Re: Creepy 2020
Ping Pong!!! I LOVE PING PONG P * P Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Shari wrote: I listed myself on Reunion.com eons ago, hoping to see all my old schoomates doing the same. They were starting to. Then the site changed not only their name, but the whole class listing thing, and became user unfriendly. Facebook seems to be doing the thing they used to do, where you can see your classmates not only for your year, but years before and after, because obviously not all your friends were in your class. Kinda cool, yes. I only wish they let you do grade schools and junior highs, too. Now THAT would be really cool! I'm not a big social networker but yes, some socializing is cool. I just reconnected with an old friend from my Macintosh Users Group that I'm no longer a member of. If I was a high school kid and all my friends were on Facebook, and we were all connected, yes it would be very very heady! The wall being your yearbook... very heady indeedy. I keep getting emails from Reunion.com trying to entice me back. One fellow keeps looking me up. The ex-husband of a good friend, they had an ugly divorce. Now why oh why does he keep looking at my profile there? Surely he knows I know how badly they ended? Unless he wants to tell his side... (crazy people) Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Help?
Eric, you are right. This is really very strange, and Rev should do something about this. It needs to be either verified and fixed, or else marked as non-reproducible. Its very basic functionality. Éric Miclo wrote: It seems that Linux (as well as text field or correcting some longstanding bugs) is not a priority. Example: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7017 is still in an unconfirmed state since 2008-08-24. I would be very glad if I was wrong and see something new soon. Best, ÉrIC -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Printing-Help--tp24263122p24302374.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Game update
Thanks, Nicolas. I'm not sure where I read about 'clone invisible' - I don't see it in the docs anywhere! Hopefully the website will give ideas and examples for anyone wanting to use irev for upcoming projects. Graphic designer? LOL - usually when people see my Gimp offerings they realise that I'm NOT a designer! :) Nicolas Cueto wrote: John, Tried to run your game on Rev 2.9 but got an error. Found the problem, though. In the game card script, I modified the two clone lines thus: -- clone invisible grp tObject of card game clone grp tObject of card game ... -- clone invisible grc grcPath clone grc grcPath of card game Maybe clone invisible is not supported by 2.9? Anyway. Cute little game. Specially the look of it. And thank you too for making available every irev script on your website -- the design of which is charming, specially the penguin. I guess you're a graphic designer? Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: moving domain to on-rev
Hi Stephen, My mistake I didn't mean my ISP but my registar of course. They should change the nameservers . There is a controlpanel but since cuurently they also host the site and unfortunatly I can't change the nameservers. Best wishes, Claudi On 1 jul 2009, at 20:21, stephen barncard wrote: You shouldn't have to ask your ISP to change the nameservers. I haven't had to do that for years. Your domain registrar may be, and usually is, a different entity than your ISP. Registrars usually offer a control panel to do such changes, and anyone with an administrative or technical contact authorization can change it. It's dead-dog simple to change. Three items, copy and paste. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/1 Claudi Cornaz claud...@fiberworld.nl I will now ask my isp to try again to change the nameservers, hoping it will work this time. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy
On 1 Jul 2009, at 21:28, François Chaplais wrote: Every time somebody writes something on this list, it's indexed by google. It may be a good thing, provided you protect what's valuable to you. Sometimes I think of internet as a huge orgy of information, with little protection. You can read s much into that last sentence. Classic. That's a keeper! Cheers, Luis. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cannot open my jpeg ! - and some serious thinking
Sarah, curl is certainly available for windows, but AFAIK is not part of the standard installation - it can be found here: http://curl.haxx.se/download.html Best, Mark On 2 Jul 2009, at 02:10, Sarah Reichelt wrote: The curl method works beautifully on my Mac, but is curl available on Windows computers? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev user who is also a FileMaker Pro developer
I'm looking for a Rev user who is also a FileMaker Pro developer, one who currently makes FM Pro 'stuff' for clients on a regular (or somewhat irregular) basis. I don't have a client for you but want some general information if you have a few minutes. Thanks sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy
You can read s much into that last sentence. Classic. That's a keeper! Cheers, Luis. I think therein lies the key. Protecting what's valuable. Because I have an online business, several actually, my email is widespread. I don't use different emails for different things because that became too confusing. I know a lot of folks do, though. I rely on my Procmail filters heavily to weed out the incoming junk. And my host helps, too. I always try to remember that whatever I post is actually public info. Whether it be here, Facebook, mySpace, my web pages, Google groups, wherever. People have gotten fired from jobs over stuff they posted online. I've seen people post things where it was what were you thinking? Usually young folks on mySpace, LOL! Another thing, I never click on email attachments unless I'm specifically expecting something, like a screenshot or photos from a friend. I don't even open forwards, no matter who sends them. All the cutsie things, dancing chipmunks, whatever it is people send each other to, I don't do