Re: customizing answer dialogs
Hi - just break up the prompt line with a return before using in the dialog. answer 012345678901234567890 return SECOND LINE with yes or no I know this has been asked before but I can't remember the answer, and I can't search the list archives because I can't remember how (which I know has also been answered before). :-) I want to be able to adjust the width of the answer dialog before it's displayed on the screen. How can I do that? My app window is 750 pixels wide. I have a fairly longish message to display, but the answer dialog comes up wider than my window, which is a lot wider than I want it to be. And if someone can tell me again how to search the archives, I promise I won't repeat questions like this again. :-) Thanks, Chris Sheffield ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: customizing answer dialogs
it seems odd that one can't get at least the local IP, router and ethernet info through system calls - I mean the control panel in OS X and Windoze both have this information. I guess the machines using NAT wouldn't know the real IP seen by the net unless done from the outside.. I use IPNETMONITOR by Peter Sichel, and I see his app grabbed all the info I'd need about the networking in my machine in the 'info' panel, however there was a tell-tale sign he was using some outside server to deliver the Public IP Address: 61.161.73.241/body/html ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QUESTION: How to get a remote directory file listing
Thanks to Andre Garzia for his little stack which answered most of my questions... For me, the main question answered is that the directory info back from the URL command needs to be called twice and PARSED (we don't get a simple list right away) and also the libURLSetFTPListCommand libURL call must be used. ALSO everyone was quite right in saying that, of course, the FTP URL is going to be a different path than an HTTP one. Ideally, I'd like to get everything through HTTP calls without sending pass/user but then I'd have to parse the HTML that is happily provided by the web server when a directory only request is made (and might be different between server OS's.??) Is that the way that all FTP clients work, by parsing plain text returned from the FTP server? I'm asking if FTP servers have no 'binary' mode for transferring directory listings? -- it's all text except when exchanging data? -- --- Stephen Barncard record production and surround mixing Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB http://www.barncard.com/ --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DATABASE FUNCTIONS
Trevor, thanks for your efforts to shine a light on this. Wayne and Frank: thanks for the step-by-steps. Tuviah, thanks for your pointing me to the library. This is truly a helping community. Thanks. stephen barncard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DATABASE FUNCTIONS
Gee, was it something I said? Was I gone too long? Doesn't anyone here work with the dynamic (sql) stuff in rev? So I didn't get a response. I guess my post was too long and rambling. I'll boil it down to this: Does Rev's Database Builder have some issues? I seem to run up against some limitations such as integer variables being displayed in a field with unwanted leading zeroes (which caused problems when written back to MySQL) and the fields not being refreshed after being changed. Do the database primitives work better than to use the builders? I mean, is the only way I'm going to really get control of the data and change it going in and out is to do it directly? And does that mean that the 'binding' would have to be done with put statements from variables? Finally, does someone have a good example of recent stacks that demonstrate how the primitives are used? thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DATABASE FUNCTIONS
So I didn't get a response. I guess my post was too long and rambling. I'll boil it down to this: Does Rev's Database Builder have some issues? I seem to run up against some limitations such as integer variables being displayed in a field with unwanted leading zeroes (which caused problems when written back to MySQL) and the fields not being refreshed after being changed. Do the database primitives work better than to use the builders? I mean, is the only way I'm going to really get control of the data and change it going in and out is to do it directly? And does that mean that the 'binding' would have to be done with put statements from variables? Finally, does someone have a good example of recent stacks that demonstrate how the primitives are used? thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Latitude and longitude and HIG
And *why* did Apple drop something as useful as the Map control panel? -- -Mark For the same reason the geeks from NEXT got not invented here syndrome, fired Tog and the Human Interface Group, and changed about 200 conventions and features that worked real well. I really despise what they've done to the interface. Every day, I cringe at the stupid things they've done and the cycle wasting eye candy garbage. I hate the way the windows work, and the loss of the Applications menu... I'm a hard core Apple guy and the dark side is worse to me but there is no reason for that except arrogance and an attempt to out do MS with useless flash. Having said that, OSX is fairly stable and fairly fast but they didn't have to wreck that interface. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Trying to buy Dan's book
Perhaps Kinko's will get better - FEDEX just bought the company. Post if you find a good solution. There has got to be a service online somewhere that does binding of color PDFs. I usually get terrible service at Kinko's, and if you use their DIY workstations, often they are crashed or virus infested, or wrong printer drivers installed, etc. And they are expensive. -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: itemDelimiter
I'm not sure about more than one character being a delimiter, however you could use the Replace function first to substitute the desired phrase with a delimiter character such as tab before selecting items. Hello everybody, I was wondering if the itemDelimiter can be more than one character? I mean instead of , or : can it be !--display paragraphs-- ? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RR as a browser plugin?
ummm there is no such thing as 'Mac Emulation Software' - Apple would never license the firmware...and if I had such Draconian requirements for a class, I'd change schools... And universities... IT departments in universities can be just as strange. My professor, a mac user for a particular program (Accordance), instead of being permitted to bring in his own computer at his own expense was given a very very very bottom of the barrel PC gray-box and some Mac emulation software. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
hypercard virus
Ha ha the hypercard 'virus' -- written in Hypertalk!! there hasn't been a real mac virus of any kind for about 6 or 7 years... I don't bother with any anti-virus software...I've got enough problems with spam clogs I did see some information about homestacks being infiltrated by a HyperCard virus, but that seems unlikely to be anymore dangerous than, for example, MS Office or Windows in general. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RR as a browser plugin?
