Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Hi, I would love to host those teaching materials on a web site :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! On 9 aug 2009, at 06:43, Judy Perry wrote: FWIW, I agree that this is an issue that badly needs current addressing. Can you tell me much about the demographics of your fellow teachers and coworkers? e.g., how old are they, what do they teach, what do they want to do with the software, what sorts of software do they already know how to use, etc.?? Depending upon the answers to these questions, and whether it was in my ability range, I'd be happy to develop teaching materials for them... Let me know... Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Hi Judy, Many thanks for replying to my questions! Now i remember that you have already teach this platform in your classes. :-) Teachers that i have met in Courses, Seminaries and Workshops have the most diverse background and skills: Age: From 25 to 55 Subjects: Language (spanish, english), Math (elemental and advanced), Social Sciences (Economics, Education, Geography, History, Psychology) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Coworkers in the Proyecto Entra 21: http://www.isa.edu.do/isaweb/entra21.html Age: From 30 to 50 Know how to use (and offer classes) of very specific Computer Software: (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Photoshop, etc..) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Ideally, these educational materials and user mail list and user forums should be hosted in runrev site, in many languages (translated by volunteers) so they will be always available from a central place. In theory, most of HyperCard teaching materials should be applicable to this platform, but this would require to adapt them for this new software. Have a nice weekend! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24886376.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
copy audioClip?
I have an audioClip in an old stack for which I've lost the source file. I'd like to use this clip in another stack. Is there a way to copy audioClips from one stack to another? It's been years since I've used them at all, my memory's getting rusty. :) TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copy audioClip?
Richard Gaskin wrote: I have an audioClip in an old stack for which I've lost the source file. I'd like to use this clip in another stack. Is there a way to copy audioClips from one stack to another? It's been years since I've used them at all, my memory's getting rusty. :) Nevermind - turned this up in the archives: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-June/083957.html Looks like the copy command does the trick. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: delete last char in Datagrid
I just had same problem and finally decided NOT to use the datagrid editcell, but to stick to the normal cell behaviour (with focusable propertty of grid template fields on) and to trap the openfield closefield msg at the group level, in the datagrid behavior script. It workds like a charm, with one click (I might need a license for that!). Except.. I'm just opeening up a pbl thread with datagrid.. relative to the order of visit of lines using tabulations (see on list) Robert Trevor DeVore wrote: On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Josep wrote: But how can edit directly the cell of the datagrid without making a doubleclick? This lesson should do what you need. It shows you how to update data in a row (or cell). How Do I Update Data In a Row?: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/5434-How-Do-I-Update-Data-In-a-Row- Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/delete-last-char-in-Datagrid-tp24818097p24886891.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copy audioClip?
Hello Richard, Try this copy audioCLip coolsound.wav of stack untitled 1 to stack Untitled 2 Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com -- On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I have an audioClip in an old stack for which I've lost the source file. I'd like to use this clip in another stack. Is there a way to copy audioClips from one stack to another? It's been years since I've used them at all, my memory's getting rusty. :) Nevermind - turned this up in the archives: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-June/083957.html Looks like the copy command does the trick. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Hi Al, What sorts of things would your colleagues like to be able to do with Rev? Thanks, Judy On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, capellan wrote: Hi Judy, Many thanks for replying to my questions! Now i remember that you have already teach this platform in your classes. :-) Teachers that i have met in Courses, Seminaries and Workshops have the most diverse background and skills: Age: From 25 to 55 Subjects: Language (spanish, english), Math (elemental and advanced), Social Sciences (Economics, Education, Geography, History, Psychology) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Coworkers in the Proyecto Entra 21: http://www.isa.edu.do/isaweb/entra21.html Age: From 30 to 50 Know how to use (and offer classes) of very specific Computer Software: (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Photoshop, etc..) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Ideally, these educational materials and user mail list and user forums should be hosted in runrev site, in many languages (translated by volunteers) so they will be always available from a central place. In theory, most of HyperCard teaching materials should be applicable to this platform, but this would require to adapt them for this new software. Have a nice weekend! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24886376.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[datagrid] bug? TAB navigation follows INDEX order instead of LINE order
