RE: Rotating images

[Randall Reetz]

How about quicktime?  Is a supercard project.  As soon as i am back at my 
computer.  Also, it was a quick proof of concept one day project.

-Original Message-
From: "Jim Bufalini" 
To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
Sent: 4/24/2009 9:36 PM
Subject: RE: Rotating images


Randall Reetz wrote:
 
> Ok, i have written such code... And it works suprisigly well without
> image warping (just manipulating the shape of the bounding polygons
> holding the images).

I for one would love to see it, even if the code is in a locked stack.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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RE: Rotating images

[Jim Bufalini]

Randall Reetz wrote:
 
> Ok, i have written such code... And it works suprisigly well without
> image warping (just manipulating the shape of the bounding polygons
> holding the images).

I for one would love to see it, even if the code is in a locked stack.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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RE: Rotating images

[Randall Reetz]

Ok, i have written such code... And it works suprisigly well without image 
warping (just manipulating the shape of the bounding polygons holding the 
images).

-Original Message-
From: "Colin Holgate" 
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 4/24/2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Rotating images


On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:

> What is "coverflow"?

On Mac OS 10.5 it's one of the ways of viewing files, where you get a  
stack of preview images to thumb through. It's also used in iTunes and  
on iPods. Much like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NJNiIWxdE


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[ANN] First On-Rev based CMS and Blog system available.

[Eddie]

I would recommend 7-ZIP (http://www.7-zip.org/) on the Windows platform.

Supported formats:

   * Packing / unpacking: 7z, ZIP, GZIP, BZIP2 and TAR
   * Unpacking only: ARJ, CAB, CHM, CPIO, DEB, DMG, HFS, ISO, LZH,
 LZMA, MSI, NSIS, RAR, RPM, UDF, WIM, XAR and Z.


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htmlText and the templateField

[Shao Sean]

Any reason this code does not work?

set the htmltext of the templateField to "oink"
put the htmltext of the templateField
-- puts 

I tried Rev 2.0 up to 3.5 and it was a no go.
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Re: Rotating images

[Colin Holgate]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:


What is "coverflow"?


On Mac OS 10.5 it's one of the ways of viewing files, where you get a  
stack of preview images to thumb through. It's also used in iTunes and  
on iPods. Much like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NJNiIWxdE


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RE: Rotating images

[Randall Reetz]

What is "coverflow"?

-Original Message-
From: "Scott Rossi" 
To: "Revolution Mail List" 
Sent: 4/24/2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Rotating images

Recently, Randall Reetz wrote:

> Wow, that is easy!
> How about warping an image by repositioning its four corners?  Lets say an
> image is in a polygon with four points (as coordinate pairs).  Can you change
> the posible of those points to cause that image to be thusly warped, twisted,
> skewed, or tipped back in space (three point verticies)?

Nope.  None of those.

If we DID have that ability, we'd all be creating coverflow simulations in
our stacks, but alas, we can't do anything natively that irregularly
distorts an image.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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Re: Rotating images

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Randall Reetz wrote:

> Wow, that is easy!
> How about warping an image by repositioning its four corners?  Lets say an
> image is in a polygon with four points (as coordinate pairs).  Can you change
> the posible of those points to cause that image to be thusly warped, twisted,
> skewed, or tipped back in space (three point verticies)?

Nope.  None of those.

If we DID have that ability, we'd all be creating coverflow simulations in
our stacks, but alas, we can't do anything natively that irregularly
distorts an image.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Andre Garzia]

also shell("whoami") gives you the name of the logged user.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Adrian Williams 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
> > MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf
> >
> > But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For
> example:
> > MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf
> >
> > How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it in a
> > variable in the pathname?
>
> $USER gives you the name of the current user.
> However specialFolderPath() might provide the exact folder path you
> need. As well as the docs, check out Ken Ray's list of usable codes
> for this: 
>
> BTW, in OS X & Rev, you don't need to include the MacHD part in your
> file path. /Users/username/Library is the way such folders are
> specified.
>
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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RE: Rotating images

[Randall Reetz]

Wow, that is easy!
How about warping an image by repositioning its four corners?  Lets say an 
image is in a polygon with four points (as coordinate pairs).  Can you change 
the posible of those points to cause that image to be thusly warped, twisted, 
skewed, or tipped back in space (three point verticies)?  Randall

-Original Message-
From: "Scott Rossi" 
To: "Revolution Mail List" 
Sent: 4/24/2009 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Rotating images

Recently, Randall Reetz wrote:

> Can one rotate images by degree or fraction of degree?

You should be able to rotate an image simply by using:

  set the angle of img "myCoolImage" to 45

The docs say the numeric value is an integer so like most position-based
things in Rev you can only use whole numbers, no fractions.  Until Rev gets
subpixel positioning, we won't be able to accomplish fine positioning of
graphics and images.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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Re: Rotating images

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Randall Reetz wrote:

> Can one rotate images by degree or fraction of degree?

You should be able to rotate an image simply by using:

  set the angle of img "myCoolImage" to 45

The docs say the numeric value is an integer so like most position-based
things in Rev you can only use whole numbers, no fractions.  Until Rev gets
subpixel positioning, we won't be able to accomplish fine positioning of
graphics and images.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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Re: Moving an existing domain to on-rev [was [OT] Opinions about On-Rev]

[Sarah Reichelt]

Thanks Eddie. I'll get my web site all set up, then take the plunge :-)

Sarah


On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Eddie
 wrote:
> Yes, it works very well.  I just moved one of my domains over (the least
> risky one since I was a little nervous) in less than 15 minutes and emails
> are delivered to my default inbox (I have not created any others yet).
>
> Eddie
>
>> What I am wondering is if anyone has got email working for another domain
>> and does it work well?  If I transfer troz.net to on-rev, will all the
>> @troz.net emails come through on-rev? I have a mail server on my home
>> network using fetchmail to get all the emails and distribute them to the
>> family.  How long can I expect it to take before they all come through and I
>> can stop checking my old hoster?
>
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Moving an existing domain to on-rev [was [OT] Opinions about On-Rev]

[Eddie]

Yes, it works very well.  I just moved one of my domains over (the least 
risky one since I was a little nervous) in less than 15 minutes and 
emails are delivered to my default inbox (I have not created any others 
yet).


Eddie

What I am wondering is if anyone has got email working for another domain and does it work well?  If I transfer troz.net 
to on-rev, will all the @troz.net emails come through on-rev? I have a mail server on my home network using fetchmail to 
get all the emails and distribute them to the family.  How long can I expect it to take before they all come through 
and I can stop checking my old hoster?



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Rotating images

[Randall Reetz]

Can one rotate images by degree or fraction of degree?  In supercard, one was  
able to do this using quad controls (that were hopelessly complex and fragile 
to manipulate via attribute control and a suite of confusingly interdependent 
functions and commands.

-Original Message-
From: "Shao Sean" 
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: 4/24/2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: sending HTML mail

Let me dig out my old code that creates MIME email
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Re: sending HTML mail

[mfstuart]

Hi Sadhu,
Sorry about that chief :)
There's many ways to get that vbscript into your Rev stack to use.

1) Save the vbscript as a txt file.
a. Read in the txt file with: put URL ("file:" & thetxtFileName) into tVBS
b. Use tVBS in your script

2) While developing your application, set the vbscript into a custom
property of an object, say the stack or card. Search the forum for custom
property, on how to do this.
a. go to step 1b.

Searching the forum using "vbscript", you'll find alot of examples of others
responses.
Here's a start:
http://www.nabble.com/RR-2.9.0-dp-2---VBscript-to14183565.html#a14183565
http://www.nabble.com/RunRev-2.9-Scripting-Question-to15635296.html#a15635296

Also, search RunRev Dictionary for "do". Half way down, there's a do command
as "vbscript".

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Sadhu Nadesan wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi Sadhu,
>> If you are on Windows, here's a VBScript that allows HTML body content:
>>   
> Yo Mark,
> 
> Thank you!  That is kind of you but, pardon my ignorance, I have no idea 
> what to do with it?  Can you use VB script in a Rev stack somehow?  I am 
> not familiar with VB or VB script.
> 
> I'm trying to generate an email as part of a Rev application.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sadhu
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Re: sending HTML mail

[Shao Sean]

Let me dig out my old code that creates MIME email
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Re: sending HTML mail

[Sadhu Nadesan]

Hi Sadhu,
If you are on Windows, here's a VBScript that allows HTML body content:
  

Yo Mark,

Thank you!  That is kind of you but, pardon my ignorance, I have no idea 
what to do with it?  Can you use VB script in a Rev stack somehow?  I am 
not familiar with VB or VB script.