But it's under Linux/PPC! If I had a Power PC processor, why bother, I'd just run Mac OS. Sure there is! http://www.maconlinux.org/ Among others. ummm there is no such thing as 'Mac Emulation Software' - Apple would never license the firmware...and if I had such Draconian requirements for a class, I'd change schools... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: emulators
OK, Ok, if one wants to go through hoops to use this stuff. I just know I have old macs lying around that I can't give away that would be easier to use than buying into this emulator package, ROM cards, etc. And it's no good for OSX. I was wrong before... pre OS 9 software is really dead; Apple's making sure it is going away fast. And there is also http://www.softmac2000.com/ If you already own the Mac hardware, it is perfectly legal to emulate your Mac on another machine (although not running simultaneously). We had a 68040 Mac Quadra that died years ago, so we used its ROM in an emulator. When you are porting HyperCard stacks to Revolution on a Windows machine, it is nice to be able to run HyperCard in OS 8.1 so I can visually see the differences. Of course Apple would not be at all happy if OS X were being emulated. ~Roger Sure there is! http://www.maconlinux.org/ Among others. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: viruses
That's not true AT ALL. The PC virus can't execute and 'read your address book' and go somewhere else on a Mac. There is no way (unless you're using a Windoze emulator and getting mail in it) .exe, .bat, .com, etc code can run in a PPC environment. It just ends up being a useless file in your attachments folder. You'd have to forward it intentionally to infect someone else. I dumped megabytes of this crap the other day. I've got my filters in Eudora to trash the email and attachments now... There are some advantages of a niche platform! ha ha I'm kind of guilty of that too (I do have some AV products onboard), but someone I converse with who uses Windows reminded me that, while I may not get a virus, I can still pass one. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copy problems
I have had problems using the clipboard between Classic and OSX Panther. Seems to be a big wall therecan you get a copy of Nisus for OSX? There seems to be a problem with copying from another application to Rev. I am trying to transfer Chinese text step by step into a Rev application .. Fritz ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: import tools
Nick, this is so simple, it would be an excellent exercise in coding.. you could do it in less than 10 lines of code... I used to use the import/export tools stack in HyperCard and wonder if anyone has a similar tool for RR? I am trying to get a routine to import comma separated or tab separated text into separate fields in RR. thanks Nick ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows appearance issues
That's funny, I had a version for OS9 about a year agoand it was free... Button Gadget is only for Windows AFAIK, but I'm developing on a Mac. All the best, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (was Andy's comments and positioning...)
I imagine it would be a nightmare to 'localize' the syntax to French, Germanand prone to more bugs... it's human nature... Though I like the syntax for my own use and for teaching junior associates (it does help), I think the English orientation might be somewhat of a weakness in an global sense. I don't really know and I don't think I'm much of a judge. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: xTalk JPEG parser?
I've tried. I've downloaded the specs and tried to follow them but I couldn't get my code to reliably work on every JPEG. It's harder than it looks. Basically the numbers are in jump tables after the beginning of the file, but there's a few things in the spec I couldn't figure out. There used to be an XCMD for that in HC days, and I know it's possible... I gave up after a while. Also there's new additions to the spec : EXIF which deals with camera info. THere are some fixed bytes at the beginning of the file that point to the next header, then another jump, and another until the end of the headers. Some attempts were based on simple PERL code examples I found on the net, but those didn't work well reliably. There's something missing in the info... Has anyone written parser in xTalk that will parse a JPEG file and get things like the dimensions, EXIF info, etc.? Thanks, -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tagging certain objects with contact, copyright, etc
Those params would be strings as ? or ! -- so that wouldn't be bad syntax or reserved would it? With HC externals I always included the quotes just in case. It was a good convention sqb On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 06:32 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: getPixel(?) -- getPixel(theXY [,theMonitor]);returns: RGB triplet getPixel(!) -- Copyright 2004, JarJar Binks In Revolution one is reserved and the other is bad syntax, but having this info in a regular way from externals would be good. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Supercard Conversion
So I tried to use the Supercard project converter today... it's a mess. It's a SC 3.x project and uses externals. It also had trouble recognizing SC filetypes. I fixed the filetype part (same old OSX problem) but then tried to run (what I think is an external) CopyFile it failed. has anyone upgraded or fixed it recently? Or do I have to find a OS 9 version and try that. At this point it's easier just to cut and paste scripts. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Port Question
This is called IP Tunneling. You can designate your outside world IP to map any port number to any one local IP number/machine. This is done with the router software. On Lynksys and many other routers they are web based. Different port numbers can go to one machine or several, but only one port of that number can be seen by the outside world, where the router looks like one computer. In other words, you can only have one default numbered http server, one ftp server, one real server, etc that is visible to the outside world. sqb All the routers I've owned allow you to assign one system on the network a DMZ (demilitarized zone) address which I believe allows pretty much any traffic in and out. Maybe this is what has to be set up by the game players. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond Does the MetaCard Interface
Why is there a swastika on the toolbar?? To contact white supremacists? Dear xTalk Afficionados, Rampaged all over the MetaCard GUI this winter hols - download it, try it, write me abusive e-mails.. its on my website at the RR GUI HACKS page Best Regards Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Porting PrintReport (was: Re: Windowscript)
