Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/17/2010 11:23 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: It might be something to do with subjunctives - English does have them, though they are hard to recognize. "I want that you give me that apple". that seems to be OK if a little old fashioned and stilted. "I want that he obey his teacher" (not, that he obeys). Its a bit like je veux que tu ailles a la poste. Better to avoid the problem by using the infinitive. "I want you to give" "I want him to obey". Not he, of course, him. Richmond as an EFL guru will know the proper answer to this As "an EFL guru" I would start by saying that I think that is a misuse and abuse of the word 'guru' . . . :) Also, there is a difference between Native English and EFL; the latter tending increasingly to focus on Communicative Competence rather than Prescriptive Grammatical niceties. I never, ever worry about "whom" as it is already half gone, and as a native speaker I continually catch myself saying "If I was you" instead of "If I were you". From the point of view of a prescriptivist I am wrong; but, Hey, why don't we all revert to Anglo-Saxon (which is bad Northern Germano-Danish)? Walk down a street in, say, Swindon, and I wonder how many people use the "if I were you" structure - probably none. I have never heard anybody say "I want that you give me that apple"; it sounds like somebody trying to fake 18th century English (and botching it) or something from some odd dialect. I would always favour "I want you to give". "I wist that Thou givest me that apple" micht dae fae some sonsy loon fae oot a time-machine, but isnae mensefu the noo. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
It might be something to do with subjunctives - English does have them, though they are hard to recognize. "I want that you give me that apple". that seems to be OK if a little old fashioned and stilted. "I want that he obey his teacher" (not, that he obeys). Its a bit like je veux que tu ailles a la poste. Better to avoid the problem by using the infinitive. "I want you to give" "I want him to obey". Not he, of course, him. Richmond as an EFL guru will know the proper answer to this -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2259430.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Wolfgang, if this were the only problem, then every reboot would take care of all the font problems, until you installed more fonts. That is not my experience. It varies from distro to distro, but my experience is that after very many reboots, you still have a situation where Rev fails to see some installed fonts, and sees other fonts that are not installed, and that it is the only app with these problems in relation to these fonts. The cause of this, if it persists after reboot, cannot surely be the cache? OT: "If you don't want that the user have to use..." Should be, if you don't want the user TO HAVE TO USE. You can't 'want that' someone does something. Dunno why, but it sounds wrong. I know, its awful. I often have had the feeling in Europe and speaking a foreign language that it was like trying to play a piano with gloves on. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2259422.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Sorry, chaps: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/Skritty.png.zip Ouch! Again! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Picture of this morning's fiasco: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/Skritty.png Ouch! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/17/2010 04:23 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: We need Rev to tell us straightforwardly: Do they admit that basic functionality in the Linux version is broken? If so, do they intend to fix it? I suspect actions WILL speak louder than words. Out of deference to Jacque, Richard and Richmond, I will now bite my tongue, except to note this is not about whether Rev and I are suited. This is about whether the Linux version, as being sold, works. If it were the Windows or the OSX version, would this be sold? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
We need Rev to tell us straightforwardly: Do they admit that basic functionality in the Linux version is broken? If so, do they intend to fix it? Out of deference to Jacque, Richard and Richmond, I will now bite my tongue, except to note this is not about whether Rev and I are suited. This is about whether the Linux version, as being sold, works. If it were the Windows or the OSX version, would this be sold? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2258769.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
I set up a stack containing a field "FFF"
and a button with the following script:
on mouseUp
set the textFont of fld "FFF" to "Sanskrit 2003"
set the useUnicode to true
put uniencode("abx") into BLOB
set the unicodeText of fld "FFF" to numToChar(57417) & BLOB
end mouseUp
[bad point] which I had to type manually here because I was unable
to Copy-Paste from the script-editor on Linux into any
other program (tried gEdit and this one - ThunderBird).
What I got was " abx"; so the numToChar(57417) yielded the desired
unicode glyph,
but :
1. at a tiny size
2. superScripted
adding this line to the end of my script
set the textSize of fld "FFF" to 120
only served to set "abx" to a size of 120, while the complex glyph from
address 57417
remained the same.
