Multi-Platform ?
Hi from Paris, After buying DreamCard just a few months ago, (just before they discontinued the product !), I was amazed at the speed at which I could convert my Hypercard Stacks to DreamCard. It was a pleasure to discover the 1001 useful improvements. My stacks were up and running on the Mac within days, and I can honestly say that some of my scripts are pretty hefty. I spent more than ten years with HyperCard, developing my own little world, and I now WANT it in DreamCard. Of course, I had the classical problems of trying to find what DreamCard function replaced the XFCN and XCMD goodies from Rinaldi Co., but it was fun, and it forced me to read the documentation ! Then I started to move my stacks to the PC, running under the Oh so impermeable Stack Runner, and then the glitter wore off somewhat. Result : Some functions DON'T, some button scripts DON'T, some fields have the wrong fonts , or the wrong font size or fontheight, etc. And of course, on the PC I see absolutely nothing about what is wrong. So I go from Mac to PC, painstakingly adding : answer So far - so good ! commands to my scripts, and displaying intermediate results in new fields on my cards, to see what I was doing wrong - because obviously, I was doing SOMETHING wrong ! As an example, It took me a week to find the incorrect use of the not equal sign on the PC (OK, so it WAS noted in the doc, and it WAS my fault !) I have finally come to the conclusion that the only mistake I made was NOT to have bought the PC version of DreamCard at the same time ! Unfortunately - now it's too late ! I learned a lot in the last month, and have come up with 3 decisions and 2 questions. Decision 1 - I love DreamCard - it's GREAT ! Decision 2 - I don't want to pay £199 (or more) Decision 3 - I don't want version 2.7 Question 1 - Having bought DreamCard on one platform, why can't we have the option to buy the other (PC) platform development DreamCard (at some cut-price rate), to iron out the platform problems ? Question 2 - Is there ANY way I can legally buy DreamCard 2.6.1 for PC (from anybody !), so I can get my stacks up and running on my PC with no sweat ? This is a call to anybody who bought DreamCard 2.6.1 for PC, and has decided not to use it any more ! - Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QTVRs (was: Rev on Intel iMacs)
On 13 Mar 2006, at 17:13, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Ian Wood wrote: 2.7.1 !?! I just had a look at a QTVR file - zooming in and out was quite jerky, in fact the performance was appalling overall, frame rates must have been in single figures on a dual G5. On the other hand, simply showing a QTVR file is no longer using 100% of a processor... This is a result of the Rev transition to the newer QuickTime APIs that report how often an application needs to idle QuickTime movies. How often you idle a QTVR determines how smooth the playback is. It should be fixed in the 2.7.1 release but for the time being you can reduce the idleRate property to something like 10 and see really smooth playback. Bingo! Thanks Trevor. Although I did notice some odd effects with resting CPU-usage with different idleRates: 16 or lower - 90-100% 17 - 4-8% 18-19 - 9-12% 20 - 30% over 20 it ramps down again ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Render Images
Hello all - I've been away for a few months and lo! when I get back to Rev (just when I thought I was starting to get the hang of it) they go and release a new version... :-) A question: the release blurb for 2.7 says: Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. Now this seems to be exactly what I need!... I would like to convert some formatted text (i.e. a field) to a PNG file with transparency. Can I do this in 2.7? Can't find reference to this in docs. I can achieve a similar effect by exporting (via snapshot) text on a white background then displaying resulting image using the multiply or screen inks (which are brilliant, btw) but that limits my options for colours in text. Any ideas??? Regards, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Render Images
On 14 Mar 2006, at 12:35, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: A question: the release blurb for 2.7 says: Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. Now this seems to be exactly what I need!... I would like to convert some formatted text (i.e. a field) to a PNG file with transparency. Can I do this in 2.7? Can't find reference to this in docs. import snapshot from fld test or export snapshot from fld test to file test.png as PNG Having made sure that the opaque of the field is set to false first so that there is actually some transparency to capture. This is VERY powerful as it takes the info from the object directly - it doesn't matter if there are other objects on top. A dream come true for some of my apps... I can achieve a similar effect by exporting (via snapshot) text on a white background then displaying resulting image using the multiply or screen inks (which are brilliant, btw) but that limits my options for colours in text. If you just want to show text over other colours you can use a regular text field with the opaque set to false - no limitations on colours, and works in older versions of Rev. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Render Images
Ian - Thanks so much - that's perfect! I am writing a multimedia app that needs to display text in many, many languages. Whilst Unicode goes a long to help, it is not a panacea - e.g. can you display Cambodian and Thai on your machine? I'm writing a utility that means that as long as our translators can correctly see the text (as text) on their machine we can export the text as a graphic to display correctly within the app on anyone's machine. By the way - where did you find this syntax? Is there a document I'm missing? I checked through the Rev docs and User guide pdf but couldn't find any reference to it... Thanks again! Chris On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:09, Ian Wood wrote: On 14 Mar 2006, at 12:35, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: A question: the release blurb for 2.7 says: Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. Now this seems to be exactly what I need!... I would like to convert some formatted text (i.e. a field) to a PNG file with transparency. Can I do this in 2.7? Can't find reference to this in docs. import snapshot from fld test or export snapshot from fld test to file test.png as PNG Having made sure that the opaque of the field is set to false first so that there is actually some transparency to capture. This is VERY powerful as it takes the info from the object directly - it doesn't matter if there are other objects on top. A dream come true for some of my apps... I can achieve a similar effect by exporting (via snapshot) text on a white background then displaying resulting image using the multiply or screen inks (which are brilliant, btw) but that limits my options for colours in text. If you just want to show text over other colours you can use a regular text field with the opaque set to false - no limitations on colours, and works in older versions of Rev. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Render Images
In the docs for import/ export snapshot: To export a snapshot of a specific (non-stack) object, use the form: export snapshot from [rect[angle] ] of chunk to ... Where chunk is any chunk expression resolving to a control, or any expression evaluating to a control reference. As usual it took me a little trial and error to turn the docs into actual code, in this case by trying to be too complex - now to see if it'll work on groups... Ian On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:43, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Ian - Thanks so much - that's perfect! I am writing a multimedia app that needs to display text in many, many languages. Whilst Unicode goes a long to help, it is not a panacea - e.g. can you display Cambodian and Thai on your machine? I'm writing a utility that means that as long as our translators can correctly see the text (as text) on their machine we can export the text as a graphic to display correctly within the app on anyone's machine. By the way - where did you find this syntax? Is there a document I'm missing? I checked through the Rev docs and User guide pdf but couldn't find any reference to it... Thanks again! Chris On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:09, Ian Wood wrote: On 14 Mar 2006, at 12:35, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: A question: the release blurb for 2.7 says: Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. Now this seems to be exactly what I need!... I would like to convert some formatted text (i.e. a field) to a PNG file with transparency. Can I do this in 2.7? Can't find reference to this in docs. import snapshot from fld test or export snapshot from fld test to file test.png as PNG Having made sure that the opaque of the field is set to false first so that there is actually some transparency to capture. This is VERY powerful as it takes the info from the object directly - it doesn't matter if there are other objects on top. A dream come true for some of my apps... I can achieve a similar effect by exporting (via snapshot) text on a white background then displaying resulting image using the multiply or screen inks (which are brilliant, btw) but that limits my options for colours in text. If you just want to show text over other colours you can use a regular text field with the opaque set to false - no limitations on colours, and works in older versions of Rev. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Grouping inside Grouping not that robust
