Filter command not working with tabs??
Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this yourselves. In the message box put: put test tab tab return \ sw_ tab tab return \ sw_test3 tabtab return into theDropData put tab tab into theFilter filter theDropData without theFilter put theDropData I get: test sw_ sw_test3 NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3 does not. The filter command here should give me just line 3 shouldn't it?? Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular expressions very well, but the command reference seems to indicate that I should filter out all the lines that do not contain two tabs, but it is not doing this. It looks for all the world like the filter command is completely ignoring tabs in the expression! Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command not working with tabs??
Bob- Try filter theDropData without * theFilter * -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command not working with tabs??
Hi Bob, filter theDropData without * theFilter * -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 3 jun 2010, at 00:18, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this yourselves. In the message box put: put test tab tab return \ sw_ tab tab return \ sw_test3 tabtab return into theDropData put tab tab into theFilter filter theDropData without theFilter put theDropData I get: test sw_ sw_test3 NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3 does not. The filter command here should give me just line 3 shouldn't it?? Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular expressions very well, but the command reference seems to indicate that I should filter out all the lines that do not contain two tabs, but it is not doing this. It looks for all the world like the filter command is completely ignoring tabs in the expression! Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command not working with tabs??
Dangit! I think I already asked this one a couple weeks ago! sigh I remember now. Bob On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Try filter theDropData without * theFilter * -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command not working with tabs??
The filter command works on wildcards, not regex Your filter definition = keep lines that are not exactly tabtab You might be thinking put * tab tab * into theFiliter = which means keep lines that do not have at least two tabs in sequence On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this yourselves. In the message box put: put test tab tab return \ sw_ tab tab return \ sw_test3 tabtab return into theDropData put tab tab into theFilter filter theDropData without theFilter put theDropData I get: test sw_ sw_test3 NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3 does not. The filter command here should give me just line 3 shouldn't it?? Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular expressions very well, but the command reference seems to indicate that I should filter out all the lines that do not contain two tabs, but it is not doing this. It looks for all the world like the filter command is completely ignoring tabs in the expression! Bob Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
David, Yes, it is right. But I have noticed that the display of the list in the field takes time. I made tests by displaying the result of the filtering only after having typed the third letter and it is enough fast for not slow down the typing of the user. Jerome Rosat Le 21 oct. 2009 à 20:07, David Glasgow a écrit : How about the filter with only kicks in after the second or third character is typed? The first two characters take a disproportionate amount of time, and probably don't reduce the list size substantially. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Yesterday I went back to an old HC stack that filtered just such a list. I tried a Rev version of it on a list of 400,000 lines and it seems to run reasonably responsively. If this has already been dealt with better, then just ignore... There is a search field and another field named results. I put the list in a global called clientlist, so one could just go and type into the search field at any time. In the search field script: on rawkeyUp tkey if length(line 1 of me) 4 then pass rawkeyUp put line 1 of me into tofind --lose errant returns get revFullFind(clientList,toFind,lineNum,false) repeat with y = 1 to number(lines of it) put line line y of it of clientlist return after temp1 end repeat if temp1 = then put No such quote tofind quote found into fld results else put temp1 into fld results end rawkeyUp function revFullFind theText,toFind,form,exactly repeat for each line theline in thetext add 1 to counter if exactly = true then if toFind = theLine then if form = lineNum then x put counter return after temp22 else if form = txt then put theLine return after temp22 end if end if else if toFind is in theLine then if form = lineNum then put counter return after temp22 else if form = txt then put theLine return after temp22 end if end if end if end repeat return temp22 end revFullFind revFullFind was one of my earliest Rev efforts; it duplicates much of Rinaldi's fullFind. It gives here a return delimited list of line numbers of all occurrances of a string found in another string, which is then mapped to the riginal data. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jim, Le 22 oct. 2009 à 05:41, Jim Ault a écrit : your asking a lot of a chunking function to scan a large body of text between key strokes. Start with the following steps to see if these help. -1- Showing a list of more than 50 hits may not be useful Good idea. -2- Doing an filter operation with less than 3 chars may not be useful Filter a list with less than 3 chars reduce the list. -3- Showing the number of lines (hits) at the top of the field is useful Good idea. -4- Most likely you will need to pre-index the 400K lines to get more speed Indexing is what data bases do to boost speed. You need to decide what the logic is, such as any char in any string, or words beginning with the user input, etc. I should think to this solution. Is the 400K set of lines dynamic or static? Static for my tests. Dynamic from 0 to about 400k lines in production. Does the user type logical words, or phrases? Both. eg. santos -- single word eg. Gourgas -- single word eg. dos santos -- phrase in order eg. rue Gourgas --phrase in order If link tables are required, then you should consider a database, since this is something they do well. Hope this helps. Yes, thank you. If some body in the list is looking for a file with names and address (400K lines), I create a file with french name, French, Spanish, Italians, Portuguese first name and address of Geneva in Switzerland. It is possible to download here: http://files.me.com/jrosat/tac1b4 In the state of my tests, here the my fastest code: on keyUp set the itemdelimiter to tab Switch the number of chars of me Case 1 put empty into vListe repeat for each line theLine in vNoms if item 2 of theLine contains me then put theLine cr after vListe end repeat break Case 2 put vListe into maListe put empty into vListe repeat for each line theLine in maListe if item 2 of theLine contains me then put theLine cr after vListe end repeat break Default put vListe into maListe put empty into vListe repeat for each line theLine in maListe if item 2 of theLine contains me then put theLinecr after vListe end repeat delete the last char of vListe put Number of lines = (the number of lines of vListe) into theOutput if the number of lines in vListe 60 then put theOutput cr line 1 to 60 of vListe cr ... into field fListe else put theOutput cr vListe into field fListe end if end Switch end keyUp Jerome Rosat___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Alex, Thank you for your message. I'm not very at ease with messages and the command send but I will test your code. I think it is the good way to not slow down the typing of the user. Jerome Rosat Le 23 oct. 2009 à 00:33, Alex Tweedly a écrit : Would it be practical to break your list into 26 sublists by first letter? That's a pragmatic approach - but I think it's the wrong one. The fundamental problem is that the idea of scanning an entire list at keystroke speed is not robust. Even if splitting into multiple lists works for now, there's no guarantee that it will work tomorrow - when the database doubles in size, or the data becomes skewed because it contains too many people with the same first letter, or or the users demand a similar feature for address as well as surname, or they want to match string anywhere within the name, or What you ought to do (imnsho) is to change the algorithm to one which is inherently responsive, using either 'send' or 'wait-with- messages' to ensure that this matching process does not interfere with responsiveness. In this case, I think it's easier to use wait- with-messages. So in outline each time the match data changes, you restart the matching process the matching process checks a fixed, and relatively small, number of possible matches updates the field showing the user what matches have been found and then allows other things to happen before continuing with the matching. I'd have a single handler that is always called when any changes happens to the user input, which can kick off a new matching process (by sending to the match handler). Then within the handler, I'd periodically check whether there is a pending message to restart a new handler. So a brief version of the whole script would be local sShow, sStart, sData, sFound,sMatch global gData on keyUp matchStringHasChanged pass keyUp end keyUp on matchStringHasChanged send processamatch to me in 0 millisecs end matchStringHasChanged on processamatch local tCount put gData into sData put the text of field Field into sMatch put empty into field Show put empty into sShow repeat for each line L in sData add 1 to tCount if L begins with sMatch then put L CR after sShow end if if tCount mod 100 = 0 then put sShow . CR into field Show wait 0 millisecs with messages if the pendingmessages contains ,processamatch, then put exiting CR after field StatusLog exit processamatch end if end if end repeat put sShow into field Show put Completed the number of lines in sShow CR after field StatusLog end processamatch Note the use of .. to give an indication that work is still in progress and there may be more matches to come. You could easily add refinements to this 1a. if a matching process has completed (rather than exited), and if previous match string was a substring of the new matchstring, then instead of starting with put gData into sData you could instead do put sShow into sData (i.e. re-use the filtered list - but be sure to remember that if you exit before completing, or if the matchstring changes in any other way you need to restart with the whole of gData) 1b. If you do 1a, then if you are *nearly* complete with a match when the matchstring changes, then just go ahead and complete it, so you get to work on the subset. (good luck deciding what *nearly* means :-) btw - I don't think there is any magic 'split'-based method possible here. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme Rosat wrote: Alex, Thank you for your message. I'm not very at ease with messages and the command send but I will test your code. I think it is the good way to not slow down the typing of the user. IMO well worth the time to try it. Alex Tweedly regularly comes up with non-obvious but highly effective solutions. His inventiveness has made many helpful contributions to algorithms explored on this list. My only disappointment with his latest contribution is that it wasn't a three-liner as he usually comes up with. Alex, you're slipping. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme- Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:51:18 AM, you wrote: If some body in the list is looking for a file with names and address (400K lines), I create a file with french name, French, Spanish, Italians, Portuguese first name and address of Geneva in Switzerland. It is possible to download here: http://files.me.com/jrosat/tac1b4 In the state of my tests, here the my fastest code: Since you seem to want to limit the display to 60 lines, here's a much faster version. This takes roughly 90 milliseconds to do an entire list, irrespective of the number of chars. Note as well that your text file is actually delimited by commas rather than tabs. -- time of the filtered list on keyUp local vListe local tTime put the milliseconds into tTime put test1(vNoms) into vListe put the milliseconds - tTime into field fElapsedTime put vListe into field fListe end keyUp function test1 pNoms local vListe local x set the itemdelimiter to comma put empty into vListe put 1 into x repeat for each line theLine in pNoms if item 2 of theLine contains me then put theLine cr after vListe add 1 to x if x 60 then put ... cr after vListe exit repeat end if end if end repeat return vListe end test1 -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Mark, My text file is a raw file. When I open a stack, I create a simpler tab list. Your code is much better for the 1 to 3 chars. But, if the name you search is at the end of the list (for example rosat) it takes more time than my code. Jerome Rosat Le 23 oct. 2009 à 19:13, Mark Wieder a écrit : Jérôme- Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:51:18 AM, you wrote: If some body in the list is looking for a file with names and address (400K lines), I create a file with french name, French, Spanish, Italians, Portuguese first name and address of Geneva in Switzerland. It is possible to download here: http://files.me.com/jrosat/tac1b4 In the state of my tests, here the my “fastest” code: Since you seem to want to limit the display to 60 lines, here's a much faster version. This takes roughly 90 milliseconds to do an entire list, irrespective of the number of chars. Note as well that your text file is actually delimited by commas rather than tabs. -- time of the filtered list on keyUp local vListe local tTime put the milliseconds into tTime put test1(vNoms) into vListe put the milliseconds - tTime into field fElapsedTime put vListe into field fListe end keyUp function test1 pNoms local vListe local x set the itemdelimiter to comma put empty into vListe put 1 into x repeat for each line theLine in pNoms if item 2 of theLine contains me then put theLine cr after vListe add 1 to x if x 60 then put ... cr after vListe exit repeat end if end if end repeat return vListe end test1 -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme- Friday, October 23, 2009, 10:55:26 AM, you wrote: Your code is much better for the 1 to 3 chars. But, if the name you search is at the end of the list (for example rosat) it takes more time than my code. Well, of course. There's no rosat in the data set, so you have to go through the entire thing 400,000 lines than limiting it to 60 hits. In that case yours is faster because you've already trimmed your data set down by the first three chars. But you lose that advantage the first three times through. You might try something like put test1(vNoms) into vListe -- add this: if the number of lines in vListe 60 then put vListe into vNoms end if so that you only go through the whole list once. Search optimization would require foreknowledge of the data set. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Richard Gaskin wrote: Jérôme Rosat wrote: I explained in my message that I wish to filter a list of names and addresses dynamically when I type a name in a field. This list contains 400'000 lines like this: Mme [TAB] DOS SANTOS albertina [TAB] rue GOURGAS 23BIS [TAB] 1205 Genève I made various tests using the repeat for each loop and the filter ... with command. Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field. Obviously, 800 milliseconds to filter a list of 400'000 lines, it is fast. But it is too slow for what I want to do. It would take a time of filtering lower than 300 milliseconds so that the user is not slowed down in his typing. Would it be practical to break your list into 26 sublists by first letter? That's a pragmatic approach - but I think it's the wrong one. The fundamental problem is that the idea of scanning an entire list at keystroke speed is not robust. Even if splitting into multiple lists works for now, there's no guarantee that it will work tomorrow - when the database doubles in size, or the data becomes skewed because it contains too many people with the same first letter, or or the users demand a similar feature for address as well as surname, or they want to match string anywhere within the name, or What you ought to do (imnsho) is to change the algorithm to one which is inherently responsive, using either 'send' or 'wait-with-messages' to ensure that this matching process does not interfere with responsiveness. In this case, I think it's easier to use wait-with-messages. So in outline each time the match data changes, you restart the matching process the matching process checks a fixed, and relatively small, number of possible matches updates the field showing the user what matches have been found and then allows other things to happen before continuing with the matching. I'd have a single handler that is always called when any changes happens to the user input, which can kick off a new matching process (by sending to the match handler). Then within the handler, I'd periodically check whether there is a pending message to restart a new handler. So a brief version of the whole script would be local sShow, sStart, sData, sFound,sMatch global gData on keyUp matchStringHasChanged pass keyUp end keyUp on matchStringHasChanged send processamatch to me in 0 millisecs end matchStringHasChanged on processamatch local tCount put gData into sData put the text of field Field into sMatch put empty into field Show put empty into sShow repeat for each line L in sData add 1 to tCount if L begins with sMatch then put L CR after sShow end if if tCount mod 100 = 0 then put sShow . CR into field Show wait 0 millisecs with messages if the pendingmessages contains ,processamatch, then put exiting CR after field StatusLog exit processamatch end if end if end repeat put sShow into field Show put Completed the number of lines in sShow CR after field StatusLog end processamatch Note the use of .. to give an indication that work is still in progress and there may be more matches to come. You could easily add refinements to this 1a. if a matching process has completed (rather than exited), and if previous match string was a substring of the new matchstring, then instead of starting with put gData into sData you could instead do put sShow into sData (i.e. re-use the filtered list - but be sure to remember that if you exit before completing, or if the matchstring changes in any other way you need to restart with the whole of gData) 1b. If you do 1a, then if you are *nearly* complete with a match when the matchstring changes, then just go ahead and complete it, so you get to work on the subset. (good luck deciding what *nearly* means :-) btw - I don't think there is any magic 'split'-based method possible here. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Alex Tweedly wrote: Note the use of .. to give an indication that work is still in progress and there may be more matches to come. Hmmm that's a bit of a cheap way to do it. Much better to put the number of lines in sData into tDataSize, and then do put 20 - (20 * tCount / tDataSize) into t put sShow char 1 to t of ... CR into field Show -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Thank you Jim, Richard, Brian and Mark, Please excuse me to answer so tardily, I posted a message yesterday, but it was not published in the list. I make a new attempt. I explained in my message that I wish to filter a list of names and addresses dynamically when I type a name in a field. This list contains 400'000 lines like this: Mme [TAB] DOS SANTOS albertina [TAB] rue GOURGAS 23BIS [TAB] 1205 Genève I made various tests using the repeat for each loop and the filter ... with command. Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field. Obviously, 800 milliseconds to filter a list of 400'000 lines, it is fast. But it is too slow for what I want to do. It would take a time of filtering lower than 300 milliseconds so that the user is not slowed down in his typing. Sorry to have been insufficiently precise in my first message. I continue my tests and I will publish the fastest code. Jerome Rosat Le 20 oct. 2009 à 03:41, Jim Ault a écrit : First, what do you mean by 'slow' ?'slower' ? There are many items to consider in the optimization of filtering. -1- do you create the 300,000 lines yourself or inherit them -2- are the lines long strings or short (how many chartacters) -3- are the lines structured or more like descriptions or phrases -4- is the part to be filtered at the beginning or the end of each line -5- there are numerous other considerations depending on the exact task at hand Your request is far to vague to give definitive answers. As Mark Wieder said, please post some example lines of the data and the code you are trying. There are many innovative ways to use the Rev chunking functions that make sure you get speed without sacrificing accuracy ( false hits, false misses ) Looking forward to more details. It is fun to consider the variations possibilities :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme Rosat wrote: I explained in my message that I wish to filter a list of names and addresses dynamically when I type a name in a field. This list contains 400'000 lines like this: Mme [TAB] DOS SANTOS albertina [TAB] rue GOURGAS 23BIS [TAB] 1205 Genève I made various tests using the repeat for each loop and the filter ... with command. Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field. Obviously, 800 milliseconds to filter a list of 400'000 lines, it is fast. But it is too slow for what I want to do. It would take a time of filtering lower than 300 milliseconds so that the user is not slowed down in his typing. Would it be practical to break your list into 26 sublists by first letter? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
On 21 Oct 2009, at 6:00 pm, Jérôme Rosat wrotewrote: Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field How about the filter with only kicks in after the second or third character is typed? The first two characters take a disproportionate amount of time, and probably don't reduce the list size substantially. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
your asking a lot of a chunking function to scan a large body of text between key strokes. Start with the following steps to see if these help. -1- Showing a list of more than 50 hits may not be useful -2- Doing an filter operation with less than 3 chars may not be useful -3- Showing the number of lines (hits) at the top of the field is useful -4- Most likely you will need to pre-index the 400K lines to get more speed Indexing is what data bases do to boost speed. You need to decide what the logic is, such as any char in any string, or words beginning with the user input, etc. Is the 400K set of lines dynamic or static? Does the user type logical words, or phrases? eg. santos -- single word eg. Gourgas -- single word eg. dos santos -- phrase in order eg. rue Gourgas --phrase in order If link tables are required, then you should consider a database, since this is something they do well. if the number of chars in userInput 3 then exit to top put Number of lines = \ the number of lines in filteredBlock into theOutput if the number of lines in filteredBlock 50 then put line 1 to 10 of block cr MORE after theOutput The fewer characters in the block of lines to be filtered, the better. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Jérôme Rosat wrote: Thank you Jim, Richard, Brian and Mark, Please excuse me to answer so tardily, I posted a message yesterday, but it was not published in the list. I make a new attempt. I explained in my message that I wish to filter a list of names and addresses dynamically when I type a name in a field. This list contains 400'000 lines like this: Mme [TAB] DOS SANTOS albertina [TAB] rue GOURGAS 23BIS [TAB] 1205 Genève I made various tests using the repeat for each loop and the filter ... with command. Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field. Obviously, 800 milliseconds to filter a list of 400'000 lines, it is fast. But it is too slow for what I want to do. It would take a time of filtering lower than 300 milliseconds so that the user is not slowed down in his typing. Sorry to have been insufficiently precise in my first message. I continue my tests and I will publish the fastest code. Jerome Rosat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to filter a big list
I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? Thanks. Jerome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Bonjour Jérôme, you could achieve better results by converting this list to a SQLite database. If you want to keep using strings for this, then I suppose you could use some clever combination of sort by each to sort out things by specific columns. You can also use RegEx to find the chunks you want, but I believe it won't be that fast. And last but not least, if this is not a product but a tool for your use only, or if you're only deploying on unix like systems, why not dumping this to a text file and using the shell() with grep? That will be the fastest solution. andre On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? Thanks. Jerome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme, Are you applying the filter to a text field? If so, try temporarily saving the field to a variable, applying the filter to the variable, then saving the variable back to the field. The speed should increase dramatically. If you're already doing this, I'm afraid I don't have another suggestion. Chris On Oct 19, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Jérôme Rosat wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? Thanks. Jerome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? What filter pattern are you using? I have found filter to be very fast even with large lists, provided the filter pattern is simple. e.g. filter with *blue* is fast but filter with * tab * tab *blue* will be slow. If this is the sort of thing you are trying, then I suggest a preliminary fast filter to get the overall length down, then maybe changing to a repeat for each loop to refine the filter. And as Chris said, make sure you are always operating on a variable, not the contents of a field. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Thank you Sarah, Chris and Andre, I use already a variable and my filter pattern is *[' -] myString *. I'm going to try with a SQLite database. Le 19 oct. 2009 à 23:49, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? What filter pattern are you using? I have found filter to be very fast even with large lists, provided the filter pattern is simple. e.g. filter with *blue* is fast but filter with * tab * tab *blue* will be slow. If this is the sort of thing you are trying, then I suggest a preliminary fast filter to get the overall length down, then maybe changing to a repeat for each loop to refine the filter. And as Chris said, make sure you are always operating on a variable, not the contents of a field. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme- Monday, October 19, 2009, 3:51:30 PM, you wrote: I use already a variable and my filter pattern is *[' -] myString *. Can you post the code you're using? Do you have enough physical memory to hold the entire list without page swapping? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
I would suspect that the leading * is causing the most slowdown. That is going to force the filter command to search the entire line every time, since the ['-] portion could be anywhere. Switching to SQLLite could work, but you are going to have to completely reformat your data. If you just throw your lines into records in a database, the problem will be the same. Maybe there is a higher level solution, for example: 1) Move your searchable strings to the beginning of each line (filter on myString* will be much faster) 2) Sort your data and process it in chunks, showing the results as they come in (total time will be the same, but better user experience) 3) Try using lineOffset() to find one match at a time? HTH Thank you Sarah, Chris and Andre, I use already a variable and my filter pattern is *[' -] myString *. I'm going to try with a SQLite database. Le 19 oct. 2009 à 23:49, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? What filter pattern are you using? I have found filter to be very fast even with large lists, provided the filter pattern is simple. e.g. filter with *blue* is fast but filter with * tab * tab *blue* will be slow. If this is the sort of thing you are trying, then I suggest a preliminary fast filter to get the overall length down, then maybe changing to a repeat for each loop to refine the filter. And as Chris said, make sure you are always operating on a variable, not the contents of a field. Cheers, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme Rosat wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? RegEx is a complex subsystem designed for ease of use more than performance. Depending on what you want to do, you may find that repeat for each will be your fastest option (at least until Alex Tweedly chimes in with a three-line solution using split g). What does your data look like, and what are you looking for in it? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Jérôme Rosat wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the filter ... with command. It's slow. I try the Repeat for each loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the filter ... with command and to force RunRev to check only one item of the line and not the whole line with the filterPattern ? First, what do you mean by 'slow' ?'slower' ? There are many items to consider in the optimization of filtering. -1- do you create the 300,000 lines yourself or inherit them -2- are the lines long strings or short (how many chartacters) -3- are the lines structured or more like descriptions or phrases -4- is the part to be filtered at the beginning or the end of each line -5- there are numerous other considerations depending on the exact task at hand Your request is far to vague to give definitive answers. As Mark Wieder said, please post some example lines of the data and the code you are trying. There are many innovative ways to use the Rev chunking functions that make sure you get speed without sacrificing accuracy ( false hits, false misses ) Looking forward to more details. It is fun to consider the variations possibilities :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter by Item and What gives with my field?
