Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store
Jacqueline, So then, is the Documents folder you're saving to the same folder that Apple expects? In other words can you register that folder as a shared folder and see the contents in iTunes? Thanks Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:43 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/17/10 4:46 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I haven't tried in the latest release but before that there was no way for iOS to save out a stack or a preferences file that I know of. Basic file read/write and file URL access works now. I'm saving a text-based prefs file to the Documents folder in the app sandbox. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store
Well this would be great news for a few projects of mine. In xCode you have to register in the applications pList file for Document Sharing in order to 'turn on' this feature. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/18/10 9:14 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Jacqueline, So then, is the Documents folder you're saving to the same folder that Apple expects? In other words can you register that folder as a shared folder and see the contents in iTunes? I think so, but I've only tested in the simulator so far. But the docs say the Documents folder is compatible with iTunes expectations, and that it's seen and backed up by iTunes. There's no indication you need to do anything in particular to get that behavior, it just happens. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store
Ron, I haven't used LC for the APPLE desktop store yet but I am developing a few applications for the APP iOS store. In the APP iOS store application you can not spit out stacks as in 1. and although you could auto check for upgrades 3. you could not download them because Apple won't allow it except through the APP iOS store upgrade mechanism. I do list my homepage in my app and on the APP iOS store in iTunes. I would assume that for the APPLE desktop store there will be some restrictions but not as tight as the APP iOS store. I haven't looked into it yet but I would think that the auto upgrade 3. will not be possible since by using the APPLE store your are agreeing to use their auto upgrade features. Not sure about the prefs or saving a stack out or the home page listing for an APPLE desktop store application. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 PM, ron barber wrote: As a follow up to my earlier question _can_ we use LiveCode desktop to make desktop apps to be sold through the Apple store (Kevin's answer was a qualified 'yes') Is anyone _actually_ moving forward with an app for the Apple store? I have an app that I want to make available in the store but I'm worried that current set up may not meet Apple guidelines. If so could you comment on how you eliminated or modified the way you: 1. Save prefs: currently I spit out another stack from a customprop stored in the startupstack. 2. Listing your homepage in the About or Help menus or anywhere else. In other words, Are you providing a way for users to contact you in a way that Apple likes? 3. Auto checking upgrade options: currently my app checks a file on homepage on startup and informs users if there is a newer version. Any other parts of your application that you have modified to conform to Apple's (current) guidelines? Thanks for your suggestions... Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store
Ron, I haven't tried in the latest release but before that there was no way for iOS to save out a stack or a preferences file that I know of. In xCode you have a few choices. Either save to the settings pane via API provided by apple or you could save a pList to 'your sandbox' documents folder and read that in. I think -- not sure -- that LC is allowing an internal -- in your bundle -- documents folder that you can write to. I just don't know if this is the same folder that iOS lets you write to. The other choice you have is to write to an external server and read that in on launch. The problem with that approach is that the app would have to be connected to the internet when launched. FWIW, If it is the exact same folder THEN it will be possible to register with iOS and iTunes a shared folder that will be available via iTunes for manually putting and getting files from/into your app. I am working on a few different apps now and will have more info over the next week or so. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:34 AM, ron barber wrote: Tom, Thanks for the reply and specifics. I recognize that Apple's policy is a work in progress and the app store will probably be somewhat different from the iOS store but I am looking for some guidelines to keep from making obvious mistakes. So what do you do for saving prefs for your iOS app? It sounds like the Apple upgrade mechanism is compatible with a LC app but do we need to do anything to link to it? Thanks Ron On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Ron, I haven't used LC for the APPLE desktop store yet but I am developing a few applications for the APP iOS store. In the APP iOS store application you can not spit out stacks as in 1. and although you could auto check for upgrades 3. you could not download them because Apple won't allow it except through the APP iOS store upgrade mechanism. I do list my homepage in my app and on the APP iOS store in iTunes. I would assume that for the APPLE desktop store there will be some restrictions but not as tight as the APP iOS store. I haven't looked into it yet but I would think that the auto upgrade 3. will not be possible since by using the APPLE store your are agreeing to use their auto upgrade features. Not sure about the prefs or saving a stack out or the home page listing for an APPLE desktop store application. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 PM, ron barber wrote: As a follow up to my earlier question _can_ we use LiveCode desktop to make desktop apps to be sold through the Apple store (Kevin's answer was a qualified 'yes') Is anyone _actually_ moving forward with an app for the Apple store? I have an app that I want to make available in the store but I'm worried that current set up may not meet Apple guidelines. If so could you comment on how you eliminated or modified the way you: 1. Save prefs: currently I spit out another stack from a customprop stored in the startupstack. 2. Listing your homepage in the About or Help menus or anywhere else. In other words, Are you providing a way for users to contact you in a way that Apple likes? 3. Auto checking upgrade options: currently my app checks a file on homepage on startup and informs users if there is a newer version. Any other parts of your application that you have modified to conform to Apple's (current) guidelines? Thanks for your suggestions... Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode applications accepted in iOS App Store
Kevin, FYI, I'm surprised the app was accepted because it has the text IPHONE TEST APP on the background and Apple's submission guidelines specifically state that no 'test apps should be submitted. It is a minor thing for sure and the app itself seems ready for prime time but I would be prepared that the next time an Apple tester reviews it (updates etc.) that they may reject the app with that background. Regards, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 27/10/2010 18:14, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: It's a shame that it's not iPad too, because the multitouch works well. I got 41 sheep on my iPhone and 58 on my iPad. There are lots of things we could add to this game. Really though the purpose of the application wasn't to use and support every last feature or produce a best seller, it was to get the binaries and associated data into the right format so that they would pass the submission process. Which they now have. We have another app that's a bit more sophisticated that should be going live any time now too. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Scott, Congratulations on making to the new and noteworthy pane on the AppStore!!! Just a few reviews and there you are. I can not imagine any other way to get that kind of exposure that quickly. And to think this could happen for desktop apps still seems a good thing to me. It levels the playing field for some. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: For myself, I'm not sure enough details are available to really know whether this is a good thing or not. I would agree that first impression seems kind of questionable. Apple controlling everything seems undesirable. On the other hand, my little iPad game is currently being featured under the New and Noteworthy section of the Games section in the App Store. I'm torn: do I cheer Apple on or throw tomatoes at them? :-) (Thanks again to everyone for their support -- very much appreciated.) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
This is very interesting and seems to be a huge opportunity for RR/LC developers. It appears that regular executables will work on the Apple Mac Store. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: check out: http://www.apple.com/mac/app-store/ Given how awful software is in the channel here in the USA, I think this is a good thing for Mac developers. It will be interesting to see what sort of restrictions or requirements there will be. A 30% margin to retail is about right, provided there are no other charges. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Invitation to some groovy LiveCode based co-learning!
I'm in! Let me know when David, Thanks Tom Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, David Bovill wrote: te that is based on the LiveCode object model we are all familiar with - stacks, cards, grou ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
Congratulations Scott, Excellent news. I am just about to purchase your app in support of your many contributions to this list. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hello List: Just sharing a little excitement on the release of my first mobile app: PLEXXR -- a stylish puzzle game for Apple's iPad. As mentioned previously, this app was about 7 months in the making, and I got some helpful feedback from folks here on the list -- thanks guys! Site with trailer (no gameplay vid yet but it's coming): http://www.plexxr.com App Store link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/plexxr/id397208452?mt=8 For folks that don't have an iPad, there's also a desktop version available on the PLEXXR site. Apologies for the shameless plug -- just wanted to share! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project
Congratulations Jeff et. al. It's so nice to see project completions. What a relief they are and such a good feeling when they go well. But then for us anyway it starts all over again with the next project. Gotta love it, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and sent it off to Nintendo... http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey That is all. And thanks for anyone who put up with any short/blunt comments I've made here while working 16-hour days, 7 days a week for the past 3-4 months. ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The currently playing track revMobile
Terry, Although it is possible to 'get' the current track info from obj-c but I very much doubt that LiveCode will have that same level of access. We need an external pass through for revMobile that will let us do calls to these libraries. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Ian Wood wrote: Neat idea. After a quick bit of searching, this was added to the SDK with OS3 - so it's possible, but I've no idea if it's possible with Rev. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/741847/iphone-sdk-accessing-current-song-information-through-an-app Ian On 23 Sep 2010, at 19:30, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I want to write an iOS app that allows me to edit the tags of the tracks on my iPod Touch. Often when I listen to music on my iPod, I want to edit the data of the currently playing track. For example, I want to set the genre, or at least add some comments to it. And when I connect the iPod to my iMac, I want that data to sync back to iTunes automatically. I don't know of any app that has similar functionality, so I doubt whether the SDK allows it. But it sure would be great if it did. As far as I know, the only information that is synced back from my iPod to iTunes is: star ratings and play counts. But I would love to do more. If this is simply impossible, could there be some kind of workaround? For example: the app records the title artist of the currently playing track to a text file on the iPod, along with the data I would like to add/modify. When connected to the Mac, an AppleScript could process that text file to make the changes to the corresponding track(s) in iTunes. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Andy, You might want to check out scripters scrapebook. Although I don't think it has been updated in a few years, it might give you some direction. The online aspect / shared repository is very interesting to me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:12 AM, AndyP wrote: Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Scripter's Scrapebook link: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Andy, You might want to check out scripters scrapebook. Although I don't think it has been updated in a few years, it might give you some direction. The online aspect / shared repository is very interesting to me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:12 AM, AndyP wrote: Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
H HAAA I just spit out my coffee right onto my keyboard Damn... On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:43:12 AM, you wrote: ??? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dodo -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
tRev
Has anyone gotten tRev to work with LiveCode? I put it at the same level as the app but no luck. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev
I am confused. I went to tRev site and re-downloaded and got another app instead but which looks like tRev. Loaded and it works. Then had to renew license (just did - I love tRev). But now it downloads older version of tRev which states it is not most recent version and when clicked on takes to same old previous version. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:04 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yes, Jerry has had to update it a couple of times due to the new packaging and names. He finally got it to work with any bundle name - it's what's inside that counts.He was on it from the first day. On 21 September 2010 18:55, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten tRev to work with LiveCode? I put it at the same level as the app but no luck. Found the same problem. But then re-downloaded tRev and it worked. Perhaps a newer version now? -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Can't access Preferences at all in LiveCode let alone Files. And there is no My LiveCode folder inside the documents folder here. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Alex, You can go to Preferences - Files and set your extensions folder there. Or you can use the default one which is My LiveCode inside the documents folder. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Just downloaded the shiny new LiveCode onto my Mac Snow Leopard machine. My apps use libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev. In runRev 4.5 I keep them at the same level as the Revolution app and the Externals and Resources folders. I have tried placing them at the same level of these folders inside LiveCode.app, but no joy. What should I do? -- Alex Adams hawkVision ‹ yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The power of despeckle-median filters: Image examples
Wilhelm, Very interesting results. You say this was done via revTalk? Very nice. I like the lack of visual clutter that the preprocessing with Despeckle offers. Tom Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: For those few on the list that are interested in image processing I have put together a web page demonstrating the effects of pre-processing images with despeckle-median filters before applying convolve-matrix filters: http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/despeckle filters.htm Using two images - St. Remy: Van Gogh's Grove and Steve Jobs, the iPhone, and Medwedew- I compare the application of three convolve-matrix filters to the pre-processed and un-preprocessed images. Seems that such combinations of filters can bring out details not to be seen in the original image - see the reflections on the iPhone surface - and also character traits of persons otherwise not immediately detectable. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and Microsoft COM methods
Glen, The as VBScript will work very well with COM methods. If you find my LibITS stack on Rev that is how I made the Windows side. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Glen, Sorry for the delay. I am not a windows guy but I believe that you can use the same scripts from inside Rev with: do bla bla bla as vbscript check out: http://docs.runrev.com/Command/do (specially the part about alternateLanguages) Cheers andre On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Glen Bojsza gboj...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am looking for guidance on using Rev to work with an application through Microsoft COM methods. Currently, I have found the methods currently being used with VB Script and I believe that there must be a way to do the same thing via Rev. Any help or examples is appreciated. thanks, Glen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [RevServer tips] Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows
Bob, It's amazing how your scenario turned on the light bulb in my brain about this. Thanks... And bobs-yer-uncle I got it... Tom On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Okay, so let's say I'm a script kiddie with a bug up my butt about your web server. I decide I am going to take it down. Now I'm smart enough to know that servers are multi-threaded, meaning they can host lots of connections and process threads to manage simultaneous connections. But what I am banking on is that your server does not have any limits on how long a process can stay open. So what I do is craft an application that continuously opens processes that will take forever. All the well behaved processes from other users will eventually finish, leaving one more process thread for my malicious app to gobble up. Eventually my malicious app gobbles up ALL the available processes, and bobs-yer-uncle I have your server by the short hairs. Oh but wait! Turns out you were not as dumb as moi hoped you were, and you set up policies on your web server that automatically terminated processes lasting longer than 30 seconds. Well I might be able to bog down your server, but I can't kill it. Oh but wait! You turned out to be MUCH smarter than I thought, and after my server terminates x number of processes from a particular address, you lock me out of your server! Okay, well I craft my program now to create HUGE processes, as big as I can get them. Oh but wait again! Your server has limits on how big a process can be! Dang! Yer a genius and I am screwed! Bob On Aug 4, 2010, at 9:59 AM, wayne durden wrote: Thanks Andre, and I am working through your article now as well. I get that it is per process but the part that isn't still clear to me is that the OS can be doing my intensive process for 30 seconds before closing it and also attending to another user simultaneously or not. I am under the impression there is still some resource slicing going on, I just don't have a concrete understanding... This is all very interesting to me because I am interested in moving a desktop app that processes datafiles up to 100,000 lines which can mean for each line comparing against the remainder (in reality sorts cust this down a great deal), but this can run for minutes on a desktop app and I have got to cut it down into asynchronous processing as per your article... Thanks! Wayne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Very OT] Happy and need to share it!
Congratulations Jeff, Kids are the wonder of the world and so inspiring. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jeff Massung wrote: http://massj.tumblr.com/ Sorry for the spam (sorta), but I just have to share a very happy moment for me. Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer
Walt, The iOS version of Safari already supports multitouch and has for a while now. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Sumner, Walt wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed and I missed it, but it looks like Firefox 4 (or 3.7, or earlier) hopes to deliver HTML5 and multitouch, as well as the local data storage. Do we know if On-Rev is on track to host multitouch browser interfaces? If so, I would suddenly have a compelling reason to get facile with On-Rev and HTML5. I would guess that the iOS version of Safari will eventually support multitouch? This video purports to show a Firefox browser window supporting multitouch painting: http://www.labnol.org/internet/firefox-logo-drawn-using-firefox/10579/ Walton Sumner ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)
I agree with both Andre and Richards responses to these issues brought up in this excellent thread. One of the things Peter brought up was about the idea of having to buy a 3d party add on to get expected functionality out of the Rev IDE. Andre and Richards responses were right on/spot on about this. But, Peter mentioned the editor as one of these and I agree with him that the internal editor is too flaky (thanks Andre) and as a result of too many crashes related to the built-in editor have had to buy tRev/switch to tRev in order to get some of my latest projects out the door. I would rather have 'chosen' to use tRev because of its great features (of which it has many, many great features), than having 'had' to use it because the internal editor just doesn't work well enough for professional development. I think Peter's inclusion of the Editor points to a real problem and to the impressions that he points out. I think this impression is accurate only in the case of the built-in editor which, I hope, will be fixed in the next release. The other Rev-Select Add-ons fall into the 'really great enhancements to RunRev' category and do not necessarily fall into the 'need to make up for something that should work but doesn't ' in RunRev category. I think the more important thing to learn here is what some of the current impressions of RR are and why. How RR is perceived (especially by new comers to the world of RR) should help point us/RR to the areas that need the most improvement. Great thread, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: never ending scroll?
Nicolas, Most of the iPhone's scroll-wheels are linked to tables and the tables are lazily loaded (via reusable cells) at runtime. Most of the scroll-wheels I have seen stop at the top or bottom of the content that it is trying to scroll. Where or what are you referring to? (To better understand the action you are looking for.) In a different project I have an iPhone scrolling window and not a table that still lazily loads it's views from a reusable view in the same way as the cells are reused in a table with scroll-wheel. So, The scrolling windows in my case can wrap around to the beginning if the view or cell is lazily loaded when needed. Maybe there is a way to lazily load content or fields IN groups in RR to emulate that. I would look at a group that has a scroll-wheel and see if items can be deleted from one side (hidden from view) and loaded on the other side (hidden from view) based on the scroll position. Let us know, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 26, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Hello, I'm trying to simulate the iphone's scroll-wheel, and am wondering how to recreate its never-endingness effect (i.e., the vertical list of items returns to its first item when its last item is reached). All I could think of so far is to use a scrollable field, but whose scroll action is handled by button script rather than directly through the field's scrollbar. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I fell asleep reading my iPad the other night and woke up laying on half of it and I can definitely say it was not lumpy. It was flat and hard, and uncomfortable but not lumpy. This was probably due to the anti-lumpy app I had installed. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On May 27, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Or, maybe, the 2 Steves are in love; mind you, sharing a bed with an iPhone and an iPad could be a bit lumpy . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: never ending scroll?
Nicolas, The clock application uses a specially made DatePicker object loosely based on a PickerView. xCode provides the DatePicker for use in projects and it has it's own settings for either Date Time, Time, Date, and Timer which then populates the cells of the DatePicker. If I were to build something like the DatePicker in xCode (a custom picker) I would use the PickerView and provide it a dataSource with say 1 to 100 and then set it up so that the cells were both reusable and lazily loaded. That way when the Picker View gets to 96 (5 rows are displayed in a Date Picker) it is displaying 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, and when I scroll to 97 it will populate the last cell with 1 which used to be 100 and so on. Lazy loading only loads enough cells in this case to have them loaded just prior to viewing them on screen. The same would hold true going in the reverse. I think this would be possible but difficult with a text field using it's own scrollbar. Maybe it is more doable with a data Grid? I haven't played heavily with a DG yet. Maybe someone can chime in on this. For me, I still think a group is the way to go though and using cells made up of text fields. Load the data in the cells when needed and have 15 cells where only 5 are visible and keep adding a cell to the bottom of the list or top depending on which direction you are going in. Cheers, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 27, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Tom, The scroll-wheel I've in mind is in the Add alarm section of the iPhone's Clock. Lazily loaded? I guess I'm off to search that. In the meantime, I'd still welcome example scripts of something that'd do an endless scroll of text in a text field, rather than a group, a table, a window, etc. Cheers. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
Wait a minute, Who died? Grandpa has been dead for four years now and we sold his house soon after. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 19, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Phil Jimmieson wrote: On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. Judy And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay that way . . . . Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's been dead for 25 years... On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage sound channels while . . . . ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
Very nice use of export snapshot with the Core Image Transitions, Bernd. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 18, 2010, at 6:18 AM, BNig wrote: Robert Mann wrote: I saw a stack recently in revOnline that shows a nice page effect example, I think it is built with core graphics. CHeck it out. The effects were taken from the Core Image Sampler.rev stack in the Resources-Examples folder that ships with Rev (Mac version). They were just adapted for page transition using snapshots since core image effects work, well, on images. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-3d-flip-effect-tp2220725p2221049.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?
