Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-19 Thread Phil Davis

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Phil Davis wrote:
I was pretending to be an application. So I produced a web page only 
an application could love!  ;o)


Oh just confess. You're a bot, right? ;)

Dang. Ummm... no, REALLY, I'm totally human! Like other fellow humans, I 
have many popular psychoprogram modules including some no longer 
available (except maybe on eBay) like the Motown music recognition 
module - WITH the sing-along option!


That DOES prove humanness, right?
(Man... I have GOT to see if that Evidence and Logic upgrade is still 
available)

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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Chipp Walters
WordPress is much simpler to use than Drupal, and there are many who have
used it as a CMS to build commercial websites. Of course it's not as
all-encompassing nor as hard to learn as Drupal, but you can put up a
website in minutes. Try Googling WordPress and CMS
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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Chipp Walters
http://rubiqube.com/10-great-website-designs-using-wordpress-as-cms/

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 WordPress is much simpler to use than Drupal, and there are many who have
 used it as a CMS to build commercial websites. Of course it's not as
 all-encompassing nor as hard to learn as Drupal, but you can put up a
 website in minutes. Try Googling WordPress and CMS


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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:
 While I don't know anything about RapidWeaver, I do know a bit about the
 company who sells it, SmithMicro. They're an aggregataor of software
 companies in trouble, and they do as little as possible to update the
 programs they purchase.

RapidWeaver is created by Realmac Software and they have a regular
upgrade cycle and a very active user base with plenty of themes and
plugins being developed all the time, as well as great assistance
available on the forums. Realmac is a UK based company, SmithMicro are
their US publishers, but from what I can tell, they have NOT acquired
the company.

While it is a very easy-to-use web site creator with many nice
templates, it also allows insertion of code snippets into pages, so I
see no problem using it to create pages that include rev tags.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Stephen Cox
Drupal has gotten easy to learn. There is also very good training available
at Lullabot (http://www.lullabot.com/). Drupal is easy to install and
maintain. Knowing PHP isn't required but is a major plus (for WordPress
too).

Lullabot is all about learning Drupal. WordPress can't compare to Drupal.
I'm not bashing WordPress. I use it. I use Drupal too.

But comparing WordPress to Drupal is like comparing c++ to html. MTV, HBO.
Amnesty International, Goldman Sacs run on Drupal. Actually, there's a mod
for Drupal that runs WordPress, in Drupal. :)

All this said, if all you want is a quick site then Drupal is way over kill.
Use WordPress. It's very good for what it does.

Also take a look at Squarespace at squarespace.com. Squarespace allows
anyone to create a website. It's that simple (It has one of the best CSS
implementations I've ever seen). You can literately build your site (design,
color - even fonts) all online. With WordPress, you either use a template or
roll up your sleeves and modify the template (not that hard - but if you
don't want to write any code, there you are).

I can't say enough good things about Squarespace. And no, I don't work for
them. But I turned my mother's church onto them.

On 4/19/09 2:28 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 WordPress is much simpler to use than Drupal, and there are many who have
 used it as a CMS to build commercial websites. Of course it's not as
 all-encompassing nor as hard to learn as Drupal, but you can put up a
 website in minutes. Try Googling WordPress and CMS
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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread chris livermore

ditto to Stephen's comment
Drupal is great tool for a variety of purposes, it and Rev are my two  
main programs.

Wordpress has a limited scope i.e. blogs


On 19/04/2009, at 2:45 PM, Stephen Cox wrote:

WordPress is a PHP blogging system. Has a template system for site  
design.
It's well used and respected. And there are many plug-ins. It's open  
source.


Drupal is a PHP framework. You can create any kind of website with it
really. It's referred to as a 'CMS' framework because of huge 3rd  
party
plug-in support. Drupal is used as a backend to everything from  
blogs to

corporate websites. Drupal is also open source.

