Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
This one is a steal at $1.99! I bought it despite the fact that I could have just continued playing on the beta Scott sent me earlier. Nice job, Scott. On Oct 17, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hello List: Just sharing a little excitement on the release of my first mobile app: PLEXXR -- a stylish puzzle game for Apple's iPad ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
Thanks for the suggestion--I would have forgotten to post a review otherwise, but now mine is up there among the first (all of them 5 stars, by the way). The consistency of ambiance in this game is just awesome. Thanks for taking the time to write it. All that time and effort really show. On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Thanks for all the support, folks. If it's not too much trouble, a short little review in iTunes would be a great help. It's really tough to get any visibility in the games arena over there. And thanks for putting up with this [OT] thread. :-) Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activate Rev Media ?!
Tim Just contact supp...@runrev.com and they can provide you with your password. They might also be able to tell you why this happened--I certainly can't (no surprise that :-) M On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Hoo Boy! I just realized that the place I keep my Rev Media registration number is an a password-protected Rev Stack! Tim Miller On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Hello, I've been the happy owner of Rev Media v 3.0.0 for several years. Yes, I paid for it. I use it every day, in a variety of ways, on crude, self-authored stacks. Today, I routinely launched a stack I use ever day, and, to my surprise, I was prompted to activate my copy. I might have the serial number around somewhere. I'll have to hunt. Meanwhile, why did this happen? Tim Miller___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MacBook core i7 : a real powerfull laptop or a sadly build toy ?
Thanks for the heads up, Pierre. If I replaced my MBP (unlikely since it is almost new), I probably would have gone for the high end one. Now I'll be thinking twice. BTW, have you tried lifting the MBP up from the table surface a little? I put those little circular felt furniture pads (the ones with self-adhesive built in) on the bottom of my MBPs to raise the laptop up slightly more than the Apple-installed feet do and find that really helps with heat dissipation. YMMV. On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: In beetwin us (part 2) ... I owned lots of macs over the years, from a PWB 160 to the last MBP core i7 15 and you know what : the best of all in them was always the operating system 0S 7/8/9 and OSX. The bad thing in them was the construction quality - one time good (as the best of alls : PWB G4 12 1 Ghz), one time sadly bad (as the sadest of all : PWB 5300 cs, three time rebuild to new by Apple). How to position the MacBook Pro core 620-i7 15 i purchased in the late of april ? If you just need to run one of its four virtual cores at once, it's OK but if you want to use it in running apps on its four virtual core in 24/7 mode, don't expect that this unibody laptop will support it for weeks. Instead of letting the processors fans turns all the day at 6000 t/mn as soon as 3 virtual cores are at work, the best to do is to switch to a more seriously build 720-i7 PC laptop (height virtual cores) able to run at 100% of its available power without becoming too hot even after months (i'm very happy with my ASUS 14 i payed half the price of the MBP). If i had to choose what MBP to purchase instead of the core i7 i owns today, i would certainly take a dual-core instead. The unibody is definitively not suited to embed the core i5/i7 processors... Best, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
Alex This is a little off target from the question you actually asked, but I wanted to share my experience going from a 15 in MBP to a 13 in MBA. The biggest impediment I found to getting work done efficiently on the MBA was not the lack of speed. It was the fact that the 13 inch screen seriously limited the number of apps I could have running side- by-side. This then got in the way of such basic operations as copying text from a Word document into a text field in an application I was building in Rev or having a PDF of the Rev manual open at the same time as I was using Rev. I eventually decided to go back to using a 15 inch MBP pretty much exclusively for the screen size. Of course, YMMV. Marian On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why do human have appendices?
The appendix is a vestigial organ, just like the coccyx is humankind's vestigial tail. On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:16 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well there are a number of theories there. Evolutionary theory suggests that humans have evolved from herbivores that needed appendices to house lots of gut flora to help digest cellulose. Why do we still have appendices? Well, just possibly they might be there as a sort of stop-gap in the unlikely eventuality of having to go on an all-grass diet for a spot. - Why has RunRev removed various capabilities that were there in earlier recensions of their software? *** Standalone building capabilities for, supposedly, deprecated operating systems: Mac Classic UNIX many others As one updates / upgrades software / one's house / one's computer / etc. it is generally the done thing to add enhancements that expand the possibilities for that thing. However; when I put in a second toilet I don't do it at the expense of the kitchen. When I put a second LightScribe DVD burner in my G4 Mac I didn't rip out 3 of the Hard-drives. When I made a new computer desk so that I could snuggle my Linux text box and my headless XP box right up next to my G4 linked monitor and keyboard I still made sure I had easy access to my BBC Micro (very useful for calming-down and modelling loops - in BBC BASIC - for implementing in RunRev later). On my G4 I have, amongst all the other 'Guff', RunRev 1.1.1 and 2.0.1, so I can always go back to the future and run off a standalone for some older OS; but, of course, a lot of the capabilities and features introduced in later recensions of RunRev get lost. But who wants to feed grass to a cow and wait for it to sick up its cud so that it is slightly more digestable for humans? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. Mr Mathewson holds a BA in Philosophy and this sometimes gets the better of him . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPad day
Mine is supposed to arrive today. I'm waiting with bated breath! On Apr 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?? The rest of us just have to wait and see if there are any left-overs after you have all bought millions :-( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting discussion on iPad content
My mistake in not clarifying. The offer was for educational discount on pre-purchase of Rev-Mobile, so only applies to educational users. On Mar 30, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Rodney, Am 31.03.2010 um 00:02 schrieb Rodney Somerstein: As far as I know, I never got any kind of special offer for Rev- Mobile. If I had some kind of offer to drop the price of Rev Mobile, I likely would buy into it. There is an offer in the store https://secure.runrev.com/store/browse/?product=RVSLMBLE You can buy the revMobile Pre-Order, which contains - all pre-release versions of revMobile - the shipping version of revMobile, when available - normally $999 - 1year of update for revMobile (starting after revMobile is released) - normally $399 - the RunRevLive.10 Simulcast, which lets you join the RunRevLive conference from your desk - normally $399 - the RunRevLive.10 DVD set (all recordings of the RunRevLive.10 conference - normally $249 for 799 US$ or 569 Euros. But the offer will expire in a few hours. Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMobile first impressions?