it. I know most of the folks sending them to me are not very knowledgeble about using protection and get a lot of diseases. You try to tell them but... Yup, the internet needs a dispenser on the wall where people can hit a button and get their protections. It's an epidemic! :D Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Ping Pong!!! I LOVE PING PONG P * P I've got a fan! Woo hoo! And a face to go with the name :-) Now how did he find me? Dunno. I musta shown up on his potential buddy list since many of you are on mine. If anybody's looking you'll find me under Coxford. Now I dare you to find a friend whose last name is Smith or Johnson. All you can do is hope they look for you someday... -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Actually, I went through all of your different businesses and searched on them until I found your full name on one and searched that in FB. Nice trail through shareware, t-shirts, other t-shirts, still other t- shirts etc. until the Pong fan page. [OT] I also sell t-shirts online and write applications. Is this a coincidence??? I also have multiple online businesses. Hmmm... My latest is providing dedicated portals to online businesses as an application on the iPhone. I have just finished teaching myself how to write the iPhone apps and am researching best practices for optimal web views. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Shari wrote: Ping Pong!!! I LOVE PING PONG P * P I've got a fan! Woo hoo! And a face to go with the name :-) Now how did he find me? Dunno. I musta shown up on his potential buddy list since many of you are on mine. If anybody's looking you'll find me under Coxford. Now I dare you to find a friend whose last name is Smith or Johnson. All you can do is hope they look for you someday... -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Game update
On Jul 2, 2009, at 3:15 AM, splash21 wrote: Thanks, Nicolas. I'm not sure where I read about 'clone invisible' - I don't see it in the docs anywhere! Hopefully the website will give ideas and examples for anyone wanting to use irev for upcoming projects. If you're using Rev 3.5 you should consider adding a clarifying note to the clone command entry in the Rev Dictionary. :-) Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point is that corporations are just providing a service that we want, I can see your point. The problem I see is that at least in the United States, for the most part, we don't own our own data. It is also legal, apparently, to attach penalties (or should it be benefits) to not disclosing data when its for services that have nothing to do with the service. For example - does Safeway really need to know that I, personally, bought Ben Jerry's Imagine World Peace, or that my preferences for this ice cream occur on date X in location Y? If I do not disclose this information by using a rewards card, that Ill be charged significantly more? For purely inventory purposes, they don't really need to know that. As a reseller, they haven't any vested right in the property of the product to even ask that - they haven't licensed that pint to me. Now its perhaps good for them to know that this particular store sells through this particular product at rate X - but they do not need to tag me with that information. What combination of future devices can be used in the future with this information? How will Safeway, in the future, utilize that information to provide complementary services with its partners? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
This is a problem that revolves around 2 highly abstract concepts: 'Rights' and 'Property'; both of which have no reality in the physical sense at all. 'Rights' are even more nebulous than 'Property' so I'll TRY to show what is 'odd' about the concept of property first. For the sake of argument: 1. I own a house in Scotland. How would I ultimately prove that? Well . . . title deeds (which can be faked), the beliefs of my neighbours (notoriously fickle), a rental agreement (on paper) I have with somebody who pays me money to live in the house. Difficult one. 2. I own the coat I am wearing. Really? Begs the question. 3. I own my ideas, ways I behave ['data'], and so on. WHAT do you own? An abstract concept (ownership) applied to a set of abstractions and behaviours resulting from a congeries of abstractions. 'Rights' Consider: I have a right to own a fridge. What on earth does that mean? Either I own a fridge (maybe that constitutes having a fridge inside my house), or I don't. I suppose we could have a piece of paper drawn up by some chaps that states Every man has the right to . but I really wonder if the chaps who drew up that paper had really thought through what that meant? Lynn Fredricks wrote: snip For example - does Safeway really need to know that I, personally, bought Ben Jerry's Imagine World Peace, or that my preferences for this ice cream occur on date X in location Y? If I do not disclose this information by using a rewards card, that Ill be charged significantly more? snip Now, knowledge is mine only as long as it is locked inside my head; as soon as it is out, running around wild, in the open it is as free as a bird. Anybody who sees me buying Haggis at Mogerley's in Dumfries doesn't, surely, have to ask my permission to tell that piece of information to the owner of the Instant Plastic Haggis Factory so he can flood my letter box with multi-coloured pamphlets about how his Haggises are only made from the meat of choicest stray dogs and cats? If I do not disclose this information by using a rewards card, that Ill be charged significantly more? Tough cheese, you live in a market-driven economy - move to a people's paradise such as Cuba (or, soon to be Venezuela and Nepal) if you can't hack it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
R - Day
Ouch, my internet was down for about 27 hours, and apart from making the poor, long-suffering technicians (HUMPH) at the ISP cope with my execrable Bulgarian ; I have been all-of-a-tremble in case I missed R - Day; i.e. the day when the RR 4.0 betas are released. Luckily I didn't miss R - Day. Does anybody close to the throne know when R - Day will be. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: R - Day
