Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window
Ben, We limit grabs to 3 minutes now, but I suspect we could go longer. It really depends on the processor and camera involved (and probably the audio input source as well)... tremendous variability. Only testing will tell. We sell a customized kiosk driven entirely by Rev. This kiosk now uses a dual-core Pentium and a machine-vision camera capturing at 60 frames per second, all under Windows 7. We had problems when using a slower Atom processor, but the new processor allows the videograb functions to work much more smoothly. For example, even during video capture, the live Preview screen still shows fluid motion. Before, it would be jerky and only show perhaps 1/4 of the actual frames. We're not seeing any syncing issues with the audio using this configuration. No crashing. No problems. Richard On 8/8/10 5:05 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Thanks, Stephen and Richard. Because I'm selfishly focused on my immediate needs, can you clarify long grabs and problems? Are long grabs like Stephen's two hours, or would five minutes qualify? Are problems sync drift, or crashing, or memory leaks, or... something else? My application will probably not be doing more than a few minutes per clip - but it will be doing lots and lots of them over a day. Obviously I'll be testing this for myself - but it would be good to have tips on what to look out for. Many thanks, Ben On 08/08/2010 01:54, Richard Miller wrote: Yes. Long grabs are where we've encountered problems. Richard Miller On 8/7/10 11:35 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Is it long grabs (my next set of tests) that is the problem? Many thanks, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window
Yes. Long grabs are where we've encountered problems. Richard Miller On 8/7/10 11:35 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Is it long grabs (my next set of tests) that is the problem? Many thanks, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revVideoGrabber: stop preview doesn't hide video window
Ben, We use the video grabber functions extensively in our software, but only on PC's (where it runs with adequate stability even for video grabs as long as 3-5 minutes). The PC side works much better than the Mac side. The issue you are running into on a Mac is a known bug. You're not doing anything wrong. But I've not found it a problem to use revCloseVIdeoGrabber as often as needed (on Mac or PC side)... because you are right in saying it is the only way to get rid of the preview image on a Mac. Richard Miller On 8/5/10 5:39 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Docs for revStopPreviewingVideo says: Stops showing input from a video camera in the video grabber window. Use the revStopPreviewingVideo command to stop showing video input. When you stop previewing video, the video grabber window shows a blank screen. When I try this (rev 4.0 or later, on MacOS X 10.6) it doesn't show a blank screen, instead I'm left with a still of the last frame. The only way to make it go away is to execute revCloseVideoGrabber. Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong? Does anyone else experience this, or conversely has anyone experience of it working as documented? TIA, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
That does seem to be the problem. Thanks. However, I can't figure out yet which setting it is. If I go into the Security tab in IE and disable Protected Mode for the 1st zone (Internet), the revlet works fine. But I prefer to find out which specific setting in that zone is causing the problem, so I can tell users what to do without compromising their IE security unnecessarily. To do so, I've used the Custom Level button, which brings up a large number of options. I've been trying to disable many of those options (one at a time) to find the specific problem item, but I've not found it yet. It's in there somewhere, but I'm not sure which item might be the problem. Any help would be appreciated. I'll keep trying. Thanks. Richard On 7/18/10 11:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/17/10 10:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to disk. Is there a way around this? I'm not sure what's causing the problem but it sounds like a permissions issue. Doesn't IE block a lot of that kind of thing unless you set its internet security level lower? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
I have tried disabling every possible Internet security setting in IE, but it will still not allow a revlet to save data to disk. The only method that works is to completely disable the entire Internet security zone. But few (if any) users would be comfortable doing that, as IE throws up all kinds of warnings. It's a bit bizarre that IE lets you go in and customize dozens of settings, yet none of them seem to effect this problem. I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing some solution to this, but I can't find it. Richard On 7/19/10 8:05 AM, Richard Miller wrote: That does seem to be the problem. Thanks. However, I can't figure out yet which setting it is. If I go into the Security tab in IE and disable Protected Mode for the 1st zone (Internet), the revlet works fine. But I prefer to find out which specific setting in that zone is causing the problem, so I can tell users what to do without compromising their IE security unnecessarily. To do so, I've used the Custom Level button, which brings up a large number of options. I've been trying to disable many of those options (one at a time) to find the specific problem item, but I've not found it yet. It's in there somewhere, but I'm not sure which item might be the problem. Any help would be appreciated. I'll keep trying. Thanks. Richard On 7/18/10 11:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/17/10 10:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to disk. Is there a way around this? I'm not sure what's causing the problem but it sounds like a permissions issue. Doesn't IE block a lot of that kind of thing unless you set its internet security level lower? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
Hi Richard, It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is displaying personal video data of the user (sports videos... golf, baseball, tennis swings, etc.). The user needs to be able to bring these videos up immediately... not have to wait for each to be downloaded each time the user wants to view one. I don't see any way around the need for local storage. Richard On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Miller wrote: I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing some solution to this, but I can't find it. Would it be at all possible to store that data on the server like any other web app would do? The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin is the truly frightening warning dialog which is absolutely necessary when a server-based component attempts to write anything it wants to a user's local drive: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884 It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the Rev community as a whole, to use server storage wherever possible. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
Found the solution... and it's an easy fix for the user. The user needs to bring up the Security tab in the IE options menu, click on Local Intranet, then just add our web site using the Sites button. Don't know why this works, but it does. No problem writing to disk after doing this. Fortunately, it's easy for the revlet to detect this problem as soon as it starts up, simply by attempting to write and retrieve a file to the users computer. The solution can then be explained. Richard... I agree with you about the horrendous warning that a revlet brings up. The only solution we know is to explain the warning to the user in advance. That should draw most of them in to proceeding. Of course, in our case, the user has some familiarity with our company. If they didn't, that warning message might still scare many away, even after explaining to them it's safe to proceed. Richard Miller On 7/19/10 11:04 AM, Richard Miller wrote: Hi Richard, It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is displaying personal video data of the user (sports videos... golf, baseball, tennis swings, etc.). The user needs to be able to bring these videos up immediately... not have to wait for each to be downloaded each time the user wants to view one. I don't see any way around the need for local storage. Richard On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Miller wrote: I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing some solution to this, but I can't find it. Would it be at all possible to store that data on the server like any other web app would do? The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin is the truly frightening warning dialog which is absolutely necessary when a server-based component attempts to write anything it wants to a user's local drive: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884 It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the Rev community as a whole, to use server storage wherever possible. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
Hi Mike, We already offer the standalone. But the idea of the user being able to access their videos directly through a browser is quite appealing, given that many people spend a lot (if not most) of their time in a browser these days. Some of our users could be receiving videos sent to them throughout any given day, so it is convenient if they can leave the revlet open in a browser tab and simply retrieve, then view those videos, without having to leave their browser. If it wasn't for the challenges presented both by the revlet plugin installation process and that nasty warning box, this concept is killer for convenience and simplicity. Richard On 7/19/10 11:52 AM, Michael Kann wrote: Both Richards, It seems like the user will have a collection of videos on his/her hard drive. Why not include a standalone RunRev program with the videos to organize and display the videos? Or am I missing something? Mike --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Richard Millerw...@together.net wrote: From: Richard Millerw...@together.net Subject: Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:04 AM Hi Richard, It's not a practical solution for this app. The app is displaying personal video data of the user (sports videos... golf, baseball, tennis swings, etc.). The user needs to be able to bring these videos up immediately... not have to wait for each to be downloaded each time the user wants to view one. I don't see any way around the need for local storage. Richard On 7/19/10 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Miller wrote: I'd really like to hear from Revolution management as to when this will be fixed. The usefulness of revlets is severely limited if you can't use them to save any data to disk under Internet Explorer. I may be missing some solution to this, but I can't find it. Would it be at all possible to store that data on the server like any other web app would do? The biggest obstacle to adoption of the RevWeb plugin is the truly frightening warning dialog which is absolutely necessary when a server-based component attempts to write anything it wants to a user's local drive: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1262632837.378884 It simplifies your user's experience, and benefits the Rev community as a whole, to use server storage wherever possible. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevWeb, IE and saving data
This may be an ongoing problem, or I may be missing something. I can't write data to a file under revweb, Internet Explorer on a PC, and either Vista or Windows 7. No problem writing data using Firefox on a PC. No problem reading data from a file with IE. Is this a known problem? Any way to adjust for it? I'm using the latest version of Rev Enterprise. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevWeb, IE and saving data
After more testing, this problem only occurs when the revlet is run from a server. If I put the same revlet on the local drive, IE will allow writing to disk. If it is run from a server, IE prevents writing to disk. Is there a way around this? Thanks. Richard On 7/17/10 10:06 AM, Richard Miller wrote: This may be an ongoing problem, or I may be missing something. I can't write data to a file under revweb, Internet Explorer on a PC, and either Vista or Windows 7. No problem writing data using Firefox on a PC. No problem reading data from a file with IE. Is this a known problem? Any way to adjust for it? I'm using the latest version of Rev Enterprise. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Need a Rev DLL wrapper
I have a DLL (and all the original C++ components) I want to access through Rev. I haven't found a straightforward way to create a Rev wrapper for this, since I don't know C++. Suggestions? I am willing to pay someone experienced in this process to create the wrapper, assuming it can be done quickly and at reasonable cost. Please reply to me offlist. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need a Rev DLL wrapper