I don't know about the Report stack mentioned, but Printreport wasn't a collection of WYSIWYG tools, it was a programming language that allowed complete control of what gets printed on the page through graphic primitives and also allowed as complete an access to the mysterious apple print drivers to the point where you could exchange a printer configuration with the system. But it was up to the user how to manage it. It was all based on text contained in the data sent to the printer through the XCMD. See below for a code dump generated for use by Printreport - Backslashes are the escape character, obviously. Tabs stops are handled as well as line circle and rectangle primitives and some insertion of pict format images. Later when color inkjets appeared, I was pleased to find out that the spec included basic color... although only through a placed graphic. I thought that there was a later version; one that included color for text. This is good. Two actual users of Printreport that could answer this question: How different is PrintReport from the stack named Report that you could download from tools.metacard.com stack? Thanks in advance. al An example of Printreport code is shown below... First is a statement of margins, then CT = tab stops, stops at 0,30 and 85 mm, then a region is created then text is drawn inside it, etc, etc. Pretty screwy, but you could do almost anything with it. I have the manual around somewhere. \LM0in;TM0in;RM0in;BM0in\ \CT;ST0m;ST30m;ST85m\ \sr31p,33p,303p,337p\\pp1;BX\\C+\\FNTimes\\FS14\\PL;BO\20031221 STARCROSSED\FNVerdana\\FS9\\PL\ VERSION \FS16\\PL;BO\5\FS9\\PL\ SEQUENCE 12/21/2003 1. Born Too Late 02:59 2. SUV 03:31 3. Got to Get the Boy Back 04:19 4. Star-Crossed03:11 5. Living in the World 03:39 6. Hungry Heart of Love03:21 7. Backwards 05:04 8. Sanguine03:55 9. Moment to Moment04:00 10. Meltdown03:28 11. Born Too Late (Reprise) 00:45 Total Time: 38:40\XX\\sr0p,-1p,340p,340p;pp2;fr\ \GFG4_BARNCARDIA_PB:Users:sbarncar:Documents: Most Important Data Files:development:sqb HC apps:TC Lable System:Logo PICTS:Civil Defense_300dpiCOL.pict;pp3;CX131p,271p,205p,337p\ \sr31p,373p,303p,677p\\pp1;BX\\C+\\FNTimes\\FS14\\PL;BO\20031221 STARCROSSED\FNVerdana\\FS9\\PL\ VERSION \FS16\\PL;BO\5\FS9\\PL\ SEQUENCE 12/21/2003 1. Born Too Late 02:59 2. SUV 03:31 3. Got to Get the Boy Back 04:19 4. Star-Crossed03:11 5. Living in the World 03:39 6. Hungry Heart of Love03:21 7. Backwards 05:04 8. Sanguine03:55 9. Moment to Moment04:00 10. Meltdown03:28 11. Born Too Late (Reprise) 00:45 Total Time: 38:40\XX\\sr0p,339p,340p,680p;pp2;fr\ \GFG4_BARNCARDIA_PB:Users:sbarncar:Documents: Most Important Data Files:development:sqb HC apps:TC Lable System:Logo PICTS:Civil Defense_300dpiCOL.pict;pp3;CX131p,611p,205p,677p\ \LM1inch;TM.5inch;FNGeneva;FS9\ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] PC-ing A Mac
The spoiled brat should be painfully spanked on the buttocks for that travesty. And he complains about his lack of SATA and a good video card. What a moron. A painfully amusing read: http://www.overclockers.com/tips1133/index.asp At least the leftover parts might be used for something. Regards, Scott Rossi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windowscript
With all due respect, Ray, I think you must be thinking of something else. I used Windowscript for years but it had no report generator. Windowscript was a GUI layer that ran on top of Hypercard...brilliantly I might add. Using Windowscript, Compilit, Printreport and a few others, one could make a real double clickable app completely in Hypercardyes I used Hyperbasic as well... sqb Remember WindowScript? It was *almost* MetaCard, but a lot slower. It had an excellent report generator, altho the script was rather arcane. The creator of WS had two to four ways of doing the same task. He's (or was) the prof of a computer dept at Utah State, I think. The report generator was quasi-postscript: Very fast and reliable. Meebee he would be interested. Ray G. Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windowscript
I'd be happier if he'd bring Printreport to the OSX world, otherwise I'd still be using his XCMDs... actually for some stacks to difficult to convert right now, I do and use it every day in Classic. Even better would be to develop a library for Rev, then everybody would be happy. It got to the point that Hypercard was an ideal interface and glue; but the XCMDs did most of the work. I would often have over 50 in a project and still have thousands of them on a CD. Too bad they can't run in X. It's still PPC code resource - but calls the old APIs... damn.. But Compilit! - Whoa, Tom Pittman, what a genius...maybe he could make a cross platform XCMD generator that runs Transcript... My confusion... I used Windowscript, Compilit, and PrintReport as a unit with HC. Users never saw the HyperCard itself. PrintReport was written by John A. Nairn. I talked with John a number of times about expanding PrintReport to the PC world. He would, he said, if there was a usuable HC there to receive it. Ray G. Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Burning Desire stack - shell command problem
just saw this: If one is really serious about packing CD/DVD burning code into your app, there's always the SDK from Gear for all platforms: http://www.gearsoftware.com/products/wks/index.cfm Remove the space between shell and the first bracket. I ran into the same sort of problem a couple of days ago and that was what fixed it. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On 22 Jan 2004, at 8:55 am, Barry Levine wrote: I have a field named theImageToCreate containing the following text: hdiutil create -fs HFS+ -volname MyDisk -size 100m ~/Desktop/MyDiskImage2.dmg I have a button with the following script: on mouseUp shell (field theImageToCreate) end mouseUp When the script executes, I get an error. Here's the error dialog info: TypeHandler: can't find handler Object Create disk image file Lineshell (field theImageToCreate) Hintshell ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father
There seems to be a few minutes of extreme lucidity in newborns right after birth. My son immediately grabbed my glasses after I picked him up, held onto them, and laughed at me, looking me right in the eyes. Put your face in front of your baby and stick out your tongue. What happens is that they stick out their tongue. Kee ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Interfaces: PC and MAC ------OT
ummm... how can iTunes be a BETAMAX when it's cross platform? You mean it only uploads into an iPod? Or they're not using MP3 ? That will changeOr shareware will appear. Anyway, currently for online music for PCs you have proprietary softwares and no VHS analogy. Richard, Well said. I enjoyed reading the article as well. In fact, it echos something I've been talking about for awhile. I-Tunes is the 'BETAMAX' to the rest of the online Music 'VHS'. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Creating windowShapes in Rev
I agree. Graphic Converter is the best shareware deal ever... and now is included with new Macs... sqb Have you tried GraphicConverter? http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/index.htm I have PhotoShop 7, rarely use it. I create sliced graphics and UI elements in Firewoks, but for simple touch-ups and convrsions I've not found anything as efficient as the modestly-priced GraphicConverter. Best $35 investment I ever made. -- Richard Gaskin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: extract/export audioclips
The only app I could get to work for this purpose is to use the old SoundEdit 16 for system 9. It's a swiss army knife for old sound formats. Last manufacturer was Macromedia but they stopped selling it almost 10 years ago. sqb What are my options for extracting audioclips from an old HyperCard stack into separate .wav files? (I'm working on a Mac.) I tried using the old SoundApp utility, but it was only able to extract 9 out of the 120 snds. This was the error: An unexpected error (ID=-38, File Manager - file not open - fnOpnErr) has occurred. D [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Calendar and notes app