There are currently no updates available, please check again soon. with Finish Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Ouch, my internet was down for about 27 hours, and apart from making the poor, long-suffering technicians (HUMPH) at the ISP cope with my execrable Bulgarian ; I have been all-of-a-tremble in case I missed R - Day; i.e. the day when the RR 4.0 betas are released. Luckily I didn't miss R - Day. Does anybody close to the throne know when R - Day will be. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: R - Day
R-Day will be when the stars are right (*) *: cue lovecraft. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Thomas McGrath IIImcgra...@mac.com wrote: There are currently no updates available, please check again soon. with Finish Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Ouch, my internet was down for about 27 hours, and apart from making the poor, long-suffering technicians (HUMPH) at the ISP cope with my execrable Bulgarian ; I have been all-of-a-tremble in case I missed R - Day; i.e. the day when the RR 4.0 betas are released. Luckily I didn't miss R - Day. Does anybody close to the throne know when R - Day will be. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Hi, The sort command in 3.5 seems to be adding lines to a variable. I have a lot of old code that creates lists using a method like this and I don't believe the problem occurs in earlier versions of rev. Is this a reported bug or am I missing something? To see the error, create a stack with a button, paste the following code into the button and click on the button. On MouseUp Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. End MouseUp Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Game update
splash21 wroteL I'm not sure where I read about 'clone invisible' - I don't see it in the docs anywhere! Hopefully the website will give ideas and examples for anyone wanting to use irev for upcoming projects. How would the clone command come into play with a web project? iRev is a server-side technology. If you're thinking of the browser plug-in, my understanding is that that won't be available until Beta in September. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Try this ; Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. Hope this help, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 2 juil. 09 à 20:24, Timothy Bleiler a écrit : Hi, The sort command in 3.5 seems to be adding lines to a variable. I have a lot of old code that creates lists using a method like this and I don't believe the problem occurs in earlier versions of rev. Is this a reported bug or am I missing something? To see the error, create a stack with a button, paste the following code into the button and click on the button. On MouseUp Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. End MouseUp Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Pierre Sahores wrote: Try this ; Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. That gives 2 and 2. But if you remove the word 1 to -1 of in each case, to simply use Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. then you get Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has 2 lines. Post-Sort, variable tTemp has 3 lines. However, if you go back to 3.0, then both versions of the script give you Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has 2 lines. Post-Sort, variable tTemp has 2 lines. So it is certainly a change in the result between 3.5 and earlier versions. I have a very vague feeling I saw something about this (discussion, bug report, ) but cannot find it again. Could it have been a deliberate change in behaviour - i.e. fixing a previous bug ? I'm sorry that I can't remember what it was i saw (or imagined) about this - but I can confirm it is a change in result between the recent versions. (Maybe Pierre was suggesting using word 1 to -1 of as a work-around that gives the same result in all versions ? if so, another work-around is to delete the trailing CR before the sort is done) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Yes, Pierre that form does give a consistent count of the number of lines in the variable. However, the question remains about why the sort command is moving the last cr to the first line which effectively adds a line at the beginning of the variable. If the sort command is treating the last CR as another line, then number of lines in tTemp should also and always return 3 in this example. There remains some ambiguity about how the engine treats the final dangling cr after cat in this example. If the first line is Put Dog cr Cat into tTemp then the problem doesn't occur. The biggest problem is that this is different behavior from previous versions of Rev. In prior versions, the number of lines in tTemp would always return 2 in the initial example. On Jul 2, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Try this ; Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in word 1 to -1 of tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. Hope this help, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 2 juil. 09 à 20:24, Timothy Bleiler a écrit : Hi, The sort command in 3.5 seems to be adding lines to a variable. I have a lot of old code that creates lists using a method like this and I don't believe the problem occurs in earlier versions of rev. Is this a reported bug or am I missing something? To see the error, create a stack with a button, paste the following code into the button and click on the button. On MouseUp Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. End MouseUp Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. Coupons, and the like dominate our retail world because people are stupid or greedy enough and especially selfish enough to take part and thus demand such false economy systems. Safeway spends hundereds of millions of dollars on these schemes. Who pays that cost?. Those who sign up pay some of that cost, but especially those