Andre, Is this the info to follow to try this: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/ext002.htm Thanks. Richard On 3/26/2010 11:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Richard, Can't you call that DLL with VBScript? Might be easier than writing an external Cheers andre On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Richard Millerw...@together.net wrote: I have a DLL (and all the original C++ components) I want to access through Rev. I haven't found a straightforward way to create a Rev wrapper for this, since I don't know C++. Suggestions? I am willing to pay someone experienced in this process to create the wrapper, assuming it can be done quickly and at reasonable cost. Please reply to me offlist. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Finding USB volumes on Win
Richard, This has been working for me: repeat with i = number of lines of the volumes down to 1 put line i of the volumes into x put getvolumesn(X) into z end repeat function GetVolumeSN pDiskLetter local volumeSerialNumber -- Supports both C, C: and C:\ styles put char 1 of pDiskLetter : into pDisk set the hideConsoleWindows to true put shell(dir pDisk) into tDirData get matchText(tDirData,Volume Serial Number is (.*)\n,volumeSerialNumber) if it is true then return volumeSerialNumber else return empty end if end GetVolumeSN Richard Miller On 3/22/2010 10:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In January with the help of Phil, Peter, and others I got some great tips for identifying removable drives on OS X and Linux. But I'm having difficulty figuring out how to do the same in Windows. I can find the registry entries to determine which devices are mounted, but they don't contain the info which will let me know which drive letter they're associated with. I've tried setting the shellCommand to diskpart and then using: get shell(list volume) ...but that returns 2, which means a syntax error, even though that syntax works fine from the command line. Any tips on how to identify mounted removable volumes and obtain their drive letters? Extra bonus points if I could get their names too, for those that have been named. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber on Windows
Hi Klaus, Is this topic still of interest to you? I've been working a lot with the videograbber on Windows. Richard Miller On 1/6/2010 12:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi friends, no other win user that work with the RevVideoGrabber and wants to share her/his experiences? Oh, c'mon folks! :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revmobile looking good
Can anyone confirm if the (video) player object works under revMobile? Thanks. Richard Miller On 3/20/2010 11:57 PM, Terry Judd wrote: Meanwhile, would it be possible to include iPad in the Simulator choices? That script is password protected, so I can't go in and try adding that myself. A couple of days ago (just after the latest revMobile pre-alpha), Apple released beta 5 of the iPhone 3.2 SDK and this is the first version that allows submission of apps using 3.2 which also means the first iPad apps. I would expect that now they have a target, RunRev can link into this and give us an iPad version soon. It's all looking good so far - the ability to test on the iPad simulator, even with the pre-alpha would be great. What I'd like some info on is what sort of controls/interface objects are likely to included in the IDE. I've started creating some replica 'native' controls but don't want to go too far down this path if I don't have too. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber on Windows
Klaus, Initialize the videograbber with this line: revInitializeVideoGrabber short name of this stack,DirectX,rect of image 1 Use this basic sequence to record video and audio: revSetVideoGrabSettings myvar revSetVideoGrabAudio true,1,16,16000 revRecordVideo myfile Don't use the newest videograbber.dll. I've found it does not allow access to the Compression dialog box. Use an older version. I can make it available if necessary. I reported this bug some time ago, but have not received a response from the engineers. Use the new DivX (www.divx.com) codec for best results. Let me know how that goes. The above works well for me under Windows 7. Richard On 3/22/2010 11:09 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: Hi Richard, Hi Klaus, Is this topic still of interest to you? I've been working a lot with the videograbber on Windows. yes, sure! We had the chance to test VideoGrabber on Win7 and there is absolutely no way to use it with QuickTime. Works with VfW but that does not support any standard VideoCodecs like DV*, what we need in our project. *Out of the box! Richard Miller On 1/6/2010 12:25 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi friends, no other win user that work with the RevVideoGrabber and wants to share her/his experiences? Oh, c'mon folks! :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber on Windows
Do not use VFW. The DirectX setting is not documented. Try to follow the code I sent. Disable use video for windows. All of my video work with Rev is QT based. Let me know. Richard On 3/22/2010 11:46 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: Hi Richard, Klaus, Initialize the videograbber with this line: revInitializeVideoGrabber short name of this stack,DirectX,rect of image 1 is this DirectX the same as VfW? Use this basic sequence to record video and audio: revSetVideoGrabSettings myvar Getting/setting the videosettings did not work for us with VfW at all. The variable was always empty! revSetVideoGrabAudio true,1,16,16000 Does this still work? I have been searching this in the docs for at least the last three versions of Rev! :-/ revRecordVideo myfile Don't use the newest videograbber.dll. I've found it does not allow access to the Compression dialog box. Use an older version. I can make it available if necessary. I reported this bug some time ago, but have not received a response from the engineers. Use the new DivX (www.divx.com) codec for best results. See below, we need QuickTime for everything, since we are developing a crossplatform tool which has to work out of the box. Let me know how that goes. The above works well for me under Windows 7. Basically it all works for us, but we need the user let record video in DV format, so we can compress them with Trevors wonderful QT external. Thanks anyway! :-) Richard Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMobile first impressions?
And video. Can you create a video player and control it? Thanks. Richard Miller On 3/5/2010 5:47 AM, René Micout wrote: Hello Sarah, What about music and sound capacities ? René Le 5 mars 2010 à 03:11, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Marian Petridesmpetri...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd love to hear your more detailed impressions, Sarah, and I bet others would too. Meanwhile, thanks for the early preview! Here is some more info: Set your stack's font to Helvetica 14, the backColor to 200,200,200 and the look feel to Motif to get the best preview of how it will look on the iPhone without any skinning. A multi-card stack works fine and moving into out of sub-stacks works fine. Not all text decoration works: there are no fonts and you can't specify bold or italic, but all the other text styles work and you can set colors. I have used the photo picker and it works really well, but don't leave an image on screen if you leave that card or the app usually crashes. Images are a bit crashy - sometimes they work, other times they crash. File handling: I have been able to list files in the app bundle, create a new one and display it, download an image file and save it, download a web page and show the htmlText. File paths: you can get the defaultFolder which gives the full folder to the app in my Library. Getting the filename of my stack gives a much shorter path, with the app bundle being the root folder. I haven't worked out yet how to save a file to the app's Documents folder. iPhone specific commands: I have tested the command that accesses the photo library ( would do the camera if I was using a real iPhone) and they work really well. Shaking multi-touch all seem fine, although on the simulator I haven't actually been able to multi-touch. If you shake when typing in a text field, you get a dialog saying that there is nothing to undo, so the shake has been correctly linked to the undo mechanism, but the actual undo is not operational yet. Rotation: seemingly not implemented yet, although the handbook mentions that they cause the stack to get a resizeStack message. I haven't been able to detect this, so I have no idea how they plan to implement rotation. I tried activating the accelerometer but I can't test that without installing on a real iPhone. It didn't make any difference to the rotation - you still just see all the controls turned sideways. I even tried changing to a wide stack to see if that would help, but it didn't make any difference. So basically, although it all looks weird, there is an awful lot of Rev that just works. Images are the most flaky things I have discovered. As is usual with iPhone apps and Rev apps, errors don't make a fuss, although the app can just quit quietly if something weird happens. As regards future revMobile programming, the main things I will be looking for are the native look feel, rotation handling and better image handling. Of these, the rotation is the most important as I need to know how this will work in order to be able to plan my development. The look feel will not stop me developing, but you couldn't release an iPhone app that looks like it's running under X11 :-) Image handling is crucial because it has caused a lot of app crashes in my tests. Adding an icon to your app is super-easy. You just make a 57 x 57 png file and tell revMobile the plugin. When the app installs, the iPhone rounds the corners and adds the cool lighting effect. If anyone would like me to test any aspect in particular, just let me know. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Encoding h.264 videos on Windows 7 through Rev
What do I need to install to have h.264 show up as an option in the Rev video compression dialog box under Windows 7? Is there a codec I need to install? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can Rev send Fn+F2 signal?
I have a piece of hardware attached to a Lenovo netbook which needs a signal sent to it which would normally be generated by hitting FN+F2. I can no longer attach the original Lenovo keyboard (the unit is disassembled) to generate this signal. Unfortunately, hitting FN+2 on an external USB keyboard does not generate the necessary signal. Not sure why this is, but the manufacturer has verified an external USB keyboard cannot do this job (and there's no PS2 keyboard connector on this netbook). Unfortunately, they have not created a software driver to do this either. Can I somehow do this through Rev? I'm running Windows 7. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bill Marriott
Kevin, So sorry to hear of your loss. These moments are certainly trying. How inspiring it is to experience such an outpouring of sincere emotion from this community of supporters you have created... like a large, extended family. Revolution is far more than just another product. This community surely reflects the richness of your inner world, Kevin and that of others, like Bill. How marvelous. Perhaps you can find some comfort in that. Kind regards, Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets
Tim, Put file:./// before the actual location of the QT video. So if the video is here c:/tim.mov, set the filename to: file:///c:/tim.mov. If you're doing this on a Mac, be sure the actual location of the QT video starts with the name of your HD volume in the filename (but still following the file:/// syntax). Best regards, Richard Miller Tim Lambert wrote: Hi Could anyone point me to a 'How-to' to get QT vids to play from an uploaded revlet? The vids are in the same folder as the uploaded Revlet, but nowr happens. TIA. Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets
Tim, Jacqueline is right if the videos you are trying to access are on a remote server. It's not been my experience that the alwaysBuffer setting matters in a revlet. Seems they'll always default to alwaysbuffer is true. Richard J. Landman Gay wrote: Tim Lambert wrote: Hi Could anyone point me to a 'How-to' to get QT vids to play from an uploaded revlet? The vids are in the same folder as the uploaded Revlet, but nowr happens. That's how I do it. The videos are in the same folder with the revlet, then the script references them like this: set the filename of player 1 to http://www.domain.com/folder/movie.mov; I don't use the file:// syntax, because a revlet is like a local stack, and a fully qualified URL is fine as a reference. The file:// designation is only for files you want to retrieve from the user's local hard drive, not for those on your server. Unless it got fixed without my noticing, players in revlets only work reliably if the alwaysBuffer property is set to false. That may be the issue in your revlet. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pointers to Quicktime videos in Revlets
Tim, One other point. Check to make sure the path to the video is case-proper. In my case, I often store videos on GoDaddy. I've found the filenames to be case-sensitive. Richard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Apple tablet + Rev
The news seems to be pointing to the release of an Apple tablet, end of January. Given the indications that it's designed to run all IPhone apps, but with more resolution to work with, anyone care to guess what the likelihood is that it could run some variation of a Rev app... or is a Rev cgi script through a browser about all we can expect? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Any chance a Rev app or revlet could run on this?