On 26.07.09 at 16:23 -0700 Tom Cole apparently wrote: Dear Group, I have two items that I hope someone can help on. One is very straightforward: I need to filter a field by the items. That is, I have a field with zillions of records with four items (comma delimited) itemone,itemtwo,itemthree,itemfour ... Second, I have a field that is full of TAB delimited records like this: Southern Arizona Trip TAB 5/27/1973 TAB This was the trip when we got two flat tires in the middle of nowhere. ... If you have zillions of records, then you should possibly consider using a real database engine to store the data. Then fetching 3 columns in specific order or any sort of filtering and data selection becomes trivial. You don't say how many records you have in the second case, but here database could also make things simpler, particularly the searching. In this case, displaying one record at a time with each item in its own field could be most optimal. For list view, you could have a truncated version of the long text with ellipsis (...) at the end. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Filter by Item and What gives with my field?
Dear Group, I have two items that I hope someone can help on. One is very straightforward: I need to filter a field by the items. That is, I have a field with zillions of records with four items (comma delimited) itemone,itemtwo,itemthree,itemfour I want itemfour to disappear after I put the field into a variable. The problem is that item four is never the same, so I can't filter by a specific string. I'm sure there must be a way to just have all of item four go poof. Second, I have a field that is full of TAB delimited records like this: Southern Arizona Trip TAB 5/27/1973 TAB This was the trip when we got two flat tires in the middle of nowhere. Just three items each. Sometimes, however, item three is a whole ten- page essay with paragraph returns but no tabs of course. When I pasted all of these records in a field, not everything appears there if you scroll through it. However, if you script: answer fld journal, you see the complete version. If you copy the journal field to the clipboard it is also complete. But you cannot SEARCH the field for the things in it because they're hidden. Is there some field property that is truncating the field in various places? I feel that I am back to hypercard with the 30,000 character limit. What gives? I want to see all of the stuff I wrote without copying it and pasting it somewhere. It's so strange to see only a small part of what you wrote and then to copy the text and find that it is, indeed, there. Thanks, Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter by Item and What gives with my field?
I have two items that I hope someone can help on. One is very straightforward: I need to filter a field by the items. That is, I have a field with zillions of records with four items (comma delimited) itemone,itemtwo,itemthree,itemfour I want itemfour to disappear after I put the field into a variable. The problem is that item four is never the same, so I can't filter by a specific string. I'm sure there must be a way to just have all of item four go poof. set the columnDelimiter to comma split tData by column delete variable tData[4] combine tData by column Second, I have a field that is full of TAB delimited records like this: Southern Arizona Trip TAB 5/27/1973 TAB This was the trip when we got two flat tires in the middle of nowhere. Just three items each. Sometimes, however, item three is a whole ten-page essay with paragraph returns but no tabs of course. When I pasted all of these records in a field, not everything appears there if you scroll through it. However, if you script: answer fld journal, you see the complete version. If you copy the journal field to the clipboard it is also complete. But you cannot SEARCH the field for the things in it because they're hidden. Is there some field property that is truncating the field in various places? I feel that I am back to hypercard with the 30,000 character limit. What gives? A couple of things: If you want to keep one record per line, you will need to replace the returns in item 3 with something else. Use a single weird character or *CR* or whatever you like. Then you can replace it back again for viewing editing. Fields have a maximum number of characters per line - I think it is 65535. After that, you will start seeing weird things happening to the display, although as you say, the data is still there. The best solution is to store the data in a custom property instead of a field and have the data for a single record displayed in 3 different fields when required. If the third item still ends up with lines longer than 65535 it may not matter if the field wraps. If it still does mess up the display, then you might have to add some extra returns when displaying it. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter by Item and What gives with my field?
Tom- Sunday, July 26, 2009, 4:23:36 PM, you wrote: I want itemfour to disappear after I put the field into a variable. The problem is that item four is never the same, so I can't filter by a specific string. I'm sure there must be a way to just have all of item four go poof. I'm a bit caffeine-deprived today, so I can't think of how to do this in a single line of code. I'd go with the obvious: put field someField into tTempVar -- for speed repeat for each line tLine in tTempVar put item 1 to 3 of tLine cr after tVar end repeat Hopefully someone else will come up with something more clever. Second, I have a field that is full of TAB delimited records like this: Maybe check the dontWrap of the field? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter by Item and What gives with my field?
Sarah- Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:22:50 PM, you wrote: delete variable tData[4] ! That was the part I couldn't come up with... The only danger with this is that the first three items in each line have to define a unique key - any duplicates will be dropped, but that's the array-based approach I was aiming for. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
filter not working
I am having a problem with 'filter'. I'm passing this tab return delimited data (as an array)... *SAMPLE*7/2/09 2 We don't ship kitties to Hong Kong No dogs 7/2/09 1 we don't do dogs This one7/2/09 3 This one is that oneAnd this one has paragraphs in the field. using this command put justThese(gSnips,1) into tList to this function: function justThese pSnips,pWhich combine pSnips by return and tab put tabpWhichtab into tThing filter pSnips with tThing split pSnips by return and tab return the keys of pSnips end justThese which always returns empty because the filter command always puts empty back into the variable. What am I missing? I confirmed that the error still occurs without the numToChar(8) (which apparently won't show up here), which I'm using to swap out CRs in that third record. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter not working
Paul, the filter command may need some wildcards, otherwise it will filter out any lines which contain more than just the filter expression, so: filter pSnips with * tThing * Best, Mark On 3 Jul 2009, at 20:39, pwf wrote: I am having a problem with 'filter'. I'm passing this tab return delimited data (as an array)... *SAMPLE*7/2/09 2 We don't ship kitties to Hong Kong No dogs 7/2/09 1 we don't do dogs This one7/2/09 3 This one is that oneAnd this one has paragraphs in the field. using this command put justThese(gSnips,1) into tList to this function: function justThese pSnips,pWhich combine pSnips by return and tab put tabpWhichtab into tThing filter pSnips with tThing split pSnips by return and tab return the keys of pSnips end justThese which always returns empty because the filter command always puts empty back into the variable. What am I missing? I confirmed that the error still occurs without the numToChar(8) (which apparently won't show up here), which I'm using to swap out CRs in that third record. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Filter Image Without Type on OSX?
Hello List: Is it possible to use any kind of wildcard with file filtering on OSX? I have several JPEG images that show no file type (just the empty boxes) which often happens when Preview gets ahold of them. Then when trying to filter a list of images in an answer file dialog using JPEG, the aforementioned JPEGs are grayed out and not selectable. Is there any way to work around this? (Rev 3.5) Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter Image Without Type on OSX?