Thanks for all the details, Sarah. Is it possible to install an app onto an iPhone the way Ben appears to have done in the demo? I know you probably don't want to actually do it with a pre-alpha version for risk of seriously messing up your iPhone, but just wondered if it is possible. (If it were, then I might just try it on an iTouch if I got daring enough.) On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Marian Petrides mpetri...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd love to hear your more detailed impressions, Sarah, and I bet others would too. Meanwhile, thanks for the early preview! Here is some more info: Set your stack's font to Helvetica 14, the backColor to 200,200,200 and the look feel to Motif to get the best preview of how it will look on the iPhone without any skinning. A multi-card stack works fine and moving into out of sub-stacks works fine. Not all text decoration works: there are no fonts and you can't specify bold or italic, but all the other text styles work and you can set colors. I have used the photo picker and it works really well, but don't leave an image on screen if you leave that card or the app usually crashes. Images are a bit crashy - sometimes they work, other times they crash. File handling: I have been able to list files in the app bundle, create a new one and display it, download an image file and save it, download a web page and show the htmlText. File paths: you can get the defaultFolder which gives the full folder to the app in my Library. Getting the filename of my stack gives a much shorter path, with the app bundle being the root folder. I haven't worked out yet how to save a file to the app's Documents folder. iPhone specific commands: I have tested the command that accesses the photo library ( would do the camera if I was using a real iPhone) and they work really well. Shaking multi-touch all seem fine, although on the simulator I haven't actually been able to multi-touch. If you shake when typing in a text field, you get a dialog saying that there is nothing to undo, so the shake has been correctly linked to the undo mechanism, but the actual undo is not operational yet. Rotation: seemingly not implemented yet, although the handbook mentions that they cause the stack to get a resizeStack message. I haven't been able to detect this, so I have no idea how they plan to implement rotation. I tried activating the accelerometer but I can't test that without installing on a real iPhone. It didn't make any difference to the rotation - you still just see all the controls turned sideways. I even tried changing to a wide stack to see if that would help, but it didn't make any difference. So basically, although it all looks weird, there is an awful lot of Rev that just works. Images are the most flaky things I have discovered. As is usual with iPhone apps and Rev apps, errors don't make a fuss, although the app can just quit quietly if something weird happens. As regards future revMobile programming, the main things I will be looking for are the native look feel, rotation handling and better image handling. Of these, the rotation is the most important as I need to know how this will work in order to be able to plan my development. The look feel will not stop me developing, but you couldn't release an iPhone app that looks like it's running under X11 :-) Image handling is crucial because it has caused a lot of app crashes in my tests. Adding an icon to your app is super-easy. You just make a 57 x 57 png file and tell revMobile the plugin. When the app installs, the iPhone rounds the corners and adds the cool lighting effect. If anyone would like me to test any aspect in particular, just let me know. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference-DVDs arrived
For the record, when I emailed Kevin directly as he asked those of us who had not yet received our DVDs, he responded immediately and is making things right. I am now a happy camper, since I'll be getting my DVDs soon (with a promise from Kevin directly, not from a shipper that clearly wasn't doing his job). Oh, and Kevin promised they won't be using that particular shipper again--phew! Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: survey
two weeks On Feb 16, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Just a note - because I can google it if i really care, but what the hell - oh sorry - what the bloody hell is a fortnight? Sorry, over here in the colonies we don't use such hooey. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone else under two feet of snow
And then there are those of us who would have welcomed a couple of feet of snow, instead of the paltry few inches we got yesterday here in mid MO. On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Mikey wrote: As someone who lives somewhere that it snows 350+ inches a year, I can sympathize with you. I'm guessing you don't live somewhere that a 24 snowblower and a generator are just standard appliances that come with the house. Anyway, glad that you still have power. That will definitely make life more tolerable for the next few days while this thing winds down and crews finally get around to clearing roads that are undoubtedly clogged and at best barely passable. If it makes you feel any worse, the storm missed us up here in Lake Effect Snow country. But it also missed my friends in Sydney, Honolulu, Panama City and Rio, too. Wait - it never snows in those places. Never mind. Mike -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around? Video glasses (OT)
mated to a pair of LCD 3D compatible goggles + earphones. Oooh I love the idea! Video glasses that not only simulate a 50 inch screen but also do HD 3G. Now THAT I could go for!! But, then I'm not sure where the iPad would fit into this schema, since the video glasses should obviate the need for a video screen and could just as easily be used with an iPod nano as video source. Oh, well... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevLive09 DVD Set Session resources
Are you saying you got the DVDs already? I haven't gotten mine yet. When were they shipped? On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: hohoho could you actually understand me in there or you didn't see any of my sessions? :D On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:53 PM, RevList revl...@createchsol.com wrote: First of all, I want to say that the RevLive09 DVD set is leaps and bounds better than the 08 set. No comparison. Very well done. Now my question. Some of the sessions (like the first one) reference downloaded resources for the session. Where can we get those resources? Stewart This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please notify us immediately. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If Monks CD-ROM - test download please
Lauches OK for me. Thanks for the download, Brian! On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Brian Thomas wrote: Is anyone else having having trouble getting the OS X version to launch? I just double-click on the new launcher in the If Monks had Macs folder and it launches Monks everytime. Works from the doc, too. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Brian Thomas insidepoc...@gmail.com wrote: is a story attached to that one Colin. But, it works, doesn't it? Well, double clicking on it brings up a dialog asking me which program to use. As it's a Unix document, should I use Terminal? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting blog post - comments anyone?
Frankly, I welcomed the opportunity to put in a good word for Rev. Every little bit of positive publicity makes it more likely that Rev will live long and prosper--and that's good news for all of us who use Rev professionally and as hobbyists. On Nov 29, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Randall Reetz wrote: The idea that the customer services manager of a company would enlist that company's own customers in a public debate over the merits of that company's product and the rather easy to debase claims it made of its product... Well it just feels a little icky. I am a huge fan of xtalk and any bridge that can be built between intent and the horrors of programming. That is a professional opinion, a philosophy. When I purchase a product, that decision, and the money that is exchanged is my argument for that product, and should be sufficient to pay for any PR the company uses to attract other customers. And to ask for help without explaining how that decision to ask for customer help was made (and why) or at a minimum also venturing your own attempt at the same debate seems a tad unfair. Choosing a tool, especially in programming where endless hours are eaten up thereafter, well that is argument in itself. Use it! Tell the world how many rev users there are. If someone, unabated, wants to defend your products in public debate, so be it. But to ask this of your own customers? If the product were free, and if you were an unpaid volunteer, well maybe. randall ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting blog post - comments anyone?
Worse still. Its bad PR. In your opinion. In my opinion, I think it's nice to see people who actually USE a product come to its defense. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting blog post - comments anyone?
Am I to interpret that statement as meaning the user comments that were posted in response to the blog entry somehow lack integrity, simply because Heather brought the original post to our attention? If that IS what you are saying, then I take offense at such an intimation. Nobody told me what to write, nor could they have. I suspect the same is true of the other folks who posted replies to the blog If I am misinterpreting what you said, then I'm sorry. On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: But mostly my comments are general and concern the slow but steady disregard of integrity as a general concept ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF version of dictionary?
