Re: switch case question

2006-11-05 Thread Kay C Lan

On 11/5/06, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The 'switch x' seems to convert x to a string and the 'case y' seems
to convert y to a string, and then comparisons are made.


Excellent Detective work Dar. It also reinforces a habit I'm trying to
develop when writing switch statements, and that is to always use the
default as a catch for cases I haven't considered:

switch L
 case (5)
handler1
 break
 case (5.0)
handler2
  break
 case (5)
handler3
 break
 case (5.0)
handler4
 break
 default
   answer Switch statement error  return 
  Handler: myHandler  return 
  Paramater L:   L
  exitGracefully
end switch

Obviously, from what you're saying, handler3/4 would never run, but
more importantly, if 5. (decimal point byt no zero) got into L, I
should get immediate feedback that I haven't correctly taken it into
account in my switch structure.

I've wasted a lot of time stepping through scripts that don't do what
they're suppose to do and often it is because I've added a feature to
and old stack and don't realise that this new feature now puts new
values into properties that get checked by some buried switch
structure which completely ignores it because it was never part of the
original cases considered. Using default as a catch nails it
instantly.

Hope that helps someone:-)
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Re: [ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook at Half Price

2006-11-05 Thread Adrian Williams

Another sale made to this newbie!
Adrian
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On 3 Nov 2006, at 20:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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The Scripter's  Scrapbook - Half  Price
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(This is a  Revolution Users Only special price, valid until 13 
November

2006)


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Re: links again

2006-11-05 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Hi Tim, 
you can simply set theHtmltext of field to an html with links and use switch
linkClicked to do anything you need. This sample might help to clear up some
issues: 
execute this in a message box: go url http://ekoinf.net/tests/Links.rev 
 
All the best! 
Viktoras 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Timothy Miller 
Date: 11/05/06 06:03:08 
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com 
Subject: links again 
 
As you might guess, I'm struggling with this topic -- links. I submitted 
a bz report that probably wasn't a bug. I asked a question on the list, 
thought I understood the helpful replies, but it turns out I don't 
understand very well after all. I've discovered several of my own 
misconceptions along the way. I've been reading the instructions as best 
I can. 
 
Sorry to be a pest, but I've gotta ask somebody, and who else ya gonna call?

 
This time I'll try to ask small questions, one at a time. I have 
several, but they're related. If I understand a few things, I can 
probably figure out the rest. 
 
Here's a basic one. 
 
--Let's say I have several identical words in the same field (maybe it's 
a rather long treatise), each defined as a link, by textStyle, and I 
want each one to do something distinct when clicked. 
 
In other words, is there a way to assign something like 
 
!-- a href=http://www.runrev.com;thisIsMyLink/a -- 
 
to a specific link in RR? (I commented this example, so you might be 
able to read it in your HTML-enabled email client.) 
 
What I mean is that the link would point to something that doesn't 
actually display in the field, which remains connected to the link, even 
if the link gets moved around. It probably wouldn't be a URL. More 
likely, the not-visible part of the link would be a handler, or a few 
lines of script. 
 
In other, other words, is it possible to get a text link to work kind of 
like a button? 
 
I understand how to do something simple like 
 
on linkClicked theText 
if theText is not empty then revGoURL theText 
end linkClicked 
 
But that wouldn't work for the purpose I'm describing because the text 
and format of the links would be identical, so theText would also be 
identical. 
 
I'm wondering if there's some way to do this sort of thing without 
referencing the clicked word or chunk function. That would be 
cumbersome, because every time I edited the field, all the chunk 
references would change. 
 
Can someone give me a general idea of how to do it, or where to look it 
up? Or a sketch of a sample script might be helpful. 
 
As I read over my question, I begin to suspect this sort of thing has to 
be exported to some HTML-capable application, like a web browser. But, 
maybe not... 
 
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm taking my meds now, so I 
won't be querulous :-) 
 
Tim 
 
 
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Re: links again

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Schonewille

Tim,

You can use standard html links such as a href=http:// 
www.runrev.comclick here/a and get the actual link in the  
parameter sent with the linkClicked message.


I have uploaded an example to RevOnline. User space Mark, name of the  
stack is 4Tim. I will remove the stack tomorrow.