I realize the answer to this is probably, not anytime soon, but I can be hopeful: http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-tegra-android-smartpad-uses-pixel-qi-display-1866308/ Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlets and firewalls
I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to the outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall issues. Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall exception for a regular Rev app, since the location of the app is identifiable. How would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet residing somewhere locally for a time, or is it in memory? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlets and firewalls
Thanks, Matthias! I think that will do it. What is it called on a Mac? I'm going to suggest users search for it on their computer to find the exact location under different OS's. Richard runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Richard, under Windows there is a file revWebPlayer.exe, which is reponsible for the revlets. it is found at C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Local\RunRev\ Try to make an exception for that file. This should do, i think. HTH, Matthias Original Message Subject: Revlets and firewalls (09-Dez-2009 16:09) From:Richard Miller w...@together.net To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to the outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall issues. Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall exception for a regular Rev app, since the location of the app is identifiable. How would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet residing somewhere locally for a time, or is it in memory? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlets and firewalls
Hi Luis, As I said, normally when this occurs in my standard Rev app, the user need only create a firewall exception for my app. Communication usually works fine after that. Are you saying this same approach won't work with a revlet? Thanks. Richard Luis wrote: Hiya, The app location is irrelevant if it's a firewall issue. In this instance the firewall would need ports 20 and 21 open for ftp to go through. Usually port 80 (or 8080) is open as this is used for standard http browsing protocol. If you try to telnet (from a command line/terminal prompt to port 21 (telnet 'ipaddress' 21 or telnet domain.com 21) and you do not receive a positive response then the port is blocked. Cheers, Luis. On 9 Dec 2009, at 15:07, Richard Miller wrote: I'm finding some situations in which my revlet cannot communicate to the outside via: put x into url ftp://xx; because of firewall issues. Normally, I would instruct the user to create a firewall exception for a regular Rev app, since the location of the app is identifiable. How would one do this with a revlet? Is the revlet residing somewhere locally for a time, or is it in memory? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlets and firewalls
I just looked on my old Mac, and I see a file called revWebPlayer.app (inside /library/application support/RunRev/). Isn't that the file to create the exception for? Richard J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Thanks, Matthias! I think that will do it. What is it called on a Mac? I'm going to suggest users search for it on their computer to find the exact location under different OS's. There are three, in here: ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/nprevweb.bundle ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/nprevweb.plugin ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/wkrevweb.webplugin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Caching problem with revlets
I really need help with this one. To get at the heart of a few problems, I just put some code into my revlet to check that when a user opens my revlet, this person actually has the latest version. Just got word from one user (Vista + IE) that the revlet he recently accessed was an older version. So caching is taking place. This code doesn't do the job: head META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0 /head Suggestions? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Caching problem with revlets
Martin, Thanks. I only wish I knew what you are talking about! I will read the article. The revlet is stored on a GoDaddy server. Is that apache? Can I do the things you suggest, given where it is stored? Richard Martin Baxter wrote: Richard if: a you are using apache b mod_expires is installed c you can use .htaccess files Then you should be able to use expires directives in an .htaccess file to inhibit cacheing based on media type (extension). http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_expires.html I don't know if that will work, I haven't tried it, but I think it has more chance than cache control meta tags, which are known to be ineffective IIRC. It's the way I would try and do it anyway. Also, possibly helpful article on cacheing generally: http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/ Martin Baxter Richard Miller wrote: I really need help with this one. To get at the heart of a few problems, I just put some code into my revlet to check that when a user opens my revlet, this person actually has the latest version. Just got word from one user (Vista + IE) that the revlet he recently accessed was an older version. So caching is taking place. This code doesn't do the job: head META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0 /head Suggestions? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can specialfolderpath(26) be blocked for write access?
I have one user in which my revlet is attempting to create a folder within specialfolderpath(26) [the AppData location], but it does not get created. I've tried it numerous times. It just won't go through. This is on a Vista machine. Under what conditions can this possibly happen? I thought this AppData folder was a safe and unrestricted folder to write to? Can this be blocked by Vista itself or by some other program? If this folder is not reliable, where would one guess IS a safe place to create a folder and store files under Vista? This same user's computer has the DOCUMENTS folder blocked for writing as well. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Swing Browser is in testing
I have entered the testing phase with my new software based on the revweb plugin, and would appreciate any and all feedback (negative, positive, suggestions whatever) from anyone who wants to check it over. The site is still rough around the edges... plus, I have little in the way of graphics skills, so it doesn't look as cool or tight as it could. But functionally, it has all the right pieces. I have about 30 users testing it now before it goes public... which won't be until a new version of the plugin is released. I've had to work around the ongoing revweb problems regarding cursors (no busy, draw or hand cursor), the lack of a dependable Answer dialog box, the lack of direct Externals support, and a few other things. Hopefully, these will all be fixed soon. Also note it does not seem to run under Windows 7 and IE (not sure about Firefox). The main purposes of this site are as follows: 1. Allow users to easily import their sports videos into the system, following which they can review their motion frame-by-frame. I've set the site up generically, so it is as useful to baseball, tennis, etc. as it is to golf (my original core focus area). The software should handle most common video formats. It uses ffmpeg to convert any non-Quicktime-compatible formats to MOV. 2. Let users compare their motion to professionals (i.e. model videos in the Directory) 3. Let them easily edit these videos (which are often 20 - 100 mb in size coming off the camera) so the file size is 1 mb or so, from which they can then quickly send those videos to anyone else for review (using just an email address). The receiver views the video in my program. You can test this function using the Sample Video (in the Directory) under the Imported Videos section. Click on it, then Edit Video. 4. Most importantly, allow pro's to do a voice-over analysis (including lines, circles and polygons) of a swing using the Create Analysis button in the Compare screen. This analysis can then be quickly sent to others (typically students) for review through my site. 5. Make the program easy to use, convenient (since it runs in a browser... which is where all the action seems to be these days), and inexpensive ($69). 6. Make it Windows, Mac and (soon) Linux compatible. It's all here: www.swingbrowser.com Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swing Browser is in testing
David, Thanks for taking a look at it. Isn't that just the way these things go... works for you, but not for Nicolas. Same basic configuration. Vista. Firefox. Same plugin. Different results. More digging ahead... The files are all in a Swing Browser folder... either in Documents or the AppData folder. Just dump the folder. I do need to create an uninstaller. An uninstaller for a web site... sounds like a new concept. Richard David Coker wrote: Richard, Although I'm not sure what all is supposed to be functional, I was able to view some golfing videos after browsing around a bit to find where they were located in the program. Also took a snapshot of one and saved it to my desktop. All of the above on a RC running Vista and Firefox. Pretty nifty concept, but nothing I can use. ;) My only question at this point... where are all of the files located that were downloaded so that I may remove them from my computer? Best regards, David C. - Original Message - From: Richard Miller w...@together.net To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 8:37:28 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Swing Browser is in testing I have entered the testing phase with my new software based on the revweb plugin, and would appreciate any and all feedback (negative, positive, suggestions whatever) from anyone who wants to check it over. The site is still rough around the edges... plus, I have little in the way of graphics skills, so it doesn't look as cool or tight as it could. But functionally, it has all the right pieces. I have about 30 users testing it now before it goes public... which won't be until a new version of the plugin is released. I've had to work around the ongoing revweb problems regarding cursors (no busy, draw or hand cursor), the lack of a dependable Answer dialog box, the lack of direct Externals support, and a few other things. Hopefully, these will all be fixed soon. Also note it does not seem to run under Windows 7 and IE (not sure about Firefox). The main purposes of this site are as follows: 1. Allow users to easily import their sports videos into the system, following which they can review their motion frame-by-frame. I've set the site up generically, so it is as useful to baseball, tennis, etc. as it is to golf (my original core focus area). The software should handle most common video formats. It uses ffmpeg to convert any non-Quicktime-compatible formats to MOV. 2. Let users compare their motion to professionals (i.e. model videos in the Directory) 3. Let them easily edit these videos (which are often 20 - 100 mb in size coming off the camera) so the file size is 1 mb or so, from which they can then quickly send those videos to anyone else for review (using just an email address). The receiver views the video in my program. You can test this function using the Sample Video (in the Directory) under the Imported Videos section. Click on it, then Edit Video. 4. Most importantly, allow pro's to do a voice-over analysis (including lines, circles and polygons) of a swing using the Create Analysis button in the Compare screen. This analysis can then be quickly sent to others (typically students) for review through my site. 5. Make the program easy to use, convenient (since it runs in a browser... which is where all the action seems to be these days), and inexpensive ($69). 6. Make it Windows, Mac and (soon) Linux compatible. It's all here: www.swingbrowser.com Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swing Browser is in testing