I go eight levels deep with groups in Task Mage, and it works great. There are a few things you need to realize when doing this, but once you get the methodology worked out, it is not a problem. Also, you can know how deep you are by parsing the long name of an object. like this: put the long name of me into tName replace of with comma in tName put the number of items in tName into tNumberOfLevelsDeep As for objects dissappearing, they are probably off to the side, out of the exposed area of a group. I would be happy to check out your stack to see if I can see what is wrong. Take care, Jonathan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Render Images
On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:49, Ian Wood wrote: now to see if it'll work on groups... It does. Opens up possibilities for faking soft dropshadows using several translucent copies behind the main field, group the lot and export: http://azurevision.co.uk/rev/misc/dropshadow.png Drag over a mid-tine background for the best effect. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Render Images
Ian - DOH! I saw that in the docs, but just thought it was taking the rect info of the object to get a partial screen grab. Should read more carefully... Should read more carefully... Should read more carefully... Should read more carefully... Should read more carefully... Should read more carefully... Just tried it with a group and it seems to work beautifully! C On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:49, Ian Wood wrote: In the docs for import/ export snapshot: To export a snapshot of a specific (non-stack) object, use the form: export snapshot from [rect[angle] ] of chunk to ... Where chunk is any chunk expression resolving to a control, or any expression evaluating to a control reference. As usual it took me a little trial and error to turn the docs into actual code, in this case by trying to be too complex - now to see if it'll work on groups... Ian On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:43, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Ian - Thanks so much - that's perfect! I am writing a multimedia app that needs to display text in many, many languages. Whilst Unicode goes a long to help, it is not a panacea - e.g. can you display Cambodian and Thai on your machine? I'm writing a utility that means that as long as our translators can correctly see the text (as text) on their machine we can export the text as a graphic to display correctly within the app on anyone's machine. By the way - where did you find this syntax? Is there a document I'm missing? I checked through the Rev docs and User guide pdf but couldn't find any reference to it... Thanks again! Chris On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:09, Ian Wood wrote: On 14 Mar 2006, at 12:35, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: A question: the release blurb for 2.7 says: Render an image from any object on-screen, preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save. Now this seems to be exactly what I need!... I would like to convert some formatted text (i.e. a field) to a PNG file with transparency. Can I do this in 2.7? Can't find reference to this in docs. import snapshot from fld test or export snapshot from fld test to file test.png as PNG Having made sure that the opaque of the field is set to false first so that there is actually some transparency to capture. This is VERY powerful as it takes the info from the object directly - it doesn't matter if there are other objects on top. A dream come true for some of my apps... I can achieve a similar effect by exporting (via snapshot) text on a white background then displaying resulting image using the multiply or screen inks (which are brilliant, btw) but that limits my options for colours in text. If you just want to show text over other colours you can use a regular text field with the opaque set to false - no limitations on colours, and works in older versions of Rev. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Has anyone tried to send howsoft.com a bug report?
At my site (www.howsoft.com) there is a link to a simple PHP form for the reporting of bugs. It is very rarely used (??!!) Recently, I changed service provider, and I didn't realize that the old syntax of the PHP form would not work any more. Yesterday, someone tried to send me a bug report, but it arrived without the info typed by the sender, including his/her e-mail address. If someone on this list is trying to report a bug, I want to know about it! If you have tried to send a report in the last day or so, please accept my apologies and try again. Thanks. Regards, Bob Warren P.S. E-mails can now be sent to me directly (even from the RR server) at the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making the move...
Kay, Thank you for your thoughtful and extensive reply. It sure helps me begin to wrap my head around what the development environment is all about. I am, at this point, playing with both Revolution and RealBasic, and I'll probably be making a decision within the month. Your reply has been a great help. Thanks. Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making the move...
Josh, Very strong statements. Wow! If I may ask for further clarification... I have two questions I'd love you expound upon. 1) RealBasic -- that's the main rival, as I see it. I haven't written big enough apps to test, but it seem that the compiler is pretty fast. I wonder how they compare in development and upkeep of for database projects. What are your thoughts about the 2 development environments? 2) Revolution vs Ruby on Rails? You mean to say you use Revolution to write browser enabled web-apps? Something I could access with Firefox? If so, I'd love to hear more. Thanks again for you very insightful comments. I really appreciate them. Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thousands Separator on OSX
Hi Peter, To me it seems the Rev engine should give one access to this setting... Has someone BZed it? I totally agree. There should be a systemNumberFormat function to return decimal character, thousands separator, and currency symbol string and/or a formatNumber function that returns a numeric value formatted as per system preferences. Especially since every solution posted here is platform-specific. If you find or log this in BZ, post the # and I'll allocate some votes to it. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) bb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QTVRs (was: Rev on Intel iMacs)
On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:34 AM, Ian Wood wrote: Bingo! Thanks Trevor. Although I did notice some odd effects with resting CPU-usage with different idleRates: 16 or lower - 90-100% 17 - 4-8% 18-19 - 9-12% 20 - 30% over 20 it ramps down again Yeah, you usually don't want to have the idle rate low like that. What happens is that QuickTime reports that certain media types need to be idled as often as possible (QTVR, AXEL component, etc.). Right now Rev idles (updates) these movies at the idleRate. This isn't fast enough for QTVR though. I would leave the idleRate alone for now and just wait for 2.7.1. Playing with the value is just to show that there isn't any major problem with QTVR, just that it isn't being idled enough. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - http://www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev in Rosetta
There have been some requests for info on the new Macs with the Intel processors: I've been using an Intel iMac for two days now. The only problem in that time was a lockup trying to read from a flash drive. I restarted and never had the problem again. As for Rev in Rosetta: I don't have many empirical, stop watch, tests but importing and converting a large stack to a database required 3.4 minutes on the 2.0 GHZ iMac (stock 512 K RAM). The same import required 6.8 minutes on my 1.67 GHZ PowerBook (1 GB RAM). Everything feels faster on the iMac than the PB. Opening Rev files, coding, running code, debugging, etc. are all more than acceptable. I don't use heavy image manipulation or QuickTime so there may be issues I've not encountered that would be a problem for other users but for my work Rosetta works. With a Universal Binary Rev this computer should fly! Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
If you search the archives, you will find countless RunRev Vs. Real Basic discussions. I think it breaks down to your needs and your programming style. For me, RunRev and Transcript just fit with my brain really well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
I will. Could you please elaborate on the second question is asked: 2) Revolution vs Ruby on Rails? You mean to say you use Revolution to write browser enabled web-apps? Something I could access with Firefox? If so, I'd love to hear more. Thanks. Michael On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: If you search the archives, you will find countless RunRev Vs. Real Basic discussions. I think it breaks down to your needs and your programming style. For me, RunRev and Transcript just fit with my brain really well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev in Rosetta (inflight fun)
Sorry - Paul paints too visual a picture for me to resist... disclaimer: I don't know flight jargon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- snip -- work Rosetta works. With a Universal Binary Rev this computer should fly! on joyRide set the weightUnits to grams set the weight of the machine to -5 set the attitude of the machine to +15 lock thrust set the thrustUnits to pounds set the thrust of the machine to 10 send holdOn to the topStack unlock thrust with effect increase to maximum in 5 seconds end joyRide Just 4 Fun - Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] altSQLite ships Linux Version and more...