---
I have a "funny feeling" that the inability to scale text will extend to
all characters from
outwith the extended ASCII table.
Obviously this is not satisfactory.
doing this:
set the unicodeText of fld "FFF" to BLOB & numToChar(57417) & BLOB
made the numToChar(57417) even smaller and put it even higher up the
textField.
doing this:
set the unicodeText of fld "FFF" to numToChar(57417)
produced a similar phenomenon.
-
Feeling grumpy.
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
HOWEVER: I moved the source stack of my 'Devawriter' over to my Ubuntu
10.04 machine
and blow me down if the font (non-standard Unicode) doesn't show up in
the text field.
Obviously time to drink a large cup of coffee and have a think . . . :)
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Richmond, thanks for the tip. Learned something new! Wolfgang Am 16.06.2010 17:47, schrieb Richmond: This is where your grammar gets problematic . . . :) 'you can supply information' . . . "information" is a MASS noun like 'water', 'air' and 'money'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/16/2010 06:33 PM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I am pleased to have helped you (is that good english?)
That is a perfect example of the Present Perfect, and you can feel very
pleased about that.
If you don't want that the user have to use fc-cache, you can give an
information,
This is where your grammar gets problematic . . . :)
'you can supply information' . . . "information" is a MASS noun like
'water', 'air' and 'money'.
that it is necessary to restart the graphical user interface (gnome or
kde or...) after the installation of your program. A fc-cache is done
automatically when the gui is restarted.
Ahah! That really is fantastic news.
Regards
Wolfgang
Am 16.06.2010 17:06, schrieb Richmond:
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No
problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
Thanks Wolfgang! I just tried your recipe and it really solves all my
problems
(and I hope that Peter will feel that this is a suitable 'stop gap').
My only grumble is that I have to expect end-users to be proficient with
the terminal for sudo fc-cache. Unfortunately, as every end user has
adifferent
password there is no way to build this into a stack.
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Hello Richmond,
I am pleased to have helped you (is that good english?)
If you don't want that the user have to use fc-cache, you can give an
information, that it is necessary to restart the graphical user
interface (gnome or kde or...) after the installation of your program. A
fc-cache is done automatically when the gui is restarted.
Regards
Wolfgang
Am 16.06.2010 17:06, schrieb Richmond:
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No
problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
Thanks Wolfgang! I just tried your recipe and it really solves all my
problems
(and I hope that Peter will feel that this is a suitable 'stop gap').
My only grumble is that I have to expect end-users to be proficient with
the terminal for sudo fc-cache. Unfortunately, as every end user has
adifferent
password there is no way to build this into a stack.
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
Thanks Wolfgang! I just tried your recipe and it really solves all my
problems
(and I hope that Peter will feel that this is a suitable 'stop gap').
My only grumble is that I have to expect end-users to be proficient with
the terminal for sudo fc-cache. Unfortunately, as every end user has
adifferent
password there is no way to build this into a stack.