Answering my own question: Is it possible to use any kind of wildcard with file filtering on OSX? I have several JPEG images that show no file type (just the empty boxes) which often happens when Preview gets ahold of them. Then when trying to filter a list of images in an answer file dialog using JPEG, the aforementioned JPEGs are grayed out and not selectable. Is there any way to work around this? Guess I have to use answer file with type Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter Image Without Type on OSX?
Hi Scott, If you are absolutely sure that all of the files are going to be JPEG then just rename the files so that they all have .jpg put onto the end of them. Then perform your process. I hope this helps! Rick On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Answering my own question: Is it possible to use any kind of wildcard with file filtering on OSX? I have several JPEG images that show no file type (just the empty boxes) which often happens when Preview gets ahold of them. Then when trying to filter a list of images in an answer file dialog using JPEG, the aforementioned JPEGs are grayed out and not selectable. Is there any way to work around this? Guess I have to use answer file with type Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
filter
Does anyone know why I get no data in a variable when I filter more than once? In the following, either of the filters works alone with the other commented out, but together I get no data. on mouseup put fld sortfield into cat --FILTER #1 put 12/15/1971 into rat filter cat with *rat* put cat into fld sortfield --FILTER #2 put elliot and cooper roads into dog filter cat with *dog* put cat into fld sortfield put fld sortfield into cat end mouseUp Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter
put one cr two cr owl into tList filter tList with o* gives you owl one Filtering that 2 line list with filter tList with t* will give you an empty list. The first filter removed anything that would match the 2nd filter, therefore the list is empty. Bernard On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Tom Cole tom.c...@asu.edu wrote: Does anyone know why I get no data in a variable when I filter more than once? In the following, either of the filters works alone with the other commented out, but together I get no data. on mouseup put fld sortfield into cat --FILTER #1 put 12/15/1971 into rat filter cat with *rat* put cat into fld sortfield --FILTER #2 put elliot and cooper roads into dog filter cat with *dog* put cat into fld sortfield put fld sortfield into cat end mouseUp Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
Thanks Jim - good to confirm that there is no way to escape chars for filter expressions. I guess this is the sort of thing that should be posted as a note to the dictionary. 2009/5/2 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com The technique I have used in the past is to do a replace [ with † in blockOfLines replace ] with ^ in blockOfLines filter blockOfLines without tr††*^^ --and in case there are kept lines that had the '[]' chars replace † with [ in blockOfLines replace ^ with ] in blockOfLines ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
I think this does what you require: put tr[1] cr after tList put tr(2) cr after tList put tr[3] cr after tList put tr[a] cr after tList put td[1] cr after tList put tra[1] cr after tList filter tList without [t][r]?[0-9]] put tList Try playing around with the 2nd letter of the filter expression, and using with/without. It seems to work for me. Unless I really don't understand the problem :-) Bernard On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? 2009/4/24 David Bovill da...@architex.tv Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
This would usually work : put theader[1] cr after tList put th(1) cr after tList put th(2) cr after tList put th[3] cr after tList put tbody[1] cr after tList put tr[1] cr after tList put td[2] cr after tList put tra[3] cr after tList put tr[11] cr after tList filter tList without th?[0-9]] put tList But it is possible that there are more than 9 rows - in which case it will fail. What you really want to do is filter for tr[*] but can't because you can't escape the [ using \[. Thanks for the input - just wanted to check as there may be extra syntax not listed in the docs. I think the only real solution is a simple repeat loop - it may even be faster than filter, as many test have shown previously. So: repeat for each line testLine in tList if token 1 of testLine is th then put testLine CR after filteredList end if end repeat put filteredList Tip: the use of token instead of word is often really useful for parsing output from computers - think of tokens as the equivalent of works but for the way Rev thinks about scripts. 2009/5/3 Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com I think this does what you require: put tr[1] cr after tList put tr(2) cr after tList put tr[3] cr after tList put tr[a] cr after tList put td[1] cr after tList put tra[1] cr after tList filter tList without [t][r]?[0-9]] put tList Try playing around with the 2nd letter of the filter expression, and using with/without. It seems to work for me. Unless I really don't understand the problem :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
does this work? filter tXmlText with *tr[[2]] When you wrote to the list about this problem before, I did a quick test and that seemed to work, so I thought maybe I don't get the problem. I'm not sure if it will work using [[*]] Bernard On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? 2009/4/24 David Bovill da...@architex.tv Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
Afraid not :( 2009/5/2 Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com does this work? filter tXmlText with *tr[[2]] When you wrote to the list about this problem before, I did a quick test and that seemed to work, so I thought maybe I don't get the problem. I'm not sure if it will work using [[*]] Bernard On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? 2009/4/24 David Bovill da...@architex.tv Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
The technique I have used in the past is to do a replace [ with † in blockOfLines replace ] with ^ in blockOfLines filter blockOfLines without tr††*^^ --and in case there are kept lines that had the '[]' chars replace † with [ in blockOfLines replace ^ with ] in blockOfLines Hope this helps Jim Ault Las Vegas On May 2, 2009, at 4:26 AM, David Bovill wrote: Afraid not :( 2009/5/2 Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com does this work? filter tXmlText with *tr[[2]] When you wrote to the list about this problem before, I did a quick test and that seemed to work, so I thought maybe I don't get the problem. I'm not sure if it will work using [[*]] Bernard On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:11 PM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? 2009/4/24 David Bovill da...@architex.tv Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? 2009/4/24 David Bovill da...@architex.tv Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:11 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? I had a similar case where I needed to include * in my filter string. I ended up doing a replace, then filtering, then putting the *'s back again. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Must be a way: escaping filter patterns
OK - thanks! 2009/5/1 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:11 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Still trying to figure this out - my hack ends up failing - I've returned a list of child names from XML, and wish to filter out all the tr elements which appear like tr[1], tr[2]. So I want to filter using tr[*], but as [ is a special char... andthe usual \[ does not work for escaping? Any ideas? I had a similar case where I needed to include * in my filter string. I ended up doing a replace, then filtering, then putting the *'s back again. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Escaping filter patterns
Any one know the way to escape characters such as [ in patterns for the filter expression? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Gotta love reframes! Cheers, Luis. On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:03, Randall Reetz wrote: Sorry. I love this stuff. Do you remember the indiana jones scene where the ninja guy is comming at him with swinging knives... And he just pulls out a gun and shoots him? That is what great ideas do. -Original Message- From: Luis l...@anachreon.co.uk To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Randall- Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:00:44 AM, you wrote: This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! A lot of cognitive science at work here. And Bill Atkinson is on board as well. He bent my ear about Numenta for half an hour straight a while back. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! Compression in this context means the reduction towards general or prototypical forms that are then stored with modifiers that enumerate the delta between a specific incarnation and that prototype. Randall On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Randall- Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:40:58 PM, you wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. Sounds like you may be interested in what Numenta's up to... www.numenta.com -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ot] fractal graphic filter
received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...). Fractalius plugin for photoshop extracts hidden fractal texture of an image. The effect is really cl! http://www.redfieldplugins.com/filterFractalius.htm Now I wonder what is the algorithm behind this... Any ideas ;-)? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...). Fractalius plugin for photoshop extracts hidden fractal texture of an image. The effect is really cl! http://www.redfieldplugins.com/filterFractalius.htm Now I wonder what is the algorithm behind this... Any ideas ;-)? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:42 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? Yes, it's in their FAQ page, there are no plans to make Mac versions. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ot] fractal graphic filter
The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Randall- Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:40:58 PM, you wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. Sounds like you may be interested in what Numenta's up to... www.numenta.com -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Sorry. I love this stuff. Do you remember the indiana jones scene where the ninja guy is comming at him with swinging knives... And he just pulls out a gun and shoots him? That is what great ideas do. -Original Message- From: Luis l...@anachreon.co.uk To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Filter JPEG files in MACOSX
Filter jpeg files in MACOSX How can I filter the files created by the application Preview and saved as JPEG? According to the Rev documentation I should use either there two commands: answer file SELEZIONA of type JPEG answer file SELEZIONA with filter JPEGs,*.jpg Unfortunately both of them do not work .As far as I know, the first one does not work because the application Preview from Apple does not set the filetype to JPEG even if you choose to save the image as JPEG. (crazy) The second one does not work because even if the file has the extension .jpg, in the contextual menu the extension of that file disappear. Why? To me, this file type thing in MacOSX is a mess. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter JPEG files in MACOSX
Bonjour Paolo, answer file Select the images you wish to view: with type JPEG Images|jpg|JPEG works well here even with files saved in Preview that, effectively, lets the filetype empty as it is visible using File Buddy. Suppressing file extension and turning off 'Show extensions' in Finder prefs still allows to have this kind of file showing up in the answer file dialog. I think it's due to the formulation abobe that adds 'JPEG Images'. Le 27 déc. 08 à 16:24, paolo a écrit : Filter jpeg files in MACOSX How can I filter the files created by the application Preview and saved as JPEG? According to the Rev documentation I should use either there two commands: answer file SELEZIONA of type JPEG answer file SELEZIONA with filter JPEGs,*.jpg Unfortunately both of them do not work .As far as I know, the first one does not work because the application Preview from Apple does not set the filetype to JPEG even if you choose to save the image as JPEG. (crazy) The second one does not work because even if the file has the extension .jpg, in the contextual menu the extension of that file disappear. Why? Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chato...@sosmartsoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
answer file with filter ???
