Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
You keep missing the obvious. Whether you call it HTML or FauxML or whatever you like... is defined to specify boldface text. is defined to specify paragraphs is defined to indicate metadata that is NOT part of the contents. tags are defined to be ignored. Very simple concept, consistently applied, and not surprising or bizarre in the least. Dar Scott wrote: > I don't follow this logic: > >TextEdit can render HTML. >TextEdit removes title. >Rev fields remove title. >Therefore... >Rev field can render HTML. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Codebase Database API
On 8/9/06 6:52 AM, "Robert Sneidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bob, would the ODBC connection work for you here? >> >> Mark > > I suppose it would. I didn't look very far, but I searched for ODBC > in the A-Z help section and came up empty. I will look again. I think > Codebase has ODBC support. Robert, ODBC is based on SQL actually. You dream avoid SQL, so ODBC is not a way for you in this case. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
VS: Purchasing Valentina
This is all I needed to know. A happy customer and the schedule of getting the keys. Thank you Dave! Sakari >I recently purchased a license. The response (with all registration >keys) was extremely fast. > >I noticed that Ruslan has responded to your mail already. He responds >with the same speed (or faster) to technical queries too. You'll be >amazed. > >Cheers >Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Codebase Database API
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, would the ODBC connection work for you here? Mark I suppose it would. I didn't look very far, but I searched for ODBC in the A-Z help section and came up empty. I will look again. I think Codebase has ODBC support. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On 09/08/06, Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not do the following? insert the script of group analogClock into back Now all the scripts are in the message path and you don't need 'send' or use value, etc. Ah! I have known about backscripts and frontscripts for some time but never really understood their utility. Thanks. Further, write your first handler to know what to do... moveClockHands "random", 15,2 will tell it to call the random function using 15 & 2, then move the hands Yes, on reflection I thinks this is perhaps the best course. I was caught up with making my initial solution work - come what may - to the exclsion of some simplicity. Still I have learned some new tricks along the way and received some great help in the process. Thank you again. -- Regards Ian === Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: bar Not that the title tags are in the body and still not rendered by TextEdit. However, if I replace "title" by "foo", "bar" is visible in TextEdit. Revolution does the same, if I set the htmlText of a field to above html code. I don't follow this logic: TextEdit can render HTML. TextEdit removes title. Rev fields remove title. Therefore... Rev field can render HTML. Try this (similar to above): a b TextEdit will render the multiple spaces correctly as a single space. Revolution fields will not. That is because Revolution does not render HTML. It does not even try. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On 8/8/06 1:58 PM, "Ian McKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Dar - I revisited your suggestion for a custom command and made > the handler work. > > A function seemed more appropriate to what I wanted to do as it > returned a value (thats why I had thought of using the 'get' command > to get access to the RESULT and it works) but it's as if the send > command only accepts one or no paramenters in situations like this. > > send "moveClockHands randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" doesn't work > > but send "moveClockHands randomTime(15)" to group "analogClock"and > send "moveClockHands randomTime()" to group "analogClock" both work > > My solution was to convert the function randomTime to a custom command > but retain its RETURN command. > > This gives the following 2 stage solution > > send "randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" > send "moveClockHands the result" to group "analogClock" > Why not do the following? insert the script of group analogClock into back Now all the scripts are in the message path and you don't need 'send' or use value, etc. You could do this on openstack,preopenstack, showAnalogClock, enableAnalogClock. opencard, etc if you do... on returnValuesToCallingHandler pFirstFactor, pSecondFactor return ((pFirstFactor*10) + pSecondFactor) end returnValuesToCallingHandler on processData set the itemdel to tab returnValuesToCallingHandler 15, 2 put the result into ansFromAbove -- do more work end processData Further, write your first handler to know what to do... moveClockHands "random", 15,2 will tell it to call the random function using 15 & 2, then move the hands Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IRC Client
I know there was a contest a while back to write an IRC client in Rev... Did anything ever come of that? Does anyone know where one might exist? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: internal SQL queries
Yes, filter is very fast, but not always the fastest, yet rarely far off. You could do the variable column filter string, perhaps as put cr & coolDataTable & tab into foundLines put "*"&tab into C get item 1 to colNeeded-1 of (C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C&C) filter foundLines with (it & IDnum & tab&"*") Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/8/06 1:34 PM, "Josh Mellicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought of filter, but the problem is the ID column always has to > be the first one, right? > > That's fine for data fields where there is only one ID column, but > there might be several... > > > I've been thinking one could ascertain the column number of the > desired ID column, then make a certain number of tabs, like: > > put itemOffset(locatorColumnHeader,p) into locatorColNo > > > > REPEAT locatorColNo -1 times >put tab & "*" after theNumberOfTabsNeededToGetToDesiredColumn > END REPEAT > > Then filter with > > theNumberOfTabsNeededToGetToDesiredColumn & locatorValue & tab & "*" > > > something like that... > > - > > So FILTER is definitely faster than a REPEAT loop going through all > lines of a variable, right? > > (because FILTER has to look at every line anyway, right?) > > > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Jim Ault wrote: > >> I would try this approach, although not the only