good people who wont. It is a draconian tax on those who still have a sence of morality and responcibility towards others. If people cared more about the health of the economy than saving 29 cents on a 12 pack of toilet paper, the cost of all goods would come down. Very time we sign up for or make use of a membership program we are saying i want someone else to pay for my greed, and we are saying that to people with a greater sence of morality and a greater respect for comunity anf the future. Is saving 29 cents worth the moral cost that it represents? If so, we deserve the economic crash and global climate catastrophe. In a global economy we vote more with our puchaces than in the polling booth. Lets all start owning up to the fact that we are buying more than toilet paper each time we go to the checkout register. Maybe 29 cents is a bargain if what you are really buying is social welfair, fairness, trust and respect for your fellow humans, and a much more stable future. -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point is that corporations are just providing a service that we want, I can see your point. The problem I see is that at least in the United States, for the most part, we don't own our own data. It is also legal, apparently, to attach penalties (or should it be benefits) to not disclosing data when its for services that have nothing to do with the service. For example - does Safeway really need to know that I, personally, bought Ben Jerry's Imagine World Peace, or that my preferences for this ice cream occur on date X in location Y? If I do not disclose this information by using a rewards card, that Ill be charged significantly more? For purely inventory purposes, they don't really need to know that. As a reseller, they haven't any vested right in the property of the product to even ask that - they haven't licensed that pint to me. Now its perhaps good for them to know that this particular store sells through this particular product at rate X - but they do not need to tag me with that information. What combination of future devices can be used in the future with this information? How will Safeway, in the future, utilize that information to provide complementary services with its partners? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Thanks Alex. There are a lot of ways to work around the problems caused by this. However, my main concern though is with the inconsistency in the engine regarding the cr in the variable. The engine is inconsistent in its definition of a line for these two lines of code: sort the lines of tTemp put the number of lines in tTemp Sort should never result in changes to the number of lines reported by the engine. Paul, I think I've seen that too in the earlier versions when there is a char on the line after the cr. In that case, the sort command in the simple form moves the empty line to the beginning of the variable. The difference between 3.5 and earlier versions that I've seen now is that a cr with nothing after it is moved to the beginning of the variable, effectively creating a new line. In earlier versions a cr at the end of a variable was left at the end of the variable by the sort command. Tim On Jul 2, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 Paul Looney On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Timothy Bleiler wrote: Hi, The sort command in 3.5 seems to be adding lines to a variable. I have a lot of old code that creates lists using a method like this and I don't believe the problem occurs in earlier versions of rev. Is this a reported bug or am I missing something? To see the error, create a stack with a button, paste the following code into the button and click on the button. On MouseUp Put Dog cr \ Cat cr into tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPreSortCount sort tTemp Put number of lines in tTemp into tPostSortCount Put Pre-Sort, variable tTemp has tPreSortCount lines. return \ Post-Sort, variable tTemp has tPostSortCount lines. End MouseUp Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line exceeded 65,535 chars. According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the latest version. But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks. Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Randall Reetz wrote: You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. Or go ahead and sign up for the Normal Price cards (which the stores mislabel Customer Rewards cards), but just don't use any real info. If you apply at the counter they'll hand you the card on the spot; no need for a valid mailing address. While you're at it, it's helpful for privacy advocacy to fill out the application with a completely different demographic profile than yours, so the more people who do this the less useful the database becomes. As these scammers begin to realize they've been scammed, they'll have to return to the fundamental goal of good business: delivering value. Fourth World's Privacy Policy linked to from every page at our site makes our position on these things clear: http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/privacy.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. Coupons, and the like dominate our retail world because people are stupid or greedy enough and especially selfish enough to take part and thus demand such false economy systems. Safeway spends hundereds of millions of dollars on these schemes. Who pays that cost?. Those who sign up pay some of that cost, but especially those good people who wont. It is a draconian tax on those who still have a sence of morality and responcibility towards others. If people cared more about the health of the economy than saving 29 cents on a 12 pack of toilet paper, the cost of all goods would come down. Very time we sign up for or make use of a membership program we are saying i want someone else to pay for my greed, and we are saying that to people with a greater sence of morality and a greater respect for comunity anf the future. Is saving 29 cents worth the moral cost that it represents? If so, we deserve the economic crash and global