The problem is that I can put a PDF version on my Kindle DX and carry it anywhere at very little cost in terms of weight. This is not true of the hardcopy version. I find there are times when I need to have a reference book open while programming because trying to read through online dox just doesn't do the trick. I don't see a pdf offered anywhere. I didn't either but I hoped I was wrong. Looks like maybe not. :-( On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:45 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I don't see a pdf offered anywhere. Don't forget the new ONLINE version of the docs http://docs.runrev.com/ I'm guessing that the engine and IDE change so much over time that they have eliminated the PDF format for the *dictionary*, as I imagine it's much harder to create a new PDF version for every time there is an update, as opposed to the online (which can always be updated) and distributed versions (which are true for the versions that they are connected to). I think Rev have a new XML-based docs management system that is all integrated, probably now all sourced from same the mother database. At least that's the way I would do it. All in all, this I think is a sound strategy, nobody wants out-of-date pdfs around to manage, and we need absolutely correct definitions. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/11/17 runrev260...@m-r-d.de Hi, i sent the question about a PDF version of the dictionary to support already some days ago. As soon as i get an answer, i will post it here. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: PDF version of dictionary? (17-Nov-2009 21:39) From:Marian Petrides mpetri...@earthlink.net To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de Is there a PDF version of the Dictionary for v 4.0 available? If so, where can I find it? Also, does anyone know whether the hard copy (print edition) of the Dictionary that is offered on RunRev's website is for v 4 or some earlier version? TIA Marian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF version of dictionary?
Thanks, Jacque! On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: The problem is that I can put a PDF version on my Kindle DX and carry it anywhere at very little cost in terms of weight. This is not true of the hardcopy version. I find there are times when I need to have a reference book open while programming because trying to read through online dox just doesn't do the trick. It isn't too hard to make your own: 1. Download the MetaCard Setup stack from RevOnline. Open it in Rev. Make sure all the Dictionary options are checked. Run the setup. 2. In Rev, open the MC Dictionary stack you just installed. Click the Home button and import all the Rev dictionary entries. The ? button tells you how. 3. Edit the MC Dictionary stack script and add this handler: -- JLG: export as HTML file on exportDict ask file Name the HTML export file: if it = then exit exportDict put it into tFileName put p into tP set cursor to watch repeat with x = 2 to the number of cds put the htmltext of fld word of cd x tP tP after tData put the htmltext of fld type of cd x tP tP after tData put the htmltext of fld summary of cd x tP tP after tData put the htmltext of fld main of cd x tP tP after tData put the htmltext of fld see also of cd x tP tP after tData put tP hr tP after tData end repeat put tData into url (file:tFileName) end exportDict 4. Type exportDict into the message box. It only takes a second to create the HTML file. 5. Open the new HTML file in a browser or in Word or anywhere else you can display it. Print. In the OS X print dialog, choose to create a PDF file. On Windows, you'll need a PDF print driver to do that. It isn't gorgeous but it's all there. You could edit the HTML (or the export script) before printing to make it prettier. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem installing RevWeb plugin
I'm having the devil of a time getting the RevWeb plugin to install on Windows machines running Internet Explorer. I have a couple of stacks installed on my OnRev server that I can access and run just fine from multiple Macs and also from a tablet PC on which I had previously installed the plugin. However, when I try to access the URL from several different PCs on three different networks, both at home and at work, I keep getting the message that the plugin needs to be installed. I install it and try the site again and get the same message--this despite the fact that Manage Add Ons in IE shows the plug in to be installed and enabled. I've tried this on 4 or 5 different Windows machines, running everything from XP to Vista, and using both of my stacks. I've tried restarting IE, rebooting the computer, everything I can think of. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is? TIA. --Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem installing RevWeb plugin
Switching to Firefox solved the problem, at least under XP. Haven't had a chance to try it with Vista yet. Thanks a million, Jim! On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try switching to Firefox for now on PC (both XP and Vista). They are aware of problems with IE and are working on it. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini I'm having the devil of a time getting the RevWeb plugin to install on Windows machines running Internet Explorer. I have a couple of stacks installed on my OnRev server that I can access and run just fine from multiple Macs and also from a tablet PC on which I had previously installed the plugin. However, when I try to access the URL from several different PCs on three different networks, both at home and at work, I keep getting the message that the plugin needs to be installed. I install it and try the site again and get the same message--this despite the fact that Manage Add Ons in IE shows the plug in to be installed and enabled. I've tried this on 4 or 5 different Windows machines, running everything from XP to Vista, and using both of my stacks. I've tried restarting IE, rebooting the computer, everything I can think of. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is? TIA. --Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: onRev Question About Making a Log-in Page
I certainly would find this helpful, too. TIA. On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, Curious to know whether there are any examples of an onRev log-in page, that is, where the server remembers the visitor during their session, that I might learn from. I was thinking of concocting with Rev to pass tokens, but it would be nice to see a number of approaches. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What do Rev programmers charge per hour for programming?
Are you sure you'd want to hire them? :-) On Jun 6, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Paul Looney wrote: Quick, where do I find a couple of the dozen dollar per hour programmers? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev / Off-Rev
Oh, really? I looked long and hard for a crossplatform successor to Hypercard for many years before I found Rev in 1999 or 2000. And I haven't found a viable competitor since then. What makes you think there will be one in the future and what's more that it will be a fraction as good as Rev? (That's a rhetorical question.) On May 30, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: somebody is bound to come along, sooner or later, and take issue with RunRev is the unchallenged steward of that legacy today! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: USED MACs
Stephen I do not live in the SF area but would be very interested in the Apple ][s with drives and cards but sans monitors. Also the Mac cube. (OK, I admit it. I'm STILL an Apple ][ fanatic!) I'd be glad to pay for packing and shipping from your place to mine in Columbia, MO if you'd be willing to ship them to me. Marian (mpetrides at earthlink dot net) n Apr 21, 2009, at 6:42 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I don't use the old stuff any more but I just rescued several of my old macs from storage, and any list member in San Francisco that wants to come over and adopt, be my guest I'd rather have them loved than go to E- waste ville. Mac Cube G4 450?mhz G4 500 mhz with that odd AGP 'Space Blasters' monitor that's powered through the cable 8100 ( with 4 track digidesign pro hardware card, rack and cables ) and the software probably works -- probably 16 bit/44.1 9600 (with firewire card and Adobe Premier the Laptop that came before the Wall Street (forgot the number) G3 Wall Street with Firewire, USB, and video cardbus adapters G3 iMac (Purple) AV version (needs new CD drive installed, included) 7100 with Audiomedia Card Tons of ADB keyboards and mice Many SCSI cables, SCSI drives, terminations(yuck) Mac Recorder A video to SCSI adapter Nubus 10baseT cards Mucho software. I had almost everything. The two 500's (all in one) went to Ewaste a while ago. for the real hard core gear slut: 2 complete Apple II systems with monitors, drives, and all cards, FROB game development system for Atari VCS and a box of Documentation including the famous Red Book, Forth (with software), Sweet 16 docs, blah blah but I'm keeping the SE-30. ha ha I don't know if anybody here wants this stuff... but does it hurt to ask? Pardon me if I've violated some rule This collection looks like the history of Apple computer... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/4/21 Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com So, who's 'living in shoebox in middle of road'? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Gutenberg Reader
I just downloaded the .dmg file and attempted to read a book using the Reader. However, the arrow key at the top right does not seem to work--does not take me to the next page. iMac core 2 duo running OS X 10.5.6. On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:19 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Aha! Done. The Mac version of the app is now in .dmg form at: http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/Gutenberg.html Hope this solves the problems people have been having. Let me know! Works here also. The Quit from menubar and command Q that we discussed also work fine if I am out of the Reader (I assume - if the revBrowser is closed). Maybe you need to add a step (closing down the revBrowser) to the quit script. I'm going to go get that damn White Whale now!! sims I'm working on a revision, based on a suggestion from Robert Brenstein, that will open both the help field and the browser object in windows of their own, allowing you to keep the browser open if you want while going back to the content window, and to peruse the help text while being able to examine the content window and its controls. Closing the browser window will first quit the browser. I'll be sure to insert a command to quit the browser before quitting the app, to make sure the browser being open doesn't interfere with quitting the app. A work in progress. Good luck with that whale. Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Google goes mad?..
