuggedLongID
> end uRuggedLongID
>
> getProp uInstanceScript
> lock messages
> put the uInstanceScript of the target into tInstanceScript
> put cr & the uInstanceScript[word 1 of the target] of me \
>  after tInstanceScript
> unlock messages
> end uInstanceScript
>
> All the above handlers could be stored in a library, which could be called
> something like libTemplate, and which I could produce if people are
> interested.
>
> Any feedback?
>
> -- Dick
>
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Re: Weather Widget

[Wally Rodriguez]

Very nice Scott.

Thanks!

W.

On Feb 27, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Some time back there was a brief discussion about building widget-y  
things
in Rev.  Here's an example of a weather widget, not because it's  
never been

done, but because it can be done. :-)


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Re: Re-2: OT: Spanish Computer

[Dom]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the French call it ordinateur. 

the word was found/invented by a french IBM employee, years ago!

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search scripts for string

[Preston Shea]

I seem to remember a something (third party? sample script?) somewhere to 
search all the scripts in a stack for a text string. Does anyone know where 
this gem might be?
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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[Geoff Canyon]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:21 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote:


What about a control on a card in a substack?


Good catch. I don't have time this morning to figure my way around  
that, and my script is getting near to yours in complexity anyway.


gc
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Re: Long load times

[Mark Talluto]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:28 AM, David Burgun wrote:


Hi,

If the image itself doesn't have to be password protected, you  
could save it in the another stack which in kept in the same folder  
as the main stack, since this will only contain the image, it need  
not be password protected. Then load this stack at run time, get  
the image from the custom property and store in the custom property  
of the main stack. If the main stack gets re-written at run time  
and the image changes, you will obviously need to update the new  
stack with the latest copy of the image.




Not a bad idea Dave.  Thanks for that.  My current needs are for a  
single file installer though.  If the need arose, I would go this  
route in the end though.



Mark Talluto
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http://www.canelasoftware.com

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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[wouter]

On 28 Feb 2006, at 03:55, Dick Kriesel wrote:

-snip-

A "rugged id" is a native long id stripped of any "of group id"  
clauses and

"of stack" clauses, intended for use within a single stack.

A "rugged long id" is a native long id stripped of any "of group id"
clauses, intended for use across multiple stacks.



Thank you for the definitions.


On 28 Feb 2006, at 11:21, Dick Kriesel wrote:


On 2/28/06 2:06 AM, "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


getProp uRuggedID
   get the long id of the target
   if word 1 of it is "card" then return word 1 to 3 of it
   if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
&& word -7 to -4 of it)
   return word 1 to 3 of it
end uRuggedID

getProp uRuggedLongID
   get the long id of the target
   if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
   if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
&& word -7 to -1 of it)
   return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it)
end uRuggedLongID


What about a control on a card in a substack?


this could do (partly):

getprop uRuggedID
  get the long id of the target
  -- if word 1 of it is "card" then return word 1 to 3 of it
  if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
  if "card" is among the words of it then
put num of words in char 1 to offset("of card id",it) + 1 of it  
into tStart

return (word 1 to 3 of it && word tStart to tStart + 3 of it)
  end if
  return word 1 to 3 of it ###
end uRuggedID

getprop uRuggedLongID
  get the long id of the target
  if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
  if "card" is among the words of it then
put num of words in char 1 to offset("of card id",it) + 1 of it  
into tStart

return (word 1 to 3 of it && word tStart to -1 of it)
  end if
  return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it) ### !!!
end uRuggedLongID

###:  I'm not sure about the necessity of the last return statements  
in the getprop handlers.

 (I leave them out)
!!!: the last return statement of the uRuggedLongID still needs  
to be adapted if it must stay in,
but I cannot imagine on what kind of long id it would be applicable.  
So please jump in if you know.


Greetings,
Wouter
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Re: Export to pdf

[capellan]

Hi Marty,

i noticed that you asked for a download
link to the most recent version of the
stack "Vector to PDF":



Previous versions:




Searching in this mail list archives,
i noticed that Monte Goulding
and Jean Baptiste (JBV) had
worked with PDF too.


About the method that this stack uses to export vector graphics
to pdf format, here is a quick recipe:

Use a PDF template that it's filled with the
data created from the vector graphics, images
or text. I created this template examining
several empty pdf created from diferent apps
and reading the Adobe PDF file format specifications.

This template is a small text file stored as a 
custom property of the stack. 
(In fact there are 3 templates,
one for Adobe ilustrator, two for PDF)

To create the data of every graphic,
you could use a "repeat for each"
structure and a "switch case" handler 
to create the pdf/illustrator code for every
type of graphic: oval, rectangle, line,
polygonal, curve, etc.

In RR, a vector oval graphic has
height and width, but in PDF/AI, 
a graphic shaped as an oval,
has 4 consecutive bezier lines that
recreate the shape.
(SVG and recent versions of PDF
file format allow to define ovals
and rectangles in different way)

Every type of graphic requires specific code
for this task. Look at the diferences between
the code to convert an oval and a rectangle
graphic.

