Re: RevMedia Woes

[Hugh Senior]

"Plugin failed to load."


/H


Alejandro wrote:

> I noticed that this revlet runs faster too:
> http://capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html

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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

[Yves COPPE]

Le 30 oct. 09 à 00:34, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list
When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of  
the 5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get  
such a message :

An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 43F. 
10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically  
post error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?





Re,

mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 on an intel Core 2 duo macBook


Groetjes.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Revlet Woes - Substacks Don't Open

[Richmond Mathewson]

capellan wrote:

Richmond, visit this page (A simple paint stack) and explain us
if you apply use the same method with your stacks:

http://revmedia.runrev.com/revWeb-samples/sketch/

Alejandro
  

Yum!

"The Tools palette and the drawing canvas are two stacks, each presented 
within its own layer"


I have downloaded the source and will crack it open tomorrow as have 
classes all today:

this certainly looks like "a way forward".

My main grumble is that I have a keyboard layout on my main stack which 
should be masked
repeatedly by a large number of substacks offering further keyboard 
layouts. I don't know whether

your 2 stacks, each in their own layer, can be set o overlap each other.

Anyway; I do suddenly feel somewhat less belligerent . . .  :)
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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

[Jim Kanter]

Using Mac OSX 10.6.1 (Snow Leopard) I've not ben able to install the
4.0 versions in anything other than the default folder used by the
easy installation mode (gives error 3). Installing it in the default
location (The Applications folder on Mac) then moving it to a
subfolder results in the app not starting up completely.

Jim

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:34 PM, J. Landman Gay
 wrote:
> Yves COPPE wrote:
>>
>> Hi list
>>
>>
>> When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of the 5
>> pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get such a message :
>>
>> An error occured installing the product
>> To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 43F.10FC
>> Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically post error
>> information to Revolution
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Re: RevMedia Woes

[J. Landman Gay]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
offer to send a copy of your stack so they can try it, I get the feeling 
there might be something in it that's causing the problem.





Actually, now that I look at it, you don't even have to offer. There's 
an attachment button on that page, just pop the stack in there.


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Re: RevMedia Woes

[J. Landman Gay]

David Coker wrote:

After additional testing I found that it would crash IE, only if
running from the web server, yet it would play the same stack from the
containing folder on my hard-drive without the crash.


The team is polishing the plugin and looking for bugs right now, so it 
would be good to tell them about it. Those are unusual symptoms. Also 
offer to send a copy of your stack so they can try it, I get the feeling 
there might be something in it that's causing the problem.




I'm sure they'd want to hear about this.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Thomas McGrath III]

I can not stop laughing. You are freaking awesome , Dude. I  
love it..



, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off  
as I am by my negative flack and releasing a version
where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut- 
up . . .:)


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Re: Autocomplete field

[capellan]

Hi Peter,

Many thanks for posting this handler.
Filtering the search results is a
great idea! Thanks again.

Looks like your handler was cut-off,
because the rawKeydown handler
does not had a closing match.

While running this handler, i always get
the word "sEntryBuffer" in the field "enterPt"
and could not erase the content using
backspace or delete keys.

Obviously, i am doing something wrong.
Could you point me where is my error?

Notice that to run this handler i created
a global named pList that contains the
names list and changed the part of the
script where it reads "ptList":
put ptList into selectedPts (changed to:)
put pList into selectedPts

Thanks in advance.

Alejandro


Peter Brigham MD wrote:
> 
> 
> I modified your code to include filtering the displayed list. Works  
> like a charm, very elegant. Great timing, too, since your solution met  
> a need I just discovered I had
> Note comments marked with  --##
> (watch line wraps)
> 
> # match name as user types
> on rawKeyDown pWhich
> if the commandKey is down then pass rawKeyDown
> # exclude any functions like copy, paste, etc.
> if pWhich <= 255 then # for anything that's in ascii range
>put the selectedChunk into tSelChunk
>if word 2 of tSelChunk <= word 4 of tSelChunk then
># adding a char to the end of the entry buffer
>   put sEntryBuffer & numToChar(pWhich) into sEntryBuffer
>else # inserting a char inside the entry buffer
>   put numToChar(pWhich) after char word 4 of tSelChunk of
> sEntryBuffer
>   put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
>end if
>--## I added the following two lines
>--## pList is a global containing the full list of names
>put pList into selectedPts
>filter selectedPts with sEntryBuffer & "*"
>--## now selectedPts contains only those entries that match
>--## this shortens & simplifies the display list
>put lineOffset(cr & sEntryBuffer, cr & selectedPts) into
> currentLine
>if currentLine > 0 then
>   put selectedPts into fld "pList"
>   --## instead of putting the whole list into the field
> showUserList
>   set the hilitedLines of field "pList" to currentLine
>   set the scroll of field "pList" to \
>   (currentLine - 1) * the effective textHeight of field "pList"
>   put the selectedText of fld "pList" into fld "enterPt"
>   select char (word 2 of tSelChunk) + 1 to -1 of fld "enterPt"
>else
>   hide fld "pList"
>   set the hilitedline of fld "pList" to 0
>   put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
>   select after char word 4 of tSelChunk + 1 of fld "enterPt"
>end if
> else # handle all other keys
> 
> -- Peter
> 

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Re: Drag/Move Cursor?

[Rick Harrison]

Hi Richard,

Thank you for the quick, and accurate response!

It figures that it was the very last item listed when
I searched for "Mouse".  I didn't expect the word
"screen" to be a part of it.

