User groups
Following on from the Rev newsletter - anyone in the Glasgow, UK area interested? If so, drop me a mail off-list. B-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Application suspending after a window closes in 2.7.x
Combination of two earlier threads... I am running XP with Rev 2.7.2. In standalone, closing a modal suspends the rev application and the user is thrown into another currently running application (Outlook or Photoshop, for example). My understanding from the October/November time frame is that this is a known bug that was said to be high priority. Does anyone know if this has been fixed in newer versions? Is there *ANY* established workaround for it? Many thanks from the land of eternal snow. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revolution in background catchig arrow keys
Dear revs, How can I have revolution in background catching arrow keys? I need this feauture for a small application that import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow keys in Acrobat Reader program. I mean ...this is what I want to do: I open a Revolution stack. Then I open a pdf document (with a full screen presentation) using the program Acrobat Reader . I wuold like my revolution stack to import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow key (and move to another slide). How can I do this in Macintosh? Any idea? Thanks Paolo Mazza ** Paolo Mazza NEOL SRL Società partecipata da Università di Padova via N. Tommaseo 84 35131 - Padova (Italy) Tel 049- 2050147 - Fax 049-7964386 www.neol.it ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Whiteboard
Hi Ryno, Has anybody here developed a whiteboard application I have, for a client. And I went to BETT as well. I came back with loads of demo CD, information, and contacts of distributors of whiteboard software interested in having freelance developers contributing software for them. In fact, a whiteboard application is very simply put a normal application. The only difference is that mouse movements don't work. Well, you use a pen and only mousedown and mouseup movements get detected. You can't detect the movement when the pen is, well, not in contact with the whiteboard. You also have to have zones of detection that are larger than in normal applications (I can give you the precise information, but something that corresponds to about 5cm on the whiteboard). For the rest, you don't really have to take care of the annotation, draw shaping, etc. This is taken care of by the software sold with the whiteboard. What this software does is make a toolbar available to the end user, that appears comes on top of the application you write. Two popular products in the UK are : Promethean http://www.prometheanworld.com/uk/ Smart Board http://smarttech.com/ What I was told at BETT is that in the UK, 50% of the schools now have whiteboards. 25% in each single class. 25% in some classes. Often, they mix the two products above. To project on the whiteboard, teachers use a laptop (PC) connected in permanence to the web. Web connectivity in schools is now said to be highly reliable in schools. Do list members know about the situation in other countries? Marielle Has anybody here developed a whiteboard application? Is anybody keen to do so? Or willing to guide me through the process? I can get schoolchildren involved. What I am thinking of is something like this: A chat application PLUS a window in which, to start with, the various members of the chat can draw in black line and type in text, in turn or simultaneously. (If simultaneously a split-screen window would be an option, click here to save this board). It would be wonderful for collaborative work, such as building a whiteboard application: ) Ryno. Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
whiteboards
Hi Ryno, A chat application PLUS a window in which, to start with, the various members of the chat can draw in black line and type in text, in turn or simultaneously For this, you would probably better go for a standard lab situation. Whiteboards are really not practical for writing on them. You can pop a keyboard view on the screen, but this means typing a word letter by letter. Quite cumbersome. If all kids are in the classroom, they you would get more interactivity by podcasting them and organizing mini-interviews. They do this very nicely in this school : http://www.castlemanor.suffolk.sch.uk/stars/latest.php Two of the pupils were on the stand Tomorrow's Learners Today. I discussed with them for an hour. What they do in this school is apparently very cool. Given what you describe, you may want to check out these products: http://www.facetwoface.co.uk/ and http://www.boxnewmedia.co.uk/ face2face/face2face_fact_sheet.pdf http://rafi.ki/ -- Rafi.ki is a funky new online learning community with a difference: it's just for secondary schools*, it's safe and it's a lot of fun! http://www.j2e.com/ -- create share learn http://www.pebblelearning.co.uk/ -- peeblepad. portfolio for life http://www.horizonwimba.com/ -- Horizon Wimba develops web-based collaboration software designed for online education, language learning and live interactive communications. Then if you are into engaging teaching, you may want to also check out this. http://www.filmstreet.co.uk/default.aspa?flash=tt Film street http://www.magicstudio.co.uk/ -- Access hundreds of digital resources and create personalised, interactive learning activities without the need for specialist ICT skills. http://www.createascape.org.uk/ Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
game based learning
Any Educator or user on the list interested in game-based learning? I would be interested in having them beta test and give feedback on an application. I would also be interested in creating some common space with relevant information. I already put a lot of links at http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/ tiki-index.php?page=EtivitiesGames. But I would be interested in creating better organized pages with text and guidelines. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
user groups : educators
Hiya, Any educator out there who would be interested in a weekly, biweekly or monthly chat session over skype or AIM? This would be about exchanging information on current projects, funding opportunities, interesting articles or news, eventual organisation of the development of a shared set of resources, etc. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revolution in background catchig arrow keys
if you call a handler every so often and check 'the keysDown' you can catch key presses. on openStack checkKeys end openStack on checkKeys -- check for LEFT key if 65361 is in the keysDown then -- do snapshot end if send checkKeys to this stack in 100 millisecs end checkKeys Hope this helps JC paolo mazza wrote: Dear revs, How can I have revolution in background catching arrow keys? I need this feauture for a small application that import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow keys in Acrobat Reader program. I mean ...this is what I want to do: I open a Revolution stack. Then I open a pdf document (with a full screen presentation) using the program Acrobat Reader . I wuold like my revolution stack to import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow key (and move to another slide). How can I do this in Macintosh? Any idea? Thanks Paolo Mazza ** Paolo Mazza NEOL SRL Società partecipata da Università di Padova via N. Tommaseo 84 35131 - Padova (Italy) Tel 049- 2050147 - Fax 049-7964386 www.neol.it ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything
Yeah Mark, that's the bug. I believe Trevor's well documented it and I believe I've heard it's fixed in a newer version, when it gets released. On 1/31/07, Mark Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This, I believe, is the bug in 2.7.2 that Chipp raised a few weeks back. Am I right? Anyone know if that little bug has been fixed? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Whiteboard