climate catastrophe. In a global economy we vote more with our puchaces than in the polling booth. Lets all start owning up to the fact that we are buying more than toilet paper each time we go to the checkout register. Maybe 29 cents is a bargain if what you are really buying is social welfair, fairness, trust and respect for your fellow humans, and a much more stable future. -Original Message- From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I still think it ironic that we are intolerant of governments and corporations when they engage in behaviors we excuse in our selves. I wouldn't lump these two together. But if your point is that corporations are just providing a service that we want, I can see your point. The problem I see is that at least in the United States, for the most part, we don't own our own data. It is also legal, apparently, to attach penalties (or should it be benefits) to not disclosing data when its for services that have nothing to do with the service. For example - does Safeway really need to know that I, personally, bought Ben Jerry's Imagine World Peace, or that my preferences for this ice cream occur on date X in location Y? If I do not disclose this information by using a rewards card, that Ill be charged significantly more? For purely inventory purposes, they don't really need to know that. As a reseller, they haven't any vested right in the property of the product to even ask that - they haven't licensed that pint to me. Now its perhaps good for them to know that this particular store sells through this particular product at rate X - but they do not need to tag me with that information. What combination of future devices can be used in the future with this information? How will Safeway, in the future, utilize that information to provide complementary services with its partners? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Game update
Nicolas showed how to fix the game stack to work in previous versions of rev, then mentioned irev afterwards. My reply was just hitting each point. Sorry for any confusion :) Richard Gaskin wrote: splash21 wroteL I'm not sure where I read about 'clone invisible' - I don't see it in the docs anywhere! Hopefully the website will give ideas and examples for anyone wanting to use irev for upcoming projects. How would the clone command come into play with a web project? iRev is a server-side technology. If you're thinking of the browser plug-in, my understanding is that that won't be available until Beta in September. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
I agree with Richard. It looks like http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi? id=7809 is NOT fixed. Can someone reopen the report? I think its severity should be changed to major. I will go back to using 3.0, for now. Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 On Jul 2, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line exceeded 65,535 chars. According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the latest version. But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks. Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Randall Reetz wrote: You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. But sometimes the choice isn't explicit, or really a choice at all. The story I like to tell in my class is of how, when we were trying to have our children, we needed to use fertility services. As we needed to use an egg donor (TMI, I know), we had to use twice the normal amount of hormone drugs, a partial portion of the price for which was covered by our insurance. Now, it turns out that some of these same drugs are also given to post-menopausal women, which didn't occur to me at the time, but I was somewhat astounded to have become the recipient of emails from the AARP and coupons for Depends... Coincidence? I think not. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Yeah, I'm out there :-) Got three websites just for the tshirts, but the designs are all the same. It's the fulfillment companies that are different. Got two websites for the software. Got other websites that just are. You with the evil CP? Or Z-Pod? Or other? Actually, I went through all of your different businesses and searched on them until I found your full name on one and searched that in FB. Nice trail through shareware, t-shirts, other t-shirts, still other t-shirts etc. until the Pong fan page. [OT] I also sell t-shirts online and write applications. Is this a coincidence??? I also have multiple online businesses. Hmmm... -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
On 2/7/09 21:18, Timothy Bleiler wrote: I agree with Richard. It looks like http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 is NOT fixed. Can someone reopen the report? I think its severity should be changed to major. I've re-opened this report - please feel free to add any comments to it. Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
If the majority of consumers demanded fairness over gimmicks, the safeways of the world would be falling over themselves to meet that market. It is we. Our daily actions determine the shape of products and services and what we value. There is a study done of chimps. A chimps was taught to count. Put a late of jelly beans in front of it and this chimps would sit there draging one at a time into a pile... Then touch the square with the number (1 to 100) corresponding on a touch screen. After a while he was correct almost 100 percent of the time. If he was correct, he got to eat the beans. If not, he had to wait for the next day to try again. Then the changed the experiment. Brought in another chimps behind a glass partition. The other chimps had no roll but to be there. In the presence of the second chimp, the counting chimps ability to count go worse and worse. Especially because a wrong count meant he had to watch the plate of beans handed to the passive chimp each time he lost. I think humans have the same problem. We cant perform when we think somone eles might profit from our mistakes. It isnt so much that we want a discount on toilet paper as it is that we simply couldnt take it if someone else got that discount and we didnt. -Original Message- From: Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 Randall Reetz wrote: You have a choice. Dont sign up for special sales gimmicks. But sometimes the choice isn't explicit, or really a choice at all. The story I like to tell in my class is of how, when we were trying to have our children, we needed to use fertility services. As we needed to use an egg donor (TMI, I know), we had to use twice the normal amount of hormone drugs, a partial portion of the price for which was covered by our insurance. Now, it turns out that some of these same drugs are also given to post-menopausal women, which didn't occur to me at the time, but I was somewhat astounded to have become the recipient of emails from the AARP and coupons for Depends... Coincidence? I think not. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While you're at it, it's helpful for privacy advocacy to fill out the application with a completely different demographic profile than yours, so the more people who do this the less useful the database becomes. I heard from a guy in cypherpunks.com that every time they meet, they throw all their Safeway cards into a hat, shake, and pick out a new one... --Jerry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Richard, It has been a while... I went back and checked my records. The problem (probably related to the number of characters per line) was thousands of NULL characters in the variable. When I removed the NULLs, everything worked fine. So now I always trap for NULLs before doing a sort - and have not had a repeat of this problem. By the way, we are not sure where the NULLS came from. Our best guess is that it has something to do with pasting text from a word processor into one of our notes fields. I, too, would like to know the new limit. Mark? Paul Looney On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line exceeded 65,535 chars. According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the latest version. But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks. Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Pasted-in NULL characters can also train wreck the GLX2 script editor. I use Tex-Edit (not Textedit) for quick text cleaning.I've seen text from a database serving Wordpress where users had pasted in NULLs with their text, not to mention curly quotes, etc. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/2 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com Richard, It has been a while... I went back and checked my records. The problem (probably related to the number of characters per line) was thousands of NULL characters in the variable. When I removed the NULLs, everything worked fine. So now I always trap for NULLs before doing a sort - and have not had a repeat of this problem. By the way, we are not sure where the NULLS came from. Our best guess is that it has something to do with pasting text from a word processor into one of our notes fields. I, too, would like to know the new limit. Mark? Paul Looney On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Looney wrote: I have had the opposite happen. On a large variable, sorting removed lines. Rev 3.0, OS X 10.5 If memory serves, that was the result of a limitation of the sort command where it could only be used reliably on data in which no single line exceeded 65,535 chars. According to the v3.5 Engine Change Log, that was fixed in v3.5: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5932 Unfortunately the current limit is not noted in the docs for the Sort command, nor in that report, so I don't know exactly what it is in the latest version. But 64k of text was a lot for a single line, so whatever it's been raised to should be plenty for most common tasks. Timothy's report of the trailing blank line may be a regression error which had been marked as fixed in the 3.5 Engine Change Log: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7809 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
About good and simple text editors that can keep text clean (of null characters, in this case), Stephen Barncard recommended Tex-Edit but that's for Macs. Any similar recommendations for Windows? Or is Notepad sufficient? And please note the word simple :-) Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How can runrevWeblet work directly within html-mail?
Thank you ian for the very informative link you provided on how flash works in email apps (answer is it does not!) Ian Wood-3 wrote: I wasn't aware that web plugins (other than QT on a Mac) worked within mail clients. Ian P.S. http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/post/1974/the-truth-about-1/ On 30 Jun 2009, at 14:29, Robert M. wrote: Hi, maybe not the right place to post, but can't find anyother place.. So I'd like to be able to attach a runrevWeblet to a mail and have it run directly within mail app equivalents. Is this.. total dream, or feasable, in the future? When?? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-can-runrevWeblet-work-directly-within-html-mail--tp24271843p24315224.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Well one could make a simple thing in a standalone replace numToChar(0) with empty in fld x (or any container, perhaps the clipboard) by the way NULL is a built in constant in Rev. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/7/2 Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com About good and simple text editors that can keep text clean (of null characters, in this case), Stephen Barncard recommended Tex-Edit but that's for Macs. Any similar recommendations for Windows? Or is Notepad sufficient? And please note the word simple :-) Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data grid question
Is there a Mac-compatible link? The .wmv link got me a bunch of TextEdit garbage. Thanks. On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: forgot the link: http://www.runrev.com/offers/webinar-2009-03-26/data-grid-webinar.wmv Paul Gabel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sort Command in 3.5 is adding lines to a variable