one: >> --- >> get cr & whichDataFld & tab >> filter it with ( cr & locatorColNo &tab &"*") >> -- now you have a list of one line >> -- this filter pattern will insure only column 1 and >> -- whole matches between the cr and tab.. >> -- no need to redo your IDs >> --the last tab is appended to 'it' since you could have a last line >> table >> entry with only an ID and you would want to located it. It is the >> last line >> and has empty values, perhaps by mistake. >> >> if the number of lines in it > 1 then >>answer "Multiple IDs found "& (the number of lines in it) >>return empty >> else if the number of lines in it = 0 then >>answer "ID " & locatorColNo & " could not be found" >>return empty >> else >> return item dataColNo of it >> end if >> -- >> Jim Ault >> Las Vegas >> >> On 8/7/06 11:47 AM, "Josh Mellicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Here is a function I wrote to retrieve data from a table field. >>> >>> All it needs is: >>> >>> whichDataFld - the long name of the data field >>> locatorColumnHeader - assumes the top row is a header row with the >>> column name, this is which column to use to locate the correct row >>> locatorValue - this is the value in the column with the header >>> "locatorColumnHeader" that tells you you have the right row >>> headerOfDataToGet - this is the column containing the data you want >>> >>> >>> FUNCTION getDataFromDataFld >>> whichDataFld,locatorColumnHeader,locatorValue,headerOfDataToGet >>> put the text of whichDataFld into p >>> set itemdel to tab >>> put itemOffset(locatorColumnHeader,p) into locatorColNo >>> put itemOffset(headerOfDataToGet,p) into dataColNo >>> REPEAT with x = 2 to the number of lines of p >>> IF item locatorColNo of line x of p = locatorValue THEN exit >>> REPEAT >>> END REPEAT >>> return item dataColNo of line x of p >>> END getDataFromDataFld >>> >>> >>> >>> So if your table field is: >>> >>> ID name color food >>> 5Kenblue cheese >>> 7 Jerry greenpizza >>> 21Sarah redsushi >>> >>> >>> you could say >>> >>> put getDataFromDataFld(whichDataFld,ID,7,"food") into tData >>> >>> RESULT: "pizza" >>> >>> >>> What I don't like about this handler is that it must scan every line >>> to find the right row... there must be a faster way to write this, >>> no? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: >>> Dear group, is it possible to query [tab] delimited data stored in fields or containers within a stack using SQL? e.g. without any external database engine or database files or connections... All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription >>> preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Just a suggestion - Derek Bump (Dreamscape Software) did some experimenting with css and rev's htmltext a couple of years ago. You might want to check it out. The simple code there did help quite a bit with translating to and from (especially to) real web pages and seemed to scale font sizes pretty well. http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/products/htmltocss.zip I went in and tweaked a few things for my use on my copy, but it's quite useful as is. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There would be no assumption that a property named "taggedText" would render html pages. I agree Whoops. I think the partial quote might misrepresent Roger. There is an "if" in the previous sentence: I think that RunTime made a bad choice in naming that property "htmlText". If it was never intended to render the full html spec, then it should have been named something like "taggedText". There would be no assumption that a property named "taggedText" would render html pages. That's my two cents. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Dar, No, I opened an html page with the following code in TextEdit while not ignoring RTF commands (isn't it funny that TextEdit uses the same option to en/disable HTML and RTF?): bar Not that the title tags are in the body and still not rendered by TextEdit. However, if I replace "title" by "foo", "bar" is visible in TextEdit. Revolution does the same, if I set the htmlText of a field to above html code. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Download ErrorLib at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html and get full control of error handling in Revolution. Op 9-aug-2006, om 1:06 heeft Dar Scott het volgende geschreven: On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:22 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Apple's TextEdit application behaves exactly like Revolution fields in this respect. Are you looking at clipboardData["html"]? I don't think TextEdit is creating bad HTML. I think Revolution is using the same function to create htmlText as it does to create clipboardData["html"]? Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I set table column width in table fields
Equal column widths: set the tabstops of fld 1 to 250 different column widths: set the tabstops of fld 1 to 24,250,80,80,512 Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Download ErrorLib at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html and get full control of error handling in Revolution. Op 9-aug-2006, om 1:14 heeft David ResSeguie het volgende geschreven: Hi, Can anyone tell how to change the width of columns in table fields, so that the contents fit? Thanks, David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I set table column width in table fields
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Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Bill Marriott wrote: Seriously, this is a stretch. If people really believe that, where is the outcry over the handling of white space? If you really believe that, then why haven't you submitted such bugs to BZ? If you try submitting a white space bug (I thought one was submitted, but that may have been before BZ), what are the chances of it being marked "not a bug"? If you think high, then you know in your heart that htmlText is not HTML. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Sean Shao wrote:
put value("randomTime(5,2)", group "analogClock")
There are some limitations to value() when working with sending
arrays and the result of arithmetic. At times arrays are simply
empty values and numbers have numberFormat applies with possible
resulting loss of info.
Assuming I didn't goof in my tests, it is like this (with
corresponding send info):
***
value()
array number
parameter OKOK
resultOKfail
***
value(, )
array number
parameter -- --
resultfail OK
***
send to
array number
parameterfail fail
result OKOK
***
send to in time
array number
parameterfail fail
result ----
This is bug 699 which RunRev has changed to an enhancement request.