Hi , I finally solved the problem so far, but in a trick-diry way, and I wondered if I was the only one to have experienced this problem. problem is : on adding a line to the datagrid. The inserted line is IGNORED by tabulation. And it cannot be hilited (visaully the hiliting just bounces on it until next line! In detail : I selectHilite the line before (Line), but add a line from the next one since it is inserted before (Line+1), the new line gets in position Line+1 with an index (total lines+1), the former line+1 becomes line+2. - When I tab from line LINE the tab jumps to line+2. - I f I keep on tabbing, it goes past the latest line.. and back to the new line+1 So temporalrily, the normal tabulation follows line numbering is out and the tabulation follows index.. Solution is : I noticed, that, this behavior would stop and the normal line to line tabulations work again as soon as the list is reconstructed on the screen... So adding a line, then adding a character at the end of line LINE, then deleting it, and then tab does the trick so far.. tab goes to the new line+1 and tab navigation is restored. but I suspect it not the most efficient way to walk around.. this bug could have other consequences. -- Trevor do you have a clue on what's going on there? -- have other people moniteroed this? (have looked into forums but saw nothing of the sort.. ) thanks all Robert -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-datagrid--bug--TAB-navigation-follows-INDEX-order-instead-of-LINE-order-tp24887075p24887075.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A Slightly More Complex revLet Question
I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server instead of the desktop. Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this will save them a lot of money. My question is: I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet. In fact, this is going rather smoothly. The problem is that the data to fill the fields comes from a SQL server. I assume that I'm going to need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get the results back from. Will this require a connect/disconnect every time I need to get data? Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to receive a query and return tab delimited records? Better still, can I connect from my revLet and keep the connection open and talk to the server directly from the revLet? As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the revLet than I've seen talked about here. Any help and/or advice would be appreciated. Len Morgan KTTK, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question
Hi Len, Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I use PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't allow a direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client. Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction speed significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly, without cgi/irev/php. You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a query from your client and executes it. I would consider this rather insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries gets full control over your database. You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server and send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a desktop standalone. Why is this complex? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! On 9 aug 2009, at 18:43, Len Morgan wrote: I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server instead of the desktop. Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this will save them a lot of money. My question is: I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet. In fact, this is going rather smoothly. The problem is that the data to fill the fields comes from a SQL server. I assume that I'm going to need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get the results back from. Will this require a connect/disconnect every time I need to get data? Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to receive a query and return tab delimited records? Better still, can I connect from my revLet and keep the connection open and talk to the server directly from the revLet? As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the revLet than I've seen talked about here. Any help and/or advice would be appreciated. Len Morgan KTTK, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question
The particular customer would have the web server farm and SQL Server (Microsoft's) in the same server room so security shouldn't be an issue unless the revlet can somehow be broken into on the client end. Most of the end users have trouble spelling G.E.D. so this is a minimal risk but it is there. Perhaps I AM making it more complicated (in my head) than it really is. I'll have to use ODBC because we don't have either other DB Driver that can speak to a SQL Server. My immediate issue is they would like to see some sort of demonstration of what's possible (after all, the app I'm trying to replace was written over a 10 year period!) not the finished product. Therefore, I'd like to upload the sample program to my on-Rev account and have them access the data on my desktop computer at home (which has a SQL Server and some old data on it). I don't offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I have no problems with them accessing the data directly for a limited time and I don't think they will have a problem with this revLet accessing THEIR SQL Server if they decide to green-light the project. I'll do some playing around with it. Len Morgan KTTK, Inc. Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Len, Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I use PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't allow a direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client. Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction speed significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly, without cgi/irev/php. You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a query from your client and executes it. I would consider this rather insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries gets full control over your database. You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server and send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a desktop standalone. Why is this complex? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! On 9 aug 2009, at 18:43, Len Morgan wrote: I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server instead of the desktop. Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this will save them a lot of money. My question is: I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet. In fact, this is going rather smoothly. The problem is that the data to fill the fields comes from a SQL server. I assume that I'm going to need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get the results back from. Will this require a connect/disconnect every time I need to get data? Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to receive a query and return tab delimited records? Better still, can I connect from my revLet and keep the connection open and talk to the server directly from the revLet? As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the revLet than I've seen talked about here. Any help and/or advice would be appreciated. Len Morgan KTTK, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
capellan wrote: Ideally, these educational materials and user mail list and user forums should be hosted in runrev site, in many languages (translated by volunteers) so they will be always available from a central place. The scripting conference stacks would be a natural source of materials if someone wants to translate them. These stacks teach the basics of Revolution and assume no prior knowledge. I'd be happy to host them on my web site alongside the English versions. You can download them here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revscriptconf/scriptingconferences.html The stacks are mirrored at my site with the permission of Runtime, since there are no direct links any more on the RR site. Please feel free to download, translate, and send back the materials to me off list, and I will put them up for you. I'm fairly sure that RR would also post them to the RR site, but there may not be any direct link there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question
Len- Sunday, August 9, 2009, 11:01:18 AM, you wrote: old data on it). I don't offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I have no problems with them accessing the data directly for a limited I believe this is configurable at the server end (and if their IT folks are on the ball they will have changed it) but by default SQL Server uses ports 1433 (TCP) and 1434 (UDP). HTH. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Franklin 3D for Revolution Update
Hello all, A quick update on Franklin 3D - the 3D game and rendering engine for Revolution. We are going to be able to expose Franklin 3D for Revolution very soon to founders - I want one more example stack update. We have demo stack just about ready - some tasty bits: - Rendering includes OpenGL, two software renderers and Direct X 9 (Windows only) - Loading a Quake Map - Unnative UI (there is a UI engine built right into it) - 2D sprite engine - Collision detection/gravity - Custom Scene Nodes - Movement - Terrain Rendering - Rendering to Texture - Split Screens (more to come on this - shows multi camera views - maybe multiplayer games...) Some of the effects aren't quite right yet, that's why the delay. That's the first batch of examples. There's one in the works that show how to handle call backs - several more coming. The demo stack will let you locate the media folder, select windows size, select renderer. Here's my top five Why This is Cool: - hardware accelerated graphics - both 3D AND 2D - lots of model formats supported, game and not game (like OBJ) - OpenGL gives you a great cross-platform option when the Mac OS X version is available - A lot of stuff like collision detection/gravity is REALLY easy - Useful for simulations, 3D viewers for graphics catalogs and more Founders will be able to pre-order, get codes right away and get into a private Google Group. Licenses will include 12 months of updates. The licensing system will be very similar to how Valentina works. Ill post other details soon. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question
Len,
FWIW, I would recommend going the PHP route (or any server side
language). That way you will never have to worry about a firewall, and
won't have to maintain any sort of database connectivity from inside a
browser. Do revLets support ODBC?
You can just say something like:
put url http://myserver.com/db.php?query=clientdataparam1=george;
into georgeData
On the server:
mysql-connect(..)
$query = $_GET[query]
switch ($query) {
case clientdata
$sql = SELECT * FROM clients WHERE username =
'.$_GET['param1'].';
break;
...
}
$data = mysql-query(..);
...
Maintenance becomes very easy. One line on the client to make a query,
just write the PHP script once and add queries as you need them.
The particular customer would have the web server farm and SQL
Server (Microsoft's) in the same server room so security shouldn't
be an issue unless the revlet can somehow be broken into on the
client end. Most of the end users have trouble spelling G.E.D. so
this is a minimal risk but it is there. Perhaps I AM making it more
complicated (in my head) than it really is. I'll have to use ODBC
because we don't have either other DB Driver that can speak to a SQL
Server.
My immediate issue is they would like to see some sort of
demonstration of what's possible (after all, the app I'm trying to
replace was written over a 10 year period!) not the finished
product. Therefore, I'd like to upload the sample program to my on-
Rev account and have them access the data on my desktop computer at
home (which has a SQL Server and some old data on it). I don't
offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I have no problems with
them accessing the data directly for a limited time and I don't
think they will have a problem with this revLet accessing THEIR SQL
Server if they decide to green-light the project.