Nicolas, No explanations... yet. But thanks for looking. I haven't received any other reports of the problem you encountered, but I'll dig into it. Will likely contact you offline. The frustrating thing is that there's no way to know how many problems like this are due to the plugin. Most folks testing the site are finding nearly all of it working well. But then there are about 25% of users having problems in areas that work fine for others. Richard Nicolas Cueto wrote: Richard, Just out of curiosity, checked out your site. Unfortunately, it's not working on my setup (Vista, Firefox 3.5.5, revApp 4.0.0-rc-1 build 940). Here's what I see at my end. A window with a left-side menu and a downloading message appears. During downloading, a screen object that I guess is a progress bar also appears (can't tell for sure, cause it remains one solid white color thruout the download). When the downloading message and object disappear, there's a twirling multi-colored icon/cursor, which simply disappears when clicked-on. Then, at last, I'm left with just a black window with that left-side menu, which is unclickable. Tried it a couple of times, and the same results each time. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swing Browser is in testing
Nicolas, Yes... this can be a bit frustrating. Just walked another user through the startup process. He's using XP and IE. Wouldn't work at all. He switched to Firefox and everything worked perfectly. Not a single problem. The black screen you are seeing is just a protective graphic to prevent users from interacting too soon. But it should disappear at the end of the startup process. So something is not completing right. I'll be digging into this tomorrow AM. Thanks for helping. I appreciate it. All this testing is helping uncover the nuances of the plugin... and it's many inconsistencies. It's definitely not ready for show time. Richard Nicolas Cueto wrote: Richard, I tried it again, this time after updating my Rev plugin version. One very small difference this time. Right before the downloading message appears, for a very brief second I can see an image of a golfer and some other screen objects. But after downloading is done, it's the same blackscreen with a left-side menu. Tried it on IE8. Same as above -- brief glimpse of a golfer/objects, and then blackscreen/menu. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swing Browser is in testing
Hi David, The folder is called Swing Browser. It should be in AppData, which I believe is a hidden folder. I put the files in there because there seemed to be some consensus here that specialfolderpath(26) was a good place for Rev files. If you open Rev and type specialfolderpath(26) in the msg box, it should give you the pathway. Richard David Coker wrote: Hey Richard. ...well now, there lies the problem. I followed the path that was displayed withing the program and didn't find any such folder as you've described. Just did a complete search for the entire computer and all users as Admin and still didn't locate anything. How about sharing one single file name and I'll give that a try? Best regards, David C. The files are all in a Swing Browser folder... either in Documents or the AppData folder. Just dump the folder. I do need to create an uninstaller. An uninstaller for a web site... sounds like a new concept. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swing Browser is in testing
The only printing that is working is through Rev's print this card from xx to yy. That works fine. Printing from the browser's print command doesn't appear to work. Yeah... I figured I'd post info about the site here to help sort out more revweb issues. Hopefully, this process will serve a bunch of us. It really would be helpful to hear something from Revolution about the status of the next plugin update. Just to know if we're a week away... a month away... or considerably longer till the plugin reaches some level of reliability. Richard Nicolas Cueto wrote: No problem, Richard. the nuances of the plugin... and it's many inconsistencies. It's definitely not ready for show time. Which is a large reason for my helping you out. I figure you butting heads with it now makes my revlet life easier later on. Speaking of which. Does Swing Browser do print-outs of revlet window-contents to paper thru a browser's (not a revlet's) Print function? I've tried but, when my IE/Firefox prints out, everything on the webpage gets copied onto paper except for the revlet frame and its contents. Just wondering. Anyway, good luck on the Swing Browser to revlet transition. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE
Hi Matthias, I heard something about changing a setting to Vista SP2, but I can't test that and don't know precisely what it means. I look forward to hearing from you on Monday. Richard runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Richard, i think that has to do with security settings in IE. I also have a customer, which cannot use the plugin. He always just sees the image with the link to the Download section. On monday i will check that settings on his machine, then i will know more. Btw.: I had to place my on no-web-plugin image, because the default link in the html-file, which Revolution creates, is not valid. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE (27-Nov-2009 19:57) From:Richard Miller w...@together.net To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE. After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is missing. I have submitted a report. Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlet caching (was...Safari caches revlet)
I've tried using this code in my static html revlet launch page, but I'm not convinced it is causing the revlet to be reloaded each time changes are made: head META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0 /head Suggestions? Thanks. Richard Miller Brian Yennie wrote: One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded is to use a cache busting URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version. myrevlet.rev === myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 === myrevlet.rev?v=2.0 etc. From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query string on the end. New URL = fresh copy. Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung. Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl, client-side Javascript, etc). Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to control. Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than emptying the cache? When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version. Thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE
Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE. After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is missing. I have submitted a report. Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev
Thierry, Could be. I'm not familiar with this. I'm trying this: get shell (chmod + x MyExecutableFileName) When I run this in the msg box, it returns 1. But I see no change to the app. It still looks like a text document... not a Unix Executable File. Richard Thierry D. wrote: Le 25 nov. 09 à 08:12, Richard Miller a écrit : Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work. Could it be that you only need to set the executable bit ? chmod +x your file HTH, Thierry I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev application bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz file; ftp it; then decompress it. The file size is identical upon arrival, but it is no longer recognized as an executable... only a text document. I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url binfile:xxx into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing? I am transferring from a Mac server to a Mac computer. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev
I believe that did it. Enormous thanks to you. Richard Thierry D. wrote: Le 25 nov. 09 à 13:07, Richard Miller a écrit : Thierry, Could be. I'm not familiar with this. I'm trying this: get shell (chmod + x MyExecutableFileName) typo ? Need to be +x , not + x ! When I run this in the msg box, it returns 1. But I see no change to the app. It still looks like a text document... not a Unix Executable File try get shell( ls -l ) then. you should see in something like this : -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2979 Feb 5 2007 rev2perlInit.c -rw-r--r-- 1 thierry thierry 2559 Mar 28 2007 ToCopyInStack.dat -rwxrwxrwx 1 thierry thierry 3797 Mar 28 2007 TranslatePm2c.pl -rw-r--r-- 1 thierry thierry577 Feb 2 2007 rev2perl.c r: read w: write x: executable 1st 3 letters for user, next 3 for group, last 3 for others. On my samples, you can see that TranslatePm2c.pl can be executed by all, but not the other files. Regards, Thierry Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work. Could it be that you only need to set the executable bit ? chmod +x your file HTH, Thierry I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev application bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz file; ftp it; then decompress it. The file size is identical upon arrival, but it is no longer recognized as an executable... only a text document. I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url binfile:xxx into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing? I am transferring from a Mac server to a Mac computer. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlet caching (was...Safari caches revlet)
I've tried using this code in my static html revlet launch page, but I'm not convinced it is causing the revlet to be reloaded each time changes are made: head META Http-Equiv=Cache-Control Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Pragma Content=no-cache META Http-Equiv=Expires Content=0 /head Suggestions? Thanks. Richard Miller Brian Yennie wrote: One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded is to use a cache busting URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version. myrevlet.rev === myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 === myrevlet.rev?v=2.0 etc. From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query string on the end. New URL = fresh copy. Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung. Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl, client-side Javascript, etc). Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to control. Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than emptying the cache? When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version. Thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE
Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE. After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is missing. I have submitted a report. Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to transfer a UNIX executable through Rev
Here's what I am doing. Not sure why this doesn't work. I want to transfer the UNIX executable portion of a Mac rev application bundle via ftp. I take the file; compress it to a .gz file; ftp it; then decompress it. The file size is identical upon arrival, but it is no longer recognized as an executable... only a text document. I am using binfile throughout (put the compress of url binfile:xxx into url binfile:xxx.gz). What am I missing? I am transferring from a Mac server to a Mac computer. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?
I didn't, but since this bug was discussed in some detail a while back, I believe others have submitted it. It's a rather serious loss of functionality on the Mac side that the engineers must be aware of. Richard Robert Brenstein wrote: On 22.11.09 at 07:53 -0500 Richard Miller apparently wrote: Solved it. It was that bug in revweb that requires the security window (under OSX 10.4.11, at least) to be slightly moved before buttons on it will respond. I certainly hope this bug is resolved very shortly. Richard Miller Did you enter it into the bug tracker aka qcc ? Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?
I entered it. It's not clear if it was already entered, but it's certainly in there now. Richard Robert Brenstein wrote: On 23.11.09 at 17:01 -0500 Richard Miller apparently wrote: I didn't, but since this bug was discussed in some detail a while back, I believe others have submitted it. It's a rather serious loss of functionality on the Mac side that the engineers must be aware of. Richard I suggest you find it to make sure that it is actually entered by someone. The engineers do not follow discussions here. If it is entered, extra votes are always helpful to indicate that more people are affected. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?
Solved it. It was that bug in revweb that requires the security window (under OSX 10.4.11, at least) to be slightly moved before buttons on it will respond. I certainly hope this bug is resolved very shortly. Richard Miller Richard Miller wrote: Just tried getting a revlet to run on an older G4 IBook (PPC), OSX 10.4.11. I can get as far as the security page for revweb, but that's it. Clicking on Allow Always, Allow Once or Deny does nothing. Have to force quit Firefox at that point. Same results under Safari. All software on this unit was just updated, including the latest revweb plugin for Mac PPC. Anyone have any luck with this configuration or is it a known bug? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Does revweb run under osx 10.4.11 / ppc?