On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:05, Chipp Walters wrote: Plus, Mac users now get a free update to altSQLite3 which fixes a few obscure bugs, and updates the SQLite version so it's more compatible with other open source SQLite products. Thanks Chipp, I'm very pleased with altSQLite3 - it makes database use with Rev about as easy as it could be. What with altBrowser, altFont and InterfaceDesigner I think that you've got a fairly indispensable group of utilities there! Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter question
Thanks, Sarah. I ended up going with a solution similar to this to get the job done. I thought Phil's suggestion would have worked, and that's what I was trying to do, but unfortunately it didn't. But thanks to all who responded. Chris On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It might be faster to filter the list simply to reduce it to lines that contain the filter string anywhere, and then do a loop to check if the filter string is in the correct item. -- gather the original data and the required settings put fld List into tList put fld Filter into Filter put 3 into tItemNum -- do the first filter to reduce the list filter tList with * tFilter * -- loop through making sure it appears in the right item put empty into tMatches repeat for each line L in tList if item tItemNum of L contains tFilter then put L cr after tMatches end repeat -- remove the trailing cr delete last char of tMatches -- display the matching results put tMatches into fld Results Cheers. Sarah On 3/14/06, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, To filter on column 3, are you using something like this? put fld list into tList filter tList \ with * tab * tab fld filter tab * put tList into fld list If so, it seems like that should work. Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm trying to apply a filter to a list field. The columns of the field are tab delimited. I have a separate filter field that allows the user to apply a filter to the list based on whichever column is the current sort column. I can get the filter to work fine so long as the first column is selected, but anything else does not work. How can I apply a filter to a list based on say item 3 of each line of that list? Is that possible? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter question
Hey, Chris, I know you probably don't have the time, but I am wondering why Phil's solution did not work. I use the filter command all the time and Phil had the correct syntax and useage, as far as I could see. Mostly just curiosity to find exceptions or tricky problems for future reference. Surprised it did not work. Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/14/06 11:01 AM, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Sarah. I ended up going with a solution similar to this to get the job done. I thought Phil's suggestion would have worked, and that's what I was trying to do, but unfortunately it didn't. But thanks to all who responded. Chris On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It might be faster to filter the list simply to reduce it to lines that contain the filter string anywhere, and then do a loop to check if the filter string is in the correct item. -- gather the original data and the required settings put fld List into tList put fld Filter into Filter put 3 into tItemNum -- do the first filter to reduce the list filter tList with * tFilter * -- loop through making sure it appears in the right item put empty into tMatches repeat for each line L in tList if item tItemNum of L contains tFilter then put L cr after tMatches end repeat -- remove the trailing cr delete last char of tMatches -- display the matching results put tMatches into fld Results Sarah On 3/14/06, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, To filter on column 3, are you using something like this? put fld list into tList filter tList \ with * tab * tab fld filter tab * put tList into fld list Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm trying to apply a filter to a list field. The columns of the field are tab delimited. I have a separate filter field that allows the user to apply a filter to the list based on whichever column is the current sort column. I can get the filter to work fine so long as the first column is selected, but anything else does not work. How can I apply a filter to a list based on say item 3 of each line of that list? Is that possible? Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter question
I'm not really 100% sure to be honest. I think it's because in my case I have to account for filtering with only a partial string. So for example, if my user enters a, the filter needs to return any records where say the third item of each line begins with a. Because Phil's solution uses tabs around the filter string (tab fld filter tab), it doesn't work quite right for me. I tried a couple different modifications, including placing *'s between the filter string and the tabs, to make it work for me but couldn't find anything that worked in all cases. Hope that provides you with a little more information. Chris On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Hey, Chris, I know you probably don't have the time, but I am wondering why Phil's solution did not work. I use the filter command all the time and Phil had the correct syntax and useage, as far as I could see. Mostly just curiosity to find exceptions or tricky problems for future reference. Surprised it did not work. Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/14/06 11:01 AM, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Sarah. I ended up going with a solution similar to this to get the job done. I thought Phil's suggestion would have worked, and that's what I was trying to do, but unfortunately it didn't. But thanks to all who responded. Chris On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It might be faster to filter the list simply to reduce it to lines that contain the filter string anywhere, and then do a loop to check if the filter string is in the correct item. -- gather the original data and the required settings put fld List into tList put fld Filter into Filter put 3 into tItemNum -- do the first filter to reduce the list filter tList with * tFilter * -- loop through making sure it appears in the right item put empty into tMatches repeat for each line L in tList if item tItemNum of L contains tFilter then put L cr after tMatches end repeat -- remove the trailing cr delete last char of tMatches -- display the matching results put tMatches into fld Results Sarah On 3/14/06, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, To filter on column 3, are you using something like this? put fld list into tList filter tList \ with * tab * tab fld filter tab * put tList into fld list Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm trying to apply a filter to a list field. The columns of the field are tab delimited. I have a separate filter field that allows the user to apply a filter to the list based on whichever column is the current sort column. I can get the filter to work fine so long as the first column is selected, but anything else does not work. How can I apply a filter to a list based on say item 3 of each line of that list? Is that possible? Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't delete standalone in Windows
Recently I've noted a problem on building standalones (on my Mac OS X using Rev 2.7) and moving them to Windows. While the standalones work on Windows, if I try to move them to the trash in Windows, I get a message: Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. The problem is that the file is not in use, I have about 200gb of disk space, there is no password needed to access the computer, and I do not have this problem with other kinds of files. The only way I can trash the files is to restart the computer and try again. I do not know if this is a problem with Revolution or with my Windows computer. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
can someone show me a CRM solution
If possible, could someone point me towards a CRM solution created with runrev. thanks, Thom Wright School Counselor Jefferson Middle School ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Group Object?
Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, Is there a panel object that has the same style of rounded corner border like the tabpanel object? Or is there a way to achieve this using the tabpanel without the tab buttons on it? Thanks, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter question
Yes, that clarifies the situation. You probably need more that one format and test for the differences, then apply the right version. Thanks Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/14/06 11:31 AM, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really 100% sure to be honest. I think it's because in my case I have to account for filtering with only a partial string. So for example, if my user enters a, the filter needs to return any records where say the third item of each line begins with a. Because Phil's solution uses tabs around the filter string (tab fld filter tab), it doesn't work quite right for me. I tried a couple different modifications, including placing *'s between the filter string and the tabs, to make it work for me but couldn't find anything that worked in all cases. Hope that provides you with a little more information. Chris On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Hey, Chris, I know you probably don't have the time, but I am wondering why Phil's solution did not work. I use the filter command all the time and Phil had the correct syntax and useage, as far as I could see. Mostly just curiosity to find exceptions or tricky problems for future reference. Surprised it did not work. Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/14/06 11:01 AM, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Sarah. I ended up going with a solution similar to this to get the job done. I thought Phil's suggestion would have worked, and that's what I was trying to do, but unfortunately it didn't. But thanks to all who responded. Chris On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It might be faster to filter the list simply to reduce it to lines that contain the filter string anywhere, and then do a loop to check if the filter string is in the correct item. -- gather the original data and the required settings put fld List into tList put fld Filter into Filter put 3 into tItemNum -- do the first filter to reduce the list filter tList with * tFilter * -- loop through making sure it appears in the right item put empty into tMatches repeat for each line L in tList if item tItemNum of L contains tFilter then put L cr after tMatches end repeat -- remove the trailing cr delete last char of tMatches -- display the matching results put tMatches into fld Results Sarah On 3/14/06, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, To filter on column 3, are you using something like this? put fld list into tList filter tList \ with * tab * tab fld filter tab * put tList into fld list Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm trying to apply a filter to a list field. The columns of the field are tab delimited. I have a separate filter field that allows the user to apply a filter to the list based on whichever column is the current sort column. I can get the filter to work fine so long as the first column is selected, but anything else does not work. How can I apply a filter to a list based on say item 3 of each line of that list? Is that possible? Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Button Label on graphic button