I'll do some playing around with it.
Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.
Mark Schonewille wrote:
Hi Len,
Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is
indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I
use PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't
allow a direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client.
Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't
think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction
speed significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly,
without cgi/irev/php.
You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a
query from your client and executes it. I would consider this
rather insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries
gets full control over your database.
You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server
and send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a
desktop standalone.
Why is this complex?
--
Best regards,
Mark Schonewille
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post command
Hello, I have a big problem put fld myFld into Myvar post Myvar to http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/test.php; the php script doesn't takeUp the variable MyVar If I send a text from a form in a web page onto the test.php script, the text is taken by the php script what is wrong ? Thanks. Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command
Yves, What is the contents of your field? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! On 9 aug 2009, at 22:45, Yves COPPE wrote: Hello, I have a big problem put fld myFld into Myvar post Myvar to http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/test.php; the php script doesn't takeUp the variable MyVar If I send a text from a form in a web page onto the test.php script, the text is taken by the php script what is wrong ? Thanks. Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command
Le 09-août-09 à 22:49, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Yves, What is the contents of your field? re, text fld text tab text tab text text tab text tab text text tab text tab text about 10 lines Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command
Yves, First of all, you need to define a variable. Without variables, php isn't even aware that you tried to send something. Second, you need to urlEncode your data. For example: put myVar= urlEncode(fld myFld) into myString post myString to url http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/test.php; If you have multiples variables, myString should be of the following format: myVar1= myData1 myVar2= myData2 where myDataX is urlEncoded. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! On 9 aug 2009, at 22:56, Yves COPPE wrote: re, text fld text tab text tab text text tab text tab text text tab text tab text about 10 lines Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command
Le 09-août-09 à 23:12, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Yves, First of all, you need to define a variable. Without variables, php isn't even aware that you tried to send something. Second, you need to urlEncode your data. For example: put myVar= urlEncode(fld myFld) into myString post myString to url http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/ test.php If you have multiples variables, myString should be of the following format: myVar1= myData1 myVar2= myData2 where myDataX is urlEncoded. re Mark, yesss ! it works !! thank you very much Bonjour from Belgium ! Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command
Please remember that a 'variable' in Rev is not the same as a
'variable' in a POST command sent to a PHP script.
The PHP script parses the *single string* that is passed into the
following:
pairs of names and values...
the name of the variable PHP will use, the string value of the variable
Send this from Rev flower=roseplant=treeshrub=Arbor%20Vitae
( the %20 represents a valid space character to PHP)
--
put flower=roseplant=treeshrub=Arbor%20Vitae into stringToSend
post to http://thisdomain.com/landscaping/inventory.php;
PHP *parses* this incoming string to (case sensitive)
$flower with a value of rose
$plant with a value of tree
$shrub with a value of Arbor Vitae
but not $Shrub or $sHrub or $shruB
Trying to refer to $Shrub if it is not defined will produce and error
and stop the PHP script execution.
PHP will render the error message as part of your visible web page.
To pass an array, you need to (in Rev) convert the array to a single
string with delimiters, pass this to PHP, and then run script lines in
PHP to convert the string into an array (usually using a series of the
'explode' function)
If a stack has a card for each {guitar, drum}
and a field listing {Flaminco, 400 and Stratocaster,3000}{snare,150
base,350 tympani,2900}
An example string sent to PHP
build the string and then choose a name for the PHP script to use as
the variable
*note, you must pass the legal variable name for PHP, and it needs to
match the name that the PHP script will use to work with the variable.
musicArr=guitar~Flaminco,400^Stratocaster,3000|drum~snare,150^base,
350^tympani,2900
//PHP allows multi dimensional arrays, so we need to build it from the
string
$instruments = explode('|', $musicArr);
then you explode each instrument and add it to the $instruments array
then you explode each listed kind (Flaminco) and add it to the
$instruments array
and set the value at the same time = with the price (eg $2900
for the tympani)
The result is one PHP variable that is a multidimensional array such
that
$price = $instruments['guitar']['Stratocaster'] // 3000
$price = $instruments['drum']['tympani'] // 2900
Fun and games and a little bit of stress.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Yves,
First of all, you need to define a variable. Without variables, php
isn't even aware that you tried to send something. Second, you need
to urlEncode your data. For example:
put myVar= urlEncode(fld myFld) into myString
post myString to url http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/
test.php
If you have multiples variables, myString should be of the following
format:
myVar1= myData1 myVar2= myData2
where myDataX is urlEncoded.
