[ANN]: Kaleidoscope Gallery (and a corrupted stack)
I have uploaded a Kaleidoscope Gallery - about 30 images on 5 cards - to http://www.sanke.org/Software/KaleidoscopeGallery.zip. While putting the examples together using a number of differing techniques, the working stack suddenly became totally corrupt the day before yesterday, this having been preceded by rather frequent crashes described in bug report 7812. After having been notified that bug # 7812 has now been fixed with Rev version 3.5-RC1, I had used my stack with that new version (and alternatively with 3.0-gm3), and soon after having opened the stack with both versions the corruption occured. There is not even a backup stack anywhere on my harddisk, one of those preceded by a tilde (~), to which I was referred to by the Rev error dialog. I opened the remnants of the corrupt stack with a text editor and saw that about 20 scripts had completely disappeared, meaning that about a week's work was lost. I am in the course of reconstructing the scripts, there are no special problems involved, but it takes some time. Before the corruption, apart from the crashes a number of weird things had happened, among them - A simple flip horizontal script refused to stop (no repeat loops were involved here) and went on forever. - A number of buttons in a supporting stack - one from which I wanted to import some relevant scripts - were being deleted, presumably because they were incompatible with the # 7812 problem.- I will describe the procedures used to create the kaleidoscopic images in greater detail later. They will be part of my announced Gradientology stack. For the time being I mention a few general principles here: - The main principle to create kaleidoscopic images is to apply mirrors, especially diagonal mirrors, but in conjunction with non-diagonal mirrors. There are a number of such mirrors in my Imagedata Toolkit stack (http://www.sanke.org/Software/ImageDataToolkitPreview3.zip) - Another element involves using snapshots of rotated images and to super-impose their imagedata. - Then modifying the imagedata by changing the colors can be an essential element (e.g. duplicating colors in my Imagedata Toolkit stack and elsewhere). - Skewing, stretching, and resizing are other useful techniques. A short description of the main steps in one approach: 1. I create an image that contains a number of squares with bi-directional gradients (again: see the Imagedata Toolkit) 2. The image is skewed by a chosen factor 3. A triangle is chosen from anywhere in the image. 4. This triangle is positioned four times at the top, right, bottom, and left side of the image 5. This image created so far is rotated by an angle of 45 and superimposed with the original image, thus producing an octagonally mirrored kaleidoscope. 6. If you repeat this latter process with an angle of 22.5 you get a sixteenfold kaleidoscope.-- Enjoy the examples of the gallery. IMHO I think that Revolution has a much greater potential to create kaleidoscopic images than an number of programs and results I found with Google searches on the net. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN]: Kaleidoscope Gallery (and a corrupted stack)
Nice... I like! Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.dewrote: I have uploaded a Kaleidoscope Gallery - about 30 images on 5 cards - to http://www.sanke.org/Software/KaleidoscopeGallery.zip. While putting the examples together using a number of differing techniques, the working stack suddenly became totally corrupt the day before yesterday, this having been preceded by rather frequent crashes described in bug report 7812. After having been notified that bug # 7812 has now been fixed with Rev version 3.5-RC1, I had used my stack with that new version (and alternatively with 3.0-gm3), and soon after having opened the stack with both versions the corruption occured. There is not even a backup stack anywhere on my harddisk, one of those preceded by a tilde (~), to which I was referred to by the Rev error dialog. I opened the remnants of the corrupt stack with a text editor and saw that about 20 scripts had completely disappeared, meaning that about a week's work was lost. I am in the course of reconstructing the scripts, there are no special problems involved, but it takes some time. Before the corruption, apart from the crashes a number of weird things had happened, among them - A simple flip horizontal script refused to stop (no repeat loops were involved here) and went on forever. - A number of buttons in a supporting stack - one from which I wanted to import some relevant scripts - were being deleted, presumably because they were incompatible with the # 7812 problem.- I will describe the procedures used to create the kaleidoscopic images in greater detail later. They will be part of my announced Gradientology stack. For the time being I mention a few general principles here: - The main principle to create kaleidoscopic images is to apply mirrors, especially diagonal mirrors, but in conjunction with non-diagonal mirrors. There are a number of such mirrors in my Imagedata Toolkit stack ( http://www.sanke.org/Software/ImageDataToolkitPreview3.zip) - Another element involves using snapshots of rotated images and to super-impose their imagedata. - Then modifying the imagedata by changing the colors can be an essential element (e.g. duplicating colors in my Imagedata Toolkit stack and elsewhere). - Skewing, stretching, and resizing are other useful techniques. A short description of the main steps in one approach: 1. I create an image that contains a number of squares with bi-directional gradients (again: see the Imagedata Toolkit) 2. The image is skewed by a chosen factor 3. A triangle is chosen from anywhere in the image. 