Is there any way to get Rev to center a button label on a graphical button? It seems to only want to display it under the icon. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, Is there a panel object that has the same style of rounded corner border like the tabpanel object? Or is there a way to achieve this using the tabpanel without the tab buttons on it? Make a group, set the showBorder to true and adjust the width of the border until you get the right look. You may want to adjust the margins of the group to get the edges further away from the objects inside. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
There are probably a dozen ways to accomplish this. The best solution will depend on your needs, but you can, for example, have an image in whatever shape you want, and make that image do just about anything. Depending on your system, buttons can be set with rounded corners. There is, of course, the rounded rectangle object. When I want a specifice shape, I always use images, because it gives me complete control. But if you are having to continuously resize it, a rounded rectangle might be better. If this is mean to act as a containter of objects, you would need a group with the rounded rectangle as the bottom most object of the group. What do you need it for? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Label on graphic button
On 3/15/06, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get Rev to center a button label on a graphical button? It seems to only want to display it under the icon. Adjust the margins of the button. Normally the margins is a single number, but it can also be 4 comma-separated numbers, specifiying the left, top, right bottom margins respectively. Play around with altering these and see if you can get the result you want. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Hello Michael: As a non-developer type I might be able to give you yet another perspective on Rev. I own a post-production finishing house for commercials. My days are crazy with just my normal job and then I have to manage the IT needs and I'm also in charge of engineering. I did a very small amount of HyperCard programming back in '91-'93 and have put together a few filemaker pro databases, but basically have no experience as a programmer. The fact that the program can switch from programming mode to run mode while you work makes it very easy and quick to see what you're going to get. Using Revolution I have been able to: 1. Automate our web page generation for client feedback. This is a relatively complex setup that reads movies placed in various folders on our webserver and with some user input, generates password- protected php web pages that look every bit as good as others out there. 2. Created a touch-screen interface for iTunes to run on a powerbook in my car. 3. Created a slate generator (slates are the identifiers used in commercials). This program combines some background image with text to create sequential countdowns for our video projects. It runs on XP and OSX. In the month or so it's been running it has generated over 2000 images! I'm in the process of building a home-control application that acts as a client to iRed (an infrared remote server). The cool thing about this app is that it's allowed me to rescue a couple of old machines to use as controllers. The standalone client currently runs on OS9, XP tablet edition and OSX. This in itself is pretty amazing. All of this while doing the rest of my work and without looking back. I strongly recommend the product. Two things, start with v 2.6.1, (especially if you're going to be developing on windows) and I understand that there is a deal where you get Constellation for free. It's worth the $50 it costs anyway, but free is soo much better! :-) So I find that it's the easiest way to write code that can actually do something without having to lear a complex and cryptic language. W. On Mar 10, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Mvreade wrote: Hi, I've been playing with Revolution for a few days and am VERY impressed with its capabilities and ease of use. I do however, have a few questions and reservations, which hopefully you guys can answer. I found it a bit buggy (using a iBook G4, 1G of memory, on OSX 10.4). The property inspector went blank a few times, the application crashed once, the sample database query in the example solutions was updating records, demo videos weren't displaying, to mention a few. So the quesiton is, how good of an environment to work on is it? And how stable are the final applications? For users who have used Rev for databases, I was wondering what it's like to develop a system with, say, 20 tables and lots or relationships and methods? Where would one store all the methods? For relationships, would one just keep a VERYlong list of Database Queries? Finally, does any one know if Runtime Revolution Ltd has any plans to have a connection to an open source, embeddable database, such as SQLite? Thanks for your help, Michael Reade ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Hi Steve, I had sometimes the same problem when I copy the standalone from the Mac to the PC through the network (I connect from the Mac and the PC is mounted as a network disk). MacOS may lock the copied file on the PC. I must eject the PC to unlock the file. Hope it helps Thierry On 2006, Mar 14, , at 21:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I've noted a problem on building standalones (on my Mac OS X using Rev 2.7) and moving them to Windows. While the standalones work on Windows, if I try to move them to the trash in Windows, I get a message: Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. The problem is that the file is not in use, I have about 200gb of disk space, there is no password needed to access the computer, and I do not have this problem with other kinds of files. The only way I can trash the files is to restart the computer and try again. I do not know if this is a problem with Revolution or with my Windows computer. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Label on graphic button
Actually I already did this. It work per se, but then one winds up with a large empty area around the button that is clickable, which is kind of strange from a UI standpoint. I was thinking I could roll my own graphical button with a text field and a image. That is what I might wind up doing. I was hoping there was an easier way. I should put in an enhancement request to make buttons respect an icon's transparent area. I mentioned it to Mark, but not sure it got on the list. At 02:35 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote: On 3/15/06, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get Rev to center a button label on a graphical button? It seems to only want to display it under the icon. Adjust the margins of the button. Normally the margins is a single number, but it can also be 4 comma-separated numbers, specifiying the left, top, right bottom margins respectively. Play around with altering these and see if you can get the result you want. Sarah Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Hit ctrl-alt-delete and look for your standalone in the task manager. I've had times where all the windows close but for some reason, the application is still running. If you find it there, you can force quit it, and then you should be able to trash the standalone. This seems to usually happen if a script error occurs in the runtime that prevents a stack from appearing, I think. At 02:09 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote: Recently I've noted a problem on building standalones (on my Mac OS X using Rev 2.7) and moving them to Windows. While the standalones work on Windows, if I try to move them to the trash in Windows, I get a message: Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. The problem is that the file is not in use, I have about 200gb of disk space, there is no password needed to access the computer, and I do not have this problem with other kinds of files. The only way I can trash the files is to restart the computer and try again. I do not know if this is a problem with Revolution or with my Windows computer. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. Use the CTRL + Delete key. You'll see your app running there still. You can close it from there. To avoid this be sure to implicitly call Quit in the application when closing down. Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Wally, Thanks for your input. Like you, I am not a developer by training. I have a few different solutions, written in Filemaker, which target mostly Art and Antique galleries. I have been wondering about picking up RealBasic, which looks nice, but not quite as intuitive as Revolution. So I imagine that it will take me little longer to become productive in RB than in Revolution. I also wonder whether once the learning curve has been conquered, whether Revolution would still be faster than RB. I have a feeling that it would be... Thanks, Michael On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Wally Rodriguez wrote: Hello Michael: As a non-developer type I might be able to give you yet another perspective on Rev. I own a post-production finishing house for commercials. My days are crazy with just my normal job and then I have to manage the IT needs and I'm also in charge of engineering. I did a very small amount of HyperCard programming back in '91-'93 and have put together a few filemaker pro databases, but basically have no experience as a programmer. The fact that the program can switch from programming mode to run mode while you work makes it very easy and quick to see what you're going to get. Using Revolution I have been able to: 1. Automate our web page generation for client feedback. This is a relatively complex setup that reads movies placed in various folders on our webserver and with some user input, generates password-protected php web pages that look every bit as good as others out there. 