--
Best regards,
Mark Schonewille
Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com
Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com
and get found!
On 9 aug 2009, at 22:56, Yves COPPE wrote:
re,
text fld
text tab text tab text
text tab text tab text
text tab text tab text
about 10 lines
Greetings.
Yves COPPE
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Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Judy Perry wrote: What sorts of things would your colleagues like to be able to do with Rev? Actually, it will be better to show them by example: What you could do with Rev in your classes. (Now, i remember Mark Greenberg stacks) Already, i have show them templates for Multiple choice exams, Reading Tests and the kind of tests used in Moodle. Some have asked about SCORM compliance http://www.loaz.com/learning-objects/learning-object-standards-scorm.html and the avalability of training from the source like Adobe and Microsoft offer. (this seems really important and looks related to new requisites of training and actualization for teachers) Jacque, About the conferences, i will look for them for translating, as soon my workload return to normal. Many thanks for your help! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24892045.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
formattedText and Unicode
I've been avoiding using Unicode because of all the difficulties noted here with Rev, and I just haven't needed it. But now I have a bunch of files in which I don't know whether they're UTF-8 or UTF-16, and I don't know which language's character set they use. First, I need to just display these in a field. That would seem simple enough, but I haven't figured out a reliable way to do this without knowing some external information about the files. Use the wrong character set and they look like junk. Then I need to get the formattedText of the field so I can measure distances to line breaks. So far it seems that the formattedText property is limited to ASCII only -- is that correct? Am I just missing something obvious here? I'll continue with my experiments, but if you have any pointers they would be much appreciated. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: post command (typo correction)
Please remember that a 'variable' in Rev is not the same as a
'variable' in a POST command sent to a PHP script.
The PHP script parses the *single string* that is passed into the
following:
pairs of names and values...
the name of the variable PHP will use, the string value of the variable
Send this from Rev flower=roseplant=treeshrub=Arbor%20Vitae
( the %20 represents a valid space character to PHP)
--
put flower=roseplant=treeshrub=Arbor%20Vitae into stringToSend
post stringToSend to http://thisdomain.com/landscaping/inventory.php;
PHP *parses* this incoming string to (case sensitive)
$flower with a value of rose
$plant with a value of tree
$shrub with a value of Arbor Vitae
but not $Shrub or $sHrub or $shruB
Trying to refer to $Shrub if it is not defined will produce and error
and stop the PHP script execution.
PHP will render the error message as part of your visible web page.
To pass an array, you need to (in Rev) convert the array to a single
string with delimiters, pass this to PHP, and then run script lines in
PHP to convert the string into an array (usually using a series of the
'explode' function)
If a stack has a card for each {guitar, drum}
and a field listing {Flaminco, 400 and Stratocaster,3000}{snare,150
base,350 tympani,2900}
An example string sent to PHP
build the string and then choose a name for the PHP script to use as
the variable
*note, you must pass the legal variable name for PHP, and it needs to
match the name that the PHP script will use to work with the variable.
musicArr=guitar~Flaminco,400^Stratocaster,3000|drum~snare,150^base,
350^tympani,2900
//PHP allows multi dimensional arrays, so we need to build it from the
string
$instruments = explode('|', $musicArr);
then you explode each instrument and add it to the $instruments array
then you explode each listed kind (Flaminco) and add it to the
$instruments array
and set the value at the same time = with the price (eg $2900
for the tympani)
The result is one PHP variable that is a multidimensional array such
that
$price = $instruments['guitar']['Stratocaster'] // 3000
$price = $instruments['drum']['tympani'] // 2900
Fun and games and a little bit of stress.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Yves,
First of all, you need to define a variable. Without variables, php
isn't even aware that you tried to send something. Second, you need
to urlEncode your data. For example:
put myVar= urlEncode(fld myFld) into myString
post myString to url http://www.mondomaine.be/dossierscripts/
test.php
If you have multiples variables, myString should be of the following
format:
myVar1= myData1 myVar2= myData2
where myDataX is urlEncoded.