Hi all, After having checked the doc, and drink 2 coffees, I'm stuck this morning with this simple one line of code: answer file Choose a ICS file... with filter ICS,*.ics the filtering doesn't work at all ? Well, did try with different suffix and same behavior... Rev 3.0 on Tiger Any hints ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Hi Thierry, On Mac, a file type is expected, while on Windows a file extension is expected. You need to check the platform and then use the right command. For example, for Mac: answer file Choose a ICS file... with filter ICS,ICS I have put a space after the ICS file type, because file types always have to be 4 characters long. The first item in the filter is just a command, which appears in a menu if you use multiple filters. On Windows: answer file Choose a ICS file... with filter ICS,*ics. A much easier way is to use the answer file with type command: answer file with type ICS|*ics|ICS This form can be used on both Mac and Windows. Note the space after the file type again. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum Color Converter has been updated! Get it at http://colorconverter.economy-x-talk.com ! On 19 nov 2008, at 09:50, Thierry wrote: Hi all, After having checked the doc, and drink 2 coffees, I'm stuck this morning with this simple one line of code: answer file Choose a ICS file... with filter ICS,*.ics the filtering doesn't work at all ? Well, did try with different suffix and same behavior... Rev 3.0 on Tiger Any hints ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Le 19 nov. 08 à 10:43, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Mac, a file type is expected, while on Windows a file extension is expected. You need to check the platform and then use the right command. Thanks Mark ! Here is about the confusion: From the Dictionary Doc: - example topic: ... answer file (field Prompt) of type RSTK answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg a bit further, we can read: The way file types are specified depends on the platform: Filtering for Mac OS: You can use either with filter or of type.. - But, your examples do not help me in this case :-( In fact, the files *.ics I'm looking for in a file open dialog, can come from different apps and from different systems. ( just to make it easy ) and, these .ics files are by now, just plain text files coming from a Linux system. Looking the file Creator and Type with FileInfo, I only have and So, does this means I have the choice to *not* do any filtering ? Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Thierry, As I wrote in my previous e-mail, you should use WITH type and not OF type. answer file with type ICS|*ics|ICS You can add additional filters: answer file with type ICS|*ics|ICS or type All Files|*|* I believe that the ICS type defined as ICS|*ics|ICS should work fine, because the file extension is right, but if that doesn't work, you can choose All Files from the option menu in the file dialog. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum Color Converter has been updated! Get it at http://colorconverter.economy-x-talk.com ! On 19 nov 2008, at 11:45, Thierry wrote: Thanks Mark ! Here is about the confusion: From the Dictionary Doc: - example topic: ... answer file (field Prompt) of type RSTK answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg a bit further, we can read: The way file types are specified depends on the platform: Filtering for Mac OS: You can use either with filter or of type.. - But, your examples do not help me in this case :-( In fact, the files *.ics I'm looking for in a file open dialog, can come from different apps and from different systems. ( just to make it easy ) and, these .ics files are by now, just plain text files coming from a Linux system. Looking the file Creator and Type with FileInfo, I only have and So, does this means I have the choice to *not* do any filtering ? Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Bonjour Thierry, Le 19 nov. 08 à 10:43, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Mac, a file type is expected, while on Windows a file extension is expected. You need to check the platform and then use the right command. Thanks Mark ! Here is about the confusion: From the Dictionary Doc: - example topic: ... answer file (field Prompt) of type RSTK answer file empty with filter JPEGs,*.jpg a bit further, we can read: The way file types are specified depends on the platform: Filtering for Mac OS: You can use either with filter or of type.. - But, your examples do not help me in this case :-( In fact, the files *.ics I'm looking for in a file open dialog, can come from different apps and from different systems. ( just to make it easy ) and, these .ics files are by now, just plain text files coming from a Linux system. Looking the file Creator and Type with FileInfo, I only have and So, does this means I have the choice to *not* do any filtering ? If you opmit the FILETYPE part, the system will only show files that have the supplied suffix, even on OS X: answer file with type ICS|*ics| Will work for you :-) Thierry Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Bonjour, Thierry: answer file with type ICS|*ics| Will work for you :-) Hmmm, try differents solutions from Mark and You, and always get it wrong So, it's not my day :-( I think i'm going to check the answer dialog stack... May be corrupted ? No no, just a typo we did not notice so far :-) Please omit the asteriks * in the suffix: answer file with type ICS|ics| Merci beaucoup A votre service! Thierry Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Please omit the asteriks * in the suffix: answer file with type ICS|ics| and even few chars less: answer file Select a ICS file... with type |ics Et voila ... It works :-) Hmm, do I need to say that having the solution I don't see how one could come to it by reading the Docs ? Anyway, great list once again and thanks to all to be here. Herzlichen Dank, Klaus ! Dann habe ich mir jetzt eine Kaffeepause verdient :-) Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
Bonjour Thierry, Please omit the asteriks * in the suffix: answer file with type ICS|ics| and even few chars less: answer file Select a ICS file... with type |ics Et voila ... It works :-) Please also check bug #6433 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6433 Hmm, do I need to say that having the solution I don't see how one could come to it by reading the Docs ? This is in the docs (more or less clearly ;-) Anyway, great list once again and thanks to all to be here. Herzlichen Dank, Klaus ! Dann habe ich mir jetzt eine Kaffeepause verdient :-) Jawohl :-) Thierry Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file with filter ???