gripe One thing that ticks me off about software merchants that often in their ignorance or arrogance, they NEVER mention WHAT PLATFORM their software will run on, as if Windoze was the only game in town. Then if one is possibly interested in the utility or app, one has to laboriously plow through the advertising, web sites and pdfs to find out. It turns out that both of these links lead to products that have some level of mac compatibility, but it took a bit of time to find out. At Promethean, the only clue was an icon for Mac OS 9 (smiling mac) which would indicate system 9. No MAC OS X logo was seen. For both there was absolutely no Macintosh version information. You see what I mean? For such companies that seem to do this, I tend to want to go somewhere else. /gripe Two popular products in the UK are : Promethean http://www.prometheanworld.com/uk/ Smart Board http://smarttech.com/ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
I guess I have to register as a chat-hater and non-texter, but I just don't see the efficiency of using chat when email and mail-lists work better. Chat requires you to sit there with full attention and wait for responses, and encourages one to type hastily, which can lead to misinterpretation. It's a complete time suck for me, your mileage may vary. I get all tense and impatient during chat, waiting for people to type, and wishing I hadn't joined the chat. One can't really do anything else during a chat session. A whiteboard or video image during chat adds a lot of value to a chat session. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Hiya, Any educator out there who would be interested in a weekly, biweekly or monthly chat session over skype or AIM? This would be about exchanging information on current projects, funding opportunities, interesting articles or news, eventual organisation of the development of a shared set of resources, etc. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: whiteboards
Agreed, Stephen. At the show, I couldn't even find any information about mac compatibility. That's very weird. Many schools have invested in macs as they have the reputation to encourage more creative activities. But all whiteboard applications were run on PCs. As if they expect the teacher to be fluent with both platforms. That's quite interesting. All stands with plenty of pupils around or taking parts in various activities like creating podcasts on the show, or on the stand with the two kids I spoke with, they were all filled with Macs. Then all these whiteboard applications where that's about a student listening and sometimes pressing on the key of a multibutton keypad, they were running on PCs. Sure, these whiteboard applications are a lot more interactive than before. Sure, they allow students to better visualise some problems (there was a nice mathematical problem of transporting 50 pupils from one point to another in a tractor who could only hold 4 at a time, where you could put pupils in the tractor, get the tractor moving, drop down the pupils at the end and start again). But it is possible to do *a lot* better than this. The idea of chat is good. Pity the absence of way to easily input text is a bit of a hurdle. But there are other teaching situations that you can imagine where students would collaboratively solve a problem, by manipulating objects on the screen. Revolution would be such a nice software to develop such applications. Then there is something else that should be done with revolution. But this thing, I was told that if I was to do it, I would become millionaire. Who wants to share a million? What is your guess? Marielle gripe One thing that ticks me off about software merchants that often in their ignorance or arrogance, they NEVER mention WHAT PLATFORM their software will run on, as if Windoze was the only game in town. Then if one is possibly interested in the utility or app, one has to laboriously plow through the advertising, web sites and pdfs to find out. It turns out that both of these links lead to products that have some level of mac compatibility, but it took a bit of time to find out. At Promethean, the only clue was an icon for Mac OS 9 (smiling mac) which would indicate system 9. No MAC OS X logo was seen. For both there was absolutely no Macintosh version information. You see what I mean? For such companies that seem to do this, I tend to want to go somewhere else. /gripe Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
I get all tense and impatient during chat, waiting for people to type, and wishing I hadn't joined the chat. One can't really do anything else during a chat session. A whiteboard or video image during chat adds a lot of value to a chat session. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Good to see you are optimistic and expect to have a lot of persons to join ;-). I kind of agree. Once there are more than 3 persons text chats can be cumbersome. Voice chats are faster. Still, voice chats with more than 5 are a bit unpractical. The chore idea, however, is to have a regular meeting. That is an arranged time where we expect to meet others and discuss. The fact there is a meeting planned often force to think of content for that meeting. Which generates more discussion than if persons are free to post whenever they want. What you describe, video image... a teacher friend of mine told me about such a software (PC only unfortunately). I forgot the details... I will have to get back to her. Let's start with an easy question. Let's forget about technology for now. Would teachers/educators/academics on this list be interested in regular meetings? Is there some need to have subgroups like primary/ secondary/higher education. Are there persons interested in special areas like special needs, ICT learning to program, science, history/ geography, etc? What about organizing at least a first meeting (chat or any other means) where educators can introduce themselves to one another so we know names and interests? What are the views of other users on this? Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revolution in background catchig arrow keys
On 2/1/07 6:45 AM, paolo mazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear revs, How can I have revolution in background catching arrow keys? I need this feauture for a small application that import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow keys in Acrobat Reader program. I mean ...this is what I want to do: I open a Revolution stack. Then I open a pdf document (with a full screen presentation) using the program Acrobat Reader . I wuold like my revolution stack to import a scrennshot any time the user press the arrow key (and move to another slide). How can I do this in Macintosh? Any idea? Thanks Check the following two messages and test to see which suits your desired behavior on keydown on rawkeydown in the dictionary. Basically, you check which key code was sent and pass it if you want to ignore it, or do an action, then choose to pass it anyway. This will work even if a user is typing into a field, so this would intercept keystrokes at anytime. Adding modifier keys is done this way if the commandkey is down then = if the commandkey is down and the shiftkey is down then = Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Application suspending after a window closes in 2.7.x