Best,

Mark

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Op 5-nov-2006, om 5:02 heeft Timothy Miller het volgende geschreven:

As you might guess, I'm struggling with this topic -- links. I  
submitted a bz report that probably wasn't a bug. I asked a  
question on the list, thought I understood the helpful replies, but  
it turns out I don't understand very well after all. I've  
discovered several of my own misconceptions along the way. I've  
been reading the instructions as best I can.


Sorry to be a pest, but I've gotta ask somebody, and who else ya  
gonna call?


This time I'll try to ask small questions, one at a time. I have  
several, but they're related. If I understand a few things, I can  
probably figure out the rest.


Here's a basic one.

--Let's say I have several identical words in the same field (maybe  
it's a rather long treatise), each defined as a link, by textStyle,  
and I want each one to do something distinct when clicked.


In other words, is there a way to assign something like

!-- a href=http://www.runrev.com;thisIsMyLink/ 
a--


to a specific link in RR? (I commented this example, so you might  
be able to read it in your HTML-enabled email client.)


What I mean is that the link would point to something that doesn't  
actually display in the field, which remains connected to the link,  
even if the link gets moved around. It probably wouldn't be a URL.  
More likely, the not-visible part of the link would be a handler,  
or a few lines of script.


In other, other words, is it possible to get a text link to work  
kind of like a button?


I understand how to do something simple like

on linkClicked theText
 if theText is not empty then revGoURL theText
end linkClicked

But that wouldn't work for the purpose I'm describing because the  
text and format of the links would be identical, so theText would  
also be identical.


I'm wondering if there's some way to do this sort of thing without  
referencing the clicked word or chunk function. That would be  
cumbersome, because every time I edited the field, all the chunk  
references would change.


Can someone give me a general idea of how to do it, or where to  
look it up? Or a sketch of a sample script might be helpful.


As I read over my question, I begin to suspect this sort of thing  
has to be exported to some HTML-capable application, like a web  
browser. But, maybe not...


Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm taking my meds now,  
so I won't be querulous  :-)


Tim



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Keydown into Table Fields

2006-11-05 Thread Josep M Yepes

Hello,

I need to control thekey pressed into the cell in a Table field.

I have this code:

on keydown thekey
  if thekey is F4 then go to card s_itemSelect
  else pass keydown
  --asnwer thekey
end keydown

The objective is when the user press F4 one card with a list of items  
is showed to select one of them.


Is posible to difference between columns into the Table Field, to  
select different actions with the same F4 key.
I think that controlling the x,y of the cell can be one way, but I  
don't know if exist someway more effective.


But, nothing happen.
Sure that I doing something wrong but I don't see what it's.

Thanks,
Josep
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popup?

2006-11-05 Thread Robert Mann
Is there a way to have a button open a popup box so the user can enter text?
Here is what I would like to do, have a button labeled add comment, when the
user clicks the button a popup opens so they can enter the comment then they
click submit and it gets added to the database

Thanks

Robert Mann

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Re: Keydown into Table Fields

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Josep,

You need to handle the functionKey message instead of the keydown  
message.


Best,

Mark

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Op 5-nov-2006, om 15:34 heeft Josep M Yepes het volgende geschreven:


Hello,

I need to control thekey pressed into the cell in a Table field.

I have this code:

on keydown thekey
  if thekey is F4 then go to card s_itemSelect
  else pass keydown
  --asnwer thekey
end keydown

The objective is when the user press F4 one card with a list of  
items is showed to select one of them.


Is posible to difference between columns into the Table Field, to  
select different actions with the same F4 key.
I think that controlling the x,y of the cell can be one way, but I  
don't know if exist someway more effective.


But, nothing happen.
Sure that I doing something wrong but I don't see what it's.

Thanks,
Josep



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RE: popup?

2006-11-05 Thread Robert Mann
I found this
ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
it give a OK and Cancel buttons

if you type into the popup text field box it does not place the text into
the prompt field,
how do I now pass this info so that I can run a SQLupdate with this new info
after the OK button is pressed?

Thanks

Robert Mann


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Mann
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Use-Revolution
Subject: popup?


Is there a way to have a button open a popup box so the user can enter text?
Here is what I would like to do, have a button labeled add comment, when the
user clicks the button a popup opens so they can enter the comment then they
click submit and it gets added to the database

Thanks

Robert Mann

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RE: popup?

2006-11-05 Thread Robert Mann
ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
put it into tcomment

this seems to work?


Robert Mann
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Re: popup?