Thanks again,

Rick

On Oct 29, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


set the screenMouseLoc to the screenLoc



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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Terry Judd]

On 30/10/09 11:31 AM, "Richard Gaskin"  wrote:

>> 
> Did I miss that in his post, or is it mentioned in a Read Me somewhere,
> or is there merely a misunderstanding about the scope of things still
> being worked on and they do indeed intend to allow opening stacks in a
> new window?

See Q 03 at...

http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/troubleshooting/

... Although this does not rule out non-plugin windows (other than ask and
answer dialogs) in future versions.

Terry...

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richard Gaskin]

Richard Miller wrote:

In the "known issues" section 
(http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/) 
covering Revmedia, it is stated that "go in window of stack" will be 
fixed shortly. What do you interpret this functionality to mean?


That's a good question.  Traditionally "go  in window of " 
is a way of using a single window to display more than one stack.  In 
the context of the plugin I would imagine that to work similarly, 
providing the ability to use a single plugin instance to not just 
navigate between cards in a stack, but also different stacks.


My post was a reply to Richmond's comment lamenting the loss of 
palettes, but in reviewing this thread I can't find where Kevin said 
that was going away.


Did I miss that in his post, or is it mentioned in a Read Me somewhere, 
or is there merely a misunderstanding about the scope of things still 
being worked on and they do indeed intend to allow opening stacks in a 
new window?


Malte made some interesting points; I especially like this phrase:

   Actually for me it was a real Revolution to be able to
   break out of the browser box from within the browser.

I still think there are some potential usability issues with this and I 
 don't know for sure if there's a way the plugin can determine whether 
its running in the browser's current tab (I don't think so, but it would 
be nice to have and even better if it could be done without polling a JS 
function).


But I prefer a gun, a bullet, and a map to my foot more than 
limitations, so if they can provide it I'm sure it'll result in some 
interesting apps.


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Re: Drag/Move Cursor?

[Richard Gaskin]

Rick Harrison wrote:

I've been trying to figure out how to programmatically
move/drag the cursor in a stack to mimic what a human
would do, as a teaching aid.  The documentation is not
very clear on how to accomplish this.

Has anyone done this successfully before, who could
point me in the correct direction?


The screenMouseLoc global property is read/write, e.g.:

 set the screenMouseLoc to the screenLoc

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SummitSoft

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Does anyone have any knowledge of/experience with the company  
SummitSoft? Any information is highly appreciated, both on- and off- 
list.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Richard wrote:

A nice a flourish as those stack windows were, offhand I can't think  
of anything I would truly need to use them for that I can't do with  
a group on the card in a way that looks and feels a bit more like a  
web app.


Well, I must admit I miss them much, especially for business apps.  
This was (and I hope will be at some point) that made Rev shine in  
comparison to flex apps. Actually for me it was a real Revolution to  
be able to break out of the browser box from within the browser. Key  
selling point for one of my clients: Being able to bring up a complex  
modal dialog that blocks the currently running handler until the modal  
dialog is closed. A modal stack that might be bigger than the current  
viewing canvas allows.  No need to refresh the page for it and being  
able to guaranty a minimum window size. This was a real wow effect  
that made one of my clients really want to switch flex made apps to  
rev. With the removal of the feature the rev versions are becoming  
more  unlikely to happen. *sigh*


Throws in a euro cent.

Cheers,

Malte
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Drag/Move Cursor?

[Rick Harrison]

Hi there,

I've been trying to figure out how to programmatically
move/drag the cursor in a stack to mimic what a human
would do, as a teaching aid.  The documentation is not
very clear on how to accomplish this.

Has anyone done this successfully before, who could
point me in the correct direction?

Thanks in advance!

Rick


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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

[J. Landman Gay]

Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list


When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of the 5 
pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get such a message :


An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically post 
error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?

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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[J. Landman Gay]

dunb...@aol.com wrote:


Been a while, I guess. I went back to the few times I worked on this and, 
yes, I used separate stacks that were attached to the "main" stack, but not 
in the stack file.


Well...define "attached". :) To me, that sounds like substacks, which 
are an integral part of the stackfile. Separate independent stacks 
aren't attached, they're free agents in their own files.


Like Richard, I never use the Standalone Builder option that decouples 
substacks. I create independent stacks from the beginning when I know my 
app will have to save data to them. I find it much easier to keep the 
satellite stacks separate during development so that I can ensure my 
file path calculations work, and that the stacks open correctly. I tend 
to embed substacks only for things like dialogs, tool palettes, and 
other application pieces that will never change.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richard Miller]

Richard (or anyone else),

In the "known issues" section 
(http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/) 
covering Revmedia, it is stated that "go in window of stack" will be 
fixed shortly. What do you interpret this functionality to mean? It 
obviously doesn't relate to "go to card x", since that works fine now.


Thanks.
Richard Miller




Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I 
still am very optimistic. We already have something much more than 
the SC plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. 
I understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that.


2 cents
Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off 
as I am by my negative flack and releasing a version
where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut-up . . 
.:)


Maybe my thinking is too conventional on this, but the range of 
potential issues with palettes running from a browser plugin would 
seem to reach beyond the merely technical into the cognitive:


User expectations of the browser experience are well honed from a 
decade of relatively consistent exposure to a common set of 
conventions.  While the content and specific interactions within a 
page will vary from site to site, users are very accustomed to seeing 
things for a specific page within that page, often as movable layers 
but rarely as separate windows.


The benefit to this approach is that it keeps all of a web app's parts 
in one place.  Most users today have multiple tabs open, and it's not 
uncommon for them to switch between them while they're browsing.


If a palette window is opened from a Revlet in one tab, what does that 
palette do when the user switches to another tab?


Presumably it wouldn't attempt to affect anything in the current tab's 
page, but since the page with the Revlet is no longer in view the user 
has no way to know how interacting with the palette will affect what's 
on that page.