4. This triangle is positioned four times at the top, right, bottom, and left side of the image 5. This image created so far is rotated by an angle of 45 and superimposed with the original image, thus producing an octagonally mirrored kaleidoscope. 6. If you repeat this latter process with an angle of 22.5 you get a sixteenfold kaleidoscope.-- Enjoy the examples of the gallery. IMHO I think that Revolution has a much greater potential to create kaleidoscopic images than an number of programs and results I found with Google searches on the net. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
Hello, Rev 3.0 I have asked this topic once without result. Now 3 days before getting my new app CD shipped to the factory I wanted to give it another try, perhaps today other list members are online or perhaps anybody has found any workaround. It is the bug, that the stack title gets corrupted, if a Quicktime Player is in the card (QCC 6235), not always, but on a unknown number of XP machines. Set the runtimebehavior to 4 and the other hints in the QCC didn't helped. I had to set the title of my app to empty, which really looks stupid and not proffessional I am not looking for a workaround, to get the tile back, but I am still looking for a solution, if it is possible to analyze, IF the title is broken or not. Comparing the title with a string, doesn't works, because the title property is still ok, it is just an issue of the title display. If I could find out, IF the title is broken, I could set it to empty only on those machines, where it is broken and for the majority of the users I could show a title. Thanks for any idea Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
Tiemo, I am not looking for a workaround, to get the tile back, but I am still looking for a solution, if it is possible to analyze, IF the title is broken or not. Comparing the title with a string, doesn't works, because the title property is still ok, it is just an issue of the title display. If I could find out, IF the title is broken, I could set it to empty only on those machines, where it is broken and for the majority of the users I could show a title. This is horrible, but: function mungedTitleBar put the rect of this stack into myRect -- left,top,right,bottom put myRect into leftRect add 40 to item 1 of leftRect subtract 20 from item 2 of leftRect put item 1 of leftRect + 20 into item 3 of leftRect put item 2 of leftRect + 10 into item 4 of leftRect put leftRect into rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 90 into item 1 of rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 70 into item 3 of rightRect export snapshot from rect leftRect to foobarL as PNG export snapshot from rect rightRect to foobarR as PNG return foobarL = foobarR end mouseUp This function captures two swatches from the titlebar of the current window. Assuming you have a window title that is longer than one or two characters but not so long as to fill the entire window width, if the left swatch matches the right swatch, then it's probably not displaying properly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
Hi Bill Nice approach :) but I think on Win it won't work, because the title is left aligned, so comparing the left and right rect would always be false. ... but writing this I am just figuring out, if I could store a snapshot of the correct title in my app in a cusprop and compare it with a snapshot made on the fly... Thanks for giving ideas Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Marriott Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 12:42 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title Tiemo, I am not looking for a workaround, to get the tile back, but I am still looking for a solution, if it is possible to analyze, IF the title is broken or not. Comparing the title with a string, doesn't works, because the title property is still ok, it is just an issue of the title display. If I could find out, IF the title is broken, I could set it to empty only on those machines, where it is broken and for the majority of the users I could show a title. This is horrible, but: function mungedTitleBar put the rect of this stack into myRect -- left,top,right,bottom put myRect into leftRect add 40 to item 1 of leftRect subtract 20 from item 2 of leftRect put item 1 of leftRect + 20 into item 3 of leftRect put item 2 of leftRect + 10 into item 4 of leftRect put leftRect into rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 90 into item 1 of rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 70 into item 3 of rightRect export snapshot from rect leftRect to foobarL as PNG export snapshot from rect rightRect to foobarR as PNG return foobarL = foobarR end mouseUp This function captures two swatches from the titlebar of the current window. Assuming you have a window title that is longer than one or two characters but not so long as to fill the entire window width, if the left swatch matches the right swatch, then it's probably not displaying properly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