Nicolas, About win rock-solid free editors : have an eye to Crimson Editor. one of the bests windows equivalents of a TextMate and TextWrangler mix, aka powerfull and fast in the same time. Best, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 3 juil. 09 à 00:52, Nicolas Cueto a écrit : About good and simple text editors that can keep text clean (of null characters, in this case), Stephen Barncard recommended Tex-Edit but that's for Macs. Any similar recommendations for Windows? Or is Notepad sufficient? And please note the word simple :-) Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data grid question
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Paul Gabelpaulga...@comcast.net wrote: Is there a Mac-compatible link? The .wmv link got me a bunch of TextEdit garbage. Thanks. On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: forgot the link: http://www.runrev.com/offers/webinar-2009-03-26/data-grid-webinar.wmv If you install the free Flip4Mac WMV player, you will be able to play these wmv files on your Mac. http://www.telestream.net/flip4mac-wmv/overview.htm Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: R - Day
Stars!... Can't do it... Not today. The Road to El Dorado. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Andre Garziaan...@andregarzia.com wrote: R-Day will be when the stars are right (*) *: cue lovecraft. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: R - Day
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote: The Road to El Dorado. Any Way The Wind Blows The Road to Escondido ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Shari sh...@gypsyware.com wrote: I always try to remember that whatever I post is actually public info. Whether it be here, Facebook, mySpace, my web pages, Google groups, wherever. That is an extremely sensible attitude to take. What you may not appreciate is what other people are doing to take advantage of the fact that * everything* on the web is pretty well open for public consumption. Check out this Livestream presentation. The bit that is of interest starts at 12:50 and runs through to about 21:00 - once you go to the link and press play and it loads, press pause and move the 'time readout' to 12:50 and then press play again - save yourself 12 min of listening. This link should all be on one line: http://www.livestream.com/denlive/ondemand/pla_3982760579168982080?initthumburl=http://mogulus-user-files.s3.amazonaws.com/chdenlive/2009/06/29/17a7a02e-a2ea-4d88-8444-edc437236e5f_2100.jpgplayeraspectwidth=4playeraspectheight=3 Basically it shows how you as an individual can save yourself an enormous amount of time by using the work (bloggs, bookmarks, keywords) of others to direct you to the online information that is highly relevant to you. Enjoy. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: If the majority of consumers demanded fairness over gimmicks I want you all to lean out your window and yell 'I'm as mad as H*LL and I'm not going to take it any more! Couldn't resist, I was watching the movie 'Network' tonight. ;-) sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Jim- Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:54:39 PM, you wrote: I want you all to lean out your window and yell 'I'm as mad as H*LL and I'm not going to take it any more! I did that, but a couple of squirrels thought I was a nut... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creepy 2020
Wow, I can't believe the life of the thread I started! Fascinating! And I wuz worried about posting something slightly OT... LOL! Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
That will be the day! -Original Message- From: Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: If the majority of consumers demanded fairness over gimmicks I want you all to lean out your window and yell 'I'm as mad as H*LL and I'm not going to take it any more! Couldn't resist, I was watching the movie 'Network' tonight. ;-) sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Missing Menu Lines?
Is there a reason a menubar on OS X hides the last 2 items in each menu? Pretty simple stuff: File Edit Help Page Setup...Cut About PrintCopy - Paste Exit Clear On Windows, menus display correctly. On OS X, the last 2 items in every menu are not displayed, and if the Help menu has only 2 items, it is not displayed at all. The only way I can get them to show up is to add 2 separators to the bottom of each menu. Is this expected behavior? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Missing Menu Lines?
Welcome to the wonderful world of cross-platform menubars. You've been tapped on the wrist by Rev's helping hand for MacOSX peculiarities: - Your 'File' menu should end with a separator and Exit/Quit item - on MacOSX, the Quit item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the File button - Your 'Edit' menu should end with a separator and Preferences item - on MacOSX, the Preferences item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the Edit button - Your 'Help' menu should end with a separator and About item - on MacOSX, the About item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the Help button Note that if you don't have a Preferences menu item, you should still put it there, but disable it - Rev will then disable the item in the application menu. See also the Revolution 3.5 User Guide pdf pp 265-266. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com Subject: Missing Menu Lines? To: Revolution Mail List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 9:31 PM Is there a reason a menubar on OS X hides the last 2 items in each menu? Pretty simple stuff: File Edit Help Page Setup... Cut About Print Copy - Paste Exit Clear On Windows, menus display correctly. On OS X, the last 2 items in every menu are not displayed, and if the Help menu has only 2 items, it is not displayed at all. The only way I can get them to show up is to add 2 separators to the bottom of each menu. Is this expected behavior? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Missing Menu Lines?