In desktop apps, when you switch to another application palettes are 
automatically hidden; they're in front only when the relevant app is 
in front, but once that app goes to the background there's no way to 
use palettes to accidentally alter the content of a window that may 
not be visible.


While browsers provide notification when a page is being closed, I 
don't believe they provide notification when another tab is selected 
(do they?).  This would make it difficult to know when to hide and 
show your  palettes, leaving parts of your app overlaying the rest of 
the browser experience.


Having Revlets open new Rev stack windows was a nifty option, but I'm 
not sure I'll miss it much.  There are more conventional ways to get 
the same benefits, ways that arguably better meet user expectations by 
keeping all of your app's parts together on one page.


A nice a flourish as those stack windows were, offhand I can't think 
of anything I would truly need to use them for that I can't do with a 
group on the card in a way that looks and feels a bit more like a web 
app.


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Re: Autocomplete field

[Peter Brigham MD]

On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:53 PM, capellan wrote:



Hi all,

Visit the webpage:
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test05.html
and download the stack:
http://capellan2000.000space.com/autocomplete_names.zip

I am looking for ideas to make better the code of
these autocomplete fields.


I modified your code to include filtering the displayed list. Works  
like a charm, very elegant. Great timing, too, since your solution met  
a need I just discovered I had

Note comments marked with  --##
(watch line wraps)

# match name as user types
on rawKeyDown pWhich
   if the commandKey is down then pass rawKeyDown
   # exclude any functions like copy, paste, etc.
   if pWhich <= 255 then # for anything that's in ascii range
  put the selectedChunk into tSelChunk
  if word 2 of tSelChunk <= word 4 of tSelChunk then
  # adding a char to the end of the entry buffer
 put sEntryBuffer & numToChar(pWhich) into sEntryBuffer
  else # inserting a char inside the entry buffer
 put numToChar(pWhich) after char word 4 of tSelChunk of  
sEntryBuffer

 put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
  end if
  --## I added the following two lines
  --## pList is a global containing the full list of names
  put ptList into selectedPts
  filter selectedPts with sEntryBuffer & "*"
  --## now selectedPts contains only those entries that match
  --## this shortens & simplifies the display list
  put lineOffset(cr & sEntryBuffer, cr & selectedPts) into  
currentLine

  if currentLine > 0 then
 put selectedPts into fld "pList"
 --## instead of putting the whole list into the field
 showUserList
 set the hilitedLines of field "pList" to currentLine
 set the scroll of field "pList" to \
(currentLine - 1) * the effective textHeight of field  
"pList"

 put the selectedText of fld "pList" into fld "enterPt"
 select char (word 2 of tSelChunk) + 1 to -1 of fld "enterPt"
  else
 hide fld "pList"
 set the hilitedline of fld "pList" to 0
 put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
 select after char word 4 of tSelChunk + 1 of fld "enterPt"
  end if
   else # handle all other keys

-- Peter

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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

[Charles Szasz]

Terry,

Thanks! I will try it out windows to see if it shows up correctly!


Terry Judd wrote:
> 
> It's numToChar(168) on the Mac and numToChar(174) on Windows if that's any
> help.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 30/10/09 7:18 AM, "Charles Szasz"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Thanks Colin! 
>> 
>> I am aware of the shortcut (Option + 2) but I did not know if Revolution
>> would support this in fields on both the Mac and Windows. I had checked
>> Rev's Dictionary and did not find any listing for it.
>>  
>> 
>> Colin Holgate-2 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:
>>> 
 
 How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter
 inside it) in
 a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product
 with its
 trademark.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Usually there's a keyboard shortcut for doing that. On Mac it's
>>> Option-2 () for trademark, Option-r (®) for registered mark, Option-g
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Re: RevMedia Portable

[Mark Wieder]

Alejandro-

Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:45:55 PM, you wrote:

> Although i understand that is really useful to
> have portable editions of enterprise or studio, 
> i talk about portable editions of RevMedia's
> free versions.

I understand. But I think the porability issues are the same, or maybe
even easier to implement in RevMedia.

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Re: Re-2: RevMedia Portable

[Mark Wieder]

Matthias-

Thursday, October 29, 2009, 2:50:45 PM, you wrote:

> I  am also asking for a U3 version now since 2.9.
> I asked support several times, but was finally told

> "Given the very small numbers of people who appear to be using this platform, 
> I
> think it unlikely that it will be cost effective for us to do this build."

I think in September I finally got it into Mark's head that what I was
after was not u3 in particular, but portability as an issue. Whether
that will actually result in any new build remains to be seen. Mark
seemed to think that it was a minor matter of compiler tweaks,
although that may have changed with later builds, and the team has its
hands full at the moment with the 4.0 release. I wouldn't hold my
breath waiting for a new portable build.

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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[Richard Gaskin]

DunbarX wrote:
So the standalone maker creates a new kind of stackfile, the standalone, 
which contains the various stacks that were attached. I get it now. I hope I 
remember it.


This is one of those areas where it's much like HyperCard:  the runtime 
engine gets bound to the stack file to make the standalone.


The big difference is that HC only ran on Classic, where the runtime 
engine code was stored in the resource fork and the OS had no 
restriction on that code modifying the data fork.


On OS X, Windows, and Unix/Linux, an executable file cannot modify 
itself, so Rev standalones can't save changes to their own file.


But as Jacque noted, you can set up the Standalone Settings to break out 
substacks into separate stackfiles at build time, so you can keep 
everything in one file while you're working and still have them as 
modifiable "satellite" stacks at runtime.


Personally, I like to minimize the differences between development and 
runtime when I'm working to avoid any unexpected gotchas in deployment, 
where diagnosing things is much harder of course because there's no IDE.