No problem here. (Mid-Missouri USA) On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:13 AM, viktoras d. wrote: a few minutes ago I searched for runtime revolution, birds, webcam hints, climate change in google and each of these searches now is marked This site may harm your computer. So if I click the link it redirects to www.google.com/insterstitial page Warning- visiting this web site may harm your computer. Do you experience the same or is it any sort of local phenomenon ?.. Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Google goes mad?..
Mac here, too. No problems. Must be a Win thing. On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Great, no virus then. I'm on a Mac, that must explain why I didn't notice it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 31 jan 2009, at 16:38, viktoras d. wrote: google team is fast in handling errors. Now everything works again. The world is saved :-) ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Free Stuff for Mac
Cool! thanks! On Dec 26, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, In case you didn't know yet... http://givingtree.macheist.com/ -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: latest beta GLx2
That's odd. I've never had a problem getting a response from support-- might take a few hours (time zone, ya know) but Heather is very good about responding. Did you try resending your query? On Dec 20, 2008, at 8:04 PM, -= JB =- wrote: I have complained to support about problems with my Enterprise capabilities since last February. At what point in your life do you decide that method does not work? -=JB=- On Dec 20, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 21 Dec 2008, at 02:01, -= JB =- wrote: Now I am still not being provided the same benefits as other Enterprise users which was advertised as part of the purchase. You have a support issue. If there's any problem at all, or beef you got with Rev, then always mail support. This list is foremost a customer community forum. It's rarely looked at by any RunRev staffers, and normally only when they get noticed by comunity members that things aren't as smooth as usual. Now guess how comunity members do that? By mailing to support: supp...@runrev.com Remember to have fun Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com/runrev/chatrev.php Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/stacks/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [TT] Tintin et Milú.
I have no idea what you just said, Richmond, but I do recognize Tintin and Snowy. Since I have not one but TWO wire fox terriers like Snowy, I'm vaguely curious for a translation. Care to oblige? Off list is fine. On Dec 14, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: TT- Totally Tangential. En Français nous avons Tintin et Milú, mais les Anglophones ont 'Tintin and Snowy'. Grace de Dieu nous n'avons pas Tintin en Bulgarien; c'est sure le nomme du chien vas êtes un crôt! Mozhe bi imenata na kuche e Snezhuk, ot snyak, pralichna na anglijskata imena? An Ah dinnae thole til quhat an owersetter wid die wi yon white hound in war douce lied! Ah jalouse it widnae be ae that mensefu. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [TT] Beavering Away . . .
Oh, please, don't tantalize us that way!!! On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: You must not have read Fear of Flying in the 70s! If you do not know what it means, more than likely you do not want to know. Best regards Neal Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Judy Perry katheryn.swynf...@gmail.com wrote: U I'm feeling more stupid than usual. What exactly does hoovering mean in the US? And how long ago was this heaux conversation? (yes, I've seen it spelt that way). Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson gerada...@yahoo.com wrote: [TT] - Totally Tangential. Ha, Ha, Ha . . . When I was studying at SIU Carbondale I rushed into a teaching assistants' meeting fresh from vacuuming the carpet at home and said: Sorry I'm late, I have just been hoovering . . . There was a deathly silence in the room! My understanding supervisor (A Canadian) took me outside and told me that 'hoovering' did not mean vacuum-cleaning in America. Late, I was working in the married students' garden plots when a pleasant woman from Wyoming asked me how I managed to break up the clods of earth so effectively. My reply; I always use a hoe. was received in silence, and then she walked off, never to speak to me again. In Britain, 'beavering away' means (or, maybe, meant, when I was at school) working away extremely eagerly; no doubt connected with eager beaver - which, no doubt, you North Americans will resemanticise as a synonym for loose woman. Divided by a common language we may be; united by a love of programming in Runtime Revolution I hope we all are. Welcome to the silly season !!! Love, Richmond. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [TT] Beavering Away . . .
Thanks. It actually wasn't as bad as I imagined. ;-) On Dec 13, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Noel wrote: For those curious folks :) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoovering - Noel At 06:22 PM 12/13/2008, you wrote: Oh, please, don't tantalize us that way!!! On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: You must not have read Fear of Flying in the 70s! If you do not know what it means, more than likely you do not want to know. Best regards Neal Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Judy Perry katheryn.swynf...@gmail.com wrote: U I'm feeling more stupid than usual. What exactly does hoovering mean in the US? And how long ago was this heaux conversation? (yes, I've seen it spelt that way). Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson gerada...@yahoo.com wrote: [TT] - Totally Tangential. Ha, Ha, Ha . . . When I was studying at SIU Carbondale I rushed into a teaching assistants' meeting fresh from vacuuming the carpet at home and said: Sorry I'm late, I have just been hoovering . . . There was a deathly silence in the room! My understanding supervisor (A Canadian) took me outside and told me that 'hoovering' did not mean vacuum-cleaning in America. Late, I was working in the married students' garden plots when a pleasant woman from Wyoming asked me how I managed to break up the clods of earth so effectively. My reply; I always use a hoe. was received in silence, and then she walked off, never to speak to me again. In Britain, 'beavering away' means (or, maybe, meant, when I was at school) working away extremely eagerly; no doubt connected with eager beaver - which, no doubt, you North Americans will resemanticise as a synonym for loose woman. Divided by a common language we may be; united by a love of programming in Runtime Revolution I hope we all are. Welcome to the silly season !!! Love, Richmond. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVD just arrived here :-)
Region-less DVDs, what a concept! Too bad more DVD producers don't take Rev's customer-friendly approach. Thanks, Kevin/RunRev!! They won't play it if the region code has been set to a different country, but our DVD does not have this set so everyone should be fine. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: DVD standards, regions ( Was Re: Conference DVD just arrived here :-)
Well, the conference was in the US, so they most likely originated as NTSC, no? On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: As far as I'm aware, all DVD players play NTSC whereas the reverse is not true. They won't play it if the region code has been set to a different country, but our DVD does not have this set so everyone should be fine. The region free-ness does mean that the discs will be playable legally ok, but whether the TV picture will work is another question. You have to have both a DVD player that can cope with the other standard, and a TV that can work at the other frame rate. It's true that more players and sets in Europe can play NTSC and show 60 Hz, than there are players and sets in the US that can play PAL and show 50 Hz, but there will still be a lot of setups that have problems. In all cases though, computers will be able to play the DVD-Video ok (assuming you have a DVD-ROM drive). The main reason to make them as NTSC would be if the video was recorded as NTSC in the first place. It wouldn't be ideal if they were recorded as PAL and then converted to NTSC, to sometimes be viewed in PAL again Doing that would mean everyone is getting less quality than was in the original videos. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I'm sorry but ..... !