Just tried getting a revlet to run on an older G4 IBook (PPC), OSX 10.4.11. I can get as far as the security page for revweb, but that's it. Clicking on Allow Always, Allow Once or Deny does nothing. Have to force quit Firefox at that point. Same results under Safari. All software on this unit was just updated, including the latest revweb plugin for Mac PPC. Anyone have any luck with this configuration or is it a known bug? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Centering revlet in browser
How do I get a revlet to run centered in the browser? I thought a regular align=center tag at the top of the html script would do it, but apparently code is needed elsewhere. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Centering revlet in browser
Solved it. Richard Richard Miller wrote: How do I get a revlet to run centered in the browser? I thought a regular align=center tag at the top of the html script would do it, but apparently code is needed elsewhere. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Centering revlet in browser
The correct tags are right at the beginning of the test.html file that is automatically created after making the revlet. I just had to leave in the CENTER and H1 tags, removing the title only. That did it. Richard Klaus Major wrote: Hi Richard, Solved it. could you please tell us how you solved this? Thanks! Richard Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Releasing a commercial revweb site
I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Andre, Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version (or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group of users. or both? Richard Andre Garzia wrote: Richard, I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue. Andre On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Hi Ed, What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful info. Thanks. Richard Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote: Hi Richard, I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments. We only get one chance at first impressions. Ed On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
Unfortunately, despite repeated tries, I can't get an answer from Rev about this issue of setting the cursor to busy in revweb. I don't know why they would keep this info a secret and leave developers hanging on such a fundamental matter, but that seems to be the case. For now, I have to accept that this functionality won't be available any time soon in revweb. Is this what other developers are assuming as well? Obviously, I can build a field or button that alerts the user when the program is busy, but it's extra work I could do without. I'm not asking Rev to fix this now (though that would be nice). I realize they have a lot on their plates. But I am asking for information on this so folks like myself can take appropriate action. Thanks. Richard Miller J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Cursors were included in the build. Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered custom. What I'm thinking is that the engine can't manipulate cursors at all (and I don't know how easy that is to do within a browser.) So I suspect by custom they mean anything that isn't the system cursor, which the browser applies by default. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WindowID and Revlet ?
Here's what I do to export a snapshot in RevWeb. I'd guess the same code works for import snapshot. This is exporting a snapshot of a player object into a file fname. if development is in the environment then put the rect of player 1 into temp put item 1 of the topleft of this stack into x put item 2 of the topleft of this stack into y put item 1 of temp + x into x1 put item 2 of temp + y into y1 put item 3 of temp + x into x2 put item 4 of temp + y into y2 put x1 comma y1 comma x2 comma y2 into temp2 export snapshot from rect temp2 to file fname as jpeg else put item 1 of the topleft of this stack into tx put item 2 of the topleft of this stack into ty put item 1 of the topleft of player 1 + tx into temp2 put item 2 of the topleft of player 1 + ty into item 2 of temp2 put the bottomright of player 1 into bx put item 1 of bx + tx into item 3 of temp2 put item 2 of bx + ty into item 4 of temp2 export snapshot from rect temp2 to file fname as jpeg end if Hope that does it for you. Richard Miller Ludovic Thébault wrote: Hello, I need to do an import snapshot on a portion of my stack. But if it's work well in revMedia, on the web, the snapshot seem to be relative to the corner of the browser's window, not the stack's window. How do this ? Thx !___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
Hi Jan, I didn't create a formal report, but have sent several emails about this directly to Kevin. Hard to believe those wouldn't get to the proper place, but I probably should file this in the QC center as well. Richard Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi Richard, At the risk of sounding like a broken record: have you filed this in the Quality Control Center? I had a quick search for the words revlet and cursor (both together and apart), and couldn't find such a report. It only takes a minute to fill out a bug report, and the more information they have (example script or ven a complete example stack), the quicker they can find the underlying cause. The good news is: since the release cycle of the revWeb plug-in is separate from the revMedia/Studio/Enterprise IDE, this sort of corrections can be release separately in an incremental patch. But the best way to ensure the RunRev team tackles this, is to report each problem you encounter. And until they implement a fix, you can look for a workaround. In this case, you could disable controls, maybe overlaying everything with a white rectangle that has blendlevel 30, and on top of that a regular progress bar, or even an indeterminate progress bar image. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Sat, 11/14/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: Unfortunately, despite repeated tries, I can't get an answer from Rev about this issue of setting the cursor to busy in revweb. I don't know why they would keep this info a secret and leave developers hanging on such a fundamental matter, but that seems to be the case. For now, I have to accept that this functionality won't be available any time soon in revweb. Is this what other developers are assuming as well? Obviously, I can build a field or button that alerts the user when the program is busy, but it's extra work I could do without. I'm not asking Rev to fix this now (though that would be nice). I realize they have a lot on their plates. But I am asking for information on this so folks like myself can take appropriate action. Thanks. Richard Miller J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Cursors were included in the build. Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered custom. What I'm thinking is that the engine can't manipulate cursors at all (and I don't know how easy that is to do within a browser.) So I suspect by custom they mean anything that isn't the system cursor, which the browser applies by default. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
I hear you Jan. No problem. My thought was not to expect a response from Kevin, but that it takes only a few seconds for him to forward it to the appropriate party. But I'll file a formal report now. Richard Jan Schenkel wrote: This may sound rude, Richard, but please don't bug Kevin directly about this sort of thing. He is the _manager_ of the company, and even if he likes scripting himself (which he does), his job is to run the business and ensure its commercial success. He receives loads of emails every day, and it may take him quite a while to respond - and the man does deserve a vacation every once in a while ;-) There are procedures in place for when you encounter issues: email supp...@runrev.com for any problems you encounter, and they will be routed to the correct person, depending on the content of the email. And please file any bug using the Quality Control Center. That's where the software engineers will look. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
I heard this message three hours ago and stated I was filing a report then. It's been done. Richard Miller stephen barncard wrote: Richard, it only takes a few seconds for you to post it at the bug report site if you want those who will fix the problem to see your entry. Emails are a lousy bug fixing support tool, hard to collect, distribute and file. Please don't *bug* the CEO on support matters He's working on the 'next big thing'. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/11/14 Richard Miller w...@together.net: I hear you Jan. No problem. My thought was not to expect a response from Kevin, but that it takes only a few seconds for him to forward it to the appropriate party. But I'll file a formal report now. Richard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the line number from on menupick
Jan, Thanks! Works perfectly. Exactly what I was looking for. Richard Miller Jan Schenkel wrote: Well, rev 3.5 introduced something called menu 'tagging' - here's a copy from the IDE change log included with rev 3.5 === Menu-item tagging ~ The menu item specification has been extended to allow a tag to be specified. It is now of the form: label [ '/' [ accelerator ] [ '|' tag ] ] Note that the tag is optional as is the accelerator however, if you want an item with a tag but without the accelerator you need: label '/' '|' tag The tag must only be composed of characters from the ASCII character set. If a menu item has a tag then it is the tag string that is passed to menuPick rather than the label. This is useful for localization of menu items as you don't need to change the menuPick handler for each language supported. The following tags should be used to label the standard edit menu items to enable them to be controlled by the system dialogs on Mac OS X (e.g. answer file, ask file etc.): undo, redo, cut, copy, paste, clear, select all, preferences Note: You should not mix the use of tags and no tags in Unicode menus. Doing so will cause empty values for all unicode items without tags. === Even though it sounds like it's only for menubar menus, tagging works for any type of menu. So you can use this knowledge to make the text: My Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|1 My Subgroup/|2 tabMy Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|3 My Silly Name That I Reuse For Everything/|4 And then your menupick will automagically get the 'tag' value as the line number; of course with sub-menus, you get a pipe-delimited list of tags, with the entire hierarchy. So assuming that you change the text of your menu to the above style, your script could be something like: ## on menuPick pItemTag set the itemDelimiter to | put the last item of pItemTag into tLineNumber ... end menuPick ## Menu tags also greatly simplify multilingual apps, as we can now just tag the items in our preferred language (or english, for consistency with the MacOSX presets) and work with the tag in our scripts. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I have a pulldown button with data in it that makes it act as a cascading menu. When the user selects an item, I need to know which item has been selected... not just the text, but the line number or some other data that would let me know which item was selected, so I can get more info about that item from an associated database. The problem I have is that many of the lines in the cascading menu appear identical by name, though they are not the same item. It's just that the label assigned by the user is the same (they represent names of videos and the user can name them any way they want, even though the actual file names are different). Any given line in the menu may be 5-10 words long... which as it is, makes the menu rather wide. I could add an identifying tag after each line [ such as (1), (2), etc.], but that's not very elegant (but perhaps the only solution). I tried using: put the selectedlines of me put the menuhistory of me But these don't seem to work with cascading menus. Any tricks here that would give me the line number selected? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the line number from on menupick
Jacqueline, In this situation, the instance of duplicate menu items actually serves the end user, as it encourages them to create more descriptive labels. These menu items are videos that have been imported into my program. The original video file names are just a series of numbers (like 12453253.mov). When they get imported into my program, they are assigned a label, un-named video. This label is what users see in the pulldown menu when they go to access one of these videos. So unless they've given the video a more descriptive label (they can label a video just about anything they want), the menu can display a list with some items of the same name. Yes, I could automatically label each incoming video with a sequentially higher number, like un-named video 11, un-named video 12, etc., but that process actually gets rather messy in my program and tends to discourage people from relabeling the videos. Richard Miller J. Landman Gay wrote: dunb...@aol.com wrote: Jacque: I could not get a valid line number for a submenu. I understand using a secondary routine to find the line number in the button contents, since I can find the menuPicked text, but are you saying you can get the line number directly? No, I was only saying what you describe -- getting the lineoffset of the menupick param in the contents of the button. But that relies on each menu item being different, which I don't see as a disadvantage. I can't think of any software where duplicate menu items would be considered okay. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: folders in revlet
Just change this line: set the filename of image 1 to gSlide to this: put url (binfile: gSlide) into image 1 It's the way it has to be for revlets. Richard Miller Rick Rice wrote: Just for the heck of it I decided to have a look at Revolution Media 4.0.0. To this point I have been using Revolution 2.6.1. The ability to save your stack for the web blew me away. Only one problem, I store hundreds of images in separate folders and call them into the stack as I need them. This doesn't work in the revlet. I imagine many on this list have solved this problem. Could someone post the appropriate script so that the revlet can access images stored in separate folders. Thanks Rick The way I do it now is: first I find the folder with the images on gettheImageList global stackaddress, stackpath put the filename of this stack into stackpath set itemdel to / If (IsOSX()) then -- to get Mac path get offset(.app/Contents/MacOS/, stackpath) if it 0 then -- 2.4.3 or later delete char it to len(stackpath) of stackpath end if end if delete the last item of stackpath put stackpath into stackaddress put /urinalysisTestImages after stackaddress end gettheImageList Then I pick an image put it into gSlide and display it like this: on displayimage global gSlide, stackaddress, correctanswer put stackaddress gSlide into gSlide set the filename of image 1 to gSlide show image 1 end displayimage ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
Is that what others are finding as well. that setting the cursor to busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps this is a known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure. If this is a problem and isn't going to be fixed very shortly, I'll need to revise all those lines of code to provide some other type of feedback to users. So before undertaking that task, I'm checking in with others. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set cursor to busy not working in revweb?