If you needed to create a non-blog site then take a look at Drupal.  
Keep in
mind there are many web frameworks: like ruby on rails. Django  
(python),

Seaside (Smalltalk), Zope (python), CAKE (PHP)- and many more. You can
probably find a web framework written in whatever language you want.  
And

soon, Transcript will probably be added to the list. ;)


On 4/19/09 12:00 AM, Colin Holgate co...@rcn.com wrote:



On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:



I might suggest people interested in creating their own websites,
check out
WordPress. Free, very easy to use and installs automatically on your
On-Rev
server account



It took a couple of minutes of research to figure out that to install
WordPress on on-rev you would use Fantastico. In the Fantastico page
it lists WordPress as being a blog, so is it up to be a complete site
management? Might Drupal be a better choice?

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Re: Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-19 Thread Peter Alcibiades

If its Mac/Unix/Linux, you will be able to go out to shell, and then call a
script to use the mail command.  At least, I think you can call BASH on Mac,
don't know how exactly.  

Detailed instructions on the mail command and howto with attachments here:

http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/mailattachments.html

Awk and the shell, oh dear.  I feel a bit like an old retired engineering
guy who every now and again, says, you know, there's a lot to be said for
steam  But, they do work.

Peter


BILL HUMPHREY wrote:
 
 Since
 
 *Syntax: revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]*
 
 
 does not allow for attaching a file how do you do that?
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Re: Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-19 Thread Horst

Holá Bill,

Google for BLAT262, download, read the docs, install and enjoy. Works
perfect for me (under Windows)

kind regards

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Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Jim Lambert wrote:
 Switching the DNS setting so that a site can live on different servers
 is straightforward.
 But what happens with mailservers if I want to move a domain that also
 has email from one ISP to another? Say, to on-rev?
 
 Jim Lambert
 

on-rev hosting includes mail hosting of course, and it would be fine for
many purposes.

But it might be a problem if you want to host a domain's website at
on-rev, while hosting email elsewhere (perhaps because there is an
established in-house mail server for instance).

on-rev uses cpanel to control your hosted domains, and while I've only
had a couple of days to look it over and I'm not yet familiar with it,
it seems to insist that you delegate the nameservers to on-rev before it
will let you add a domain, but at the same time it allows no access to
individual DNS records for the domain. So if you were used to a set-up
where web hosting and mail hosting are run in separate places (as you
seem to be asking about), by controlling the individual DNS records
yourself, it might not be feasible to use on-rev, although you could ask
the management to make an exception for you probably.

I hope to be corrected if anyone knows better.

However, if you were happy to move both web and mail hosting to on-rev,
you should be able to do that, providing you don't mind setting it up
from scratch, and you don't have any configuration which isn't supported
by the cpanel setup.

There is also, as far as I can tell, no way to give a customer access to
manage their own email. That's fine for some customers, but I have
several customers who wouldn't accept that situation as they have quite
frequent email changes to numerous addresses. Also, to be honest, I
personally have better things to do with my time than manage their email
forwarding and autoresponders and so on for them on a daily basis.

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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Ian Wood
Ditto again. I currently have four Drupal-based sites and will be  
starting to move copies of them onto On-Rev when I have time, and  
seeing how Drupal and On-Rev get on with each other...


Ian


On 19 Apr 2009, at 08:48, chris livermore wrote:


ditto to Stephen's comment
Drupal is great tool for a variety of purposes, it and Rev are my  
two main programs.


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Re: Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-19 Thread william humphrey
Thanks. So it looks like there is a different solution for Mac then for
Windows. I'm on Mac so I guess I'll be using the steam engine...

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Horst balearenin...@gmx.net wrote:


 Holá Bill,

 Google for BLAT262, download, read the docs, install and enjoy. Works
 perfect for me (under Windows)

 kind regards

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  *Syntax: revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]*
 
 
  does not allow for attaching a file how do you do that?
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Re: Sending Email with attachment

2009-04-19 Thread william humphrey
I'm in Mac OS.  Since the solutions are different for Mac and Windows maybe
that is why RevMail doesn't allow to send mail with attachments.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Mark Stuart mfstu...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi William,
 What platform are you aiming this feature to work on?
 If Windows, I have a VBScript that will allow an attachment.
 It launches the email client to populates all the relevant fields, and the
 attachment field.