Recently, Jan Schenkel wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of cross-platform menubars. You've been tapped on the wrist by Rev's helping hand for MacOSX peculiarities Figured it was something like that -- thanks for the explanation. It's been so long since I've done anything with standard menus I've forgotten how they work! Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Staying in Edinburgh
or stay somewhere free http://www.couchsurfing.org/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
I would hope that the economic and ecological and resource and energy catastrophe we are facing (living within) would give us all reason to pause and think deeply about which kind of humanity we want to be. We have seen what skimming and baseless profiteering wrot. We might now think what productivity really means. Ask our selves what typrs of activities actually produce more per hour worked. And more to the point, which activities produce what is nessisary for the production tomorrow of higher productivity. The only way to make more money (unless you want another recession adjustment) is to do only productivity increasing activities. Anything else is fake wealth and will be followed by the inevitable correction. So, are we done ripping eachother off? Can we start acting like we are adults and believe in reality? Consuption does not drive an economy. Consumption results from a healthy productive economy. Revenue and throughput isnt a reliable indicator of productivity. We must have learned this little lesson. It isnt how much money you can funnel towards yourn section of the pie, it is how york section of the pie can grow the whole pie bigger. This is a big one people. We have got to learn it. The rape africa to support europe model doesnt work anymore. We have to pay our own way. It is the biggest challange yet faced by humanity. I say we can. Pay attention to how you spend your labor and creative resources. Each of us matter. What i said about our purchasing decisions mattering palestine in comparison to how powerful are our labor decisions. Productivity. -Original Message- From: Shari sh...@gypsyware.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 Wow, I can't believe the life of the thread I started! Fascinating! And I wuz worried about posting something slightly OT... LOL! Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Creepy 2020
Sorry about the sermon. Also, the stupidity of the text hinting on my blackjack phone. I did not mean to say matters palestine of course... But matters pale in comparison -Original Message- From: Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 10:13 PM Subject: RE: Creepy 2020 I would hope that the economic and ecological and resource and energy catastrophe we are facing (living within) would give us all reason to pause and think deeply about which kind of humanity we want to be. We have seen what skimming and baseless profiteering wrot. We might now think what productivity really means. Ask our selves what typrs of activities actually produce more per hour worked. And more to the point, which activities produce what is nessisary for the production tomorrow of higher productivity. The only way to make more money (unless you want another recession adjustment) is to do only productivity increasing activities. Anything else is fake wealth and will be followed by the inevitable correction. So, are we done ripping eachother off? Can we start acting like we are adults and believe in reality? Consuption does not drive an economy. Consumption results from a healthy productive economy. Revenue and throughput isnt a reliable indicator of productivity. We must have learned this little lesson. It isnt how much money you can funnel towards yourn section of the pie, it is how york section of the pie can grow the whole pie bigger. This is a big one people. We have got to learn it. The rape africa to support europe model doesnt work anymore. We have to pay our own way. It is the biggest challange yet faced by humanity. I say we can. Pay attention to how you spend your labor and creative resources. Each of us matter. What i said about our purchasing decisions mattering palestine in comparison to how powerful are our labor decisions. Productivity. -Original Message- From: Shari sh...@gypsyware.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 7/2/2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Creepy 2020 Wow, I can't believe the life of the thread I started! Fascinating! And I wuz worried about posting something slightly OT... LOL! Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.gityasome.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Missing Menu Lines?
Unfortunately, this does not work with Japanese menus. not even with the additions of lprog files in the Mac versions. The menus show fine but the Apple menu must be in English for the other menus to work. Not very professional looking to Japanese. See Bug #5141 Ron On Jul 3, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of cross-platform menubars. You've been tapped on the wrist by Rev's helping hand for MacOSX peculiarities: - Your 'File' menu should end with a separator and Exit/Quit item - on MacOSX, the Quit item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the File button - Your 'Edit' menu should end with a separator and Preferences item - on MacOSX, the Preferences item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the Edit button - Your 'Help' menu should end with a separator and About item - on MacOSX, the About item is in the application menu = Rev will 'move' it for you but still send the menuPick message to the Help button Note that if you don't have a Preferences menu item, you should still put it there, but disable it - Rev will then disable the item in the application menu. See also the Revolution 3.5 User Guide pdf pp 265-266. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com Subject: Missing Menu Lines? To: Revolution Mail List use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 9:31 PM Is there a reason a menubar on OS X hides the last 2 items in each menu? Pretty simple stuff: File Edit Help Page Setup...Cut About Print Copy - Paste Exit Clear On Windows, menus display correctly. On OS X, the last 2 items in every menu are not displayed, and if the Help menu has only 2 items, it is not displayed at all. The only way I can get them to show up is to add 2 separators to the bottom of each menu. Is this expected behavior? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