That's the User Guide. But what about the dictionary? I don't think I was able to do that. (But I WAS able to print the User Guide double- sided at Kinko's before it became available as a print version.) On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Francis, At least on a Mac, I've been able to save a copy of the User Guide as a PDF document from the Online version. So Then, if you have PDFPen, you may modify it to suit your own tastes. So they say. I haven't actually done this. Joe Wilkins On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Sell us the Adobe files for the User Guide and the Dictionary, for a moderate price, and we can print them out ourselves, and also be able to add to them. I've got several printers sitting in a corner, desperately waiting for work. These old work-horses would love to go out on a thousand page canter Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Test if list is still alive
Got this message, so guess it is alive. On Nov 14, 2008, at 7:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Nothing seen for hours ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time for a break
ROTFLWTIME On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: You know you've been doing too much coding when: ...you're in the middle of writing an email message and you press the tab key to format a paragraph... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New to Rev Use-Rev List - Some Questions - RevMentor
Mark If you might be developing on one platform (?Mac) but potentially deploying your app on both platforms, I'd seriously consider Enterprise. It's really nice to be able to develop on my Mac, save my stack(s) onto the PC partition and then go in and make final tweaks (mainly font fixes) on the Windows side. Of course, I'm biased because most of my apps need to be Windows (publisher's insistence) and I personally have a very strong preference for working on the Mac not Win. I always get the download version. However, I'm not sure what is included with the boxed version, nor do I know what the price difference is. As for the dox, I sent the PDF to Kinkos and had them print it double- sided and spiral bind it. Cost about $40 (black and white, natch). I did it this way because I wanted printed dox and they were not yet available to order, not necessarily because of the lower price. Learning strategy: that would depend on how much you know going in. I already knew hypercard pretty well, so the transition was easy for me--and I do better at trying to create a program that does something I need than trying to learn just by doing tutorials. But I'm not exactly a conventional coder, either. One suggestion I have would be to see if you can find a copy of Danny Goodman's book on hypercard and read the first few chapters that talk about concepts like stacks and message hierarchy--unless you are already familiar with them. Just my 2 cents. YMMV. Marian On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Mark Srebnik wrote: Greetings Revolutionistas*, Just discovered the Use-Rev Listwanted to jump in and say Hello to everyone and also get some input from this illustrious group. Basically, I'm a code noob, living smack in the middle of Silicon Valley, surrounded coders, hi-tech companies and work right next door to Electronic Arts and Oracle, yet I don't work for a hi-tech company and couldn't code my way out of a paperbag ;-) Have dabbled a bit over the past several years with Basic, C, C++ by reading books on my own and going through some tutorials and exercisesbut due to time constraints (work, etc) haven't gone very far in depth with any language, but I'm very persistent when I want to do something... Checked out Rev again this past week, using trial of 2.9, and liked what I saw and then just found out about 3.0, which looks to be even better... I do want to learn Rev as it really seems to be a great balance between being relatively accessible for people like me and yet still have a lot of powerful capabilities...also, it's clear that there's a great community here that is very helpful to one another. So, ready to take the plunge and purchase Rev, but have a few questions please... 1) Which Version to Buy? Prior to 3.0, I only considered buying Media or maybe Studio due to pricing. Now, with new improved lower pricing, I'm considering Studio or Enterprise. Option A - Enterprise As I mainly use a Mac at home and a have a little Fujitsu P1610 tabletPC that I bring with me to work, it would be great to work on Mac in evenings/weekends and in Windows during the week on my breaks at work if I want So, this means having at least (2) Rev OS versions available, which makes Enterprise version attractive, although probably overkill for a noob like me and a higher cost option. Option B - Studio The other alternative that I just thought about is to go with Studio either Windows or Linux version as I can run either Windows or Linux on my Mac with Parallels Desktop and run Windows or Linux version on my P1610 as it’s setup to dual boot Win and Linux... So, this makes Studio version attractive given its lower entry cost. What do you guys think about my options? 2) Rev – Download vs Boxed Version It’s not clear to me from Rev’s website what’s included in boxed version besides Rev CD. Do you get a printed copy of the user guide too? Or anything else? Otherwise, seems like just easier/cheaper just to get download version. 3) Rev Printed User Guide Any recommendations for getting the printed user guide or do most people just use the electronic version? 4) Learning Rev Strategy Do you recommend just working through the included tutorials and other materials that comes with Rev and then working on your own projects or ?? 5) RevMentor Site Have had some great helpful and encouraging correspondence regarding Rev with Jerry Daniels. He informed me about his RevMentor website. I’ve looked it over and there’s a lot of great Rev info there for noobs like along with more advanced folks on this list. Watching one of Jerry’s vids (from RunRevLive 2008) was incredibly helpful for me in understanding the differences between graphics, interfaces, and workflow. The differences between them made perfect sense the way that Jerry explained the concepts of each and why this is critical to making
Re: Rev Makes MacNN too!
Don't look at me I posted my comment already ;-))) Actually, thanks for the suggestion, Judy. It motivated me to post a detailed comment. On Sep 12, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Judy Perry wrote: http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/09/12/revolution.30/ I think we need some positive comments here, people :-) Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using arrow keys to move from card to card
Thanks for the suggestion, Joe. Unfortunately, there's nothing in any of the handlers in the stack that uses ArrowKeys. I could swear I once found a check box in one of the object inspectors that solved the problem, but I can't find it now. I'm using 2.9 BTW. On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Since I often do such things with the on ArrowKeys handlers, check cd 10's script and any object on cd 10 that may have an ON ArrowKeys handler. Could also be on a stack handler that provides an exception. In which cases you may need to do a pass ArrowKeys statement in one of these. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using arrow keys to move from card to card
Bingo. Problem solved! Field was locked but I inadvertently did not turn focusable off. Did that and all is well. Thanks, Terry. Oh, and for anyone else looking for the toggle to turn keyboard navigation on and off, it is in the Revs Preferences menu item. That wasn't the problem in this case, however. On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Terry Judd wrote: Is there an unlocked field that has focus on this cd? It could be eating up your keystrokes. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Enterprise Half-Off Sale (Plus GLX2 and VAB!)