Dar Scott
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Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:22 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Apple's TextEdit application behaves exactly like Revolution fields in this respect. Are you looking at clipboardData["html"]? I don't think TextEdit is creating bad HTML. I think Revolution is using the same function to create htmlText as it does to create clipboardData["html"]? Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There would be no assumption that a property named "taggedText" would render html pages. I agree. -- Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Bill Marriott wrote: What do you base this assumption on? Oh, I dunno, the name of the function beginning with "HTML?" The documentation which states, "Specifies the contents of a field, with its text formatting represented as HTML tags and special characters represented as HTML entities." Look at what that actually says. It says "with its text formatting represented as HTML tags". It never ever says the field displays HTML. It is clear that htmlText was never intended to have to do with HTML. What is the lowest most functionality of HTML? The handling of white space. The htmlText property does not do that in output or input. Metacard and RunRev were clear some time ago in that this is not a bug. BUT, I think it would be a good idea to expand htmlText (when fetched) to be a string that would display the same content (or very similar) content when dumped into an HTML display. I suspect that anything that can be displayed in a field can be represented in HTML. This enhancement will probably break scripts, though. (Links have completely separate semantics, though, and will not transfer completely.) Links are handled. They are? There can be no doubt that the intention of the function is to a) export the styled content of a text field as faithfully as possible using HTML A candidate for an enhancement request. I'd vote for this. I'm not sure how it should handle dontWrap. and b) to render incoming HTML as properly as possible. Nonsense. It can't render HTML. No, it's exactly the right thing to do if you're implementing a function named HTMLText() that is designed to process HTML tags at best-effort. It is clear from its behavior that that was not what it was designed for. No effort was made to make that happen. Would you have released htmlText the way it is if you made it to render HTML? So removing is bizarre. Somebody complained or asked for it and it was tacked on. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQL, shared access to db // Codebase Database API
On 8/8/06 11:36 PM, "Robert Sneidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Holy Grail for my project would be if a driver could be written, > perhaps for something like a Codebase server which can access xBase > tables directly, where I could open shared tables and indexes, and > then peruse through the data in precicely the same way as I did in > Foxpro. I personally think t his would be very advantageous for > Revolution in general, as there must be a lot of users who don't want > to learn SQL, they just want to: > open a table > sort it > find some data > stuff some variables > get user input > check for data validity > lock the record/table > check that the record has not been updated > write the data back > unlock the table. Robert, all this present right now in Valentina 2. And let me repeat, IMHO in better way then Fox did have. > All in a shared environment. (meaning multiple users can open the > file at once) > In SQL sorting, finding, and rewriting data in any kind of complex > way forces the developer to learn complex SQL syntax, which is what > Revolution promises to avoid. * When Revolution did promise this? RevDB is built around SQL as I see. * why you say SQL it is complex. It is s simple actually. SELECT f1, f2, f3 FROM T1 WHERE f1 > 5 and f1 < 25 or f3 LIKE 'Pet%' ORDER BY f2 Desc 4 lines of code on natural English. Try this write in API style. Will be about 10-20 lines of code. As for Fox so for Valentina's API style. And the main advantage of SQL over API style is -- SQL was invented for access to REMOTE dbs. Above SQL is just few bytes which will be sent via inet. All work is done on SERVER, and back you get data. Now tell me please scenario for API style? You must issue many commands between client and server computers, load to client may be even indexes, do calculations on client side and send it to server SQL wins on client-server environment. No doubts here. > Valentina seems to provide this using it's API methodology, right > but I was given to understand that the files > created using the non-sql method are not opened shared. Hmm, not right. > This is critical for my application. I suppose I can create a stack that can > open tables and return data to the user's runtime apps, but I am still > bottlenecking the traffic, and any request for a lot of data will inevitably > bring other users to a halt. You have told me about Code Base SERVER. Right? So you are ready to use SERVER? I.e. You are ready to use Client Server model in your app. Right? Then you talk NOT about SHARED access to db files, but about CLIENT - SERVER access. And Valentina is able do this with help of V4REV and Valentina Server. What we do not support in Valentina and never wont - is SHARED ACCESS. SHARED ACCESS means that * db files are on some server computer, * there is no SERVER application * client applications open db files in shared mode. This is much slower then client/server model. Mainly because in this way not exists cache on server side. > I can learn SQL alright, but time is my enemy. Already people are > talking about "the future of SBT" around the office, meaning they > want to get rid of it. I want to port it and make it what they want > it to be. I am stuck at the database model, and I need a solution > soon. If Valentina can provide a non-sql way to access tables and > indexes directly, in a relational model, I would be very interested > in knowing how. Since I already purchased Valentina, I am willing to > give it another go. Robert, In Valentina for Revolution Examples folder exists API_Way folder, Where we have examples more than in SQL way. :) Please check this API example. They show all major operations. - About indexes: to create index with some complex expression, you need create in the table so called Method = aka Calculated field = aka Virtual field. E.g. On Valentina list present Jon (jda), he make in table index that join all other fields, and mark it as indexed by words. In this way he get ability do search by all fields of table. It is very reach feature. By features exactly like as in Fox. Also you can note that exists RAM tables - for tmp data. Also you can create these Methods marked as Temporary. Then they will not be stored into system tables. In 2.4 we have add also ability to create in a Table - Temporary field. Nice thing here is again - it is not stored into sys tables, and its data are stored on .tmp volume. So in case of any failure, you main .dat file is not touched at all. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subs