Check out NOW UP TO DATEit has a calendar and contact server.. and cross platform now... http://www.poweronsoftware.com/ sqb In this particular case they all are using Macs. However, iCal won't let multiple users modify the same calendar. I want all of the secretaries to be able to schedule the rooms. I also don't think iCal can do the notes that I'm thinking of. Bill Vlahos On Dec 13, 2003, at 3:36 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Are the folks who need this system on Mac machines? If so, perhaps iCal could be an option. It's supposed to allow web-based syncing of dates/events and I would expect there to be some way to manage notes. This may be an option assuming you don't want to create something yourself. Regards, Scott Rossi ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Networking Mac/PC Windows XP
Don't waste your time trying to make Rev do this -- shareware to the rescue! Get IPNETROUTER for your Mac. It will allow it to be a router for up to 256 machines on your home network. http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html I used an old Mac SE30 as a router for years on a DSL line and it worked great. The 68k version is $50; the OSX version is about $90. For that much money, one also might consider a hardware router which is a better solution for me - I like the Linksys models, with built in hub and web-based setup. sqb Howdy, I have a problem I believe can be solved, but I'm looking for advice. I want to network these two machines, with only one online dialup connection, i.e., networked to where one can serve the internet to the other. Both machines have Cat 5 cable connectors (comm card in the PC), and I have a crossover cable. What I'd like to do is serve the PC from the Mac to where I access the internet from the PC, D/L and install software. ... Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
. Re: cross-stack globals, also, file inclusion
This is the best argument I've seen for global constants. I get it. sqb The major difference I don't think anybody has mentioned is that since the value of a constant is known at compile time, it can be inserted directly into the resulting object code. So the value has only to be looked up once - at compile time - whereas a variable always has to be re-evaluated at runtime. A variable that's got from an accessor would seem to be even more work because a handler has to be run to determine which variable to look up. martin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
. Re: cross-stack globals, also, file inclusion
this is exactly what Compilit! gave to Hypercard -- and allowed one to create externals to do anything...faster..in Hypertalk code. Tom Pittman, where are you now? It occurs to me that, for what I want to accomplish, perhaps my focus should be more on compiler directives or symbol tables than a generalized include capability. In essence, what I want is the ability to declare symbol names values to the compiler. If support for data structures and tool box names were included in such symbol tables, we would be one step closer to supporting direct access to system calls via Transcript. -- Rob Cozens ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: newsgroup vs. mailing list
The new Eudora 6.0 now has threading and a killer spam catcher. Cross platform. sqb Back in July there was a discussion about starting a newgroup- and some people argued that newsreaders can display message threads better than mail readers. My response was - well get a mail reader program that doesn't suck :-) Now in Mac OS 10.3 (Cheetah), Mail.app 1.3 has message threading view! Woohoo! View menu / Organize By Thread. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Mac OS X have a registry?
Mac OS X's 'registry' is part of the Finder and file system, and is not accessible by mere mortals. And since the Windoze registry is routinely accessed by machine and people, I would think it would be a quite poor place to put this information. Encription should handle this level of security -- hiding it like you suggest won't make it any better... Can anyone tell me if Mac OS X has a registry, like Windows? I basically need a place to store an encrypted password, and I need someplace to store it where people would be unlikely to find it. Putting it in the preferences folder would be too obvious. My PC-buddies were telling me that the registry might be a good option, but I don't recall reading anywhere that Mac OS X has such a thing. This password just needs to be stored, and then the user reboots their Mac, and then in the startup folder will exist a .rev app that reads the password and acts upon it, and then deletes it, so it doesn't need to hang around after that point. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-stack globals, also, file inclusion
Please excuse the obvious, but can't a custom property, say in the main stack, act as a global constant? Set it in the IDE and it will persist through standalone creation forever... sqb On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 09:23 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Like global, it would be usable in all scripts. Unlike global, it would not have to be declared in each handler using it. Like constant, it would be directly usable in any handler that wants it. Would each script that uses it, but not define it, have a line in the script like this? global constant ageOfUniverse And then the script for the mainstack have something like this? global constant ageOfUniverse = 1 I wonder if this would work as well: global ageOfUnivere on startup put 1+0 into ageOfUniverse ... end startup BTW, the Transcript Dictionary entry for 'global' is a little confusing and you have to scroll down to get the full picture. It says it must appear in each handler that uses it and then later says you can also place a global command in a script, but outside any handlers. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross-stack globals, also, file inclusion
But wouldn't a custom property, which can only be modified using the IDE, a script or the message box be more of what you want than a constant (which would have to be defined anyway in a script which would have to be run) ? The property is just there, with nothing to do to set it, and nothing's going to accidentally clear or change it. All you have to do is read it. Just make the script only read, not write. Voila! a fake constant. How more 'constant' can a user property be?? -- we're just moving data around in a stack, whether it's a script, a field, or a property, it doesn't matter what it's called if it works. You could even load it in on startup.. global arnoldConstant on openstack put the arnold of this stack into arnoldConstant pass openstack end openstack doesn't this make a 'constant global'? -- One has to trust one's own code somewhere, even if you had constants in Rev, they wouldn't be any different than a variable as far as Rev cares -- it's still places data in memory, and if memory gets screwed up, it's over anyway and we restart... On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 05:36 PM, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote: Please excuse the obvious, but can't a custom property, say in the main stack, act as a global constant? Set it in the IDE and it will persist through standalone creation forever... Nope, the custom property can be modified in the standalone. You just can't *save* the standalone stack. I wasn't sure about this, so this was my test script that I built into a standalone: But we can use custom properties or globals as constants, if we trust ourselves not to break their constant-ness by modifying them. But actual constants would be better because they are idiot-proof (referring to myself there) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where is the 2.1.1 list of bug fixes?