Huh? The offer I received included only Rev, not GLX2 or VAB. Did I miss something? On Aug 16, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Luis wrote: Waitaminit, I didn't see that GLX2 and VAB were included in the offer... Cheers, Luis. Mikey wrote: OK, so this wasn't posted to the list. Regardless, we're SO in. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.
As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an undue number of spam emails. In general my method for dealing with spam is to just go through my emails selecting anything that appears to be uninteresting and deleting these messages. Takes but a second each time and I tend to delete (unread) most of the messages in my inbox. No biggie. On May 19, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hey Colin, Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam experiences from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore. Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment method you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was pretty easy to integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does charge the lowest fees for a transaction which helps us keeping the price down. We do accept checks or wire transfers if we are asked to. However this is quite inconvenient for both parties. The customer does not get the code instantly, which is a thing we clearly wanted to offer. How do others handle this? options? All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting things the wrong way round . . .
Well, then I'd better start whispering because I am one happy camper. :-) On Apr 20, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Shari wrote: The unhappy folks yell the loudest, while the happy folks whisper in your ear. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting things the wrong way round . . .
Richmond wrote: Now I don't know what motivated the other Beta testers; however I am always suspicious at protestations of disinterested service. I need to second Sarah's statement: My motivation for wanting Runtime to prosper is completely selfish. Even though my use of Rev was in a prolonged hiatus between 2004 and 2007 (I had other things I needed to be working on), I gladly continued to renew my license yearly. Why? Because I wanted RunRev to be around when I was finally ready to get back into creating software. And, I was rewarded by having a version 2.9 that is far better than the 2.1.2 I had been using. Worth every penny IMHO. Face it, this is a community. Each of us who values it contributes what he can afford to to that community, be it time, money, or simply devoted evangelism--not because we HAVE to, but because we all want the Rev community to prosper. I'll step off my soapbox now Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mirye [was Getting things the wrong way round]
Shari, I was wondering the same thing. Lynn probably can give a better answer, but here's what I found on Mirye's website (www.mirye.com): Mirye Software Publishing is the North American publisher of Runtime Revolution, the leading application and multimedia development environment based on the English-like, object language Revolution. It is the only software that builds native applications on all three major operating systems, Solaris and build native CGIs. M On Apr 19, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Shari wrote: I have to seriously plan product shipments - we are preparing Mirye Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon. What goes to retail can't be something that's full of issues, since if it is, its more likely to be shipped back from distribution after a lot of customer complaints. There's a huge cost associated with getting returns of bum product. What is Mirye Runtime Revolution? Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting things the wrong way round . . .
Lynn If we already have a Rev Enterprise license, will we order our renewals through Amazon or continue to renew through Run Rev? If we can do either--and a the same cost, which is more beneficial to the folks at RunRev? (See my comment about motivation behind continuing to do annual renewals even while use of Rev was/is dormant). M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond, Such is the nature of public betas. People who beta tested OSX as part of the public beta still had to buy it. However, I thought purchasers of 2.7 got a free upgrade. Or am I wrong? You might want to check with Rev support. M On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement. But it was not to be. Pity really. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Kinko's told me they could not print it because of copyright issues, otherwise I would have gone that route. :-( On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: I got mine printed at Kinkos for $39 with double-sided printing, vinyl front and back covers and comb-binding, not a bad deal. Neal On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... I agree with Jacque but this gave me an idea: I have added a print feature in the Rev Search Engine (access it from the docs or 2.9 Rev Help menu) that will be available in the next release: It allows to print (or export as PDF with Mac OS X if you prefer) your current search then, little by little, according to your needs you'll gather printed docs. Of course you may specify what you want: 'command' (more than 300 entries...) or just 'icon' or 'print' to make a kind of booklet about a specific topic. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Thanks, Eric. On Apr 12, 2008, at 4:30 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... I agree with Jacque but this gave me an idea: I have added a print feature in the Rev Search Engine (access it from the docs or 2.9 Rev Help menu) that will be available in the next release: It allows to print (or export as PDF with Mac OS X if you prefer) your current search then, little by little, according to your needs you'll gather printed docs. Of course you may specify what you want: 'command' (more than 300 entries...) or just 'icon' or 'print' to make a kind of booklet about a specific topic. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Wow! Thanks Neal! I just ordered mine--essentially the same price (I had front page in color). Should be ready for pickup tonight. Whoopee! On Apr 12, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: I just queued it on for an on-line print order (also did the Valentina documents) and no one said anything, I do it quite often. Neal On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinko's told me they could not print it because of copyright issues, otherwise I would have gone that route. :-( On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: I got mine printed at Kinkos for $39 with double-sided printing, vinyl front and back covers and comb-binding, not a bad deal. Neal On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... I agree with Jacque but this gave me an idea: I have added a print feature in the Rev Search Engine (access it from the docs or 2.9 Rev Help menu) that will be available in the next release: It allows to print (or export as PDF with Mac OS X if you prefer) your current search then, little by little, according to your needs you'll gather printed docs. Of course you may specify what you want: 'command' (more than 300 entries...) or just 'icon' or 'print' to make a kind of booklet about a specific topic. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev GM1?