I'm trying to generate an email as part of a Rev application.

Cheers,
Sadhu
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Re: sending HTML mail

[mfstuart]

Hi Sadhu,
If you are on Windows, here's a VBScript that allows HTML body content:

=
Dim objOutl
Dim strHTML
Set objOutl = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set objMailItem = objOutl.CreateItem(olMailItem)

strHTML = ""
strHTML = strHTML & ""
strHTML = strHTML & ""
strHTML = strHTML & "NEW MESSAGE"
strHTML = strHTML & ""
strHTML = strHTML & "This is a test message"
strHTML = strHTML & ""
strHTML = strHTML & ""

'comment the next line if you do not want to see the outlook window
objMailItem.Display
strEmailAddr  = "m...@mycompany.com"
objMailItem.Recipients.Add strEmailAddr
objMailItem.Subject = "Hi"
objMailItem.HTMLBody = strHTML
'objMailItem.Attachments.Add "file.xml"
'objMailItem.Send
Set objMailItem = nothing
Set objOutl = nothing
=

HTH you,
Mark Stuart



Sadhu Nadesan wrote:
> 
> Sarah, Mikey, or anyone?
> 
> Say, I know this question gets asked a lot.  I have been searching the 
> mailing list, downloading stacks, etc., but haven't found the exact 
> answer so pardon me for asking it again!  The closest thing was Mikey's 
> post. (below)
> 
> The question is, how to send an HTML email message.  Or rather, a nicely 
> formatted message. Same thing I guess.   I think the revMail command is 
> awesome, but, the plain text message body looks kinda ugly for the 
> message I have in mind, and, although I could write a CGI script and 
> work out all the plumbing (actually I have done this before, a la 
> Sivakatirswami), I'd rather find a stack like Sarah's that is already 
> done and talks directly to the mail server without the CGI piece.  Am I 
> lazy, well, ,maybe so, I just don't want to reinvent the wheel when it's 
> been done. Plug and go!  I have enough plumbing to create as it is.
> 
> I am pretty hopeful someone has modified Sarah's stack or has something 
> ready to go that will send HTML mail and can be grafted onto one's rev 
> app.  Yes??  Are you willing to share, whoever you are?  Fingers 
> crossed, and, Mahalo!
> 
> Sadhu
> 
> ps, the post below was good but refers to stuff I didn't find yet, eg,  
> "as previously suggested' etc.  I can keep looking though.
>> From: Mikey > >
>> Subject: Re: HTML SMTP Library 
>> 
>> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user 
>> 
>> Date: 2008-09-03 00:45:52 GMT (33 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours and 21 
>> minutes ago)
>> I've got other things that I have to do tonight, so I can't give you
>> the complete cookbook, but here is the outline.
>> 1) Download one of the following stacks:
>>  a) http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altEmailHarness.rev
>>  b) http://www.troz.net/Rev/libraries/*SMTP**library*.rev.gz
>> 
>> 2) After looking through the *SMTP* *Library* Demo (the second one), and
>> clicking on the *Library* button, I got into Sarah's *SMTP* *library*. 
>> I'm
>> sure this works just as well with the other, but as I said, I've got
>> other pressing things to do tonight.  However, you should be able to
>> figure it out after this.
>> 3) Search for "Content-Type".  Change it as I've previously suggested.
>> 4) Follow my formatting suggestions for the body.
>> 5) Send *HTML*-formatted emails without having to embed the *HTML* in an
>> attachment.
>>   
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revMail bug

[Sadhu Nadesan]

I must regretfully withdraw my comment about revMail being "awesome" - 
it would be if it didn't fail on messages above 1700 characters.  I 
filed a bug report.  (7995)  I still love the idea that you can spawn a 
mail message with one line of code.


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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Adrian Williams  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
> MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf
>
> But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For example:
> MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf
>
> How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it in a
> variable in the pathname?

$USER gives you the name of the current user.
However specialFolderPath() might provide the exact folder path you
need. As well as the docs, check out Ken Ray's list of usable codes
for this: 

BTW, in OS X & Rev, you don't need to include the MacHD part in your
file path. /Users/username/Library is the way such folders are
specified.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: sending HTML mail

[Sadhu Nadesan]

Andre,

Thank you, I agree with what you say.  I understand.  When time permits 
I will study that page, which will take some study.  It's nitty gritty 
tech details, a good reference.   I am sure I could figure out what to 
do, and do it, given the time.


But let me say again what I am hoping to find, which is the job already 
done, so to save that time.


By the way, the audience for the email message is 2 people and I know 
exactly what environment they have, so it's not a worry in this 
particular application to be sure there is a text part. But I do 
appreciate your response.


Here goes:

Context:  Sarah has a cool stack where you type in a mail server, and 
recipient a text message and so forth, click a button, and it sends an 
email.  Voila!  Thank you Sarah!


Objective:  modify this stack so you can populate the message body field 
with HTML instead of plain text, and the stack sends an HTML message.


It sounded like Mikey had done that already, and he was advising someone 
else on how to do it.  Has anyone done it?  Can they share?  Maybe it's 
just a matter of changing the content type somewhere in her code, or 
something like that.  Just HTML is fine, no attachments etc.


Thank you in advance,
Sadhu

---


Message: 24
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:22:34 -0300
From: Andre Garzia 
Subject: Re: sending HTML mail
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID:
<7c87a2a10904241222j7d4f7a91rdf447b58394e5...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Aloha Sadhunathan,

You need to put a mime enclosure in the body of the email. This mime
enclosure will divide your email into a plain text part and an html part, so
that clients with no html features may display your message. You'll need to
craft that yourself but it is fairly easy.

Check this page, it explains things very well

http://www.eveandersson.com/arsdigita/asj/mime/

Always opt for generating multipart messages with both plain text and HTML
parts, if you just generate HTML, you might not reach all of your desired
public. Also take notice that the amount of HTML supported by each mail
client varies a lot.

Om Shanti
andre
  

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Re: [OT] Shockwave on Linux

[Ian Wood]

Are you sure that they were Shockwave files (usually .dcr), not  
regular Flash files ( usually .swf)?


As far as I know there's no way short of Crossover/Wine etc. to view  
actual Shockwave files on Linux.


Ian

On 24 Apr 2009, at 21:17, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

So, searched all over the internet for a shockwave player for Linux,  
and in the words of

Wikipedia:
   "Unlike Flash, the Shockwave browser plugin is not  
available for Linux or Solaris
 despite vocal lobbying efforts. However, the  
Shockwave Player can be installed
 on Linux with CrossOver or by running a Windows  
version of a supported browser

in Wine (with varying degrees of success)."


[...]
installed the first (as am only interested in playing a few EFL  
content shockwave files on

the Disk-drives of my PCs) and it worked PERFECTLY.

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[OT] Shockwave on Linux

[Richmond Mathewson]

So, searched all over the internet for a shockwave player for Linux, and 
in the words of

Wikipedia:
"Unlike Flash, the Shockwave browser plugin is not 
available for Linux or Solaris
  despite vocal lobbying efforts. However, the 
Shockwave Player can be installed
  on Linux with CrossOver or by running a Windows 
version of a supported browser

 in Wine (with varying degrees of success)."

Which sounded really heavy and not at all suitable for my Pentium IIIs. 
As well as involving too

much hard work on my part :)

The Ubuntu Community documentation was similarly negative.

Updated my apt-get cache on my Pentium 4 and typed 'sudo apt-cache 
search swf' and,

rather surprisingly got:

 swfdec-gnome - Tools to play SWF files (Macromedia Flash) on GNOME
 swfdec-mozilla - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash)

installed the first (as am only interested in playing a few EFL content 
shockwave files on

the Disk-drives of my PCs) and it worked PERFECTLY.

And the lesson is . . . keep digging :)

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: Sound sources on Mac

[BNig]

Hi Stephen,

for applescript that gets a little ugly since you have to script the System
Preferences GUI via System Events, since System Preferences are not directly
scriptable. Scripting the GUI is always a bit shaky since the gui can change
with every system upgrade/version. And it is dependent on the system
language, so you can not expect your version for an english system to work
on a french system.

Enabling access for assistive devices checked in the Universal Access pane
of System Preferences is a prerequisite for GUI scripting to work. 

http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=14034
http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=16922

it is basically everthing in these 2 threads

regards
Bernd


Stephen Barncard-4 wrote:
> 
> Is there something I could call that would reveal the current sound
> sources on a Mac?
> Or does one 'just have to know'?
> 
> For instance there doesn't seem to be a code for the audio from my USB
> headset or the digital in on my MacBook Pro.  (yes folks, there really
> is one on the 'combo' input port.)
> 
> Applescript or shell is ok...
> 
> -
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco
> http://barncard.com
> 

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Re: sending HTML mail

[Andre Garzia]

Aloha Sadhunathan,

You need to put a mime enclosure in the body of the email. This mime
enclosure will divide your email into a plain text part and an html part, so
that clients with no html features may display your message. You'll need to
craft that yourself but it is fairly easy.