2. Created a touch-screen interface for iTunes to run on a powerbook in my car. 3. Created a slate generator (slates are the identifiers used in commercials). This program combines some background image with text to create sequential countdowns for our video projects. It runs on XP and OSX. In the month or so it's been running it has generated over 2000 images! I'm in the process of building a home-control application that acts as a client to iRed (an infrared remote server). The cool thing about this app is that it's allowed me to rescue a couple of old machines to use as controllers. The standalone client currently runs on OS9, XP tablet edition and OSX. This in itself is pretty amazing. All of this while doing the rest of my work and without looking back. I strongly recommend the product. Two things, start with v 2.6.1, (especially if you're going to be developing on windows) and I understand that there is a deal where you get Constellation for free. It's worth the $50 it costs anyway, but free is soo much better! :-) So I find that it's the easiest way to write code that can actually do something without having to lear a complex and cryptic language. W. On Mar 10, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Mvreade wrote: Hi, I've been playing with Revolution for a few days and am VERY impressed with its capabilities and ease of use. I do however, have a few questions and reservations, which hopefully you guys can answer. I found it a bit buggy (using a iBook G4, 1G of memory, on OSX 10.4). The property inspector went blank a few times, the application crashed once, the sample database query in the example solutions was updating records, demo videos weren't displaying, to mention a few. So the quesiton is, how good of an environment to work on is it? And how stable are the final applications? For users who have used Rev for databases, I was wondering what it's like to develop a system with, say, 20 tables and lots or relationships and methods? Where would one store all the methods? For relationships, would one just keep a VERYlong list of Database Queries? Finally, does any one know if Runtime Revolution Ltd has any plans to have a connection to an open source, embeddable database, such as SQLite? Thanks for your help, Michael Reade ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Label on graphic button
Can you just create an image to use as an Icon that has your picture and text all in the same image? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Use the CTRL + Delete key. That should of course be CTRL + ALT+Delete Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't delete standalone in Windows
On 3/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I've noted a problem on building standalones (on my Mac OS X using Rev 2.7) and moving them to Windows. While the standalones work on Windows, if I try to move them to the trash in Windows, I get a message: Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. There are a few things that can cause this: a window left open (it be hidden or have been closed but not removed from memory) pending messages still runnning a library still in use - this can esecially happen if the speech library is not unloaded. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can someone show me a CRM solution
On 3/14/06 2:17 PM, Thom Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If possible, could someone point me towards a CRM solution created with runrev. It's vertical market for the entertainment industry: http://www.inentertainment.com/ Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, Is there a panel object that has the same style of rounded corner border like the tabpanel object? Or is there a way to achieve this using the tabpanel without the tab buttons on it? Make a group, set the showBorder to true and adjust the width of the border until you get the right look. You may want to adjust the margins of the group to get the edges further away from the objects inside. Sarah, thank you, this is what I was looking for. :-) -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Jonathan Lynch wrote: There are probably a dozen ways to accomplish this. Jonathan, Thanks for the info, but Sarah beat ya to it. -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Sarah is far more knowledgable than myself... I would listen to her anytime. If you want rounded corners though, I think you will have to have an object with rounded corners inside the group. Can groups have rounded corners? I did not think they could. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Printing Problem
Hi Everyone, When I print a card then show and/or hide some field or group and then print again it doesn't completely flush the old image. The problem seems to be that the borders of the fields don't show as they should. Thanks in advance for your continuing help for this newbie. Joe Orlando, Florida ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
On 3/15/06, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah is far more knowledgable than myself... I would listen to her anytime. :-) If you want rounded corners though, I think you will have to have an object with rounded corners inside the group. Can groups have rounded corners? I did not think they could. They certainly do on Mac OS X, but maybe not on Windows? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Label on graphic button
Hi Peter, Actually I already did this. It work per se, but then one winds up with a large empty area around the button that is clickable, which is kind of strange from a UI standpoint. this is actually a no-solution sincet it is almost useless and the result not predictable... I was thinking I could roll my own graphical button with a text field and a image. That is what I might wind up doing. I was hoping there was an easier way. I should put in an enhancement request to make buttons respect an icon's transparent area. I mentioned it to Mark, but not sure it got on the list. please check Bugzilla Nr. 1032. This is marked as RESOLVED although it IS NOT! :-/ Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can someone show me a CRM solution
On 3/14/06 3:27 PM, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's vertical market for the entertainment industry: Impressive. The toolbar - is that faked, do you know, or are they a cool control set made for the purpose? Well, it depends on what you mean by a cool control set... :-) I have a toolbar library that I'm using that does this, and handles different sizes and icons, but doesn't have a customize sheet yet... :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Label on graphic button
Hi Jonathan, Can you just create an image to use as an Icon that has your picture and text all in the same image? sure, but that a LOT of work. Imagine buttons for different languages! It would be so nice if one could use a nice graphic and just change the label of the buttons... See my answer to Peter and my mention of godzilla Nr. 1032... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
I am looking at the property inspector of a group right now, and I see no way give it rounded corners. (I am on Windows) Looking at the property inspector on a Mac, in which tab do you have the option to make a group have rounded corners? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Pardon me for jumping in here but I just went through a fairly extensive and intense period of working with Ruby on Rails and I'm a sort of long-time Revolutionary so I figured I could add something to the discussion. Web applications in the sense Ruby on Rails defines them cannot be written in Revolution. You *can* write CGIs and deploy stacks on servers and Web servers but there is, e.g., no Revolution plugin that would allow you to deploy a Rev app on a Web server so that a Firefox user could access it. You can, however, develop what are called Desktop Web Appliances (see http://www.daniels-mara.com/WebAppliances.htm) using Rev quite nicely. And with Altuit's amazingly powerful altBrowser ( http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm), you can create custom browsers that embed the behavior of Firefox and/or IE on OS X and Windows, respectively. And creating Web-aware Rev apps is really a piece of cake. So if you just need an app to be able to deal with the Internet/Web, Rev is perfect. If, OTOH, you really need or want to build apps that reside on the Web and can be accessed out of standard Web browsers, then Rev won't work. In that case, Ruby on Rails is the best tool for creating such apps as I've seen but be forewarned: it's deceptively easy to do simple stuff in RoR but I found it dishearteningly difficult to use it to create anything real even after spending a lot of time, energy and money (see http://www.danshafer.com/onemind/?q=node/43). As for REALBasic vs. Revolution, Johnathan Lynch is basically right on target with his comments. I'd add one more: unless you already know BASIC syntax and/or have some familiarity with a Visual Basic-type environment, Real isn't going to be very easy to learn or use. And as far as I can tell, database stuff is far more mature and accessible in Rev than in Real. On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will. Could you please elaborate on the second question is asked: 2) Revolution vs Ruby on Rails? You mean to say you use Revolution to write browser enabled web-apps? Something I could access with Firefox? If so, I'd love to hear more. Thanks. Michael On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: If you search the archives, you will find countless RunRev Vs. Real Basic discussions. I think it breaks down to your needs and your programming style. For me, RunRev and Transcript just fit with my brain really well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Jonathan Lynch wrote: Sarah is far more knowledgable than myself... I would listen to her anytime. If you want rounded corners though, I think you will have to have an object with rounded corners inside the group. Can groups have rounded corners? I did not think they could. In OS X they do, but not in Windows unless you're using an XP Visual Style or are running WindowBlinds, otherwise, it's a plain old rectangle border for Windows. -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Hi Jonathan, I am looking at the property inspector of a group right now, and I see no way give it rounded corners. (I am on Windows) Looking at the property inspector on a Mac, in which tab do you have the option to make a group have rounded corners? opaque groups with the default border width of 2 pixel have rounded corners by nature on OS X :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