2006-11-05 Thread Martin Baxter

Robert Mann wrote:

ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
put it into tcomment

this seems to work?


Robert Mann


Yes, though I might do this:

if it is not empty then
  put it into tcomment
end if
# it will be empty if the user cancelled

# Although, in actual practice, when retrieving a value
# from it I always put the value into a temporary var
# immediately for safe keeping
put it into t_temp
# which I consider good practice because it can be
# changed by many other actions, and this way you get its
# value before anything else has a chance to change it

# so, my version would look like this

ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
put it into t_temp
if t_temp is not empty then
  put t_temp into tcomment
end if

HTH Martin Baxter
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RE: popup?

2006-11-05 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks, I will do this from now on.

Robert Mann


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin
Baxter
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:15 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: popup?


Robert Mann wrote:
 ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
 put it into tcomment

 this seems to work?


 Robert Mann

Yes, though I might do this:

if it is not empty then
   put it into tcomment
end if
# it will be empty if the user cancelled

# Although, in actual practice, when retrieving a value
# from it I always put the value into a temporary var
# immediately for safe keeping
put it into t_temp
# which I consider good practice because it can be
# changed by many other actions, and this way you get its
# value before anything else has a chance to change it

# so, my version would look like this

ask field Prompt titled Enter your Comment!
put it into t_temp
if t_temp is not empty then
   put t_temp into tcomment
end if

HTH Martin Baxter
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Re: links again

2006-11-05 Thread Judy Perry
Tim,

You can also check out a simple stack I have explaining how to do this up
on RevOnline in the Education category:  Hyperlinks in Transcript.

HTH,

Judy

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

 Hi TIm,

 Yes there is a way to do what you want, but it is a bit clumsy to
 implement. You need the property called linkText. However you cannot
 set it using the property inspector, so you have to set it manually,
 either using a button or the message box.

 I usually do it by entering the following in the message box,
 selecting the relevant text, then pressing Enter to make the message
 box script happen.

 set the textStyle of he selectedText to link
 set the linkText of the selectedText to http://www.runrev.com;

 When I lock the field's text and click on the text that I selected
 before running this script, the linkClicked message will have the
 parameter http://www.runrev.com;, regardless of the actual text of
 the link.

 HTH,
 Sarah



 On 11/5/06, Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As you might guess, I'm struggling with this topic -- links. I submitted
  a bz report that probably wasn't a bug. I asked a question on the list,
  thought I understood the helpful replies, but it turns out I don't
  understand very well after all. I've discovered several of my own
  misconceptions along the way. I've been reading the instructions as best
  I can.
 
  Sorry to be a pest, but I've gotta ask somebody, and who else ya gonna call?
 
  This time I'll try to ask small questions, one at a time. I have
  several, but they're related. If I understand a few things, I can
  probably figure out the rest.
 
  Here's a basic one.
 
  --Let's say I have several identical words in the same field (maybe it's
  a rather long treatise), each defined as a link, by textStyle, and I
  want each one to do something distinct when clicked.
 
  In other words, is there a way to assign something like
 
  !-- a href=http://www.runrev.com;thisIsMyLink/a--
 
  to a specific link in RR? (I commented this example, so you might be
  able to read it in your HTML-enabled email client.)
 
  What I mean is that the link would point to something that doesn't
  actually display in the field, which remains connected to the link, even
  if the link gets moved around. It probably wouldn't be a URL. More
  likely, the not-visible part of the link would be a handler, or a few
  lines of script.
 
  In other, other words, is it possible to get a text link to work kind of
  like a button?
 
  I understand how to do something simple like
 
  on linkClicked theText
if theText is not empty then revGoURL theText
  end linkClicked
 
  But that wouldn't work for the purpose I'm describing because the text
  and format of the links would be identical, so theText would also be
  identical.
 
  I'm wondering if there's some way to do this sort of thing without
  referencing the clicked word or chunk function. That would be
  cumbersome, because every time I edited the field, all the chunk
  references would change.
 
  Can someone give me a general idea of how to do it, or where to look it
  up? Or a sketch of a sample script might be helpful.
 
  As I read over my question, I begin to suspect this sort of thing has to
  be exported to some HTML-capable application, like a web browser. But,
  maybe not...
 
  Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm taking my meds now, so I
  won't be querulous  :-)
 
  Tim
 
 
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[ANN] ssBk Chat update

2006-11-05 Thread FlexibleLearning
ssBkChat v1.1

This Chat comes as a plugin  with the Scripter's Scrapbook but it will also 
work happily Revolution. It is a  totally free service, hosted by his chat-ship 
Bjornke von Gierke, and new blood  is always welcome!

What:
- Sporting a new interface that matches the  new Scrapbook.

Where:
- RevOnline: Users/ FLCo/ ssBkChat  PlugIn
or
-  www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk/modules/ssbkChat.zip

How:
- Download the  file and replace your existing ssbkChat.rev (in your 
ssBkPlugins folder). Or  just open it in Revolution.

Enjoy.

/H
www.ssbk.co.uk
Home of  the Scripter's Scrapbook  

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Scripter's Scrapbook and PayPal problems

2006-11-05 Thread Wilhelm Sanke

Dear Hugh,

as others may be also affected by the way PayPal handels transactions I 
send this post to the use-list, too.


I remember having had similar problems with PayPal some time ago.

Following the half-price link in your offer to this list I read on your 
web page that a number of credit cards are accepted, from Visa to Solo - 
9 in all including American Express.
On the order page of Paypal for the Scrapbook, which at first appears in 
English, I see that these credit cards can be used, but as soon as I 
choose Germany as the country option the text changes to German 
(including some spelling mistakes) and asks for my bank account for 
manual transfer of the price. Happily, there is still an option button 
credit cards, which however offers only the choice between Visa and 
Mastercard.


I looked at other countries and see that from Great Britain or Austria 
you can indeed use American Express with PayPal, but not from France and 
Germany. What is the reason behind such a differentiation between 
countries? Is it maybe a corollary of the opposition of France and 
Germany against the Iraq war? Very strange. Or maybe it has to do with 
George W. Bush's dislike of weapons of math instruction (see the 
article recently posted to this list)?


O.K., I followed the option of Mastercard for my order, tried about six 
times and was never accepted because PayPal was not to be convinced that 
my account number is correct. The validity of my Mastercard is from 2005 
to Dec 2008. I have made a number of online purchases with this card in 
the last months and nobody had so far complained about a wrong number.


Then I again switched to the English page, choose U.S.A. as my country 
and entered my Florida address and phone number and my American Express 
details. This has worked before when buying from firms like CompUSA, 
Radio Shack, or Circuit City.
PayPal accepted my AMEX entries, but did not like my U.S.A. address - 
maybe because this address is not sufficiently connected with my German 
bank account from which AMEX payments are withdrawn.


I consider asking American Express to honor my American address as also 
connected to my German bank account; this would also enable me to profit 
from the considerably lower prices RunRev charges from its customers in 
the U.S.A.-


Next, I found a button my PayPal account, and indeed I appear to have 
used such an account before as they listed my correct address.
However, at this point even the options for Visa and Mastercard were 
gone! Only manual transfer from my bank account was left as a 
possibility. For safety reasons in such an unstable and dangerous 
country as Germany?-


Without entering anything I chose a proceed (or something similar) 
button, and shortly afterwards got a transfer receipt  - without any 
indication in which way the money was going to be transferred.


Your Scripter's Scrapbook registration key arrived about an hour later. 
One problem occured when entering my data into the Scrapbook: The 
registration form does not accept the @ directly from the keyboard (on 
Windows XP), I had to use ALT+64 to place the @ into my email adress.


At last PayPal indeed informed me in a new post  I had to go to my bank 
and transfer the price manually. So although I have already got my 
Scrapbook key you will have to wait for a few days until my money should 
arrive.


PayPal says somewhere on their pages to address customer support (or the 
like) in case of problems, but nowhere could I find a link to do that.


I recommend that you - as a customer of PayPal - should inform PayPal 
about these problems. I will do so myself once I have found a PayPal 
address to voice my opinions about inedaquate programming, a widespread 
nuisance of which we - as programmers and Revolution users - are 
sufficiently aware and annoyed.


I frequently use my credit cards for online buying of books, software 
etc. and almost never have run into problems. The only other firm I had 
trouble with was Apple when I bought a Quicktime Pro license two years 
ago: They accepted my AMEX payment immediately and got their money, but 
failed to deliver the registration key. It then took five weeks, 10 
emails, and two international phone calls until they finally succeeded 
to send the key I had paid for more than a month earlier.


Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia





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Problems with my eyes: RR Documentation

2006-11-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Wow, I must be feeling the effect of encroaching age -
on my 1280 x 1024 screen (17) I am having a really
tough time reading some of the documentation.

