Re: Threads
Hi Was wondering how rev performed on these new dual/quad/multi core CPUs which are becoming standard in new systems. Am hoping for a smoother interface experience by starting to do more process-slashing of long running functions by breaking them down and using more send calls to recursively munch data. I know rev doesn't do threads and I don't think it needs to but I would like to think that it handles it's internal messages efficiently. I posted the above to the improve-list previously but the link below is new :) http://blog.labnotes.org/2006/08/29/why-processes-scale-better-than-threads/ Viktoras: When you use go stack, as far as I know, the loaded stack just joins the message queue of the current (calling) rev process (standalone or ide). Maybe we need.. go stack blah1.rev as modal run as thread /or go stack blah1.rev as modal run as process I too am keen to write powerful server solutions with rev without having many smaller server instances sharing the load. Good load balancing code to sync many servers isn't my idea of fun. regards alex Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Why shouldn't it work? Threads can be produced by cloning an invisible substack (named thread) with a handler and renaming the clones to thread_1, thread_2, etc... If this makes any sense to anyone the code is free to explore (Rev studio 2.7): go stack url http://www.ekoinf.net/inv/threading.rev; or compiled for windows http://www.ekoinf.net/inv/threads.exe The main stack contains a field which displays status of threads and indicates when a thread finishes its job. Any number of threads can be specified. I tried with 100 and it was OK (~100 kb memory footprint). The task was simple - parent generates and sends a random number within range 1..10. Process in a thread takes that number and sends it back to a handler in the parent in an equivalent number of seconds. The parent displays status of all threads and cleans up when all threads are finished. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Luis Date: 10/12/06 13:19:40 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Threads Maybe this could be done, albeit in a rather primitive way: Separate standalones communicating with each other? Cheers, Luis. Dar Scott wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Andrew wrote: What kind of communication? Do this and let me know when you are finished. Do this, show progress, and let me know when you are finished. Bidirectional message queue. Send messages to a thread in 'send' style. My initial idea would be that when you send a message you could do so indicating it should be run it it's own thread (or in an existing thread that you know the name of). By default each object (button, field, card etc) would have a mutex that you must hold to update it's attributes or to run any of its handlers (this would be acquired automatically). It would be possible to do finer grained locking if the programmer took the trouble to code it. The automatic acquisition of locks would be dependent on some global property (that might also be used to permit the creation of threads in the first place) so there would be no overhead for non-threaded stacks. I think something like that might work, however I wonder what the right way would be to make this fit into the Revolution way of things and to ward off potential problems. It might start off simple, perhaps between sort of between a thread and a process in which a library script is used to create a thread and messages (like with send) are sent back and forth. The shared resources might be added based on that. Same with accessing objects. That is far from being able to access anything the home thread could, so folks might think that too weak. Dar -- *** Dar Scott Dar Scott Consulting and Dar's Lab Lab, office, home: +1 505 299 9497 Fax: call above first Skype: send me a note first http://www.swcp.com/dsc Computer programming *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to
Re: Where to Save Downloads -- Best Practice?
So, what should one do? I guess the options are to use Application Support On the Mac and some such similar special directory on Windows. If I'm right, then what is it? What we need is the standard, for-sure-to-work location for saving the file to, such that it can be successfully written, immediately, by script control without prompting the user to pick a directory and name the file. i.e. the default guaranteed for-sure-exists and is read -- write directories for each platform. Hello Katirswami, I'm not sure if this already has been suggested to you, but did you try specialFolderPath(26)? This saves to C:/Documents and Settings/ MyUserId/Application Data/ which usually is open. Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to Save Downloads -- Best Practice?