After you have all vector data in a variable,
insert this data in the PDF template:

marked as  in:
stream

endstream

or in the Adobe Ilustrator template:
0 XR
*
LB

Write the additional data that PDF
format require, like offsets of the
beginning of each section in the
document trailer and (this is important
for PDF format) replace all carriage 
return with linefeeds.
Adobe Ilustrator format does not
require offsets and trailer, so it's easier 
to write, test and debug.

alejandro
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http://www.nabble.com/Export-to-pdf-t1185078.html#a3164272
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Re: Long load times

[David Burgun]

Hi,

If the image itself doesn't have to be password protected, you could  
save it in the another stack which in kept in the same folder as the  
main stack, since this will only contain the image, it need not be  
password protected. Then load this stack at run time, get the image  
from the custom property and store in the custom property of the main  
stack. If the main stack gets re-written at run time and the image  
changes, you will obviously need to update the new stack with the  
latest copy of the image.


Hope this Helps

All the Best
Dave


On 28 Feb 2006, at 00:45, Mark Talluto wrote:


Is the stack in the standalone password protected? This can  
increase load times. It's not usually noticeable, but with a 45MB  
stack, I guess it may become so.




That was it!  The stack is password protected.  Serious performance  
hit indeed!  Thanks to you and Jacque for helping.





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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[Dick Kriesel]

On 2/28/06 2:06 AM, "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> getProp uRuggedID
>get the long id of the target
>if word 1 of it is "card" then return word 1 to 3 of it
>if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
> && word -7 to -4 of it)
>return word 1 to 3 of it
> end uRuggedID
> 
> getProp uRuggedLongID
>get the long id of the target
>if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
>if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
> && word -7 to -1 of it)
>return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it)
> end uRuggedLongID

What about a control on a card in a substack?
 
-- Dick


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Re-2: OT: Spanish Computer

[runrev260805]

Why not,

the French call it ordinateur. 
And of course "he" is "masculinum". ;-)

>No matter, anyone knows that "computer" translates into "ordenador" ;-)


Matthias


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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[Geoff Canyon]

Handling cards as well:

getProp uRuggedID
  get the long id of the target
  if word 1 of it is "card" then return word 1 to 3 of it
  if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it  
&& word -7 to -4 of it)

  return word 1 to 3 of it
end uRuggedID

getProp uRuggedLongID
  get the long id of the target
  if word 1 of it is among the words of "card stack" then return it
  if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it  
&& word -7 to -1 of it)

  return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it)
end uRuggedLongID
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Re: OT: Spanish Computer

[Dom]

Robert Presender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Instead of giving the answer, the teacher split the
> class into two groups, male and female, and asked them
> to decide for themselves whether "computer" should be
> a masculine or a feminine noun.

No matter, anyone knows that "computer" translates into "ordenador" ;-)

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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[Dick Kriesel]

On 2/28/06 12:41 AM, "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To handle unplaced groups:
> 
> getProp uRuggedID
>get the long id of the target
>if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
> && word -7 to -4 of it)
>return word 1 to 3 of it
> end uRuggedID
> 
> getProp uRuggedLongID
>get the long id of the target
>if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it
> && word -7 to -1 of it)
>return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it)
> end uRuggedLongID


That works for unplaced groups but not for cards.

This works for all Rev object types (I think):

getProp uRuggedID
  if word 1 of the target is "stack" then
put the long id of the target into tRuggedID
  else if (word 1 of the target is "group") \
and (word 1 of the owner of the target is "stack") then
put "bkgnd id" && the short id of the owner of the target into tRuggedID
-- note: "bkgnd" is word 1 of the long id of an unplaced group
  else
put abbr id of the target into tRuggedID
put long id of the target into tLongID
put offset(" of card id ",tLongID) into tOffset
if tOffset > 0 then
  put char tOffset to tOffset + offset(space,tLongID,tOffset + 12) \
  + 11 of tLongID after tRuggedID
  -- note: 12 is the length of " of card id "
end if
  end if
  return tRuggedID
end uRuggedID

getProp uRuggedLongID
  put the long id of the target into tLongID
  put the uRuggedID of tLongID into tRuggedLongID
  put offset(" of stack " & quote,tLongID) into tOffset
  put char tOffset to -1 of tLongID after tRuggedLongID
  return tRuggedLongID
end uRuggedLongID


Maybe Geoff will come up with a simpler and/or faster implementation...

-- Dick


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Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript

[Geoff Canyon]

To handle unplaced groups:

getProp uRuggedID
  get the long id of the target
  if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it  
&& word -7 to -4 of it)

  return word 1 to 3 of it
end uRuggedID

getProp uRuggedLongID
  get the long id of the target
  if "card" is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it  
&& word -7 to -1 of it)

  return (word 1 to 3 of it && word -3 to -1 of it)
end uRuggedLongID


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Re: Way to get lineOffset to only match at the *beginning* of a line?

[Ken Ray]

On 2/28/06 1:39 AM, "Jim Witte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>I want to do something like lineOffset, but I only want to match
> the target if it's at the beginning of the line.  So
> 
> lineOffset("this", theText)

Try this:

lineOffset(CR & "this", CR & theText)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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