No, my approach won't work either, because of the different skins and system colors the stored snapshot always will be different - too quick shot :( Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 13:17 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: AW: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title Hi Bill Nice approach :) but I think on Win it won't work, because the title is left aligned, so comparing the left and right rect would always be false. ... but writing this I am just figuring out, if I could store a snapshot of the correct title in my app in a cusprop and compare it with a snapshot made on the fly... Thanks for giving ideas Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Marriott Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 12:42 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title Tiemo, I am not looking for a workaround, to get the tile back, but I am still looking for a solution, if it is possible to analyze, IF the title is broken or not. Comparing the title with a string, doesn't works, because the title property is still ok, it is just an issue of the title display. If I could find out, IF the title is broken, I could set it to empty only on those machines, where it is broken and for the majority of the users I could show a title. This is horrible, but: function mungedTitleBar put the rect of this stack into myRect -- left,top,right,bottom put myRect into leftRect add 40 to item 1 of leftRect subtract 20 from item 2 of leftRect put item 1 of leftRect + 20 into item 3 of leftRect put item 2 of leftRect + 10 into item 4 of leftRect put leftRect into rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 90 into item 1 of rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 70 into item 3 of rightRect export snapshot from rect leftRect to foobarL as PNG export snapshot from rect rightRect to foobarR as PNG return foobarL = foobarR end mouseUp This function captures two swatches from the titlebar of the current window. Assuming you have a window title that is longer than one or two characters but not so long as to fill the entire window width, if the left swatch matches the right swatch, then it's probably not displaying properly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
Tiemo , I think on Win it won't work, because the title is left aligned, so comparing the left and right rect would always be false. I wrote this on Win... do you mean Mac, which is center-aligned? Either way, it's the only approach I can think of. You just have to check the proper region, adjusting the offsets depending on the OS. function mungedTitleBar put the rect of this stack into myRect -- left,top,right,bottom put myRect into leftRect add 40 to item 1 of leftRect subtract 20 from item 2 of leftRect put item 1 of leftRect + 20 into item 3 of leftRect put item 2 of leftRect + 10 into item 4 of leftRect put leftRect into rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 90 into item 1 of rightRect put item 3 of myRect - 70 into item 3 of rightRect export snapshot from rect leftRect to foobarL as PNG export snapshot from rect rightRect to foobarR as PNG return foobarL = foobarR end mungedTitleBar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to check, if QT has corrupted stack title
You should not store it as a custom property, but rather always take both snapshots at runtime. Just choose the correct spots: - On Windows, compare the left side and right side, offset away from standard window chrome, as in my example. - On Mac, compare just left of center and far right of the window In either case, if the title is truncated, the areas will match. If it's working properly they will not. See: http://wjm.org/linked/swatches.png Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote in message news:f01362bbf07e49fb9c7972942a369...@kestner.local... No, my approach won't work either, because of the different skins and system colors the stored snapshot always will be different - too quick shot :( Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted Stack!
Hi, I've used Rev/Metacard for years and I've never had this happen before. I've got a corrupted stack. When I try to open the stack I get the following message Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~backup file. I do have a backup but I've been through that once and the stack becomes corrupted again after a couple of saves. I work with several stacks and I'm not having problems with any of the others. Anyone have any suggestions on causes or solutions? Thanks, Tim Bleiler University at Buffalo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack!
Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, I've used Rev/Metacard for years and I've never had this happen before. I've got a corrupted stack. When I try to open the stack I get the following message Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~backup file. I do have a backup but I've been through that once and the stack becomes corrupted again after a couple of saves. I work with several stacks and I'm not having problems with any of the others. Anyone have any suggestions on causes or solutions? The main thing I've seen so far that can cause this is an imported image in a non-standard format. Not all image apps create images the same way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack!