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Richmond wrote: On 06/14/2010 10:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other problems. Are expressions of anger and impatience any less productive than compliant silence? This is not an excusable way for a company to behave! Yes, anger on a publicly searchable list can be damaging, and as such is less productive than other methods. Richmond is right: RR is doing exactly what they need to be doing right now. If you would like a more productive outlet, pony up for Enterprise. One of the perks for that level of subscription is that you can join the Improve list where you'll be able to participate in the process that helps form the future of the product. The NDA info you'll receive will also alleviate the silence you feel RR keeps. I don't know of any other commercial software companies that announce their intentions to the general public before a release is final. Apple even fires people who mention what product they're working on next. "pony up for Enterprise" I am surprised to hear that very English phrase from 'tother side of the pond . . . :) I wonder if it might not be an idea for RunRev to have sort of membership thing, where folk who cannot or won't 'pony up' for Enterprise can pay an annual fee to take part in the Improve list? Yes: they can pay a fee to join the improve-rev list, and they get Enterprise bundled for free. :) I agree with Jacque in her focus on productive outcomes: If you don't like Rev then please recognize that the choice of using it is entirely your own. This is a big world chock full o' development tools. Shouldn't be hard to do as the rest of the world does: find one you like and use it. If instead you actually like using Rev but find some aspects annoying and want to see them improved, consider how that may best be accomplished and then pursue that path. I've found it useful to try to choose my words online as I would if the reader were across the dinner table from me. I wouldn't yell at my dinner guests, or call them names. If there's something I need from someone, I do what I can to help them find what they need to accomplish it. Being angry consumes energy that could be employed to solve problems. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/14/2010 10:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other problems. Are expressions of anger and impatience any less productive than compliant silence? This is not an excusable way for a company to behave! Yes, anger on a publicly searchable list can be damaging, and as such is less productive than other methods. Richmond is right: RR is doing exactly what they need to be doing right now. If you would like a more productive outlet, pony up for Enterprise. One of the perks for that level of subscription is that you can join the Improve list where you'll be able to participate in the process that helps form the future of the product. The NDA info you'll receive will also alleviate the silence you feel RR keeps. I don't know of any other commercial software companies that announce their intentions to the general public before a release is final. Apple even fires people who mention what product they're working on next. "pony up for Enterprise" I am surprised to hear that very English phrase from 'tother side of the pond . . . :) I wonder if it might not be an idea for RunRev to have sort of membership thing, where folk who cannot or won't 'pony up' for Enterprise can pay an annual fee to take part in the Improve list? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other problems. Are expressions of anger and impatience any less productive than compliant silence? This is not an excusable way for a company to behave! Yes, anger on a publicly searchable list can be damaging, and as such is less productive than other methods. Richmond is right: RR is doing exactly what they need to be doing right now. If you would like a more productive outlet, pony up for Enterprise. One of the perks for that level of subscription is that you can join the Improve list where you'll be able to participate in the process that helps form the future of the product. The NDA info you'll receive will also alleviate the silence you feel RR keeps. I don't know of any other commercial software companies that announce their intentions to the general public before a release is final. Apple even fires people who mention what product they're working on next. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/14/2010 10:33 PM, David C. wrote: Thank you Richmond for the care taken with your thoughtful reply. I've used a *lot* of different development tools and languages over the years and never found a single one that was exactly to my liking or to have met all of my felt needs. Whether it be Windows or Linux (don't use Macs), Rev by far, meets or exceeds the large majority of my needs, expectations and wishes. When I look at the RunRev glass, it always seems almost full. -- But, then, I am the chap who when a 4 x 4 hoots at me because I am an extremely careful driver, I stop the car, turn off the lights, and go and have "an intimate little chat" with the driver of the 4 x 4. Bulgarian drivers NOT being the same as drivers in Britain. -- Are you certain that you aren't from the part of Texas where I grew up? Have you ever been to Arbroath? I suspect that may be where a lot of the original red-necks came from. My final "intimate little chat" of that nature resulted in a visit to a local hospital having bird-shot picked out my person, from a thankfully misplaced shotgun blast some 25 years ago... somehow I managed to survive my youth and gained a bit of wisdom about at least ONE thing. I certainly hope that Bulgarian drivers are neither easily offended or in the habit of driving around armed with a loaded shotgun. Just some food for thought... ;-) NO, they don't carry loaded shotguns; most of the bald-headed, neckless goons who drive the 4 x 4s (gifties from their Mafia bosses) probably would find it beyond their intellectual capacity to work out one end of a shotgun from another. All one really needs to do is abuse then in Doric Scots, as, first of all, as I drive a 15 year-old beat-up Citroen "Elation" with the steering wheel on the wrong side (drove it here from Scotland) they expect English; secondly, when they reply in Bulgarian, I switch into their language as a way of proving that there is little difference between gutter Dundonian and gutter Plovdivian; this really "sets the cat amongst the pigeons" and they generally end up apologising . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Thank you Richmond for the care taken with your thoughtful reply. I've used a *lot* of different development tools and languages over the years and never found a single one that was exactly to my liking or to have met all of my felt needs. Whether it be Windows or Linux (don't use Macs), Rev by far, meets or exceeds the large majority of my needs, expectations and wishes. When I look at the RunRev glass, it always seems almost full. -- >But, then, I am the chap >who when a 4 x 4 hoots at me because I am an extremely careful driver, I stop >the car, >turn off the lights, and go and have "an intimate little chat" with the driver >of the 4 x 4. >Bulgarian drivers NOT being the same as drivers in Britain. -- Are you certain that you aren't from the part of Texas where I grew up? My final "intimate little chat" of that nature resulted in a visit to a local hospital having bird-shot picked out my person, from a thankfully misplaced shotgun blast some 25 years ago... somehow I managed to survive my youth and gained a bit of wisdom about at least ONE thing. I certainly hope that Bulgarian drivers are neither easily offended or in the habit of driving around armed with a loaded shotgun. Just some food for thought... ;-) Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/14/2010 02:02 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other problems. Are expressions of anger and impatience any less productive than compliant silence? This is not an excusable way for a company to behave! No; you don't see any signs that they are working on "this"; but one opens the window one fine summer morning and find the field behind the house carpetted with mushrooms; not having realised that the whole field was bursting with growing, burgeoning hyphae until the fruiting-bodies burst forward. I don't know, however (and nor do you, for that matter) what is going on with the incipient 4.5 release, and the subsequent 5.0. Now many other companies (Apple, Microsoft, Adobe to start with) don't feel a desperate urge to share with the existing clients what is going to be in the upcoming release of their thing: so it might be a bit disingenuous to expect RunRev to behave any differently. Had you paid the money to attend the Edinburgh conference you would, probably, have been invited to attend the Non-Disclosure Event at the end where those who attended (myself included) were told quite a lot of things about what to expect in 4.5 and so on. Unfortunately for you; you neither paid the money to attend that event, and I, having signed the NDA, am not prepared to tell you what we were told. Well . . . :) to be honest, owing to various factors, I cannot remember all that much anyway. Of course if you shell out the money for RunRev Enterprise, as far as I can gather, you will get your hands on the beta builds of 4.5 and so on as they come down the pipe. -- What I do know; is that if you were to write to me, as a developer, the way you are going on about joinery and pipe-bending to RunRev it would make me so bloody-minded I would deliberately NOT sort out the things you were talking about. But, then, I am the chap who when a 4 x 4 hoots at me because I am an extremely careful driver, I stop the car, turn off the lights, and go and have "an intimate little chat" with the driver of the 4 x 4. Bulgarian drivers NOT being the same as drivers in Britain. -- RunRev are what they are; a group of close-knit individuals who work the way they do, and I, at least, have come to accept them the way they are; not my way, obviously not your way, but nevertheless coming up with something pretty good. Now it seems to me that both Thee and Me have been bashing on about FONTS long enough to give the folks in Edinburgh a nice set of cluster headaches; so I suggest we now give things a rest, and see what appears with 4.5. AT that point, if things are not what either of us require we can either accept it for what it is, or decamp and adopt another RAD for our needs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Richmond, one sees no signs they are even working on this - and other problems. Are expressions of anger and impatience any less productive than compliant silence? This is not an excusable way for a company to behave! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2254175.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 12:18 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Can you imagine finding these directions on how to use installed fonts on a Python mailing list? Its simply ridiculous. Rev needs to make the fonts work on Rev like they do on all other applications. Or stop selling the thing! There are in excess of 20k packages in the Debian repositories. None of them, none, have problems recognizing installed fonts. If you are a systems programmer and writing programs that cannot manage fonts properly in the OS for which you are writing, its time to stop. Take up carpentry, or plumbing. Um . . . I have a feeling writing vitriolic stuff like this may have a negative effect (I speak from experience). Now; Runrev have been trying to be 'all things to all men' and because of that have fallen short with Linux fonts . . . well Wolfgang's method will suffice until things get sorted out by RunRev. Oh, by-ther-way, I don't know why carpentry or plumbing should be seen as somehow inferior to computer programming: having successfully botched loads of woodwork projects and done some fairly awful plumbing in my time I will always respect Carpenters and Plumbers. At least with RunRev programming there is no risk of burst pipes; just spent about 3 weekends replacing toilets, sink U-bends and so on in our country cottage as they all bust during the freeze last winter because I had put them in so badly the first time . . . :) And the lesson of my story is: if you are as bad a plumber as Richmond; take up RunRev programming instead! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
On 06/13/2010 01:09 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich wrote:
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
hth
Wolfgang
Wow! Thanks so much.