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Sorry I ever mentioned I found it bizarre. Nothing we can do about it. It is what it is. I don't use htmlText because it's too limited and limiting. Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Ian McKnight wrote: Thanks Dar - I revisited your suggestion for a custom command and made the handler work. A function seemed more appropriate to what I wanted to do as it returned a value (thats why I had thought of using the 'get' command to get access to the RESULT and it works) but it's as if the send command only accepts one or no paramenters in situations like this. Yeah, I don't think sending a 'get' is supported. send "moveClockHands randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" doesn't work This should eval randomTime(15,2) before sending. If it is in your message path, you will be OK. I made something in the path, but I get something wrong, too. but send "moveClockHands randomTime(15)" to group "analogClock"and send "moveClockHands randomTime()" to group "analogClock" both work weird. Something is amiss. Though, I would consider the 'get' as outside of what is intended, this is a bug. My solution was to convert the function randomTime to a custom command but retain its RETURN command. This gives the following 2 stage solution send "randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" For a command, remove the parens. Are you working with an old version? What you have will create a single parameter for the randomTime command. send "moveClockHands the result" to group "analogClock" Since things are acting weird, try send "randomTime 15,2" to group "analogClock" get the result send "moveClockHands it" to group "analogClock" I tend to keep the send parameter to a single command plus a comma delimited list of variable parameters, like this: send "advancePen m,n,x" ... This looks like a good place for a setProp in the group, if 'moveClockHands' will set the time rather than advance some amount. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: API Style + Navigational Model // was Codebase Database API
On 8/8/06 11:36 PM, "Robert Sneidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. A typical methodology of Visionpoint 2000 is to set an index > (ordering the table), seek for a record, and then stepping through > the table one record at a time, or issuing some kind of statement > that uses REST (from the current point through the rest of the table) > and a WHILE clause or FOR clause which are sometimes themselves > complex expressions. > But I am working with the actual table data > directly, and so am not limited by the constraints of a cursor. > To switch to SQL would mean rewriting my data access methodologies almost > from scratch, and that through thousands of code module files. The task is > daunting. Well, In Valentina 2 this methodology also is supported via ArraySet - that keep your ordered records and Table.RecID = ArraySet.Nth item We do not have like FoxPro - current filter on the whole table, Because you can have only one such filter Using ArraySets you are free to have several such sets in the same time.. -- >From other side: I do not see where SQL way beat you: curs = db.SqlSelect( "SELECT * FROM T ORDER BY f5" ) Now you have virtually table sorted by f5 and its index. Do your steps one by one ... Where is difference in methodology? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Codebase Database API
On 8/8/06 11:36 PM, "Robert Sneidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert, This question can be interesting to all, so I will CC it to both lists. > 2. Although virtually every SQL solution I have seen declares it is a true > Relational database, I have seen NOTHING which refers to creating relations > between tables (except perhaps in Valentina) and in Foxpro these relations > are created on the fly, again using existing indexes created with the complex > expressions briefly described above. Let me clarify here. Relational database simple uses Tables (aka Relations). Pure Realtional Database model do not have indexes, and do not have anything between tables. Relation between records of 2 tables, you establish simply BY VALUE. Later was invented such feature as FOREING KEY, and it is now in SQL standard. Yes, Valentina 2 extend this feature - FK and name it as LINK, as well as add two other kind of links to link records. So me point, that DBMS you mention above really have right say that they support Relational model. Valentina support Object-Relational model. FoxPro - was relational, but with a lots of low level API methods, which did allow you control db without SQL. In fact, I remember times when FoxPro was without any SQL..Or may be they was other DBF dialect (Clipper?) > I have gathered I think, that sub-queries, or joins are the method for doing > this, but again, what kind of performance hit do I take? > > And to do this I will have to learn the very decidedly non-friendly SQL join > syntax. Again to be fair...I not think that join is so unfriendly. And I can say that without joins and SQL to get the same result you will need write much more code in Fox, or even in Valentina 2 using its new API way. But in Valentina 2 this API way may result in some performance benefits.. So I think here is not so black and white. Exists trade-off Btw, just in case I give you this WIKI urls on few articles and LINK feature. http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:documen tation:vkernel:vlink:vlink Here about Database models: http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:documen tation:articles:articles Note, that in Valentina 2 we have introduce reach API, which allow control database totally without SQL. I claim that we have give new life to Navigational Model. If somebody have work with dbVista - one on famous db with Naviational model, will see how many cool things we have resolve in Valentina 2. But I cannot say that Navigational Model is best for every task. For example GROUP BY task is nightmare for it. And this is why it is so great that Valentina give you way easy use ANY form SEVERAL supported database models in your code in the same time! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Dar Scott wrote: > You are assuming that a field and htmlText has something to do with HTML. > > What do you base this assumption on? Oh, I dunno, the name of the function beginning with "HTML?" The documentation which states, "Specifies the contents of a field, with its text formatting represented as HTML tags and special characters represented as HTML entities." And the detailed list of supported, unsupported, and custom HTML tags which follows? Seriously, this is a stretch. Consider the Rev text field the equivalent of a WAP 1.0 browser, or something like that. It is a bonafide HTML presentation, to the extent of what Rev text fields are capable of rendering. A relatively complete set of text formatting is available. Images are incorporated as appropriate. Links are handled. And so on. I assume the only reason the rendering is not more complete are the limitations of the field control and Rev itself. There can be no doubt that the intention of the function is to a) export the styled content of a text field as faithfully as possible using HTML and b) to render incoming HTML as properly as possible. The element is specifically defined in the HTML specification: "The TITLE element is not considered part of the flow of text." > Stripping is bizarre. No, it's exactly the right thing to do if you're implementing a function named HTMLText() that is designed to process HTML tags at best-effort. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