Thanks Jacqueline, I don't have any imported images in the stack. I do have some image controls on a few cards but their file name is set at runtime and never saved with the stack. All of the controls in the stack have customProperties and I've started saving arrays into some of them. Maybe a bug somewhere using this very new feature? Tim Bleiler University at Buffalo On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, I've used Rev/Metacard for years and I've never had this happen before. I've got a corrupted stack. When I try to open the stack I get the following message Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~backup file. I do have a backup but I've been through that once and the stack becomes corrupted again after a couple of saves. I work with several stacks and I'm not having problems with any of the others. Anyone have any suggestions on causes or solutions? The main thing I've seen so far that can cause this is an imported image in a non-standard format. Not all image apps create images the same way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Thanks Dave KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Hwe go seven years with close to zero corruption, and in the last two months I've read about three cases. RunRev -- what's happening? Ed, before you go down the arduous route of rebuilding the stack, you might try seeing if there's some way to delete any images in it first. In most cases corruption is related to images embedded in the stack, and it may be possible to delete those without truly opening it (the engine does less work with a stack when it doesn't actually open it) with something like this (off the top of my head, so maybe it'll need revision): on mouseUp answer file Select the bad stack: if it is empty then exit to top put it into tStackFile -- repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards in stack tStackFile repeat with j = the number of images \ of cd i of stack tStackFile down to 1 delete img 1 of cd i of stack tStackFile end repeat end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted Stack
Piece of cake! If you strip any character that's above or below a certain ASCII level, you should have a text file with the content of your stack that can be easily parsed to restore the stack. Most objects are delimited. I've done so a zillion times it seems... But to be honest, I haven't written the stack to recuperate or fix corrupted stacks yet, but i have lots of hypercard stacks I can't port - including a 14000 Mac icon library that's a shame to throw away... But c'est la vie... The funniest is that my script extractor HC stack is corrupted too ;) Challenge: For 1500 EUs or a free ticket 1-2 week trip to Luxembourg-Chicago-Monterey-Luxembourg, i'll write an opensource free stack parser/stack reconstructor... Monterey or bust! ;) cheers Xav -- http://Monsieurx.Com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:41 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Corrupted Stack David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted Stack
I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Ed ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
--- KOPP Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? see if this works: put the text of field 1 of cd 1 of stack myCorruption into msg if it works, make a handler with repeats for all cards and fields. good luck, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted Stack
I tried put the text of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack... and got the following: Message execution error: Error Description: Chunk: can't find stack. I double checked to make sure that I was giving it the correct stack name. To make sure, I modified the code slightly to the following: Answer file which stack?; put the text of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack it into msg. The code works fine if I select a good stack. It doesn't recognize my corrupted stack. :-( -Original Message- From: Erik Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:07 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Corrupted Stack --- KOPP Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? see if this works: put the text of field 1 of cd 1 of stack myCorruption into msg if it works, make a handler with repeats for all cards and fields. good luck, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
Try opening the stack in a text editor. You might see the scripts field text there and be able to rescue most of it. Sarah On 4 May 2005, at 1:03 PM, KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Ed ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Hwe go seven years with close to zero corruption, and in the last two months I've read about three cases. RunRev -- what's happening? Ed, before you go down the arduous route of rebuilding the stack, you might try seeing if there's some way to delete any images in it first. In most cases corruption is related to images embedded in the stack, and it may be possible to delete those without truly opening it (the engine does less work with a stack when it doesn't actually open it) with something like this (off the top of my head, so maybe it'll need revision): on mouseUp answer file Select the bad stack: if it is empty then exit to top put it into tStackFile -- repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards in stack tStackFile repeat with j = the number of images \ of cd i of stack tStackFile down to 1 delete img 1 of cd i of stack tStackFile end repeat end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Recovery of a corrupted stack