So I tend to break out any separate stackfiles up front rather than 
leaving it to the Standalone Builder; it means I need to be more 
conscientious when saving, but also means my dev setup more closely 
matches my runtime, so hopefully if there are any issues in finding 
files I'll know it in the environment where I can debug it conveniently.


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Re: Revlet Woes - Substacks Don't Open

[capellan]

Richmond, visit this page (A simple paint stack) and explain us
if you apply use the same method with your stacks:

http://revmedia.runrev.com/revWeb-samples/sketch/

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richard Gaskin]

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I still 
am very optimistic. We already have something much more than the SC 
plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. I 
understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that.


2 cents
Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off as I 
am by my negative flack and releasing a version

where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut-up . . .:)


Maybe my thinking is too conventional on this, but the range of 
potential issues with palettes running from a browser plugin would seem 
to reach beyond the merely technical into the cognitive:


User expectations of the browser experience are well honed from a decade 
of relatively consistent exposure to a common set of conventions.  While 
the content and specific interactions within a page will vary from site 
to site, users are very accustomed to seeing things for a specific page 
within that page, often as movable layers but rarely as separate windows.


The benefit to this approach is that it keeps all of a web app's parts 
in one place.  Most users today have multiple tabs open, and it's not 
uncommon for them to switch between them while they're browsing.


If a palette window is opened from a Revlet in one tab, what does that 
palette do when the user switches to another tab?


Presumably it wouldn't attempt to affect anything in the current tab's 
page, but since the page with the Revlet is no longer in view the user 
has no way to know how interacting with the palette will affect what's 
on that page.


In desktop apps, when you switch to another application palettes are 
automatically hidden; they're in front only when the relevant app is in 
front, but once that app goes to the background there's no way to use 
palettes to accidentally alter the content of a window that may not be 
visible.


While browsers provide notification when a page is being closed, I don't 
believe they provide notification when another tab is selected (do 
they?).  This would make it difficult to know when to hide and show your 
 palettes, leaving parts of your app overlaying the rest of the browser 
experience.


Having Revlets open new Rev stack windows was a nifty option, but I'm 
not sure I'll miss it much.  There are more conventional ways to get the 
same benefits, ways that arguably better meet user expectations by 
keeping all of your app's parts together on one page.


A nice a flourish as those stack windows were, offhand I can't think of 
anything I would truly need to use them for that I can't do with a group 
on the card in a way that looks and feels a bit more like a web app.


--
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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

[Terry Judd]

It's numToChar(168) on the Mac and numToChar(174) on Windows if that's any
help.

Terry...


On 30/10/09 7:18 AM, "Charles Szasz"  wrote:

> 
> Thanks Colin! 
> 
> I am aware of the shortcut (Option + 2) but I did not know if Revolution
> would support this in fields on both the Mac and Windows. I had checked
> Rev's Dictionary and did not find any listing for it.
>  
> 
> Colin Holgate-2 wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter
>>> inside it) in
>>> a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product
>>> with its
>>> trademark.
>> 
>> 
>> Usually there's a keyboard shortcut for doing that. On Mac it's
>> Option-2 () for trademark, Option-r (®) for registered mark, Option-g
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Re-2: RevMedia Portable

[runrev260805]

I  am also asking for a U3 version now since 2.9.
I asked support several times, but was finally told

"Given the very small numbers of people who appear to be using this platform, I
think it unlikely that it will be cost effective for us to do this build."

If there is still demand for an U3 version, maybe we should collect the names 
of the interested persons to send the list with a petition to runrev, so they 
exactly know how much peoples would work with that platform.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: RevMedia Portable (29-Okt-2009 22:12)
From:Mark Wieder 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Alejandro-
> 
> Thursday, October 29, 2009, 11:30:55 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Actually, just as you stated, the purpose is to use the IDE from
> > any Windows computer, without rebooting.
> 
> I've been on Mark Waddingham's case about this literally for years
> now. There's the u3 version 2.74, but it's quite outdated by now. Mark
> claims that it shouldn't be a big deal to build another portable
> version, but there doesn't seem to be any rush to do so. Having to
> install my Enterprise license on my clients' machines in order to get
> work done is getting to be a pain.
> 
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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[DunbarX]

Jacques.

Been a while, I guess. I went back to the few times I worked on this and, 
yes, I used separate stacks that were attached to the "main" stack, but not 
in the stack file. Thanks for the review.

So the standalone maker creates a new kind of stackfile, the standalone, 
which contains the various stacks that were attached. I get it now. I hope I 
remember it.

Craig


In a message dated 10/29/09 5:26:09 PM, jac...@hyperactivesw.com writes:


> It's the opposite. No substacks can be saved if they are in the main
> stackfile. "Substack" is a specific Revolution term; it means a stack
> that is embedded in the same file on disk as the main stack. Nothing in
> that stackfile can be saved once it is turned into a standalone.
> 

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Re: RevMedia Portable

[capellan]

Hi Mark,

Although i understand that is really useful to 
have portable editions of enterprise or studio, 
i talk about portable editions of RevMedia's
free versions.

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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[J. Landman Gay]

dunb...@aol.com wrote:
I ran into this. As someone said to me, "don't fret, nobody can save to a 
single stack standalone".


You have to have a "mainstack" be a sort of splash screen, or it can even 
be invisible to the user. Substacks, or any other stacks (I do not think they 
have to be actual substacks, as long as they are in the stack file), can 
then be saved. So you never actually use the "mainStack" for anything except 
as an umbrella for the real, working "substacks".


It's the opposite. No substacks can be saved if they are in the main 
stackfile. "Substack" is a specific Revolution term; it means a stack 
that is embedded in the same file on disk as the main stack. Nothing in 
that stackfile can be saved once it is turned into a standalone.