Check this page, it explains things very well

http://www.eveandersson.com/arsdigita/asj/mime/

Always opt for generating multipart messages with both plain text and HTML
parts, if you just generate HTML, you might not reach all of your desired
public. Also take notice that the amount of HTML supported by each mail
client varies a lot.

Om Shanti
andre

:D


On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Sadhu Nadesan wrote:

> Sarah, Mikey, or anyone?
>
> Say, I know this question gets asked a lot.  I have been searching the
> mailing list, downloading stacks, etc., but haven't found the exact answer
> so pardon me for asking it again!  The closest thing was Mikey's post.
> (below)
>
> The question is, how to send an HTML email message.  Or rather, a nicely
> formatted message. Same thing I guess.   I think the revMail command is
> awesome, but, the plain text message body looks kinda ugly for the message I
> have in mind, and, although I could write a CGI script and work out all the
> plumbing (actually I have done this before, a la Sivakatirswami), I'd rather
> find a stack like Sarah's that is already done and talks directly to the
> mail server without the CGI piece.  Am I lazy, well, ,maybe so, I just don't
> want to reinvent the wheel when it's been done. Plug and go!  I have enough
> plumbing to create as it is.
>
> I am pretty hopeful someone has modified Sarah's stack or has something
> ready to go that will send HTML mail and can be grafted onto one's rev app.
>  Yes??  Are you willing to share, whoever you are?  Fingers crossed, and,
> Mahalo!
>
> Sadhu
>
> ps, the post below was good but refers to stuff I didn't find yet, eg,  "as
> previously suggested' etc.  I can keep looking though.
>
>> From: Mikey > http://gmane.org/get-address.php?address=mikeythek%2dRe5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w%40public.gmane.org
>> >>
>> Subject: Re: HTML SMTP Library <
>> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c9b408d8e0809021745n67481f69uf1a6c9e703954a9d%40mail.gmail.com%3e
>> >
>> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user <
>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user>
>> Date: 2008-09-03 00:45:52 GMT (33 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours and 21 minutes
>> ago)
>> I've got other things that I have to do tonight, so I can't give you
>> the complete cookbook, but here is the outline.
>> 1) Download one of the following stacks:
>> a) http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altEmailHarness.rev
>> b) http://www.troz.net/Rev/libraries/*SMTP**library*.rev.gz <
>> http://www.troz.net/Rev/libraries/SMTPlibrary.rev.gz>
>> 2) After looking through the *SMTP* *Library* Demo (the second one), and
>> clicking on the *Library* button, I got into Sarah's *SMTP* *library*.
>>  I'm
>> sure this works just as well with the other, but as I said, I've got
>> other pressing things to do tonight.  However, you should be able to
>> figure it out after this.
>> 3) Search for "Content-Type".  Change it as I've previously suggested.
>> 4) Follow my formatting suggestions for the body.
>> 5) Send *HTML*-formatted emails without having to embed the *HTML* in an
>> attachment.
>>
>>
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sending HTML mail

[Sadhu Nadesan]

Sarah, Mikey, or anyone?

Say, I know this question gets asked a lot.  I have been searching the 
mailing list, downloading stacks, etc., but haven't found the exact 
answer so pardon me for asking it again!  The closest thing was Mikey's 
post. (below)


The question is, how to send an HTML email message.  Or rather, a nicely 
formatted message. Same thing I guess.   I think the revMail command is 
awesome, but, the plain text message body looks kinda ugly for the 
message I have in mind, and, although I could write a CGI script and 
work out all the plumbing (actually I have done this before, a la 
Sivakatirswami), I'd rather find a stack like Sarah's that is already 
done and talks directly to the mail server without the CGI piece.  Am I 
lazy, well, ,maybe so, I just don't want to reinvent the wheel when it's 
been done. Plug and go!  I have enough plumbing to create as it is.


I am pretty hopeful someone has modified Sarah's stack or has something 
ready to go that will send HTML mail and can be grafted onto one's rev 
app.  Yes??  Are you willing to share, whoever you are?  Fingers 
crossed, and, Mahalo!


Sadhu

ps, the post below was good but refers to stuff I didn't find yet, eg,  
"as previously suggested' etc.  I can keep looking though.
From: Mikey >
Subject: Re: HTML SMTP Library 

Newsgroups: gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user 

Date: 2008-09-03 00:45:52 GMT (33 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours and 21 
minutes ago)

I've got other things that I have to do tonight, so I can't give you
the complete cookbook, but here is the outline.
1) Download one of the following stacks:
 a) http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altEmailHarness.rev
 b) http://www.troz.net/Rev/libraries/*SMTP**library*.rev.gz 

2) After looking through the *SMTP* *Library* Demo (the second one), and
clicking on the *Library* button, I got into Sarah's *SMTP* *library*.  I'm
sure this works just as well with the other, but as I said, I've got
other pressing things to do tonight.  However, you should be able to
figure it out after this.
3) Search for "Content-Type".  Change it as I've previously suggested.
4) Follow my formatting suggestions for the body.
5) Send *HTML*-formatted emails without having to embed the *HTML* in an 
attachment.
  


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Re: Datagrids with sharedtext = "False"?

[Devin Asay]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:29 AM, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote:

Here's a second question were there any other new features added  
when v3.5

Studio for the Mac was released? If so is there a list somewhere?


Hello Joe,

You can get complete list of the changes to both the Revolution engine  
and the IDE by going to the folder where the Revolution app is  
installed and reading the files "Engine Change Log.txt" and "IDE  
Change Lot.txt". On my Mac OS X system it's at /Applications/ 
Revolution Studio/3.5.0-gm-1. Windows would be something like  C: 
\Program Files\Revolution Studio\3.5.0-gm-1




Thanks again for everyone's time. I appreciate that the group is  
available

for support like this.



I'm glad you find it useful.

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: dgText [true] question?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:13 PM, David Bovill wrote:


Yes - that's the issue. So now I'm trying to name the columns:

set the uProps ["columns"] of the rev_DataGrid of me to columnNames


Use dgProps here.

works, but Im not clear on the internal workings, so some things go  
wrong.
Fo instance trying to rename a column by script "clears" the column  
data -
presumably because the link to the dgDataA is no longer valid - all  
I'd have
to do is rename the keys in the dgDataA - or are their built ins for  
this?


In the current version of the data grid setting the columns property  
doesn't map the previous columns to the new columns. That is being  
considered though. o rename a column use:


set the dgColumnName[OLD_NAME] of group "Data Grid" to NEW_NAME

You can read up on column props here:




Scroll down to the Column Properties section.

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Re: dgText [true] question?

[David Bovill]

2009/4/24 Trevor DeVore 

> Do the columns in your header exist in the table? If you pass in true the
> data grid will not try to create the columns. It assumes the columns are
> created already.


Yes - that's the issue. So now I'm trying to name the columns:

set the uProps ["columns"] of the rev_DataGrid of me to columnNames

works, but Im not clear on the internal workings, so some things go wrong.
Fo instance trying to rename a column by script "clears" the column data -
presumably because the link to the dgDataA is no longer valid - all I'd have
to do is rename the keys in the dgDataA - or are their built ins for this?
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[andre]

Cool aint it. If I change my version here, then, versions will be  
different and you'll see a note and be given the option to update.


Cheers
André

Enviado de meu iPhone

Em 24/04/2009, às 15:06, -= JB =-  escreveu:


I downloaded and installed it and it says I have the right version.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Friends,

I think I've broken yet another milestone. JB, Matthias and others  
that
download the file, please check again. I've just added code that  
that make
the irev file auto-update. It will check against the version on my  
account

and give you the option to auto-update the file, and it works.

The auto-update code is very small, it allows me to patch things,  
and you
there using it on your own servers will see the announcement as  
soon as you

load the page. Quite nice!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Even if you already installed the revolution cgi engine, it is nice  
to check

this code to see how to make auto-updating pages. Very user friendly.

Cheers
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

I downloaded and installed it and it says I have the right version.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Friends,

I think I've broken yet another milestone. JB, Matthias and others  
that
download the file, please check again. I've just added code that  
that make
the irev file auto-update. It will check against the version on my  
account

and give you the option to auto-update the file, and it works.