Matthias, I keep a copy of each of two versions of xcode on my machine but the Developer folder is blessed so I have to keep one of the copies on a separate hard drive and delete the other when working with them. I tried just renaming them and keeping both at the same time but since the root path is so inherent in most of the functionality of the dev tools I ran into trouble. I installed the full product then copied it to an external hard drive. I then installed the other version and copied that to the external drive as well renamed so I would know which was which. Then when I need to dev in one I copy that one over named correctly and start using it. Not the best solution but it worked for me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi all, i want to play around a little bit with QuickConnectiPhone (a javascript framework). But for that i need Dashcode 2 on my machine, because the templates of QuickConnectiPhone are only Dascode 2 compatible. Does anymone know, if it is possible to have Xocde SDKs installed on the same machine. Do i have to install it just into an other folder? Any help is appreciated. Regards, Matthias___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?
Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3. So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it. HTHs Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Thanks for your anwser, Thomas. Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?
LOL, I thought I just answered that? I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK 3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out. I would go with SDK 3.1.5 Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Thanks for your anwser, Thomas. Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2? Regards, Matthias Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III: Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3. So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it. HTHs Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Thanks for your anwser, Thomas. Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?
I thought I answered or I was going nuts. That was why I LOL'd. Glad it helped. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Yes you did. And i sent a direct reply to it, but used a wrong sender adress. And so my e-mail was not accepted by the list. I had to resend the e-mail. Used your original e-mail and copied by mistake my old text into it. Sorry. And also thanks for your answers. Matthias Am 14.05.2010 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas McGrath III: LOL, I thought I just answered that? I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK 3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out. I would go with SDK 3.1.5 Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Thanks for your anwser, Thomas. Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2? Regards, Matthias Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III: Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3. So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it. HTHs Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Thanks for your anwser, Thomas. Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: News on revIgniter (05-13-10)
Very Impressive Ralf, Going through the tutorials now. This is even more important to us for today. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 13, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Ralf Bitter wrote: revIgniter v1.3b has been released ready for download. What's new? This version includes a new library, which lets you write jQuery code for event handling, animation and Ajax interactions using revTalk. Furthermore there is a new helper, which assists you in working with dates. As some of you asked for it: There is now a comprehensive tutorial demonstrating how to build dynamic web pages with revIgniter (on the basis of a simple chat application). Info and download at: http://revigniter.com/ Ralf ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement
René, You could of course start developing with RunRev for revServer and then you would get to target all mobile and web devices, as well as Linux. A revServer option would allow for both native and browser based applications. Which, before this past year, was were all of the talk was centered around. Web Apps are still very relevant and will work in a native browser wrapper on most mobile phones directly. What we need is a community wide collection of revServer 'objects' 'scripts' for each of the desired targets and target features. Tom On May 12, 2010, at 6:09 AM, René Micout wrote: I read ALL the posts about RevMobile iPad published before and after the Kevin's announcement (difficult because I understand directly approximately 50% of what I read). As a non-professional developper not interested by AppStore, at this time 6 (+2?) solutions are available to me : 1.Expect a change in strategy from Apple I don't believe it, especially since I agree with, roughly, the arguments of Steve Jobs (I am not a fanatic cross-plateform). 2.Begin to explore Objective-C with the help of my daughter who decided to join it (she's an ActionScripter...) I find it hard to believe considering my age and my abilities 3.Expect Hypercard for iPad suitable to Mr. Jobs... good wills ? 4.Expect a multitouch Wacom Wifi tablet (like Cintiq but multitouch and Wifi) in this case it would multitouch functions in RunRev 5.Use RevMobile for iPad in his unfinished version Full features ? What price ? Compiler ? and Kevin said : We can no longer create the native interface objects layer, but rather invite our community to develop a set of emulated object. This last point does not bother me too much, it is a form of very interesting challenge and it is a bit what I am doing now with RunRev (the Macintosh interface unsatisfactory) ... 6.Watch the side of Rodeo it feel interesting but it feel complicated (perhaps I am wrong...) If some of you are interested in the point 5, I would be glad to talk with them... -- After that line, that's humor! ;-) I thought also two other solutions : 7.Start a hunger strike impossible, I'm french and in France the food is sacred! 8.Immolate by the fire surrounded by all my Macintoshes (128K, SE30, IIfx, MacPorts, PowerBook 170, PB5040, PB G3 Series, PB Titanium PB G4 12 iMac G7 27, sorry I have no iPhone and not yet iPad [28th May]) under the Eiffel Tower It's the Steve Jobs's favorite monument ! Bon souvenir de Paris René ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement
Richard, I don't know that it would require a complete 100% 'learning' of javascript, exactly, but rather a sharing of javascript resources that are directly tied to irev scripts and UI objects. This is what has been happening already. I need to know how to tie in something I want to do with irev on my site and I go to Sarah's site to see how she tied it into JS (as an example.) This kind of shared resources can lead to a very nice collection of objects and scripts for RunRev users. René, I love this article by Richard: http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/netapps.html I can't speak for Rodeo (You will have to ask Jerry or Sarah) but as far as I know, Rodeo is just for iPhone/iPad but revServer(iRev and revCGI) is for 'all' platforms that have a browser and internet connection. revServer uses revolution in a browser window with out the need for downloading plugins but requires a RunRev engine on the server. It works right now without any violations of any licenses out of the box on all web/browser enabled mobile devices. Check it out on the RunRev site. HTHs Tom On May 12, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: That said, JavaScript is fun language, and as the only language natively handled in every browser it's well worth learning. What we need is a community wide collection of revServer 'objects' 'scripts' for each of the desired targets and target features. Agreed - and for the browser as well: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-June/083955.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement
René, Check out http://www.on-rev.com/revolution/overview/ for information about what how revServer works and search the lists for how Rev CGI works. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On May 12, 2010, at 9:28 AM, René Micout wrote: Thank you Tom (and Richard...) I will read the Richard's article... and if necessary I come back... Le 12 mai 2010 à 15:22, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : I love this article by Richard: http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/netapps.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- ALICE port
http://alicebot.org/igod/ On May 11, 2010, at 4:13 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: The Programming Teaching tool named Alice (java based) is different than Alice, the chatbot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIML http://aitools.org/Free_AIML_sets http://alicebot.blogspot.com/ Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Check-out-Jerry-s-new-videos-tp2135722p2173493.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement
This is good for you Jerry. I hope you keep getting preferential treatment. I, however, do not. I do expect a rebate or discount for my loss. Tom McGrath On May 10, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: I bought the great revMobile pre-alpha along with the conference, the DVDs, the works. I do not want or expect a refund just because a part it will not be delivered as hoped. Even if I had bought within the last 30 days I would not want anything. I'm getting a good product and value for my money. I have no concerns. I know I'll get preferential treatment with any new mobility platforms Kevin an Mark do. Best, Jerry Daniels Using Revolution technology to create iPad web apps: http://rodeoapps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Will trade iPhone development for revServer development
I am willing to discuss trading equal services for those that were relying on developing for the iPhone/iPad. I have written four applications for the iPhone and iPad so far, two of which are for my self and two others were for a client. I have been prototyping iPhone apps since the beginning and smartphone apps for nine years, eight of which were in RunRev. The four applications were written exclusively in ObjectiveC using Apples APIs and Apples xCode application. What I need in return is some revServer work to compliment a few of my iPhone/iPad projects. If you are interested in swapping time for time let me know off list at mcgra...@mac.com Sincerely, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- ALICE port
I am so very very interested in pushing an ALICE port to the next level. If you have a start in MC, regardless of code quality, it would still be the spark needed for pushing a new effort in creating this. Again, I have wanted to create this for a long time with many false starts and course corrections. I actually started one years ago in SC but have since lost that code. So, if anyone else is interested in working on this I am ready to devote some time to it. Our community could use a project like this in times like this, I think. Jacque? David? This would be most awesome. Tom McGrath On May 10, 2010, at 1:30 PM, David Bovill wrote: Yes I did - but this was a very very long time ago - back when i was using MetaCard (some time last century - so I can't vouch for the code quality). I was interested at the time in using it for customer service and game applications... and in the end I figured it was better to simply run an Alice server and call it as a web service than have to maintain an extra code base. On 10 May 2010 17:51, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: David Bovill wrote: On 10 May 2010 07:37, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Many years ago, someone mentioned in this list that him/her/them was working in a revTalk port of ALICE. I just keep wondering if that project was completed sucessfully... Yes - I did that. I truly apologies to all on this list :( I forgot to code the off button. Did you really, or was this an amusing comeback only? I would love to see a Rev port of ALICE. Did anyone actually do that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos -- REV to ObjC - iPhone