Hi Thanks Dar - I revisited your suggestion for a custom command and made the handler work. A function seemed more appropriate to what I wanted to do as it returned a value (thats why I had thought of using the 'get' command to get access to the RESULT and it works) but it's as if the send command only accepts one or no paramenters in situations like this. send "moveClockHands randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" doesn't work but send "moveClockHands randomTime(15)" to group "analogClock"and send "moveClockHands randomTime()" to group "analogClock" both work My solution was to convert the function randomTime to a custom command but retain its RETURN command. This gives the following 2 stage solution send "randomTime(15,2)" to group "analogClock" send "moveClockHands the result" to group "analogClock" Thanks to everyone for your help. Regards ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: internal SQL queries
I thought of filter, but the problem is the ID column always has to be the first one, right? That's fine for data fields where there is only one ID column, but there might be several... I've been thinking one could ascertain the column number of the desired ID column, then make a certain number of tabs, like: put itemOffset(locatorColumnHeader,p) into locatorColNo REPEAT locatorColNo -1 times put tab & "*" after theNumberOfTabsNeededToGetToDesiredColumn END REPEAT Then filter with theNumberOfTabsNeededToGetToDesiredColumn & locatorValue & tab & "*" something like that... - So FILTER is definitely faster than a REPEAT loop going through all lines of a variable, right? (because FILTER has to look at every line anyway, right?) On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Jim Ault wrote: I would try this approach, although not the only one: --- get cr & whichDataFld & tab filter it with ( cr & locatorColNo &tab &"*") -- now you have a list of one line -- this filter pattern will insure only column 1 and -- whole matches between the cr and tab.. -- no need to redo your IDs --the last tab is appended to 'it' since you could have a last line table entry with only an ID and you would want to located it. It is the last line and has empty values, perhaps by mistake. if the number of lines in it > 1 then answer "Multiple IDs found "& (the number of lines in it) return empty else if the number of lines in it = 0 then answer "ID " & locatorColNo & " could not be found" return empty else return item dataColNo of it end if -- Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/7/06 11:47 AM, "Josh Mellicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is a function I wrote to retrieve data from a table field. All it needs is: whichDataFld - the long name of the data field locatorColumnHeader - assumes the top row is a header row with the column name, this is which column to use to locate the correct row locatorValue - this is the value in the column with the header "locatorColumnHeader" that tells you you have the right row headerOfDataToGet - this is the column containing the data you want FUNCTION getDataFromDataFld whichDataFld,locatorColumnHeader,locatorValue,headerOfDataToGet put the text of whichDataFld into p set itemdel to tab put itemOffset(locatorColumnHeader,p) into locatorColNo put itemOffset(headerOfDataToGet,p) into dataColNo REPEAT with x = 2 to the number of lines of p IF item locatorColNo of line x of p = locatorValue THEN exit REPEAT END REPEAT return item dataColNo of line x of p END getDataFromDataFld So if your table field is: ID name color food 5Kenblue cheese 7 Jerry greenpizza 21Sarah redsushi you could say put getDataFromDataFld(whichDataFld,ID,7,"food") into tData RESULT: "pizza" What I don't like about this handler is that it must scan every line to find the right row... there must be a faster way to write this, no? On Jul 21, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Dear group, is it possible to query [tab] delimited data stored in fields or containers within a stack using SQL? e.g. without any external database engine or database files or connections... All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Codebase Database API
Bob, would the ODBC connection work for you here? Mark -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Codebase-Database-API-tf2069423.html#a5713445 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, setting the htmlText of a field *should* process the (Revolution-supported) HTML in the text, otherwise setting the htmlText of a field would not be useful. The whole point is being able to use the supported html tags to mark up text and then have it displayed properly in a field. If you look at the documentation entry for htmlText, it is clear that this is exactly what this property is intended to do. If you are saying it shouldn't process unsupported HTML tags, that is something different. I'm not sure what it's behavior is. I use htmlText in a project to strip out html by setting the htmlText of a hidden field and then getting the text of that field (instead of htmlText). This neatly strips out the tags. I am, however, only using the Revolution-supported tags in my text. I don't know why it is striping out text between the tags. At 01:45 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:56 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Except that has a defined, special meaning that Rev knows about -- which is to specify the title of a document -- and that is by definition distinct from the content. The tag however, is undefined. I believe that it's appropriate to "strip" out the information between title tags and to preserve the information between "foo" tags. By reference, see: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/HTMLandSGML.html That is an HTML document. You are assuming that a field and htmlText has something to do with HTML. What do you base this assumption on? It is clear that htmlText is a view that is html-like. There is no reason to expect it to process HTML when it is dumped into the property. (Now, I do think htmlText when retrieved might be closer to HTML, such as the handling of white space, but that is a different issue. Maybe it is even possible for retrieved htmlText to closely render in HTML.) There is no reason to expect a field to process HTML when it is dumped into the field's htmlText property. Stripping is bizarre. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
An:New stacks uploaded to Rev Online
All, I have uploaded two stacks to Rev OnLine for your inspection. Catagory Stack Utilities FileUtility Games WarOfRoses The FileUtility stack allows for you to develop tools to be attached together in a layout that can operate on files in folders on your disks. It's pretty simple now but has a future. The Game is an educational and historical simulation of the War of the Roses of 15th century England. Enjoy, Glenn -- Glenn E. Fisher University of Houston - Retired 22402 Diane Dr. Spring, Tx 77373 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uh.edu/~fisher http://home.houston.rr.com/thegefishers/ http://homepage.mac.com/gefisher ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On Aug 8, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Ian McKnight wrote: get randomTime(5,2) put the result send "get randomTime(5,2)" to group "analogClock" put the result It seems Rev has a limited compiler when it comes to 'send'. I'm not even sure what the meaning of 'get' would be in the above situation. Your best bet would be to go with something more traditional. First decide whether you want a function or a custom command. For a function you would do this: put randomTime(5,2) -- or get randomTime(5,2) put it (You might be able to use value() to eval in the group, but that is to distracting for this email.) For a custom command (made with 'on') you would do this: randomTime 5,2 -- No Parens! put the result send "randomTime 5,2" to group "analogClock" put the result -- will not work with 'in time' Normally, 'the result' is used for errors, but it doesn't have to be. It is a handy way to get results from objects you send to. You can also return values with globals or with getProp. The description of the function sounds like something that should be a function, so I'd wonder why it isn't in the message path of the object that needed it. If it is used by a control in the group, then the group is in the message path. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Dar Scott wrote: > You are assuming that a field and htmlText has something to do with > HTML. > > What do you base this assumption on? > > It is clear that htmlText is a view that is html-like. There is no > reason to expect it to process HTML when it is dumped into the property. I think that RunTime made a bad choice in naming that property "htmlText". If it was never intended to render the full html spec, then it should have been named something like "taggedText". There would be no assumption that a property named "taggedText" would render html pages. That's my two cents. Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
Take a look at the "value" function, it's like "send" for functions :-)
put value("randomTime(5,2)", group "analogClock")
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Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:56 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Except that has a defined, special meaning that Rev knows about -- which is to specify the title of a document -- and that is by definition distinct from the content. The tag however, is undefined. I believe that it's appropriate to "strip" out the information between title tags and to preserve the information between "foo" tags. By reference, see: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/HTMLandSGML.html That is an HTML document. You are assuming that a field and htmlText has something to do with HTML. What do you base this assumption on? It is clear that htmlText is a view that is html-like. There is no reason to expect it to process HTML when it is dumped into the property. (Now, I do think htmlText when retrieved might be closer to HTML, such as the handling of white space, but that is a different issue. Maybe it is even possible for retrieved htmlText to closely render in HTML.) There is no reason to expect a field to process HTML when it is dumped into the field's htmlText property. Stripping is bizarre. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
On 8/8/06 7:24 AM, "Ian McKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone shed some light on this please? > I could keep the function and calling handler together but would > prefer to have all important scripts in one place. why are you sending "get randomTim(5,2)" instead of "randomTime(5,2)" I am not sure what you expect the group script container to do. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/8/06 7:24 AM, "Ian McKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I have a function 'randonTime' which accepts two parameters, the first > specifies whether a time should be in 5, 10 15 etc minute intervals, > the second specifies 12 or 24 hour clock and returns a valid time in > the form hh:mm. > > With the function handler in the same script as the calling handler ( a > button) > > get randomTime(5,2) > put the result > > works as expected. -- 12:45 6:15 21:55 19:25 etc > > However, when the function is placed in a group on the same card > > send "get randomTime(5,2)" to group "analogClock" > put the result > > only the minutes are return. -- :45 :15 :55 :25 > > The second parameter is ignored so the fuinction doesn't create an hour. > > Can anyone shed some light on this please? > I could keep the function and calling handler together but would > prefer to have all important scripts in one place. > > Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app to pull data from Amazon
RGould8, Are you sure you have set the permissions of the script to 755, i.e. correct execution rights, and does the script have line endings compatible with the operating system it is running on? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Download ErrorLib at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html and get full control of error handling in Revolution. Op 8-aug-2006, om 17:50 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: Dan, Well, I have followed the instructions and have put the PERL script on my web-server like the Amazon API instructions say: The part I'm having trouble with is how to get Revolution to talk to this PERL script and pass data to it. I try things like: put URL "www.mywebserver.com/itemsearch_rest.pl?Elvis" into databack but I get this error back: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app to pull data from Amazon
Dan,
Well, I have followed the instructions and have put the PERL script on
my web-server like the Amazon API instructions say:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
# This program shows how to use LWP::Simple to make an Amazon Web
# Services (AWS) REST request, and how to process the response with
# XML::XPath.
use strict;
use LWP::Simple qw($ua get);
use XML::XPath;
# Retrieve command line arguments and combine them with escaped space
characters.
die "Usage: $0 \n"
unless @ARGV;
my $keywords = join "%20", @ARGV;
# Define parts of the REST request.
my $baseurl = "http://webservices.amazon.com/onca/xml";;
my $service = "AWSECommerceService";
my $accesskey = "";
my $operation = "ItemSearch";
my $searchindex = "Books";
my $responsegroup = "Request,Small";
my $version = "2005-10-13";
# Assemble the REST request URL.
my $request =
"$baseurl?" .
"Service=$service&" .
"AWSAccessKeyId=$accesskey&" .
"Operation=$operation&" .
"Keywords=$keywords&" .
"SearchIndex=$searchindex&" .
"ResponseGroup=$responsegroup&" .
"Version=$version" ;
# Send the request using HTTP GET.
my $ua = new LWP::UserAgent;
$ua->timeout(30);
my $response = get($request);
# Process XML response with XPath.
my $xp = XML::XPath->new(xml => $response);
if ( $xp->find("//Error") )
{
print "There was an error processing your request:\n",
" Error code: ", $xp->findvalue("//Error/Code"), "\n",
" ", $xp->findvalue("//Error/Message"), "\n\n";
}
else
{
for (my $i = 1; $i <= 10; $i++)
{
if ( ! $xp->find("/ItemSearchResponse/Items/Item[$i]") )
{
last;
}
my @authors;
for (my $j = 1;
$j <= $xp->
findvalue("count(/ItemSearchResponse/Items/Item[$i]/ItemAttributes/Author)");
$j++)
{
push @authors, $xp->
findvalue("/ItemSearchResponse/Items/Item[$i]/ItemAttributes/Author[$j]");
}
print "Title: ", $xp->
findvalue("/ItemSearchResponse/Items/Item[$i]/ItemAttributes/Title"), "\n",
"Author: ", join(", ", @authors), "\n",
"ASIN: ", $xp->findvalue("/ItemSearchResponse/Items/Item[$i]/ASIN"),
"\n\n";
}
}
The part I'm having trouble with is how to get Revolution to talk to this
PERL script and pass data to it. I try things like:
put URL "www.mywebserver.com/itemsearch_rest.pl?Elvis" into databack
but I get this error back:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable
to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done
that
may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.