The auto-update code is very small, it allows me to patch things,  
and you
there using it on your own servers will see the announcement as  
soon as you

load the page. Quite nice!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Even if you already installed the revolution cgi engine, it is nice  
to check

this code to see how to make auto-updating pages. Very user friendly.

Cheers
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Friends,

I think I've broken yet another milestone. JB, Matthias and others that
download the file, please check again. I've just added code that that make
the irev file auto-update. It will check against the version on my account
and give you the option to auto-update the file, and it works.

The auto-update code is very small, it allows me to patch things, and you
there using it on your own servers will see the announcement as soon as you
load the page. Quite nice!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Even if you already installed the revolution cgi engine, it is nice to check
this code to see how to make auto-updating pages. Very user friendly.

Cheers
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Re: Datagrids with sharedtext = "False"?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 1:29 PM, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote:

So I now know how to load my datagrid. The problem is that I want to  
have
different data in that grid on different cards of the same stack.  
Apparently
I can't set the sharedText of a datagrid to false. Am I missing  
something

here?

Here's a second question were there any other new features added  
when v3.5

Studio for the Mac was released? If so is there a list somewhere?

Thanks again for everyone's time. I appreciate that the group is  
available

for support like this.


Hi Joe,

If you want to have different data on each card (I assume you are  
sharing the data grid across cards) then you would need to:


a) Load the data into the data grid on open card each time a card opens.
b) Create separate data grids for each card.

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Re: Re-2: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Matthias,

there is a new version with version check and auto updating of the
installation tool. Can you check it out please?

Thanks
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Friends,

I think I've broken yet another milestone. JB, Matthias and others that
download the file, please check again. I've just added code that that make
the irev file auto-update. It will check against the version on my account
and give you the option to auto-update the file, and it works.

The auto-update code is very small, it allows me to patch things, and you
there using it on your own servers will see the announcement as soon as you
load the page. Quite nice!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Even if you already installed the revolution cgi engine, it is nice to check
this code to see how to make auto-updating pages. Very user friendly.

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:38 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:

> Thanks to you and Andre again.
>
> The info you provided cleared a lot of things up and is needed even
> though it is installed.
>
> -=>JB<=-
>
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:30 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>  -= JB =- wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again.  The reason I turned it on is in your lesson it told me to
>>> turn something
>>> on in a preference and that was the closest thing I found.  Maybe that
>>> was one of my
>>> problems since I turned that on instead of something else that needed
>>> turned on.
>>>
>>
>> That was for testing on your local machine. If you are only using on-rev,
>> you don't need that. Anyway, you're installed now, which is the important
>> part.
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Sound sources on Mac

[stephen barncard]

Is there something I could call that would reveal the current sound
sources on a Mac?
Or does one 'just have to know'?

For instance there doesn't seem to be a code for the audio from my USB
headset or the digital in on my MacBook Pro.  (yes folks, there really
is one on the 'combo' input port.)

Applescript or shell is ok...

-
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

Thanks to you and Andre again.

The info you provided cleared a lot of things up and is needed even
though it is installed.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:30 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


-= JB =- wrote:
Thanks again.  The reason I turned it on is in your lesson it told  
me to turn something
on in a preference and that was the closest thing I found.  Maybe  
that was one of my
problems since I turned that on instead of something else that  
needed turned on.


That was for testing on your local machine. If you are only using  
on-rev, you don't need that. Anyway, you're installed now, which is  
the important part.


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Re: How do you use the "put" command?

[J. Landman Gay]

dunb...@aol.com wrote:
The HC list always had loads of questions at the most basic level; they 
were fun to answer and they were satisfying in that the place was filled 
with fledgling programmers learning to make their way. Like a playground filled 
with small voices.


The topics on the Rev list are at a much higher level. I don't hear the 
little voices. 


I think about this constantly. There are small voices out there but I 
think they are afraid to post because they feel they may look stupid or 
naive. Whenever someone does post, they always get a friendly and 
immediate answer. The list really does welcome newcomers, but it can be 
intimidating for novices with all the high-level stuff flying around. I 
wish I knew how to encourage them, because it really isn't the case that 
only advanced users should post here.


There have been several instances where novices have written to support 
with very basic questions and I always encourage them to ask on the list 
or forums. Very rarely do I see them do that. I'm not sure how to make 
this list more inviting, but I wish I did.


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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[J. Landman Gay]

-= JB =- wrote:
Thanks again.  The reason I turned it on is in your lesson it told me to 
turn something
on in a preference and that was the closest thing I found.  Maybe that 
was one of my
problems since I turned that on instead of something else that needed 
turned on.


That was for testing on your local machine. If you are only using 
on-rev, you don't need that. Anyway, you're installed now, which is the 
important part.


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Datagrids with sharedtext = "False"?

[LunchnMeets]

Hi Everyone,

So I now know how to load my datagrid. The problem is that I want to have 
different data in that grid on different cards of the same stack. Apparently 
I can't set the sharedText of a datagrid to false. Am I missing something 
here?

Here's a second question were there any other new features added when v3.5 
Studio for the Mac was released? If so is there a list somewhere?

Thanks again for everyone's time. I appreciate that the group is available 
for support like this.

Joe in Orlando


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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

Thanks again.  The reason I turned it on is in your lesson it told me  
to turn something
on in a preference and that was the closest thing I found.  Maybe  
that was one of my
problems since I turned that on instead of something else that needed  
turned on.


-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


-= JB =- wrote:
I have Personal Web Sharing turned on in my system preference  
folder.  Is that

wrong, right or doesn't matter?


It doesn't matter. Your home PC is irrelevant to on-rev. The only  
connection in this case is that you are mounting the remote server  
on your desktop in order to copy files, but there is no interaction  
otherwise between on-rev and your home machine.


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How do you use the "put" command?

[DunbarX]

HC was given away for free with every Mac, thanks to Bill A. and John 
Sculley. The HC list always had loads of questions at the most basic level; 
they 
were fun to answer and they were satisfying in that the place was filled 
with fledgling programmers learning to make their way. Like a playground filled 
with small voices.

The topics on the Rev list are at a much higher level. I don't hear the 
little voices. Though the docs and tutorials do a creditable job, there is 
still no Danny Goodman, and that means there should be lots of these queries 
around.

Is not Rev for the rest of us? Because it is beyond the reach of many 
either in terms of money or in awareness? That it was not handed out on a 
silver 
platter? I worry about this. I don't want another HC catastrophe.

Craig Newman


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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[-= JB =-]

Thanks for all the info, Jacque.  I am using a Mac and just got it  
installed
with a file from Andre.  The information is still very useful and  
thanks again.


-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


-= JB =- wrote:

Does it make a difference if you chmod 755 it before you FTP?
I know a little about FTP and have Captain FTP.  Is the on-rev
FTP already turned on?


You can't do that, it has to be done on the server. And yes, FTP is  
ready to use.


You are correct that CGI is a different way to use the engine than  
the new on-rev scripting, and it does allow you to use stacks as  
libraries, which on-rev does not (or at least, not yet) so you're  
on the right track using the old-style CGI method if you want to  
use stacks. Here's a recap of some things that may be causing  
problems:


1. If you are trying to use CGI on your on-rev web space, it's  
Linux. You need to copy the Linux engine over there. It doesn't  
matter what your home machine is; you need the engine that matches  
the server OS. The engine and all your scripts must go into the cgi- 
bin folder.


2. Before uploading, use BBEdit or a similar editor to set all your  
script line endings to unix line endings. Again, that's because the  
server is Linux. The machine you use to create the files is  
immaterial; you need to match the server OS.


3. The declaration at the top of each script must match the name of  
the engine in your cgi-bin folder. My tutorial uses "revolution"  
but personally I generally just use "rev" because it's shorter and  
I'm lazy. It doesn't matter what you name the Rev engine on the  
server -- it could be "xlzy" if you want -- as long as every script  
you upload has the exact same engine declaration at the top.  
Capitalization matters, so check that. Also make sure that every  
script you use has a blank line under the engine declaration --  
that's required.


4. Upload using an FTP client if possible. I have used the webDAV  
method too, but it copies separate resouce forks to the server  
which are useless on Linux (those are the files that start with  
"_.". You can delete those from the server without any problem.)  
But using a dedicated FTP app, those extra files never get copied  
to the server in the first place. Also, an FTP app allows me to set  
file permissions easily.


5. Once you have everything on the server, go down the list of each  
newly-uploaded file and set its permissions to 755. In general you  
can't do this with the Mac "get info" box, you need terminal or an  
FTP client. That's another good reason to use a dedicated FTP app.