Hi Sivakatirswami, You might be interested by Ken Ray's specialFolderPath codes at http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm All you need is there :-) Le 13 oct. 06 à 03:24, Sivakatirswami a écrit : So, what should one do? I guess the options are to use Application Support On the Mac and some such similar special directory on Windows. If I'm right, then what is it? What we need is the standard, for-sure-to-work location for saving the file to, such that it can be successfully written, immediately, by script control without prompting the user to pick a directory and name the file. i.e. the default guaranteed for-sure-exists and is read -- write directories for each platform. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
blendlevel magic
Hi, I just discovered a way to cool trick with blendlevels and (list)fields. You can have multicolored hilitedLines for a field. No problem. No special coding neccesary, you just set the hilitedLines of 2 flds a top of each other. That's all. Create 2 flds same size on top of each other. Set the opaque of the top one to false Put as many empty lines in the bottom one as you have lines of text in the top one. Now set the hiliteColor of the 2 flds to something different, let's say one is bright blue and the other is quite red. Next set the blendlevel of the top fld to somewhere between 30 and 70% also play with the inks. (a nice one is for instance bothl blendlevels 0 and ink for the bottom layer to bitwise scrCopy and the ink for the top one to arithmic blend) Anyway now set the hilitedLines of the base fld, the one with the empty lines, to lets say 1, 2 and of the top fld to 2,3. Now we have 3 differently colored lines. Sync the 2 flds up and you can have magic, Heck you can do it with 3 flds aswell. Alternating colored lines, it's easy. Except for syncing the scroll of the 2 fld's, no extra code necessary. Neat, ... ... very neat. Happy coding you guys and gals Claudi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Seeking Rev Consultant
Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Adrian, I am available for contract work. If you let me know what your budget / timeframe are and/or send a small sample of the font, I can give you an estimate. I have over ten years xTalk experience (since the Hypercard days!) and you can probably get an idea of my scripting abilities by searching the list archives. Thanks, --- Brian Yennie Director of Technology Integration QLD Learning (310)-367-7364 Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Threads
I should have put threading in quotes, indeed :o). Well, at least Revolution can emulate thread-like behaviour to accomplish tasks where identical processes, well, handlers have to share same job. Now I wonder if one wishes to share the job among several machines in a network (aka distributed computing on beowoolf cluster or global grid), how to calculate the optimal distribution of loads based on speed of a processors, RAM, and connection bandwidth available for each node. Are there any formulas for this ? Best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Apologies to the list - another meant to send it privately oops for the archives...! Adrian, I am available for contract work. If you let me know what your budget / timeframe are and/or send a small sample of the font, I can give you an estimate. I have over ten years xTalk experience (since the Hypercard days!) and you can probably get an idea of my scripting abilities by searching the list archives. Thanks, --- Brian Yennie Director of Technology Integration QLD Learning Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Dear Brian, Thanks for responding. I have to go to a meeting for the remainder of today but will get back to you with a sample of the font for you to test the theory as soon as I can. It may be tomorrow. I need to remake it (in part) for others to test. I a noob so is x-Talk same as/export of Rev? I need to plant your script(s) into a Rev. stack. Thanks again, Adrian ___ Adrian Williams Design Ltd (trading as Club Type), 44 Mill Lane, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey RH1 3HQ, UK Telephone/Facsimile: 01737 643300 dFax (computer reception): 0870 0515681 International tel/fax (UK)+44 1737 643300 International dFax: (UK)+44 870 0515681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.clubtype.co.uk On 13 Oct 2006, at 09:46, Brian Yennie wrote: Adrian, I am available for contract work. If you let me know what your budget / timeframe are and/or send a small sample of the font, I can give you an estimate. I have over ten years xTalk experience (since the Hypercard days!) and you can probably get an idea of my scripting abilities by searching the list archives. Thanks, --- Brian Yennie Director of Technology Integration QLD Learning (310)-367-7364 Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Oops. I did it too! sorry list. Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unwanted Explicit variables set to true?
On 12 Oct 2006, at 6:00 pm, Malte Brill wrote: Hi David, check your preferences. Maybe you accidently checked Variable checking by default in the script editor pane? Prefs are preserved cross versions since 2.7.x so this might be the cause. This setting is not exactly the same as setting the explicit vars. You might want to check uncheck it once even if it appears unchecked. Hope that helps, Malte Malte, That is exactly what it was! Odd thing is I have never before looked in Rev preferences. I was surprised to see how many options there are, and have certainly never looked at the script editor pane before. So the mystery of why remains, but the mystery of what is solved. For me, that is enough. Thank you so much, I would have spent hours messing with this. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cards of a bg not recognized !?
Hello, In a stack I have two groups behaving like backgrounds. For one of them, if I script go to last cd of bg frame2 nothing happens. In the message box if I ask : there is bg frame2 --I get true If I ask : there is last cd of bg frame2 --I get false If I ask : the number of cd of bg frame2 -- I get 0 ; In fact I have more than a hundred cd with this bg ? (for the first bg all is OK) I am lost ; please, could someone help me Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
textColor misbehaving?