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Mark Schonewille
Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com
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text tab text tab text
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Greetings.
Yves COPPE
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Option Menu Coloring
What (if any) is the property to change the background color of the button with the arrow on an option menu. I set the backgroundcolor but that sets not only the background color of the text but also the background of the arrow button. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've been avoiding using Unicode because of all the difficulties noted here with Rev, and I just haven't needed it. But now I have a bunch of files in which I don't know whether they're UTF-8 or UTF-16, and I don't know which language's character set they use. First, I need to just display these in a field. That would seem simple enough, but I haven't figured out a reliable way to do this without knowing some external information about the files. Use the wrong character set and they look like junk. Don't know if this will help, but Klaus posted a response to Ken Ray in Re: Detecting UTF-8 Encoded Files on 7 Aug. It contains helpful hints about detecting what Unicode file format you're dealing with - I don't know if the tips work universally, but maybe that's a starting place. Then I need to get the formattedText of the field so I can measure distances to line breaks. So far it seems that the formattedText property is limited to ASCII only -- is that correct? Am I just missing something obvious here? I'll continue with my experiments, but if you have any pointers they would be much appreciated. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
Phil Davis wrote: Don't know if this will help, but Klaus posted a response to Ken Ray in Re: Detecting UTF-8 Encoded Files on 7 Aug. It contains helpful hints about detecting what Unicode file format you're dealing with - I don't know if the tips work universally, but maybe that's a starting place. That was just what I needed. Well, mostly anyway. Thanks to Mark Waddingham, Klaus, and Mark Smith for his swapBytes function, now I have some progress here. The code posted below is as far as I've gotten. It displays every test file on my drive almost perfectly, including UTF8 and UTF16 in both big- and little-endian. Two challenges remain: While the glyphs appear to be good, the line spacing is way off. Looking at the same files in TextEdit shows a lot of blank lines, but in the Rev field they're all bunched up together. And second, I've found no way to get the formattedText in any form that looks usable. :( Any tips on those would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the code examples that got me this far. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com -- on mouseUp answer file Selecf a file: if it is empty then exit to top put url (binfile:it) into tData set the unicodeText of fld 1 to RawDataToUTF16(tData) end mouseUp function RawDataToUTF16 pData -- Examine the data to determine encoding: switch case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0 put UTF16BE into tTextEncoding break case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0xFE and charToNum(char 2 of pData) = 0xFF delete byte 1 to 2 of pData put UTF16BE into tTextEncoding break case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0xFF and charToNum(char 2 of pData) = 0xFE delete byte 1 to 2 of pData put UTF16LE into tTextEncoding break default put UTF8 into tTextEncoding break end switch -- if tTextEncoding begins with UTF16 then -- Check byte order, swapping if needed: if the processor is x86 then put LE into tHostByteOrder else put BE into tHostByteOrder end if if byte -2 to -1 of tTextEncoding tHostByteOrder then put swapbytes(pData) into pData end if -- Already utf16, so nothing more needs to be done: put pData into tFieldData else -- Convert from utf8 to Rev's native utf16: put uniEncode(pData, UTF8) into tFieldData end if -- return tFieldData end RawDataToUTF16 function swapBytes pString repeat with n = 1 to length(pString) - 1 step 2 put byte n+1 of pString byte n of pString after swappedString end repeat return swappedString end swapBytes ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Enterprises that don't allow foreign exe's
Phil, My 25-years of govt experience tells me that the answer depends upon which agency/department you are referring to. Take DoD for example, they use service-wide encrypted Intranets. They have a list of COTS that are authorized for installation. If your product or related plug- in is not on the list, it takes time and hoops to to get it there. Ed ID Leaders http://idleaders.com On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Phil Davis wrote: Thanks Jim. Good idea. Jim Sims wrote: On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Phil Davis wrote: TIA for any responses. Maybe consulting directly with Kevin might be valuable for you. The Rev web site does (at least did) list a US Gov't agency or two that uses Rev, perhaps some insight might be gained by talking to the people involved with them. sims -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