Hi Dave, thanks for your offer to help directly. Would it be ok if I sent you the offending stack by attachment? I really cannot make any sense of it. If I try to open the stack in Rev it simply says it's not a stack. The funny thing is I recovered a .sit with the same file inside. Stuffit uncompresses it ok and the stack is still not opened/recognized by Revolution. I spent a month developing this sucker and I am really keen to recover anything I can from it. Thanks once more Mario PS Thanks to all others that offered advise. WordPowerphone: +64 4 293 4774 Software Developers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Consultants URL: http://members.fortunecity.com/wordpower1/ Film/Audio/Video/DVD SpecialistssnailMail: P.O. Box 160, Waikanae, New Zealand ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
On 23 Apr 2005, at 10:49 AM, Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. Try locking messages before opening the stack - click the Messages button in the toolbar until the lock looks locked. Your stack may have an openStack or similar handler that is closing it down. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack -- actual case study
David, i used your ideas on my bad stack songsDB with the most amazing results! backgroundbehavior = true for both stacks 1. make a fresh stack 2. copy the bad stack script, 3. copy the bad stack group(s), one in this case containing all controls 4. copy all 400 pages of the bad stack all of the contents of all of the fields transfered correctly. buttons to find, sort, limit, checkbox which fields to display for printing, all worked correctly. the bad stack was 137K, the new one: 16 Megabytes! then the corker, the bad stack somehow auto-corrected and began to work again! Erik Hansen --- David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you need to save the scripts then try this: With a fresh load of RunRev (making sure there are no Stacks in memory), open the message box and type: answer file Which Stack?;edit script of stack it. This will prompt you for a file, select the Stack in question. Which will open the Stack Script, you can use: edit script of card X of stack it or edit script of control X of card Y of stack it This should allow you to at least copy your Scripts into a text file(s) so you can re-paste them. You can then try to open the Script using the command open stack it, however this may crash the IDE if the Stack is really corrupted. One thing I tried was to comment out the preOpenStack and openStack handlers in the Stack Script and save it back using the Apply and Save Stack command (after making a backup). Once you have saved the stack quit RunRev and try reloading the Stack. If it now works you know it's something in your preOpen ot Open handler that is causing the IDE to barf when the Stack is first opened. You can also write a tool stack that you can use to extract Objects from the Stack in question. If you need more help on this feel free to contact me directly. I have become quite a expert at recovering weird Stacks lately! [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
Hi, If you need to save the scripts then try this: With a fresh load of RunRev (making sure there are no Stacks in memory), open the message box and type: answer file Which Stack?;edit script script of stack it. This will prompt you for a file, select the Stack in question. Which will open the Stack Script, you can use: edit script of card X of stack it or edit script of control X of card Y of stack it This should allow you to at least copy your Scripts into a text file(s) so you can re-paste them. You can then try to open the Script using the command open stack it, however this may crash the IDE if the Stack is really corrupted. One thing I tried was to comment out the preOpenStack and openStack handlers in the Stack Script and save it back using the Apply and Save Stack command (after making a backup). Once you have saved the stack quit RunRev and try reloading the Stack. If it now works you know it's something in your preOpen ot Open handler that is causing the IDE to barf when the Stack is first opened. You can also write a tool stack that you can use to extract Objects from the Stack in question. If you need more help on this feel free to contact me directly. I have become quite a expert at recovering weird Stacks lately! All the Best Dave Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. I'll bet the folks at RunRev would too. What did they say when you sent it to them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
Hi, If you need to save the scripts then try this: With a fresh load of RunRev (making sure there are no Stacks in memory), open the message box and type: answer file Which Stack?;edit script script of stack it. This will prompt you for a file, select the Stack in question. Which will open the Stack Script, you can use: edit script of card X of stack it or edit script of control X of card Y of stack it This should allow you to at least copy your Scripts into a text file(s) so you can re-paste them. You can then try to open the Script using the command open stack it, however this may crash the IDE if the Stack is really corrupted. One thing I tried was to comment out the preOpenStack and openStack handlers in the Stack Script and save it back using the Apply and Save Stack command (after making a backup). Once you have saved the stack quit RunRev and try reloading the Stack. If it now works you know it's something in your preOpen ot Open handler that is causing the IDE to barf when the Stack is first opened. You can also write a tool stack that you can use to extract Objects from the Stack in question. If you need more help on this feel free to contact me directly. I have become quite a expert at recovering weird Stacks lately! All the Best Dave Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. I'll bet the folks at RunRev would too. What did they say when you sent it to them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