I have a field which contains a sentence in black. When I attempt to change the color/colour of the text inside the box like this: set the textColor of fld FFF to red it stays black Hmm sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases. Mathewson, 2006 ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
Hi Richmond, Works for me! RR 2.7.4 on OSX 10.4.7 greetings, William de Smet 2006/10/13, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a field which contains a sentence in black. When I attempt to change the color/colour of the text inside the box like this: set the textColor of fld FFF to red it stays black Hmm sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases. Mathewson, 2006 ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ICT-coördinator Herman Broerenschool 2612 SP Delft 015-2141066 http://www.hermanbroerenschool-delft.nl ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
Have you set the color of the actual text by hand, at any point? What I mean is, select the text by dragging over it, set the color of it to black by from the Text menu. Now, setting the text of the field to red won't make the existing text red, it will stay black. I don't know if this is a foolproof way of checking, but if you 'put the htmlText of fld FFF', you can see if a color has been set that the textColor of the field won't override. Best, Mark On 13 Oct 2006, at 10:34, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I have a field which contains a sentence in black. When I attempt to change the color/colour of the text inside the box like this: set the textColor of fld FFF to red it stays black Hmm sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases. Mathewson, 2006 ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
Hi, I have downloaded MAMP (local server for Mac, with Apache, Mysql and PHP). It works fine on port 8889. But when I try to connect Rev to it using get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost:8889, MyDataBase, root, root), I always get the error message : Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:8889' . Am I using a bad syntax? Or is there some kind of incompatibility? Thanks for your help Pierre Delain ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
Did you try set the textColor of char 1 to -1 of fld FFF to red Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
Or: put fld FFF into fld FFF set textColor of fld FFF to red Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-okt-2006, om 13:13 heeft Signe Marie Sanne het volgende geschreven: Did you try set the textColor of char 1 to -1 of fld FFF to red Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
I noticed the same thing yesterday connecting to MySQL and specifying a port number using host:port It works fine by ommiting the port and using host name only (providing you use the default port 3306) JC Pierre Del. wrote: Hi, I have downloaded MAMP (local server for Mac, with Apache, Mysql and PHP). It works fine on port 8889. But when I try to connect Rev to it using get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost:8889, MyDataBase, root, root), I always get the error message : Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:8889' . Am I using a bad syntax? Or is there some kind of incompatibility? Thanks for your help Pierre Delain ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
The problem is that MAMP MySql server seems not to work at port 3306 (I don't know why) Le 13 oct. 06 à 14:07, John Craig a écrit : I noticed the same thing yesterday connecting to MySQL and specifying a port number using host:port It works fine by ommiting the port and using host name only (providing you use the default port 3306) JC Pierre Del. wrote: Hi, I have downloaded MAMP (local server for Mac, with Apache, Mysql and PHP). It works fine on port 8889. But when I try to connect Rev to it using get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost: 8889, MyDataBase, root, root), I always get the error message : Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:8889' . Am I using a bad syntax? Or is there some kind of incompatibility? Thanks for your help Pierre Delain ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Adrian, one invaluable tool will be altFont by Altuit. Its an external for mac and windows machines that allow you to load fonts without the need to install them. With altFont you can store your unicode font into a custom prop and load on runtime. their page is http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altFontCover/ default.htm it's specially useful for people working with custom fonts that don't know if their users will be savvy enough to know to install fonts or if they will have the administrator password for doing that. Cheers andre On Oct 13, 2006, at 5:08 AM, Adrian Williams wrote: Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:41 AM, Pierre Del. wrote: Hi, I have downloaded MAMP (local server for Mac, with Apache, Mysql and PHP). It works fine on port 8889. But when I try to connect Rev to it using get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost:8889, MyDataBase, root, root), I always get the error message : Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:8889' . Am I using a bad syntax? Or is there some kind of incompatibility? Documentation error. Pass the port number in as parameter 6. useSSL should be parameter 7. Try this: get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost, MyDataBase, root, root, 8889) -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cards of a bg not recognized !?
Bonjour André, You think as an HyperCard man ;-) Backgrounds act slightly differently with Revolution: Regarding to coding, a background is placed, as it was with HC, between the card and the stack in the message path. But, as you know it, you can place multiples backgrounds (groups) on the same card. So, regarding to objects relations, you can't say last cd of bg frame2 But only group frame2 of last cd (or any card where this group is placed) I assume you want to go to the last card where a group has been placed? Here is a fast workaround: unmarl all cds mark cds where there is a grp frame2 go last marked cd But actually, I think you should probably revise your architecture to be more Rev compliant ;-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 13 oct. 06 à 11:33, André.Bisseret a écrit : Hello, In a stack I have two groups behaving like backgrounds. For one of them, if I script go to last cd of bg frame2 nothing happens. In the message box if I ask : there is bg frame2 --I get true If I ask : there is last cd of bg frame2 --I get false If I ask : the number of cd of bg frame2 -- I get 0 ; In fact I have more than a hundred cd with this bg ? (for the first bg all is OK) I am lost ; please, could someone help me Best regards from Grenoble André -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
Documentation error. Pass the port number in as parameter 6. useSSL should be parameter 7. Try this: get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost, MyDataBase, root, root, 8889) sorry, it does not work, still looking at standard localhost, not taking the 8889 into account ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
I always do this when I want to set a text property globally for a field: set the textColor of line 1 to -1 of fld mine to empty set the textColor of fld mine to red Same principle, whether it's textcolor, textfont, size, etc. Devin On Oct 13, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Or: put fld FFF into fld FFF set textColor of fld FFF to red Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-okt-2006, om 13:13 heeft Signe Marie Sanne het volgende geschreven: Did you try set the textColor of char 1 to -1 of fld FFF to red Signe Marie Sanne Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting to mysql database using MAMP
That worked for me on 2.7.4 (Windows) - thanks. Trevor DeVore wrote: On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:41 AM, Pierre Del. wrote: Hi, I have downloaded MAMP (local server for Mac, with Apache, Mysql and PHP). It works fine on port 8889. But when I try to connect Rev to it using get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost:8889, MyDataBase, root, root), I always get the error message : Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:8889' . Am I using a bad syntax? Or is there some kind of incompatibility? Documentation error. Pass the port number in as parameter 6. useSSL should be parameter 7. Try this: get revOpenDataBase(MySQL, localhost, MyDataBase, root, root, 8889) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cards of a bg not recognized !?