Unity3D: We haven’t heard anything from Apple about this affecting us, Our current best guess is that we’ll be fine. Full quote: Unity and the iPhone OS 4.0 by David Helgason on Rants Raves Hey guys,I just wanted to thank our forum users for their support and thoughtful analyses about Apple’s new ToS (terms of service) for its iPhone OS 4.0, due to be released this summer. As you are probably all aware by now, the new ToS has led to widespread speculation on blogs and in the trade press about how the change in wording could affect products marketed on the Apple AppStore.As is so often the case with “legalese,” the new ToS are difficult to parse with certainty and open to broad interpretation—particularly by Apple itself. Some have noted that the strictest possible interpretation could prohibit many products from being marketed on the App Store. Others have argued that under more benign interpretations of the new terms, Unity and others will be just fine.Apple has built a tremendous marketplace for all of us, and it’s great for those who successfully take advantage of it. The flipside, of course, is that the power there so clearly resides with Apple.This is certainly not the first time that developers of all types of apps have faced sometimes confusing changes in rules, or their interpretation. It’s a risk we all run in basing parts of our businesses on Apple.Here at Unity, we are working hard on getting good information, and working to understand whether – or how – the new changes could affect the developer community and others. We have reached out to both official and unofficial contacts at Apple, we are talking to other companies in a similar situation to us, and we’ve been diligent in reading the ToS to get to the best legal (and business-wise) analysis of it.We haven’t heard anything from Apple about this affecting us, and we believe that with hundreds of titles (or probably over a thousand by now), including a significant proportion of the best selling ones, we’re adding so much value to the iPhone ecosystem that Apple can’t possibly want to shut that down.Our current best guess is that we’ll be fine. But it would obviously be irresponsible to guarantee that. What I can guarantee is that we’ll continue to do everything in our power to make this work, and that we will be here to inform you when we know more – as soon as we know more.PS. In the ancient days of the App Store (July 2008), Apple very late changed the kernel to disallow JIT (just-in-time) compilation. What we did instead was spend several months changing Mono to AOT (ahead of time) compile scripts instead (this is why some dynamic constructs in our JavaScript doesn’t work on the iPhone). It was a lot of work, but we made it work to enable all these amazing Unity games to be sold in the App Store, many of which have gone on to be bestsellers and made their creators rich and famous.Thanks again for your support. We’re so very proud of you all. First I would like to thank our forum users for their support and thoughtful analyses about Apple’s new ToS (terms of service) for iPhone OS 4.0, due to be released this summer. As you are probably all aware by now, the new ToS has led to widespread speculation on blogs and in the press about how the change in wording could affect apps sold on Apple’s App Store. As is so often the case with “legalese,” the new ToS are difficult to parse with certainty and open to broad interpretation – not least by Apple itself. Some have noted that the strictest possible interpretation could prohibit many products from being marketed on the App Store. Others have argued that under more benign interpretations of the new terms, Unity and others will be just fine. Apple has built a tremendous marketplace for all of us, and it’s great for those who successfully take advantage of it. The flipside, of course, is that the power there so clearly resides with Apple. This is certainly not the first time that developers of all types of apps have faced sometimes confusing changes in rules, or their interpretation. It’s a risk we all run in basing parts of our businesses on Apple. Here at Unity, we are working hard on getting good information, and working to understand whether – or how – the new changes could affect the developer community and others. We have reached out to both official and unofficial contacts at Apple, we are talking to other companies in a similar situation to us, and we’ve been diligent in reading the ToS to get to the best legal (and business-wise) analysis of it. We haven’t heard anything from Apple about this affecting us, and we believe that with hundreds of titles (or probably over a thousand by now), including a significant proportion of the best selling ones, we’re adding so much value to the iPhone ecosystem that Apple can’t possibly want to shut that down. Our current best guess is that we’ll be fine. But it would obviously be
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
Ryno, Love your artwork. Especially the style of your watercolor pieces. Regards, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 8, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Ryno Swart wrote: Rene, There is no violation. We do our thinking in English or in French or Afrikaans; using typewriters or computers or pencil and paper. This is the creative process, and is personal to me, as to you. The output may have to conform to certain specifications. Process is as open as musical or artistic inspiration. Develop your own process, and good luck to you. Ryno. http://artistvision.org/ But I respect the contract : I think in RevTalk (it is my private life) and I write in Objective C and I compile my Objective C code on (in ?) Xcode... I don't understand where is the violation... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos
I already have a life time subscription to on-rev's revServer and I already own tRev, tText, revMobile, RunRev. So I am a bit confused about what is being offered by Rodeo? On the surface it looks like a 'controlled' access to on-rev through privately owned Rodeo and that the benefit of paying this extra $10 a month is that you will provide some iRev Libraries to handle iPad specific UI elements and or access to webKit in a web app??? I hope this is not the case as right away I can see that this will inhibit contributions to a 'free' repository of library like snippets for us on-rev users. Tom On May 7, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Neal, Thanks, for Kicking In, btw! Rodeo's emphasis on server technology is a big plus: 1. We are really leveraging revServer to make it fast and develop it fast. 2. This eliminates the need to update client apps as Rodeo improves. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 7, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: Not to divert anyone from Jerry's Rodeo (I am a Kickstarter!) but if you want to see something like it, see the link below http://www.componentone.com/SuperProducts/StudioiPhone/ Its nothing like the ease of Rev (its ,Net after all) but I think its a similar concept. Except Rodeo (the new product) is a server-oriented app. Neal Campbell ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
OK, SEE YA, BYE-BYE, HAVE FUN, I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Anyone wants to buy me a nexus one phone? They don't sell them in Brazil :-( I am so going to jump out of apple camp soon... On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: Haven't we passed that yet? If not, I'm more than happy to get us there ;-) http://mingramjr.com/hitler-shows-his-frustration-for-the-lost-iph Also see: http://shaferwaltersgroup.posterous.com/jobs-pay-attention-to-our-ads-or-we-lockout-y Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On May 6, 2010, at 2:14 PM, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: Le 6 mai 2010 à 21:06, Randall Reetz a écrit : This is an interesting Supreme Court subject. I could write a tight case that shows that code is content. An executable program is first amendment protected expressive content exactly the same as is expected and enjoyed by a poet or a painter. Ahh... good I see the possibility of a Godwin point So, build an ipad and iphone stack runner (using Apple's blessed IDE) and be done with it. Then the question is how to distribute runrev generated stacks for the iphad? After that, the question is: Does apple restrict the distribution of ebooks, movies, sounds or other content as a function of origin, protocol, or content? If so, they will eventually face the courts on that issue for sure. Anyone know what the civil liberties people are doing with regard to this topic? It is one thing to be a media broadcaster or a content source, but to be that and the proprietor of the only equipment through with that same content can be consumed, wow, that is so beyond illegal that it is only a matter of time before Apple gets the big legal spanking it deserves. Randall Reetz ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Years ago I asked why no xtalk environment had built an xtalk to C source translator. If stacks could be run through an extractor that did this and output objective C project document set, then it would be trivial for the user to end up with an apple complient app. Better yet, offer this as a service. Rev user would upload stacks to rev's site which would handle the conversion. Adobe cares about the format of its protocol. Rev doesn't or shouldn't. The whole point should be supposing a pathway from rev to iphad app. The tool doesn't matter. Emulate all you want on the rev user end. But output shouldn't need to be under rev user control. I know I don't care how my stack becomes an app. -Original Message- From: Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:52 AM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work? How about distribution rights? Are those unlocked? If Rev or someone wanted to distribute Apple's iphad IDE… could they? Randall On May 6, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Randall Reetz wrote: If apple is apples policy is contingent upon the purchase of the blessed IDE than a court will shortly slap it down. Count on it. But the battle could rage on a bit if apple is giving the blessed IDE away. It's free as in beer, just not free as in freedom. In my understanding only portions are FOSS, but all of it needed for development is available without cost to anything but your time. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: US Fed Trade Commission Investigation
I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: I am no yoga guy, never tried it, but Steve really needs a week at a yoga retreat. My parents were at an anti-war protest in San Francisco back in the George W. days. An elderly lady was carrying a sign that read, Will someone please give Bush a B___ Job! Randall Reetz On May 6, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: What about HTML 5 and web content as a runRev stack publication option? What does HTML 5 say about mobile devise specific input like orientation, acceleration, position, multi-touch? Randall On May 6, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Randall Reetz wrote: http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/05/03/apple-could-be-targeted-by-antitrust-suit-us-federal-trade-commission-investing-apple-regarding-the-programming-language-controversy/ On May 6, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: What Andre has been trying to tell you, is it is IMPOSSIBLE to run scripts or interpreted code on the iPhoneOS. This has been the case from the very start and is widely known and not much debated. The original reason given for this was to prevent malware, but I suspect it also is seen as a way to get around having to pay for an app at the AppStore. I would suggest you consider reading up on the goings on of this case before you try it at the Supreme Court. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On May 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: So, build an ipad and iphone stack runner (using Apple's blessed IDE) and be done with it. Then the question is how to distribute runrev generated stacks for the iphad? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: What do you think RevMobile is? It does exactly THAT. It's just that Jobs doesn't allow for THAT. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.comwrote: Years ago I asked why no xtalk environment had built an xtalk to C source translator. If stacks could be run through an extractor that did this and output objective C project document set, then it would be trivial for the user to end up with an apple complient app. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Tom, having a bad day? Sorry, but Steve Jobs personal vendetta against Adobe IS creating problems for RunRev. Have you not been paying attention here? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: I'm am really getting so sick of listening to this crap. Please go join some APPLE hating, Steve Jobs hating list. WILL YOU PLEASE. It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom McGrath On May 6, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Years ago I asked why no xtalk environment had built an xtalk to C source translator. If stacks could be run through an extractor that did this and output objective C project document set, then it would be trivial for the user to end up with an apple complient app. Better yet, offer this as a service. Rev user would upload stacks to rev's site which would handle the conversion. Adobe cares about the format of its protocol. Rev doesn't or shouldn't. The whole point should be supposing a pathway from rev to iphad app. The tool doesn't matter. Emulate all you want on the rev user end. But output shouldn't need to be under rev user control. I know I don't care how my stack becomes an app. -Original Message- From: Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:52 AM To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work? How about distribution rights? Are those unlocked? If Rev or someone wanted to distribute Apple's iphad IDE… could they? Randall On May 6, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Randall Reetz wrote: If apple is apples policy is contingent upon the purchase of the blessed IDE than a court will shortly slap it down. Count on it. But the battle could rage on a bit if apple is giving the blessed IDE away. It's free as in beer, just not free as in freedom. In my understanding only portions are FOSS, but all of it needed for development is available without cost to anything but your time. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
Chipp, I love ya, but I just don't give a damn.. When RunRev writes back to me and tells me they have a problem with this and what their decision on how they are going to handle this is then I WILL CARE. But until then this is all hype. Tom On May 6, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Tom, having a bad day? Sorry, but Steve Jobs personal vendetta against Adobe IS creating problems for RunRev. Have you not been paying attention here? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