Mark You should be able to download it right from the RunRev site, since it is the current release version: https://www.runrev.com/downloads/free-trial/ If memory serves, I just downloaded the trial and then entered my own unlock code instead of the demo unlock code. Marian On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm a currently paid-up customer who has been participating in the beta program all along. I never got a GM1 announcement or link for download. Is there a download site, or is it still by mail-out only? Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Thanks for the tip Jackie. Well, I successfully printed out all 400 pages of the User Guide-- although single-sided is going to be a binding nightmare ? 3 or 4 volumes?. However, given your cautionary note, I may hold off on printing the Transcript Dictionary for now. Heather told me that RunRev is coming up with a PDF and hardcopy version of the Transcript Dictionary once the User Guide is out (it's at the printer now) and I have an older version of the dictionary (the one that goes with 2.1 or 2.2) to tide me over for now. M On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Live conference: Trevor DeVore
RunRev is going to make a DVD of the entire event. It has been advertised as a freebie for attendees who sign up for the pre-day session (maybe for other attendees as well, I don't know). I suspect that the DVD will also be on sale, when it becomes available, on the RunRev store. Kevin, Heather? M On Mar 22, 2008, at 10:47 AM, william humphrey wrote: Revolution Live conference with Trevor DeVore speaking. Is someone going to make a video podcast of this event and edit into something that non-attendees could buy and maybe watch and learn from? I would hope for something that had RunRev learning stacks that went with it. I even hope for something with not just SQLite but also basics for using Valentina with both RunRev's newly improved database query builder and with Trevor's library calls. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Live conference: Trevor DeVore
Bill, Here's the description in the ad. Looks like the price will be $249 and that the DVD will include stacks. I was counting on the DVD when I had to schedule a return flight at noon on Sat. :-( Alas, there's no mention of separate lectures being available. M = When you sign up now, attend the pre-conference training day for the low cost of only $250, PLUS get a DVD of the entire three-day conference, a $249 value, mailed to you as soon as it's ready absolutely FREE! Not only that, you'll receive a free copy of Revolution Media, a $49 value, just for attending. Participants in the full conference receive the DVD and a copy of Revolution Studio, a $649 value in total. The DVD offer and Early Bird discount expires on March 31, though. So act soon! After that the DVD costs $249. Valuable conference in a box The DVD includes all the conference sessions, with any stacks and examples the presenters have used, full session notes, video of the sessions, and will be the perfect refresher aid for you to use when the conference is over. Get the experience in person without having to worry about taking notes of everything that happens. Save time and money by attending just the first day, but getting the benefit of the full conference. On Mar 22, 2008, at 11:00 AM, william humphrey wrote: I hope that there is a DVD for just Trevor's event (as well as separate one for other stuff) that includes CD of learning stacks for what he presents. I remember that there was DVD's last time that I didn't buy because of price but I think something specific like this would be worth some money. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beware! GTX2 can cause problems
Which beta were you using when you had problems? On Mar 18, 2008, at 7:37 AM, Len Morgan wrote: I've started having the same problem: Massive slow down of the whole system when I've got GLX2 running. This was after deleting the preferences file. To try and solve another problem, I was advised to go back to the stable version. After the problem had been resolved, I went back to the latest beta and that's when the slow down started. Sometimes it gets to the point of being almost unusable. len morgan Dave wrote: Hi, It doesn't appear to be doing that on my system, also it started running so slowly so as it be unusable, so I uninstalled it. Spent a weird hour trying to figure out where my changes had got to last night! All the Best Dave On 17 Mar 2008, at 14:28, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Mar 17, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Dave wrote: Ran into this and it caused me no end of grief, I'm using two versions of RunRev, 2.8.1.472 and the 2.9 Beta. I also use GTX2 and this is where the confusion came in. If you edit a script in one version of RunRev/GTX2, then open the Script in the version of RunRev/GTX2, the changes don't appear! I think that GTX2 must be caching the Script Source code somewhere that is Private to the Version of RunRev you are currently using? In addition to Sarah and Jerry's comments I would also add that GLX2 stores the script you are working on (hasn't been compiled yet) in the object itself. So the script you are working on follows that object around. So opening the script of the object in another version of Rev running GLX2 should still show the script in progress (done this plenty of times myself). Opening the script in the Rev script editor will NOT show the working script, however, since Rev doesn't know about GLX2 custom properties. So if you aren't seeing changes as you move between two versions of Rev that are both using GLX2 then my guess is that you have the stack open in both versions at the same time and aren't reloading the stack into memory. If a stack file has been loaded in memory and you change the stack file on disk the changes on disk will not show up in the stack in memory until it is reloaded. Is it possible that this is what is happening on your end? Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Programming as a profession-the practice model
At the risk of opening a can of worms, I offer the following as a synopsis of the sentiments underlying the posts about the Learn Programming in One Day ad. The common thread seems to me to be that programming, like any other profession, is not so much taught as practiced. Just as medical or law schools teach the rudiments of the profession, the real learning takes place in the day-to-day practice. Without lifelong learning, no lawyer, doctor, or programmer will come close to achieving his/her full potential. Someone once told me in my first year of medical school that medicine is a personal philosophy, tempered by science and experience, and put into practice. It seems to me that the statement applies equally to programming. My 2 cents. M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Learn Programming in 1 Day
Enough. This is advertising, guys. Like a headline, it is meant to catch your eye and get you to read on. There's nothing sinister (or insulting) at all about it. And, in fact, it did exactly what it was designed to do, at least in my case. Do you guys get this hot and bothered about books that tell you you will learn to program in C in 24 hours (Sam's guides, if memory serves)? Of course not. = On Mar 15, 2008, at 11:14 AM, jbv wrote: Richmond, sorry to be so abrasive, but IMHO none of these titles makes any sense... The 1st one has been already discussed. As for the 2nd one, what exactly is a functioning Program ? put 1 + 1 into a is a functionning program, as well as echo hello world; and both can be built in a large number of languages in less than a minute... Furthermore, I don't think this topic has anything to do with semantics, but rather with the ergonomics of coding... Therefore, I'd prefer Learn how to produce a functionning piece of software that will boost your (or your client's )productivity and that isn't already available as freeware, shareware or commercial app in 1 day... Or, as suggested in earlier posts, much better : Learn how to code as you think in 1 day Kill your fear of programming in 1 day Best, JB Semantics time: There is a huge difference between Learn Programming in 1 Day and Learn How to Produce Functioning Programs in 1 Day. The first title, which ever way you cut it, is fairly nonsensical; HOWEVER, the second makes perfect sense with regard to Runtime Revolution. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Learn Programming in 1 Day
I realize these comments are intended primarily as humor. However turning serious for a minute, this sounds like a great opportunity for self-taught programmers like me to actually build a solid foundation (instead of the sloppy mess I currently muddle by with--hey, I DO have my roots in BASIC after all--color me master of spaghetti code) onto which to tack the day-to-day learning we are doing. My 2 cents. M On Mar 14, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Dave wrote: Maybe be the RunRev programming team were of the same course! Would explain a lot! ducking for cover Happy Weekend! Dave On 14 Mar 2008, at 11:20, jbv wrote: Depends on what you mean by programming... I've often met graphic designers using Flash who write scripts with a complexity equivalent to go prev / go next, or who copy/paste some scripts they grabbed on the web and in which they change 1 or 2 parameters, and then claim to be graphic designers AND programmers... In that case, I guess 1 day is enough... JB Learn Programming in 1 Day really ? I must be extremely stupid then. And, no I don't need 100 replies to confirm the above:) love, Richmond __ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Learn Programming in 1 Day
I'm actually going to have to leave the conference Sat around noon because of flight connections :-( It stinks, I know, but my real job pays for my fun job (playing with Rev). On Mar 14, 2008, at 4:05 PM, jbv wrote: Marian Petrides, MD a *crit : Now, I'm planning on attending the full conference + pre conference and what about post - conference ? sorry... couldn't resist... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [semi-OT] iPhone help needed
Did it just now. HTH. On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hi All, My current work involves lots of process control and monitoring. I am setting up automatically updating web pages that allow the relevant people to log in and see what is happening at any time. When/if the iPhone ever arrives in Australia, it will be the perfect adjunct to this technique as I can make the software send an SMS alert and then people can log into the web page for more details. I have been testing the web page displays on my iPod Touch and found that I need to use very different font sizes. The small but high res screen needs much larger fonts if it is to be readable without having to zoom in. This is fine and I can use PHP to read the HTTP_USER_AGENT and then set the page to use the appropriate style sheet. However I don't know what the HTTP_USER_AGENT is set to by an iPhone. I would be very grateful if anyone who has an iPhone could log into to http://www.troz.net/browser.php and click the button. You don't even have to enter the other data if you don't want to. I'll be taking the page down when I get the data I need, so if you get a 404, then someone else has already done it. Many thanks in advance, Sarah P.S. If anyone else needs the same sort of data, here is what you get from an iPod touch: Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A93 Safari/419.3 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT ?] LOGO language manual
Thanks, Richmond. Alas, I have long since gotten past HyperStudio (to HC and then Rev). But it is good to know where I can find a logo manual should I need one. On Jan 20, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Berkeley LOGO: http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ ! Turtle Free ! Probably good enough if you are stuck with HyperStudio :-( BUT; surprise, surprise, Runtime Revolution comes with built-in language documentation (albeit a bit clunky). sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Look and Learn . . .