On Feb 1, 2007, at 3:23 AM, Mark Powell wrote: Combination of two earlier threads... I am running XP with Rev 2.7.2. In standalone, closing a modal suspends the rev application and the user is thrown into another currently running application (Outlook or Photoshop, for example). My understanding from the October/November time frame is that this is a known bug that was said to be high priority. Does anyone know if this has been fixed in newer versions? Is there *ANY* established workaround for it? Many thanks from the land of eternal snow. Hi Mark, This hasn't been fixed in 2.7.4 but I imagine it will be in 2.7.5. I don't know of any workarounds but I haven't tried to find any either. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Stephen Barncard wrote: I get all tense and impatient during chat, waiting for people to type, and wishing I hadn't joined the chat. One can't really do anything else during a chat session. True... unless you are using a 3D virtual world (http://www.secondlife.com/)as your chat interface. When you are waiting for someone to type, you could be preparing to drop an image or video onto a 3D object to aid in your text discussion. I like using the optional text bubbles that appear above the avatar. It's much easier to follow who is speaking than pages of chat text. A whiteboard or video image during chat adds a lot of value to a chat session. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Recently, several large companies like BMW, Dell, and IBM have been creating cybershops inside this virtial world. I see this becoming the next phase in the evolution of the internet. It would be quite easy to chat/whiteboard in this environment. I read an article where IBM employees were having a conference in SL, and presentations were being streamed onto a virtual big screen while the participants sat at virtual tables. The detail was quite realistic. I can't find the pics, but here is a little more info... http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2006/10/24/ibm-eyes-move-into-second-life-v-business/ http://www.conversationblog.com/journal/2006/9/12/ibm-holds-alumni-meeting-on-secondlife.html http://slbusinesscommunicators.pbwiki.com/Companies+in+Second+Life?raw=1 BTW, SecondLife works on Windows, OS X, and Linux (linux client is beta). Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Hi Roger, Yes, I had that in mind as well, some revolution bar in Second life. Indeed many companies organize training or support within the second life environment. What is your character name in second life? Mine is Sydney Scapin (but I don't connect that often... I find it a bit slow) Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
Hello everyone, I started to tinker with the RevSpeak to create a little novelty stack to help me practice hitting the right notes on the first three strings of the guitar. (It's a drill to improvise in any position on the neck). I created a handler that will say different notes at random, for example, Two high C means play high C on the second string. I substitued eh for A so that it's pronounced as long A. Looping this would then create the exercise (which could probably be tolerated for no more than three minutes). I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Regards, Gregory on mouseUp put eh,B,C,D,E,F,G into naturalNotes put low,high into thePitch revSetSpeechSpeed 20 revSpeak random(3) item random(2) of thePitch item random(7) of naturalNotes end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LIST and RUNREV security
I'm still getting an inordinate amount of SPAM from scumbags that somehow harvested my special RUNREV email address. I only use this address for my business with Runrev, so I can kill it if it gets too much spam. Unfortunately, changing this email address will have to be done at five or more places. My official RunRev address, the bug-list, the two mail-lists, and the authorization for my Rev Space all use this address. How can this happen? I thought our email addresses were sacrosanct at Rev. Does my email address still get shown in plain view on the Forum and Bugzilla sites? and yes, I did file a bugzilla report on this as well. sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
On 2/1/07 11:51 AM, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to tinker with the RevSpeak to create a little novelty stack to help me practice hitting the right notes on the first three strings of the guitar. (It's a drill to improvise in any position on the neck). I created a handler that will say different notes at random, for example, Two high C means play high C on the second string. I substitued eh for A so that it's pronounced as long A. Looping this would then create the exercise (which could probably be tolerated for no more than three minutes). I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech on test --copy this into a Rev script to listen put quote into q put say q It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up!q \ using qcellosq into cmd do cmd as applescript end test Now you could make your notes lines in a field say It's time to wake up using cellos say It's time to play music using ralph As a test-- paste this into an Applescript Script Editor window and click 'Run' say Good morning Al. using Whisper delay 2 say Al, it's time to rise and shine. using Fred delay 1 say The current time is using Vicky say (time string of (current date)) using Vicky delay 2 say Wake up sleepy head using Trinoids delay 2 say You asked us to wake you up at this time. using Victoria delay 2 say It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up! using cellos Just google applescript text to speech to get many more ideas and refinements. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
chat application in a classroom context
Hi Ryno, A chat application PLUS a window in which, to start with, the various members of the chat can draw in black line and type in text, in turn or simultaneously In case this is any helpful, check out: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ChatRev is a chat client entirely written in Runtime Revolution. It consist of a Client and a Server. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
Well, what comparable possibilities do we have in the remaining 90% of the world (e.g. Windows)? V. ---Original Message--- From: Jim Ault Date: 02/01/07 22:55:52 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic? On 2/1/07 11:51 AM, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to tinker with the RevSpeak to create a little novelty stack to help me practice hitting the right notes on the first three strings of the guitar. (It's a drill to improvise in any position on the neck). I created a handler that will say different notes at random, for example, Two high C means play high C on the second string. I substitued eh for A so that it's pronounced as long A. Looping this would then create the exercise (which could probably be tolerated for no more than three minutes). I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech on test --copy this into a Rev script to listen put quote into q put say q It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up!q \ using qcellosq into cmd do cmd as applescript end test Now you could make your notes lines in a field say It's time to wake up using cellos say It's time to play music using ralph As a test-- paste this into an Applescript Script Editor window and click 'Run' say Good morning Al. using Whisper delay 2 say Al, it's time to rise and shine. using Fred delay 1 say The current time is using Vicky say (time string of (current date)) using Vicky delay 2 say Wake up sleepy head using Trinoids delay 2 say You asked us to wake you up at this time. using Victoria delay 2 say It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up! using cellos Just google applescript text to speech to get many more ideas and refinements. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