Some of the major stuff is covered in the built-in documentation. Select New In Version 2.1.1 or Changed in 2.1.1 sqb Hi all, I was wondering if anyone knows where the list of bug fixes for version 2.1.1 is. The release notes simply tell us to look at Bugzilla, but I honestly do Igor de Oliveira Couto ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: .mp4 Mac file type?
iTunes MP3 are: SJAMMPG3 SJAM -- SoundJam? MP4 appear to be just Quicktime Movies with the common filetype: TVODMooV Ha ha TVOD was a early song by DEVO !! (Backed with 'Warm Leatherette') and Moof was the sound of Clarus the dogcow.. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Some doubts 'bout Revolution
I don't think that's what Júlio meant. I think he wants his app to *look like* aqua when it runs in Windoze, not just in development. I suppose one could create 'aqua like' graphic objects such as invisible buttons, but the scrollbars in fields would be a problem, not to mention menus. There also might be some 'look and feel' copyright issues with Apple, depending on how far one went. Besides, it would probably be disconcerting for a Windoze user to see what he is not used to At 10:44 PM -0300 10/4/2003, Júlio César Ködel wrote: My question was: it is possible to make this look and feel of Classic MacOS in a Rev. application running in Windows (i.e. I make a application, that is distributed for Windows machines, and want to apply ClassicMacOS style on it, as it is possible in the development stage) Set the lookAndFeel property to Macintosh to get the Platinum appearance. (This is what the menu item in the development environment does.) -- Jeanne DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Off Topic! Auto-opening scocket
Check out IPNETMONITOR to keep an eye on things... Sustainable Softworks - great products designed by Peter Sichel, a foremost authority in Mac networking. http://www.sustworks.com/ Revolvers, I have a poltergeist or gremlin running my Mac (MOS 9.9.2). I have DSL with SBC and I always close the DSL when I go off-line. Since yesterday afternoon, something is opening a socket to my server. Every 15 minutes, a socket is opened to SBC. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Off Topic! Auto-opening scocket
Could be spyware, but most don't bother with Macs. Could it be the auto-time setting, or perhaps software update checking in? and of course Adobe and M$ products 'check in with headquarters' sometimes, but you said those were not running. Revolvers, I have a poltergeist or gremlin running my Mac (MOS 9.9.2). I have DSL with SBC and I always close the DSL when I go off-line. Since yesterday afternoon, something is opening a socket to my server. Every 15 minutes, a socket is opened to SBC. At first I thought it was errant script dribbled into the stack I was working on or into the home stack. Today, I closed all apps except Launcher and Stickies and the dohicky strip at the bottom. At precisely 12:45 the socket opened. Every 15 minutes it opened again! I cleared all the cookies. I just check the cookie jar and appears normal except for a site called atwola.com Anyone got an inkling what's happening? Ray G. Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Comunication COM1: and a CNC milling machine (timeout?)
Welcome to the world of machine interface. I've done this sort of thing a lot, in fact my first hypercard project was a software-hardware interface to a bank of 128 cassette machines in 1988. And I built the hardware end as well and it was still difficult to get them to talk to each other. It's a bitch. Even at slow rates, you'll find yourself ripping your hair out at the unresponsiveness of old serial interfaces. Many of them run without handshaking of any kind. Sometimes the connections fail and you have to restart both the target machine and the computer. You'll find yourself padding commands with delays just to get stuff to work. And if you don't know the right commands, you could be out of luck. One thing I might suggest is that you hook up the machine with it's regular controller, but tap the send line with a breakout box and attempt to view the commands that are sent with a terminal program (instead of Rev for now). If echo is set on the target device you should see both ends of the 'conversation'. This will give you a start. After that testing commands using a terminal program rather than rev will speed up your development. Sometimes people who write the imbedded software for controllers will put in a help menu - try sending an H to the controller. And if you have to develop this thing with your dad in the room, it will take forever. What you need is your own machine on your own bench to do this in your own time. I've found that working at a distance is almost impossible with this kind of project. Plan on spending a LOT of time on this one. The REV interface will be the fun and easy part. good luck sqb Hi Dar, Sarah and all, Developing this stack is a bit complicated, as I need to write it in my office, compile it and then test it in the company of my father. I got the manual of the machine today but have not found any useful hints on communication with a PC. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Chunk Expressions (see if my solutions is bad)
I don't see why 'seeing' ascii 11 is bad anyway, it helps troubleshooting. It's not meant to be displayed, just a way to substitute returns sqb Rev on OS X displays a character for ASCII 11 that looks like a curved arrow. ASCII 29 doesn't display any character in a field (I tried several fonts) and seems to work OK as an invisible delimiter. The definition is group separator according to the ASCII definition (http://www.asciitable.com/). Does anyone see a problem using ASCII 29? I can't imagine what it would be used for these days. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
reveal file/folder in Finder
Does anyone have the recipe for 'revealing' a folder in the Finder (OSX) from a Rev script? This used to be a snap in Apple Events. I can't find the syntax anywhere thanks stephen barncard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HyperCard and Revolution stacks
WHOA, dude, it's just his signature, not unlike many others on this list...such as yours!! sqb Dale, Perhaps you can find a justification for blatant commercial advertising on the list, but I don't see it. If you insist on continuing, at least mark the subject line with an obvious identifier (e.g. [ADV] ) so I can readily skip such entries. DJ http://Game.37.com/ Hi, Updated the SVP HyperCard and Revolution download pages. Much more to come in the future as we have time to convert and update. [snip] Dale Pond Sympathetic Vibratory Physics == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HyperCard and Revolution stacks
WHOA, dude, it's just his signature ...such as yours, not unlike many others on this list... sqb Dale, Perhaps you can find a justification for blatant commercial advertising on the list, but I don't see it. If you insist on continuing, at least mark the subject line with an obvious identifier (e.g. [ADV] ) so I can readily skip such entries. DJ http://Game.37.com/ Hi, Updated the SVP HyperCard and Revolution download pages. Much more to come in the future as we have time to convert and update. [snip] Dale Pond Sympathetic Vibratory Physics == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On line stores
I've been using cdstreet.com for years - they take about 25% cut, but are prompt and give phone support. They also let you imbed code to call their servers in your pages so it looks like it's all on your site. They sell anything that's legal not just CDs. sqb Anyone marketing through one of the on-line stores? If so, any recommendations or pitfalls? I'm particularly interested in the education market, K-12 and college. Peace, John Flowing Thought Educational Solutions 503-508-3398 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch command alternatives
The 'www.' prefix won't always work to detect a web address... I NEVER use www. anymore on noting my web sites makes the URL too long... if (char 1 to 4 of tURL is www.) then put http://; before tURL ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LICENSE 2.0 - help!