I'm wondering if perhaps the ?Elvis part isn't really what the PERL script is
expecting for a parameter. Do you know if there's another way to pass
parameters to that PERL script? My ISP doesn't give me SSH Telnet capability,
so
I need to pass/receive data via URLs.
In a message dated 8/3/06 6:13:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I've done a bit of work in this area but nothing ambitious. But I can
> answer
> your other question below. Yes, you do need a developer account.
>
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> > Do I need to get one
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Problems using Send and Functions with 2 parameters
Hi I have a function 'randonTime' which accepts two parameters, the first specifies whether a time should be in 5, 10 15 etc minute intervals, the second specifies 12 or 24 hour clock and returns a valid time in the form hh:mm. With the function handler in the same script as the calling handler ( a button) get randomTime(5,2) put the result works as expected. -- 12:45 6:15 21:55 19:25 etc However, when the function is placed in a group on the same card send "get randomTime(5,2)" to group "analogClock" put the result only the minutes are return. -- :45 :15 :55 :25 The second parameter is ignored so the fuinction doesn't create an hour. Can anyone shed some light on this please? I could keep the function and calling handler together but would prefer to have all important scripts in one place. Thanks. -- Regards Ian === Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Droplet app with AppleEvent
This is just a shot to help you quickly, but you might try to add the repeating test MyAppName is among the processes If true, it is now up and running. Don't the exact way of doing this, but hopefully this helps to with the timing. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 8/8/06 6:46 AM, "Zax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [sorry if I made double-post, I encountered mail problems] > > Hello, > > I would like my app made with Revolution 2.51 to react like a droplet when > dropping files or folders on the app icon. > I set "" as file type and it's ok: dropping something on my app icon > launches my app. > > For testing purpose, I wrote this code in my main stack: > > on appleEvent eClass,eID,eSender > request appleEvent data > answer eClass & return & "id =" && eID & return & "sender =" && eSender & > return & "data =" && quote & it & quote > pass appleEvent > end appleEvent > > Everything is OK when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is > *already opened*. In this case, "it" contains needed data. > But when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is *not opened*, > then my app is launched but no AppleEvent is sended :( > Maybe because the app is not loaded, so it can't receive the AppleEvent? > > So, can somebody help me? A droplet must work even the app is not launched, > otherwise it's not really a droplet! Do I have to add something in my > "openstack" handler? Or maybe add a "startup" handler with some special code > in it? > > Thanks in advance. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Droplet app with AppleEvent
Hi Zax, Maybe, the answer dialog is not available yet. What happens if you try the following in the mainstack of a standalone? on appleEvent beep end appleEvent If you don't hear a beep, it looks (sounds) like a bug. I don't remember seeing this bug in later versions, you might want to download a trial version and try building your application with the latest version. If above script works, you can try the following: on appleEvent eClass,eID,eSender request appleEvent data put eClass & return & "id =" && eID & return & "sender =" && eSender & ¬ return & "data =" && quote & it & quote into myEventData send "showEventData myEventData" to me in 10 millisecs end appleEvent on showEventData theData answer theData end showEventData Note that this is just a long shot. I'd have to try myself to be sure about this. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Download ErrorLib at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html and get full control of error handling in Revolution. Op 8-aug-2006, om 15:46 heeft Zax het volgende geschreven: [sorry if I made double-post, I encountered mail problems] Hello, I would like my app made with Revolution 2.51 to react like a droplet when dropping files or folders on the app icon. I set "" as file type and it's ok: dropping something on my app icon launches my app. For testing purpose, I wrote this code in my main stack: on appleEvent eClass,eID,eSender request appleEvent data answer eClass & return & "id =" && eID & return & "sender =" && eSender & return & "data =" && quote & it & quote pass appleEvent end appleEvent Everything is OK when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is *already opened*. In this case, "it" contains needed data. But when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is *not opened*, then my app is launched but no AppleEvent is sended :( Maybe because the app is not loaded, so it can't receive the AppleEvent? So, can somebody help me? A droplet must work even the app is not launched, otherwise it's not really a droplet! Do I have to add something in my "openstack" handler? Or maybe add a "startup" handler with some special code in it? Thanks in advance. -- Zax ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Droplet app with AppleEvent
[sorry if I made double-post, I encountered mail problems] Hello, I would like my app made with Revolution 2.51 to react like a droplet when dropping files or folders on the app icon. I set "" as file type and it's ok: dropping something on my app icon launches my app. For testing purpose, I wrote this code in my main stack: on appleEvent eClass,eID,eSender request appleEvent data answer eClass & return & "id =" && eID & return & "sender =" && eSender & return & "data =" && quote & it & quote pass appleEvent end appleEvent Everything is OK when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is *already opened*. In this case, "it" contains needed data. But when I drop something onto the app icon *and* my app is *not opened*, then my app is launched but no AppleEvent is sended :( Maybe because the app is not loaded, so it can't receive the AppleEvent? So, can somebody help me? A droplet must work even the app is not launched, otherwise it's not really a droplet! Do I have to add something in my "openstack" handler? Or maybe add a "startup" handler with some special code in it? Thanks in advance. -- Zax ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Purchasing Valentina