 Let me know.

 Regards,
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RE: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 
  I might suggest people interested in creating their own websites, 
  check out WordPress. Free, very easy to use and installs 
 automatically 
  on your On-Rev server account
 
 
 It took a couple of minutes of research to figure out that to 
 install WordPress on on-rev you would use Fantastico. In the 
 Fantastico page it lists WordPress as being a blog, so is it 
 up to be a complete site management? Might Drupal be a better choice?

I have used Joomla for many years now, and its really polished and there are
huge numbers of add-ons and extensions out there for it.

That being said, Ive also used Wordpress for several years and it's a lot
more than just a simple blogging tool. Add-ons and very polished templates
make it especially good if you have a single focus to your site - that could
be a blog, but it could also be a general news site, or even a one product
only site.

We used Joomla for the new Paradigma Software site
(http://www.valentina-db.com), but use Wordpress for our new developer's
blog.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
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hilite 'sticking' in certain option menus and fields

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Blackman
Hi List,

In my stack I have an option menu button, on which the user can
right-click to popup a context menu.

As of version 3 and 3.5 of Rev on XP, when the popup menu appears, the
option menu gets hilited and remains so (ie the background goes dark
blue). This doesnt happen in version 2.9.  The hilite will only toggle
back to off if I do another popup operation.  Clicking somewhere to
remove focus doesn't do the trick.

I found that changing the 'HiliteFill' property of the option menu to
false prevents this happening, OR waiting for the mouse button to be
released before popping up the popup button also prevents it.

But this doesn't happen with all option menu buttons. My option menu
button is generated by script.  If I create a button in the IDE by
dragging from the tools pallet I don't get the same behaviour.

As a related issue I am having problems with some other option menu
buttons and fields created by script in a group . The fields get their
text selected when I tab into them and the hilite remains when you
click outside the group. I think this is caused by having the autotab
of the fields set to true - but why should that cause the fields to
hilite differently ? The menu buttons in the same group  also remains
hilited when I select a choice, which doesn't seem right.

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether these behaviours are correct ?

thanks
Martin
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Re: Script Editor: (Object: cant set script while it is executing)

2009-04-19 Thread Paul Gabel

On Apr 18, 2009, at 3:17 PM, David Bovill wrote:

Not to up on the RevIDe script editor - keep getting this message,  
but can;t
find which script is executing and command-period is doing nothing.   
Seems

no way out save for force quitting? Any tricks?


I get this error message all the time, too, but only on a substack,  
never on the mainstack. I have to then close the substack before I can  
compile the substack script.


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Re-4: [OT] on-rev urls

2009-04-19 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

i have already moved a domain to on-rev and left email on the old mailserver.

You have to do the following.

1.Ask your ISP/Registrar to change nameserver for your domain to ns1.on-rev. 
and ns2.on-rev.
2. After nameserver change, add your domain to on-rev
3. Send an email to supp...@on-rev.com or on-...@runrev.com and ask them to 
change the mx records
   of your domain. So they point to your old mailserver.

That´s it.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Matthias Rebbe





 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls (19-Apr-2009 11:09)
From:Martin Baxter mb.use...@harbourhosting.co.uk
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 Jim Lambert wrote:
  Switching the DNS setting so that a site can live on different servers
  is straightforward.
  But what happens with mailservers if I want to move a domain that also
  has email from one ISP to another? Say, to on-rev?
  
  Jim Lambert
  
 
 on-rev hosting includes mail hosting of course, and it would be fine for
 many purposes.
 
 But it might be a problem if you want to host a domain's website at
 on-rev, while hosting email elsewhere (perhaps because there is an
 established in-house mail server for instance).
 
 on-rev uses cpanel to control your hosted domains, and while I've only
 had a couple of days to look it over and I'm not yet familiar with it,
 it seems to insist that you delegate the nameservers to on-rev before it
 will let you add a domain, but at the same time it allows no access to
 individual DNS records for the domain. So if you were used to a set-up
 where web hosting and mail hosting are run in separate places (as you
 seem to be asking about), by controlling the individual DNS records
 yourself, it might not be feasible to use on-rev, although you could ask
 the management to make an exception for you probably.
 