Stephen, What makes you think that you shouldn't get spam, as soon as you write one e-mail to this list? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 1-feb-2007, om 21:03 heeft Stephen Barncard het volgende geschreven: I'm still getting an inordinate amount of SPAM from scumbags that somehow harvested my special RUNREV email address. I only use this address for my business with Runrev, so I can kill it if it gets too much spam. Unfortunately, changing this email address will have to be done at five or more places. My official RunRev address, the bug-list, the two mail-lists, and the authorization for my Rev Space all use this address. How can this happen? I thought our email addresses were sacrosanct at Rev. Does my email address still get shown in plain view on the Forum and Bugzilla sites? and yes, I did file a bugzilla report on this as well. sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech You don't need AppleScript to set the voice. Check out revSpeechVoices() and revSetSpeechVoice. These work on Mac Windows, although when testing on Windows I have only ever found one voice Microsoft Sam or something similar. Some are better than others but they do all sound robotic because they are generating the speech from text, not using sampled sounds. In Leopard, the Mac voices are supposed to be getting an upgrade. If you wanted to get better quality, you could record a real voice saying the various words letters and string them together with a play command. Since you are using a fairly small set of sounds, this would be a feasible way to go. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
I hear that knee-jerk 90% figure mentioned all the time. I don't think it's accurate anymore. Anyway, many of that 90% are CNC drilling machines, point of sale terminals and imbedded systems, not desktops. Does anybody have REAL, documented, unbiased platform numbers? Well, what comparable possibilities do we have in the remaining 90% of the world (e.g. Windows)? V. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
It's supposed to be a closed list, not publicly displayed. If that's not the case, then I'll change my email and won't post here anymore. I don't have this problem with most other mail lists. sqb Stephen, What makes you think that you shouldn't get spam, as soon as you write one e-mail to this list? Best, Mark -- -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
Stephen , Have you considered the possibility that any list member could have an infected PC with your email address in the archives of his/her email client ? JB I'm still getting an inordinate amount of SPAM from scumbags that somehow harvested my special RUNREV email address. I only use this address for my business with Runrev, so I can kill it if it gets too much spam. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
On 1 Feb 2007, at 20:03, Stephen Barncard wrote: I'm still getting an inordinate amount of SPAM from scumbags that somehow harvested my special RUNREV email address. I only use this address for my business with Runrev, so I can kill it if it gets too much spam. Unfortunately, changing this email address will have to be done at five or more places. My official RunRev address, the bug-list, the two mail-lists, and the authorization for my Rev Space all use this address. How can this happen? I thought our email addresses were sacrosanct at Rev. Does my email address still get shown in plain view on the Forum and Bugzilla sites? One problem is that your email address is on the computers of all subscribers to the list. (I can see it right in front of me.) I hear enough about spyware to think it's not unlikely that at least one subscriber has been infected by something that harvests addresses from the local hard drive. I don't think there's much you can do about that. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
Hi Stephen, As soon as you post here, your e-mail address sits on thousands of computers, regardless of the closed nature of this list. Maybe that explains something? Still, I get only a few dozens of e-mails on this address, each day, even though I use it everywhere on the internet and it is even available on the Economy-x-Talk web site and many other places. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 1-feb-2007, om 22:14 heeft Stephen Barncard het volgende geschreven: It's supposed to be a closed list, not publicly displayed. If that's not the case, then I'll change my email and won't post here anymore. I don't have this problem with most other mail lists. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: knee-jerk 90
August 14 2006: 1. Windows XP 86.80% 2. Windows 2000 6.09% 3. Windows 98 2.68% 4. Macintosh 2.32% 5. Windows ME 1.09% 6. Linux 0.36% 7. Windows NT 0.24% 8. Macintosh Power PC 0.15% Source: www.onestat.com Indeed, I know only a few design firms nearby that use Apples. Everywhere else (shops, firms, schools, university) Windows and Linux only. Simply because Macs are so expensive... I am still dreaming about buying one ;-). I have used Apple once, in an international conference on multimedia tools... No one from people I know own Apple. Once I asked at the university about availability of Macintosh computer and the answer was - a friend of friend of mine has it... Situation in the USA of course may be quite different (in favor of Macs) from Europe or the rest of the world. But when we speak about an ordinary desktop user its Windows by default... Best wishes Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Stephen Barncard Date: 2007.02.01 23:14:19 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic? I hear that knee-jerk 90% figure mentioned all the time. I don't think it's accurate anymore. Anyway, many of that 90% are CNC drilling machines, point of sale terminals and imbedded systems, not desktops. Does anybody have REAL, documented, unbiased platform numbers? Well, what comparable possibilities do we have in the remaining 90% of the world (e.g. Windows)? V. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: LIST and RUNREV security
As soon as you post here, your e-mail address sits on thousands of computers, regardless of the closed nature of this list. Maybe that explains something? Still, I get only a few dozens of e-mails on this address, each day, even though I use it everywhere on the internet and it is even available on the Economy-x-Talk web site and many other places. Also, many mailing lists are aggregated elsewhere, not always with permission, to sites such as Nabble. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: knee-jerk 90
August 14 2006: 1. Windows XP 86.80% 2. Windows 2000 6.09% 3. Windows 98 2.68% 4. Macintosh 2.32% 5. Windows ME 1.09% 6. Linux 0.36% 7. Windows NT 0.24% 8. Macintosh Power PC 0.15% If measuring the desktop market this looks pretty real to me. Toss the net wider and take in phone OSs (or even just servers), its going to look a little different. Id also conjecture that of those Win 2000 boxes, the majority of them are in corporations that are still (even with Vista here) migrating to XP and will be for some time to come. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
Dear Lynn, Sites such as Nabble and GMane don't display complete e-mail addresses. I don't think it is easy to harvest addresses from these site, although I would like to know if I am wrong. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 1-feb-2007, om 22:43 heeft Lynn Fredricks het volgende geschreven: Also, many mailing lists are aggregated elsewhere, not always with permission, to sites such as Nabble. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: knee-jerk 90
I've seen these figures get smaller and smaller for Apple every year. Yet they innovate, thrive, sell a lot of product and are flush with cash. Without confirmation these are just numbers thrown up again. As I said before, who harvested these figures, what are they based on and why should I believe them? August 14 2006: 1. Windows XP 86.80% 2. Windows 2000 6.09% 3. Windows 98 2.68% 4. Macintosh 2.32% 5. Windows ME 1.09% 6. Linux 0.36% 7. Windows NT 0.24% 8. Macintosh Power PC 0.15% If measuring the desktop market this looks pretty real to me. Toss the net wider and take in phone OSs (or even just servers), its going to look a little different. Id also conjecture that of those Win 2000 boxes, the majority of them are in corporations that are still (even with Vista here) migrating to XP and will be for some time to come. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: game based learning