Le 13 oct. 06 à 16:08, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Bonjour André, You think as an HyperCard man ;-) Backgrounds act slightly differently with Revolution: Regarding to coding, a background is placed, as it was with HC, between the card and the stack in the message path. But, as you know it, you can place multiples backgrounds (groups) on the same card. So, regarding to objects relations, you can't say last cd of bg frame2 But only group frame2 of last cd (or any card where this group is placed) I assume you want to go to the last card where a group has been placed? Here is a fast workaround: unmarl all cds mark cds where there is a grp frame2 go last marked cd But actually, I think you should probably revise your architecture to be more Rev compliant ;-) Bonjour Éric et merci for the workaround ; but In fact, I want to add new cards to two different sets of cards ; in the first set the cards share a group ( with behavior bg) say frame1 and in the second set the cards share another group (set to bg too) say frame2. What I don't understand is that it works nicely with frame1 and not with frame2 !? When I script : go to last cd of bg frame1 create cd etc. it works well, from any cd in the stack, BUT go to last cd of bg frame2 does not wor'k I can't imagine why ? I would appreciate a lot any explanation Best regards from Grenoble André P.S. Another possible workaround : When I am on a cd having frame2 on it, then go to last cd of this bg works, then I could go to such a cd (the first one). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 13 oct. 06 à 11:33, André.Bisseret a écrit : Hello, In a stack I have two groups behaving like backgrounds. For one of them, if I script go to last cd of bg frame2 nothing happens. In the message box if I ask : there is bg frame2 --I get true If I ask : there is last cd of bg frame2 --I get false If I ask : the number of cd of bg frame2 -- I get 0 ; In fact I have more than a hundred cd with this bg ? (for the first bg all is OK) I am lost ; please, could someone help me Best regards from Grenoble André -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
slightly OT - differencing and version control
Anybody out there working on a team of developers? If so, how do you handle file version control with your Rev stack files? I've been using MagicCarpet (which has worked very well for me; thanks Chipp). But up until now my company has only had myself and, at most, one other developer, and MagicCarpet has met our needs. But we're getting to a point where we need something a little more robust. Something that will preferably allow multiple concurrent checkouts of files, and then merge differences as they're checked back in. Is there something like this that even exists? I realize since Rev stacks contain binary data it makes things a bit more difficult. Is there anything out there that can handle binary files this way? If not, could something like this be created with Rev? If so, how difficult would it be? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: is this weird or is t me?
After following the discussion in the subject line on masking and disabling buttons,I tried a few scenarios to see what all the hassle was about. The result was a little stack for trying out the possibilities discussed (I think) and I have uploaded it to My Space. (Don't know how to link you to it from here - user name BarryB) Although I am sure it will be of no interest to those who took part in the discussion,I thought it might be to any other beginners in Revolution who maybe as thick as me. If any! ;-) Oh! if someone can tell me how to reset the scrollbar on a text field to the top when leaving the card, I should be very grateful and will update it. Barry Barber -- Ancora dubbi? Scegli Barclaycard, la carta di Credito leader in Europa: 0 Canone, 0 Commissioni, 100% Sicura! http://click.libero.it/barclaycard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is this weird or is t me?