On 8 Aug 2006, at 12:36, Sakari wrote: If there's someone who has bought Valentina, could you help me please? I've been planning to buy Valentina for Revolution, but there's a few obstacles I've come by, so I'm asking here if you don't mind. First thing I came across is the website Valentina or the Paradigma Software has. It is absolutely weak. Won't go into details, but when I go to website with this kind of quality I start to wonder if the product itself is same quality. I wanted to ask someone in Paradigma if I would get registration key after ordering the product and there's not a single e-mail I could forward my problem. I'm still planning to buy the product, but really can't do that before I get answers to these questions. I recently purchased a license. The response (with all registration keys) was extremely fast. I noticed that Ruslan has responded to your mail already. He responds with the same speed (or faster) to technical queries too. You'll be amazed. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Purchasing Valentina
On 8/8/06 2:36 PM, "Sakari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Sakari, > If there's someone who has bought Valentina, could you help me please? > I've been planning to buy Valentina for Revolution, but there's a few > obstacles I've come by, so I'm asking here if you don't mind. > First thing I came across is the website Valentina or the Paradigma Software > has. It is absolutely weak. Won't go into details, but when I go to website > with this kind of quality I start to wonder if the product itself is same > quality. What you mean with weak ? > I wanted to ask someone in Paradigma if I would get registration key after > ordering the product and there's not a single e-mail I could forward my > problem. We do not provide emails on site to avoid spam. Right Lynn? We give on support pages ways to subscribe to Valentina main list and/or beta list > I'm still planning to buy the product, but really can't do that before I get > answers to these questions. You can ask me any tech issues, And you can ask Lynn any license issues. And you can ask any other question on Valentina lists. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Purchasing Valentina
If there's someone who has bought Valentina, could you help me please? I've been planning to buy Valentina for Revolution, but there's a few obstacles I've come by, so I'm asking here if you don't mind. First thing I came across is the website Valentina or the Paradigma Software has. It is absolutely weak. Won't go into details, but when I go to website with this kind of quality I start to wonder if the product itself is same quality. I wanted to ask someone in Paradigma if I would get registration key after ordering the product and there's not a single e-mail I could forward my problem. I'm still planning to buy the product, but really can't do that before I get answers to these questions. Sakari Ruoho Programmer Academica Information Oy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Exactly, Bill. Nothing bizarre about it. Thank you for looking up the reference. In reply to Dar's list of applications that do or don't: Apple's TextEdit application behaves exactly like Revolution fields in this respect. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Download ErrorLib at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html and get full control of error handling in Revolution. Op 8-aug-2006, om 12:56 heeft Bill Marriott het volgende geschreven: Except that has a defined, special meaning that Rev knows about -- which is to specify the title of a document -- and that is by definition distinct from the content. The tag however, is undefined. I believe that it's appropriate to "strip" out the information between title tags and to preserve the information between "foo" tags. By reference, see: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/HTMLandSGML.html "The behavior of WWW applications reading HTML documents and discovering tag or attribute names which they do not understand should be to behave as though, in the case of a tag, the whole tag had not been there but its content had, or in the case of an attribute, that the attribute had not been present." In this case, Rev "understands" the title tag, and correctly does not include it in the content. It does not understand the "foo" tag and therefore renders it as if the tag were not there. Dar Scott wrote: Actually, Dan is right. It is bizarre! My word processor doesn't do it. My calculator doesn't do it. The IP address field in preferences doesn't do it. A Revolution field is not a browser and it is not even an HTML displayer. It has a simple html-like markup view that covers the capabilities of of the field. Though it is similar to HTML, htmlText doesn't even attempt to be like HTML even in little things like representing whitespace. The title is way outside the scope of what htmlText does. Stripping and not is bizarre. It might be a clue that htmlText will become closer to HTML, but I suspect it is an ancient artifact. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Except that has a defined, special meaning that Rev knows about -- which is to specify the title of a document -- and that is by definition distinct from the content. The tag however, is undefined. I believe that it's appropriate to "strip" out the information between title tags and to preserve the information between "foo" tags. By reference, see: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/HTMLandSGML.html "The behavior of WWW applications reading HTML documents and discovering tag or attribute names which they do not understand should be to behave as though, in the case of a tag, the whole tag had not been there but its content had, or in the case of an attribute, that the attribute had not been present." In this case, Rev "understands" the title tag, and correctly does not include it in the content. It does not understand the "foo" tag and therefore renders it as if the tag were not there. Dar Scott wrote: > On Aug 7, 2006, at 2:27 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > >> No, it is what I expect. My internet browser behaves exactly the same. > > Actually, Dan is right. It is bizarre! > > My word processor doesn't do it. My calculator doesn't do it. The IP > address field in preferences doesn't do it. > > A Revolution field is not a browser and it is not even an HTML displayer. > It has a simple html-like markup view that covers the capabilities of of > the field. Though it is similar to HTML, htmlText doesn't even attempt > to be like HTML even in little things like representing whitespace. > > The title is way outside the scope of what htmlText does. > > Stripping and not is bizarre. > > It might be a clue that htmlText will become closer to HTML, but I > suspect it is an ancient artifact. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