answer file with type ICS|*ics| Will work for you :-) Hmmm, try differents solutions from Mark and You, and always get it wrong So, it's not my day :-( I think i'm going to check the answer dialog stack... May be corrupted ? Merci beaucoup Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
evaluated string for filter doesn't work
Field extension contains .jpg script has put (* fld extension) into tFilter filter tFiles with (quote tFilter quote) put tFiles into fld Listing result nada! Why? filter tFiles with *.jpg works and put tFilter returns *.jpg I tried this too: put (quote * fld extension quote) into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter put tFiles into fld Listing still nada ?? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: evaluated string for filter doesn't work
You are adding quote chars to the filter string so that quote .jpgquote would have to actually be in the the line to be a 'hit' Most file names do not contain quotes. -- try filter tFiles with tFilter or filter tFiles with (* fld extension) or if you want to get more confused --- put music.jpg into tFiles put *.jpg into tFilter get ( filter tFiles with quote tFilter quote) do filter tFiles with quote tFilter quote put tFiles - Jim Ault Las Vegas On 7/28/08 8:25 PM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Field extension contains .jpg script has put (* fld extension) into tFilter filter tFiles with (quote tFilter quote) put tFiles into fld Listing result nada! Why? filter tFiles with *.jpg works and put tFilter returns *.jpg I tried this too: put (quote * fld extension quote) into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter put tFiles into fld Listing still nada ?? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: evaluated string for filter doesn't work
Aum Swami, I use this all the time in our stacks, I use double asterisks like: put *.jpg* into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter and it works. Andre On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Field extension contains .jpg script has put (* fld extension) into tFilter filter tFiles with (quote tFilter quote) put tFiles into fld Listing result nada! Why? filter tFiles with *.jpg works and put tFilter returns *.jpg I tried this too: put (quote * fld extension quote) into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter put tFiles into fld Listing still nada ?? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: evaluated string for filter doesn't work
yep that was it... I was using the detailed files and forgot to add the * on the end Andre Garzia wrote: Aum Swami, I use this all the time in our stacks, I use double asterisks like: put *.jpg* into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter and it works. Andre On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Field extension contains .jpg script has put (* fld extension) into tFilter filter tFiles with (quote tFilter quote) put tFiles into fld Listing result nada! Why? filter tFiles with *.jpg works and put tFilter returns *.jpg I tried this too: put (quote * fld extension quote) into tFilter filter tFiles with tFilter put tFiles into fld Listing still nada ?? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
is there any way to know what file type user selects in ask file with filter dialog ? I need to specify different handlers for file Save as, and now am first asking user to select the type of a desired output (i.e. raw binary, ascii text, png image or ppm image) and next opening ask file dialog to get the path for saving the data. But I know this is not good, because users are used to a single dialog for file saving where they choose save as type and the data is processed without any additional disturbances... The problem is that the selection of ask file dialog is returned in 'it' variable but the selected type of file in the dropdown list of that dialog is not returned in any readable way, or is it?.. Best regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
viktoras didziulis wrote: is there any way to know what file type user selects in ask file with filter dialog ? I need to specify different handlers for file Save as, and now am first asking user to select the type of a desired output (i.e. raw binary, ascii text, png image or ppm image) and next opening ask file dialog to get the path for saving the data. But I know this is not good, because users are used to a single dialog for file saving where they choose save as type and the data is processed without any additional disturbances... The problem is that the selection of ask file dialog is returned in 'it' variable but the selected type of file in the dropdown list of that dialog is not returned in any readable way, or is it?.. Check the result after the user selects a file. The tag is in there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
Jacqueline, Thanks for the suggestion, still 'the result' after execution is empty. It would probably contain something if path selection failed. The other 'result' (path stored in 'it') does not always contain an extension. If user types it in, or chooses from a list of existing file names, then it is there. But otherwise if user provides file name without an extension, script has to check what was the file type selected, appends correct extension and directs output to a necessary processing handler. It knows file type just because it asked about it before asking for the path. Now I guess if I wish to avoid displaying a chain of dialogs, I have to design own custom askFile() function or handler. The only role of ask file with type or ask file with filter that is described in the dictionary seems to be limited to displaying existing filenames whose types match the one selected in the file type list... All the best! Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: viktoras didziulis wrote: is there any way to know what file type user selects in ask file with filter dialog ? I need to specify different handlers for file Save as, and now am first asking user to select the type of a desired output (i.e. raw binary, ascii text, png image or ppm image) and next opening ask file dialog to get the path for saving the data. But I know this is not good, because users are used to a single dialog for file saving where they choose save as type and the data is processed without any additional disturbances... The problem is that the selection of ask file dialog is returned in 'it' variable but the selected type of file in the dropdown list of that dialog is not returned in any readable way, or is it?.. Check the result after the user selects a file. The tag is in there. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
viktoras didziulis wrote: Jacqueline, Thanks for the suggestion, still 'the result' after execution is empty. It would probably contain something if path selection failed. The other 'result' (path stored in 'it') does not always contain an extension. If user types it in, or chooses from a list of existing file names, then it is there. But otherwise if user provides file name without an extension, script has to check what was the file type selected, appends correct extension and directs output to a necessary processing handler. I misread your post, I didn't notice you were using filter. But I just did a test using with type and it works. on mouseUp ask file Export picture as: with type JPEG File|jpg|JPEG or type GIF File|gif|GIFf put the result into tResult put it tResult end mouseUp I typed in a file name without an extension. The message box contained the path to the file and JPEG File. Will that work for you? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
Thanks A LOT! With type it the result works now! All the best! Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: viktoras didziulis wrote: Jacqueline, Thanks for the suggestion, still 'the result' after execution is empty. It would probably contain something if path selection failed. The other 'result' (path stored in 'it') does not always contain an extension. If user types it in, or chooses from a list of existing file names, then it is there. But otherwise if user provides file name without an extension, script has to check what was the file type selected, appends correct extension and directs output to a necessary processing handler. I misread your post, I didn't notice you were using filter. But I just did a test using with type and it works. on mouseUp ask file Export picture as: with type JPEG File|jpg|JPEG or type GIF File|gif|GIFf put the result into tResult put it tResult end mouseUp I typed in a file name without an extension. The message box contained the path to the file and JPEG File. Will that work for you? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ask file with filter/type - how to read the selected type ?