I did an experiment the other day to see if CGI worked with the on- 
rev servers and it works great. I dumped a copy of the linux engine  
into the cgi-bin folder, copied over the "echo.mt" test script, set  
permissions on both to 755, and bingo, it worked immediately. No  
missing library errors either, which is a big problem on many other  
hosting services. On-rev "just works", to steal a phrase. ;)


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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[J. Landman Gay]

-= JB =- wrote:
I have Personal Web Sharing turned on in my system preference folder.  
Is that

wrong, right or doesn't matter?


It doesn't matter. Your home PC is irrelevant to on-rev. The only 
connection in this case is that you are mounting the remote server on 
your desktop in order to copy files, but there is no interaction 
otherwise between on-rev and your home machine.


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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

It works great!

thank you very much, Andre

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


JB,

I think there was a bug in my file, can you download it again from:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Andre Garzia  
 wrote:



JB,

that link does not take you to my site but yours site with the  
tool in
it... go there again, does it say that revolution is installed? if  
so, click
the HERE thing to reinstall it and copy paste the page on an email  
to me.


Cheers
andre


On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, -= JB =-   
wrote:



Hi Andre,

I had already downloaded the file and installed it in my folder.
The way I installed it was by using webdisk which on-rev had
installed for me.

I clicked your link below and it took me to your site but in the
field it showed internal error and when I clicked on the sample
link it said internal error too.

-=>JB<=-



On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hey JB,


let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on  
your hard

drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html

then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it  
will be

installed.

:D

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-   
wrote:


 Thanks Andre


I used your site and had it install which was done without my  
needing
to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I  
wanted to

replace
the
version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk  
offered with
on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed  
replaced.


I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder  
using the

webdisk from on-rev.

then I entered the below in my broswer.

http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi

instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
I get an Internal Server Error

Do you have any idea what the problem is?

-=>JB<=-



On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hello Again my Friends,



Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on  
your On-Rev
account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is?  
Well,

well,
well, your problems are OVER!

With this new handy self contained self distributable self  
selfish
installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have  
everything

installed.

Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named  
revolution

in
your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my  
account

with
revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your
cgi-bin
folder
it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello  
world cgi

there.

The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it  
generates a zip

file
and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

Let us spread CGI love!

Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my  
server but
please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much  
carbon and I

want
a green account
Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only  
overwrites the

file
revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

Be happy!
andre

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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[J. Landman Gay]

-= JB =- wrote:

Does it make a difference if you chmod 755 it before you FTP?
I know a little about FTP and have Captain FTP.  Is the on-rev
FTP already turned on?


You can't do that, it has to be done on the server. And yes, FTP is 
ready to use.


You are correct that CGI is a different way to use the engine than the 
new on-rev scripting, and it does allow you to use stacks as libraries, 
which on-rev does not (or at least, not yet) so you're on the right 
track using the old-style CGI method if you want to use stacks. Here's a 
recap of some things that may be causing problems:


1. If you are trying to use CGI on your on-rev web space, it's Linux. 
You need to copy the Linux engine over there. It doesn't matter what 
your home machine is; you need the engine that matches the server OS. 
The engine and all your scripts must go into the cgi-bin folder.


2. Before uploading, use BBEdit or a similar editor to set all your 
script line endings to unix line endings. Again, that's because the 
server is Linux. The machine you use to create the files is immaterial; 
you need to match the server OS.


3. The declaration at the top of each script must match the name of the 
engine in your cgi-bin folder. My tutorial uses "revolution" but 
personally I generally just use "rev" because it's shorter and I'm lazy. 
It doesn't matter what you name the Rev engine on the server -- it could 
be "xlzy" if you want -- as long as every script you upload has the 
exact same engine declaration at the top. Capitalization matters, so 
check that. Also make sure that every script you use has a blank line 
under the engine declaration -- that's required.


4. Upload using an FTP client if possible. I have used the webDAV method 
too, but it copies separate resouce forks to the server which are 
useless on Linux (those are the files that start with "_.". You can 
delete those from the server without any problem.) But using a dedicated 
FTP app, those extra files never get copied to the server in the first 
place. Also, an FTP app allows me to set file permissions easily.


5. Once you have everything on the server, go down the list of each 
newly-uploaded file and set its permissions to 755. In general you can't 
do this with the Mac "get info" box, you need terminal or an FTP client. 
That's another good reason to use a dedicated FTP app.


I did an experiment the other day to see if CGI worked with the on-rev 
servers and it works great. I dumped a copy of the linux engine into the 
cgi-bin folder, copied over the "echo.mt" test script, set permissions 
on both to 755, and bingo, it worked immediately. No missing library 
errors either, which is a big problem on many other hosting services. 
On-rev "just works", to steal a phrase. ;)


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Re-2: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[runrev260805]

Hi JB,
hi Andre,

i can confirm this. Running the script only places 2 files (installcgi.tar.gz 
and installcgi.zip) in the same folder, where installcgi.irev is.

It shows me here

tar: ../revcgi.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
chmod: cannot access `cgi-bin/revolution': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `cgi-bin/*.cgi': No such file or directory


Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts 
(24-Apr-2009 18:58)
From:-= JB =- 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Hi Andre,
> 
> I had already downloaded the file and installed it in my folder.
> The way I installed it was by using webdisk which on-rev had
> installed for me.
> 
> I clicked your link below and it took me to your site but in the
> field it showed internal error and when I clicked on the sample
> link it said internal error too.
> 
> -=>JB<=-
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
> 
> > Hey JB,
> >
> > let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on your  
> > hard
> > drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html
> >
> > then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it  
> > will be
> > installed.
> >
> > :D
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-   
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Andre
> >>
> >> I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
> >> to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted  
> >> to replace
> >> the
> >> version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk  
> >> offered with
> >> on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.
> >>
> >> I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder  
> >> using the
> >> webdisk from on-rev.
> >>
> >> then I entered the below in my broswer.
> >>
> >> http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi
> >>
> >> instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
> >> I get an Internal Server Error
> >>
> >> Do you have any idea what the problem is?
> >>
> >> -=>JB<=-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello Again my Friends,
> >>>
> >>> Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your  
> >>> On-Rev
> >>> account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is?  
> >>> Well, well,
> >>> well, your problems are OVER!
> >>>
> >>> With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
> >>> installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have  
> >>> everything
> >>> installed.
> >>>
> >>> Oh yes, it is that easy!!!
> >>>
> >>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev
> >>>
> >>> Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.
> >>>
> >>> It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named  
> >>> revolution in
> >>> your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.
> >>>
> >>> If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my  
> >>> account with
> >>> revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your  
> >>> cgi-bin
> >>> folder
> >>> it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
> >>> there.
> >>>
> >>> The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates  
> >>> a zip
> >>> file
> >>> and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.
> >>>
> >>> Let us spread CGI love!
> >>>
> >>> Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my  
> >>> server but
> >>> please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon  
> >>> and I
> >>> want
> >>> a green account
> >>> Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only  
> >>> overwrites the
> >>> file
> >>> revolution if it is present and you tell it so.
> >>>
> >>> Be happy!
> >>> andre
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

JB,

I think there was a bug in my file, can you download it again from:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Andre Garzia  wrote:

> JB,
>
> that link does not take you to my site but yours site with the tool in
> it... go there again, does it say that revolution is installed? if so, click
> the HERE thing to reinstall it and copy paste the page on an email to me.
>
> Cheers
> andre
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:
>
>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> I had already downloaded the file and installed it in my folder.
>> The way I installed it was by using webdisk which on-rev had
>> installed for me.
>>
>> I clicked your link below and it took me to your site but in the
>> field it showed internal error and when I clicked on the sample
>> link it said internal error too.
>>
>> -=>JB<=-
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>>
>>  Hey JB,
>>>
>>> let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on your hard
>>> drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html
>>>
>>> then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it will be
>>> installed.
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks Andre

 I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
 to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted to
 replace
 the
 version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk offered with
 on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.

 I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder using the
 webdisk from on-rev.

 then I entered the below in my broswer.

 http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi

 instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
 I get an Internal Server Error

 Do you have any idea what the problem is?

 -=>JB<=-



 On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

  Hello Again my Friends,

>
> Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
> account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well,
> well,
> well, your problems are OVER!
>
> With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
> installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
> installed.
>
> Oh yes, it is that easy!!!
>
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev
>
> Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.
>
> It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution
> in
> your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.
>
> If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account
> with
> revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your
> cgi-bin
> folder
> it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
> there.
>
> The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip
> file
> and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.
>
> Let us spread CGI love!
>
> Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
> please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I
> want
> a green account
> Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the
> file
> revolution if it is present and you tell it so.
>
> Be happy!
> andre
>
> --
> http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code.
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

I have Personal Web Sharing turned on in my system preference  
folder.  Is that

wrong, right or doesn't matter?