On 3/15/06, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at the property inspector of a group right now, and I see no way give it rounded corners. (I am on Windows) Looking at the property inspector on a Mac, in which tab do you have the option to make a group have rounded corners? I don't do anything, They all have rounded corners. If you go to http://www.troz.net/Pic-a-POD/ you'll see screden shots for my Pic-A-POD app in both Mac Windows. Cick on the screen shots to see a larger image, the have a look near the bottom left of the window, where there are 3 checkboxes in a group labelled Download pictures from. Both Mac Window groups have rounded corners on their borders. Is this not what you were looking for? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: can someone show me a CRM solution
Well, it depends on what you mean by a cool control set... :-) I have a toolbar library that I'm using that does this, and handles different sizes and icons, but doesn't have a customize sheet yet... :-) Sounds like it'd make a good Rev add on product. I know I'd certainly be interested in it. Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Hmm... Dan, are sure there is no way to do a Web app in Rev? I mean, it seems like it should be possible. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what a web application is... But, you can use Rev to create web pages and respond to information put into a web page. And Rev can function as a server unto itself. Does the term web application only mean a program that is embedded in a browser, and displays inside the browser? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Amazon announced today a new online mass storage system called S3 (Simple Storage Service) that sounds amazingly good and really cheap. They've published sample code in a bunch of languages. I wonder if anyone here (you eavesdropping again, Andre, you crazy Brazilian?) would care to tackle writing a Rev UI for it. Could be way cool. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Jonathan... I said Web app as defined by Ruby on Rails. In their parlance -- which I think is fairly standard on the Web -- you create an application in a server-side language like PHP or Ruby and then you glue your browser interface to that application. Depending on how much of that definition you need to have, you can have lots of shades of gray. On 3/14/06, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Dan, are sure there is no way to do a Web app in Rev? I mean, it seems like it should be possible. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what a web application is... But, you can use Rev to create web pages and respond to information put into a web page. And Rev can function as a server unto itself. Does the term web application only mean a program that is embedded in a browser, and displays inside the browser? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Dan, Thank you for your response. The main thrust of my apps are as desktop apps, both LAN and WAN. However, there is an increasing interest in being able to select some artworks and on the desktop app and push the date to a web app for general viewing. So I anticipate that the web apps would be VERY simple, and it might even be possible to push the date into something like PHP-Fusion or Joomla! There's no need to reinvent the wheel. I have glimpsed at the pickaxe book on Ruby, and while it looks like a very elegant language, it sure is DEEP. I have ordered your book, by the way, and look forward to getting my hands on it. All the best, Michael On Mar 14, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Pardon me for jumping in here but I just went through a fairly extensive and intense period of working with Ruby on Rails and I'm a sort of long- time Revolutionary so I figured I could add something to the discussion. Web applications in the sense Ruby on Rails defines them cannot be written in Revolution. You *can* write CGIs and deploy stacks on servers and Web servers but there is, e.g., no Revolution plugin that would allow you to deploy a Rev app on a Web server so that a Firefox user could access it. You can, however, develop what are called Desktop Web Appliances (see http://www.daniels-mara.com/WebAppliances.htm) using Rev quite nicely. And with Altuit's amazingly powerful altBrowser ( http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm), you can create custom browsers that embed the behavior of Firefox and/or IE on OS X and Windows, respectively. And creating Web-aware Rev apps is really a piece of cake. So if you just need an app to be able to deal with the Internet/ Web, Rev is perfect. If, OTOH, you really need or want to build apps that reside on the Web and can be accessed out of standard Web browsers, then Rev won't work. In that case, Ruby on Rails is the best tool for creating such apps as I've seen but be forewarned: it's deceptively easy to do simple stuff in RoR but I found it dishearteningly difficult to use it to create anything real even after spending a lot of time, energy and money (see http://www.danshafer.com/onemind/?q=node/43). As for REALBasic vs. Revolution, Johnathan Lynch is basically right on target with his comments. I'd add one more: unless you already know BASIC syntax and/or have some familiarity with a Visual Basic-type environment, Real isn't going to be very easy to learn or use. And as far as I can tell, database stuff is far more mature and accessible in Rev than in Real. On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will. Could you please elaborate on the second question is asked: 2) Revolution vs Ruby on Rails? You mean to say you use Revolution to write browser enabled web-apps? Something I could access with Firefox? If so, I'd love to hear more. Thanks. Michael On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: If you search the archives, you will find countless RunRev Vs. Real Basic discussions. I think it breaks down to your needs and your programming style. For me, RunRev and Transcript just fit with my brain really well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
This is different from what Dan is talking about, if I understand correctly. You can have a Rev application that stores and retrieves data from the internet, and there are multiple ways to accomplish this. I am currently adapting Task Mage for file sharing from FTP sites. Thanks Dan, my understanding of some of the terminology is somewhat weak at times. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter question
Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm not really 100% sure to be honest. I think it's because in my case I have to account for filtering with only a partial string. So for example, if my user enters a, the filter needs to return any records where say the third item of each line begins with a. Right. That's where my solution breaks down. It assumes that the Filter field is always complete before filtering occurs. I wonder if it would work with the addition of * at both ends of the Filter field? I don't see why that wouldn't work - then the filter will only be looking for a string of contiguous chars in that item of each line, rather than requiring the item to start or end with the chars. Phil Davis Because Phil's solution uses tabs around the filter string (tab fld filter tab), it doesn't work quite right for me. I tried a couple different modifications, including placing *'s between the filter string and the tabs, to make it work for me but couldn't find anything that worked in all cases. Hope that provides you with a little more information. Chris On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Hey, Chris, I know you probably don't have the time, but I am wondering why Phil's solution did not work. I use the filter command all the time and Phil had the correct syntax and useage, as far as I could see. Mostly just curiosity to find exceptions or tricky problems for future reference. Surprised it did not work. Thanks, Jim Ault Las Vegas On 3/14/06 11:01 AM, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Sarah. I ended up going with a solution similar to this to get the job done. I thought Phil's suggestion would have worked, and that's what I was trying to do, but unfortunately it didn't. But thanks to all who responded. Chris On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It might be faster to filter the list simply to reduce it to lines that contain the filter string anywhere, and then do a loop to check if the filter string is in the correct item. -- gather the original data and the required settings put fld List into tList put fld Filter into Filter put 3 into tItemNum -- do the first filter to reduce the list filter tList with * tFilter * -- loop through making sure it appears in the right item put empty into tMatches repeat for each line L in tList if item tItemNum of L contains tFilter then put L cr after tMatches end repeat -- remove the trailing cr delete last char of tMatches -- display the matching results put tMatches into fld Results Sarah On 3/14/06, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, To filter on column 3, are you using something like this? put fld list into tList filter tList \ with * tab * tab fld filter tab * put tList into fld list Phil Davis Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm trying to apply a filter to a list field. The columns of the field are tab delimited. I have a separate filter field that allows the user to apply a filter to the list based on whichever column is the current sort column. I can get the filter to work fine so long as the first column is selected, but anything else does not work. How can I apply a filter to a list based on say item 3 of each line of that list? Is that possible? Thanks, Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there is an increasing interest in being able to select some artworks and on the desktop app and push the date to a web app for general viewing. So I anticipate that the web apps would be VERY simple, and it might even be possible to push the date into something like PHP-Fusion or Joomla! There's no need to reinvent the wheel. I agree. You can definitely use Rev for this kind of app. I've done it. Even if you had an app that demanded a server-side database, Rev is ideal. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Amazon announced today a new online mass storage system called S3 (Simple Storage Service) that sounds amazingly good and really cheap. They've published sample code in a bunch of languages. I wonder if anyone here (you eavesdropping again, Andre, you crazy Brazilian?) would care to tackle writing a Rev UI for it. Could be way cool. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Object?