Of course, *I* am always interested ;-) Judy On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Marielle Lange wrote: Any Educator or user on the list interested in game-based learning? I would be interested in having them beta test and give feedback on an application. I would also be interested in creating some common space with relevant information. I already put a lot of links at http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/ tiki-index.php?page=EtivitiesGames. But I would be interested in creating better organized pages with text and guidelines. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ education-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/education-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Count me in.. Judy On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Marielle Lange wrote: Hiya, Any educator out there who would be interested in a weekly, biweekly or monthly chat session over skype or AIM? This would be about exchanging information on current projects, funding opportunities, interesting articles or news, eventual organisation of the development of a shared set of resources, etc. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ education-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/education-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Stephen, I agree; chat can be especially difficult when you've got participants not in anything like the same time zone. Still, when it comes to getting educators to participate, I'm for anything that helps make that happen. Just my two small monetary units... still like mailing lists better, but I guess I'm about to be discovered by a team of archaeologists somewhere ;-) Judy On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Stephen Barncard wrote: I guess I have to register as a chat-hater and non-texter, but I just don't see the efficiency of using chat when email and mail-lists work better. Chat requires you to sit there with full attention and wait for responses, and encourages one to type hastily, which can lead to misinterpretation. It's a complete time suck for me, your mileage may vary. I get all tense and impatient during chat, waiting for people to type, and wishing I hadn't joined the chat. One can't really do anything else during a chat session. A whiteboard or video image during chat adds a lot of value to a chat session. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Hiya, Any educator out there who would be interested in a weekly, biweekly or monthly chat session over skype or AIM? This would be about exchanging information on current projects, funding opportunities, interesting articles or news, eventual organisation of the development of a shared set of resources, etc. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
Exactly and my point was that the Rev sites don't obfuscate email addresses like they should. Dear Lynn, Sites such as Nabble and GMane don't display complete e-mail addresses. I don't think it is easy to harvest addresses from these site, although I would like to know if I am wrong. Best, Mark -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
They all sound good to me.. Judy On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Marielle Lange wrote: Would teachers/educators/academics on this list be interested in regular meetings? Is there some need to have subgroups like primary/ secondary/higher education. Are there persons interested in special areas like special needs, ICT learning to program, science, history/ geography, etc? What about organizing at least a first meeting (chat or any other means) where educators can introduce themselves to one another so we know names and interests? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
On 2/1/07 1:03 PM, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, what comparable possibilities do we have in the remaining 90% of the world (e.g. Windows)? V. The original question was for a Mac G4 quick-utility and since I don't work much on the Windows platform I don't have an answer. There are 3-5 ways of doing this on the Mac and I am sure there are ways of doing something similar on Windows. Hopefully someone with good experience can chime in. Don't get me wrong about WinXP. I use it and rely on it in one of my two businesses. Could not run without it. But I mostly write Rev cross-plat apps, some Excel, and much networking. Nothing with voices or sound. Jim Ault Las Vegas ---Original Message--- From: Jim Ault Date: 02/01/07 22:55:52 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic? On 2/1/07 11:51 AM, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to tinker with the RevSpeak to create a little novelty stack to help me practice hitting the right notes on the first three strings of the guitar. (It's a drill to improvise in any position on the neck). I created a handler that will say different notes at random, for example, Two high C means play high C on the second string. I substitued eh for A so that it's pronounced as long A. Looping this would then create the exercise (which could probably be tolerated for no more than three minutes). I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech on test --copy this into a Rev script to listen put quote into q put say q It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up!q \ using qcellosq into cmd do cmd as applescript end test Now you could make your notes lines in a field say It's time to wake up using cellos say It's time to play music using ralph As a test-- paste this into an Applescript Script Editor window and click 'Run' say Good morning Al. using Whisper delay 2 say Al, it's time to rise and shine. using Fred delay 1 say The current time is using Vicky say (time string of (current date)) using Vicky delay 2 say Wake up sleepy head using Trinoids delay 2 say You asked us to wake you up at this time. using Victoria delay 2 say It's time to wake up, it's time to wake up! using cellos Just google applescript text to speech to get many more ideas and refinements. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: LIST and RUNREV security
Hi Mark, Sites such as Nabble and GMane don't display complete e-mail addresses. I don't think it is easy to harvest addresses from these site, although I would like to know if I am wrong. They usually make you jump through some hoops to be able to bounce back spam using their system. But that doesn't mean though that their systems don't have holes in them - in the software or in the humans running them. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: knee-jerk 90
I've seen these figures get smaller and smaller for Apple every year. Yet they innovate, thrive, sell a lot of product and are flush with cash. I find these figures believable because Ive seen similar ones from a variety of sources that otherwise wouldn't come from the same well (such as PC shipments in Japan from companies in Japan that track such things). Apple being profitable doesn't have to be immediately associated with % of the PC market. Apple has its own ecosystem of products and markets and its really maximized the amount of profit it can generate through all venues associated from it. I think it was totally appropriate that they dropped the word Computer from their name. Stephen, have you read Geoffrey Moore's Inside the Tornado? I recommend it (his other books are great) in particular because it makes a lot of sense for what's going on at Apple (ie it being a good thing for Apple). Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rotate Graphic Image Smoothly?