I was under the impression that my license for 2.0 would also cover through bug fixes... Downloaded 2.0.3 for OSX... But with 2.0.3 the registration window does not accept the same code that made 2.0 work for me. It's also not as easy to enter -- one used to be able to paste an entire block of registration info between the *** . There's no way to get to the 'Help' menu either to try to register that way, even though the README file says to do so... -- _ CSN FAMILY OF WEBSITES: http://crosbystillsnash.com http://forum.crosbystillsnash.com http://forum.crosbystillsnash.com http://crosbycpr.com http://crosbynash.com http://grahamnash.com http://davidcrosby.com http://davidcrosby.net Stephen Barncard WEb duDe Record Producer and Mixer 1611 BRYDEN LANE Santa Rosa CA. 95404 USA Phone: 707 542 6717Cell: 707 217 3039 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barncard site http://www.barncard.com _ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LICENSE 2.0 - help!
I was under the impression that my license for 2.0 would also cover through bug fixes... Downloaded 2.0.3 for OSX... But with 2.0.3 the registration window does not accept the same code that made 2.0 work for me. It's also not as easy to enter -- one used to be able to paste an entire block of registration info between the *** . There's no way to get to the 'Help' menu either to try to register that way, even though the README file says to do so... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the IDE does not appear on double click of project
When I double click a project file in the finder to launch Rev, the edit environment does not appear. No menus, etc. Mac OS X, Rev 2 1. what is the call to start up the edit environment from a script? 2. is there a setting to 'start edit environment on application open' ? This was not the way Rev functioned earlier. Something changed...or something *I* changed!! thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port
All you want to know about MAC serial ports: http://francis.courtois.free.fr/jc1/serial/main.html Hi Dar, I'd like to try making one of these loop-back circuits. I'm pretty neat with a soldering iron, but I'm not sure how to proceed. I guess I just need the join the Tx pins to the Rx pins but which pins are they? How did you do it? Cheers, Sarah On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 12:29 pm, Dar Scott wrote: It is also possible to make a loop-back circuit so that you can read what you write. You might even still be able to buy one. If you have any old Mac serial cables, you can make one from that. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port
Rather than destroy a cable or mess with those horrible mini-dins, I would use a mini-din to DB-9 adaptor (still available), then wire a DB-9 Female (or male, i forgot). Those adaptors were originally made for the 128k mac, but for some reason are still around. My first Hypercard project was a control system for up to 156 cassette decks run by a little Mac SE (later a IIci) back in 1989 at AM Studios. The only way to do that was to use the serial port at the mac end and a CY232 chip from Cybernetics at the hardware end. I got serial XCMDs off of Genie and other BBs, and eventually used Hyperbasic and Compilit to speed things up... Another mac in the room drove a printer system to make the cassette labels -- 6 Epson impact printers with buffers and switching. What a trip that was. It took a lot of delays and trickery to get those damn ports to work right. I also designed all the analog and digital hardware and scanning concept. http://barncard.com/amstudios/htdoc/Pages/TC.html I don't know why I asked which one. On DB9 and DB25, if you don't need handshaking, just connect pin 2 to pin 3. If you need handshaking on DB9, connect 7 to 8, and pin 4 to 6 and 1. If you need handshaking on DB25, uh, I forgot--I can look it up. On the Mac DIN, you get an old mac serial cable and cut it. Strip the wires. Find those that go to certain pins and then solder or connect together like this: Pin 3 to 5 Pin 6 to 8 This takes two because the signal is on two wires and not one. If you need handshaking, try 1 to 2. I have not done that. If you blow something up, uh, somehow it is not my fault. There are lots of web pages that have info on this; double check with those. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port
All you want to know about MAC serial ports: http://francis.courtois.free.fr/jc1/serial/main.html Hi Dar, I'd like to try making one of these loop-back circuits. I'm pretty neat with a soldering iron, but I'm not sure how to proceed. I guess I just need the join the Tx pins to the Rx pins but which pins are they? How did you do it? Cheers, Sarah On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 12:29 pm, Dar Scott wrote: It is also possible to make a loop-back circuit so that you can read what you write. You might even still be able to buy one. If you have any old Mac serial cables, you can make one from that. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
In the old Hypercard, you could put FONT resources in the resource fork of the stack and they would be recognized by HC. It was a wonderful solution. We were told it wasn't 'kosher' to do that, but it worked great!!! As the basic concept of fonts is not really platform specific, it seems like there should be some way to do this in Rev. Perhaps even a 'special set' of fonts that could be included or sold separately. THE question! Very interesting... I have heard of embedded fonts. Not just acrobat and web, but also applications and documents on several operating systems. I'd like to learn more of this. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
Printing fonts were selected by the user in my apps. I'm talking about display, labels, etc. I didn't use HC printing anyway, I used Printreport Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote: In the old Hypercard, you could put FONT resources in the resource fork of the stack and they would be recognized by HC. It was a wonderful solution. We were told it wasn't 'kosher' to do that, but it worked great!!! ...until you printed, then (with System 7 and later) it crashed the machine. -- Richard Gaskin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image resize 2
Clarisworks/Appleworks allows one to set the dpi of the painting. Select FormatResolution Depth the default is 72 dpi An amendment to my last posting. Mark Talluto had asked if my image was 72 dpi, because if so, the image would be sized larger that it may have been intended when imported in to Rev. Sorry, I don't know what the dpi of my image is. I'm simply drawing it in the paint program of an application called Claris Works and copy-pasting it into Revolution. But again, the size of the image is not being effected, but rather the rect of the image. Thanks! Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dynamic Web Page (Not really a RR question)