Cursors were included in the build. Hard to believe a busy cursor can be considered custom. It's the only easy way of telling people the software is busy doing something. I'm sure they are working on it. I just wanted to find out if maybe this already worked in other environments. Richard J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Is that what others are finding as well. that setting the cursor to busy under revweb has no effect? I'm testing under XP. Perhaps this is a known issue, but I couldn't tell for sure. It was listed on the troubleshooting page; custom cursors are not yet supported. I'm not sure if the busy cursor is considered custom; did you make sure to include cursors before you built the revlet? If so, then I guess busy is custom. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Getting the line number from on menupick
I have a pulldown button with data in it that makes it act as a cascading menu. When the user selects an item, I need to know which item has been selected... not just the text, but the line number or some other data that would let me know which item was selected, so I can get more info about that item from an associated database. The problem I have is that many of the lines in the cascading menu appear identical by name, though they are not the same item. It's just that the label assigned by the user is the same (they represent names of videos and the user can name them any way they want, even though the actual file names are different). Any given line in the menu may be 5-10 words long... which as it is, makes the menu rather wide. I could add an identifying tag after each line [ such as (1), (2), etc.], but that's not very elegant (but perhaps the only solution). I tried using: put the selectedlines of me put the menuhistory of me But these don't seem to work with cascading menus. Any tricks here that would give me the line number selected? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the line number from on menupick
I did check the dictionary, and that trip me up item is in there. That's why I said menuhistory doesn't work with a cascading menu is there another way? Thanks. Richard Miller dunb...@aol.com wrote: The menuHistory is a property that returns the line number of the menuitem selected. It does not matter how complex the menuItem is, since these are delimited by returns. But check out the dictionary; there is something about cascading menus that might trip you up. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 4.0.0-gm-1 is now available through Rev Update Checker
I'm not having any success installing RevMedia 4.0 under XP and I've never had a problem installing any Rev program before. Tried numerous times. Tried restarting. I get part way through, then a Rev error code comes up (which I have sent to the Rev engineers). Anyone else had success under XP? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 4.0.0-gm-1 is now available through Rev Update Checker
That did it. Thanks Kevin. Total uninstall of the beta version is necessary. All the RevMedia bugs I had reported appear corrected. Great work! Thanks. Richard Miller Kevin Miller wrote: On 11/11/2009 11:41, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: SO: get version 4 from here: https://secure.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ and do a full install. The revMedia for Mac there fails to install. If you have the alpha/beta installed, try deleting it first. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New build of the plugin
I've reported these three bugs. Perhaps others can verify. I've only tested under XP and Firefox. This sequence will crash RevWeb: set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath(desktop) put the detailed files - This does not appear to work during runtime: click at 0,0 mousedoubledown requires 3 mouse clicks... not 2 during runtime --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where to store data under Windows
I know this topic has been talked about before where to store Rev stacks that will be frequently (and automatically) updated when running under Windosw. As a result, I've followed the general guidance of storing these stacks in the Documents folder. This seems to avoid any problems with the Windows virtual folders issue. I haven't actually tested this under Windows 7, but I assume it is still a valid and safe place. However, I'm running into a new issue. My program stores video files in this same location, as these videos are tightly integrated into the program. I wouldn't mind storing the videos elsewhere if there is a better location, provided Windows will not interfere with any deleting or modifying of the video data. The issue I have is that my users could easily be storing several GB's of video data... perhaps too much for their default C drive (where the Documents folder is). Right now, my program uses the specialfolderpath(documents) command to initially determine where to store the Rev stacks and videos. I wouldn't want to offer the user the option to choose a different location for the Rev stacks, as they could easily choose a location that is effected by the virtualization issue. My current thinking: 1. Keep storing the Rev stacks in Documents folder on the C drive, so these files don't take up much room. 2. Give the user the option to select where to put the video files... ASSUMING that no matter where they choose, Windows won't interfere with adding, deleting and modifying these files. I'm not sure that this assumption is correct. If it is not, where should I restrict them to placing these videos? Is it a good assumption that if they choose any location NOT on their C drive, Windows won't interfere? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to store data under Windows
Hi Jim, The reason for not necessarily selecting the My Videos folder is that the user may not wish (or be able to) store several GB's of video data under that folder... which presumably is always on their C drive. They may want it on an external drive. I know for many somewhat older computers, disk space on the C drive is limited. Richard Jim Sims wrote: On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Richard Miller wrote: I know this topic has been talked about before where to store Rev stacks that will be frequently (and automatically) updated when running under Windosw. As a result, I've followed the general guidance of storing these stacks in the Documents folder. This seems to avoid any problems with the Windows virtual folders issue. I haven't actually tested this under Windows 7, but I assume it is still a valid and safe place. However, I'm running into a new issue. My program stores video files in this same location, as these videos are tightly integrated into the program. I wouldn't mind storing the videos In the Dictionary, searching with specialfolderpath I find the following: For Windows systems, you can also specify a CSIDL number that identifies a special folder. Some Commonly used CSIDL values are: 0x001a: The user application data folder (e.g. C:/Documents and settings/Fred/Application Data) 0x0023: The all users application data folder (e.g. C:/Documents and settings/all users/Application Data) 0x000d: The My Music folder 0x000e: The My Videos folder 0x0027: The My Pictures folder Is there any reason why 0x000e: The My Videos folder is a not considered? Seems like an appropriate choice. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to store data under Windows
Hi Shao, Yes... this is what I was planning. But exactly which are the no-no folders under Vista and Windows 7? Are there any such folders on any drive other than C? Thanks. Richard Shao Sean wrote: Have it default somewhere (like the My Documents folder) and give the user an option (preference) to move it to where they see fit.. Check if the user picks one of the no-no folders and inform them about the issues if they are not admin.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is applications folder on OSX
Thanks, Sarah. However, I don't believe one can put a filename into a player object and still have it be a player, rather than a videoclip object. I've resolved the issue for now by combining line 1 of the volumes with specialfolderpath(apps) under OSX. Hopefully, this produces a reliable long path to a video. Richard Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: Not sure how to solve this. put specialfolderpath(apps) /videos into mainfolder The above line does create the correct pathway to this folder in Applications. However, I then need to set the filename of a player to a video inside that folder. put mainfolder /test1.mov into fname set the filename of player 1 to (file:/// fname) I need to use the file:/// syntax because this is being done through revweb in a browser (which seems to require this syntax... unlike a regular player in a standalone). Using the above, the filename in the player will NOT be correct, however, because the player requires the users HD name to be right after file:///. In other words: This doesn't work for the filename of the player: file:///Applications/videos/test1.mov This works: file:///Macintosh HD/Applications/videos/test1.mov I'm not sure how to correct this. None of the OSX specialfolderpath returned values contain the HD portion of the pathway. I found with images, that setting the filename did not work. I had to use: put URL (binfile: tFileName) into image Pic Maybe something similar would work for your videos. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
set the defaultfolder to desktop... crashes revweb on XP
Can others verify this (on other platforms as well)? Has it perhaps been documented already? This sequence crashes RevMedia (in both the development and runtime environments) on my XP machine: set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath(desktop) put the detailed files Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevWeb ask not working on my end
Can anyone get an Ask dialog box to work through revweb in a browser? Tried on XP without success. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where is applications folder on OSX
Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is applications folder on OSX
So just use specialfolderpath(apps)? Is that the right syntax? Thanks. Devin Asay wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Richard Miller wrote: Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it? Richard, Ken Ray has worked this all out and posted a great resource page on specialfolderpath(): http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is applications folder on OSX
Thanks. Colin Holgate wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Richard Miller wrote: Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it? The help on specialfolderpath goes into great detail, and also points to this handy page: http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Folder_Manager/Reference/reference.html From that you can work out that this will give you the Applications path: put specialfolderpath(apps) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is applications folder on OSX
Not sure how to solve this. put specialfolderpath(apps) /videos into mainfolder The above line does create the correct pathway to this folder in Applications. However, I then need to set the filename of a player to a video inside that folder. put mainfolder /test1.mov into fname set the filename of player 1 to (file:/// fname) I need to use the file:/// syntax because this is being done through revweb in a browser (which seems to require this syntax... unlike a regular player in a standalone). Using the above, the filename in the player will NOT be correct, however, because the player requires the users HD name to be right after file:///. In other words: This doesn't work for the filename of the player: file:///Applications/videos/test1.mov This works: file:///Macintosh HD/Applications/videos/test1.mov I'm not sure how to correct this. None of the OSX specialfolderpath returned values contain the HD portion of the pathway. Suggestions? Thanks. Richard Miller Colin Holgate wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Richard Miller wrote: Is there a simple and reliable way to know where the primary Applications folder is under OSX? Is there a specialfolderpath() to it? The help on specialfolderpath goes into great detail, and also points to this handy page: http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Folder_Manager/Reference/reference.html From that you can work out that this will give you the Applications path: put specialfolderpath(apps) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
Len, Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I hope. Richard Len Morgan wrote: I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right. Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent. I use cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them. I have a Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which each have their own their own line on this menu. I can't take the mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without it going away. On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level work fine. It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select anything below it either. len morgan Richard Miller wrote: David, There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. The problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and have it work properly? Richard dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: Richard Miller wrote: ... 1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it. ... 3. Go back and enter this into the message box: put return tab tab choice x after line 1 of btn 1 4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it. ... Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3. David Epstein ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