Paul, I also enjoy Chipps' comments on and off this list and am glad to have made his acquaintance on this list. My reaction was not meant for him specifically but about the level to which the comments were taking. Tom On May 6, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Paul Looney wrote: Tom, I don't always agree with Chipp, but I've found, over the years, that when he writes he always has something worthwhile to say - and he usually says it well. You don't have to listen to him - or anyone else. I will continue to look forward to his comments. Thanks Chipp. Paul Looney On May 6, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Tom, see below... On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: It's getting to be too much, staying out of this freaking rhetoric when the comments go down this direction. What with the Hitler references and EVIL comments and BLAH BLAH BLAH Tom, the Hitler references are part of an ongoing comment regarding the Godwin point made by someone else. If you don't know what the Godwin point is then look here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law It's a joke, get it? haha. I use a CROSS-PLATFORM tool call RunRev and I think this has gone far beyond what I am willing to put up with. We have Macintosh developers and Windows developers and Linux developers and soon we are going to have Google developers and Maemo developers. We here on this list need to set an example of true cross-platform respect towards each others platform of choice. I have no issues with Macintosh running RunRev. But if they decided to wall it off like they do with the iPhone or iPad, I would voice my opinion here as well about it. PLEASE STOP USING OUR USE REVOLUTION LIST TO ATTACK AND DEFAME AND AIR YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTAS. You seem to be the one the typing in all caps. The fact is, the 4 SDK license may not be a permanent one, and the more heat placed on Steve Jobs and Apple over it, the more there is a chance for Apple to change their mind. It's happened before where they've changed their mind based on outside pressure-- it can happen again. I don't care it you hate Apple. I don't care if you like ___ better. I don't care if you don't like Steve Jobs. I don't care if you think it's wrong. I don't care what your damn opinions are. JUST STOP Tom, it's a user list where we discuss issues relative to RunRev. I've paid significant dollars and invested time for RevMobile in order to program for iPad, only to have Steve Jobs retroactively change the license agreement against cross platform tools for iPhone/iPad. I am sorry you're having such a tough time with this. Why don't you try not reading comments posted by me from now on? Maybe that will help. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shiny apple-looking Android
Roger, I have been keeping an eye on that one too. It looks nice. I don't know if it is the same one Adobe had at it's booth a few weeks ago but it looks the same. Even if it isn't, it will be great to have more platforms to develop for and more devices. Like I've said, this can only be good for us as cross-platform developers. And, if I can continue to help more handicapped people with inexpensive and helpful software on great devices then we all win. Tom On May 6, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Roger.E.Eller wrote: Has anyone seen the shiny apple-looking devices that run Android? This is only a prototype, but a very impressive one. If Rev will support Android, at least there is the Android marketplace (app store) and other outlets to sell apps. Many consumers will go for these less expensive and more open devices. The media playback and supported formats on this thing rocks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXmWFn2m4Rk Nice, and timely - I noticed this morning that Android was recently added to the official list of OSes to be supported by RevMobile: http://www.runrev.com/products/revmobile/revmobile-faq/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie question
Steve, Welcome to RR. I also came from the HC/SC background and was taken by the group behave issue, at first it seemed an oversight to a much used convention. But since I've been using RR I have found that I use backgrounds less and less. I think this is one thing that truly differentiates RR from HC and SC. In HC I used Cards with backgrounds in every project, then in SC I made the jump to windows with many cards and some backgrounds and now I use many stacks with windows with some cards and very few backgrounds. It is a change in the way I have come to think about our style of programming. The message path and properties etc. take on a much more important roll nowadays and some things like background behaviors taken on a much smaller role. Anyway, you seem to have found what you need so Welcome and hope to see you more on the list. Tom McGrath On May 4, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Aha - that was it. Didn't even see that option. No very intuitive. You have to create a GROUP and then assign it to be a BACKGROUND rather than just going straight to a background to begin with. I guess there's more flexibility that way. Thanks! Steve On May 4, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND. I have a GROUP of items on a single card in a stack. When the CREATE CARD command is issued in a handler, a new card is created but the GROUP is not on it. What might I be doing wrong? Look in the inspector palette for the group, and see if its Behave like a background box is checked. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
Sorry, wrong list.
Regards,
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I Can Speak on the iPad Store
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On May 4, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:
Thomas McGrath sent the following to me. Anyone know what it means or is
supposed to do?
Randall
On May 2, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
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On May 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:
Randall,
Like most people, I'm neither Galileo nor the Church. I sign my real name
to my posts, and I asked you a real question hoping for a real answer... a
simple, honest question about your vision for computing, to which you have
no answer, only more masturbatory rhetoric, and the same name calling and
juvenile inferences that only a few posts ago you so decried when it came
your way. So, unless you wish to become honest and stop hiding inside your
linguistic psychedelics, I give up. I'm not sure at this point that you'd
recognize truth or honesty if it hit you upside the head with a
two-by-four.
Mark
On May 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
Sad. Truth matters in all affairs. Good people can see through lies and
purposeful deceit. History will judge. Are you galileo or the church?
-Original Message-
From: Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:45 PM
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
I can answer the question of your vision myself? I asked you to share
your vision, in simplest terms, without ambiguity, through a few examples.
Instead you answer with more obfuscation. I can only think, after a
certain point, that you don't really have a vision what you're after. And
don't say I didn't ask or that I'm in need of a teacher to tell me what to
think or how to behave. SImple questions deserve simple answers.
Mark
On May 2, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
You can answer that question your self easly enough. Close your eyes,
imagine evolution doing what evolution does. Where will complexity
handling systems be in 10, 20, 100 years? The whole notion of sitting
down at a computer is hopelessly old-school. The better question really
is what is it that systems want? Any systems. Humans are a system. Is
it the shovel we are after, or is it the ditch, is it water we want or
the fruit it grows, is it the fruit or the energy we receive, is it the
energy or is it the use we put that energy towards, what are these uses,
what drives us towards them, where is it all headed? Is any of this
something that is best embodied in a spread sheet or a web page or a
slide show? aren't these notions simply the result of the limitations
our imaginations place upon the future as a result of historical
experience? The real question becomes, what do you want out of life?
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Re: Rev and the iPad
Alan Kay didn't create the Scratch App for the App Store. John McIntosh, a software developer unaffiliated with MIT, made the Scratch app for iPhone. Read more here: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app/ Tom Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app/#ixzz0mrwT6qlm On May 3, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that Apple would remove his Scratch App from the App Store. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Ha ha, Thanks for that Colin, I hope pointing out the author of Scratch didn't come off as rude. I want a Dynabook Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Alan Kay didn't create the Scratch App for the App Store. John McIntosh, a software developer unaffiliated with MIT, made the Scratch app for iPhone. I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that an App based on his Squeak language would be removed from the App Store. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
I don't want a chieftain but I like being a tribesman. The RunRev Tribe On May 2, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 02/05/2010 12:37, Pierre Sahores wrote: The way the present worldwide civil war acts vhere the monopolistic entreprises candidates are the fighters/armies and workers/peoples the victims. Until when ?... As I am not a left-winger I do not see a polarisation between workers and monopolistic enterprises; after all, monopolistic enterprises consist of people. The whole thing looks like an all-too human problem: people like to belong to tribes, and tribes like to have chieftains. The trouble is that very, very few chieftains care about their tribesmen, and forget that they are chieftains only at the sufferance of their tribesmen. The tribesmen also forget that they can topple their chieftains quite easily; they wander around with their mouths hanging open in awe of the mighty chief - forgetting that s/he is, ultimately, no better than they are. Best Regards, Le 1 mai 2010 à 21:41, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Nonsense: there is nothing to choose between Apple, Microsoft and Adobe; and Macromedia wasn't any better, but for companies to survive they have to eat smaller ones. While simple Darwinian theory may not make all that much sense for explaining biology it seems pretty good for describing certain aspects of corporate behaviour. All these companies remind me of Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia: sign a treaty of 'eternal friendship' for as long as it serves your needs and then turn around and kill each other's foot soldiers when the wind blows the other way. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT, way way OT] Barney, HC, and the glory days
WOW, does this take me back to the old days... I just want to go code a card based animation in BW and see if it will go viral on Facebook! Love it, Thank you so very much for this Tom McGrath On May 2, 2010, at 10:15 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: anybody for a purple dinosaur . . . or 2 ??? I couldn't resist. Although Man Beheaded by a Ceiling Fan is forever lost, there is one surviving stack of the Kill Barney genre. It converted to Rev, and then to a revlet, without a hitch. Perhaps it survived because it contains no stick men. The masochists among us may squint into the past here, provided you have the RevWeb plugin: http://jacque.on-rev.com/extras/barneydies.html I am embarrassed to say that I have watched this several times after unearthing it. It brings back such mixed memories. I might add that Bob West, the first and original voice of Barney, was an active participant on the AOL HC Forum, and was occasionally annoyed that his rapt audience became sour critics after a few years, and mildly irritated that they persisted in uploading these files. I had the good fortune to talk to him on the phone once about some AOL business, and he kept changing his voice between his natural one, Barney, and various other characters and accents, leaving me in stitches, not to mention confused about who I was really talking to. He was a joy, a really nice guy. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
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On May 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:
Randall,
Like most people, I'm neither Galileo nor the Church. I sign my real name to
my posts, and I asked you a real question hoping for a real answer... a
simple, honest question about your vision for computing, to which you have no
answer, only more masturbatory rhetoric, and the same name calling and
juvenile inferences that only a few posts ago you so decried when it came
your way. So, unless you wish to become honest and stop hiding inside your
linguistic psychedelics, I give up. I'm not sure at this point that you'd
recognize truth or honesty if it hit you upside the head with a two-by-four.
Mark
On May 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
Sad. Truth matters in all affairs. Good people can see through lies and
purposeful deceit. History will judge. Are you galileo or the church?
-Original Message-
From: Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:45 PM
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
I can answer the question of your vision myself? I asked you to share your
vision, in simplest terms, without ambiguity, through a few examples.