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Hello Again my Friends,

Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well,  
well,

well, your problems are OVER!

With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
installed.

Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named  
revolution in

your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account  
with
revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your  
cgi-bin

folder
it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world  
cgi there.


The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a  
zip file

and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

Let us spread CGI love!

Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server  
but
please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon  
and I want

a green account
Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites  
the file

revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

Be happy!
andre

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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

JB,

that link does not take you to my site but yours site with the tool in it...
go there again, does it say that revolution is installed? if so, click the
HERE thing to reinstall it and copy paste the page on an email to me.

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:

> Hi Andre,
>
> I had already downloaded the file and installed it in my folder.
> The way I installed it was by using webdisk which on-rev had
> installed for me.
>
> I clicked your link below and it took me to your site but in the
> field it showed internal error and when I clicked on the sample
> link it said internal error too.
>
> -=>JB<=-
>
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>  Hey JB,
>>
>> let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on your hard
>> drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html
>>
>> then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it will be
>> installed.
>>
>> :D
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks Andre
>>>
>>> I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
>>> to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted to
>>> replace
>>> the
>>> version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk offered with
>>> on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.
>>>
>>> I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder using the
>>> webdisk from on-rev.
>>>
>>> then I entered the below in my broswer.
>>>
>>> http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi
>>>
>>> instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
>>> I get an Internal Server Error
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea what the problem is?
>>>
>>> -=>JB<=-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello Again my Friends,
>>>

 Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
 account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well,
 well,
 well, your problems are OVER!

 With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
 installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
 installed.

 Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

 Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

 It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution in
 your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

 If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account with
 revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your cgi-bin
 folder
 it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
 there.

 The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip
 file
 and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

 Let us spread CGI love!

 Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
 please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I
 want
 a green account
 Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the
 file
 revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

 Be happy!
 andre

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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

Hi Andre,

I had already downloaded the file and installed it in my folder.
The way I installed it was by using webdisk which on-rev had
installed for me.

I clicked your link below and it took me to your site but in the
field it showed internal error and when I clicked on the sample
link it said internal error too.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Hey JB,

let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on your  
hard

drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html

then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it  
will be

installed.

:D

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-   
wrote:



Thanks Andre

I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted  
to replace

the
version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk  
offered with

on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.

I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder  
using the

webdisk from on-rev.

then I entered the below in my broswer.

http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi

instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
I get an Internal Server Error

Do you have any idea what the problem is?

-=>JB<=-



On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hello Again my Friends,


Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your  
On-Rev
account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is?  
Well, well,

well, your problems are OVER!

With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have  
everything

installed.

Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named  
revolution in

your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my  
account with
revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your  
cgi-bin

folder
it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
there.

The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates  
a zip

file
and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

Let us spread CGI love!

Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my  
server but
please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon  
and I

want
a green account
Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only  
overwrites the

file
revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

Be happy!
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Matthias,

Glad you liked it! It took like 10 minutes to build and it is a real time
saver!

Thanks for the kind words!
Andre

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:49 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Andre,
>
> and again thanks for your amazing work.
>
> Although i have already installed the engine manually into one folder a few
> days ago, this tool will help me
> to install the cgi into other domain folders.
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts
> (24-Apr-2009 18:26)
> From:Andre Garzia 
> To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
>
> > Hello Again my Friends,
> >
> > Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
> > account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well, well,
> > well, your problems are OVER!
> >
> > With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
> > installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
> > installed.
> >
> > Oh yes, it is that easy!!!
> >
> > http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev
> >
> > Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.
> >
> > It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution in
> > your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.
> >
> > If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account with
> > revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your cgi-bin
> > folder
> > it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
> there.
> >
> > The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip
> file
> > and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.
> >
> > Let us spread CGI love!
> >
> > Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
> > please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I
> > want
> > a green account
> > Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the
> file
> > revolution if it is present and you tell it so.
> >
> > Be happy!
> > andre
> >
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[runrev260805]

Hi Andre,

and again thanks for your amazing work.

Although i have already installed the engine manually into one folder a few 
days ago, this tool will help me
to install the cgi into other domain folders.

Matthias




 Original Message 
Subject: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts 
(24-Apr-2009 18:26)
From:Andre Garzia 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Hello Again my Friends,
> 
> Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
> account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well, well,
> well, your problems are OVER!
> 
> With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
> installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
> installed.
> 
> Oh yes, it is that easy!!!
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev
> 
> Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.
> 
> It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution in
> your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.
> 
> If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account with
> revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your cgi-bin
> folder
> it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi there.
> 
> The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip file
> and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.
> 
> Let us spread CGI love!
> 
> Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
> please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I 
> want
> a green account
> Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the file
> revolution if it is present and you tell it so.
> 
> Be happy!
> andre
> 
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Hey JB,

let us go part by part... first did you unzipped the thing on your hard
drive and then copy just the irev file to your public_html

then you load http://sundown.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev then it will be
installed.

:D

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:

> Thanks Andre
>
> I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
> to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted to replace
> the
> version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk offered with
> on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.
>
> I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder using the
> webdisk from on-rev.
>
> then I entered the below in my broswer.
>
> http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi
>
> instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
> I get an Internal Server Error
>
> Do you have any idea what the problem is?
>
> -=>JB<=-
>
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>  Hello Again my Friends,
>>
>> Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
>> account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well, well,
>> well, your problems are OVER!
>>
>> With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
>> installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
>> installed.
>>
>> Oh yes, it is that easy!!!
>>
>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev
>>
>> Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.
>>
>> It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution in
>> your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.
>>
>> If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account with
>> revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your cgi-bin
>> folder
>> it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi
>> there.
>>
>> The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip
>> file
>> and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.
>>
>> Let us spread CGI love!
>>
>> Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
>> please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I
>> want
>> a green account
>> Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the
>> file
>> revolution if it is present and you tell it so.
>>
>> Be happy!
>> andre
>>
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Re: [ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[-= JB =-]

Thanks Andre

I used your site and had it install which was done without my needing
to fill out anything if I did it right.  It asked me if I wanted to  
replace the

version that was installed.  I had put in on by the webdisk offered with
on-rev and it appears to have been poorly copied so needed replaced.

I downloaded the zip file and put it in my public_html folder using the
webdisk from on-rev.

then I entered the below in my broswer.

http://sundown.on-rev.com/cgi-bin/hello.cgi

instead of taking me to a page with Hello World like your example
I get an Internal Server Error

Do you have any idea what the problem is?

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Hello Again my Friends,

Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well,  
well,

well, your problems are OVER!

With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
installed.

Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named  
revolution in

your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account  
with
revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your  
cgi-bin

folder
it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world  
cgi there.


The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a  
zip file

and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

Let us spread CGI love!

Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server  
but
please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon  
and I want

a green account
Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites  
the file

revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

Be happy!
andre

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[ANN] Revolution CGI Engine installation tool for On-Rev accounts

[Andre Garzia]

Hello Again my Friends,

Are you struggling to install the Revolution CGI engine on your On-Rev
account? Can't stand cPanel? Don't know what FTP or CHMOD is? Well, well,
well, your problems are OVER!

With this new handy self contained self distributable self selfish
installer, you'll be able to just load a web page and have everything
installed.

Oh yes, it is that easy!!!

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/installcgi.irev

Now enough marketing speak. Let me explain what this does.

It first check to see if there's a revolution engine named revolution in
your cgi-bin, if so, it does nothing.

If there's not, then it get a handy compressed file from my account with
revolution engine and database drivers and it unpacks it in your cgi-bin
folder
it also set the correct permissions and put a simple hello world cgi there.

The whole thing is self contained, so once it runs, it generates a zip file
and a tar.gz file of itself so that others can download it too.

Let us spread CGI love!

Now, I allow each of you to click the reinstall option on my server but
please don't keep reinstalling my engine, it uses too much carbon and I want
a green account
Anyway, this installer does not delete anything it only overwrites the file
revolution if it is present and you tell it so.

Be happy!
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Re: dgText [true] question?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:20 AM, David Bovill wrote:

Don't you think a uRIP version for the actual group makes sense? How  
else
can we tell if a data grid needs / can be updated to a newer version  
in the

future - or are you that sure that everything can be updated with good
behavior :)


I don't intend on having to update the actual group itself. That would  
be a pain for everyone. If any group changes are necessary in the  
future then version info can be tacked on at that time.



Hmmm.. runing 1.0.0.2 and:

set the dgText [true] of grp 1

is still not working with the first line of the table being tab  
delimited
text of the columns titles?... any ideas? - "set the dgText of grp  
1" is

working as expected for the same data.