Garrett Hylltun asked: Is there a panel object that has the same style of rounded corner border like the tabpanel object? Or is there a way to achieve this using the tabpanel without the tab buttons on it? Had exactly the same problem yesterday. Jonathan Lynch answered: There is, of course, the rounded rectangle object. Came to this conclusion also, because I had no idea about: Sarah Reichelt also answered: Make a group, set the showBorder to true and adjust the width of the border until you get the right look. You may want to adjust the margins of the group to get the edges further away from the objects inside. Brilliant, gone back and replaced my ugly 2D rectangle with a proper border. Looks so good I think I'll create a few more groups and place borders around them. Thanks Garrett for asking the question:-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
to many mails
dont send any mails - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: to many mails
dont send any mails See the bottom of this email, a list that you singed up for, for information on how to unsubscribe yourself. Scott Kane -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: to many mails
Then read the link at the bottom of your email and usub, dude, just the way you subscribed. dont send any mails - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vista Vis
For those who are not on the beta team, or have not seen MS Vista running there are some screenshots (very poor ones) available at the link below (run by MSDN). Ignore the tripe about being the best operating system available. It's as close to OSX as they can get without a law suit. g http://blogs.msdn.com/conblog/archive/2006/03/14/550826.aspx Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
POP 3 SMTP
Hi, I'm going to write a small application to assist myself and fellow moderators for Usenet. The home server sends requests for approval using email accounts, so no NNTP direct injection is needed. What I'm after is an example of POP3 and SMTP with Rev. I've looked at a couple and they don't seem to work (I'm testing on Win XP Pro). All thoughts, comments and abuse welcomes. g Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: POP 3 SMTP
for approval using email accounts, so no NNTP direct injection is needed. That should read NNTP direct injection is *not* needed. Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
On 3/14/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Here's the press release (watch for wrap): http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060p=irol-newsArticleID=830815highlight= and here's the service info: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
(no subject)
-- http://www.ecoquest.com/chendric ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: POP 3 SMTP
On 3/15/06, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm going to write a small application to assist myself and fellow moderators for Usenet. The home server sends requests for approval using email accounts, so no NNTP direct injection is needed. What I'm after is an example of POP3 and SMTP with Rev. I've looked at a couple and they don't seem to work (I'm testing on Win XP Pro). I have a library for each, which you can get from http://www.troz.net/Rev/libraries.html. I'm a Mac person so they have only been extensively tested on Macs, but it shouldn't be any different on Windows. Each library comes with a demo stack for testing. Let me know if you have any problems or if you have any feature requests. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Thanks for being speedier than me, Howard! I actually put a link in my original email but apparently managed to hit the backspace key before sending. On 3/14/06, Howard Bornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/14/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Here's the press release (watch for wrap): http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060p=irol-newsArticleID=830815highlight= and here's the service info: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Regarding the inability to trash certain standalones that are transferred from Mac to Windows, it does appear that I can trash the standalone in Windows using control-alt-delete. But to prevent the problem in the first place, you are correct, Scott, that quitting the program through the Quit command, rather than the close box in the titlebar prevents the problem. Thus, the solution seems to be to not build in a close box in the standalone titlebar. Thanks Scott. I love this group. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 3/14/06 5:35:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Can't delete standalone in Windows To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Cannot delete (the program). Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file in not currently in use. Use the CTRL + Delete key. You'll see your app running there still. You can close it from there. To avoid this be sure to implicitly call Quit in the application when closing down. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Can't delete standalone in Windows
Steve, are correct, Scott, that quitting the program through the Quit command, rather than the close box in the titlebar prevents the problem. Thus, the solution seems to be to not build in a close box in the standalone titlebar. A better solution is to place the Quit command in the On CloseStack event... Then it'll work with the title bar as well. :-) Scott. I love this group. The people here are awesome! They've really helped me a heap and I am very grateful to be able to pitch in sometimes. Cheers Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Dan, It's based on REST and SOAP... I'll try to cook something for it on the weekend! :D (I wonder, we sometimes really need a SOAP library) Cheers andre On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Amazon announced today a new online mass storage system called S3 (Simple Storage Service) that sounds amazingly good and really cheap. They've published sample code in a bunch of languages. I wonder if anyone here (you eavesdropping again, Andre, you crazy Brazilian?) would care to tackle writing a Rev UI for it. Could be way cool. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Stephen, you asked, and you shall receive: http://www.amazon.com/gp/ browse.html/ref=sc_fe_l_2/102-6090063-3048902?% 5Fencoding=UTF8node=16427261no=3435361me=A36L942TSJ2AJA the link... Cheers andre On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Amazon announced today a new online mass storage system called S3 (Simple Storage Service) that sounds amazingly good and really cheap. They've published sample code in a bunch of languages. I wonder if anyone here (you eavesdropping again, Andre, you crazy Brazilian?) would care to tackle writing a Rev UI for it. Could be way cool. -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: POP 3 SMTP
Hi Scott, Don't know if you checked it out yet, but I have a pretty straightforward harness wrapped around Sean Shao's excellent libSmtp253 available. It's called altEmailHarness at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm (bottom of the page) best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Hey Andre, You coming to RevConWest this year? I know you haven't missed one yet :-) -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Chipp, not only I plan to come, but, I plan something huge The only issue is that the day has only 24h and I simply can't code enough! I think that in couple days, you guys will see a very nice annoucement. I really want to go this year, as a sponsor, same as last year! and I promisse that two weeks before RevConWest, I'll take a conversation english course so that I arrive there with less accent! Cheers andre On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hey Andre, You coming to RevConWest this year? I know you haven't missed one yet :-) -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
This is pretty neat. yes, anyone going for a REV library for this? Just the existence of a REV library along with Java, Ruby, C# and PERL would get Rev some more legitimacy out there... sqb On 3/14/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Here's the press release (watch for wrap): http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060p=irol-newsArticleID=830815highlight= and here's the service info: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Doa Rev Interface?
You coming to RevConWest this year? I know you haven't missed one yet :-) Wish we had more developers down under. RevConOz would be great. Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Folks, I am looking into it right now. The authentication needs HMAC/SHA1 encryption, do we have that in Rev? If we can assemble the AWS authentication the rest is pretty easy. Cheers andre On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: This is pretty neat. yes, anyone going for a REV library for this? Just the existence of a REV library along with Java, Ruby, C# and PERL would get Rev some more legitimacy out there... sqb On 3/14/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan -- Link, please if you have itGoogle doesn't know about his yet. Here's the press release (watch for wrap): http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060p=irol- newsArticleID=830815highlight= and here's the service info: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Andre, your English is FINE! and you're funny too! It will be great to see your smiling self again... sqb Chipp, not only I plan to come, but, I plan something huge The only issue is that the day has only 24h and I simply can't code enough! I think that in couple days, you guys will see a very nice annoucement. I really want to go this year, as a sponsor, same as last year! and I promisse that two weeks before RevConWest, I'll take a conversation english course so that I arrive there with less accent! Cheers andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The long answer on when to use a function vs command
Hello listeroos, Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at least two examples each with parameters and how to call/use them. Much appreciated, Tom Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move...