Instead you answer with more obfuscation. I can only think, after a certain
point, that you don't really have a vision what you're after. And don't say
I didn't ask or that I'm in need of a teacher to tell me what to think or
how to behave. SImple questions deserve simple answers.
Mark
On May 2, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
You can answer that question your self easly enough. Close your eyes,
imagine evolution doing what evolution does. Where will complexity
handling systems be in 10, 20, 100 years? The whole notion of sitting down
at a computer is hopelessly old-school. The better question really is
what is it that systems want? Any systems. Humans are a system. Is it
the shovel we are after, or is it the ditch, is it water we want or the
fruit it grows, is it the fruit or the energy we receive, is it the energy
or is it the use we put that energy towards, what are these uses, what
drives us towards them, where is it all headed? Is any of this something
that is best embodied in a spread sheet or a web page or a slide show?
aren't these notions simply the result of the limitations our imaginations
place upon the future as a result of historical experience? The real
question becomes, what do you want out of life?
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Apples actual response to the Flash issue
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Re: [OT] GameOver Mr. Jobs
Can we put this to sleep now?? On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 26/04/2010 20:44, Bob Sneidar wrote: GAWD you guys! Everyone loves the underdog, that is until he succeeds, and then he becomes Darth Vader to everyone. Every despot starts out at least thinking he is making the world a better place. But then, supposing you are the benevolent dictator, what do you do with all the other guys who also want to make the world a better place, but their idea of better is the polar opposite of yours, and they are demonstrating (sometimes violently) outside your office building? Well yer gonna hafta round em up, which is going to piss off their friends and family, who heretofore may not have exactly been against you, but now they sure are! So you have more and more people who disagree with you, so you have to do something about them now. Before you know it the whole country is against you, and you were only trying to make things better! Oh the injustice! I'm just glad Steve Jobs is not trying to take over the world. (Is he?) Bob Every dog has his day; then he gets rounded up by the dog pound people and (if he's lucky) gets humanely put to sleep; because, otherwise, he gets too big for his boots and h*mps all the other dogs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: speaking of gif animations
RunRev does not handle optimized GIFs very well (From PS or FW). I had to search for software that would de- un- optimize them. Once I did that they worked fine in RunRev. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Somewhat off topic. At times I make my own gif animations (Fireworks), and when these are imported to a Rev stack, the gifs sometimes play well and sometimes not. To make the gif I use a lot of copying directly from one frame to the next. When gifs don't play well, it's the gif's transparency that goes screwy. Some frames get drawn ok (seems to be the original frames rather than the copied frames), but other frames seem to be half there with fuzzy edges. But If I run the same gif on a browser, no problems. By way of solution, during save-as I've tried alpha- and index-transparency (no idea what those mean), but that didn't work. Anyone more versed in animated gif design have any guesses as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it? Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [slightly OT] Off for a couple of days
AWESOME.. Congratulations and welcome to Hannes Leander Pfaff Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: And just after I wrote the mail, my wife went into labour. g I must have felt it in the office. Anyhow... Thanks for the kind words everyone! And please welcome the next revolutionary, Hannes Leander Pfaff. :-) All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [slightly OT] Off for a couple of days
My iPad app was designed in RunRev (as are most of my ideas) and then built in ObjC in xCode with xib files done in Interface Builder. The XML/PLIST creator and editor for all of the pList files was built in RunRev as well. The logic is pretty much the same but the syntax of course is very different. I use pLists for the databases (4 of them) and in my ObjC code I use pretty much the same switch/case and if/thens and repeats. It is the API calls that are very different. The biggest problem I have coming from RunRev is Global variables (I have to use NSUserDefaults for a lot of my needs) and poor string manipulation(string to integer, string to methods, parameters, etc., what I would do for 'put word 2 to -1 of it into gVariable'). I don't know how many times I have said 'If only this were in rev! I would know just the quickest way to do this and be done by now.' Still this entire app was thought out, designed, built and debugged and tested in under four weeks, just in time for inclusion in the app store grand opening. That's pretty cool. My next app will be designed in RunRev and then I will build it in ObjC (unless RevMobile is done) and will have a RunRev backend on my on-rev server. I foresee many levels of integration like that in my apps, no matter what happens with RevMobile. HTHs Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I was hoping for a test case. On 14 April 2010 16:20, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: it can't be made with rev or it would not be accepted into the app store... it must be objc On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:11 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Thomas.. is your iPad app made with rev? sqb On 14 April 2010 14:21, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: AWESOME.. Congratulations and welcome to Hannes Leander Pfaff Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: And just after I wrote the mail, my wife went into labour. g I must have felt it in the office. Anyhow... Thanks for the kind words everyone! And please welcome the next revolutionary, Hannes Leander Pfaff. :-) All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] What's an iPad?
I guess I should have said portable. That would be funny watching my friend in her wheelchair dragging around an old Mac trying to talk to people at the local cafe shop. ;-) On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 11/04/2010 20:29, Thomas McGrath III wrote: The iPad is a chance for people who can not speak to be able to Afford and Use an inexpensive and sexy device to speak for them as in my iPad application I Can Speak. For the first time in history someone can buy a speech device for less than the typical $5,000 to $10,000. I wonder: Surely any old Mac running Mac OS 8.5 can do that with all those voices? The IPad is a wonderful opportunity for good software that looks great and is intuitive to use. As a designer, prototyper, and developer it breathes new life into my entire business. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] What's an iPad?
The iPad is a chance for people who can not speak to be able to Afford and Use an inexpensive and sexy device to speak for them as in my iPad application I Can Speak. For the first time in history someone can buy a speech device for less than the typical $5,000 to $10,000. The IPad is a wonderful opportunity for good software that looks great and is intuitive to use. As a designer, prototyper, and developer it breathes new life into my entire business. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.com/app/i-can-speak DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 11/04/2010 20:05, Michael Kann wrote: Richmond was using the plural form of y'all, which everyone knows is you y'all. I am sorry if I can't keep youse all happy: where I come from we don't really feel an urge for a repluralised plural - Thee and You do just fine for the singular and the plural. And, then, of course, there is that woman down in England who has major grammatical problems always referring to herself as We; mind you she suffers from all sorts of delusions such as thinking she is a legitimate monarch . . . but I digress . . . :) http://www.jacobite.ca/kings/francis2images.htm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question about RevMobile
Rand, Using revMobile you can just install an app right onto the iPhone(soon the iPad). I think you still need a provisioning profile from apple but you do not need to go through the App store. And, FWIW, don't take these recent discussions as the final word on anything about revMobile. Most comments here on the list about the new license agreement from Apple are just guesses at best and downright misleading at worst. Some can't seem to help airing out their worst fears in public. I've seen this so many times . I would not make any judgements about any of this until you hear otherwise from runRev. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net My Pad Speaks - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com My Pad Speaks on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-pad-speaks/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 10, 2010, at 11:36 AM, rand valentine wrote: Hi, all. I'm somewhat dismayed by Apple's new agreement that seems to me to quite clearly lock out RevMobile at present. I have purchased it but not even received it yet! And it's not cheap, as you know. I've got a question about implementing anything on an iDevice-- say I write a cute little program using RevMobile, and just want to run it on my own iPad (which I do not presently own :-)) -- is this not possible -- surely the only way to get anything on your iPad isn't through the Apple Store? How does this work? You see, while I'd love to get rich writing nifty iDevice apps, I am primarily a researcher, and Rev's boon to my existence has always been its capacity to allow me to rapidly develop killer apps for research that I use and share with a few friends who do similar research. But I'm thinking now that perhaps I was misguided in thinking this way about iDevices PRIOR to Apple's C-change. And I must say, although I've owned Macs since first purchasing a new MacPlus, this latest draconian proclamation is the first time I've REALLY SERIOUSLY felt the need to reconsider my loyalty to such a company. rand ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved
This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these systems cost in the thousands but with my new software My Pad Speaks and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds and buttons for end users to customize the system to their personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. My Pad Speaks will be unveiled during the grand opening of the iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad simultaneously in 80 countries. My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com On the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Devawriter
Congratulations Richmond, It looks great but I'm a little confused as to how/where the font is. I looked at the page and only found two other apps to download but no font. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com On the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I am pleased to announce that I have released Devawriter 1.0.9: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/dwriter.html beyond minor maintenance upgrades that is probably as far as I will go with the FREE version. For all you unicode fans out there (); Devawriter leverages a non-standard unicode Devanagari font both for text input and for a floating help palette. Anybody who is particularly interested in my underlying code can drop me a line (off-list) and I can send the source stack as an attachment and/or point to an FTP respository where it is backed up so that it can be pulled apart and played with. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Animated gif issue
I have a series of gif animations one after the other and while they are going through their sequences the user can click a button that moves on past the current animation and goes back to an earlier part of the animation. This seems to work well except that at the end of all of the sequences -- after the 'game' is done -- there is a build up of animations that were interrupted earlier like as if they were in a queue. If I click past 6 of the animations then there are six iterations at the end. I tried a cancel messages method along with the pendingMessages but it does not seem to affect this. If this makes sense to someone can you point me in the right direction here. It is frustrating to say the least. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interfacing to Mac iCal and Address Book
Peter, You have Automator scripts/apps and Applescript to choose from. Automator has been updated with many new commands ready for interaction with these apps but Applescripts can be embedded in RunRev custom properties and run via do script as. Here is a list of some of the commands. Automator iCal: Delete iCal Event Event Summary Filter iCal Items Find iCal Items Get Specified iCal Items New Calendar New iCal Event New To Do Item Automator Contacts/Address Book: Export vCards Filter Address Book Items Find Address Book Items Find People with Birthdays Get Contact Information Get Selected Address Book Items Get Specified Address Book Items Group Mailer Applescript Address Book: add remove save address AIM Handle, etc. email contact info custom date group phone person url perform action action title, etc. duplicate save, etc. exists make move Applescript iCal: create calendar reload calendars switch view view calendar GetURL show display alarm mail alarm sound alarm open file alarm attendee todo event open, close, print,count duplicate exists make move Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Anyone got any tips on how to integrate calendar and name/address info from OSX into an application? Not thinking in terms of import/export/sync, more along the lines of instant query/update/delete. Not much detail there but something along the lines of listing Mac address book entries within my app and being able to directly update/delete them from within the app. With the calendar data, use iCal to display appointments/tasks but have lists of them in my app linked to their iCal entriess so any changes within my app get reflected in iCal. Thanks, Pete Haworth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMobile first impressions?