Dynamic is the correct term to describe what you want. There are many ways to do this and it's all do-able , just write or rip the code. The best way is to use a database file, either text file, or better yet, SQL. For persistence between sessions, you'd need to factor in some kind of cookie code or set up a password system to access the database. Check out online script collections for free PHP or PERL scripts that will do this, google for 'script archives'. You will need a full-service web server account, which today are cheap and fast. Dreamhost is a really good webhost among hundreds of providers that can give you a UNIX domained account with PERL, PHP, PYTHON and MYSQL. $10/month will give you the above and 300 mb of space, $20/month will give you more space and shell access. http://dreamhost.com I currently run 10 sites there. sqb Is there a way to have a web page either: (1) save it's self, so it's user editable fields can be read later?; or (2) have the web page read a text file and populate it's fields. Then save the user editable fields back to the text file? If either of these options is possible, how would you go about doing it? Or, is there another way to accomplish this task? Background: my application creates a questioner. That questioner (or text file) is posted to a web site. A user then answers the questions by typing in the form fields. (Note that this could be a work in progress. Meaning that the user could put in some text, then come back the next day and continue editing the fields.) When the user is done, the application would then query the web page (or text file) and compile a report. Any thoughts? Thanks! -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Saving changes
Because Mac OS (v 7 - 9) is not OS X !!! It's worth noting that even though Mac OS allows an app to write for itself, Apple recommends storing user data outside of the app in a user folder, so the following discussion would also benefit SC users looking to modernize their apps: If OS X is based on UNIX and UNIX can't save to a running app then how is Apple still supporting this? Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proposal - the use-revolution list
The forum software that is used for the sites you mentioned is made by Infopop and comes in various flavors, the most affordable and widespread is the Ultimate Bulletin Board or UBB Classic. It works really well and can even optionally be hooked up to a MySQL database for efficiency. I've installed and moderated one of these, and it almost runs itself. Nice features such as multiple forums, email address masking, email verification, profiles, IP logging, searching etc. And it looks great. http://www.infopop.com/ A forum could be organized in chapters (the right word?) ... And within each chaptor and its sub issues the users will start and add to threads. Examples http://forums.macosxhints.com/ http://www.macfixitforums.com/ Carsten Levin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filtering Strange characters in text
OOPS, I should note in the old HC code that I had been using an XCMD called Replace2, which I patched using a handler that called Rev's internal Replace command instead of the old XCMD - a cheesy way to get my old code to work instead of changing all the instances (but I got up and running a lot quicker). So my example should look like: put Replace(theBlock,numToChar(230), ) into theBlock OR put Replace(theBlock,Ê, ) into theBlock something else is at work here as I copied the Ê from my browser, pasted it into the Replace code. Then when I copied it back from the Rev script editor into the mailer for my example - it looked ok when I sent it, then it came back as ñ. Perhaps I should filter for that char! here's my usage: put Replace(ñ, ,theBlock) into theBlock this doesn't work either... put Replace(numToChar(230), ,theBlock) into theBlock I guess I'll try Regex next. But this should work! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filtering Strange characters in text
No, just plain text. Thanks! I solved the problem by filtering all chars with a value higher than ascii 127... sqb Did you by any chance set the useUnicode to true? Because if you did, then the numToChar(230) will be æ (i.e. ligature ae), which might explain why Ê does not get replaced... But then again, it's probably not this easy... :) T. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imageready
Gee, I didn't find ImageReady that hard to use...it works like an animation stand with planes... Build up the elements of animation with Layers then 'snapshot' each frame in the animation window. Make each frame look like you want with the layers, then move to the next frame - the last one shows the last state of what layers are switched on! Dissolves can be made by changing the transparency of intermediate frames. By switching the frames on in sequence, the animation is created. You can even import short Quicktime movies, I think. By the way, you can't select 'all the frames', you select 'all the layers', if that's what you want, but final transparency specs are determined in the compression palette. Your background (black?) should be your first layer. There seems to be deep confusion between layers and frames, and it appears that a layer can 'have' several frames, while a frame can 'have' several layers! Just selecting all the frames to make black the transparent color (for example) turns out to be impossible or massively counterintuitive... -- --- Stephen Barncard record production and surround mixing Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB http://www.barncard.com/ --- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Universal GUI
here's a start. http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html As far as I'm concerned, Tog is GOD when it comes to UI... Bruce Tognazzini, that is...the former head of the Apple HUI team...he turned it into a science.. For the untutored... can you define/give some definition/list some aspects of the UI that are schmutz in the interests of newbies not following suit! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need some help
I would suggest, gentlemen, that unless one has a lot of time on one's hands and needs the challenge, that using RunRev to make content management software for one site would be not a very good use of that time when there are numerous packages written in Perl or PHP (such as pMachine) that already do that. sqb Hi James, I have a book coming out, on July 30, on the military antiwar-movement which emerged during the Vietnam War. I am currently thinking about a website to accompany the book. The site will include approximately 500 images and I would like to make it searchable by content. At the moment I am playing with three possibilities: 1. to build a filemaker database and link to it with a web portal. 2. to build it with revolution and deploy the stack online and build a front page that would do the same thing. The latter appeals to me because it would enhance my programming skills 3. To use html. Please advise me on what I should do well, you might not be surprised that most, if not all users of this list will recommend option 2 ;-) Klaus Major ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: open MS Word files
The 'gibberish' of course is the MS Word formatting. M$ holds the formats it creates dearly to its wallet and changes them every couple of years to keep us in line to buy new versions of bloated software. The basic word format however has stayed the same from W97 thru the current version, including Mac, according to MS. I was going to suggest using Applescripts to batch-convert all the files to .txt , but I see you're on a PC. Sorry. I suppose it's possible to detect the version and hack out the text. sqb sqb I want to open MS Word files and save the text for use in a Rev app. If I open a MS Word doc I have the gibberish chars to deal with. Is there any way to grab the text from a MS Word file without the gibberish? Is there a way (with a PC) to have MS Word open a doc and then save it as a text file but have it all done in the background...not require the user to do this but have it done with a Rev app? The text formatting is not crucial as these files will be used in an app for the blind and read with the speech capability. tia sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is beep zero-based?