The rest of what you say is true. Turn the mainstack into a standalone, 
and then use it to open other, separate stacks on disk. A stack that is 
not part of the main stackfile will save just fine.


Some Rev terminology, just for clarity:

Stackfile: a single file on disk, which contains a main stack and 
optionally any number of substacks.


Mainstack: the primary stack in a stackfile. If a stackfile contains 
only one stack, it is also the mainstack of the stackfile. If the file 
contains several stacks, only one can be designated as the mainstack. 
When a stackfile opens, the mainstack is what is displayed.


Substack: a separate stack that is embedded into the same file on disk 
as a mainstack. One advantage here is that it can always be found by the 
mainstack or the Rev engine because the entire stackfile loads into RAM 
when a file is opened, which means substacks are always loaded into RAM 
when the mainstack does. The destroystack property has no effect on 
these stacks; they always remain in RAM, though when closed they are not 
in the message path.


Satellite stack: not an official term, but what I personally call other, 
separate stacks on disk that are not part of the main stackfile. 
Satellite stacks are not loaded into RAM unless a script or user 
specifically opens them; in fact, Rev doesn't know they exist until they 
are opened. When they are closed, their status in RAM depends on whether 
their destroystack property is set to true or false. If true, the stack 
is wiped from RAM when it closes.


Some people like to keep all their stacks together in a single stackfile 
for convenience during development. When it is time to save a 
standalone, there is an option in Standalone Settings to separate 
substacks into individual (satellite) stacks on disk. This allows the 
mainstack to save data to its satellite stacks once it becomes a 
standalone. However, note that since the satellite stacks are no longer 
part of the stackfile, some file path calculations may be necessary in 
order to find and open them by script, depending on what your standalone 
does and where they are stored.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

[Yves COPPE]

Hi list


When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of the  
5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get such a  
message :


An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically post  
error information to Revolution


I've sent the error to Revolution more than once (but receive no  
answer) and I have tried again and again to install the application  
but without success !!!



What can I do ?
Do you have any idea to help me ?


Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: RevMedia Portable

[Mark Wieder]

Alejandro-

Thursday, October 29, 2009, 11:30:55 AM, you wrote:

> Actually, just as you stated, the purpose is to use the IDE from
> any Windows computer, without rebooting.

I've been on Mark Waddingham's case about this literally for years
now. There's the u3 version 2.74, but it's quite outdated by now. Mark
claims that it shouldn't be a big deal to build another portable
version, but there doesn't seem to be any rush to do so. Having to
install my Enterprise license on my clients' machines in order to get
work done is getting to be a pain.

-- 
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 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[DunbarX]

I ran into this. As someone said to me, "don't fret, nobody can save to a 
single stack standalone".

You have to have a "mainstack" be a sort of splash screen, or it can even 
be invisible to the user. Substacks, or any other stacks (I do not think they 
have to be actual substacks, as long as they are in the stack file), can 
then be saved. So you never actually use the "mainStack" for anything except 
as an umbrella for the real, working "substacks".

In the "stacks" tab of the standalone settings dialog, you can see that it 
is possible to designate these stacks. It works fine. Just play around a 
bit.

Craig Newman
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How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

[Wilde Electric]

I need help in understanding how RunRev works

I have a single card stack that is saved as a standalone app.

I want to be able to enter information into a field and then execute scripts
that modify scripts of other fields.

This all works until I exit the standalone.  When I start the Standalone
again all of the changes are missing.  The text that was entered into the
field is missing also.

Please advise on what I am sure is very simple to someone.

Best Regards,

David J. Lamp
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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

[Charles Szasz]

Thanks Colin! 

I am aware of the shortcut (Option + 2) but I did not know if Revolution
would support this in fields on both the Mac and Windows. I had checked
Rev's Dictionary and did not find any listing for it.
 

Colin Holgate-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:
> 
>>
>> How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter  
>> inside it) in
>> a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product  
>> with its
>> trademark.
> 
> 
> Usually there's a keyboard shortcut for doing that. On Mac it's  
> Option-2 (™) for trademark, Option-r (®) for registered mark, Option-g  
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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

[Colin Holgate]

On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:



How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter  
inside it) in
a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product  
with its

trademark.



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Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

[Charles Szasz]

How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter inside it) in
a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product with its
trademark.
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Re: Revolution Studio 4.0.0-dp-5

[Richmond Mathewson]

François Chaplais wrote:


Le 28 oct. 2009 à 22:59, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :


This IS available through 'Check for Updates' even thought Kevin
only referred to Enterprise; although whether there is a Linux
build of B4 yet I don't know.


did you manage to actually do the update? I get the "no such file " error


How fascinating: I just tried to update my Studio 4 dp-4 (Mac) again
[working on the theory that God likes a trier . . .   :)  ] and was informed
that there are no updates available. So, from the people who don't
tell us very much I have deduced that there is probably NOT going to
be a studio dp-5 made available.
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Re: RevMedia Woes

[capellan]

Yes, Completely awesome! :D

I noticed that this revlet runs faster too:
http://capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html

Does it means that Runrev made some optimizations
or enhancements specifically oriented to screen redraw?
H, maybe this explain the absence of Palettes and 
substacks in their own window...

Just a wild guess.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richmond Mathewson]

Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I still 
am very optimistic. We already have something much more than the SC 
plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. I 
understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that.


2 cents
Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off as I 
am by my negative flack and releasing a version

where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut-up . . .:)


Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html


On Oct 29, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I cannot believe I am the only programmer who has got him/herself "in 
a stew"

about this.