On 10/08/09 12:06 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Two challenges remain: While the glyphs appear to be good, the line spacing is way off. Looking at the same files in TextEdit shows a lot of blank lines, but in the Rev field they're all bunched up together. And second, I've found no way to get the formattedText in any form that looks usable. :( Richard - do you have any 'sample' files that you'd be willing to share to others prepared to do a bit of further testing/investigation? Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
Terry Judd wrote: On 10/08/09 12:06 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: Two challenges remain: While the glyphs appear to be good, the line spacing is way off. Looking at the same files in TextEdit shows a lot of blank lines, but in the Rev field they're all bunched up together. And second, I've found no way to get the formattedText in any form that looks usable. :( Richard - do you have any 'sample' files that you'd be willing to share to others prepared to do a bit of further testing/investigation? Thanks for asking, Terry. Oddly enough, I can find the most obscure stuff on the web but looking for collections of Unicode sample files has been difficult. Most of the texts I have are from a client, so I'm not at liberty to distribute them. But I found a good trick for generating all sorts of files: if you're a Mac user TextEdit lets you save files in a great many different encodings. I opened up some plain text files here, and saved 'em out various ways in TextEdit. Doesn't help with the multi-lingual stuff, but at least lets you pin down handing different encoding methods -- and in a language I can read. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Edu Ware Revlets
Does anyone have any eduware (even rough cuts) running as revlets? Can you post some URL's? I need to show some people how it works... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Enterprises that don't allow foreign exe's
Thanks so much Ed. Phil Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote: Phil, My 25-years of govt experience tells me that the answer depends upon which agency/department you are referring to. Take DoD for example, they use service-wide encrypted Intranets. They have a list of COTS that are authorized for installation. If your product or related plug-in is not on the list, it takes time and hoops to to get it there. Ed ID Leaders http://idleaders.com On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Phil Davis wrote: Thanks Jim. Good idea. Jim Sims wrote: On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Phil Davis wrote: TIA for any responses. Maybe consulting directly with Kevin might be valuable for you. The Rev web site does (at least did) list a US Gov't agency or two that uses Rev, perhaps some insight might be gained by talking to the people involved with them. sims -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Array Question
Can you use a variable name as the index of an array? It doesn't appear so or I'm doing something wrong. Here's what I'm trying: put 1 into tasks[Search] put 2 into tasks[Reports] then in a menuPick handler: on menuPick pChoice goto cd tasks[pChoice] end menuPick I need to do this because I have more cards than I have menu choices and they are intermixed with the real ones and I don't want the user to go directly to these hidden cards. Am I going to have to resort to a do command? I tried that quickly but it just gave me an error. len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Array Question
Len Morgan wrote: Can you use a variable name as the index of an array? It doesn't appear so or I'm doing something wrong. Here's what I'm trying: put 1 into tasks[Search] put 2 into tasks[Reports] then in a menuPick handler: on menuPick pChoice goto cd tasks[pChoice] end menuPick Hi Len, If your actual script contains goto and not go to, that could be your problem. -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
On 10/08/09 12:28 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I opened up some plain text files here, and saved 'em out various ways in TextEdit. Doesn't help with the multi-lingual stuff, but at least lets you pin down handing different encoding methods -- and in a language I can read. :) OK I'll give that a whirl. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
On 10/08/09 12:06 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Two challenges remain: While the glyphs appear to be good, the line spacing is way off. Looking at the same files in TextEdit shows a lot of blank lines, but in the Rev field they're all bunched up together. And second, I've found no way to get the formattedText in any form that looks usable. :( Any tips on those would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the code examples that got me this far. Richard - any special instructions on what range/variety of characters the text should contain? because I had not trouble with either line spacing or displaying/exporting the formatted text with a chunk of text I tested imported as UTF-8, UTF-16LE and UTF-16BE. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Array Question