Besides getting my very first iPhone app accepted yesterday on the App store -- DeMoted -- I then got to play with revMobile. I am very pleased so far. I can't wait to build apps in rev for the app store and matching apps on the web. I am testing on my actual iPhone (not much of a chance in messing up the iPhone since you are in your own sandbox and can not effect other apps or the system) and in the Simulator. I took a web based application I have been working on for the web and it is now on my iPhone. Five minutes. Unbelievable. Fonts, fields, as native controls are not implemented correctly yet (look ugly like Sarah stated) but custom controls look exactly like they do on the web and in RunRev ide. Simple animations work very smoothly. Move command and set the location to work great. Mutli touch is not completely as smooth as in a regular xCode iPhone app. Drop shadows etc. look better than the same on the web. Fades look great. Gifs are not supported. PNGs are the preferred format for xCode for the iPhone. Some images cause crashes. Wrongly sized stacks seem to not load right. (makes sense). Some button presses seem to hang more on the device than in the simulator. Ben was not exaggerating in his time to deployment. It truly is as fast as design, build and deploy. The submission process however has taken almost three weeks for my app. YMMV. To be able to use my skills in RunRev across the board like this is a dream come true. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Petrides, M.D. Marian mpetri...@earthlink.net wrote: Thanks for all the details, Sarah. Is it possible to install an app onto an iPhone the way Ben appears to have done in the demo? I know you probably don't want to actually do it with a pre-alpha version for risk of seriously messing up your iPhone, but just wondered if it is possible. (If it were, then I might just try it on an iTouch if I got daring enough.) Yes it is possible according to the docs. You have to have an iPhone developer license i.e. the $99 per year version, not the free version. Then you can use the developer portal to get a provisioning certificate for your app. This is needed by the revMobile plugin before it can install on the actual device. This is all exactly the same as if you were developing using XCode. evil thought might borrow my son's iPod Touch... /evil thought Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What are they called?
Tooltips On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Feeling kind of stupid this morning, but I'm trying to tell someone that the hints we get when holding the cursor over a tool should be enlarged - if at all possible - so that the visually impaired (like me) can read them more easily; however, I can't remember what they are called. TIA, Joe Lewis Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iTunes Library
You could check out my 'free' iTune Library Suite. It can still be found at the address below. I have not yet moved things over to on-rev. The Library is cross platform and the documentation is actually a lab where you can experiment with each command to see how it works. I have tried to include many examples in code and resources to experiment with. http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Has anybody done any manipulation of itunes library files? More importantly, would you like to share? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Test, please ignore
ignored... On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Playing sound in revWeb revlet
I am having a problem getting sounds to play in a revLet in revWeb plugin. I have tried both of these methods using imported audio clips: lock screen go card 2 unlock screen with visual effect dissolve very fast with sound boing.wav and: play audioClip boing.wav Both of these crash the browser window or hang it up in a frozen state. I was wondering if anyone else can play a simple sound in the plugin? Also, I am going to try different formats today to see if that might clear this up. Any experience from other users? Thanks for any feedback. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Coming back to revTalk after ObjectiveC
I didn't notice any issues in xCode because these methods are the norm with ObjC but coming back to Rev it becomes clear very quickly that things don't 'look' right and I could not shake the feeling that my coding seemed unnecessarily more complex. After compressing my methods and shortening my method names things now 'look' more normal and cleaner too. I am going back to ObjC this week. I wonder if this issue will appear there as well. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 24, 2010, at 9:21 AM, william humphrey wrote: I would think it would be the other way around. That's interesting. What if it had been Pascual? That was supposed to make programmers write clearer code. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.comwrote: After spending the last nine months teaching myself enough Objective C to write some applications for the iPhone and iPad I have noticed some problems coming 'back' to revTalk... I submitted the first of my iPhone apps to the app store and am waiting for approval. So, while waiting I started two projects, one in Objective C and the other in revTalk. Anyway, I am noticing a few problems. First off, all of my method names, variable names and parameter names are really really long. They are like four or five words long and way too descriptive. Then, all of my methods are way too modular. I tried to follow some code I wrote and was lost all over the place. I spent a couple hours cleaning up my code and spent most of that time compressing separate methods into fewer cleaner methods. It seems that in an environment like Rev where a lot of the constraints you can find in Objective C aren't there that the bloated-ness of these types of things is more obvious. I compared my code to some I wrote last year and my code from now just looks 'thicker', 'longer', 'bulkier' and I don't think it looks as good as that which I wrote last year. Interesting, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Playing sound in revWeb revlet
I am using a lot of visual effects, any ideas when they might be supported??? Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:38 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Visual effects aren't supported in revlets yet, so I'd take that out of the equation permanently for now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Coming back to revTalk after ObjectiveC
After spending the last nine months teaching myself enough Objective C to write some applications for the iPhone and iPad I have noticed some problems coming 'back' to revTalk... I submitted the first of my iPhone apps to the app store and am waiting for approval. So, while waiting I started two projects, one in Objective C and the other in revTalk. Anyway, I am noticing a few problems. First off, all of my method names, variable names and parameter names are really really long. They are like four or five words long and way too descriptive. Then, all of my methods are way too modular. I tried to follow some code I wrote and was lost all over the place. I spent a couple hours cleaning up my code and spent most of that time compressing separate methods into fewer cleaner methods. It seems that in an environment like Rev where a lot of the constraints you can find in Objective C aren't there that the bloated-ness of these types of things is more obvious. I compared my code to some I wrote last year and my code from now just looks 'thicker', 'longer', 'bulkier' and I don't think it looks as good as that which I wrote last year. Interesting, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revEnterprise v4.5.0-dp-2
Andrew, Things like this might better be asked on the improve list as not everyone will be getting the chance for an update here on the use list and you might end up letting out info that is expected to be private and under NDA I know cause it happened to me once... Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: When I start rev once in a while I get an update message. I am currently using 4.0.0-gm-1 Should I upgrade to v4.5.0-dp-2 What are the pros and cons? I don't really want to jack anything up, but some bug fixes wouldn't hurt. Suggestions? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/revEnterprise-v4-5-0-dp-2-tp1560716p1560716.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: constantMask not working on Windows
Thanks Alejandro, Unoptimizing in Gimp solved the problem and I no longer need to use constantMask (which doesn't work right on windows). This should be a note in the docs. Thanks again. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Tom, To solve this problem, i have used GIMP to convert gif animations: Open your animation in Gimp and click on menu Filters Animation Unoptimize Save the animation with a new name. UnOptimize removes some of the optimizations that compression and encoding add to gif files. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/constantMask-not-working-on-Windows-tp1558057p1558072.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
constantMask not working on Windows
I have some gifs in revWeb weblets that have an anomaly due to photoshops compression of animated gifs. I used the constant mask on these and it works in safari on the Mac but not in safari/ie etc. on Windows. Has anyone come up with any workarounds? Is there a better Mac software to create or open/save the gifs in to fix this? Use PNGs - I know, I know But the artist has given me these files and I'd like to not bother him if possible. Thanks in advance, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: constantMask not working on Windows
Hi Alejandro, I suspect you are right about the optimizing. I will be trying this tomorrow. let you know how it turns out. Thanks Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Tom, To solve this problem, i have used GIMP to convert gif animations: Open your animation in Gimp and click on menu Filters Animation Unoptimize Save the animation with a new name. UnOptimize removes some of the optimizations that compression and encoding add to gif files. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/constantMask-not-working-on-Windows-tp1558057p1558072.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Our place in Hawaii....
That did the trick! Now I'm rockin Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Slideshow is great but NO music here??? Safari 4.0.4 OSX 10.6.2 Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html Thomas... try now... and for the music lovers, we now offer the famed Arunthati Shree Ranganathan singing Veda Satiran http://www.himalayanacademy.com/slideshows/aadheenam/2009/ka_2009-12-30_thushyanthan-aadheenam/ but with this embed code... embed src='http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/yogaswami/natchintanai/Various-Other-Natchintanai/pg-28_Veyda-Satthiran_AR.mp3' autostart='true' width='0' height='0'/embed is it running on Window? On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Slide show and music run fine on OSX 10.5.8 G5 PPC FF Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 GTB6 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Our place in Hawaii....
You are right, NO music plays in Safari on the iPhone. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: Music does not play on safari - iPhone Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: That did the trick! Now I'm rockin Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Slideshow is great but NO music here??? Safari 4.0.4 OSX 10.6.2 Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html Thomas... try now... and for the music lovers, we now offer the famed Arunthati Shree Ranganathan singing Veda Satiran http://www.himalayanacademy.com/slideshows/aadheenam/2009/ka_2009-12-30_thushyanthan-aadheenam/ but with this embed code... embed src='http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/yogaswami/natchintanai/Various-Other-Natchintanai/pg-28_Veyda-Satthiran_AR.mp3' autostart='true' width='0' height='0'/embed is it running on Window? On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Slide show and music run fine on OSX 10.5.8 G5 PPC FF Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 GTB6 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Our place in Hawaii....