I opened up my revDocs stack and set the fontsize to a
bigger size - which was a great improvement for most
of the documentation.

However, doing this was a bit of a fiddle - and I have
a funny feeling that others may also find the fontsize
too small.

Now, the clever thing would be a way to set the
fontsizes of the Documentation via the Preferences,
just as one can set the font and its size for the
Script Editor (I personally favour size 18).

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



I have just read and signed the online petition:

   Hinge  Bracket

hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:

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I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too.  If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and 
consider signing yourself.

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Re: links again

2006-11-05 Thread Wilhelm Sanke

Hi Timothy,

Another addition to the various recommendations and sample stacks you 
have received:


Check out my HypertextAnnotations stack (already two years old, but 
still usable) on page Tools and Samples for Development of my website


http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia

From the text:

Two versions of annotations using linkclicked or clicktext. 
Clicking on words set to bold or link will display an annotation 
field near the word containing additional information (translation, 
definition etc.). The annotated words are defined in a glossary field.


Two different approaches are explained and implemented: One using 
linktext, bold, and clicktext, the other relying on linktext and 
linkclicked.


Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia

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Re: Scripter's Scrapbook and PayPal problems

2006-11-05 Thread FlexibleLearning
Hi Wilhelm,

Your order was confirmed by  PayPal, although there was an initial 'pending' 
notification that  lasted only a few minutes. So it seems that all went as 
expected.

As  regard the @ symbol, this has been noticed by another German user and I 
am at  a loss as to know the reason. All other keyboards behave as expected. 
There is  nothing in the field code to interfer (in fact there is no field 
code), and no  reason can be identified. Using copy and paste seems to be the 
simple way around  this for German users.

With best regards

/H
www.ssbk.co.uk  

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 38, Issue 10

2006-11-05 Thread Josep M Yepes

Hi Mark,

Nothing happen, no message is processed. No keys, no special keys, no  
functionskeys. When press it on my iBook, the sound+ is activated,... :(


Any idea?

Cheers,
Josep

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Hi Josep,

You need to handle the functionKey message instead of the keydown
message.

Best,

Mark


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Re: Keydown into Table Fields

2006-11-05 Thread Josep M Yepes

Hi Mark,

The message work fine into card script, but into the Table Fields  
doesn't run.
It seems like into (when you are editing one cell) the Table Fields  
nothing can be intercepted.


Cheers,
Josep

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Hi Josep,

You need to handle the functionKey message instead of the keydown
message.

Best,

Mark



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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 38, Issue 10

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Schonewille

Josep,

You may have found out already that you can change the way function  
keys work on the iBook. They either change brightness sound etc. or  
work as real function keys. You can press the fn-button to change  
this behavious on-the-fly.


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Op 5-nov-2006, om 21:06 heeft Josep M Yepes het volgende geschreven:


Hi Mark,

Nothing happen, no message is processed. No keys, no special keys,  
no functionskeys. When press it on my iBook, the sound+ is  
activated,... :(


Any idea?

Cheers,
Josep


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Re: Keydown into Table Fields

2006-11-05 Thread Mark Schonewille

Josep,

It is very well possible that a table object intercepts all messages.  
You should be able to override this by inserting your script into front:


insert script of btn Front Scripts into front

This button could contain the following script:

on functionKey theKey
  if theKey is 4 then
-- your script here
  else
pass functionKey
  end if
end functionKey

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Op 5-nov-2006, om 21:31 heeft Josep M Yepes het volgende geschreven:


Hi Mark,

The message work fine into card script, but into the Table Fields  
doesn't run.
It seems like into (when you are editing one cell) the Table Fields  
nothing can be intercepted.


Cheers,
Josep


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Re: Scripter's Scrapbook and PayPal problems

2006-11-05 Thread Wilhelm Sanke

On Sun Nov 5, Hugh Senior at FlexibleLearning at aol.com wrote:


Hi Wilhelm,

Your order was confirmed by  PayPal, although there was an initial 
'pending'
notification that  lasted only a few minutes. So it seems that all 
went as

expected.
(snip)




Hi Hugh,

Is it correct to assume that you will notify PayPal about my problem story?

Regards,

Wilhelm

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Re: Corrupted Files in OS X

2006-11-05 Thread Sivakatirswami


Andreas:

I just recently had some similar problems... the  file
name of my stack was too long. e.g.