Do the columns in your header exist in the table? If you pass in true  
the data grid will not try to create the columns. It assumes the  
columns are created already.


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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Adrian Williams]

Thanks to Mark and Marc, both solutions are useful.
The Administrator will be using this Installer in all cases.
So I guess a simple "~/library/fonts" will suffice.

Many thanks,
Adrian


On 24 Apr 2009, at 16:39, Marc Siskin wrote:


Adrian,

If you are referring to the logged on user then the path is always ~/ 
Library/etc.  If you are referring to all users, then you need to  
list the /Users directory which will give you a list of the accounts  
on the local machine. You should be able to parse the username from  
the listing of that directory.  You will probably need to use a sudo  
command if you are trying to install fonts in any other user than  
the one currently logged on.


Marc Siskin



Hi Adrian,

On the Mac, that's "~/library/fonts".

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Hello all,

Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For  
example:

MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it  
in a variable in the pathname?


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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Marc Siskin]

Adrian,

Another option would be to install the fonts in the /Library/Fonts  
directory which should make the fonts available to every user on the  
machine.


Marc

On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Williams wrote:


Thanks to Mark and Marc, both solutions are useful.
The Administrator will be using this Installer in all cases.
So I guess a simple "~/library/fonts" will suffice.

Many thanks,
Adrian


On 24 Apr 2009, at 16:39, Marc Siskin wrote:


Adrian,

If you are referring to the logged on user then the path is always  
~/Library/etc.  If you are referring to all users, then you need to  
list the /Users directory which will give you a list of the  
accounts on the local machine. You should be able to parse the  
username from the listing of that directory.  You will probably  
need to use a sudo command if you are trying to install fonts in  
any other user than the one currently logged on.


Marc Siskin



Hi Adrian,

On the Mac, that's "~/library/fonts".

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On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Adrian Williams wrote:



Hello all,

Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For  
example:

MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place  
it in a variable in the pathname?


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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Marc Siskin]

Adrian,

If you are referring to the logged on user then the path is always ~/ 
Library/etc.  If you are referring to all users, then you need to list  
the /Users directory which will give you a list of the accounts on the  
local machine. You should be able to parse the username from the  
listing of that directory.  You will probably need to use a sudo  
command if you are trying to install fonts in any other user than the  
one currently logged on.


Marc Siskin

On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Adrian Williams wrote:


Hello all,

Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For  
example:

MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it  
in a variable in the pathname?


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Re: Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Adrian,

On the Mac, that's "~/library/fonts".

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On 24 apr 2009, at 17:28, Adrian Williams wrote:


Hello all,

Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For  
example:

MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it  
in a variable in the pathname?


Thanks,
Adrian


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Getting the name for a Mac Users 'home'

[Adrian Williams]

Hello all,

Installing fonts into the Public domain is a breeze:
MacHD/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

But I need to install and uninstall fonts in the Users domain. For  
example:

MacHD/Users/someunknownname/Library/Fonts/MyNewFont.ttf

How can I retrieve 'someunknownname' from any computer and place it in  
a variable in the pathname?


Thanks,
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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[-= JB =-]

Does it make a difference if you chmod 755 it before you FTP?
I know a little about FTP and have Captain FTP.  Is the on-rev
FTP already turned on?

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Hello Folks,

The Revolution CGI engine is not pre installed on on-rev. You need  
to upload
it there, to the cgi-bin folder and chmod 755 it. A webdisk, I  
think is a
WebDAV volume like an iDisk, still, the on-rev account support ftp  
access
and ftp supports chmoding. I find WebDAV a novel thing which I  
never use.

Best go with FTP.

:D

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Richard Gaskin  

wrote:



-= JB =- wrote:


For some reason I thought the executable was supposed to be in the
 library folder
on my hard drive.  Also you are right it was not properly renamed to
 revolution.  It
seems I forgot that part after I had trouble finding it.

As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the  
executable  renamed

to revolution
I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move   
files on

my hard drive.

What is the proper way to install it?



Is this on your On-Rev account?

If so, I don't believe you need to install the Rev CGI at all; it  
should be
pre-installed, so all you'd need is the path to the engine, which  
should be

described in your signup docs or online help for On-Rev.

If not, what is webdisk?  If it's an FTP client, does it offer a  
choice

between text and binary transfer modes?

I've seen some FTP clients read the first few bits of the Rev  
engine, see
that it's ASCII, and try to use text mode, which will convert line  
endings
which may be fine for text files but will break the engine, since  
of course

the engine's object code is binary.

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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[-= JB =-]

Thanks Richard

I am sure I probably read it in the signup dpcs or somewhere but then
having it all be new it is easy to be learning things I don't need  
and in

fact can't use in that way.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


-= JB =- wrote:
For some reason I thought the executable was supposed to be in  
the  library folder
on my hard drive.  Also you are right it was not properly renamed  
to  revolution.  It

seems I forgot that part after I had trouble finding it.
As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable   
renamed to revolution
I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move   
files on my hard drive.

What is the proper way to install it?


Is this on your On-Rev account?

If so, I don't believe you need to install the Rev CGI at all; it  
should be pre-installed, so all you'd need is the path to the  
engine, which should be described in your signup docs or online  
help for On-Rev.


If not, what is webdisk?  If it's an FTP client, does it offer a  
choice between text and binary transfer modes?


I've seen some FTP clients read the first few bits of the Rev  
engine, see that it's ASCII, and try to use text mode, which will  
convert line endings which may be fine for text files but will  
break the engine, since of course the engine's object code is binary.


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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[Andre Garzia]

Hello Folks,

The Revolution CGI engine is not pre installed on on-rev. You need to upload
it there, to the cgi-bin folder and chmod 755 it. A webdisk, I think is a
WebDAV volume like an iDisk, still, the on-rev account support ftp access
and ftp supports chmoding. I find WebDAV a novel thing which I never use.
Best go with FTP.

:D

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> -= JB =- wrote:
>
>> For some reason I thought the executable was supposed to be in the
>>  library folder
>> on my hard drive.  Also you are right it was not properly renamed to
>>  revolution.  It
>> seems I forgot that part after I had trouble finding it.
>>
>> As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable  renamed
>> to revolution
>> I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move  files on
>> my hard drive.
>>
>> What is the proper way to install it?
>>
>
> Is this on your On-Rev account?
>
> If so, I don't believe you need to install the Rev CGI at all; it should be
> pre-installed, so all you'd need is the path to the engine, which should be
> described in your signup docs or online help for On-Rev.
>
> If not, what is webdisk?  If it's an FTP client, does it offer a choice
> between text and binary transfer modes?
>
> I've seen some FTP clients read the first few bits of the Rev engine, see
> that it's ASCII, and try to use text mode, which will convert line endings
> which may be fine for text files but will break the engine, since of course
> the engine's object code is binary.
>
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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[Richard Gaskin]

-= JB =- wrote:
For some reason I thought the executable was supposed to be in the  
library folder
on my hard drive.  Also you are right it was not properly renamed to  
revolution.  It

seems I forgot that part after I had trouble finding it.

As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable  
renamed to revolution
I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move  
files on my hard drive.


What is the proper way to install it?


Is this on your On-Rev account?

If so, I don't believe you need to install the Rev CGI at all; it should 
be pre-installed, so all you'd need is the path to the engine, which 
should be described in your signup docs or online help for On-Rev.


If not, what is webdisk?  If it's an FTP client, does it offer a choice 
between text and binary transfer modes?


I've seen some FTP clients read the first few bits of the Rev engine, 
see that it's ASCII, and try to use text mode, which will convert line 
endings which may be fine for text files but will break the engine, 
since of course the engine's object code is binary.


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Re: dgText [true] question?

[David Bovill]

OK - thanks.

Don't you think a uRIP version for the actual group makes sense? How else
can we tell if a data grid needs / can be updated to a newer version in the
future - or are you that sure that everything can be updated with good
behavior :)

Hmmm.. runing 1.0.0.2 and:

set the dgText [true] of grp 1

is still not working with the first line of the table being tab delimited
text of the columns titles?... any ideas? - "set the dgText of grp 1" is
working as expected for the same data.


2009/4/24 Trevor DeVore 

> On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:25 AM, David Bovill wrote:
>
>  I'm thinking that I may be using an older version of Data Grid? I don't
>> see a
>> uRIP version for the groups or a version property of the grids? How do I
>> check which version I have installed and if it is the latest?
>>
>
> put the uRIP["version"] of stack "revDataGridLibrary" & "." & the
> uRIP["buildnumber"] of stack "revDataGridLibrary".
>
> The latest version is the one that came with gm-1 which is 1.0.0 build 2.
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Re: dgText [true] question?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:25 AM, David Bovill wrote:

I'm thinking that I may be using an older version of Data Grid? I  
don't see a
uRIP version for the groups or a version property of the grids? How  
do I

check which version I have installed and if it is the latest?


put the uRIP["version"] of stack "revDataGridLibrary" & "." & the  
uRIP["buildnumber"] of stack "revDataGridLibrary".