 I hope to be corrected if anyone knows better.
 
 However, if you were happy to move both web and mail hosting to on-rev,
 you should be able to do that, providing you don't mind setting it up
 from scratch, and you don't have any configuration which isn't supported
 by the cpanel setup.
 
 There is also, as far as I can tell, no way to give a customer access to
 manage their own email. That's fine for some customers, but I have
 several customers who wouldn't accept that situation as they have quite
 frequent email changes to numerous addresses. Also, to be honest, I
 personally have better things to do with my time than manage their email
 forwarding and autoresponders and so on for them on a daily basis.
 
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UTF8 and hand crafting styles

2009-04-19 Thread David Bovill
I mainly work with htmltext - and add the styling direct to the chunks
needed with scripts - like b... /b, font colours, links etc So how
should I work with UTF8 that I get from a web service?

   1. Turn the utf8 to htmltext and then format as usual
   2. Figure out how to insert small utf16 equivalents for formatting

What are the implications of converting to htmltext - I 'guess it's a
loss-less conversion?
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Re: UTF8 and hand crafting styles

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi David,

Do you think that simple conversion to UTF16 won't work?

put uniencode(myUTF8Var,UTF8) into myUTF16Var
set the unicodeText of fld x to myUTF16Var

Once you have done this, you could retrieve and adjust the htmlText.

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On 19 apr 2009, at 22:31, David Bovill wrote:


I mainly work with htmltext - and add the styling direct to the chunks
needed with scripts - like b... /b, font colours, links etc So  
how

should I work with UTF8 that I get from a web service?

  1. Turn the utf8 to htmltext and then format as usual
  2. Figure out how to insert small utf16 equivalents for formatting

What are the implications of converting to htmltext - I 'guess it's a
loss-less conversion?
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Re: UTF8 and hand crafting styles

2009-04-19 Thread David Bovill
2009/4/19 Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com

 Hi David,

 Do you think that simple conversion to UTF16 won't work?

 put uniencode(myUTF8Var,UTF8) into myUTF16Var
 set the unicodeText of fld x to myUTF16Var

 Once you have done this, you could retrieve and adjust the htmlText.


yeah - that's what I'm thinking... its just that this would involve putting
the text into the field - retrieving it as htmltxt - then manipulating it
and setting the htmltext - so my two questions are:

   1. is it any harder to add teh formatting direct to the utf/8 or utf16 as
   comared to doig the same to htmltext?
   2. Is anything at all lost in converting to htmltext and then back to
   UTF16?
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Re: UTF8 and hand crafting styles

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi David,

As far as I know, a unicode stream doesn't contain any formatting data  
at all. That means that formatting unicode directly text is impossible.


I don't think that anything is actually lost when converting unicode  
text from and to htmlText, but there may be a few bugs. There are a  
few bugs in conversion to RTF text, with regard to the size of the  
text and colours (although the colours bug may have been fixed  
already). I can imagine that there are similar bugs in the conversion  
to and from htmlText.


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On 19 apr 2009, at 22:50, David Bovill wrote:


2009/4/19 Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com

yeah - that's what I'm thinking... its just that this would involve  
putting
the text into the field - retrieving it as htmltxt - then  
manipulating it

and setting the htmltext - so my two questions are:

  1. is it any harder to add teh formatting direct to the utf/8 or  
utf16 as

  comared to doig the same to htmltext?
  2. Is anything at all lost in converting to htmltext and then back  
to

  UTF16?


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OT: Short Run DVD Production

2009-04-19 Thread Sivakatirswami

way off topic,

but if anyone knows of someone who does short run DVD production (20-50 
copies + print color label) at reasonable rates, can you send me 
contact/URL off list? 

We use CDMan for our long runs (200+) but occasionally we want to do 
short runs and still get a low unit cost. I'm trying to find someone who 
can compete with our in-house Bravo machine on  50 cps -- unit cost 
about $1.70 if you don't count staff time. We putting movies on these 
for distribution around the world to key centers.