Dan Shafer wrote: Web applications in the sense Ruby on Rails defines them cannot be written in Revolution. Since that definition requires the Ruby language and that it be on rails, nothing can satisfy it except Ruby on Rails. :) But DHTML (or AJAX* as the kids now call it) is just ASCII, and Transcript is unusually adept at parsing, concatenating, and merging text. And behind the presentation layer a database is a database, and interfacing it is always only as graceful as the self-discipline of the developer, regardless of the language. Frameworks are not a new invention, and certainly not unique to RoR. If the goal is to meet someone else's very specific definition of a development paradigm, sure, Transcript may not be able to do exactly that. But if the goal is to deliver the benefits of productive, flexible systems, Transcript can prove quite capable in ways that may surprise. Extra bonus points: With Rev you have the option of moving beyond Web 2.0 as in http://maps.google.com/, and moving right up to Web 3.0 a la http://earth.google.com/. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com * I'm so old when I hear Ajax I think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The long answer on when to use a function vs command
On 3/14/06 10:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listeroos, Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at least two examples each with parameters and how to call/use them. In general, you use functions when you want to return some value, and you use commands to execute things. However, both constructs allow you to do both, so it's really a matter of preference. An example of a typical function: on mouseUp put addEmUp(5,10,20) into field 1 end mouseUp function addEmUp pNum1,pNum2,pNum3 put pNum1+pNum2+pNum3 into tTotal return tTotal end addEmUp and a typical command: on mouseUp NotifyUser We're done! end mouseUp on NotifyUser pMsg put Just wanted to tell you: pMsg into tText answer tText end NotifyUser However you could (if you wanted to), reverse them: A function as a command: on mouseUp addEmUp 5,10,20 put the result into field 1 end mouseUp on addEmUp pNum1,pNum2,pNum3 put pNum1+pNum2+pNum3 into tTotal return tTotal end addEmUp A command as a function: on mouseUp get NotifyUser(We're done!) end mouseUp function NotifyUser pMsg put Just wanted to tell you: pMsg into tText answer tText end NotifyUser Your call as to how to use them... but in general, a function returns a value and a command doesn't. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The long answer on when to use a function vs command
Also, one important thing to notice is that commands (I am the only one that call them handlers?) do travel the message path so you can use all the message path 'manipulators' to work on them. For example for a simple timeout routine: on timeout answer Timeout end timeout on doSomething local tTimeoutMsgID send timeout to me in 15 seconds put the result into tTimeoutMsgID -- Stores the message ID for the send in time operation doSomethingThatWillTakeTime cancel tTimeoutMsgID end doSomething So if the doSomethingThatWillTakeTime takes more than 15 seconds the timeout message will trigger, if not, the cancel operation will cancel the pendingMessage. This behaviour is much more complicate to achieve using functions for you can't send a function in time. My *style* is Cases when I use Commands/Handlers: When the code should be used with a 'send in time' opetation. When the command should be considered an Event, as in UI Events, Server transaction events, game workflow events. When I want OOP-style inheritance, like messages travelling up the message path from object-card-stack. Cases when I use functions: all the quick routines that simply are supposed to receive arguments and output results. All the repetitive tasks, if I identiy a piece of code that is used in two or more handlers, I make that piece a function and remove it from the handler. I tend to think like Commands own the code and functions are handy things that Commands use. When I think a program, I think which events will happen, I then code them as Commands/Messages/Handlers then I make all the functions needed by those handlers. Thats how I think, which, I think is not how everyone thinks... Cheers andre On Mar 15, 2006, at 1:46 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/14/06 10:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listeroos, Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at least two examples each with parameters and how to call/use them. In general, you use functions when you want to return some value, and you use commands to execute things. However, both constructs allow you to do both, so it's really a matter of preference. An example of a typical function: on mouseUp put addEmUp(5,10,20) into field 1 end mouseUp function addEmUp pNum1,pNum2,pNum3 put pNum1+pNum2+pNum3 into tTotal return tTotal end addEmUp and a typical command: on mouseUp NotifyUser We're done! end mouseUp on NotifyUser pMsg put Just wanted to tell you: pMsg into tText answer tText end NotifyUser However you could (if you wanted to), reverse them: A function as a command: on mouseUp addEmUp 5,10,20 put the result into field 1 end mouseUp on addEmUp pNum1,pNum2,pNum3 put pNum1+pNum2+pNum3 into tTotal return tTotal end addEmUp A command as a function: on mouseUp get NotifyUser(We're done!) end mouseUp function NotifyUser pMsg put Just wanted to tell you: pMsg into tText answer tText end NotifyUser Your call as to how to use them... but in general, a function returns a value and a command doesn't. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making the move... [way OT]
Richard Gaskin wrote: -- snip -- * I'm so old when I hear Ajax I think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax. I think of the jingle I heard on TV as a kid: http://pdslabs.net/ajax-foaming-cleanser-50a.wav Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Howard- Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 5:56:33 PM, you wrote: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 ...it's got a BitTorrent interface !!! -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Slightly OT] Amazon's New Storage Plan - Someone Do a Rev Interface?
Mark, it still required HMAC/SHA1 authentication which I think our current implementation of encrypt can't generate... Cheers andre On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Howard- Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 5:56:33 PM, you wrote: http://aws.amazon.com/s3 ...it's got a BitTorrent interface !!! -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can someone show me a CRM solution
Ken, I've seen the screens for mac and the project part... those grid fields are amazing, are they stacked objects? the wonderfull popup inside flds to select executive producer and stuff, pretty cool Cheers andre On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/14/06 2:17 PM, Thom Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If possible, could someone point me towards a CRM solution created with runrev. It's vertical market for the entertainment industry: http://www.inentertainment.com/ Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: to many mails
Stephen Barncard wrote: Then read the link at the bottom of your email and usub, dude, just the way you subscribed. Actually, it's possible he doesn't know how he got subscribed. The last time I looked, there was a checkbox that subscribed you to the list when you downloaded the trial version. If you don't notice and don't uncheck it, here you are. Most people understand what to do, but some others don't know what a mailing list is and don't know why they are being flooded. You and I, on the other hand, understand why we are being flooded and we put up with it anyway. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can someone show me a CRM solution
On 3/14/06 11:57 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, I've seen the screens for mac and the project part... those grid fields are amazing, are they stacked objects? the wonderfull popup inside flds to select executive producer and stuff, pretty cool Thanks! Richard did the basis for the grid fields, which I added and modified later on... they're not stacked objects but multiple objects in a group (a main field with gridlines turned on, buttons over each column for titles, invisible buttons between column headers to get the drag-resizing ability, a bunch of custom properties and a library to handle it all). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can someone show me a CRM solution
Ken, Okay, you can say that I am officially amazed :D You know, you should take grabs of all those stuff, create slide show and we can have a silent session at RevConWest called watch and wonder... We can throw in some Jerry Daniels interfaces and Scott Rossi marvels, then, after, we could create a military scale extraction plan to remove you guys from the building before people started asking How on earth can those things be done ;-) Andre On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/14/06 11:57 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, I've seen the screens for mac and the project part... those grid fields are amazing, are they stacked objects? the wonderfull popup inside flds to select executive producer and stuff, pretty cool Thanks! Richard did the basis for the grid fields, which I added and modified later on... they're not stacked objects but multiple objects in a group (a main field with gridlines turned on, buttons over each column for titles, invisible buttons between column headers to get the drag- resizing ability, a bunch of custom properties and a library to handle it all). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The long answer on when to use a function vs command
Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello listeroos, Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at least two examples each with parameters and how to call/use them. This may help: http://hyperactivesw.com/functions.html -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The long answer on when to use a function vs command
Hi Tom, Here are some simple ways I figure out whether to use a command or a function in a given situation. A function name can naturally take on the role of a noun in a sentence. Or in RunRev terms, it can naturally fill the role of a containerName. A good function name can really improve the readability of the code in those places where it is used. put selectedTunes() into fld tuneList put cardObjectIDs(firstCard) into tObjectList if errorCount() 3 then... In each of the above cases, a function name takes the place of a subprocess that is probably secondary to the purpose of the calling handler. That secondary code is moved to a place of its own, where it can be appreciated for its value instead of cursed as a distraction, as it might be if it were coded inline. Without functions, code would be a lot harder to read. A command name can be a short imperative sentence without the spaces: refreshMembersList closeCurrentScreen startMotor moveRobotArm left,5 -- this one has 2 parameters If at a given spot in your code, you can describe what needs to be done in a short sentence like the ones above, a command will probably serve well in that spot. This isn't exactly what you asked for, but maybe it helps. Phil Davis Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello listeroos, Can someone give the long answer on when is it best to use a function versus a command? I have a lot to write of both commands and functions and have been overly confusing myself. Please give at least two examples each with parameters and how to call/use them. Much appreciated, Tom Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