The latest version is the one that came with gm-1 which is 1.0.0 build  
2.


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Re: On-Rev founders - some speed data?

[David Bovill]

Don't you just love Forums :(

2009/4/24 Jim Lyons 

> On Apr 24, 2009, at 6:59 AM, David Bovill wrote:
>
>  NB - AFAIK there is
>> no mention of python on On-Rev - but I've not tested to see if it is
>> installed - can;t imagine it won't be.
>>
>
> There is a note in the on-rev forum that Python will/has been installed.
>
> Jim
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Re: On-Rev founders - some speed data?

[Jim Lyons]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 6:59 AM, David Bovill wrote:


NB - AFAIK there is
no mention of python on On-Rev - but I've not tested to see if it is
installed - can;t imagine it won't be.


There is a note in the on-rev forum that Python will/has been installed.

Jim
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dgText [true] question?

[David Bovill]

For some reason this is not working for me when the first line of the text
data contains titles as tab delimited text.

set the dgText [true] of grp 1 of stack "Test" to tabbedText

The table displays nothing (empty), while:

set the dgText of grp 1 of stack "Test" to tabbedText

displays the full table with the first line being the table headers. I'm
thinking that I may be using an older version of Data Grid? I don't see a
uRIP version for the groups or a version property of the grids? How do I
check which version I have installed and if it is the latest?
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Re: On-Rev founders - some speed data?

[David Bovill]

2009/4/24 Ben Rubinstein 

> Of course there are also odd things that are very slow
> (you can crop an image faster in Transcript than using the built-in
> command,
> whch could perhaps be taken as a tribute to the speed of all the commands
> other than 'crop')


:) Do you use lines and items, or construct arrays from the imagedata?



> Has any one done anything like this?  Ideally, someone might have taken an
> existing facility in PHP or Python or Perl or Ruby (is Ruby installed on
> On-Rev?) and recoded it in Rev.  Otherewise googling eg "benchmark php
> python"
> produces a lot of less-than-real-world tests that have been translated into
> various languages for comparison.  I'd be very interested to know how
> on-rev
> matches up.


Great idea. Not sure what a real world test would be - but how about basing
it on Andre's Blog. There will be blogs in every language, and we could do a
basic speed test and also show how easy it is to code? NB - AFAIK there is
no mention of python on On-Rev - but I've not tested to see if it is
installed - can;t imagine it won't be.
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On-Rev founders - some speed data?

[Ben Rubinstein]

On-Rev founders are in a unique position at this point to give some indication
of the performance of the new facility (granting of course that there may be
also sorts of debugging etc going on, or at least further optimisations
possible in the future).

I don't think that speed is going to be the main issue in choosing a
server-side scripting language (and I know that it's rare that you can't make
more of a difference by improving the algorithm than by changing the language)
- but I think that perceived or presumed lack of speed could be an argument
against a new entrant in this market.

My experience with Revolution on the desktop is that I've recoded C apps into
Revolution and found that my app got faster - because I was standing on the
shoulders of Scott Raney, Mark W et al who'd put serious efforts into
optimising facilities.  Of course there are also odd things that are very slow
(you can crop an image faster in Transcript than using the built-in command,
whch could perhaps be taken as a tribute to the speed of all the commands
other than 'crop') - but in general my experience is that Rev apps are not
only fast, but faster than non-Rev programmers assume.  They think that we get
fast development time at the expense of slow execution time - I think we often
get both.  But against scripting languages on the server we're in a different
realm, and I don't know what we should expect.

Has any one done anything like this?  Ideally, someone might have taken an
existing facility in PHP or Python or Perl or Ruby (is Ruby installed on
On-Rev?) and recoded it in Rev.  Otherewise googling eg "benchmark php python"
produces a lot of less-than-real-world tests that have been translated into
various languages for comparison.  I'd be very interested to know how on-rev
matches up.

It would be great if someone who has access to the new kit could do some tests 
which for the first time can be running on the same server in the same 
conditions (as Apache module rather than CGI) and hence give some kind of 
actual data points.


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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[-= JB =-]

I have downloaded Andre's files and can get them to work without any  
problems.
Yes, I am new to all of this so maybe the wording is confusing me.   
Andre said

his was the First On-Rev based CMS and Blog. Jacque has a lesson on CGI
which stands for Computer Gateway Interface.  For some reason I was  
thinking
these were two different ways of accessing the web and using  
Revolution.  I
was thinking the CGI gives you more ability to use Rev stacks and  
scripts and

Andre's was not actually using the engine so no need to install it.

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:33 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM, -= JB =-   
wrote:




As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable  
renamed

to revolution
I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move  
files on

my hard drive.

What is the proper way to install it?



Again, I maybe off track here, but if you are doing this with on- 
rev I don't
think it is required. The reason for on-rev is to provide the  
environment to

you ready to go.

As far as I understand, only if you already had a site up an  
running on

another host and transferring it to on-rev would you need to use the
'classic' cgi engine etc. If you are starting from scratch, and  
this is all

new to you, which I get the impression it is because you say you 'are
learning from Jacques  lessons' then as you've already seen Andre's  
blog
example, and I believe you have downloaded his tg.zip file so as  
far as I
know all you need to do is amend these to your needs then transfer  
them to
your jb.on-rev.com domain and things should work. Hopefully Andre  
will step
in here but I don't think he installed the rev engine to get his  
site to

work.

Note, as far as using the webdisk is concerned I did notice on the  
on-rev
forums that someone mentioned some trouble with it, particularly if  
you were
transfering a folder full of files. Might need to check to see if  
it's OK to

just do one file at a time.

HTH
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Escaping filter patterns

[David Bovill]

Any one know the way to escape characters such as "[" in patterns for the
"filter" expression?
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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[Kay C Lan]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM, -= JB =-  wrote:

>
> As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable renamed
> to revolution
> I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move files on
> my hard drive.
>
> What is the proper way to install it?
>

Again, I maybe off track here, but if you are doing this with on-rev I don't
think it is required. The reason for on-rev is to provide the environment to
you ready to go.

As far as I understand, only if you already had a site up an running on
another host and transferring it to on-rev would you need to use the
'classic' cgi engine etc. If you are starting from scratch, and this is all
new to you, which I get the impression it is because you say you 'are
learning from Jacques  lessons' then as you've already seen Andre's blog
example, and I believe you have downloaded his tg.zip file so as far as I
know all you need to do is amend these to your needs then transfer them to
your jb.on-rev.com domain and things should work. Hopefully Andre will step
in here but I don't think he installed the rev engine to get his site to
work.

Note, as far as using the webdisk is concerned I did notice on the on-rev
forums that someone mentioned some trouble with it, particularly if you were
transfering a folder full of files. Might need to check to see if it's OK to
just do one file at a time.

HTH
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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[-= JB =-]

Thanks for the info RIchard.

For some reason I thought the executable was supposed to be in the  
library folder
on my hard drive.  Also you are right it was not properly renamed to  
revolution.  It

seems I forgot that part after I had trouble finding it.

As for uploading the engine file which I assume is the executable  
renamed to revolution
I was simply transferring it using the webdisk like I would move  
files on my hard drive.


What is the proper way to install it?

-=>JB<=-


On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I just pasted your script into a new TextEdit document, saved it,  
uploaded it, and it works.


Are you sure the executable is named "revolution" on the server?

Did you upload the engine file using text or binary transfer mode?

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Re: lesson to learn CGIs

[Richard Gaskin]

-= JB =- wrote:

> On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Jim Sims wrote:
>> On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, -= JB =- wrote:
>>> 1.  Are the line endings done in the script above with & cr & cr
>>> or am I
>>> somehow supposed to set them in TextEdit?  I am using Mac OS X so
>>> if I am right the line ending should be Unix which is a line
>>> feed.  That
>>> would mean replace & cr & cr with & lf.
>>
>> Perhaps it refers to how you save the file itself. I use BBEdit a
>> lot and can save files as either Macintosh, Unix, or DOS. I save it
>> as Unix and then upload to the server.
>
> That is what I was wondering but in TextEdit I didn't see those
> options.
> Maybe I should be using BBEdit to save it properly.

I just pasted your script into a new TextEdit document, saved it, 
uploaded it, and it works.


Are you sure the executable is named "revolution" on the server?

Did you upload the engine file using text or binary transfer mode?

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