Opps! Typeo, that should be: open the message box and type: answer file Which Stack?;edit script of stack it. All the Best Dave Hi, If you need to save the scripts then try this: With a fresh load of RunRev (making sure there are no Stacks in memory), open the message box and type: answer file Which Stack?;edit script script of stack it. This will prompt you for a file, select the Stack in question. Which will open the Stack Script, you can use: edit script of card X of stack it or edit script of control X of card Y of stack it This should allow you to at least copy your Scripts into a text file(s) so you can re-paste them. You can then try to open the Script using the command open stack it, however this may crash the IDE if the Stack is really corrupted. One thing I tried was to comment out the preOpenStack and openStack handlers in the Stack Script and save it back using the Apply and Save Stack command (after making a backup). Once you have saved the stack quit RunRev and try reloading the Stack. If it now works you know it's something in your preOpen ot Open handler that is causing the IDE to barf when the Stack is first opened. You can also write a tool stack that you can use to extract Objects from the Stack in question. If you need more help on this feel free to contact me directly. I have become quite a expert at recovering weird Stacks lately! All the Best Dave Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. I'll bet the folks at RunRev would too. What did they say when you sent it to them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
At 07:30 PM 4/22/2005, you wrote: Hi to all, I wander if anybody can help me. I had a stack that got deleted (hd was reinitialized). I managed to recover it but revolution does not want to open it. It says it's corrupted. I wander if there is a tool in revolution to recover corrupted stacks (all or partially). I tried opening the .rev file in a text editor but it shows nothing legible. Thanks for your help. Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. I'll bet the folks at RunRev would too. What did they say when you sent it to them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recovery of a corrupted stack
At 08:04 PM 4/22/2005, you wrote: Paul Salyers wrote: Maybe this answer will also help me, not a reinitialized I try to load it in my rev editor and it closes down not even asking if I wish to save. I can't even load in edit mode. Any suggestion. This script isn't some great program I was just making scripts to see how they worked so I remade in about 5 min. I would like to know why this is happening. I'll bet the folks at RunRev would too. What did they say when you sent it to them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Gaskin I didn't but I will thanks for the email address. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted stack
When a stack starts to crash runrev or becomes corrupted, there's only one satisfactory solution. Rebuilt it from scratch. Dont even think of copy pasting the controls (if you can) because the corrupted part might creep in. If you didn't password lock your stack, you can find your scripts back by reading the stack file with a text editor like BBEdit Mac) or UltraEdit (PC). Make sure you dont copy paste control or hidden characters, they might cause invisible problems later. This from experience... Fortunately, it almost never happens! But a good rule of thumb to avoid this is: - Save often with new version numbers each time. - Import images after you finish the GUI. Cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Vogelaar (de Mare) Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 05:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Corrupted stack Hi, I have a stack I worked on for several days, but appears to be corrupted. According to RR, I should try to open the backup file. I have several from different stages of development, but all give the same error. It contains a lot of lay-outed text and a few small PNGs in the file. I suspect the pictures to cause the problem. I imported the images in the morning and I saved the stack several times without any problem (so there is no ~stackname.rev file). Only the stacks cannot be reopened. That is why all the backup files of that day are corrupted as well. I've had corrupted stacks before after importing pictures to them before when trying to open image-containing stacks on a Windows machine, so I thought it was just a cross-platform problem (since I am a Mac OSX user). Strangely enough, attempt #2 of course didn't contain these pictures, but also became corrupted. Is there anything I can do to save some work from these corrupted files? BTW, the file size became surprisingly large; although it contains about 10 Mb of data I can think of, the file size is almost 48 Mb. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:31 -0700 From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: corrupted stack I've run into a couple more instances of my project getting corrupted recently. Hi Alex, I may have missed the original posting here but the word corrupted anywhere within a mile of project or stack brings back nightmare nights of yonder SC and HC years. If you have already covered this could you please let me know some specifics about the corruption off-list? I am just distributing a fairly large stack inside a corporation. Thanx Frans Schoffelen -- Frans Schoffelen Dynamic Language Acquisition BV Software Training http://www.dynamicLanguage.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Nov 21, 2003, at 12:43 AM, Frans Schoffelen wrote: Hi Alex, I may have missed the original posting here but the word corrupted anywhere within a mile of project or stack brings back nightmare nights of yonder SC and HC years. If you have already covered this could you please let me know some specifics about the corruption off-list? I am just distributing a fairly large stack inside a corporation. Frans, I'll let you know the details off-list. To be clear though- I seem to be in the definite minority in experiencing this, and the corruption is so infrequent that I'm still very productive, and the corruption only seems to happen when working in the IDE. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would bug it. The engine itself seems generally reliable in this regard, so it may be something in the interactions with the IDE. As an additional data point, since 1997 I've only had one corrupted stack with MC, and in all cases where a save was terminated (fatal error elsewhere in the system, power outage, me doing something stupid) there was a ~ copy to work from. I've run into a couple more instances of my project getting corrupted recently. Since I use altArchive plugin, I just have to look in my archive folder for the most recent non-corrupted stack. In this case however 3 of the archived stacks were corrupted also and I had to go back to the 4th archive stack. So whatever is happening, the IDE is continuing to work with the corrupted stack, allowing revArchive to make copies of it. This makes me uneasy. Just more data points if you are listening RR # corrupted archived versions: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345301 18 Nov 14:37 FacCalc000155.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345301 18 Nov 14:29 FacCalc000154.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345501 18 Nov 14:21 FacCalc000153.rev # not-corrupted archive versions: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 6959978 17 Nov 10:54 FacCalc000152.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 6977865 17 Nov 10:36 FacCalc000151.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7010443 14 Nov 16:27 FacCalc000150.rev ... Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 23, 2003, at 6:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Is there a copy of the stack in the same directory with a tidle after its name? (e.g., MtStack.rv~) if so, that's a backup created bythe engine as a temp file when doing saves -- if you have such a file you should be able to just remove the tilde and get back to work. This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Alex Rice wrote: This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. continuing that thought... So is there, or should there be a bugzilla bug for stacks being corrupted with no ~ backup stack existing for recovery? Chipp's revArchive pluging is saving my A%% again. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Alex Rice wrote: On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Alex Rice wrote: This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. continuing that thought... So is there, or should there be a bugzilla bug for stacks being corrupted with no ~ backup stack existing for recovery? I would bug it. The engine itself seems generally reliable in this regard, so it may be something in the interactions with the IDE. As an additional data point, since 1997 I've only had one corrupted stack with MC, and in all cases where a save was terminated (fatal error elsewhere in the system, power outage, me doing something stupid) there was a ~ copy to work from. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: corrupted stack
Hi Alex, I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) On those rare occasions when I couldn't get a stack to open, I lock messages and open the stack, then comment out all the on preOpenStack on openStack on startup handlers and go from there. Usually it's something in one of those handlers. As I'm sure you know, Rev loads your whole stack(s) in memory and works with them while in memory. So, the *only* time a stack can get corrupted is during a save or save as (or virus). I'm using XP. You're mileage may vary if on Mac. altArchive has saved by *%$ quite a few times also! For those of you who may be lurking and don't know, altArchive is a free plugin which saves iterative versions of your stack and puts them in an 'archive folder' at the same level as your stack. More can be found at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Rev2.0Plugins.htm -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Chipp Walters wrote: I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) That raises a good question: could there be anything unique to the stack file in question or its scripts that makes it more prone to corruption? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 11:00 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Alex, I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) I figured Richard is still using Metacard most of the time hence the good track record. You are lucky indeed. On those rare occasions when I couldn't get a stack to open, I lock messages and open the stack,... FWIW when you do get a corrupted stack you will see an error dialog There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. This happens even with messages locked- you can't even open the stack at all. As I'm sure you know, Rev loads your whole stack(s) in memory and works with them while in memory. So, the *only* time a stack can get corrupted is during a save or save as (or virus). Which is why I think there must be a problem with Rev's save routines. These corrupted stacks have occurred on various different OS X installations with different hard disks, different CPUs, different OS versions, etc. No OS crashes or Revolution.app crashes have preceded the corrupted stack either. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would bug it. OK folks it's bug# 857. Please add your observations to it. summary: corrupted stacks are never accompanied by a ~ backup file. http://runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi? id=857 Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 11:06 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: That raises a good question: could there be anything unique to the stack file in question or its scripts that makes it more prone to corruption? Yes and no. It's my project stack I've been working on for 18 months. I work on the project every work day in Revolution. There is nothing unusual about the 2-3 days out of 365 days when the project gets corrupted. It's not surprising it would be *this* project stack - because that's 90% of what I do in Revolution. Also the project's data stack was corrupted once (seperate stack) and the mainstack has been corrupted once or twice. So it's not just a single stack in question. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