Isn't there something like wait until the sound is done in Transcript? On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 12:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross-platform note: Windows and OS X do not execute the beep command if it's issued while a beep is playing. This means that if you specify a numberOfTimes on a Windows or OS X system, the user might hear fewer beeps because not all of them are sent to the speaker. To ensure that the user ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rotate and save JPEG images without compressing again
Don't forget Lemke's 'Graphic Converter' which claims to do 'lossless rotation' and has superb batch processing capabilities, and can convert even the most obscure graphic format. $35 shareware, MacOS and OSX. highly recommended by me. http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/index.htm On 4/6/03 8:31 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a way to import a jpeg image and rotate that image save the file without re-compression of the data, and also maintaining the original file size? Most of the photo manipulation tools we have on the mac (OSX): Photoshop, iView, ImageReady can all do this. Unfortunately these tools each have their draw backs for a production schedule wherein one is trying to dispatch processing of anywhere between 15 and 70 incoming hi-res digital photos from a camera in 10-15 minutes time. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: setting or HACKING creator codes in OS X
there's the donationware Filetype for OS X - nicely done http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/ also my old stand-by A Better Finder Creators and Types' - cheap http://www.publicspace.net/ABetterFinderCreatorsAndTypes/ both of these will do batch creator and types changes to files in osX Is there a free or cheap way to change the creator and/or type codes in OS X ? -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rivertext.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Active X support
Huh? My post was about inclusion, not taking out stuff. Please don't quote my words out of context for your own imagined conclusions. sqb Active X -- Great for windoze folks, useless for Mac and Unix... Wouldn't this be against the 'cross platform concept of Rev? Exactly ... I think thera are a lot of Windoze only to do everything but nothing... tools, imho we dont need another one... regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter H So if you can't have it on the Mac, you don't want it to be possible on the PC as well? Then how about killing AppleScript support on the Mac? Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Develloping a registrationsystem
1. Privacy groups were in an uproar when Intel announces such a plan. (I agree with them - I don't like the idea) 2. Intel, contrary to common talk, is not the only manufacturer of micros. 3. Software piracy, like music piracy, is not the concern of hardware people. 4. The best copy protection is a USB dongle, like the iLok used with Pro-Tools. Speculation: why don't other computer manufacturers (or Intel) include a call to uniquely identify a computer? Is it perhaps because they DON'T WANT to discourage small scale software piracy? Why hasn't the software industry pressed manufacturers for this simple solution instead of everyone trying to devise her/his uncrackable proprietary license scheme? -- Rob Cozens ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: Active X support
There are rewards in 'not following the herd' which we mac users have enjoyedone of which is we get the new technologies first... In this Darwinian evolution it is astonishing that there are still mac survivors they must have a special gene ;) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack and Substacks and user properties
I got it. The bummer is that user properties have much less usefulness for me in a standalone. I might as well just continue to use variables for transitory data and user properties as constants -- imbedded lists that don't change. What else are they good for? I guess they're easier to find, being attached to an object they relate to. Should I use properties in a substack, or would that get sucked in during standalone creation? sqb Only Macs have resource forks so files can automatically save to themselves, i.e., the data, including any changes/updates, becomes part of the resource fork of the stack (Hypercard) or project (SuperCard). RR uses the MetaCard engine which is cross-platform. Since PC's under Windows, Linux, Unix, etc., do _not_ have resource forks, their files cannot save to themselves. Therefore, in order to remain consistant across all platforms, RR stacks do not save to themselves on Macs either. Does that help? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack and Substacks and user properties
Thanks, Richard, a very useful and informative post. This list rocks with GREAT people and experience. sqb imbedded lists that don't change. What else are they good for? General data storage. Keep in mind that custom prps can be altered at runtime even in a standalne, just not saved. If you need them persistent Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Active X support
The XCMD capability is there for backward compatibility - OS X doesn't work with the old XCMDs, only OS9. Are you sure that what you want from the PC-ONLY Active-X can't be done in native Transcript and custom made controls? I once was quite attached to what I could do (had to do) with XCMDs in Hypercard as you are with 'Active-X' until I found Rev. So far I haven't needed any externals. The more we use 'pure transcript' for applications, the better off we'll be -- as developers, users and sharers of techniques...in a cross-platform way.. sqb Edwin Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are there any plans to add ActiveX support to metaCard/RunRev? It seems like a no brainer since it would improve compatibility with legacy ToolBook apps, and since there is already support for the Mac-only XCMD standard. Adding ActiveX support would open up access to thousands of extremely useful ActiveX controls that have been developed for all sorts of purposes. but only for those on Windoze PCs! I decided to get RunRev because I wanted somethign that I could use to teach my daughter progamming concepts - your daughter should learn Transcript! Active-X won't teach her anything! I have not idea how to *really* program though, so creating my own Rev externals is pretty much out of the question, even though a lot of the ActiveX things I am interested have source code and could probably be adapted to RunRevs externals architecture, I ddon't have the skill to do that myself..being able to access ActiveX would allow me to do a whole bunch of neat stuff that I can't do on my own. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Active X support
Active X -- Great for windoze folks, useless for Mac and Unix... Wouldn't this be against the 'cross platform concept of Rev? And isn't there some kind of dll or xcmd support for PCs in Rev already? Chipp, Tuviah, Kevin, It is simply impossible to extend the engine with all functions... When having Active-X support, we have access to so much more... COM, DLL's VB API's a lot of Java-applets etc... The biggest problem (and I really loovee working with RR) is using external commands methods... We can't take advantage of all the work those very clever C++ or Java developers did, with Active-X support we can. No, I don't agree that it's not worth the coding, it will give us scanning-capabilities, image-rendering capabilities, custom encription, inter-application-communication, OCR, all usable from within RR projects... WE NEED THIS!!! Now I have to do those things in Visual Basic, compile them as executables, (collect a thousand VB DLLs etc) and run these small exe files through the commandline. Exchange of info between these programs and RR go via text-files and it works, but it is so tricky to do this... Please gang, give us the Active X support, it would solve a whole lot of trouble... Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Books on RunRev
Why not? They do it! Some of Apple's best products have been cross-platform! Laserwriters, Quicktime, Filemaker Pro, Firewire, iPod, soon iTunes sqb Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: I dont think Apple will evangelize a product which is focussed in *crossplatform* developing... regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 21:18 Europe/Vienna, Richard Gaskin wrote: If Apple (or any major OS vendor) wants to evangelize Rev, I think it would be in their mutual interest to do so. But until then, comparisons of marketing any non-OS-vendor product to one built by an OS vendor will carry implications that don't apply fairly. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