Buongiorno Barry, After following the discussion in the subject line on masking and disabling buttons,I tried a few scenarios to see what all the hassle was about. The result was a little stack for trying out the possibilities discussed (I think) and I have uploaded it to My Space. (Don't know how to link you to it from here - user name BarryB) Although I am sure it will be of no interest to those who took part in the discussion,I thought it might be to any other beginners in Revolution who maybe as thick as me. If any! ;-) Oh! if someone can tell me how to reset the scrollbar on a text field to the top when leaving the card, I should be very grateful and will update it. on closecard set the scroll of fld your field here to 0 ... end closecard will do the trick :-) Barry Barber Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Threads
On Oct 12, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Threads can be produced by cloning an invisible substack (named thread) with a handler and renaming the clones to thread_1, thread_2, etc... This stack is a good mockup of what a simple threading capability would look like like. It also points out that much of what we would want in threading can be done with 'send'. I have an old, but applicable primer on message mechanics, that is, building message machines here: http://www.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html Should anybody be interested, that is. Using 'message mechanics' does require a different way of looking at a problem, perhaps making a state machine. And it is not a full substitute for threads. I have in my box of projects a new 'send' that has some issues fixed and is broader in what can be sent to what. I was thinking of expanding that so messages can be sent to threads. I was thinking of making threads out of command-line Revolution, much as the cgi folks do. I have tinkered with command-line Rev on OS X and I think this approach may have promise. Of course, resources would not be as intimately shared as in some threading models. But to be able to say, go off and do this FFT, would be nice. Of course, the mad scientist is flighty in these projects so don't count on anything. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack rename itself
Bill- Thursday, October 12, 2006, 10:47:23 PM, you wrote: I would like to be able to rename the stack file and other pertinent information so that there could be multiple versions of the stack personalized to different people. Not sure what you want here. Do you need something that clone won't give you? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevDB and 2.7.4 on on OS 10.2.8?
Is anybody successfully using RevDB with OS 10.2.8 and Rev 2.7.4? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Status of the Kagi KRM plug-in?
On Oct 10, 2006, at 8:11 AM, kee nethery wrote: The module makes extensive use of XML and the standard XML parsers but bog down with the data we send it. Kee, Out of curiosity, do you still get the same bog down if you use messaging as opposed to creating a tree in memory when you call revCreateXMLTree? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is this weird or is t me?
on closeCard set the scroll of fld x to 0 pass closeCard end closeCard -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-okt-2006, om 18:09 heeft barryb@@libero..it het volgende geschreven: snip Oh! if someone can tell me how to reset the scrollbar on a text field to the top when leaving the card, I should be very grateful and will update it. Barry Barber ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slightly OT - differencing and version control
Chris Sheffield wrote: Anybody out there working on a team of developers? If so, how do you handle file version control with your Rev stack files? I've been using MagicCarpet (which has worked very well for me; thanks Chipp). But up until now my company has only had myself and, at most, one other developer, and MagicCarpet has met our needs. But we're getting to a point where we need something a little more robust. Something that will preferably allow multiple concurrent checkouts of files, and then merge differences as they're checked back in. Is there something like this that even exists? I realize since Rev stacks contain binary data it makes things a bit more difficult. Is there anything out there that can handle binary files this way? If not, could something like this be created with Rev? If so, how difficult would it be? About half of the projects I've done over the last decade have been with teams, usually with about three developers but the two largest had about 20 team members each. One of those large projects was in done Gain Momentum (since renamed RadBuilder), which has a stack-based MagicCarpet-like check in/check out tool built in. For the other large project (which used Rev) we wrote a custom version control system focused at the card level which was specific to the unique workflow of that system. For smaller projects I've either custom-crafted a simple stack-based system like MagicCarpet, or just assigned owners to specific stacks and used email to trade them among the team. The latter has worked well enough to keep the MetaCard IDE project running for several years (though admittedly it's a small-scale project). For the work that I've done I've found stacks to be a very natural dividing line for sharing the workflow. Stacks tend to be either UI elements or libraries, and it usually benefits the project as a whole to keep the interconnections between such modules as simple and clean as possible anyway, so divvying up the project by stacks lends a clarity to the work. Because most other languages make software out of hundreds of tiny text files (as opposed to Rev's more self-contained binary files), there's an inclination among multi-lingual professionals to think about solutions for Rev projects in terms of what works elsewhere. But just as we enjoy the simplicity of the object model, we can re-think old production habits to discover ways to simplify the workflow as well, making Rev's unique object model work for us. Go with the grain. While it may be technically possible to atomize stacks into mergeable parts (I've made a few myself as experiments, using XML and even custom mini-macro-languages to describe objects), I don't prefer such a workflow in production. The overhead of coordinating among team members is high enough with the even simplest tools and methods. Steven McConnell's research finds that adding a second programmer adds only another ~50% additional productivity on average, with the rest of the time spent coordinating between programmers. A third programmer will add only another 30-40%, and the rate of diminishing returns increases with team size. If the team grows larger than the project warrants it could eventually result in negative productivity, with more effort spent coordinating that coding. So in short, team member coordination is expensive. Defining the logical dividing lines of a project and assigning ownership of discrete components to team members based on key competencies helps the workflow parallel the execution of the code: each component should have minimal connections to others, and putting the best mind on each component helps ensure that it gets done well and with minimal interconnection issues. If it appears that a particular UI window or library may best be served by having multiple programmers working on it simultaneously, that may be an indication of something very different, perhaps a need for cross-training or team member reassignment. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Adrian, Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? I am available for both script writing and for review consulting. I have some experience with Unicode and with intercepting keystrokes. I am aware of the major problems in using Unicode keys in arrays and in intercepting keystrokes (assuming those apply). From Brian Yennie's comments on the lists over the years, I suspect he would be good, too. Dar -- ** Dar Scott Dar Scott Consulting and Dar's Lab 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, office, home: +1 505 299 9497 Fax:call above first Skype: dar_scott http://www.swcp.com/dsc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer programming ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cards of a bg not recognized !?
On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:33 AM, André.Bisseret wrote: In the message box if I ask : there is bg frame2 --I get true If I ask : there is last cd of bg frame2 --I get false If I ask : the number of cd of bg frame2 -- I get 0 ; In fact I have more than a hundred cd with this bg ? This is a wild guess. Maybe those more-than-a-hundred-cards have a background with a slightly different name. The other name frame2 might apply to a background that still exists in the stack if the last one on a card was removed instead of deleted. (Backgrounds belong to the stack.) Move to a card with no groups and look at the names on the Place menu item and see if a different one shows up. Or check the name of your group with the property inspector. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:34 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I have a field which contains a sentence in black. When I attempt to change the color/colour of the text inside the box like this: set the textColor of fld FFF to red it stays black Individual characters also have the property textColor which override the textColor of the field. Try this: set the textColor of char 1 to -1 of field FFF to red Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bundling externals in MacOS X standalones.
Folks, where should I put a external so it will be bundled in 2.7.4 MacOS X standalone app. I tried opening the package and putting it in the Externals folder next to the application inner executable with no success, I also tried putting it directly next to the inner executable with no success either. How should I bundle it? The externals prop of the stack has no path info. Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bundling externals in MacOS X standalones.
Hi Andre, First set the externals property of the mainstack to externals/ externalname.bundle or externals/externalname.dll. Then put the externals into the externals folder, which is next to the standalone. You can include externals in the list of files to copy, in the standalone builder. Create a folder next to your main stack, call it Externals and put your externals into this folder. In the standalone builder, you can now add the files. When they are copied, the path relative to the stack will be the same (i.e. in th externals folder). Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-okt-2006, om 20:07 heeft Andre Garzia het volgende geschreven: Folks, where should I put a external so it will be bundled in 2.7.4 MacOS X standalone app. I tried opening the package and putting it in the Externals folder next to the application inner executable with no success, I also tried putting it directly next to the inner executable with no success either. How should I bundle it? The externals prop of the stack has no path info. Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slightly OT - differencing and version control
Chris- Friday, October 13, 2006, 9:03:54 AM, you wrote: Is there something like this that even exists? I realize since Rev stacks contain binary data it makes things a bit more difficult. Is there anything out there that can handle binary files this way? If not, could something like this be created with Rev? If so, how difficult would it be? Here's the approach I took: any rev object can be described by its 1. script 2. properties 3. custom properties 4. custom property sets (and 3 recursively) I made a client-end plugin that enumerates these and sends them as text over a socket connection to a server that stores them away as (item,value) pairs. Checking an object out then is a matter of grabbing the description and, item by item, issuing set commands. Checkin: foreColor,black backColor,white Checkout: in a repeat loop: put item 1 of line x of tDescription into tProp put item 2 of line x of tDescription into tValue set the tProp of control tObject to tValue Diffing two versions of an object: I save only the complete contents of the current version an object. Previous versions have only the items that are different from the next-most-recent saved. To see the difference between the two latest versions you just have to display those items. To diff a less recent version you work your way back down the chain. There *are* some problems with this, notably with respect to object ids if you need to recreate the entire stack from its descriptions or when one developer checks in a new control and a second developer needs to import it into an existing stack. Object ids (with the exception of images) are immutable in rev for some reason. Hope this helps. Next step (someday) is to integrate this with subversion. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Hi Brian, If you supply your personal email - I will contact you with the details off-list. Thanks, Adrian On 13 Oct 2006, at 09:46, Brian Yennie wrote: Adrian, I am available for contract work. If you let me know what your budget / timeframe are and/or send a small sample of the font, I can give you an estimate. I have over ten years xTalk experience (since the Hypercard days!) and you can probably get an idea of my scripting abilities by searching the list archives. Thanks, --- Brian Yennie Director of Technology Integration QLD Learning (310)-367-7364 Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? The custom font may have up to 14000 characters. 255 Standard chars. The remainder are Latin characters with attached joining strokes, stored in the Japanese or the some Other Language part of the font. Font/scripts will be used to 'join' English words. A graphic example of the main function is shown here... http://www.clubtype.co.uk/revDev-abc/abc-rev.jpg From the Users perspective... Text is entered into A4/US Letter sized field. As each character is entered, it 'joins' to the previous char. After any text has been entered, User may go back and place insertion point anywhere in the text and correct a spelling and the word will re-join correctly. Script efficiency is important to reduce screen flicker while processing each char. A small flicker is acceptable, but not a long delay. I will develop the interface and font(s) in Rev Studio. I need a Rev. scriptor to create the 'joining' portion. Just for a few joining characters to prove/test above requirements. I will spend the long hours/days/months creating the font characters then entering their Unicode/HTML/Decimal??? values in the script. If interested, please contact me and I will furnish more information. Many thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ Adrian Williams Design Ltd (trading as Club Type), 44 Mill Lane, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey RH1 3HQ, UK Telephone/Facsimile: 01737 643300 dFax (computer reception): 0870 0515681 International tel/fax (UK)+44 1737 643300 International dFax: (UK)+44 870 0515681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.clubtype.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Hi Dar, Thanks for the offer. I *may* be in touch. Adrian On 13 Oct 2006, at 18:49, Dar Scott wrote: Adrian, Is anyone interested in scripting for using a Unicode font? I am available for both script writing and for review consulting. I have some experience with Unicode and with intercepting keystrokes. I am aware of the major problems in using Unicode keys in arrays and in intercepting keystrokes (assuming those apply). From Brian Yennie's comments on the lists over the years, I suspect he would be good, too. Dar -- ** Dar Scott Dar Scott Consulting and Dar's Lab 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, office, home: +1 505 299 9497 Fax:call above first Skype: dar_scott http://www.swcp.com/dsc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer programming ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ Adrian Williams Design Ltd (trading as Club Type), 44 Mill Lane, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey RH1 3HQ, UK Telephone/Facsimile: 01737 643300 dFax (computer reception): 0870 0515681 International tel/fax (UK)+44 1737 643300 International dFax: (UK)+44 870 0515681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.clubtype.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
question about launch documentpath
Hi list, when executing launch documentpath with applicationpath is it possible to know the coordinates (size position) of the window opened by the app (for a snapshot of that specific screen portion for instance) ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
textColor misbehaving?
Thank you all so much for your helpful suggestions. In the end I plumped for Devin Asay's method. Now, being the type of person I am (cough, cough): I would like to know WHY the method which is described in the Documentation didn't work . . . sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases. Mathewson, 2006 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bundling externals in MacOS X standalones.
Hi Mark, this didn't work for me out of the box. To make this work, I had to trap the Startup message and set the defaultfolder to the path of the inner stack or it would not find the externals folder next to the main stack. Cheers andre On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Andre, First set the externals property of the mainstack to externals/ externalname.bundle or externals/externalname.dll. Then put the externals into the externals folder, which is next to the standalone. You can include externals in the list of files to copy, in the standalone builder. Create a folder next to your main stack, call it Externals and put your externals into this folder. In the standalone builder, you can now add the files. When they are copied, the path relative to the stack will be the same (i.e. in th externals folder). Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-okt-2006, om 20:07 heeft Andre Garzia het volgende geschreven: Folks, where should I put a external so it will be bundled in 2.7.4 MacOS X standalone app. I tried opening the package and putting it in the Externals folder next to the application inner executable with no success, I also tried putting it directly next to the inner executable with no success either. How should I bundle it? The externals prop of the stack has no path info. Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Forums are Back
Hi all, The forums are back, however unfortunately we werent able to restore them completely to the point where they were right before they went down. If you get a message that you do not have an account, it could be because...there isnt one. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seeking Rev Consultant
Rats! I did it too! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: textColor misbehaving?