Slideshow is great but NO music here??? Safari 4.0.4 OSX 10.6.2 Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Slide show and music run fine on OSX 10.5.8 G5 PPC FF Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 GTB6 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noob Stacks Questions
Andrew, Why not stick to the main stack/ substacks paradigm? It will be a lot easier in dealing with paths and can still act like a single application. A lot of people will do this even with one stack (i.e. a splash screen stack gets built as the standalone and then all substacks stay as stacks. The benefit here is also that any changes while running the application will 'take' in a seperate substack of a compiled main stack.) Otherwise, every stack will have to find every other stack via file paths HTH,s Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I haven't built the Main Stack yet but am building LeaseStack to be shown to my supervisor to show him Rev's capabilities. This is one of Many modules/stacks that are to be used by the Mainstack when i write it. Can I write LeaseStack and add it to MainStack as a sub-stack later? Not a lot of data is going to be passed from Main to the different Module stacks. Most of them are going to be near stand-alone (my boss has a dream of charging differently for versions that include other tasks/modules/stacks). -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Noob-Stacks-Questions-tp1476073p1476114.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noob Stacks Questions
Yes, you can always set the mainstack of any stack at anytime. Tom On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Can I write LeaseStack and add it to MainStack as a sub-stack later? Not a lot of data is going to be passed from Main to the different Module stacks. Most of them are going to be near stand-alone (my boss has a dream of charging differently for versions that include other tasks/modules/stacks). -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noob Stacks Questions
Yes, see the other reply. Also, is is good to think modularly on larger projects so as to keep each module as independent as possible. Then like you are planning already, one module can be updated or swapped out at any time. So, now where do you store information that goes across all modules??? Well, you can use text files(on-offline), library stacks, some combination of both, etc. On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Well, I have already spent about 3 weeks getting this LeaseStack module to function. Can I start a new Mainstack and add this leasestack as a substack? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Noob-Stacks-Questions-tp1476073p1476163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noob Stacks Questions
Andrew, You only start using a stack when it is a 'library' like stack with commands and functions in it that you need in other stacks. From what I have heard you say, that is not what you need. If you use one main stack and every other stack opens from that then they will be substacks or separate stacks and will be easier to save data in and access via code from other stacks. But if you really want them as separate applications then they should not be substacks and will build separately. But then you will need to know their file path to interact with them from other stacks and as compiled apps they will not 'save' data as easily. Globals are available from within stacks and their substacks and libraries but not from other compiled standalones. How many (sub)stacks / applications will you end up with? What is the relationship between them? Do they need to communicate with each other? How much so? Will they need to save data while being used? Do you want one Application to launch all of the other Applications? Are they a sub part of the main application? Or separate? Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Thank you for all of the useful info. Truth be told, I didn't really understand the full extent of stacks in rev. 1. In order to include a stack from someone else in my application, sarah's calendar for instance, I need to use: start using stack whateverStack ? So I should do this for all my substacks in my preOpenStack for the main one? One more very general question that I could not find answered easily in the user guide. 2. Can global variables be used between all the stacks in the application? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Noob-Stacks-Questions-tp1476073p1476453.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu Specifics
Andrew, Welcome, and ask all of your questions. We love em! Also, it is wonderful to see someone's conversion to RunRev and where the obvious and not so obvious problems are. What a great story yours will be. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Between Mark and J's post, I got everything I needed to know. I need to explore string manipulation in rev. I figured that this is where my sorting of these lists would be most handy. Thank you Mark for that wonderful snippet. As a PHP and .NET developer, I am just getting used to Rev and trying to get over the learning curve. You have been much help. Armed with a few more learning resources than I had prior to these posts, I hopefully won't have to bother you with silly things like this. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Option-Menu-Specifics-tp1473235p1473428.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
go card in revLet
I have been building a revlet as a proof of concept. It worked great and as I put more features into it I have run into the 'go card' problem. The thing is if I have a series of commands running and click the next card button then it waits until the commands are done and will go to the card, but if I wait until the series of commands are done and then click the next card button it immediately crashes the browser, every time. I do have a splash screen that loads , waits, and then goes to the next card and it doesn't crash. but any subsequent GO commands crash. What are the other issues that people are having with the GO command??? I would like to either track this down or find a workaround. Thanks in advance, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Anyone else under two feet of snow
Spent the whole day snowplowing the 2+ ft of snow off the driveway. The power stayed on for us and thank goodness the internet is still working. Never underestimate the comfort in staying connected. Like when André shared his google map location. Very cool. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows title reduced to a single character
I would love to beta test your external. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Shao Sean wrote: Anyone willing to test out an external if I build one? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Capturing photographs
I built something similar in runRev but had to use Applescript to accomplish most of it. It takes a picture and then emails it to me. I had to cover up the little light on the iSight with black tape. PS I managed to 'catch' someone at the office going on my computer after I had left. It sent the picture to my iPhone and I was able to turn around and head back to the office. Not perfect or finished but interesting anyway. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I just saw this: http://sneakybastard.co.tv/ [actually quite jealous that the developer thought of that name for his software before I did . . . :) ] and wondered how it could be done using RunRev. I have at my disposal: 1. a USB webcam. 2. a Firewire video source (manky old VHS camera piped throug a video-digitiser). thought it would be fun to try to run up a stack/standalone that would capture snapshots from either or both of these and built-in cameras and save them to some folder or e-mail them somewhere else. This is just a thought as have no time to do this sort of thing just now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around?
Thank you Sarah, This is just the beginning of a huge advantage for runrev developers. Touch screens have been around for a long time but with no real customer base. The size and features of the iPad and the exposure to 75 Million people is enticing enough for me. I have been writing my first and second apps for the iPhone and am branching out to include the iPad. Compare: I wrote a free crossplatform app and marketed it on the internet and got 50 downloads over two years. I co-wrote a free iPhone/ iTouch/iPad app and didn't market it, instead we just put it on the App store and got over 4,000 downloads in less than a year! ! ! This is by far a fantastic market for us developers and also for runrev to pick up on technologies like touch events and to explore portability issues. On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: As for Rev, far more important to get the basics working properly on all three platforms than move into trying to support yet another, and one whose market significance is doubtful. While I have no idea of the market for Rev and how it is divided among the platforms, I would suggest that there is far more commercial sense in expanding Rev to the iPhone/iPad market, perhaps at the expense of the Linux market. So long as your app uses standard APIs (which would be RunRev's responsibility) and doesn't try to do anything too obviously against Apple's guide lines (which are agreed to in advance by all registered iPhone developers), then Apple gives you a fantastic marketing tool in the App store, as well as a standard platform where your apps run in their own sandbox and cannot be accused of interfering with other apps. To me, this seems like a fantastic market for us as developers, and I certainly plan to exploit the iPhone/iPad for in-house applications. as well. Talking in purely commercial terms, I think this would be a much more logical direction for RunRev than continuing to try to support Linux with all it's multiple varieties and it's general ethos for open source and mainly free software. There are already 75 million iPhone users and that number will only increase with the iPad. And these people are already used to paying for apps over the App store. Cheers, Sarah P.S. If you want my thoughts on the iPad, which are very different to Peter's Richmond's, then have a look at my blog http://www.troz.net/tech/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around?
You do not need to add the keyboard dock accessory since it has the almost full size touch keyboard! And trying to push the iPad to be a laptop is not the same thing as either a netbook or a laptop. On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:51 AM, René Micout wrote: Hello Sarah, Le 28 janv. 2010 à 11:33, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : P.S. If you want my thoughts on the iPad, which are very different to Peter's Richmond's, then have a look at my blog http://www.troz.net/tech/ It's basically a big iPhone without the phone then it is a BIG iPod Touch... ;-) An iPad plus the 3 iWork apps will cost $528.97 as well as being smaller, lighter and easier to use Yes but it is necessary to add the price of keyboard dock accessory But I think I love it... But I can not say more as I have not tried... Bons souvenirs de Paris René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around?
;-) René , I guess some might consider it a necessary accessory. I got to use a wacom touch screen a few years ago with built in computer screen and would lay it on my lap and found that using the keyboard was not as desirable or productive as just popping up an onscreen keyboard. But I guess for some serious typing the keyboard might be helpful. But as to Sarah's blog comment, I disagree with even thinking of this iPad thing as a 'working computer'. My iPhone is not a working computer, my other smart phones (7 of them) are not working computers. I can get a certain amount of 'productivity' out of all of these devices. Some of that productivity is very very useful and appropriate for the situation and device on hand. I wrote a 42 page scope of work on my iPhone up at camp but only because I did not have my laptop with me. And although I was on vacation it started raining for two days and so I decided to get some work done in the quiet solitude of camp. It would have been good to have had an iPad at the time but even better would have been my laptop. But if I planned beforehand to work up at camp I would not consider either my iPhone or an iPad but would pack up my laptop instead. On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:33 AM, René Micout wrote: By this point I followed the blog of Sarah : Numbers and Pages will make this a working computer, rather than just a portable communication device. I think that for a working computer the keyboard accessory is necessary (not only accessory ;-) René Le 28 janv. 2010 à 14:26, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : You do not need to add the keyboard dock accessory since it has the almost full size touch keyboard! And trying to push the iPad to be a laptop is not the same thing as either a netbook or a laptop. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
photoshop gifs not working in revWeb
Is anyone else having trouble getting photoshop gifs to work in revWeb??? They don't animate at all and show only that they have two frames but I know they have thirteen. Thanks in advance... Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Modal dialog not modal... any hints?
YesOrNoYesOrNo(Are you sure you want to answer this question?,Yes) YesOrNo the dialogData= back from dialog Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Tereza Snyder wrote: go url http://www.califexsoftware.com/stacks/TestModal.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: USB dance-pad with Rev?
That works great for Windows. For Macintosh you can try GamePad Pro on Version Tracker Link - http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/12293 HTHs Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: To answer somewhat my own question. I connected a USB gamepad and Rev didn't recognize it. However Rev could recognize the gamepad when in the background I ran a keyboard emulator for joysticks piece of freeware called JoyToKey. Nifty! As for the USB dance pad, it is still being shipped so don't yet know about it and Rev, but I'm pretty sure it too will work when using the emulator freeware. Cheers. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