Dear Rev Graphics Gurus, Is there a way to SMOOTHLY rotate a graphical image around it's center point in Rev? If so, then how could I make this image do this on the web? Do I need to create it as an animated .gif file, or is there a better way? Thanks in advance for any pointers! Rick Harrison mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech Wait for OS 10.5. The new voices are very human like. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: knee-jerk 90
Where do you live Viktoras? Here in Australia the Macs are more expensive myth has been debunked for years now, provided one compares machines with similar specs. As an amusing sideline to this thread, CNET is running a poll asking when people plan to switch to Vista: http://news.com.com/Vista+steals+the+show/2100-1016_3-6154632.html The poll is still open, but here are the results to date: How soon do you plan to move to Microsoft's latest OS? I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon.50.8% Windows XP is going to last me a good, long time. 20.9% Whenever I buy my next PC. 20.8% I'm standing in line right now to buy it. 7.5% Total votes: 13540 Cheers, Sarah On 2/2/07, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: August 14 2006: 1. Windows XP 86.80% 2. Windows 2000 6.09% 3. Windows 98 2.68% 4. Macintosh 2.32% 5. Windows ME 1.09% 6. Linux 0.36% 7. Windows NT 0.24% 8. Macintosh Power PC 0.15% Source: www.onestat.com Indeed, I know only a few design firms nearby that use Apples. Everywhere else (shops, firms, schools, university) Windows and Linux only. Simply because Macs are so expensive... I am still dreaming about buying one ;-). I have used Apple once, in an international conference on multimedia tools... No one from people I know own Apple. Once I asked at the university about availability of Macintosh computer and the answer was - a friend of friend of mine has it... Situation in the USA of course may be quite different (in favor of Macs) from Europe or the rest of the world. But when we speak about an ordinary desktop user its Windows by default... Best wishes Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Stephen Barncard Date: 2007.02.01 23:14:19 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic? I hear that knee-jerk 90% figure mentioned all the time. I don't think it's accurate anymore. Anyway, many of that 90% are CNC drilling machines, point of sale terminals and imbedded systems, not desktops. Does anybody have REAL, documented, unbiased platform numbers? Well, what comparable possibilities do we have in the remaining 90% of the world (e.g. Windows)? V. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
Yes? That's great news. To get very good voices one had to pay a premium to ATT last time I looked. Does Vista have similarly good voices? Mark On Feb 1, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I was wondering if there's a way to make the voice sound a little more human. I'm doing this on an iBook G4. Probably would be more flexible to use Applescript and the OSX Text To Speech, where you have a whole list of voices. See System prefs:Speech Wait for OS 10.5. The new voices are very human like. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Marielle Lange wrote: Yes, I had that in mind as well, some revolution bar in Second life. Indeed many companies organize training or support within the second life environment. What is your character name in second life? Mine is Sydney Scapin (but I don't connect that often... I find it a bit slow) Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education I am Roger Shatner in Second Life. I also find it a little slow unless I'm using a really fast computer with a good 3D video card. I'll look you up and give you one of my virtual SERUG Revolution t-shirts . :-) Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LIST and RUNREV security
I've noticed my spam has increased at least ten-fold since going this list. I suspect it results from being exposed to Windows Users. I've been on another list for over ten years and never had a spam problem, but that list had no Windows Users on it. Just Mac. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevSpeak - a little less robotic?
On Feb 1, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Yes? That's great news. To get very good voices one had to pay a premium to ATT last time I looked. Does Vista have similarly good voices? Mark Vista purposed to have improved voice technology as well. In Apple's normal fashion, they took pot shots at it. I heard a demo of it and it sounded much improved as well. The Apple version did sound more natural though. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: user groups : educators
Marielle: me too Sivakatirswami Judy Perry wrote: Count me in.. Judy On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Marielle Lange wrote: Hiya, Any educator out there who would be interested in a weekly, biweekly or monthly chat session over skype or AIM? This would be about exchanging information on current projects, funding opportunities, interesting articles or news, eventual organisation of the development of a shared set of resources, etc. Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ education-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/education-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Om shanti (In Peace) Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Shift-Click
Hi Everyone I’m on Mac OSX. In a script I’m trying to simulate a shift-Click. What’s wrong with this code? get loc of fld fldName put top of fld another fld +10 into item 2 of it click at it with shiftKey() down Thanks in advance Joe, Orlando, Florida ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rotate Graphic Image Smoothly?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to SMOOTHLY rotate a graphical image around it's center point in Rev? If so, then how could I make this image do this on the web? Do I need to create it as an animated .gif file, or is there a better way? If you're going to continually rotate an image, the way to do this is to set the angle of the image, which keeps the image's data intact. Note that the results are poor with regard to any transparency in the image (such as antialiasing of the edges and internal transparency). I believe the alphaData of the image is mapped down to 1 bit which causes jagged aliasing to display wherever there is transparency. If you can use with non-transparent images in your project, one way you might be able to work around the edge problem is to have an opaque image with lots of white space around it, so that any aliasing of the edges is not visible simply by virtue of being off screen. Let me know if this doesn't make sense. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
All insights welcome I don't see any solution on the horizon for our Rich Media delivery troubles where we are not able to get either a Revolution player OR a web browser with QT plug installed, to consistently pick up on the Fast Start Header and begin displaying frames as soon as enough data is buffered. I'm talking here about some serious data: 100 plus megabyte movies at 320 X 240 On some machines and on some connections,--both Mac and Windows... (I was thinking it was only Windows, but turned out some Mac users are now reporting the same behavior:) Both Revolution and-or the browser just appear to lock up when in fact all that has happened is that the OS + QT API has made some mysterious decision like Umm I'm not at all happy with this connection, so I'm going to ignore the Fast Start Header and make a pre-emptive decision to not show any frames at all until I have downloaded the entire movie. With no feedback mechanism... I don't see how one could trap for this event as it is not consistent across platforms or connections and it has nothing to do with, as far as we have determined, with any scripting variations (using Play or Set the Play Rate etc... all important to understand but nothing helps) Debugging this problem seems to be outside the scope of what is possible. So, I'm think now we *must* install Quicktime Streaming Server on our web box OR host the movies on reputable IPS whose only job is just to serve QT movies. ServePath, our current host, has great streaming services for just $$99 a month, but only Windows Media... :-( Sales there says QT is on their roadmap, but we don't see it happening everyone is agog with Flash... OK... bottom line questions: 1) It appears that QT Streaming serve is available for linux... anyone know if it works OK on Fedora Core 3? I only see references to Red Hat and am quite ignorant on all the Linux flavors 2) Any thoughts, pointers, experience to share gotchas on strategy? 3) Are other getting good success with streaming movies into Revolution Players with QT Streaming on the web box? 4) If we go this way... are we going to get good results on Windows too? 5) How does it work for those with lo-band width connections? Thanks! Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
playing a QT movie from memory?