SomeReallyLongFileNameLikeThis.rev

would break on OSX because when rev makes
it's temp back up file, the file name is hashed
or some such thing... I really don't understand it
but when I changed it to

someShorterName.rev

problem went away.

skts

oneandreas wrote:

Hello Gregory

propably the same happens within my setup.
I'm using a shared folder  on a Windows 2003 server.
This has rw permissions. However, I end up with a
file that has the .revtilde extension.
Then my runrev app freezes.

I see, you wrote this long ago - so perhaps you know
what you did to solve this?

Thanks for a hint.
Kind regards

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cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
I just cleaned out the cRevTable property set from objects in a client's 
stack, and it dropped his stack size from 11MB down to a tidy 40k.


Are the redundant copies of field data being stored in a bloated 
htmlText form for each RevTable object truly essential for RevTables to 
work as such?


If so, I'll BZ it as a design bug.

If not, I'll BZ it as an operational bug.

Emptying a field MUST empty the field

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Re: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread Chipp Walters

Yes, there are also other rev props which can be 'cleaned' from a stack with
no side-effects. In fact, my altClean plugin regularly saves 50% or more of
stacks when I save them.

If you haven't yet tried it, put this in the message box:

go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/revAltCleanStack.rev;

Then palette the stack (click in the very topLeft of the altClean stack
window) and you can see for yourself.

For those of you wondering, Rev does strip these properties when building a
standalone with your stack. But, if you use stacks which aren't in
standalones (like data stacks, or plugins), you should always altClean them.

best,
Chipp
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Re: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread Richard Gaskin

Chipp Walters wrote:


Yes, there are also other rev props which can be 'cleaned' from a stack with
no side-effects.


The RevTable settings aren't stored in that property set?

Are there any cRev* property sets which CAN'T be safely deleted?

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HostNameToAddress Function

2006-11-05 Thread Bridger Maxwell

Hey,
 I made a networking stack that retrieves information about the computer.
The first check it does is hostName().  This returns the name of the
machine.  Then I take the result of that and run it through
hostNameToAddress() to find the IP address.  This works fine on my computer,
but one one of my friends, the hostNameToAddress() doesn't return anything.
The hostName() function still works though.  We are both running Mac OSX.
Has anyone had experience with this?  Is there a different way to find the
IP address?

 TTFN
   Bridger
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Re: links again

2006-11-05 Thread Timothy Miller

Thanks Mark, Sarah, Judy, and others, very much.

I'm afraid I haven't benefited from the sample stacks generously 
offered, because I haven't been able to find them on RevOnLine, but I'm 
working on that, and will soon succeed.


It sounds like the general idea is pretty straightforward. I didn't 
realize the linkText property exists, and that I can set it as I like.


Pending study of the stacks suggested...

How would I set the linkText if I wanted the link to send a message, 
possibly with parameters or global variables, or execute a script?


As I think about it, I suppose that if I give each link a unique 
linkText, I can simply use if or case statements further up the 
hierarchy to send messages, execute scripts or whatever. Is that the 
right approach? Is there another way? -- Well, there's always another 
way, but is there another standard way?


I'm still a little fuzzy on the HTMLtext.

I know you can export a formatted field as HTML. Is it also possible to 
set the HTMLtext of a chunk in a field, so it displays and behaves 
according to the HTML tags I specify? (I understand RR uses a subset of 
HTML.)


Tim

Judy Perry wrote:

Tim,

You can also check out a simple stack I have explaining how to do this up
on RevOnline in the Education category:  Hyperlinks in Transcript.

HTH,

Judy

  


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Re: Problems with my eyes: RR Documentation

2006-11-05 Thread Kay C Lan

On 11/6/06, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Now, the clever thing would be a way to set the
fontsizes of the Documentation via the Preferences,
just as one can set the font and its size for the
Script Editor (I personally favour size 18).