Sivakatirswami

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on-rev example: dynamic table (was: 'globals.cgi' conversion)

2009-04-19 Thread Ian Wood


On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote:


I was expecting something like a beautiful web page ;--))


This isn't much more beautiful, but it's less like a system readout. ;-)

http://ijw.on-rev.com/form1.irev

Put in two numbers and hit 'Submit' to see a 'times table'-like table  
appear. Nothing all that special and I'm sure it could also be done in  
PHP, but it would have taken me longer to remember how to do a repeat  
in PHP than the whole thing did via rev/transcript.


The Rev code looks like this:

?rev
put table cellpadding='2'
repeat with x = 1 to $_POST[x]
put tr
repeat with y= 1 to $_POST[y]
put td  (x * y)  /td
end repeat
put /tr
end repeat
put /table
?

Which is nice and familiar.  Given the power of Transcript/Rev, it  
would be easy to add in some sophisticated error-checking code for  
letters instead of numbers, and instead put a sensible error message  
if someone puts in garbage.


Ian
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Re: on-rev example: dynamic table (was: 'globals.cgi' conversion)

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Smith
I've finally taken the plunge and worked up a little css and  
javascript to do a bit of ajax stuff. It's fairly poor, but it's here:


http://marksmith.on-rev.com/mashash/mashash.html

css is great! javascript so far is ok but a bit hard to love - maybe  
I'll warm to it as I progress...



Best,

Mark

On 19 Apr 2009, at 23:03, Ian Wood wrote:



On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote:


I was expecting something like a beautiful web page ;--))


This isn't much more beautiful, but it's less like a system  
readout. ;-)


http://ijw.on-rev.com/form1.irev

Put in two numbers and hit 'Submit' to see a 'times table'-like  
table appear. Nothing all that special and I'm sure it could also  
be done in PHP, but it would have taken me longer to remember how  
to do a repeat in PHP than the whole thing did via rev/transcript.


The Rev code looks like this:

?rev
put table cellpadding='2'
repeat with x = 1 to $_POST[x]
put tr
repeat with y= 1 to $_POST[y]
put td  (x * y)  /td
end repeat
put /tr
end repeat
put /table
?

Which is nice and familiar.  Given the power of Transcript/Rev, it  
would be easy to add in some sophisticated error-checking code for  
letters instead of numbers, and instead put a sensible error  
message if someone puts in garbage.


Ian
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Re: on-rev example: dynamic table (was: 'globals.cgi' conversion)

2009-04-19 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote:


 Put in two numbers and hit 'Submit' to see a 'times table'-like table
 appear.


I didn't read this bit, just went to your link first, saw the two LARGE
fields so entered two REALLY LARGE numbers. I'm sorry but I may have used
your lifetime's worth of bandwidth as it created the world's largest times
table ;-((

Maybe you want to include a line Enter two numbers less than 100 above
those fields so others don't waste your next lifetime of bandwidth ;-)

Really sorry about the bandwidth but I did learn from your example ;-)
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Re: RapidWeaver

2009-04-19 Thread Chipp Walters
Thanks for pointing that out Sarah.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote:


 RapidWeaver is created by Realmac Software and they have a regular
 upgrade cycle and a very active user base with plenty of themes and
 plugins being developed all the time, as well as great assistance
 available on the forums. Realmac is a UK based company, SmithMicro are
 their US publishers, but from what I can tell, they have NOT acquired
 the company.

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Re: OT: Short Run DVD Production

2009-04-19 Thread stephen barncard
Swami, check out Amazon's publishing on demand.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=15015781

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/4/19 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org

 way off topic,

 but if anyone knows of someone who does short run DVD production (20-50
 copies + print color label) at reasonable rates, can you send me contact/URL
 off list?
 We use CDMan for our long runs (200+) but occasionally we want to do short
 runs and still get a low unit cost. I'm trying to find someone who can
 compete with our in-house Bravo machine on  50 cps -- unit cost about $1.70
 if you don't count staff time. We putting movies on these for distribution
 around the world to key centers.

 Sivakatirswami

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