[Well, I suppose, even if nothing else, many users of this list will 
learn some happy idioms,
similes amd metaphors that are not included in standard EFL courses . 
. .   :) ]


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richmond Mathewson]

Andre Garzia wrote:

Richmond,

you can instantiate the palettes using an embed tag for each palette, then
you can show or hide them with javascript.

it is a hack, but it works now.
  

Well, that is obviously what I will have to do, although it doesn't make
me any happier; especially as I know absolutely no javascript.

Presumably by "embed tag" you are referring to HTML ???


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:

  

Kevin Miller wrote:



Hi everyone,



  

< snip >

 A new revWeb plugin for Windows and OS X (Linux coming soon) is now


available from:

http://revweb.runrev.com/

Major changes:

Plugin has been re-engineered. This is the third and final (for 4.0)
version
of the architecture.

This version resolves most of the short-comings of the previous 'alpha'
version:
   - plugins can now run in multiple browsers simultaneously
   - orphaned processes will not be left around after plugin instances
quit
   - if a plugin causes the engine to crash/exit, the browser will not be
affected
   - system dialogs and answer alerts now layer correctly above the
browser
   - popup menus from option and buttons etc. now function correctly
   - separate 'WebKit' version of the plugin for running under Safari
(therefore 64-bit Safari on Snow Leopard works with the plugin)
   - the plugin works in IE Protected Mode
   - non-Roman languages can now be typed into fields [those requiring
IMEs
(Chinese, Japanese etc.) do not yet work on Mac OS X]



  

"the third and final (for 4.0) version"

so palettised stacks in revlets are totally *...@%&ed in 4.0 !

This is ODD as I was led to understand that the problem with palettised
stack
loading behind the browser window was one of the top-priority problems.

Having attended the RunRev conference in Edinburgh I returned to Bulgaria
confident in the knowledge that I could go ahead with my development of
a program/revlet that uses some 50-ish palettised substacks as at the
release
of 4.0 (about 14 days from now) all would be well.

Beyond that one problem my program worked perfectly as a revlet:
now it is totally useless and can only be developed into a fully-fledged
standalone.
I had intended to release my 'Sanskrit Typewriter' on a Freemium model,
whereby the web-based version was FREE, and the standalone version, with
more features, would be for money; the former attracting folk to buy the
latter. That whole business model is now down the tubes; as is a lot of my
confidence in RunRev's promises, pronouncements and so forth.

One wonders why there has been so much hype about the revWeb 'thing' when,
as development progresses it seems to lose features rather than gain them.

Obviously I am (as my English grandmother used to say) "green as a cabbage
looking."

I cannot believe I am the only programmer who has got him/herself "in a
stew"
about this.

[Well, I suppose, even if nothing else, many users of this list will learn
some happy idioms,
similes amd metaphors that are not included in standard EFL courses . . .
:) ]


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RevMedia Woes

[David Coker]

Hello all,
I enrolled in the RevMedia alpha program several days ago and after
doing a few simple things, I started to see what it would really do...
After building a nice little stack that retrieves text files from my
server, displaying them in an edit box, everything was going fine. I
added a couple of buttons to increase/decrease the font sizes and it
was all working great.

I then asked a friend to install the plugin and give it a try for me.
Unfortunately, it wouldn't work in either IE (crashed it) or Firefox
for him, yet it still worked flawlessly from my end.

After additional testing I found that it would crash IE, only if
running from the web server, yet it would play the same stack from the
containing folder on my hard-drive without the crash. After reading
Kevin's post about the fresh updates yesterday, I re-installed the
newest plugin as well as the new version of RevMedia, rebuilt the app
and re-deployed to the server. It will no longer run from *any* of my
browsers whether from the remote server or from my local drive.

It crashes IE every time and here is the message that is displayed in Firefox:

"There was an error loading the revlet - error processing revlet"

Strangely enough, all of the samples at the RevMedia page still work
in both browsers.

Any ideas?

-David Coker-

BTW, kudos to Rev for this! Once all of the bugs are worked out, it's
gonna be awesome, awesome, awesome!
.did I mention that it will be awesome? :-)
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Re: OT -- AppleScript Help

[Bruce Robertson]

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On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:

I better move this over to the Applescript list (can you send me the  
URL?) because it's turning into a bigger issue: some network  
protocols changed or something and Applescript 2.0.1 running on  
10.5.8 is no longer a happy camper with I/O over the LAN... or the  
way mount points are now configured on the client machine running  
the scripts.. for reasons that are still mysterious. .dunno, I'm no  
expert I'll check with our net/server admin here if any changes/ 
upgrades were made in the last 3 days since these all worked fine on  
Saturday, last...if they upgraded OSX Server to Snow Leopard that  
could be the problem...


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Thomas McGrath III]

Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I still  
am very optimistic. We already have something much more than the SC  
plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. I  
understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that.


2 cents

Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
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On Oct 29, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I cannot believe I am the only programmer who has got him/herself  
"in a stew"

about this.

[Well, I suppose, even if nothing else, many users of this list will  
learn some happy idioms,
similes amd metaphors that are not included in standard EFL  
courses . . .   :) ]


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Re: RevMedia Portable

[capellan]

Actually, just as you stated, the purpose is to use the IDE from
any Windows computer, without rebooting.

About stability, the answer should lie in the hooks that IDE
installation make to Windows OS during installation and use.

Alejandro


Peter Alcibiades wrote:
> 
> Is the aim to have a version you can take with you and use wherever you
> are?  Or is the aim to be able to use the IDE from any computer you find
> around, without rebooting?
> 
> What is it that makes running the IDE from Windows not stable?  I did not
> test for long, but it seemed to run fine on Debian.
> 

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Andre Garzia]

Richmond,

you can instantiate the palettes using an embed tag for each palette, then
you can show or hide them with javascript.

it is a hack, but it works now.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kevin Miller wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
> < snip >
>
>  A new revWeb plugin for Windows and OS X (Linux coming soon) is now
>> available from:
>>
>> http://revweb.runrev.com/
>>
>> Major changes:
>>
>> Plugin has been re-engineered. This is the third and final (for 4.0)
>> version
>> of the architecture.
>>
>> This version resolves most of the short-comings of the previous 'alpha'
>> version:
>>- plugins can now run in multiple browsers simultaneously
>>- orphaned processes will not be left around after plugin instances
>> quit
>>- if a plugin causes the engine to crash/exit, the browser will not be
>> affected
>>- system dialogs and answer alerts now layer correctly above the
>> browser
>>- popup menus from option and buttons etc. now function correctly
>>- separate 'WebKit' version of the plugin for running under Safari
>> (therefore 64-bit Safari on Snow Leopard works with the plugin)
>>- the plugin works in IE Protected Mode
>>- non-Roman languages can now be typed into fields [those requiring
>> IMEs
>> (Chinese, Japanese etc.) do not yet work on Mac OS X]
>>
>>
>>
> "the third and final (for 4.0) version"
>
> so palettised stacks in revlets are totally *...@%&ed in 4.0 !
>
> This is ODD as I was led to understand that the problem with palettised
> stack
> loading behind the browser window was one of the top-priority problems.
>
> Having attended the RunRev conference in Edinburgh I returned to Bulgaria
> confident in the knowledge that I could go ahead with my development of
> a program/revlet that uses some 50-ish palettised substacks as at the
> release
> of 4.0 (about 14 days from now) all would be well.
>
> Beyond that one problem my program worked perfectly as a revlet:
> now it is totally useless and can only be developed into a fully-fledged
> standalone.
> I had intended to release my 'Sanskrit Typewriter' on a Freemium model,
> whereby the web-based version was FREE, and the standalone version, with
> more features, would be for money; the former attracting folk to buy the
> latter. That whole business model is now down the tubes; as is a lot of my
> confidence in RunRev's promises, pronouncements and so forth.
>
> One wonders why there has been so much hype about the revWeb 'thing' when,
> as development progresses it seems to lose features rather than gain them.
>
> Obviously I am (as my English grandmother used to say) "green as a cabbage
> looking."
>
> I cannot believe I am the only programmer who has got him/herself "in a
> stew"
> about this.
>
> [Well, I suppose, even if nothing else, many users of this list will learn
> some happy idioms,
> similes amd metaphors that are not included in standard EFL courses . . .
> :) ]
>
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

[Richmond Mathewson]

Kevin Miller wrote:

Hi everyone,

  

< snip >

A new revWeb plugin for Windows and OS X (Linux coming soon) is now
available from:

http://revweb.runrev.com/

Major changes:

Plugin has been re-engineered. This is the third and final (for 4.0) version
of the architecture.

This version resolves most of the short-comings of the previous 'alpha'
version:
- plugins can now run in multiple browsers simultaneously
- orphaned processes will not be left around after plugin instances quit
- if a plugin causes the engine to crash/exit, the browser will not be
affected
- system dialogs and answer alerts now layer correctly above the browser
- popup menus from option and buttons etc. now function correctly
- separate 'WebKit' version of the plugin for running under Safari
(therefore 64-bit Safari on Snow Leopard works with the plugin)
- the plugin works in IE Protected Mode
- non-Roman languages can now be typed into fields [those requiring IMEs
(Chinese, Japanese etc.) do not yet work on Mac OS X]

  

"the third and final (for 4.0) version"

so palettised stacks in revlets are totally *...@%&ed in 4.0 !

This is ODD as I was led to understand that the problem with palettised 
stack

loading behind the browser window was one of the top-priority problems.

Having attended the RunRev conference in Edinburgh I returned to Bulgaria
confident in the knowledge that I could go ahead with my development of
a program/revlet that uses some 50-ish palettised substacks as at the 
release

of 4.0 (about 14 days from now) all would be well.

Beyond that one problem my program worked perfectly as a revlet:
now it is totally useless and can only be developed into a fully-fledged 
standalone.

I had intended to release my 'Sanskrit Typewriter' on a Freemium model,
whereby the web-based version was FREE, and the standalone version, with
more features, would be for money; the former attracting folk to buy the
latter. That whole business model is now down the tubes; as is a lot of my
confidence in RunRev's promises, pronouncements and so forth.

One wonders why there has been so much hype about the revWeb 'thing' when,
as development progresses it seems to lose features rather than gain them.

Obviously I am (as my English grandmother used to say) "green as a 
cabbage looking."


I cannot believe I am the only programmer who has got him/herself "in a 
stew"

about this.

[Well, I suppose, even if nothing else, many users of this list will 
learn some happy idioms,
similes amd metaphors that are not included in standard EFL courses . . 
.   :) ]


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Proxies - yeah!

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

I just had the chance to test if a revlet can communicate through a  
proxy without the need of setting the http proxy in rev. This appears  
to work for both proxies with and without username and password. It  
appears that the browser does deal with all that stuff, so that seems  
good news over the mourning over the loss of substacks opening in  
their own windows for me. I am still sobbing a bit though.


Thought maybe some of you might want to know about the proxy stuff  
though. :-)


All the best,

Malte
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push notification anyone?

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Hi all,

I am wondering if the following is possible:

revlet opens a socket to a server (works), server then pushes data to  
the revlet and the revlet reacts to the data sent. Has anybody tried  
this yet? I am no communications expert, so I have no idea if anything  
like that would be possible at all. Any pointers and / or code  
snippets highly appreciated.