On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Thank you all so much for your helpful suggestions. In the end I plumped for Devin Asay's method. Now, being the type of person I am (cough, cough): I would like to know WHY the method which is described in the Documentation didn't work . . . I don't know what part of the documentation you're referring to, but maybe the docs make the (sometimes faulty) assumption that no other styles, colors, etc. have been applied to the text within the field. Maybe a candidate for a documentation correction? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slightly OT - differencing and version control
Chris, We have a version of altSubversion (the altuit external for the opensource subversion document/code management software) lying around somewhere. It's super easy to script and takes a lot of the work out of having to manage files (like MGC has to do). Try contacting chris at Altuit and I believe he can help you out. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Comparison of Multimedia
Found this for format conversion, might be worth a look: http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/ Cheers, Luis. On 12 Oct 2006, at 1:26, Luis wrote: Hiya, Ok, I'll get the feelers out on QT: I'll get back to you as soon as I get word back. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Oct 2006, at 5:02, GregSmith wrote: Luis: Anything you can dig up regarding the future of QuickTime on iPods is of definite interest to me. And, as far as QuickTime development software goes, VideoClix seems to be holding its own while other companies are floundering, (TotallyHip seems to be more of a consullting firm, now, than a software producer). iShell also has had to regroup and is now under the flagship of another company. All this news beats me. Thanks again, Greg Smith Luis-24 wrote: If you're looking to the iPod market: Ever the cheapo me... Look at this: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ tutorials/creatingvideo.html QT pro is $30. There are rumours about (and with the new releases having games and all!) that the firmware may be updated to support QT VR, adding interactivity to QT files on the iPods... (VideoClix probably has it's own QT codec for this). Lemme know and I'll try to dig up more info if you like. Need to sleep now. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Oct 2006, at 0:21, Luis wrote: Hiya, From their site: VideoClix 2.9 Lite Updates For: Short video Blogs Quicktime $ 49 US VideoClix 2.9 Edu For: Educational use Podcasts Quicktime, AVI, Mpeg1 4, DV $ 249 US VideoClix 2.9 Pro For: Commercial use Quicktime, AVI, Mpeg1 4, Flash, DV $ 699 US VideoClix OEM License $ 9995 US Are you nuts! Or loaded? (Are you married?... ;) The interface looks very simple, but it doesn't look like it couldn't be done with Revolution and the EnhancedQT External (have a look at: http://www.runrev.com/spotlight_on/alida1.php to see what I mean. No EQT, but then again, he didn't need it). Revolution and EQT could be used to create your own 'creator'. The export formats would probably be doable with Media Cleaner (now Autodesk Cleaner, I think it's $500) or some other app. I haven't tried it, and at those prices... Although the Commercial licence isn't too bad considering others around. Norpath and QuickMedia are roughly half the price. It really depends what your target markets are. I'd opt for the cheap end, and if I find I'm rolling in it I'd invest in a broader market by purchasing, possibly, such an app. But man, $9995 just for rebranding?! I'm sure with Revolution, EQT and some other apps you could do it for a fraction of the cost. Even though I do like Norpath, a lot, it still falls short for some other things I want to do (MIDI panning for example. It has it, but not 'controllable'). I'd easily be able to do the same as VideoClix, and then work on the export formats with some other app (probably find a freebie somewhere in Sourceforge). Kagi integration would be cool, but then there are other ways to integrate payment systems. Like I said, I'd start small and work up from there. Download the trial and see. But really test the trial and see what support you get for any issues you crop up with. After that, well, it's your money! But at first glance, looking at the capabilities of the other apps, it doesn't tempt me at the moment, it's too specific, and the projects I have lined up need greater flexibility and facilities. I'm sure more experienced Transcript coders than me on this list would be able to drum up something similar (dang! There goes another idea...). Let me know what you think! Cheers, Luis. On 10 Oct 2006, at 22:53, GregSmith wrote: Luis: Now that we're discussing various multimedia software, what about VideoClix? If it had Kagi KRM, I'd buy it today. The thing about VideoClix is, again, no forum, not much apparent support, no demo at all and a high price tag. Now, how do they expect to get customers that way? Although, every review is favorable and Apple, itself, (herself, himself), uses this QuickTime dedicated software. Now, just casually considering all of the stuff it allows you to do inside the QuickTime container, and how universal QuickTime is becoming, (imagine dispensing training solutions via iPods), I can even imagine being able to put together a rather primitive adventure game, just by using this app. What do you know or think about it? Greg Smith ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A- Comparison-of-Multimedia-tf2417422.html#a6749941 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription
running handlers
Is there a way to find out the names of all handlers currently running, that is, those that have started but not yet finished? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: running handlers
On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:09 PM, Jon Seymour wrote: Is there a way to find out the names of all handlers currently running, that is, those that have started but not yet finished? There is only one thread in Revolution so all handlers that are currently running are those on the call stack. The top one is triggered by an event or send (and for send I guess the clock change is an event). The rest are called by that directly or indirectly or triggered by an event or send in 'wait ... with messages'. You can see those with the unsupported property executionContexts. You should be able to figure out how to parse it with a little experimenting. Item -1 is the line number within the handler, -2 is the name of the handler and item 1 to -3 is the long id of the object the handler is in. It does miss some handlers. For example, it misses any handlers executing 'wait ... with messages'. (That might be there to solve some other problem.) In some cases you can find the skipped handler but that might take some work. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: running handlers
On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Item -1 is the line number within the handler, -2 is the name of the handler and item 1 to -3 is the long id of the object the handler is in. Whoops. I mean for each line with the first line being the top and the bottom line being the one that accessed the executionContexts property. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Danish Windows tester needed
Hi All, As I have already announced, I have a program called Pic-a-POD http://www.troz.net/Pic-a-POD/ that downloads various pictures of the day and uses them to set change your desktop. I was contacted by a Dane who asked me to translate it into Danish. With him supplying the translations, I have done this and he has tested it on his Danish Mac OS X system. I have a Danish version for Windows also and it seems to work fine on my Windows system, but I would really like to have it tested on a Danish system before releasing it. If there is anyone out there running Windows in Danish who would be prepeared to test it for me, please contact me off-list. Many thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