I (dimly) understand that a binary file can be read from disk into a variable or custom property... Is it possible to read a QT movie from disk into memory and play it in a Player object? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote: I don't see any solution on the horizon for our Rich Media delivery troubles where we are not able to get either a Revolution player OR a web browser with QT plug installed, to consistently pick up on the Fast Start Header and begin displaying frames as soon as enough data is buffered. I'm talking here about some serious data: 100 plus megabyte movies at 320 X 240 Perhaps you could try breaking down your media into smaller chunks. 100MB seems relatively large for most non-corporate users. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shift-Click
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone I’m on Mac OSX. In a script I’m trying to simulate a shift-Click. What’s wrong with this code? get loc of fld fldName put top of fld another fld +10 into item 2 of it click at it with shiftKey() down Use: click at it with shiftKey No parentheses, no direction. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Relaunch
Has anybody use the relaunch command to prevent an application from being launch a second time while it is open? Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
All insights welcome I don't see any solution on the horizon for our Rich Media delivery troubles where we are not able to get either a Revolution player OR a web browser with QT plug Whoa, all this time I thought you WERE using QT streaming server. One thing I might suggest - try getting a Code Monster account at Dreamhost.com. Among the many 'goodies' offered is a real Quicktime streaming server, and you could AT LEAST fiddle with that and see if it helps. Depending on your bandwidth needs, this might be all you need -- you could get this account for $20/month. At least it's pretty cheap to try. If your bandwidth (quantity,n-tier) needs are greater, you should still contact them.. they DO have pretty good bandwidth policies. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: playing a QT movie from memory?
Of course, reading from a local disk it is used most efficiently. You could pull any file out of a stack, but I think keeping the files individually intact in a local folder works the best. I originally wanted to stream a set of help videos for may app, but instead ended up with a system where the user would choose the video from a menu, the handler would check to see if the video was already there, if not, it got downloaded to that folder by http and then played. It works perfectly... I (dimly) understand that a binary file can be read from disk into a variable or custom property... Is it possible to read a QT movie from disk into memory and play it in a Player object? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Receiving data with Sockets when behind a Router
I'm in need of some guidance. How do you resolve an IP address when it's behind a router or a firewall? I'm trying to build a simple communications device in Revolution, and I have been looking at some of the demo stacks that are out there. They all work wonderfully, but I occasionally run into the problem of being behind a Wireless Router. My IP address when connected through the router is 192.168.0.7, while the outside world see my IP as 69.179.91.117. Attempting to connect to the public IP address results in nothing. I mean I'm figuring with all the Instant Messengers and P2P programs out there that there's a way to do this. Help! Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
Actually getting another Dream Host account is on our road map. At least for someone else on the team... My experience has been that no matter how inexpensive a new site is or how good the support may be, every new business relationship, alternate box, server site, adds more admin overhead than you might expect. So, I would only go that route if running it on our box in SF doesn't work. We have a dual Xeon processor, 100 Megabit connection on our machine down by the bay and we are the *only* box using that connection and we are not even close to utilizing that pipe... we could serve 30-50 movies simultaneously and users will not feel even a pinch of slow down on port 80., unless they all they all had T1's of course. But Dreamhost will only offer 10 megabit shared connections...I worry about overload... i really don't have much experience to base this all on so I could be all wrong. But when we switched from OLM (10 megabit socket) to ServePath I am getting 10 times the FTP upload speeds (as just one example) for e.g. uploading a 50 megabyte movie to our new box, versus upload the same to the old box, where I would go for a walk but yes, agreed, a good option to test and with Code Monster and QT Streaming already installed... that's means it's maintained by them and not us.. that's a good thing. Stephen Barncard wrote: All insights welcome I don't see any solution on the horizon for our Rich Media delivery troubles where we are not able to get either a Revolution player OR a web browser with QT plug Whoa, all this time I thought you WERE using QT streaming server. One thing I might suggest - try getting a Code Monster account at Dreamhost.com. Among the many 'goodies' offered is a real Quicktime streaming server, and you could AT LEAST fiddle with that and see if it helps. Depending on your bandwidth needs, this might be all you need -- you could get this account for $20/month. At least it's pretty cheap to try. If your bandwidth (quantity,n-tier) needs are greater, you should still contact them.. they DO have pretty good bandwidth policies. -- Om shanti (In Peace) Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Receiving data with Sockets when behind a Router
Look at IP tunnelling. This allows a computer on a LAN to get a port or range of ports of various protocols through a router from the outside world. All routers will have this. http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/VS-IPTunneling.html then one can use dynDNS or other service to get the IP when it inevitably will change. sqb I'm in need of some guidance. How do you resolve an IP address when it's behind a router or a firewall? I'm trying to build a simple communications device in Revolution, and I have been looking at some of the demo stacks that are out there. They all work wonderfully, but I occasionally run into the problem of being behind a Wireless Router. My IP address when connected through the router is 192.168.0.7, while the outside world see my IP as 69.179.91.117. Attempting to connect to the public IP address results in nothing. I mean I'm figuring with all the Instant Messengers and P2P programs out there that there's a way to do this. Help! Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote: [snip] I'm talking here about some serious data: 100 plus megabyte movies at 320 X 240 Perhaps you could try breaking down your media into smaller chunks. 100MB seems relatively large for most non-corporate users. Scott: good thought.. We've done that in the past with audio Part 1 Part 2 etc. Our kind of content of those lengths could be easily chapterized in ways that will not seem too fragmented to the users. What would you suggest is a good max target size to use for a single movie? Right now I get fairly good results in Chennai, (Madras) even up to 25 megs. Of course Madras is really wired and may not be a good example. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Macinstruct articles on Revolution
Hi Everyone, Well, we started publishing articles on Revolution the 15th of last Month as promised. I've received some response from a few on the list, but I am more than eager to see what any of the rest of you think. They aren't super long and I've tried to make them reasonably interesting. So, if you have a little extra time and need some comic relief, take a look. This next weeks Chapter will be in response to whatever you guys have to say. http://www.macinstruct.com/codemojo There are a few other very interesting articles by other contributors that you may want to catch as well. Just click on the Columns button at the top of the page. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