All the best,

Malte
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Re: [OT] Living in Silicon Valley

[capellan]

Actually, i liked the tv series "Cosmos 1999" :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_1999


Scott Rossi wrote:
> 
> Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the
> unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver
> lining.
> 
> http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/
> 

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Re: Clueless revlet question

[capellan]

Andre, you sound really excited for this new feature.
Can you show us (by examples) what could we do :D
from a revlet to control a browser's webpage?

Thanks in advance.

Alejandro


Andre Garzia-3 wrote:
> 
> do in browser is working? :-O
> 
> rejoice! rejoice! I missed the release of this... boys, we're on to
> some
> wild ride now!
> 

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revupdatechecker.exe

[capellan]

Hi all,

Today, after installing the new version of
the browser plug-in, i noticed that there
is a new process running with the name:
revupdatechecker.exe

Winamp uses an application named winampa.exe
to retain media files association. Actually, they ask
for permission to install this app.
Notice that Rev does not ask me for permission to
install this update mechanism. i hope that this 
is not permanent and works only for Beta releases.

Which other mechanisms (besides running this app
permanently) could Runrev use to alert
the users of new updates for web plugin?

Thanks in advance.

Alejandro
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Re: time processing with data grid form

[Trevor DeVore]

On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:48 AM, mario rossi wrote:


I am using a datagrid form with a query from a db.

The query result is about 1 records.

Each line in the form has an arrow which you can click to expand the  
line and to read other information about the record (with another  
query).


If I set the dgProp[fixed row height] to false (to expand the row)  
the time necessary to populate the datagrid is greater than the  
dgProp[fixed row height] is true. However it takes always a lot of  
time.


Is there another solution to populate the datagrid?

(I tried to use the cursor db and the technique to display large  
amount of data described in bluemango manual, but the result doesn't  
change)


Hi Francesco,

Trying to draw 10,000 records with "fixe row height" set to false is  
going to be a slow process. The Data Grid has to go through every  
single row and determine what the height is before rendering.


You mention that with "fixed row height" set to true it still takes a  
while. By chance do you have "persistent data" checked in the  
properties panel? If so then turn it off. The Data Grid will store all  
10,000 rows in a custom prop of the data grid if this is true and that  
can be slow.


Let me know how this goes. Once you can get initial population of the  
Data Grid to an acceptable level then I can show you some tricks for  
speeding things up when "fixed row height" = false.


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RE: [OT] anti-Yahoo ???

[Lynn Fredricks]

> I signed up for the RevMedia dp-5 release last night via my 
> Yahoo e-mail; by this morning I had no (presumably
> automated) reply. I signed up using my Gmail account and got 
> a reply in about 15 minutes.
> 
> As usual, I'm obviously missing something.

Yahoo's spam filters may have filtered out a reply. We have customers that
have used yahoo.com email and had that problem before (though to be fair,
not as bad as comcast).

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 

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Re: Clueless revlet question

[Andre Garzia]

do in browser is working? :-O

rejoice! rejoice! I missed the release of this... boys, we're on to some
wild ride now!

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hi Malte,
>
> If you would tell a little more...
>
> Would it be feasible for instance to include the url as an encrypted
> parameter in the embedding HTML code? You might read this from the
> revletParams array and decrypt it.
>
> You can create the embedding HTML code dynamically with
> document.write(location.href) or using PHP.
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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> On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:
>
>  Hi Mark,
>>
>> thanks for your reply. I have not too many ideas about Javascript.
>> However, this will write the URL to the browser window, no? I would need to
>> have it in a revolution variable for further processing. Any idea how I
>> could do that?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Malte
>>
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Re: Behaviors

[Beat Cornaz]

George wrote :

>If you leave out the first handler, Beat, other controls that DON'T
>override the behavior will get no mouseUp behavior at all!

George, I see what you mean. In my case all the buttons that have the  
behavior, have a mouseUp script in themselves with different code  
from button to button. So I need the mouseUp in all of my regular  
buttons. That's why I can leave it out in the behavior script, in my  
special case. But you're right, in general the mouseUp will be needed  
in the behavior script.


Thanks,

Beat

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Re: Clueless revlet question

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Malte,

If you would tell a little more...

Would it be feasible for instance to include the url as an encrypted  
parameter in the embedding HTML code? You might read this from the  
revletParams array and decrypt it.


You can create the embedding HTML code dynamically with  
document.write(location.href) or using PHP.


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On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:


Hi Mark,

thanks for your reply. I have not too many ideas about Javascript.  
However, this will write the URL to the browser window, no? I would  
need to have it in a revolution variable for further processing. Any  
idea how I could do that?


All the best,

Malte


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Re: Clueless revlet question

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Hi Mark,

thanks for your reply. I have not too many ideas about Javascript.  
However, this will write the URL to the browser window, no? I would  
need to have it in a revolution variable for further processing. Any  
idea how I could do that?


All the best,

Malte
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Re: Clueless revlet question

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Malte,

do "document.write(location.href)" in browser

This works with the very latest version of the plug-in only.

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On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:


Hi all,

I am at a clients place at the moment running into a problem I need  
a solutio for pretty quickly: Can I somehow find out the URL the  
revlet has been launched from? I need to gather the information  
inside of the stack. Any clues on how to do this? Javascript? Any  
code snippet highly appreciated.


All the best,

Malte



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Clueless revlet question

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Hi all,

I am at a clients place at the moment running into a problem I need a  
solutio for pretty quickly: Can I somehow find out the URL the revlet  
has been launched from? I need to gather the information inside of the  
stack. Any clues on how to do this? Javascript? Any code snippet  
highly appreciated.


All the best,

Malte
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