Good idea, although I think investing in some reading glasses might be
wise:-) Got old, got the glasses and am still enjoying packing
everything in at size 11. Although you know what they always say, size
doesn't matter, its what you do with it:-)
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Re: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread SimPLsol
Chipp,
One of the options on AltCleanStack is 
clear cREVGeometry
What is this?
Thanks,
Paul Looney


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 go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/revAltCleanStack.rev;
 
 

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Re: HostNameToAddress Function

2006-11-05 Thread Bridger Maxwell

I found out some more information.  Apparently the nslookup Unix command
returns the following:
nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server: 192.168.0.1
Address:192.168.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
158.36.131.209.in-addr.arpa name = f1.www.vip.sp1.yahoo.com.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
36.131.209.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns5.yahoo.com.
36.131.209.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns7.yahoo.com.
36.131.209.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.yahoo.com.
36.131.209.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.yahoo.com.
36.131.209.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns3.yahoo.com.
ns1.yahoo.com   internet address = 66.218.71.63
ns2.yahoo.com   internet address = 68.142.255.16
ns3.yahoo.com   internet address = 217.12.4.104
ns5.yahoo.com   internet address = 216.109.116.17
ns7.yahoo.com   internet address = 68.142.226.82

I guess that means that nslookup has been removed from her machine?  Is that
what Revolution uses for hostNameToAddress()?

 TTFN
   Bridger

On 11/5/06, Bridger Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey,
  I made a networking stack that retrieves information about the
computer.  The first check it does is hostName().  This returns the name of
the machine.  Then I take the result of that and run it through
hostNameToAddress() to find the IP address.  This works fine on my computer,
but one one of my friends, the hostNameToAddress() doesn't return anything.
The hostName() function still works though.  We are both running Mac OSX.
Has anyone had experience with this?  Is there a different way to find the
IP address?

  TTFN
Bridger


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Re: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread Chipp Walters

Hi Paul,

If you use the Geometry Manager to manage resizing of stacks, then you don't
want to delete the cREVGeometry prop set. It is only set if/when you are
using Geometry Manager. Sometimes, you may have tried GM and decided not to
use it, but the GM prop sets are still there. In those cases it is good to
delete the prop set.

Richard,

Since I never used cREVtable, I didn't check for it. But it is a different
prop set and should be deleted. Like GM, cREVtable isn't set unless the
Table Object in the field properties settings is checked. So, just created
tabstops and hGrid,vGrid does not put it on. Frankly, I wasn't aware on how
large those props may have been.

All that said, I imagine your client was using it in a fairly unconventional
way to see those kinds of file savings. Was cREVtable caching old data?

Everyone,

Though many of these prop sets contain either redundant or useless data for
your deployed application, none of them actually hurt anything. So, leaving
them alone is okay, too.
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Re: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread Richard Gaskin

Chipp Walters wrote:


All that said, I imagine your client was using it in a fairly unconventional
way to see those kinds of file savings.


Nothing more unconventional that displaying a list of records from a 
database.


In plain tab-delimited form, the list itself is much smaller than the 
copy stored in the custom prop.  Apparently the redundant copy of the 
data is being stored in the uniquely bloated htmlText format rather than 
the simple tab-delimited format the field itself uses.


I don't know why the redundant copy is in htmlText, but then again I 
don't know why it's there at all


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RE: cRevTable properties

2006-11-05 Thread MisterX
Just for your information,

I just gained 600Ks back from my xos stack - 60%!!! 

Worse, I found that all my fields had a crevTable prop (which I NEVER
used!)... I must have accidentally clicked on the table button once...

Since then all the fields have the prop (it seems). However there's side
effect that when you select a field, choose Table from the menu of the
prop palette, the prop palette will go in a seemingly infinite loop... Which
is an indicator that your stack was polutted with the unwanted revtable
props...

what you need to add to revAltCleanStack's card script is ...

on cleanRevTableSets pObj
  get the customPropertySets of pObj
  set the wholeMatches to true
  delete line lineOffset(cREVTable,it) of it
  set the customPropertySets of pObj to it
end cleanRevTableSets

You also need to call it within the controls' loops in that same card
script...

Thanks Chipp! 

Cheers
Xavier


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 Subject: Re: cRevTable properties
 
 Chipp Walters wrote:
 
  All that said, I imagine your client was using it in a fairly 
  unconventional way to see those kinds of file savings.
 
 Nothing more unconventional that displaying a list of records 
 from a database.
 
 In plain tab-delimited form, the list itself is much smaller 
 than the copy stored in the custom prop.  Apparently the 
 redundant copy of the data is being stored in the uniquely 
 bloated htmlText format rather than the simple tab-delimited 
 format the field itself uses.
 
 I don't know why the redundant copy is in htmlText, but then 
 again I don't know why it's there at all
 
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