corrupted stack
Hi, I use Rev 2.1.1 and XP Pro. Last night I was using Rev and had a stack open. Another program running at the same time crashed and the whole system hung, including Rev. I forced a restart and upon trying to reopen my stack I received the following error message. There was a problem opening that stack. file is not a stack I am not able to go to the stack. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to retrieve my data lost in this stack? I've searched most of the archive mailing list. John Brosnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
John mnic wrote: There was a problem opening that stack. file is not a stack I am not able to go to the stack. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to retrieve my data lost in this stack? Is there a copy of the stack in the same directory with a tidle after its name? (e.g., MtStack.rv~) if so, that's a backup created bythe engine as a temp file when doing saves -- if you have such a file you should be able to just remove the tilde and get back to work. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I tryed to open a Revolution Stack with BBEdit Lite. Then, when I want to open this stack with Revolution, I have the message : this is a corrupted stack file. Is there a possibility to repair corrupted stack file ? Thank you. Edouard == Edouard, You OF COURSE made a copy of the stack file, then tried to open teh copy with BBEdit lite, R-I-G-H-T ? So, just delete the corrupted one and use the original! miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted stack
Hello, I tryed to open a Revolution Stack with BBEdit Lite. Then, when I want to open this stack with Revolution, I have the message : this is a corrupted stack file. Is there a possibility to repair corrupted stack file ? Thank you. Edouard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
__-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: Corrupted stack From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Date: 22 Jul 2003 23:43:05 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif Pierre, Thanks for the tips. I'll see what Norton can do for me. I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. I tried to reopen it from the open menu but Rev assumed it was already active. So I decided to shut down and start over. And, is my habit when closing RR, I *saved* all running stacks, thus, apparently saving the corruption. I suspect, therefore, that any files I find will also be corrupted. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: __-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: Corrupted stack From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Date: 22 Jul 2003 23:43:05 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif Pierre, Thanks for the tips. I'll see what Norton can do for me. I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. I tried to reopen it from the open menu but Rev assumed it was already active. So I decided to shut down and start over. And, is my habit when closing RR, I *saved* all running stacks, thus, apparently saving the corruption. I suspect, therefore, that any files I find will also be corrupted. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
--- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: [snip] I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. And also try from the message box : set the topLeft of stack Foobar to 100,100 just in case it got sent somewhere off-screen. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrupted stack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: [snip] I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. And also try from the message box : set the topLeft of stack Foobar to 100,100 just in case it got sent somewhere off-screen. Jan Schenkel. Jan and Pierre, You were both on the right track and thank you for the suggestions. It turned out to be quite tricky. I tried to open the file once again, and once again there was no visible stack. It wasn't even listed in the Window pull down menu. But this time it was the first stack I tried to open and lo and behold, I noticed that there was *another* stack and it was named Utilities. Where in the world did that come from? So I went to the Application browser and the property inspector and found that the stack Utilities had a width of 20 pixels and a height of 20 pixels. And the property inspector wouldn't allow me to increase these values. My stack had changed its name and permanently shrunk. Well, to make a long story short (actually too late for that) I discovered that I had originally been attempting to give a pull down menu (named Utilities) an icon. Apparently I had selected the *stack* and not the Utilities *button*. I had renamed the stack Utilities, and given it a 20x20 icon. So, of course, my stack disappeared, or rather shrank to a tiny icon and I just didn't see it. Furthermore when I tried to open it in RR 1..1 I got a message: stack corrupted, and I assumed the worst. (I know there is a value to giving the stack and the file different names, but this often trips me up. I was opening a file named Optics and getting a stack name Utilities.) Well, to make a long story story (again) I set the stack icon to 0 and renamed the stack, and so all is now well. Whew! Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted stack
Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