You have to use the ask file with type form to know the file type selected within the dialogue, for example: on mouseUp ask file with type PNG file|png|PNGf or type Plain file|txt|TEXT put it the result end mouseUp message box: /Users/bvg/Desktop/file.txt Plain file Most likely ask file with filter will be marked as obsolete or discontinued in a not too distant future... Have Fun Björnke On 10 Jun 2008, at 17:57, viktoras didziulis wrote: Jacqueline, Thanks for the suggestion, still 'the result' after execution is empty. It would probably contain something if path selection failed. The other 'result' (path stored in 'it') does not always contain an extension. If user types it in, or chooses from a list of existing file names, then it is there. But otherwise if user provides file name without an extension, script has to check what was the file type selected, appends correct extension and directs output to a necessary processing handler. It knows file type just because it asked about it before asking for the path. Now I guess if I wish to avoid displaying a chain of dialogs, I have to design own custom askFile() function or handler. The only role of ask file with type or ask file with filter that is described in the dictionary seems to be limited to displaying existing filenames whose types match the one selected in the file type list... All the best! Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: viktoras didziulis wrote: is there any way to know what file type user selects in ask file with filter dialog ? I need to specify different handlers for file Save as, and now am first asking user to select the type of a desired output (i.e. raw binary, ascii text, png image or ppm image) and next opening ask file dialog to get the path for saving the data. But I know this is not good, because users are used to a single dialog for file saving where they choose save as type and the data is processed without any additional disturbances... The problem is that the selection of ask file dialog is returned in 'it' variable but the selected type of file in the dropdown list of that dialog is not returned in any readable way, or is it?.. Check the result after the user selects a file. The tag is in there. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Filter command
How do you escape chars with the filter command? Specifically what do you do if you want to filter lines that contain the * character? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 8:59 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you escape chars with the filter command? Specifically what do you do if you want to filter lines that contain the * character? I replace them with something else, then filter, than change them back again. e.g. replace * with () in myData filter myData with * myFilter * replace () with * in myData Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter command
I think this works as well? filter shellResult with *[*]* 2008/5/26 Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 8:59 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you escape chars with the filter command? Specifically what do you do if you want to filter lines that contain the * character? I replace them with something else, then filter, than change them back again. e.g. replace * with () in myData filter myData with * myFilter * replace () with * in myData Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Just in case you want to hear more of George, you can visit his site at georgebancroft.net. I've posted some of the new stuff we are working on for the 2nd CD (full band this time). Don't mean to advertise here but while we were on the subject of music len ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Klaus: no MP3s at your site? ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to upload them again, but I've got some at http://cdbaby.com/cd/alephnull if anyone cares... Wow! About half my collection is world music, and your wonderful tunes will fit right in. Great stuff, Mark! Is there an option to purchase a download rather than wait for a physical CD? PS: Really nice cover art. Gorgeous. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Richard- Klaus: no MP3s at your site? ...and no mp3s on my site either... apparently JaguarPC has been fiddling with server things again and lost all my website files so I'll have to upload them again, but I've got some at http://cdbaby.com/cd/alephnull if anyone cares... -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Richard- Is there an option to purchase a download rather than wait for a physical CD? Not that I'm aware of. I don't think cdbaby has that capability, but then I've never really followed up on it to find out. PS: Really nice cover art. Gorgeous. Yes, thanks. I'm quite pleased with the way that turned out. Couple of spectacular designs from Hossein's father, who's a rug designer in Iran. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
On Feb 19, 2008 10:22 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just bought myself a new (used) open hole, sterling head
flute ('cuz I always wanted one)
Sorry, but the mention of jazz and flute in the same thread immediately
brings to mind the scene from Anchorman with Will Ferrell.
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Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
You (all) should!
I played flute piccolo (and recorder... and piano for about a year
and a half) from 5th grade through high school and am just now picking
it up again. Just bought myself a new (used) open hole, sterling head
flute ('cuz I always wanted one) and had my picc serviced and am
working up the courage to call a local teacher to begin private
lessons again.
It feels good... the chops do come back (and for playing the picc,
THAT'S really saying something!).
Musically yours,
Judy
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... I really should start again. Good for the soul.
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Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Cool bass site! I believe Mark Wieder is also an earth shaker - any others here? Did both my undergrad and master's in music, so I was playing quite a variety of instruments. Played upright bass for a bit: poorly. :P Spent more time with the electric bass—some jazz, mostly rock—but haven't had the time to continue for the last decade. It's still in a closet somewhere. I really should start again. Good for the soul. J. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
J. Downs wrote: Cool bass site! I believe Mark Wieder is also an earth shaker - any others here? Well I built a recording studio. Let's see...we've got a bass or two, a drummer... any guitarist and/or keyboard players? Maybe we can create a virutal gig using Rev? len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
filter without empty
Hi there, just spend some hours debugging some otherwise clean code for a couple of hours just to discover that: ... put one numtochar(0) two into newstring filter newstring without empty put newstring ... gives: one! I just wanted to remove empty lines, so is this correct behaviour? Or should I bugzilla this one? No problems with numtochar(1). Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter without empty
I think using engine opertaions on data that contains nulls is a bit of a no-no. I believe (though happy to be corrected) that Rev uses C- style null terminated strings internally, so nulls will often produce 'unexpected results'. Best, Mark On 14 Feb 2008, at 12:45, Klaus Major wrote: Hi there, just spend some hours debugging some otherwise clean code for a couple of hours just to discover that: ... put one numtochar(0) two into newstring filter newstring without empty put newstring ... gives: one! I just wanted to remove empty lines, so is this correct behaviour? Or should I bugzilla this one? No problems with numtochar(1). Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter without empty
Hi Mark, I think using engine opertaions on data that contains nulls is a bit of a no-no. I believe (though happy to be corrected) that Rev uses C-style null terminated strings internally, so nulls will often produce 'unexpected results'. Hm, I have been using numtochar(0) quite often in the past, especially as an itemdelitimter with other numtochar(1) delimited items in it, and this is he first time that I encountered problems. Any other opinions before I remove this potential troublemaker from my scripts? Thanks Mark :-) Best, Mark Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de/bass Mark, maybe you as a bassplayer would like to take a look at my new bass dept. on my website? See signature. Still work in progress! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter without empty
Oh well, my theory is clearly flawed - though I remember having some trouble with nulls a few years ago and so have avoided using them since. Cool bass site! I believe Mark Wieder is also an earth shaker - any others here? Best, Mark On 14 Feb 2008, at 13:06, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Mark, I think using engine opertaions on data that contains nulls is a bit of a no-no. I believe (though happy to be corrected) that Rev uses C-style null terminated strings internally, so nulls will often produce 'unexpected results'. Hm, I have been using numtochar(0) quite often in the past, especially as an itemdelitimter with other numtochar(1) delimited items in it, and this is he first time that I encountered problems. Any other opinions before I remove this potential troublemaker from my scripts? Thanks Mark :-) Best, Mark Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de/bass Mark, maybe you as a bassplayer would like to take a look at my new bass dept. on my website? See signature. Still work in progress! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter without empty
I know for sure that null does not work with the filter command. I have posted code in the past for extracting data from sources that you do not create and one of the steps I put in before any filter commands is replace null with empty in dataBlock Sorry it works that way. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 2/14/08 4:45 AM, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, just spend some hours debugging some otherwise clean code for a couple of hours just to discover that: ... put one numtochar(0) two into newstring filter newstring without empty put newstring ... gives: one! I just wanted to remove empty lines, so is this correct behaviour? Or should I bugzilla this one? No problems with numtochar(1). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filter without empty
Hi Jim, I know for sure that null does not work with the filter command. well, that's what I know now, too :-) I have posted code in the past for extracting data from sources that you do not create and one of the steps I put in before any filter commands is replace null with empty in dataBlock Sorry it works that way. And it's YOUR FAULT! :-D Just kidding, already have a workaround for my situations. Jim Ault Las Vegas Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Yep, except I am a bass violin player (unless you count the Ashbory which, in my book really isn't a bass guitar, although it does have some things in common). I have played classical, now I play jazz, avante-garde, meditational (all the previous improv), and some fiddle music, but that I mostly play the fiddle parts (in Edgar Meyer wannabe style). I do an acoustic version of Hendrix's Star Spangled Banner, using the bow and harmonics to emulate the feedback, etc. Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:31:33 + From: Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool bass site! I believe Mark Wieder is also an earth shaker - any others here? Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: way OT bass players ... was filter without empty
Mark Smith wrote: Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de/bass Cool bass site! I believe Mark Wieder is also an earth shaker - any others here? I haven't been in a band since college. These days, with music I'm more of an end-user (though I have a couple friends trying to coax me back into picking up my drum sticks). But as an end-user, I've always loved the bass. And the Chapman Stick. I just picked up Tony Levin's latest solo album, Stick Man, from iTunes the other day, and while it's all Stick there's plenty there for bass fans to enjoy (and perhaps feel a touch of envy for the Stick's range, and the almost unbelievable things it can do in hands like Levin's). Klaus: no MP3s at your site? I'd love to hear what you've been working on. Okay, back to scripting for me (booting up iTunes for background motivation) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