Sorry, Richard it was regarding the latter (popup/pulldowns). What's the disadvantage of using a pulldown menu with tabs to create submenu's... as opposed to a cascade menu button? Richard Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I hope. Len Morgan wrote: I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right. Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent. I use cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them. I have a Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which each have their own their own line on this menu. I can't take the mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without it going away. On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level work fine. It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select anything below it either. There are a two issues with cascade-style menus: 1. They don't draw using OS menus, but instead use emulated menus 2. They require that the mouse be held down, rather than just clicked as with other menus But note that those are with the cascade menu button style, not with using tab-spaced sub-menus in pullDown style buttons. Was the note from Support that they would address cascade style menus specifically, or with sub-menus in pullDown menus? I sure hope it's the former, as I love using cascade styles for flyout menus but have had to do some funky workarounds to get the to work correctly. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
Hi Jan, Yes, this was what I originally expected. But it's not working as of yet during runtime... only in the development environment. Will this be implemented shortly (prior to launch) so that it works the same during runtime? What if the two stacks are sized differently? What will happen then? It would be nice to have answers to these now so that developers like myself can make adjustments based on fairly large items like this. I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during runtime... no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the stack so it functions as a button with cascading selections), depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails. Obviously, they are making substantial changes to the runtime environment on a daily basis. This makes development very difficult. I can work around much of this and focus on other items, but it's the not knowing what we'll end up with by 11/11 that makes all of this stressful, if not impossible. I actually don't think they know either. It seems to be very much a day-by-day situation. On the other hand, I fully appreciate the enormity of the challenge they face. Richard Jan Schenkel wrote: --- On Thu, 10/29/09, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: Richard (or anyone else), In the known issues section (http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/) covering Revmedia, it is stated that go in window of stack will be fixed shortly. What do you interpret this functionality to mean? It obviously doesn't relate to go to card x, since that works fine now. Thanks. Richard Miller Hi Richard, Using 'go stack OtherStack in the window of this stack you can go to another stack without leaving the current window - it's as if the target stack window opens in the same rectangle as the original stack and then the original stack window closes, but without the actual opening and closing of windows. Just give it a try: - create a new stack MyMain - drop in a button Go sub with script on mouseUp go stack MySub in the window of this stack end mouseUp - create a new substack MySub - drop in a button Go main with script on mouseUp go stack MyMain in the window of this stack end mouseUp Now play around with it, and you'll see that the same window remains open and you're just hopping back and forth seamlessly between the mainstack and substack. To me, this sounds like the best interim solution for revlets' inability to open new windows for substacks - and it certainly fits in with the AJAX paradigm of modifying the current page rather than loading a whole new page. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
Richard, Timely question. I'm using a cascading menu/button to give the user the option to select a video file which could reside in any of three folders. Each folder has one or more subfolders. For example: Video Group 1 Animals Elephant.mov Tiger.mov People Richard.mov Video Group 2 Cars Ford.mov Chevy.mov etc... The advantage of this approach is it takes up very little room on the screen (i.e. just one small button), but provides easy access to lots of files. I was about to submit this bug report (this functionality worked two days ago, but not now), but I'd like others to test it first. I could only test it under XP. Start with a new stack in Media. 1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it. 2. Run it in a browser. Should function normally... meaning, you can select one of the three items. 3. Go back and enter this into the message box: put return tab tab choice x after line 1 of btn 1 4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it. 5. Run it in a browser. When I test this now, it is no longer possible to select any menu item, let alone choice x. Is that what others are finding? Thanks. Richard Miller Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Miller wrote: I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during runtime... no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the stack so it functions as a button with cascading selections), depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails. At last I've found someone else who uses cascade menus! Cascade menus were originally added as part of the old stack-based menu system, which few people use anymore now that we can use the textual contents of menu button as menu items without having to build a stack for those. But cascade menus remain very useful for another purpose, as flyout menus. Adobe and many others place such menus at the upper-right of their palettes, and they're useful in other contexts as well. But unfortunately, the behavior of cascade menus differs from others in that most menus let you click and release and the menu stays up until you either select one of its items or click away from it, but cascade menus only appear as long as the mouse is down. Also, while most menu styles render their menus using OS routines, cascade menus draw using the built-in emulated appearances, giving them a non-standard look that compounds the non-standard behavior. There are workarounds for this, but they're not straightforward to implement and would certainly throw off the newcomer. Jacque has noted this in the RQCC, and I've amended her request with additional notes: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1338 Richard, what do you use cascade menus for? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
David, There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. The problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and have it work properly? Richard dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: Richard Miller wrote: ... 1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it. ... 3. Go back and enter this into the message box: put return tab tab choice x after line 1 of btn 1 4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it. ... Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3. David Epstein ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
Richard (or anyone else), In the known issues section (http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/) covering Revmedia, it is stated that go in window of stack will be fixed shortly. What do you interpret this functionality to mean? It obviously doesn't relate to go to card x, since that works fine now. Thanks. Richard Miller Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Having survived SuperCard's web plugin and 'Windows' version, I still am very optimistic. We already have something much more than the SC plugin and with a path to further features and possibilities. I understood this to be 'final' but with many updates after that. 2 cents Well, I am fantasizing about the RunRev team getting as cheesed-off as I am by my negative flack and releasing a version where palettes finction perfectly as a way to get me to shut-up . . .:) Maybe my thinking is too conventional on this, but the range of potential issues with palettes running from a browser plugin would seem to reach beyond the merely technical into the cognitive: User expectations of the browser experience are well honed from a decade of relatively consistent exposure to a common set of conventions. While the content and specific interactions within a page will vary from site to site, users are very accustomed to seeing things for a specific page within that page, often as movable layers but rarely as separate windows. The benefit to this approach is that it keeps all of a web app's parts in one place. Most users today have multiple tabs open, and it's not uncommon for them to switch between them while they're browsing. If a palette window is opened from a Revlet in one tab, what does that palette do when the user switches to another tab? Presumably it wouldn't attempt to affect anything in the current tab's page, but since the page with the Revlet is no longer in view the user has no way to know how interacting with the palette will affect what's on that page. In desktop apps, when you switch to another application palettes are automatically hidden; they're in front only when the relevant app is in front, but once that app goes to the background there's no way to use palettes to accidentally alter the content of a window that may not be visible. While browsers provide notification when a page is being closed, I don't believe they provide notification when another tab is selected (do they?). This would make it difficult to know when to hide and show your palettes, leaving parts of your app overlaying the rest of the browser experience. Having Revlets open new Rev stack windows was a nifty option, but I'm not sure I'll miss it much. There are more conventional ways to get the same benefits, ways that arguably better meet user expectations by keeping all of your app's parts together on one page. A nice a flourish as those stack windows were, offhand I can't think of anything I would truly need to use them for that I can't do with a group on the card in a way that looks and feels a bit more like a web app. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta
So at the moment, anyway, it's no longer possible to open a second stack in a new window (in RevMedia) above the browser window. Meaning, if one is in the primary stack and issues the command, go cd 1 of stack x, nothing happens. In the alpha version, it would open a new window. From what I've read, I gather it WILL be possible to navigate from the initial stack to a different stack, but only within the same browser window. It will NOT be possible to open a stack/window above the browser (other than answer/ask). Is my understanding correct or have I missed something. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bizarre Quicktime bug
I need the help of any genius around here who can help solve a bizarre bug. I have one customer (and only one) who is using my Rev video software on a PC and is encountering this bug. He actually has a laptop and desktop, both with Vista, and has this same problem on both. 1. Transfer a video from his camera to a flash drive. AVI or MOV... doesn't matter. We've tried both. These are all H.264 encoded. 2. Play the video file directly from his flash drive in QT. Plays fine. No problem at all. 3. Transfer the file to his desktop, then play it in QT. Corrupted. Parts of the video become distorted. It plays, but is obviously corrupted. This occurs on both of his computers. We've tried this numerous times. Now it gets a bit more bizarre. If we try to play one of the desktop-based video files in the Kodak playback software that came with his Kodak camera, it plays fine. The Kodak camera can transfer the video from the flash drive to his Documents folder, then play it back from there with no problem. But if the file is copied from the flash drive to the desktop by drag-and-drop, then played in QT, it is corrupted. I have gone in through remote access to disable just about every program I could think of (on his computer) that might be causing this problem. The problem persists. Any ideas? Thanks. Richard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bizarre Quicktime bug
I noticed that tip and tried it (i.e. about running QT in safe mode). Didn't help with this problem, though. Thanks for the suggestion. Richard runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, i do not know if this help, but Josh Mellicker posted something about Vista,QT and Standalones on the 29th september to this list. Look for the topic possible valuable tip for improving Quicktime playback in Vista - please test if you have time Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Bizarre Quicktime bug (07-Okt-2009 13:05) From:Richard Miller w...@together.net To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de I need the help of any genius around here who can help solve a bizarre bug. I have one customer (and only one) who is using my Rev video software on a PC and is encountering this bug. He actually has a laptop and desktop, both with Vista, and has this same problem on both. 1. Transfer a video from his camera to a flash drive. AVI or MOV... doesn't matter. We've tried both. These are all H.264 encoded. 2. Play the video file directly from his flash drive in QT. Plays fine. No problem at all. 3. Transfer the file to his desktop, then play it in QT. Corrupted. Parts of the video become distorted. It plays, but is obviously corrupted. This occurs on both of his computers. We've tried this numerous times. Now it gets a bit more bizarre. If we try to play one of the desktop-based video files in the Kodak playback software that came with his Kodak camera, it plays fine. The Kodak camera can transfer the video from the flash drive to his Documents folder, then play it back from there with no problem. But if the file is copied from the flash drive to the desktop by drag-and-drop, then played in QT, it is corrupted. I have gone in through remote access to disable just about every program I could think of (on his computer) that might be causing this problem. The problem persists. Any ideas? Thanks. Richard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevMedia - ready now?