Swami, (I hope that's a respectful nickname) I understand that the Darwin Streaming Server is the same code that runs Quicktime streaming server, and it works well. I'm sure it's exactly what is running at Dreamhost, as they are major users of Open Source. I didn't know you had such a robust dedicated server. Of course you should try and use it - perhaps the sysop for your ISP will help you install it. At any rate, it would be the exact same kind of server that you'd get at Dreamhost. I almost installed this software there, until I realized it was already installed at Dreamhost. It looks pretty good. It doesn't have the GUI based tools that the MacOS version has, so you'll probably have to install using the terminal. But again I'm guessing that Apple and the Open Source community have made it easier to install. http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html They also have a mail list which could prove invaluable. http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/streaming-server-users Welcome to Darwin Streaming Server, the open source version of Apple's QuickTime Streaming Server technology that allows you to send streaming media to clients across the Internet using the industry standard RTP and RTSP protocols. Based on the same code base as QuickTime Streaming Server, Darwin Streaming Server provides a high level of customizability and runs on a variety of platforms allowing you to manipulate the code to fit your needs. Who should use Darwin Streaming Server? While sharing the same code base as QuickTime Streaming Server, Darwin Streaming Server is an open source project intended for developers who need to stream QuickTime and MPEG-4 media on alternative platforms such as Windows, Linux, and Solaris, or those developers who need to extend and/or modify the existing streaming server code to fit their needs. Darwin Streaming Server is only supported by the open source community and is not eligible for technical support from Apple. Apple hosts a number of email discussion lists for Darwin Streaming Server users and developers to share ideas and discuss deployment scenarios. QuickTime Streaming Server (QTSS) is Apple's commercial streaming server delivered as part of Mac OS X Server. QTSS provides users with enhanced administration and media management tools as a result of the tight integration with Mac OS X Server; these tools are not available as part of the open source project. Technical support is available for QTSS as part of the AppleCare support plans provided for Mac OS X Server and Xserve. Both DSS and QTSS are built on a core server that provides state of the art quality of service features with Skip protection and Instant-On, and support for the latest digital media standards, MPEG-4 and 3GPP. Darwin Streaming Server is available as a free download under the Apple Public Source License. Actually getting another Dream Host account is on our road map. At least for someone else on the team... My experience has been that no matter how inexpensive a new site is or how good the support may be, every new business relationship, alternate box, server site, adds more admin overhead than you might expect. So, I would only go that route if running it on our box in SF doesn't work. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] New game made with Rev. Drops
Malte- Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 2:41:10 PM, you wrote: I am very proud to announce that after a while of quietness, I finally released a new product. I would also like to point out that the release of drops is Headline News over at www.macnn.com for today. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Macinstruct articles on Revolution
Nice articles and site, Joe. I did notice one little error in your text. You said the SE-30 had no hard drive. That was incorrect. They all shipped with at least a 40 mb hard drive. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112170 I still have one right here..I could still use it as a POP or SMTP server. Perhaps you're thinking of the original SE, with the hard drive optional. I really couldn't tolerate the disk swapping until they got the hard drives. The architecture stuff you did with HC blows my mind. Hi Everyone, Well, we started publishing articles on Revolution the 15th of last Month as promised. I've received some response from a few on the list, but I am more than eager to see what any of the rest of you think. They aren't super long and I've tried to make them reasonably interesting. So, if you have a little extra time and need some comic relief, take a look. This next weeks Chapter will be in response to whatever you guys have to say. http://www.macinstruct.com/codemojo There are a few other very interesting articles by other contributors that you may want to catch as well. Just click on the Columns button at the top of the page. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Streaming Server on LInux
Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote: I'm talking here about some serious data: 100 plus megabyte movies at 320 X 240 Perhaps you could try breaking down your media into smaller chunks. 100MB seems relatively large for most non-corporate users. We've done that in the past with audio Part 1 Part 2 etc. Our kind of content of those lengths could be easily chapterized in ways that will not seem too fragmented to the users. What would you suggest is a good max target size to use for a single movie? I could go out on a limb and guess maybe 20 to 30MB, but I really can't say. There are a lot variables to answer this: most common connection speed of your audience, sophistication of your audience's systems, and perhaps one large item is the organization of your media. Maybe it lends itself to getting split into 70 parts. On the other hand, maybe you guys don't want to manage 70 movie clips. As you allude to above, you could look at splitting your content into reasonable segments, along lines of chapters/topics/concepts/whatever makes sense. Maybe large chapters get split into 2 parts, with an auto-download occurring after playback of part 1 has completed. The bottom line is, you want to address the 100MB playback issue -- segmenting your content might be a solution. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Macinstruct articles on Revolution
Darn, you're right Stephen. Thanks, though I have one too - that still runs, I haven't had it turned on for years. I guess I was thinking about my MacPlus after I had pumped it up to 512k. So long ago. You know the memory is the second thing to go! Actually, that particular architecture was done with MacDraft, though I did do a number of other stacks in HC; just not so big. You just gave me an idea for a stack to convert that I had not thought about. Thanks, again. Joe Wilkins On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:51 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Nice articles and site, Joe. I did notice one little error in your text. You said the SE-30 had no hard drive. That was incorrect. They all shipped with at least a 40 mb hard drive. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112170 I still have one right here..I could still use it as a POP or SMTP server. Perhaps you're thinking of the original SE, with the hard drive optional. I really couldn't tolerate the disk swapping until they got the hard drives. The architecture stuff you did with HC blows my mind. Hi Everyone, Well, we started publishing articles on Revolution the 15th of last Month as promised. I've received some response from a few on the list, but I am more than eager to see what any of the rest of you think. They aren't super long and I've tried to make them reasonably interesting. So, if you have a little extra time and need some comic relief, take a look. This next weeks Chapter will be in response to whatever you guys have to say. http://www.macinstruct.com/codemojo There are a few other very interesting articles by other contributors that you may want to catch as well. Just click on the Columns button at the top of the page. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