Yes, indeed, you COULD script HyperStudio but the scripting language was Logo--and unfortunately by the mid-90's finding books on programming in Logo had become virtually impossible. I found but one in the Dartmouth College math department library --none in the main library and none available for purchase--this was long before Amazon came along. So, for me, HyperStudio had a million dollars worth of promise (literally), but was unfortunately worth next to nothing on delivery. I never understood why they didn't make their scripting language more HyperTalk-like. My 2 cents. Marian Lynn wrote: I think you are missing the point of HyperStudio. HyperStudio was the K-12 specific HyperCard and well targeted exactly to that market. You had loads of templates and tools that are toony, but fun to use. Also, wasn't the language it used (and uses) based on Logo? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Caricature challenge
Great image, Heather :-))) On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: Well! Thank you for that Lynn, I really needed a laugh this morning. I will get my umbrella! (did he just call me grandma? should I be offended? no doubt I would be if i wasn't laughing so much). Folks, interesting debate, and once again an illustration of the diversity of the wonderful people inhabiting this list. We're all done now, right? Politics need to stay offlist. Politeness is the grease that keeps things ticking over, if not in the world at least on this list. I don't think anybody intended offence, so lets shake on it and get back to talking about Revolution. Warm regards and Happy Holidays to you all! Heather, your local List Mom, holding a large, pink, frilly umbrella with one of those long spikes on the end... On 19 Dec 2007, at 18:26, Lynn Fredricks wrote: . There's a universal norm that, in almost any culture, if you say something that offends grandmother, even though its legally okay to say it, you can and will get wacked upside the head by an umbrella, huge brockaded hand bag, tray of cookies, rolled up newspaper, presto log, or maybe a week old baguette. Let's let the spirit of grandma prevail, especially since we do not know what Heather List Mom is carrying around :-) Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Holiday Bundle - Holy Cow, Batman!
OK so you have us all drooling now, well done! (smile) what about us poor babies who upgraded early and don't need to buy in again until later: (In our case March 08 for renewal of edu- enterprise license) If you renew now, the renewal will extend you until March '09. However, there's a less expensive way to renew. Buy a new Studio license for $400 and get the entire bundle. Then before your Enterprise license runs out in March, get an Enterprise early renewal for $500. The result: an Enterprise license that runs through March '09 + the entire bundle + a license for Studio 2.8.1 that you probably don't need--all for $900 -- i.e. for less than what it would cost to buy an Enterprise renewal bundle. I just did this--see the rest of my message below: I guess Rev Santa will not be stopping by my house this year boo hoo hoo and this offer is only for newbies... Au contraire. I have an Enterprise license that does not expire until June '08. I purchased a _new_ Studio license as part of the Studio Bundle for $400 and then did an early renewal on my Enterprise license for $500. (I didn't really HAVE to renew this early but it is easier not to have to worry that I might forget to renew until more than a year had passed and I didn't qualify for a discounted early renewal.) As a result, I now have an Enterprise license through June '09, a Studio license for 2.8.1 (that I don't really need), and the entire bundle. Total cost: $900. Confusing pricing but a mighty good deal. M On Dec 12, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: http://www.runrev.com/offers/rshb - Bill OK so you have us all drooling now, well done! (smile) what about us poor babies who upgraded early and don't need to buy in again until later: (In our case March 08 for renewal of edu- enterprise license) I guess Rev Santa will not be stopping by my house this year boo hoo hoo and this offer is only for newbies... Anyway, congrats on the powerful new marketing! Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Size of array
Thanks, Richard! This is very helpful. On Nov 18, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Speaking of arrays... Am I correct in understanding that Rev only supports one dimensional arrays or am I misreading the dox? Rev currently supports associative arrays. Unlike numerically indexed arrays, associative array keys are not restricted to integers only, and may use just about any string within the acceptable length range (which in Rev I believe is 64k). Since numerals can be included in such strings, this gives you the ability to use numeric indices with associative arrays as you would with indexed arrays, e.g.: get tMyArray[1] But using strings as keys also opens up whole new worlds of indexing convenience beyond being limited to integers only, such as storing data by user name for example: put Kevin into tCurrentUser get tSettingsArray[tCurrentUser] Because nearly any string can be used as a key, you can use notation similar to what you'd expect for multi-dimensional arrays to describe unique elements in associative arrays as well: get tMyArray[4,4] For more on associative arrays in general, the Wikipedia entry is a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array For more on Rev's implementation of them, search the docs for array or associative. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Size of array
Thanks!! On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:31:41 -0600, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Thanks, Richard! This is very helpful. This might help as well; it was an article I wrote trying to compare Director's arrays with Revolution's, but it gives an inside peek on how Revolution sees/works with arrays: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/arry001.htm And this tip helps with manipulating array contents: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/arry002.htm Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Size of array
Speaking of arrays... Am I correct in understanding that Rev only supports one dimensional arrays or am I misreading the dox? On Nov 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Shari, I think this can be somewhat dependent on how much ram is available, but in my experience, rev handles fairly large arrays very well. I've had arrays consisting of 500 or so elements, each containing 2000+ items without any problem. So I'd stick with the one big array. Best, Mark On 17 Nov 2007, at 21:23, Shari wrote: How big of an array have you created without noticing any reduction in speed? I'm pondering the best way to store a large conglomerate of data, and was hoping for a general guideline as to how humungous of an array I could create without tripping over it. I'm currently set up to break it into smaller pieces. However, it would be awesome if I could store the data all together. The array would have about 300,000 pieces of data, broken into about 300 keys, each with 1000 bits of data. Currently I have 300 separate arrays planned, only one being loaded at any given time. Have any of you worked with arrays this size? Any speed issues? Shari -- WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games BIackjack GoId http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