A few questions. 1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing substacks to open in front of the browser. 2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, or is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making a change to their OS settings. I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's just a product information page meaning, it doesn't require any permissions from the user to view it, other than installation of the plugin. If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this page, is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have little problem installing the plugin and viewing the page? Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin arrives Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia - ready now?
Andre, Thanks. Would you take a stab at defining little? You thinking a week or a month? Richard Andre Garzia wrote: Richard, I would wait a little more... Andre On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: A few questions. 1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing substacks to open in front of the browser. 2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, or is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making a change to their OS settings. I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's just a product information page meaning, it doesn't require any permissions from the user to view it, other than installation of the plugin. If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this page, is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have little problem installing the plugin and viewing the page? Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin arrives Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia - ready now?
Thanks for the advice. I agree with you. I'll wait... hoping it's just a week or so, and not a month or two. Richard Andre Garzia wrote: I have no clue, but I am waiting for the next plugin before releasing anything. the current one has some random jinx in it that is not compatible with releasing a product, thats why it is an alpha. Use this interval now to improve your product, this way, by the time they deliver a beta or a final, you'll have a better product than the one you have now. even if the current plugin works for 450 out of your 500 guys, the other 50 might be very vocal and wreck your opening party. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: Andre, Thanks. Would you take a stab at defining little? You thinking a week or a month? Richard Andre Garzia wrote: Richard, I would wait a little more... Andre On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: A few questions. 1. Presumably, a new version of the plugin is to be released soon... is that right? At least one that fixes the basic issue of allowing substacks to open in front of the browser. 2. Does installation of the plugin work for most PC and Mac users now, or is there a meaningful subset of these folks who would have difficulty installing it with the current version? I read something about Vista corporate users who might not be able to install it without first making a change to their OS settings. I'd like to be able to introduce the general population to a simple revweb-based page I've put together introducing a new product. This page doesn't include anything other than fields, buttons and images. It's just a product information page meaning, it doesn't require any permissions from the user to view it, other than installation of the plugin. If I had 500 run-of-the-mill PC and Mac users attempt to access this page, is it reasonable to expect the great majority of them will have little problem installing the plugin and viewing the page? Or should I wait longer on this until a new version of the plugin arrives Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Safe place to write a file under Vista
I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it is not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems that Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, where is a reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon thereafter be deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Safe place to write a file under Vista
Thanks, Terry. That sounds like the best bet. Richard Terry Judd wrote: What about trying specialfolderpath(temporary) or 'the tempname'? Terry... On 2/09/09 4:28 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it is not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems that Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, where is a reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon thereafter be deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Safe place to write a file under Vista
Thanks Mark. Richard Mark Smith wrote: Richard - 'the tempname' might be what you're after. ie. put the tempname into tFile -- do stuff with the file delete file tFile On my OS X machine, put the tempname gives this: /private/var/tmp/folders.501/TemporaryItems/tmp0 (repeated calls will increment that trailing zero) What it would be on windows, I don't know, but it will be an appropriate equivalent. Best, Mark On 2 Sep 2009, at 07:28, Richard Miller wrote: I am finding that, on some Vista machines with some user settings, it is not possible to write a file from Rev to the root C drive. Seems that Vista blocks this action. Does that sound about right? If so, where is a reliable, safe place to write a file (which will soon thereafter be deleted)? Is specialfolderpath(documents) safe? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Temporary storage of imagedata
This is for a revlet application. I'm looking at various ways to temporarily store image snapshots before displaying them in a stack. The objective is to record several hundred screen shots (one per second), store them temporarily, then put the images into a new stack, one image per card, for replay. The temporary storage process needs to occur very quickly, as the user is interacting with the main stack while the recording is taking place. Each snapshot is shot with a low jpegquality (30-40), as the file size of the final group of images must be kept to a minimum so it can be transferred fairly quickly over the net. Each image is averaging 30k. 100 images is 3 mb... which will work for this application. Right now, I am just saving each snapshot to a file, then at the end of the recording process, quickly putting each image onto a card. That whole saving-to-stack process takes about 10 seconds or so, which is fine. I'm thinking it might be better/more elegant to store the imagedata of all the images into one variable (rather than to separate files), but I'm not sure how best to store this data (since it is binary and contains many lines per image). Then, at the end of the recording, I could transfer just this data over the net (stored as one binary file), then either create a display stack containing one image per card, or maybe even better, just create one card with one image on the fly, pulling the data for each image from this data variable. Thoughts? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Temporary storage of imagedata
Mark, Thanks! Works perfect. Richard Mark Smith wrote: Richard, the imagedata will tend to be a lot bigger (maybe 10x) than the compressed image file, so you probably want to store the text of image someimage, and then set the text of image someimage to tStoredData[1]. The text of an image is what would be in the file - ie. the text of image someimage.jpg is the same as what you'd get from get url (binfile:someimage.jpeg), whereas the imagedata is (I think) the actual pixels that revolution displays. Other than that, I'd think your idea would work well. If you store the text of your images in an array, then you could serialize the array with arrayencode, (and maybe base64encode the result for transmission over the net). Best, Mark Smith On 24 Aug 2009, at 13:28, Richard Miller wrote: This is for a revlet application. I'm looking at various ways to temporarily store image snapshots before displaying them in a stack. The objective is to record several hundred screen shots (one per second), store them temporarily, then put the images into a new stack, one image per card, for replay. The temporary storage process needs to occur very quickly, as the user is interacting with the main stack while the recording is taking place. Each snapshot is shot with a low jpegquality (30-40), as the file size of the final group of images must be kept to a minimum so it can be transferred fairly quickly over the net. Each image is averaging 30k. 100 images is 3 mb... which will work for this application. Right now, I am just saving each snapshot to a file, then at the end of the recording process, quickly putting each image onto a card. That whole saving-to-stack process takes about 10 seconds or so, which is fine. I'm thinking it might be better/more elegant to store the imagedata of all the images into one variable (rather than to separate files), but I'm not sure how best to store this data (since it is binary and contains many lines per image). Then, at the end of the recording, I could transfer just this data over the net (stored as one binary file), then either create a display stack containing one image per card, or maybe even better, just create one card with one image on the fly, pulling the data for each image from this data variable. Thoughts? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revLet image
Hi Kenji, This works for a locally-stored image: set the filename of image 1 to file:///c:/folder1/folder2/myImage.jpg You should include the full local path to the image... not just the relative path, along with the prefix file:/// This should work for an image stored on a server: set the filename of image 1 to http://kenjikojima.com/Photo/myImage.jpg; I would guess something was incorrect with the http address above... either mis-spelled or incorrect capitalization (which must be precise for some servers). Otherwise, this has been working fine for me. Richard Miller Kenji Kojima wrote: Hi, I cannot set image filename of revLet. I tried them. set the filename of image 1 to myImage.jpg set the filename of image 1 to http://kenjikojima.com/Photo/myImage.jpg; And used Network of Standalone Application setting. But I could not show the image. It was just a gray image object. Does anybody know how I can show an image. Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution