Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window

2010-08-08 Thread Richard Miller

Ben,

We limit grabs to 3 minutes now, but I suspect we could go longer. It 
really depends on the processor and camera involved (and probably the 
audio input source as well)... tremendous variability. Only testing will 
tell.


We sell a customized kiosk driven entirely by Rev. This kiosk now uses 
a dual-core Pentium and a machine-vision camera capturing at 60 frames 
per second, all under Windows 7. We had problems when using a slower 
Atom processor, but the new processor allows the videograb functions to 
work much more smoothly. For example, even during video capture, the 
live Preview screen still shows fluid motion. Before, it would be jerky 
and only show perhaps 1/4 of the actual frames.


We're not seeing any syncing issues with the audio using this 
configuration. No crashing. No problems.


Richard


On 8/8/10 5:05 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Thanks, Stephen and Richard.

Because I'm selfishly focused on my immediate needs, can you clarify 
long grabs and problems?  Are long grabs like Stephen's two hours, 
or would five minutes qualify?  Are problems sync drift, or crashing, 
or memory leaks, or... something else?


My application will probably not be doing more than a few minutes per 
clip - but it will be doing lots and lots of them over a day. 
Obviously I'll be testing this for myself - but it would be good to 
have tips on what to look out for.


Many thanks,

Ben


On 08/08/2010 01:54, Richard Miller wrote:

Yes. Long grabs are where we've encountered problems.

Richard Miller



On 8/7/10 11:35 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Is it long grabs (my next set of tests) that is the problem?

Many thanks,

Ben

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Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window

2010-08-07 Thread Richard Miller

Yes. Long grabs are where we've encountered problems.

Richard Miller



On 8/7/10 11:35 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Is it long grabs (my next set of tests) that is the problem?

Many thanks,

Ben 


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Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window

2010-08-05 Thread Richard Miller

Ben,

We use the video grabber functions extensively in our software, but only 
on PC's (where it runs with adequate stability even for video grabs as 
long as 3-5 minutes). The PC side works much better than the Mac side.


The issue you are running into on a Mac is a known bug. You're not doing 
anything wrong. But I've not found it a problem to use 
revCloseVIdeoGrabber as often as needed (on Mac or PC side)... because 
you are right in saying it is the only way to get rid of the preview 
image on a Mac.


Richard Miller


On 8/5/10 5:39 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Docs for revStopPreviewingVideo says:
Stops showing input from a video camera in the video grabber window.
Use the revStopPreviewingVideo command to stop showing video input.
When you stop previewing video, the video grabber window shows a 
blank screen.


When I try this (rev 4.0 or later, on MacOS X 10.6) it doesn't show a 
blank screen, instead I'm left with a still of the last frame.  The 
only way to make it go away is to execute revCloseVideoGrabber.


Is this a known bug?  Am I doing something wrong?  Does anyone else 
experience this, or conversely has anyone experience of it working as 
documented?


TIA,

Ben
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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Miller

That does seem to be the problem. Thanks.

However, I can't figure out yet which setting it is. If I go into the 
Security tab in IE and disable Protected Mode for the 1st zone 
(Internet), the revlet works fine. But I prefer to find out which 
specific setting in that zone is causing the problem, so I can tell 
users what to do without compromising their IE security unnecessarily.


To do so, I've used the Custom Level button, which brings up a large 
number of options. I've been trying to disable many of those options 
(one at a time) to find the specific problem item, but I've not found it 
yet. It's in there somewhere, but I'm not sure which item might be the 
problem.


Any help would be appreciated. I'll keep trying.

Thanks.
Richard





On 7/18/10 11:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 7/17/10 10:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from
a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow
writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to
disk. Is there a way around this?


I'm not sure what's causing the problem but it sounds like a 
permissions issue. Doesn't IE block a lot of that kind of thing unless 
you set its internet security level lower?




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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Miller
I have tried disabling every possible Internet security setting in IE, 
but it will still not allow a revlet to save data to disk. The only 
method that works is to completely disable the entire Internet security 
zone. But few (if any) users would be comfortable doing that, as IE 
throws up all kinds of warnings. It's a bit bizarre that IE lets you go 
in and customize dozens of settings, yet none of them seem to effect 
this problem.


I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will 
be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use 
them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing 
some solution to this, but I can't find it.


Richard




On 7/19/10 8:05 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

That does seem to be the problem. Thanks.

However, I can't figure out yet which setting it is. If I go into the 
Security tab in IE and disable Protected Mode for the 1st zone 
(Internet), the revlet works fine. But I prefer to find out which 
specific setting in that zone is causing the problem, so I can tell 
users what to do without compromising their IE security unnecessarily.


To do so, I've used the Custom Level button, which brings up a large 
number of options. I've been trying to disable many of those options 
(one at a time) to find the specific problem item, but I've not found 
it yet. It's in there somewhere, but I'm not sure which item might be 
the problem.


Any help would be appreciated. I'll keep trying.

Thanks.
Richard





On 7/18/10 11:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 7/17/10 10:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:
After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run 
from

a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow
writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to
disk. Is there a way around this?


I'm not sure what's causing the problem but it sounds like a 
permissions issue. Doesn't IE block a lot of that kind of thing 
unless you set its internet security level lower?




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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Richard,

It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is displaying 
personal video data of the user (sports videos... golf, baseball, tennis 
swings, etc.). The user needs to be able to bring these videos up 
immediately... not have to wait for each to be downloaded each time the 
user wants to view one. I don't see any way around the need for local 
storage.


Richard




On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:


I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will
be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use
them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing
some solution to this, but I can't find it.


Would it be at all possible to store that data on the server like any 
other web app would do?


The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin is the truly 
frightening warning dialog which is absolutely necessary when a 
server-based component attempts to write anything it wants to a user's 
local drive:


http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884

It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the Rev community 
as a whole, to use server storage wherever possible.


--
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 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
 revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Miller
Found the solution... and it's an easy fix for the user. The user needs 
to bring up the Security tab in the IE options menu, click on Local 
Intranet, then just add our web site using the Sites button. Don't 
know why this works, but it does. No problem writing to disk after doing 
this.


Fortunately, it's easy for the revlet to detect this problem as soon as 
it starts up, simply by attempting to write and retrieve a file to the 
users computer. The solution can then be explained.


Richard... I agree with you about the horrendous warning that a revlet 
brings up. The only solution we know is to explain the warning to the 
user in advance. That should draw most of them in to proceeding. Of 
course, in our case, the user has some familiarity with our company. If 
they didn't, that warning message might still scare many away, even 
after explaining to them it's safe to proceed.


Richard Miller




On 7/19/10 11:04 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

Hi Richard,

It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is displaying 
personal video data of the user (sports videos... golf, baseball, 
tennis swings, etc.). The user needs to be able to bring these videos 
up immediately... not have to wait for each to be downloaded each time 
the user wants to view one. I don't see any way around the need for 
local storage.


Richard




On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:


I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will
be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't 
use

them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing
some solution to this, but I can't find it.


Would it be at all possible to store that data on the server like any 
other web app would do?


The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin is the truly 
frightening warning dialog which is absolutely necessary when a 
server-based component attempts to write anything it wants to a 
user's local drive:


http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884

It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the Rev community 
as a whole, to use server storage wherever possible.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
 revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Mike,

We already offer the standalone. But the idea of the user being able to 
access their videos directly through a browser is quite appealing, given 
that many people spend a lot (if not most) of their time in a browser 
these days.


Some of our users could be receiving videos sent to them throughout any 
given day, so it is convenient if they can leave the revlet open in a 
browser tab and simply retrieve, then view those videos, without having 
to leave their browser.


If it wasn't for the challenges presented both by the revlet plugin 
installation process and that nasty warning box, this concept is killer 
for convenience and simplicity.


Richard



On 7/19/10 11:52 AM, Michael Kann wrote:

Both Richards,

It seems like the user will have a collection of videos on his/her hard drive. 
Why not include a standalone RunRev program with the videos to organize and 
display the videos? Or am I missing something?

Mike

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Richard Millerw...@together.net  wrote:

   

From: Richard Millerw...@together.net
Subject: Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:04 AM
Hi Richard,

It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is
displaying personal video data of the user (sports videos...
golf, baseball, tennis swings, etc.). The user needs to be
able to bring these videos up immediately... not have to
wait for each to be downloaded each time the user wants to
view one. I don't see any way around the need for local
storage.

Richard




On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 

Richard Miller wrote:

   

I'd really like to hear from Revolution management
 

as to when this will
 

be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely
 

limited if you can't use
 

them to save any data to disk under Internet
 

Explorer. I may be missing
 

some solution to this, but I can't find it.
 

Would it be at all possible to store that data on the
   

server like any other web app would do?
 

The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin
   

is the truly frightening warning dialog which is absolutely
necessary when a server-based component attempts to write
anything it wants to a user's local drive:
 

http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884

It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the
   

Rev community as a whole, to use server storage wherever
possible.
 

--  Richard Gaskin
   Fourth World
   Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
   Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
   revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
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RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-17 Thread Richard Miller

This may be an ongoing problem, or I may be missing something.

I can't write data to a file under revweb, Internet Explorer on a PC, 
and either Vista or Windows 7. No problem writing data using Firefox on 
a PC. No problem reading data from a file with IE.


Is this a known problem? Any way to adjust for it? I'm using the latest 
version of Rev Enterprise.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data

2010-07-17 Thread Richard Miller
After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from 
a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow 
writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to 
disk. Is there a way around this?


Thanks.
Richard



On 7/17/10 10:06 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

This may be an ongoing problem, or I may be missing something.

I can't write data to a file under revweb, Internet Explorer on a PC, 
and either Vista or Windows 7. No problem writing data using Firefox 
on a PC. No problem reading data from a file with IE.


Is this a known problem? Any way to adjust for it? I'm using the 
latest version of Rev Enterprise.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Need a Rev DLL wrapper

2010-03-26 Thread Richard Miller
I have a DLL (and all the original C++ components) I want to access 
through Rev. I haven't found a straightforward way to create a Rev 
wrapper for this, since I don't know C++.


Suggestions?

I am willing to pay someone experienced in this process to create the 
wrapper, assuming it can be done quickly and at reasonable cost. Please 
reply to me offlist.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Need a Rev DLL wrapper

2010-03-26 Thread Richard Miller

Andre,

Is this the info to follow to try this:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/ext002.htm

Thanks.
Richard



On 3/26/2010 11:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

Richard,

Can't you call that DLL with VBScript? Might be easier than writing an
external

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Richard Millerw...@together.net  wrote:

   

I have a DLL (and all the original C++ components) I want to access through
Rev. I haven't found a straightforward way to create a Rev wrapper for this,
since I don't know C++.

Suggestions?

I am willing to pay someone experienced in this process to create the
wrapper, assuming it can be done quickly and at reasonable cost. Please
reply to me offlist.

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Finding USB volumes on Win

2010-03-22 Thread Richard Miller

Richard,

This has been working for me:

 repeat with i = number of lines of the volumes down to 1
 put line i of the volumes into x
 put getvolumesn(X) into z
end repeat

function GetVolumeSN pDiskLetter
  local volumeSerialNumber
  -- Supports both C, C: and C:\ styles
  put char 1 of pDiskLetter  : into pDisk
  set the hideConsoleWindows to true
  put shell(dir   pDisk) into tDirData
  get matchText(tDirData,Volume Serial Number is 
(.*)\n,volumeSerialNumber)

  if it is true then
return volumeSerialNumber
  else
return empty
  end if
end GetVolumeSN


Richard Miller



On 3/22/2010 10:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In January with the help of Phil, Peter, and others I got some great 
tips for identifying removable drives on OS X and Linux.  But I'm 
having difficulty figuring out how to do the same in Windows.


I can find the registry entries to determine which devices are 
mounted, but they don't contain the info which will let me know which 
drive letter they're associated with.


I've tried setting the shellCommand to diskpart and then using:

get shell(list volume)

...but that returns 2, which means a syntax error, even though that 
syntax works fine from the command line.


Any tips on how to identify mounted removable volumes and obtain their 
drive letters?  Extra bonus points if I could get their names too, for 
those that have been named.


TIA -

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Re: VideoGrabber on Windows

2010-03-22 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Klaus,

Is this topic still of interest to you? I've been working a lot with the 
videograbber on Windows.


Richard Miller



On 1/6/2010 12:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi friends,

no other win user that work with the RevVideoGrabber
and wants to share her/his experiences?

Oh, c'mon folks! :-)


Best

Klaus

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Re: revmobile looking good

2010-03-22 Thread Richard Miller

Can anyone confirm if the (video) player object works under revMobile?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



On 3/20/2010 11:57 PM, Terry Judd wrote:

Meanwhile, would it be possible to include iPad in the Simulator choices?
That script is password protected, so I can't go in and try adding that
myself.
   

A couple of days ago (just after the latest revMobile pre-alpha),
Apple released beta 5 of the iPhone 3.2 SDK and this is the first
version that allows submission of apps using 3.2 which also means the
first iPad apps.
I would expect that now they have a target, RunRev can link into this
and give us an iPad version soon.
 

It's all looking good so far - the ability to test on the iPad simulator,
even with the pre-alpha would be great.

What I'd like some info on is what sort of controls/interface objects are
likely to included in the IDE. I've started creating some replica 'native'
controls but don't want to go too far down this path if I don't have too.

Terry...

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Re: VideoGrabber on Windows

2010-03-22 Thread Richard Miller

Klaus,

Initialize the videograbber with this line:

   revInitializeVideoGrabber short name of this stack,DirectX,rect of 
image 1


Use this basic sequence to record video and audio:

  revSetVideoGrabSettings myvar
  revSetVideoGrabAudio true,1,16,16000
  revRecordVideo myfile

Don't use the newest videograbber.dll. I've found it does not allow 
access to the Compression dialog box. Use an older version. I can make 
it available if necessary. I reported this bug some time ago, but have 
not received a response from the engineers.


Use the new DivX (www.divx.com) codec for best results.

Let me know how that goes. The above works well for me under Windows 7.

Richard



On 3/22/2010 11:09 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Hi Richard,

   

Hi Klaus,

Is this topic still of interest to you? I've been working a lot with the 
videograbber on Windows.
 

yes, sure!

We had the chance to test VideoGrabber on Win7 and there is absolutely no way 
to use it with QuickTime.
Works with VfW but that does not support any standard VideoCodecs like DV*, 
what we need in our project.

*Out of the box!

   

Richard Miller

On 1/6/2010 12:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote:
 

Hi friends,
no other win user that work with the RevVideoGrabber
and wants to share her/his experiences?
Oh, c'mon folks! :-)
   

Best

Klaus

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Re: VideoGrabber on Windows

2010-03-22 Thread Richard Miller
Do not use VFW. The DirectX setting is not documented. Try to follow the 
code I sent. Disable use video for windows.


All of my video work with Rev is QT based.

Let me know.

Richard





On 3/22/2010 11:46 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Hi Richard,

   

Klaus,

Initialize the videograbber with this line:
   revInitializeVideoGrabber short name of this stack,DirectX,rect of image 1
 

is this DirectX the same as VfW?

   

Use this basic sequence to record video and audio:

  revSetVideoGrabSettings myvar
 

Getting/setting the videosettings did not work for us with VfW at all.
The variable was always empty!

   

  revSetVideoGrabAudio true,1,16,16000
 

Does this still work?
I have been searching this in the docs for at least the last three versions of 
Rev! :-/

   

  revRecordVideo myfile
Don't use the newest videograbber.dll. I've found it does not allow access to 
the Compression dialog box. Use an older version. I can make it available if 
necessary. I reported this bug some time ago, but have not received a response 
from the engineers.
Use the new DivX (www.divx.com) codec for best results.
 

See below, we need QuickTime for everything, since we are developing a 
crossplatform tool
which has to work out of the box.

   

Let me know how that goes. The above works well for me under Windows 7.
 

Basically it all works for us, but we need the user let record video in DV 
format, so we
can compress them with Trevors wonderful QT external.

Thanks anyway! :-)

   

Richard
 

Best

Klaus

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Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Richard Miller

And video. Can you create a video player and control it?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



On 3/5/2010 5:47 AM, René Micout wrote:

Hello Sarah,
What about music and sound capacities ?
René

Le 5 mars 2010 à 03:11, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

   

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Marian Petridesmpetri...@earthlink.net  wrote:
 

I'd love to hear your more detailed impressions, Sarah, and I bet others would 
too.  Meanwhile, thanks for the early preview!
   

Here is some more info:

Set your stack's font to Helvetica 14, the backColor to 200,200,200
and the look  feel to Motif to get the best preview of how it will
look on the iPhone without any skinning.

A multi-card stack works fine and moving into  out of sub-stacks works fine.

Not all text decoration works: there are no fonts and you can't
specify bold or italic, but all the other text styles work and you can
set colors.

I have used the photo picker and it works really well, but don't leave
an image on screen if you leave that card or the app usually crashes.

Images are a bit crashy - sometimes they work, other times they crash.

File handling: I have been able to list files in the app bundle,
create a new one and display it, download an image file and save it,
download a web page and show the htmlText.

File paths: you can get the defaultFolder which gives the full folder
to the app in my Library. Getting the filename of my stack gives a
much shorter path, with the app bundle being the root folder. I
haven't worked out yet how to save a file to the app's Documents
folder.

iPhone specific commands: I have tested the command that accesses the
photo library (  would do the camera if I was using a real iPhone) and
they work really well. Shaking  multi-touch all seem fine, although
on the simulator I haven't actually been able to multi-touch.
If you shake when typing in a text field, you get a dialog saying that
there is nothing to undo, so the shake has been correctly linked to
the undo mechanism, but the actual undo is not operational yet.

Rotation: seemingly not implemented yet, although the handbook
mentions that they cause the stack to get a resizeStack message. I
haven't been able to detect this, so I have no idea how they plan to
implement rotation. I tried activating the accelerometer but I can't
test that without installing on a real iPhone. It didn't make any
difference to the rotation - you still just see all the controls
turned sideways. I even tried changing to a wide stack to see if that
would help, but it didn't make any difference.

So basically, although it all looks weird, there is an awful lot of
Rev that just works. Images are the most flaky things I have
discovered.
As is usual with iPhone apps and Rev apps, errors don't make a fuss,
although the app can just quit quietly if something weird happens.

As regards future revMobile programming, the main things I will be
looking for are the native look  feel, rotation handling and better
image handling. Of these, the rotation is the most important as I need
to know how this will work in order to be able to plan my development.
The look  feel will not stop me developing, but you couldn't release
an iPhone app that looks like it's running under X11 :-)

Image handling is crucial because it has caused a lot of app crashes
in my tests.

Adding an icon to your app is super-easy. You just make a 57 x 57 png
file and tell revMobile the plugin. When the app installs, the iPhone
rounds the corners and adds the cool lighting effect.

If anyone would like me to test any aspect in particular, just let me know.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Encoding h.264 videos on Windows 7 through Rev

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Miller
What do I need to install to have h.264 show up as an option in the Rev 
video compression dialog box under Windows 7? Is there a codec I need to 
install?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Can Rev send Fn+F2 signal?

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Miller
I have a piece of hardware attached to a Lenovo netbook which needs a 
signal sent to it which would normally be generated by hitting FN+F2. I 
can no longer attach the original Lenovo keyboard (the unit is 
disassembled) to generate this signal. Unfortunately, hitting FN+2 on an 
external USB keyboard does not generate the necessary signal. Not sure 
why this is, but the manufacturer has verified an external USB keyboard 
cannot do this job (and there's no PS2 keyboard connector on this 
netbook). Unfortunately, they have not created a software driver to do 
this either.


Can I somehow do this through Rev? I'm running Windows 7.

Thanks.
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Re: Bill Marriott

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Miller

Kevin,

So sorry to hear of your loss. These moments are certainly trying.

How inspiring it is to experience such an outpouring of sincere emotion 
from this community of supporters you have created... like a large, 
extended family. Revolution is far more than just another product. This 
community surely reflects the richness of your inner world, Kevin 
and that of others, like Bill. How marvelous. Perhaps you can find some 
comfort in that.


Kind regards,
Richard Miller
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Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets

2009-12-25 Thread Richard Miller

Tim,

Put file:./// before the actual location of the QT video. So if the 
video is here c:/tim.mov, set the filename to:   file:///c:/tim.mov. 
If you're doing this on a Mac, be sure the actual location of the QT 
video starts with the name of your HD volume in the filename (but still 
following the file:/// syntax).


Best regards,
Richard Miller



Tim Lambert wrote:

Hi
Could anyone point me to a 'How-to' to get QT vids to play from an uploaded 
revlet? The vids are in the same folder as the uploaded Revlet, but nowr 
happens.

TIA.

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Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets

2009-12-25 Thread Richard Miller

Tim,

Jacqueline is right if the videos you are trying to access are on a 
remote server.


It's not been my experience that the alwaysBuffer setting matters in a 
revlet. Seems they'll always default to alwaysbuffer is true.


Richard




J. Landman Gay wrote:

Tim Lambert wrote:

Hi Could anyone point me to a 'How-to' to get QT vids to play from an
uploaded revlet? The vids are in the same folder as the uploaded
Revlet, but nowr happens.


That's how I do it. The videos are in the same folder with the revlet, 
then the script references them like this:


set the filename of player 1 to http://www.domain.com/folder/movie.mov;

I don't use the file:// syntax, because a revlet is like a local 
stack, and a fully qualified URL is fine as a reference. The file:// 
designation is only for files you want to retrieve from the user's 
local hard drive, not for those on your server.


Unless it got fixed without my noticing, players in revlets only work 
reliably if the alwaysBuffer property is set to false. That may be the 
issue in your revlet.




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Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets

2009-12-25 Thread Richard Miller

Tim,

One other point. Check to make sure the path to the video is 
case-proper. In my case, I often store videos on GoDaddy. I've found the 
filenames to be case-sensitive.


Richard

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Apple tablet + Rev

2009-12-24 Thread Richard Miller
The news seems to be pointing to the release of an Apple tablet, end of 
January. Given the indications that it's designed to run all IPhone 
apps, but with more resolution to work with, anyone care to guess what 
the likelihood is that it could run some variation of a Rev app... or is 
a Rev cgi script through a browser about all we can expect?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Any chance a Rev app or revlet could run on this?

2009-12-19 Thread Richard Miller
I realize the answer to this is probably, not anytime soon, but I can 
be hopeful:


http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel-qi-display-1866308/

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Revlets and firewalls

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Miller
I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to the 
outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall issues. 
Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall exception for a 
regular Rev app, since the location of the app is identifiable. How 
would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet residing somewhere 
locally for a time, or is it in memory?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Revlets and firewalls

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks, Matthias! I think that will do it.

What is it called on a Mac? I'm going to suggest users search for it on 
their computer to find the exact location under different OS's.


Richard


runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Hi Richard,

under Windows there is a file  revWebPlayer.exe, which is reponsible for the 
revlets.

it is found at C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Local\RunRev\

Try to make an exception for that file. This should do, i think.

HTH,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Revlets and firewalls (09-Dez-2009 16:09)
From:Richard Miller w...@together.net
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

  
I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to the 
outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall issues. 
Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall exception for a 
regular Rev app, since the location of the app is identifiable. How 
would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet residing somewhere 
locally for a time, or is it in memory?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Revlets and firewalls

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Luis,

As I said, normally when this occurs in my standard Rev app, the user 
need only create a firewall exception for my app. Communication usually 
works fine after that.  Are you saying this same approach won't work 
with a revlet?


Thanks.
Richard



Luis wrote:

Hiya,

The app location is irrelevant if it's a firewall issue. In this 
instance the firewall would need ports 20 and 21 open for ftp to go 
through.
Usually port 80 (or 8080) is open as this is used for standard http 
browsing protocol.


If you try to telnet (from a command line/terminal prompt to port 21 
(telnet 'ipaddress' 21 or telnet domain.com 21) and you do not receive 
a positive response then the port is blocked.


Cheers,

Luis.


On 9 Dec 2009, at 15:07, Richard Miller wrote:

I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to 
the outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall 
issues. Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall 
exception for a regular Rev app, since the location of the app is 
identifiable. How would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet 
residing somewhere locally for a time, or is it in memory?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Revlets and firewalls

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Miller
I just looked on my old Mac, and I see a file called revWebPlayer.app 
(inside /library/application support/RunRev/). Isn't that the file to 
create the exception for?


Richard



J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:

Thanks, Matthias! I think that will do it.

What is it called on a Mac? I'm going to suggest users search for it 
on their computer to find the exact location under different OS's.


There are three, in here:

~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/nprevweb.bundle
~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/nprevweb.plugin
~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/wkrevweb.webplugin



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Caching problem with revlets

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Miller

I really need help with this one.

To get at the heart of a few problems, I just put some code into my 
revlet to check that when a user opens my revlet, this person actually 
has the latest version. Just got word from one user (Vista + IE) that 
the revlet he recently accessed was an older version. So caching is 
taking place.


This code doesn't do the job:

head
META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0
/head

Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Caching problem with revlets

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Miller

Martin,

Thanks. I only wish I knew what you are talking about! I will read the 
article.


The revlet is stored on a GoDaddy server. Is that apache? Can I do the 
things you suggest, given where it is stored?


Richard


Martin Baxter wrote:

Richard

if:

a you are using apache
b mod_expires is installed
c you can use .htaccess files

Then you should be able to use expires directives in an .htaccess file
to inhibit cacheing based on media type (extension).

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_expires.html

I don't know if that will work, I haven't tried it, but I think it has
more chance than cache control meta tags, which are known to be
ineffective IIRC. It's the way I would try and do it anyway.

Also, possibly helpful article on cacheing generally:

http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/

Martin Baxter

Richard Miller wrote:
  

I really need help with this one.

To get at the heart of a few problems, I just put some code into my
revlet to check that when a user opens my revlet, this person actually
has the latest version. Just got word from one user (Vista + IE) that
the revlet he recently accessed was an older version. So caching is
taking place.

This code doesn't do the job:

head
META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0
/head

Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller





  


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Can specialfolderpath(26) be blocked for write access?

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Miller
I have one user in which my revlet is attempting to create a folder 
within specialfolderpath(26) [the AppData location], but it does not get 
created. I've tried it numerous times. It just won't go through. This is 
on a Vista machine.


Under what conditions can this possibly happen? I thought this AppData 
folder was a safe and unrestricted folder to write to? Can this be 
blocked by Vista itself or by some other program?


If this folder is not reliable, where would one guess IS a safe place to 
create a folder and store files under Vista? This same user's computer 
has the DOCUMENTS folder blocked for writing as well.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller
I have entered the testing phase with my new software based on the 
revweb plugin, and would appreciate any and all feedback (negative, 
positive, suggestions whatever) from anyone who wants to check it over.


The site is still rough around the edges... plus, I have little in the 
way of graphics skills, so it doesn't look as cool or tight as it could. 
But functionally, it has all the right pieces. I have about 30 users 
testing it now before it goes public... which won't be until a new 
version of the plugin is released. I've had to work around the ongoing 
revweb problems regarding cursors (no busy, draw or hand cursor), the 
lack of a dependable Answer dialog box, the lack of direct Externals 
support, and a few other things. Hopefully, these will all be fixed 
soon. Also note it does not seem to run under Windows 7 and IE (not sure 
about Firefox).


The main purposes of this site are as follows:

1. Allow users to easily import their sports videos into the system, 
following which they can review their motion frame-by-frame. I've set 
the site up generically, so it is as useful to baseball, tennis, etc. as 
it is to golf (my original core focus area).  The software should handle 
most common video formats. It uses ffmpeg to convert any 
non-Quicktime-compatible formats to MOV.


2. Let users compare their motion to professionals (i.e. model videos 
in the Directory)


3. Let them easily edit these videos (which are often 20 - 100 mb in 
size coming off the camera) so the file size is 1 mb or so, from which 
they can then quickly send those videos to anyone else for review (using 
just an email address). The receiver views the video in my program. You 
can test this function using the Sample Video (in the Directory) under 
the Imported Videos section. Click on it, then Edit Video.


4. Most importantly, allow pro's to do a voice-over analysis (including 
lines, circles and polygons) of a swing using the Create Analysis button 
in the Compare screen. This analysis can then be quickly sent to others 
(typically students) for review through my site.


5. Make the program easy to use, convenient (since it runs in a 
browser... which is where all the action seems to be these days), and 
inexpensive ($69).


6. Make it Windows, Mac and (soon) Linux compatible.

It's all here:  www.swingbrowser.com

Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller

David,

Thanks for taking a look at it. Isn't that just the way these things 
go... works for you, but not for Nicolas. Same basic configuration. 
Vista. Firefox. Same plugin. Different results. More digging ahead...


The files are all in a Swing Browser folder... either in Documents or 
the AppData folder. Just dump the folder. I do need to create an 
uninstaller. An uninstaller for a web site... sounds like a new concept.


Richard




David Coker wrote:

Richard,
Although I'm not sure what all is supposed to be functional, I was able to view 
some golfing videos after browsing around a bit to find where they were located 
in the program. Also took a snapshot of one and saved it to my desktop. All of 
the above on a RC running Vista and Firefox.

Pretty nifty concept, but nothing I can use. ;)

My only question at this point... where are all of the files located that were 
downloaded so that I may remove them from my computer?

Best regards,
David C.


  

- Original Message -
From: Richard Miller w...@together.net
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 8:37:28 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Swing Browser is in testing

I have entered the testing phase with my new software based on the 
revweb plugin, and would appreciate any and all feedback (negative, 
positive, suggestions whatever) from anyone who wants to check it over.


The site is still rough around the edges... plus, I have little in the 
way of graphics skills, so it doesn't look as cool or tight as it could. 
But functionally, it has all the right pieces. I have about 30 users 
testing it now before it goes public... which won't be until a new 
version of the plugin is released. I've had to work around the ongoing 
revweb problems regarding cursors (no busy, draw or hand cursor), the 
lack of a dependable Answer dialog box, the lack of direct Externals 
support, and a few other things. Hopefully, these will all be fixed 
soon. Also note it does not seem to run under Windows 7 and IE (not sure 
about Firefox).


The main purposes of this site are as follows:

1. Allow users to easily import their sports videos into the system, 
following which they can review their motion frame-by-frame. I've set 
the site up generically, so it is as useful to baseball, tennis, etc. as 
it is to golf (my original core focus area).  The software should handle 
most common video formats. It uses ffmpeg to convert any 
non-Quicktime-compatible formats to MOV.


2. Let users compare their motion to professionals (i.e. model videos 
in the Directory)


3. Let them easily edit these videos (which are often 20 - 100 mb in 
size coming off the camera) so the file size is 1 mb or so, from which 
they can then quickly send those videos to anyone else for review (using 
just an email address). The receiver views the video in my program. You 
can test this function using the Sample Video (in the Directory) under 
the Imported Videos section. Click on it, then Edit Video.


4. Most importantly, allow pro's to do a voice-over analysis (including 
lines, circles and polygons) of a swing using the Create Analysis button 
in the Compare screen. This analysis can then be quickly sent to others 
(typically students) for review through my site.


5. Make the program easy to use, convenient (since it runs in a 
browser... which is where all the action seems to be these days), and 
inexpensive ($69).


6. Make it Windows, Mac and (soon) Linux compatible.

It's all here:  www.swingbrowser.com

Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller

Nicolas,

No explanations... yet. But thanks for looking. I haven't received any 
other reports of the problem you encountered, but I'll dig into it. Will 
likely contact you offline.


The frustrating thing is that there's no way to know how many problems 
like this are due to the plugin. Most folks testing the site are finding 
nearly all of it working well. But then there are about 25% of users 
having problems in areas that work fine for others.


Richard


Nicolas Cueto wrote:

Richard,

Just out of curiosity, checked out your site. Unfortunately, it's not
working on my setup (Vista, Firefox 3.5.5, revApp 4.0.0-rc-1 build
940).

Here's what I see at my end. A window with a left-side menu and a
downloading message appears. During downloading, a screen object
that I guess is a progress bar also appears (can't tell for sure,
cause it remains one solid white color thruout the download). When the
downloading message and object disappear, there's a twirling
multi-colored icon/cursor, which simply disappears when clicked-on.
Then, at last, I'm left with just a black window with that left-side
menu, which is unclickable.

Tried it a couple of times, and the same results each time.

--
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Re: Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller

Nicolas,

Yes... this can be a bit frustrating. Just walked another user through 
the startup process. He's using XP and IE. Wouldn't work at all. He 
switched to Firefox and everything worked perfectly. Not a single problem.


The black screen you are seeing is just a protective graphic to prevent 
users from interacting too soon. But it should disappear at the end of 
the startup process. So something is not completing right. I'll be 
digging into this tomorrow AM.


Thanks for helping. I appreciate it. All this testing is helping uncover 
the nuances of the plugin... and it's many inconsistencies. It's 
definitely not ready for show time.


Richard




Nicolas Cueto wrote:

Richard,

I tried it again, this time after updating my Rev plugin version.

One very small difference this time. Right before the downloading
message appears, for a very brief second I can see an image of a
golfer and some other screen objects. But after downloading is done,
it's the same blackscreen with a left-side menu.

Tried it on IE8. Same as above -- brief glimpse of a golfer/objects,
and then blackscreen/menu.

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Re: Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller

Hi David,

The folder is called Swing Browser. It should be in AppData, which I 
believe is a hidden folder. I put the files in there because there 
seemed to be some consensus here that specialfolderpath(26) was a good 
place for Rev files. If you open Rev and type specialfolderpath(26) in 
the msg box, it should give you the pathway.


Richard



David Coker wrote:

Hey Richard.

...well now, there lies the problem. I followed the path that was displayed 
withing the program and didn't find any such folder as you've described. Just 
did a complete search for the entire computer and all users as Admin and still 
didn't locate anything. How about sharing one single file name and I'll give 
that a try?


Best regards,
David C.



  

The files are all in a Swing Browser folder... either in Documents or
the AppData folder. Just dump the folder. I do need to create an
uninstaller. An uninstaller for a web site... sounds like a new concept.


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Re: Swing Browser is in testing

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Miller
The only printing that is working is through Rev's print this card from 
xx to yy. That works fine. Printing from the browser's print command 
doesn't appear to work.


Yeah... I figured I'd post info about the site here to help sort out 
more revweb issues. Hopefully, this process will serve a bunch of us.


It really would be helpful to hear something from Revolution about the 
status of the next plugin update. Just to know if we're a week away... a 
month away... or considerably longer till the plugin reaches some level 
of reliability.


Richard



Nicolas Cueto wrote:

No problem, Richard.

  

the nuances of the plugin... and it's many inconsistencies. It's definitely not
ready for show time.



Which is a large reason for my helping you out. I figure you butting
heads with it now makes my revlet life easier later on.

Speaking of which. Does Swing Browser do print-outs of revlet
window-contents to paper thru a browser's (not a revlet's) Print
function?

I've tried but, when my IE/Firefox prints out, everything on the
webpage gets copied onto paper except for the revlet frame and its
contents.

Just wondering.

Anyway, good luck on the Swing Browser to revlet transition.

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Re: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE

2009-11-28 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Matthias,

I heard something about changing a setting to Vista SP2, but I can't 
test that and don't know precisely what it means. I look forward to 
hearing from you on Monday.


Richard



runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Hi Richard,

i think that has to do with security settings in IE. I also have a customer, 
which cannot use the plugin. He always just sees the image with the link to the 
Download section.

On monday i will check that settings on his machine, then i will know more.


Btw.: I had to place my on no-web-plugin image, because the default link in the html-file, which Revolution creates, is not valid. 


Regards,

Matthias



 Original Message 
Subject: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE (27-Nov-2009 19:57)
From:Richard Miller w...@together.net
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

  

Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE.
After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is
missing.

I have submitted a report.

Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it?

Thanks.
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Revlet caching (was...Safari caches revlet)

2009-11-27 Thread Richard Miller

I've tried using this code in my static html revlet launch page, but I'm
not convinced it is causing the revlet to be reloaded each time changes
are made:

head
META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0
/head


Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



Brian Yennie wrote:
One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded 
is to use a cache busting URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a 
query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version.


myrevlet.rev === myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 === myrevlet.rev?v=2.0  etc.

From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query 
string on the end. New URL = fresh copy.


Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static 
page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung. 
Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished 
with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl, 
client-side Javascript, etc).


Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus 
causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do 
this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to 
control.


Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than 
emptying the cache?
When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the 
new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.


Thanks,


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Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE

2009-11-27 Thread Richard Miller

Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE.
After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is
missing.

I have submitted a report.

Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Miller

Thierry,

Could be. I'm not familiar with this.

I'm trying this:

get shell (chmod + x MyExecutableFileName)

When I run this in the msg box, it returns 1. But I see no change to 
the app. It still looks like a text document... not a Unix Executable File.


Richard




Thierry D. wrote:


Le 25 nov. 09 à 08:12, Richard Miller a écrit :


Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work.



Could it be that you only need to set the executable bit ?

chmod +x your file

HTH,
Thierry


I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev 
application bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz 
file; ftp it; then decompress it. The file size is identical upon 
arrival, but it is no longer recognized as an executable... only a 
text document.


I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url 
binfile:xxx into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing?  I am 
transferring from a Mac server to a Mac computer.


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Re: How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Miller

I believe that did it. Enormous thanks to you.
Richard


Thierry D. wrote:


Le 25 nov. 09 à 13:07, Richard Miller a écrit :


Thierry,

Could be. I'm not familiar with this.

I'm trying this:

get shell (chmod + x MyExecutableFileName)



typo ?

Need to be +x , not + x !

When I run this in the msg box, it returns 1. But I see no change 
to the app. It still looks like a text document... not a Unix 
Executable File


try get shell( ls -l ) then.

you should see in  something like this :

-rw-rw-r--   1 thierry  thierry   2979 Feb  5  2007 rev2perlInit.c
-rw-r--r--   1 thierry  thierry   2559 Mar 28  2007 ToCopyInStack.dat
-rwxrwxrwx   1 thierry  thierry   3797 Mar 28  2007 TranslatePm2c.pl
-rw-r--r--   1 thierry  thierry577 Feb  2  2007 rev2perl.c

r: read
w: write
x: executable

1st 3 letters for user, next 3 for group, last 3 for others.

On my samples, you can see that TranslatePm2c.pl can be executed by all,
but not the other files.

Regards,
Thierry




Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work.



Could it be that you only need to set the executable bit ?

chmod +x your file

HTH,
Thierry


I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev 
application bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz 
file; ftp it; then decompress it. The file size is identical upon 
arrival, but it is no longer recognized as an executable... only a 
text document.


I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url 
binfile:xxx into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing?  I am 
transferring from a Mac server to a Mac computer.


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Revlet caching (was...Safari caches revlet)

2009-11-24 Thread Richard Miller
I've tried using this code in my static html revlet launch page, but I'm 
not convinced it is causing the revlet to be reloaded each time changes 
are made:


head
META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache
META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0 
/head



Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



Brian Yennie wrote:
One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded 
is to use a cache busting URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a 
query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version.


myrevlet.rev === myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 === myrevlet.rev?v=2.0  etc.

From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query 
string on the end. New URL = fresh copy.


Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static 
page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung. 
Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished 
with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl, 
client-side Javascript, etc).


Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus 
causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do 
this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to 
control.


Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than 
emptying the cache?
When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the 
new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.


Thanks,


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Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE

2009-11-24 Thread Richard Miller
Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE. 
After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is 
missing.


I have submitted a report.

Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev

2009-11-24 Thread Richard Miller

Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work.

I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev application 
bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz file; ftp it; then 
decompress it. The file size is identical upon arrival, but it is no 
longer recognized as an executable... only a text document.


I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url binfile:xxx 
into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing?  I am transferring from a 
Mac server to a Mac computer.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?

2009-11-23 Thread Richard Miller
I didn't, but since this bug was discussed in some detail a while back, 
I believe others have submitted it. It's a rather serious loss of 
functionality on the Mac side that the engineers must be aware of.


Richard



Robert Brenstein wrote:

On 22.11.09 at 07:53 -0500 Richard Miller apparently wrote:
Solved it. It was that bug in revweb that requires the security 
window (under OSX 10.4.11, at least) to be slightly moved before 
buttons on it will respond. I certainly hope this bug is resolved 
very shortly.


Richard Miller



Did you enter it into the bug tracker aka qcc ?

Robert
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Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?

2009-11-23 Thread Richard Miller
I entered it. It's not clear if it was already entered, but it's 
certainly in there now.

Richard


Robert Brenstein wrote:

On 23.11.09 at 17:01 -0500 Richard Miller apparently wrote:
I didn't, but since this bug was discussed in some detail a while 
back, I believe others have submitted it. It's a rather serious loss 
of functionality on the Mac side that the engineers must be aware of.


Richard



I suggest you find it to make sure that it is actually entered by 
someone. The engineers do not follow discussions here. If it is 
entered, extra votes are always helpful to indicate that more people 
are affected.


Robert
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Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?

2009-11-22 Thread Richard Miller
Solved it. It was that bug in revweb that requires the security window 
(under OSX 10.4.11, at least) to be slightly moved before buttons on it 
will respond. I certainly hope this bug is resolved very shortly.


Richard Miller



Richard Miller wrote:
Just tried getting a revlet to run on an older G4 IBook (PPC), OSX 
10.4.11. I can get as far as the security page for revweb, but that's 
it. Clicking on Allow Always, Allow Once or Deny does nothing. Have to 
force quit Firefox at that point. Same results under Safari. All 
software on this unit was just updated, including the latest revweb 
plugin for Mac PPC.


Anyone have any luck with this configuration or is it a known bug?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?

2009-11-21 Thread Richard Miller
Just tried getting a revlet to run on an older G4 IBook (PPC), OSX 
10.4.11. I can get as far as the security page for revweb, but that's 
it. Clicking on Allow Always, Allow Once or Deny does nothing. Have to 
force quit Firefox at that point. Same results under Safari. All 
software on this unit was just updated, including the latest revweb 
plugin for Mac PPC.


Anyone have any luck with this configuration or is it a known bug?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Centering revlet in browser

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Miller
How do I get a revlet to run centered in the browser? I thought a 
regular align=center tag at the top of the html script would do it, but 
apparently code is needed elsewhere.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Centering revlet in browser

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Miller

Solved it.
Richard


Richard Miller wrote:
How do I get a revlet to run centered in the browser? I thought a 
regular align=center tag at the top of the html script would do it, 
but apparently code is needed elsewhere.


Thanks.
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Re: Centering revlet in browser

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Miller
The correct tags are right at the beginning of the test.html file that 
is automatically created after making the revlet. I just had to leave in 
the CENTER and H1 tags, removing the title only. That did it.


Richard



Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Richard,

  

Solved it.



could you please tell us how you solved this?

Thanks!

  

Richard



Best

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Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller
I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb 
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on 
my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little 
uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works 
quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but 
will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks 
here to help in the testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon 
(in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have 
to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting 
down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, 
they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be 
concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev 
plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a 
revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security 
concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I 
hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older 
version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world 
experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone 
else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller

Andre,

Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version 
(or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group 
of users. or both?


Richard




Andre Garzia wrote:

Richard,

I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of
users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch
the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue.

Andre

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my
existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain
about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well).
I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more
thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the
testing process.

One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon
(in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to
reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down
their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to
do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this
process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter,
what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to
essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than
the registry)?

Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I
hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older
version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to
date.

Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone
else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?

Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Ed,

What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful info.

Thanks.
Richard



Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote:

Hi Richard,

I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough 
local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had 
problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta 
release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in 
these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments.


We only get one chance at first impressions.

Ed


On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb 
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based 
on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little 
uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly 
works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so 
far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including 
asking folks here to help in the testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again 
soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users 
will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new 
version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then 
restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, 
but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent 
with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them 
about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore 
the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and 
browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a 
somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb 
real-world experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has 
anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this 
matter?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Miller
Unfortunately, despite repeated tries, I can't get an answer from Rev 
about this issue of setting the cursor to busy in revweb. I don't know 
why they would keep this info a secret and leave developers hanging on 
such a fundamental matter, but that seems to be the case.


For now, I have to accept that this functionality won't be available any 
time soon in revweb. Is this what other developers are assuming as well? 
Obviously, I can build a field or button that alerts the user when the 
program is busy, but it's extra work I could do without.


I'm not asking Rev to fix this now (though that would be nice). I 
realize they have a lot on their plates. But I am asking for information 
on this so folks like myself can take appropriate action.


Thanks.
Richard Miller





J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:

Cursors were included in the build.
Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered custom. 


What I'm thinking is that the engine can't manipulate cursors at all 
(and I don't know how easy that is to do within a browser.) So I 
suspect by custom they mean anything that isn't the system cursor, 
which the browser applies by default.




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Re: WindowID and Revlet ?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Miller
Here's what I do to export a snapshot in RevWeb. I'd guess the same code 
works for import snapshot.


This is exporting a snapshot of a player object into a file fname.

  if development is in the environment then
 put the rect of player 1 into temp
 put item 1 of the topleft of this stack into x
 put item 2 of the topleft of this stack into y
 put item 1 of temp + x into x1
 put item 2 of temp + y into y1
 put item 3 of temp + x into x2
 put item 4 of temp + y into y2
 put x1  comma  y1  comma  x2  comma  y2 into temp2
 export snapshot from rect temp2 to file fname as jpeg
  else
 put item 1 of the topleft of this stack into tx
 put item 2 of the topleft of this stack into ty
 put item 1 of the topleft of player 1 + tx into temp2
 put item 2 of the topleft of player 1 + ty into item 2 of temp2
 put the bottomright of player 1 into bx
 put item 1 of bx + tx into item 3 of temp2
 put item 2 of bx + ty into item 4 of temp2
 export snapshot from rect temp2 to file fname as jpeg
  end if

Hope that does it for you.
Richard Miller



Ludovic Thébault wrote:

Hello,

I need to do an import snapshot on a portion of my stack. But if it's work well 
in revMedia, on the web, the snapshot seem to be relative to the corner of the 
browser's window, not the stack's window.

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Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Jan,

I didn't create a formal report, but have sent several emails about this 
directly to Kevin. Hard to believe those wouldn't get to the proper 
place, but I probably should file this in the QC center as well.


Richard



Jan Schenkel wrote:

Hi Richard,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record: have you filed this in the 
Quality Control Center? I had a quick search for the words revlet and cursor 
(both together and apart), and couldn't find such a report.
It only takes a minute to fill out a bug report, and the more information they 
have (example script or ven a complete example stack), the quicker they can 
find the underlying cause.

The good news is: since the release cycle of the revWeb plug-in is separate 
from the revMedia/Studio/Enterprise IDE, this sort of corrections can be 
release separately in an incremental patch.

But the best way to ensure the RunRev team tackles this, is to report each 
problem you encounter. And until they implement a fix, you can look for a 
workaround.
In this case, you could disable controls, maybe overlaying everything with a 
white rectangle that has blendlevel 30, and on top of that a regular progress 
bar, or even an indeterminate progress bar image.

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--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
  

Unfortunately, despite repeated
tries, I can't get an answer from Rev about this issue of
setting the cursor to busy in revweb. I don't know why they
would keep this info a secret and leave developers hanging
on such a fundamental matter, but that seems to be the
case.

For now, I have to accept that this functionality won't be
available any time soon in revweb. Is this what other
developers are assuming as well? Obviously, I can build a
field or button that alerts the user when the program is
busy, but it's extra work I could do without.

I'm not asking Rev to fix this now (though that would be
nice). I realize they have a lot on their plates. But I am
asking for information on this so folks like myself can take
appropriate action.

Thanks.
Richard Miller





J. Landman Gay wrote:


Richard Miller wrote:
  

Cursors were included in the build.
Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered

custom. 


What I'm thinking is that the engine can't manipulate
  

cursors at all (and I don't know how easy that is to do
within a browser.) So I suspect by custom they mean
anything that isn't the system cursor, which the browser
applies by default.

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Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Miller

I hear you Jan. No problem.

My thought was not to expect a response from Kevin, but that it takes 
only a few seconds for him to forward it to the appropriate party. But 
I'll file a formal report now.


Richard



Jan Schenkel wrote:

This may sound rude, Richard, but please don't bug Kevin directly about this 
sort of thing. He is the _manager_ of the company, and even if he likes 
scripting himself (which he does), his job is to run the business and ensure 
its commercial success. He receives loads of emails every day, and it may take 
him quite a while to respond - and the man does deserve a vacation every once 
in a while ;-)

There are procedures in place for when you encounter issues: email 
supp...@runrev.com for any problems you encounter, and they will be routed to 
the correct person, depending on the content of the email.
And please file any bug using the Quality Control Center. That's where the 
software engineers will look.

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Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Miller
I heard this message three hours ago and stated I was filing a report 
then. It's been done.

Richard Miller



stephen barncard wrote:

Richard,

it only takes a few seconds for you to post it at the bug report site if you
want those who will fix the problem to see your entry.  Emails are a lousy
bug fixing support tool, hard to collect, distribute and file.   Please
don't *bug* the CEO on support matters He's working on the 'next big
thing'.
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev



2009/11/14 Richard Miller w...@together.net:
  

I hear you Jan. No problem.

My thought was not to expect a response from Kevin, but that it takes only


a
  

few seconds for him to forward it to the appropriate party. But I'll file


a
  

formal report now.

Richard





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Re: Getting the line number from on menupick

2009-11-13 Thread Richard Miller

Jan,

Thanks! Works perfectly. Exactly what I was looking for.

Richard Miller



Jan Schenkel wrote:

Well, rev 3.5 introduced something called menu 'tagging' - here's a copy from 
the IDE change log included with rev 3.5

===

Menu-item tagging
~

The menu item specification has been extended to allow a tag to be specified. 
It is now of the form:
  label [ '/' [ accelerator ] [ '|' tag ] ]
Note that the tag is optional as is the accelerator however, if you want an 
item with a tag but without the accelerator you need:
  label '/' '|' tag
  
The tag must only be composed of characters from the ASCII character set.
  
If a menu item has a tag then it is the tag string that is passed to menuPick rather than the label. This is useful for localization of menu items as you don't need to change the menuPick handler for each language supported.


The following tags should be used to label the standard edit menu items to 
enable them to be controlled by the system dialogs on Mac OS X (e.g. answer 
file, ask file etc.):
  undo, redo, cut, copy, paste, clear, select all, preferences

Note: You should not mix the use of tags and no tags in Unicode menus. Doing so 
will cause empty values for all unicode items without tags.

===

Even though it sounds like it's only for menubar menus, tagging works for any 
type of menu. So you can use this knowledge to make the text:

My Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|1
My Subgroup/|2
tabMy Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|3
My Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|4

And then your menupick will automagically get the 'tag' value as the line 
number; of course with sub-menus, you get a pipe-delimited list of tags, with 
the entire hierarchy.

So assuming that you change the text of your menu to the above style, your 
script could be something like:
##
on menuPick pItemTag
  set the itemDelimiter to |
  put the last item of pItemTag into tLineNumber
  ...
end menuPick
##

Menu tags also greatly simplify multilingual apps, as we can now just tag the 
items in our preferred language (or english, for consistency with the MacOSX 
presets) and work with the tag in our scripts.

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--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
  

I have a pulldown button with data in
it that makes it act as a cascading menu. When the user
selects an item, I need to know which item has been
selected... not just the text, but the line number or some
other data that would let me know which item was selected,
so I can get more info about that item from an associated
database.

The problem I have is that many of the lines in the
cascading menu appear identical by name, though they are not
the same item. It's just that the label assigned by the user
is the same (they represent names of videos and the user
can name them any way they want, even though the actual file
names are different).

Any given line in the menu may be 5-10 words long... which
as it is, makes the menu rather wide. I could add an
identifying tag after each line [ such as (1), (2), etc.],
but that's not very elegant (but perhaps the only
solution).

I tried using:

put the selectedlines of me
put the menuhistory of me

But these don't seem to work with cascading menus.

Any tricks here that would give me the line number
selected?

Thanks.
Richard Miller





  
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Re: Getting the line number from on menupick

2009-11-13 Thread Richard Miller

Jacqueline,

In this situation, the instance of duplicate menu items actually serves 
the end user, as it encourages them to create more descriptive labels. 
These menu items are videos that have been imported into my program. The 
original video file names are just a series of numbers (like 
12453253.mov). When they get imported into my program, they are assigned 
a label, un-named video. This label is what users see in the pulldown 
menu when they go to access one of these videos. So unless they've given 
the video a more descriptive label (they can label a video just about 
anything they want), the menu can display a list with some items of the 
same name.


Yes, I could automatically label each incoming video with a sequentially 
higher number, like un-named video 11, un-named video 12, etc., but 
that process actually gets rather messy in my program and tends to 
discourage people from relabeling the videos.


Richard Miller




J. Landman Gay wrote:

dunb...@aol.com wrote:

Jacque:

I could not get a valid line number for a submenu. I understand using 
a secondary routine to find   the line number in the button contents, 
since I can find the menuPicked text, but are you saying you can get 
the line number directly?


No, I was only saying what you describe -- getting the lineoffset of 
the menupick param in the contents of the button. But that relies on 
each menu item being different, which I don't see as a disadvantage. I 
can't think of any software where duplicate menu items would be 
considered okay.




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Re: folders in revlet

2009-11-13 Thread Richard Miller

Just change this line:

   set the filename of image 1 to gSlide

to this:

   put url (binfile:  gSlide) into image 1

It's the way it has to be for revlets.

Richard Miller



Rick Rice wrote:


Just for the heck of it I decided to have a look at Revolution Media 
4.0.0. To this point I have been using Revolution 2.6.1.
The ability to save your stack for the web blew me away. Only one 
problem, I store hundreds of images in separate folders and call them 
into the stack as I need them. This doesn't work in the revlet. I 
imagine many on this list have solved this problem. Could someone post 
the appropriate script so that the revlet can access images stored in 
separate folders.

Thanks
Rick

The way I do it now is:
first I find the folder with the images

on gettheImageList
  global stackaddress, stackpath
  put the filename of this stack into stackpath
  set itemdel to /
  If (IsOSX()) then  -- to get Mac path
get offset(.app/Contents/MacOS/, stackpath)
if it  0 then -- 2.4.3 or later
  delete char it to len(stackpath) of stackpath
end if
  end if
  delete the last item of stackpath
  put stackpath into stackaddress
  put /urinalysisTestImages after stackaddress
end gettheImageList

Then I pick an image put it into gSlide and display it like this:

on displayimage
  global gSlide, stackaddress, correctanswer
  put stackaddress  gSlide into gSlide
  set the filename of image 1 to gSlide
  show image 1
end displayimage

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set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Miller
Is that what others are finding as well. that setting the cursor to 
busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps this is a 
known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure.


If this is a problem and isn't going to be fixed very shortly, I'll need 
to revise all those lines of code to provide some other type of feedback 
to users. So before undertaking that task, I'm checking in with others.


Thanks.
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Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Miller

Cursors were included in the build.
Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered custom. It's the only 
easy way of telling people the software is busy doing something. I'm 
sure they are working on it. I just wanted to find out if maybe this 
already worked in other environments.


Richard


J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
Is that what others are finding as well. that setting the cursor 
to busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps 
this is a known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure.


It was listed on the troubleshooting page; custom cursors are not yet 
supported. I'm not sure if the busy cursor is considered custom; did 
you make sure to include cursors before you built the revlet? If so, 
then I guess busy is custom.




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Getting the line number from on menupick

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Miller
I have a pulldown button with data in it that makes it act as a 
cascading menu. When the user selects an item, I need to know which item 
has been selected... not just the text, but the line number or some 
other data that would let me know which item was selected, so I can get 
more info about that item from an associated database.


The problem I have is that many of the lines in the cascading menu 
appear identical by name, though they are not the same item. It's just 
that the label assigned by the user is the same (they represent names of 
videos and the user can name them any way they want, even though the 
actual file names are different).


Any given line in the menu may be 5-10 words long... which as it is, 
makes the menu rather wide. I could add an identifying tag after each 
line [ such as (1), (2), etc.], but that's not very elegant (but perhaps 
the only solution).


I tried using:

put the selectedlines of me
put the menuhistory of me

But these don't seem to work with cascading menus.

Any tricks here that would give me the line number selected?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Getting the line number from on menupick

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Miller
I did check the dictionary, and that trip me up item is in there. 
That's why I said menuhistory doesn't work with a cascading menu 
is there another way?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


dunb...@aol.com wrote:
The menuHistory is a property that returns the line number of the 
menuitem selected. It does not matter how complex the menuItem is, since these are 
delimited by returns. But check out the dictionary; there is something about 
cascading menus that might trip you up.


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Re: Rev 4.0.0-gm-1 is now available through Rev Update Checker

2009-11-11 Thread Richard Miller
I'm not having any success installing RevMedia 4.0 under XP and I've 
never had a problem installing any Rev program before. Tried numerous 
times. Tried restarting. I get part  way through, then a Rev error code 
comes up (which I have sent to the Rev engineers). Anyone else had 
success under XP?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Rev 4.0.0-gm-1 is now available through Rev Update Checker

2009-11-11 Thread Richard Miller

That did it. Thanks Kevin. Total uninstall of the beta version is necessary.

All the RevMedia bugs I had reported appear corrected. Great work!

Thanks.
Richard Miller


Kevin Miller wrote:

On 11/11/2009 11:41, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

  

SO:  get version 4 from here:

https://secure.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/

and do a full install.
  

The revMedia for Mac there fails to install.



If you have the alpha/beta installed, try deleting it first.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: New build of the plugin

2009-11-07 Thread Richard Miller
I've reported these three bugs. Perhaps others can verify. I've only 
tested under XP and Firefox.



This sequence will crash RevWeb:

set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath(desktop)
put the detailed files
-
This does not appear to work during runtime:

click at 0,0

mousedoubledown requires 3 mouse clicks... not 2 during runtime
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Where to store data under Windows

2009-11-07 Thread Richard Miller
I know this topic has been talked about before where to store Rev 
stacks that will be frequently (and automatically) updated when running 
under Windosw.  As a result, I've followed the general guidance of 
storing these stacks in the Documents folder. This seems to avoid any 
problems with the Windows virtual folders issue. I haven't actually 
tested this under Windows 7, but I assume it is still a valid and safe 
place.


However, I'm running into a new issue. My program stores video files in 
this same location, as these videos are tightly integrated into the 
program. I wouldn't mind storing the videos elsewhere if there is a 
better location, provided Windows will not interfere with any deleting 
or modifying of the video data. The issue I have is that my users could 
easily be storing several GB's of video data... perhaps too much for 
their default C drive (where the Documents folder is). Right now, my 
program uses the specialfolderpath(documents) command to initially 
determine where to store the Rev stacks and videos. I wouldn't want to 
offer the user the option to choose a different location for the Rev 
stacks, as they could easily choose a location that is effected by the 
virtualization issue.


My current thinking:

1. Keep storing the Rev stacks in Documents folder on the C drive, so 
these files don't take up much room.


2. Give the user the option to select where to put the video files... 
ASSUMING that no matter where they choose, Windows won't interfere with 
adding, deleting and modifying these files. I'm not sure that this 
assumption is correct. If it is not, where should I restrict them to 
placing these videos? Is it a good assumption that if they choose any 
location NOT on their C drive, Windows won't interfere?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Where to store data under Windows

2009-11-07 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Jim,

The reason for not necessarily selecting the My Videos folder is that 
the user may not wish (or be able to) store several GB's of video data 
under that folder... which presumably is always on their C drive. They 
may want it on an external drive.


I know for many somewhat older computers, disk space on the C drive is 
limited.


Richard




Jim Sims wrote:


On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

I know this topic has been talked about before where to store Rev 
stacks that will be frequently (and automatically) updated when 
running under Windosw.  As a result, I've followed the general 
guidance of storing these stacks in the Documents folder. This seems 
to avoid any problems with the Windows virtual folders issue. I 
haven't actually tested this under Windows 7, but I assume it is 
still a valid and safe place.


However, I'm running into a new issue. My program stores video files 
in this same location, as these videos are tightly integrated into 
the program. I wouldn't mind storing the videos



In the Dictionary, searching with specialfolderpath I find the following:

For Windows systems, you can also specify a CSIDL number that 
identifies a special folder. Some Commonly used CSIDL values are:
0x001a: The user application data folder (e.g. C:/Documents 
and settings/Fred/Application Data)
0x0023: The all users application data folder (e.g. 
C:/Documents and settings/all users/Application Data)

0x000d: The My Music folder
0x000e: The My Videos folder
0x0027: The My Pictures folder

Is there any reason why  0x000e: The My Videos folder  is a not 
considered? Seems like an appropriate choice.


sims

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Re: Where to store data under Windows

2009-11-07 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Shao,

Yes... this is what I was planning. But exactly which are the no-no 
folders under Vista and Windows 7? Are there any such folders on any 
drive other than C?


Thanks.
Richard


Shao Sean wrote:
Have it default somewhere (like the My Documents folder) and give 
the user an option (preference) to move it to where they see fit.. 
Check if the user picks one of the no-no folders and inform them about 
the issues if they are not admin..

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Re: Where is applications folder on OSX

2009-11-03 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks, Sarah.

However, I don't believe one can put a filename into a player object 
and still have it be a player, rather than a videoclip object.


I've resolved the issue for now by combining line 1 of the volumes 
with specialfolderpath(apps) under OSX. Hopefully, this produces a 
reliable long path to a video.


Richard



Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
  

Not sure how to solve this.

  put specialfolderpath(apps)  /videos into mainfolder

The above line does create the correct pathway to this folder in
Applications. However, I then need to set the filename of a player to a
video inside that folder.

  put mainfolder  /test1.mov into fname
  set the filename of player 1 to (file:///  fname)

I need to use the file:/// syntax because this is being done through
revweb in a browser (which seems to require this syntax... unlike a regular
player in a standalone). Using the above, the filename in the player will
NOT be correct, however, because the player requires the users HD name to be
right after file:///.

In other words:

This doesn't work for the filename of the player:

  file:///Applications/videos/test1.mov

This works:

  file:///Macintosh HD/Applications/videos/test1.mov

I'm not sure how to correct this. None of the OSX specialfolderpath returned
values contain the HD portion of the pathway.




I found with images, that setting the filename did not work. I had to use:
put URL (binfile:  tFileName) into image Pic

Maybe something similar would work for your videos.

Cheers,
Sarah
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set the defaultfolder to desktop... crashes revweb on XP

2009-11-03 Thread Richard Miller
Can others verify this (on other platforms as well)? Has it perhaps been 
documented already?


This sequence crashes RevMedia (in both the development and runtime 
environments) on my XP machine:


set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath(desktop)
put the detailed files

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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RevWeb ask not working on my end

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Miller
Can anyone get an Ask dialog box to work through revweb in a browser? 
Tried on XP without success.


Thanks.
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Where is applications folder on OSX

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Miller
Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary 
Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Where is applications folder on OSX

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Miller

So just use specialfolderpath(apps)? Is that the right syntax?

Thanks.



Devin Asay wrote:


On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Richard Miller wrote:


Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary
Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it?


Richard,

Ken Ray has worked this all out and posted a great resource page on 
specialfolderpath():


http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Where is applications folder on OSX

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks.


Colin Holgate wrote:


On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary 
Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it?


The help on specialfolderpath goes into great detail, and also points 
to this handy page:


http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Folder_Manager/Reference/reference.html 



From that you can work out that this will give you the Applications path:

put specialfolderpath(apps)



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Re: Where is applications folder on OSX

2009-11-02 Thread Richard Miller

Not sure how to solve this.

   put specialfolderpath(apps)  /videos into mainfolder

The above line does create the correct pathway to this folder in 
Applications. However, I then need to set the filename of a player to a 
video inside that folder.


   put mainfolder  /test1.mov into fname
   set the filename of player 1 to (file:///  fname)

I need to use the file:/// syntax because this is being done through 
revweb in a browser (which seems to require this syntax... unlike a 
regular player in a standalone). Using the above, the filename in the 
player will NOT be correct, however, because the player requires the 
users HD name to be right after file:///.


In other words:

This doesn't work for the filename of the player:

   file:///Applications/videos/test1.mov

This works:

   file:///Macintosh HD/Applications/videos/test1.mov

I'm not sure how to correct this. None of the OSX specialfolderpath 
returned values contain the HD portion of the pathway.


Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



Colin Holgate wrote:


On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary 
Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it?


The help on specialfolderpath goes into great detail, and also points 
to this handy page:


http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Folder_Manager/Reference/reference.html 



From that you can work out that this will give you the Applications path:

put specialfolderpath(apps)



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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Miller

Len,

Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they 
confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I hope.


Richard




Len Morgan wrote:
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have a 
Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which 
each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take the 
mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without 
it going away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level 
work fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the 
very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select 
anything below it either.


len morgan

Richard Miller wrote:

David,

There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. 
The problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and 
have it work properly?


Richard




dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return  tab  tab  choice x after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.

...

Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Miller
Sorry, Richard it was regarding the latter (popup/pulldowns). What's 
the disadvantage of using a pulldown menu with tabs to create 
submenu's... as opposed to a cascade menu button?


Richard


Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they 
confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I 
hope.


Len Morgan wrote:
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have 
a Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports 
which each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take 
the mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) 
without it going away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level 
work fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the 
very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't 
select anything below it either.


There are a two issues with cascade-style menus:

1. They don't draw using OS menus, but instead use emulated menus

2. They require that the mouse be held down, rather than just
   clicked as with other menus

But note that those are with the cascade menu button style, not with 
using tab-spaced sub-menus in pullDown style buttons.


Was the note from Support that they would address cascade style menus 
specifically, or with sub-menus in pullDown menus?


I sure hope it's the former, as I love using cascade styles for flyout 
menus but have had to do some funky workarounds to get the to work 
correctly.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Jan,

Yes, this was what I originally expected. But it's not working as of yet 
during runtime... only in the development environment. Will this be 
implemented shortly (prior to launch) so that it works the same during 
runtime? What if the two stacks are sized differently? What will happen 
then?


It would be nice to have answers to these now so that developers like 
myself can make adjustments based on fairly large items like this.


I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during runtime... 
no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the 
stack so it functions as a button with cascading selections), depresses 
OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up OK. But any attempt to 
actually make a selection fails.


Obviously, they are making substantial changes to the runtime 
environment on a daily basis. This makes development very difficult.  I 
can work around much of this and focus on other items, but it's the not 
knowing what we'll end up with by 11/11 that makes all of this 
stressful, if not impossible. I actually don't think they know either. 
It seems to be very much a day-by-day situation. On the other hand, I 
fully appreciate the enormity of the challenge they face.


Richard




Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
  

Richard (or anyone else),

In the known issues section 
(http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/)
covering Revmedia, it is stated that go in window of stack
will be fixed shortly. What do you interpret this
functionality to mean? It obviously doesn't relate to go to
card x, since that works fine now.

Thanks.
Richard Miller




Hi Richard,

Using 'go stack OtherStack in the window of this stack you can go to another 
stack without leaving the current window - it's as if the target stack window opens in the 
same rectangle as the original stack and then the original stack window closes, but without 
the actual opening and closing of windows.

Just give it a try:
- create a new stack MyMain
- drop in a button Go sub with script
on mouseUp
  go stack MySub in the window of this stack
end mouseUp
- create a new substack MySub
- drop in a button Go main with script
on mouseUp
  go stack MyMain in the window of this stack
end mouseUp

Now play around with it, and you'll see that the same window remains open and 
you're just hopping back and forth seamlessly between the mainstack and 
substack.

To me, this sounds like the best interim solution for revlets' inability to 
open new windows for substacks - and it certainly fits in with the AJAX 
paradigm of modifying the current page rather than loading a whole new page.

Jan Schenkel
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller

Richard,

Timely question. I'm using a cascading menu/button to give the user the 
option to select a video file which could reside in any of three 
folders. Each folder has one or more subfolders. For example:


Video Group 1
   Animals
  Elephant.mov
  Tiger.mov
   People
  Richard.mov
Video Group 2
   Cars
  Ford.mov
  Chevy.mov
etc...

The advantage of this approach is it takes up very little room on the 
screen (i.e. just one small button), but provides easy access to lots of 
files.


I was about to submit this bug report (this functionality worked two 
days ago, but not now), but I'd like others to test it first. I could 
only test it under XP.


Start with a new stack in Media.

1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

2. Run it in a browser. Should function normally... meaning, you can 
select one of the three items.


3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

   put return  tab  tab  choice x after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.


5. Run it in a browser. When I test this now, it is no longer possible 
to select any menu item, let alone choice x.


Is that what others are finding?

Thanks.
Richard Miller





Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during 
runtime... no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the 
center of the stack so it functions as a button with cascading 
selections), depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show 
up OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails.


At last I've found someone else who uses cascade menus!

Cascade menus were originally added as part of the old stack-based 
menu system, which few people use anymore now that we can use the 
textual contents of menu button as menu items without having to build 
a stack for those.


But cascade menus remain very useful for another purpose, as flyout 
menus.  Adobe and many others place such menus at the upper-right of 
their palettes, and they're useful in other contexts as well.


But unfortunately, the behavior of cascade menus differs from others 
in that most menus let you click and release and the menu stays up 
until you either select one of its items or click away from it, but 
cascade menus only appear as long as the mouse is down.


Also, while most menu styles render their menus using OS routines, 
cascade menus draw using the built-in emulated appearances, giving 
them a non-standard look that compounds the non-standard behavior.


There are workarounds for this, but they're not straightforward to 
implement and would certainly throw off the newcomer.


Jacque has noted this in the RQCC, and I've amended her request with 
additional notes:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1338

Richard, what do you use cascade menus for?

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller

David,

There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. The 
problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and have it 
work properly?


Richard




dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return  tab  tab  choice x after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.

...

Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3.

David Epstein
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-29 Thread Richard Miller

Richard (or anyone else),

In the known issues section 
(http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/) 
covering Revmedia, it is stated that go in window of stack will be 
fixed shortly. What do you interpret this functionality to mean? It 
obviously doesn't relate to go to card x, since that works fine now.


Thanks.
Richard Miller




Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I 
still am very optimistic. We already have something much more than 
the SC plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. 
I understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that.


2 cents
Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off 
as I am by my negative flack and releasing a version
where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut-up . . 
.:)


Maybe my thinking is too conventional on this, but the range of 
potential issues with palettes running from a browser plugin would 
seem to reach beyond the merely technical into the cognitive:


User expectations of the browser experience are well honed from a 
decade of relatively consistent exposure to a common set of 
conventions.  While the content and specific interactions within a 
page will vary from site to site, users are very accustomed to seeing 
things for a specific page within that page, often as movable layers 
but rarely as separate windows.


The benefit to this approach is that it keeps all of a web app's parts 
in one place.  Most users today have multiple tabs open, and it's not 
uncommon for them to switch between them while they're browsing.


If a palette window is opened from a Revlet in one tab, what does that 
palette do when the user switches to another tab?


Presumably it wouldn't attempt to affect anything in the current tab's 
page, but since the page with the Revlet is no longer in view the user 
has no way to know how interacting with the palette will affect what's 
on that page.


In desktop apps, when you switch to another application palettes are 
automatically hidden; they're in front only when the relevant app is 
in front, but once that app goes to the background there's no way to 
use palettes to accidentally alter the content of a window that may 
not be visible.


While browsers provide notification when a page is being closed, I 
don't believe they provide notification when another tab is selected 
(do they?).  This would make it difficult to know when to hide and 
show your  palettes, leaving parts of your app overlaying the rest of 
the browser experience.


Having Revlets open new Rev stack windows was a nifty option, but I'm 
not sure I'll miss it much.  There are more conventional ways to get 
the same benefits, ways that arguably better meet user expectations by 
keeping all of your app's parts together on one page.


A nice a flourish as those stack windows were, offhand I can't think 
of anything I would truly need to use them for that I can't do with a 
group on the card in a way that looks and feels a bit more like a web 
app.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-28 Thread Richard Miller
So at the moment, anyway, it's no longer possible to open a second stack 
in a new window (in RevMedia) above the browser window. Meaning, if one 
is in the primary stack and issues the command, go cd 1 of stack x, 
nothing happens. In the alpha version, it would open a new window.


From what I've read, I gather it WILL be possible to navigate from the 
initial stack to a different stack, but only within the same browser 
window. It will NOT be possible to open a stack/window above the browser 
(other than answer/ask).


Is my understanding correct or have I missed something.

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Bizarre Quicktime bug

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Miller

I need the help of any genius around here who can help solve a bizarre bug.

I have one customer (and only one) who is using my Rev video software on 
a PC and is encountering this bug. He actually has a laptop and desktop, 
both with Vista, and has this same problem on both.


1. Transfer a video from his camera to a flash drive. AVI or MOV... 
doesn't matter. We've tried both. These are all H.264 encoded.


2. Play the video file directly from his flash drive in QT. Plays fine. 
No problem at all.


3. Transfer the file to his desktop, then play it in QT. Corrupted. 
Parts of the video become distorted. It plays, but is obviously corrupted.


This occurs on both of his computers. We've tried this numerous times.

Now it gets a bit more bizarre. If we try to play one of the 
desktop-based video files in the Kodak playback software that came with 
his Kodak camera, it plays fine. The Kodak camera can transfer the video 
from the flash drive to his Documents folder, then play it back from 
there with no problem. But if the file is copied from the flash drive to 
the desktop by drag-and-drop, then played in QT, it is corrupted.


I have gone in through remote access to disable just about every program 
I could think of (on his computer) that might be causing this problem. 
The problem persists.


Any ideas?

Thanks.
Richard
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Re: Bizarre Quicktime bug

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Miller
I noticed that tip and tried it (i.e. about running QT in safe mode). 
Didn't help with this problem, though.


Thanks for the suggestion.
Richard



runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Hi,

i do not know if this help, but Josh Mellicker posted something about Vista,QT 
and Standalones on the 29th september to this list.

Look for the topic
possible valuable tip for improving Quicktime playback in Vista - please test if 
you have time

Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Bizarre Quicktime bug (07-Okt-2009 13:05)
From:Richard Miller w...@together.net
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

  

I need the help of any genius around here who can help solve a bizarre bug.

I have one customer (and only one) who is using my Rev video software on 
a PC and is encountering this bug. He actually has a laptop and desktop, 
both with Vista, and has this same problem on both.


1. Transfer a video from his camera to a flash drive. AVI or MOV... 
doesn't matter. We've tried both. These are all H.264 encoded.


2. Play the video file directly from his flash drive in QT. Plays fine. 
No problem at all.


3. Transfer the file to his desktop, then play it in QT. Corrupted. 
Parts of the video become distorted. It plays, but is obviously corrupted.


This occurs on both of his computers. We've tried this numerous times.

Now it gets a bit more bizarre. If we try to play one of the 
desktop-based video files in the Kodak playback software that came with 
his Kodak camera, it plays fine. The Kodak camera can transfer the video 
from the flash drive to his Documents folder, then play it back from 
there with no problem. But if the file is copied from the flash drive to 
the desktop by drag-and-drop, then played in QT, it is corrupted.


I have gone in through remote access to disable just about every program 
I could think of (on his computer) that might be causing this problem. 
The problem persists.


Any ideas?

Thanks.
Richard
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RevMedia - ready now?

2009-09-15 Thread Richard Miller

A few questions.

1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is 
that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing 
substacks to open in front of the browser.


2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, 
or is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty 
installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista 
corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making 
a change to their OS settings.


I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple 
revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page 
doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's 
just a product information page meaning, it doesn't require any 
permissions from the user to view it, other than installation of the 
plugin.


If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this 
page, is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have 
little problem installing the plugin and viewing the page?


Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin 
arrives


Thanks.
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Re: RevMedia - ready now?

2009-09-15 Thread Richard Miller

Andre,

Thanks.
Would you take a stab at defining little? You thinking a week or a month?

Richard



Andre Garzia wrote:

Richard,
I would wait a little more...

Andre

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  

A few questions.

1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is
that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing substacks to
open in front of the browser.

2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, or
is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty
installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista
corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making a
change to their OS settings.

I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple
revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page
doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's just a
product information page meaning, it doesn't require any permissions
from the user to view it, other than installation of the plugin.

If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this page,
is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have little
problem installing the plugin and viewing the page?

Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin
arrives

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: RevMedia - ready now?

2009-09-15 Thread Richard Miller
Thanks for the advice. I agree with you. I'll wait... hoping it's just a 
week or so, and not a month or two.

Richard





Andre Garzia wrote:

I have no clue, but I am waiting for the next plugin before releasing
anything.
the current one has some random jinx in it that is not compatible with
releasing a product, thats why it is an alpha. Use this interval now to
improve your product, this way, by the time they deliver a beta or a final,
you'll have a better product than the one you have now.

even if the current plugin works for 450 out of your 500 guys, the other 50
might be very vocal and wreck your opening party.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  

Andre,

Thanks.
Would you take a stab at defining little? You thinking a week or a month?

Richard




Andre Garzia wrote:



Richard,
I would wait a little more...

Andre

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:



  

A few questions.

1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is
that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing substacks
to
open in front of the browser.

2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, or
is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty
installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista
corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making
a
change to their OS settings.

I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple
revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page
doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's just
a
product information page meaning, it doesn't require any permissions
from the user to view it, other than installation of the plugin.

If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this
page,
is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have little
problem installing the plugin and viewing the page?

Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin
arrives

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Safe place to write a file under Vista

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Miller
I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it is 
not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems that 
Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, where is a 
reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon thereafter be 
deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe?


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Re: Safe place to write a file under Vista

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks, Terry. That sounds like the best bet.
Richard




Terry Judd wrote:

What about trying specialfolderpath(temporary) or 'the tempname'?

Terry...


On 2/09/09 4:28 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  

I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it is
not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems that
Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, where is a
reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon thereafter be
deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe?

Thanks.
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Re: Safe place to write a file under Vista

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks Mark.
Richard



Mark Smith wrote:

Richard - 'the tempname' might be what you're after. ie.

put the tempname into tFile
-- do stuff with the file
delete file tFile

On my OS X machine, put the tempname gives this:
/private/var/tmp/folders.501/TemporaryItems/tmp0
(repeated calls will increment that trailing zero)

What it would be on windows, I don't know, but it will be an 
appropriate equivalent.


Best,

Mark



On 2 Sep 2009, at 07:28, Richard Miller wrote:

I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it 
is not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems 
that Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, 
where is a reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon 
thereafter be deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe?


Thanks.
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Temporary storage of imagedata

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Miller

This is for a revlet application.

I'm looking at various ways to temporarily store image snapshots before 
displaying them in a stack. The objective is to record several hundred 
screen shots (one per second), store them temporarily, then put the 
images into a new stack, one image per card, for replay. The temporary 
storage process needs to occur very quickly, as the user is interacting 
with the main stack while the recording is taking place. Each snapshot 
is shot with a low jpegquality (30-40), as the file size of the final 
group of images must be kept to a minimum so it can be transferred 
fairly quickly over the net.


Each image is averaging 30k. 100 images is 3 mb... which will work for 
this application. Right now, I am just saving each snapshot to a file, 
then at the end of the recording process, quickly putting each image 
onto a card. That whole saving-to-stack process takes about 10 seconds 
or so, which is fine.


I'm thinking it might be better/more elegant to store the imagedata of 
all the images into one variable (rather than to separate files), but 
I'm not sure how best to store this data (since it is binary and 
contains many lines per image). Then, at the end of the recording, I 
could transfer just this data over the net (stored as one binary file), 
then either create a display stack containing one image per card, or 
maybe even better, just create one card with one image on the fly, 
pulling the data for each image from this data variable.


Thoughts?

Thanks.
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Re: Temporary storage of imagedata

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Miller

Mark,

Thanks! Works perfect.

Richard



Mark Smith wrote:
Richard, the imagedata will tend to be a lot bigger (maybe 10x) than 
the compressed image file, so you probably want to store the text of 
image someimage, and then set the text of image someimage to 
tStoredData[1].


The text of an image is what would be in the file - ie. the text of 
image someimage.jpg is the same as what you'd get from get url 
(binfile:someimage.jpeg), whereas the imagedata is (I think) the 
actual pixels that revolution displays.


Other than that, I'd think your idea would work well.

If you store the text of your images in an array, then you could 
serialize the array with arrayencode, (and maybe base64encode the 
result for transmission over the net).


Best,

Mark Smith

On 24 Aug 2009, at 13:28, Richard Miller wrote:


This is for a revlet application.

I'm looking at various ways to temporarily store image snapshots 
before displaying them in a stack. The objective is to record several 
hundred screen shots (one per second), store them temporarily, then 
put the images into a new stack, one image per card, for replay. The 
temporary storage process needs to occur very quickly, as the user is 
interacting with the main stack while the recording is taking place. 
Each snapshot is shot with a low jpegquality (30-40), as the file 
size of the final group of images must be kept to a minimum so it can 
be transferred fairly quickly over the net.


Each image is averaging 30k. 100 images is 3 mb... which will work 
for this application. Right now, I am just saving each snapshot to a 
file, then at the end of the recording process, quickly putting each 
image onto a card. That whole saving-to-stack process takes about 10 
seconds or so, which is fine.


I'm thinking it might be better/more elegant to store the imagedata 
of all the images into one variable (rather than to separate files), 
but I'm not sure how best to store this data (since it is binary and 
contains many lines per image). Then, at the end of the recording, I 
could transfer just this data over the net (stored as one binary 
file), then either create a display stack containing one image per 
card, or maybe even better, just create one card with one image on 
the fly, pulling the data for each image from this data variable.


Thoughts?

Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: revLet image

2009-08-12 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Kenji,

This works for a locally-stored image:
 set the filename of image 1 to 
file:///c:/folder1/folder2/myImage.jpg


You should include the full local path to the image... not just the 
relative path, along with the prefix file:///


This should work for an image stored on a server:
 set the filename of image 1 to 
http://kenjikojima.com/Photo/myImage.jpg;


I would guess something was incorrect with the http address above... 
either mis-spelled or incorrect capitalization (which must be precise 
for some servers). Otherwise, this has been working fine for me.


Richard Miller



Kenji Kojima wrote:

Hi,

I cannot set image filename of revLet.

I tried them.
set the filename of image 1 to myImage.jpg
set the filename of image 1 to http://kenjikojima.com/Photo/myImage.jpg;
And used Network of Standalone Application setting.
But I could not show the image. It was just a gray image object.

Does anybody know how I can show an image.

Thanks,
--
Kenji Kojima
http://www.kenjikojima.com/





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