Len Morgan wrote: Can you use a variable name as the index of an array? It doesn't appear so or I'm doing something wrong. Here's what I'm trying: put 1 into tasks[Search] put 2 into tasks[Reports] then in a menuPick handler: on menuPick pChoice goto cd tasks[pChoice] end menuPick I need to do this because I have more cards than I have menu choices and they are intermixed with the real ones and I don't want the user to go directly to these hidden cards. Variables will work. Besides the goto issue, where are you filling the array? If it's in the same script as the menupick handler then it needs to be declared as a script local variable at the top of the script: local tasks -- allows all handlers in this script to access it on fillArray put 1 into tasks[Search] put 2 into tasks[Reports] end fillArray on menuPick pChoice if the keys of tasks = then fillArray go to cd tasks[pChoice] end menuPick Otherwise it won't be shared among the script handlers. If you are filling the tasks array in a different script, then you either need to make it a global variable or store it in a custom property (or property set) which you load into the tasks variable when you need it. In other words, there must be some way for all handlers to get access to the tasks variable. When it is only referenced within a handler, the variable will be set to empty when the handler begins and deleted when the handler ends. If your stack design allows it, it's often easier to just name cards the same as the menu items. Since card names aren't visible to the user, you can call them anything, and then all you need to do is: on menuPick pChoice go cd pChoice end menuPick It's a good idea to set the navigationArrows property to false if you don't want users paging through cards via the keyboard. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
In Mark Wieder's example I had mistakenly thought that he was converting Unicode line endings only for his PC-specific storage needs. Turns out that this is needed to display as well (though I'm still not sure why it should be necessary). So here's the latest function for putting binary data from a file into a form suitable for tucking into the unicodeText of a field: function RawDataToUTF16 pData -- Examine the data to determine encoding: switch case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0 put UTF16BE into tTextEncoding break case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0xFE and charToNum(char 2 of pData) = 0xFF delete byte 1 to 2 of pData put UTF16BE into tTextEncoding break case charToNum(byte 1 of pData) = 0xFF and charToNum(char 2 of pData) = 0xFE delete byte 1 to 2 of pData put UTF16LE into tTextEncoding break default put UTF8 into tTextEncoding break end switch -- if tTextEncoding begins with UTF16 then -- Check byte order, swapping if needed: if the processor is x86 then put LE into tHostByteOrder else put BE into tHostByteOrder end if if byte -2 to -1 of tTextEncoding tHostByteOrder then put swapbytes(pData) into pData end if -- Already utf16, so nothing more needs to be done: #put uniEncode(uniDecode(pData, utf16),16) into tFieldData put pData into tFieldData else -- Convert from utf8 to Rev's native utf16: put uniEncode(pData, UTF8) into tFieldData end if -- replace CRLF with cr in tFieldData replace numtochar(13) with cr in tfieldData return tFieldData end RawDataToUTF16 I still don't have a solution for using formattedText with Unicode, but may be able to find an algorithm for what I'm doing which bypasses that. Many thanks are due to Devin Asay. His summary notes here are a helpful introduction to working with Unicode in Rev: http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/unicodeInRev.php PS: While having this solution is cool, and seems to reliably handle a wider range of files than even TextEdit does in its automatic mode, I find myself thinking there should be an easier way to do something as simple as putting text into a field. Maybe Rev 5.0? :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formattedText and Unicode
Terry Judd wrote: Richard - any special instructions on what range/variety of characters the text should contain? because I had not trouble with either line spacing or displaying/exporting the formatted text with a chunk of text I tested imported as UTF-8, UTF-16LE and UTF-16BE. Thanks for looking into this, Terry. Not sure why I was having line endings not showing, but the latest version of the function which now replaces platform-specific line endings with Rev-native (Unix, CR) line endings works a treat. Anyone with more experience have any idea why line endings would be only sometimes problematic with Unicode? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