Hey; Alcibiades . . . take note of this one . . . :)
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Can you imagine finding these directions on how to use installed fonts on a Python mailing list? Its simply ridiculous. Rev needs to make the fonts work on Rev like they do on all other applications. Or stop selling the thing! There are in excess of 20k packages in the Debian repositories. None of them, none, have problems recognizing installed fonts. If you are a systems programmer and writing programs that cannot manage fonts properly in the OS for which you are writing, its time to stop. Take up carpentry, or plumbing. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219888p2253303.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Hello Richmond,
I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem.
With
set the textfont of fld "/field/" to "/fontname/"
I can use all available fonts.
Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts.
But you can get a list of fontnames with
put shell("fc-list") into tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList
set the itemdel to ":"
put item 1 of tL into tL2
set the itemdel to ","
put item 1 of tL2 & cr after tFontsList
end repeat
delete char -1 of tFontsList
If you want to install a user font then copy it into
/home//.fonts/truetype/
and in console type:
> sudo fc-cache
Now you can use that font with rev.
hth
Wolfgang
Am 17.05.2010 18:09, schrieb Richmond Mathewson:
[I hope that the thread I am attempting to initiate will, eventually
lead to an understanding of why RunRev does not play 'nicely' with
Linux fonts]
[Ubuntu 10.04 -- Debian deriv.]
1. open a .ttf font with FontViewer
2. click on 'Install Font' button ; 'Install Failed'
Q1. Is that because I am not root user?
3. attempt to open FontViewer as root:
got "distracted" by Font Manager /usr/bin
click on 'Manage Fonts' blob at the bottom
navigate to where target font is installed
on selecting font Font Manager opens and "blow me down"
it seems the font has been installed as a system font:
4. Open RunRev: and the target font DOESN'T show up . . . um, mumble,
mumble, excrement, and so on.
5. AbiWord (what my sons call "Shabby Word" - never mind, it will
suffice for now):
font (Unicode TTF) shows up.
Q2. Could this be because my target font does not have an accompanying
.conf file
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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
The link is maybe a bit old - it refers to Fedora 6, which was 2006, and we are now on Fedora 12. I think there is a problem with Debian based distros. Mandriva, if I recall correctly, worked fine. Your experience with being refused install and then the font showing up anyway is very odd. Still, the question would be, if gedit (say) can find it, why cannot Rev? You can understand open office maybe being anomalous, but gedit and geany (which is not packaged with hardly any distro from default install) to find it, and Rev not, that's inexplicable. Someone in Edinburgh must know the answer to this, but we keep asking how Rev handles and finds fonts, and answer comes there none. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Installing-Linux-fonts-tp2219918p2219978.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Here is what is probably the real reason: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/notgood.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Installing Linux fonts
[I hope that the thread I am attempting to initiate will, eventually lead to an understanding of why RunRev does not play 'nicely' with Linux fonts] [Ubuntu 10.04 -- Debian deriv.] 1. open a .ttf font with FontViewer 2. click on 'Install Font' button ; 'Install Failed' Q1. Is that because I am not root user? 3. attempt to open FontViewer as root: got "distracted" by Font Manager /usr/bin click on 'Manage Fonts' blob at the bottom navigate to where target font is installed on selecting font Font Manager opens and "blow me down" it seems the font has been installed as a system font: 4. Open RunRev: and the target font DOESN'T show up . . . um, mumble, mumble, excrement, and so on. 5. AbiWord (what my sons call "Shabby Word" - never mind, it will suffice for now): font (Unicode TTF) shows up. Q2. Could this be because my target font does not have an accompanying .conf file ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
