AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 01:02 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jacqueline, not beeing a Mac user, I don't know where and how to set the owner. Can I do it with the GUI, or do I have to use the terminal? Could you give me a hint (OS X 10.5)? You can use the UI. Select your app, choose Get Info from the File menu in the Finder, and in the last pane at the bottom are the owner and permissions settings. Change the owner to system. (You may have to unlock the padlock first before it will allow you to change the owner.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Have you tried Repairing Permissions? HD/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility Start it up, select the HD and click the Repair Disk Permissions button. It may take a while (10 min or more depending on how many GB of data you have and how long it's been since it's been run.) After it is finished, review the output to see if your application was named as needing repair. If it was, it's probably worth while running the repair again to confirm it doesn't come up again. For reference, this sounds very much like a problem Peter Brigham suffered with his Gutenberg Reader stack back at the end of Feb. If you have the facilities to search the List archives I suggest you take a look - search Gutenberg Reader. After some 20 posts Sarah Reichalt provided the solution; seems the standalone had been made on Win and turned into a ZIP file, then sent to Macs. This created the odd permissions error. Sarah suggested turning the standalone into a DMG file for Mac users. Once this was done it solved the permissions errors a few Mac users were experiencing. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hello Tiemo, Another idea: put the app into the folder users/AllUsers (or such like that; in German: Benutzer/ Für alle Benutzer) All Users can start the app from there;. Greetings Richard. -- From: Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de Subject: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 13644dc4c0a74defa06593452f323...@kestner.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM, R. Hillen m...@richard-hillen.de wrote: Another idea: put the app into the folder users/AllUsers (or such like that; in German: Benutzer/ Für alle Benutzer) All Users can start the app from there;. This might also appear as: Hard Disc/Users/Shared If you Get Info on the Shared folder it should say: system,wheel,everyone have Read Write permissions. Place the app in this Shared Folder, Get Info for the Shared folder and click the cog and apply the permissions to everything inside. Get Info for your app and see if the permissions have been amended. If it then works, try placing it back in the Hard Disc/Applications Folder. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Did you try selecting the apply to enclosed items item from the popup menu with the cog icon in the GetInfo window? Terry... On 17/04/09 7:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Kay, no parental control is activated. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Kay C Lan Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 12:38 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: Any other idea? Are there any Parental Controls set? Go to: System Preferences = Accounts For the Account in question, select it, then select the Open Parental Controls... button. See if your app is listed. If my fading memory is correct, I think newly added apps are not automatically added to Accounts that have Parental Control features engaged - if no Parental Control features are used the apps should be available to all uses if placed in the system wide Application Folder. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hello Richard, noop same effect at that location Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von R. Hillen Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 13:00 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hello Tiemo, Another idea: put the app into the folder users/AllUsers (or such like that; in German: Benutzer/ Für alle Benutzer) All Users can start the app from there;. Greetings Richard. -- From: Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de Subject: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 13644dc4c0a74defa06593452f323...@kestner.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Kay C Lan Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 10:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Have you tried Repairing Permissions? HD/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility Start it up, select the HD and click the Repair Disk Permissions button. It may take a while (10 min or more depending on how many GB of data you have and how long it's been since it's been run.) After it is finished, review the output to see if your application was named as needing repair. If it was, it's probably worth while running the repair again to confirm it doesn't come up again. For reference, this sounds very much like a problem Peter Brigham suffered with his Gutenberg Reader stack back at the end of Feb. If you have the facilities to search the List archives I suggest you take a look - search Gutenberg Reader. After some 20 posts Sarah Reichalt provided the solution; seems the standalone had been made on Win and turned into a ZIP file, then sent to Macs. This created the odd permissions error. Sarah suggested turning the standalone into a DMG file for Mac users. Once this was done it solved the permissions errors a few Mac users were experiencing. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Phil, thank you for your extensive explanation. In opposite to your tutorial my files have two different permission setting: drwxrwxrwx (leading d ?) e.g. the bundle.app -rwxrw-rw- e.g. The execute of my app Because of the different number of chars to your advice I didn't executed the sudo command. Any idea? Thanks Tiemo You will hopefully now see all the individual elements that make up your app, and the permissions related to each one. On the app I had all were set to rwxrwxrwx - which gives all permissions to everyone. If yours doesn't have that you can set it as follows: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Kay C Lan Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 10:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: Hi Jacqueline, there was no user system, so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Have you tried Repairing Permissions? HD/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility Start it up, select the HD and click the Repair Disk Permissions button. It may take a while (10 min or more depending on how many GB of data you have and how long it's been since it's been run.) After it is finished, review the output to see if your application was named as needing repair. If it was, it's probably worth while running the repair again to confirm it doesn't come up again. For reference, this sounds very much like a problem Peter Brigham suffered with his Gutenberg Reader stack back at the end of Feb. If you have the facilities to search the List archives I suggest you take a look - search Gutenberg Reader. After some 20 posts Sarah Reichalt provided the solution; seems the standalone had been made on Win and turned into a ZIP file, then sent to Macs. This created the odd permissions error. Sarah suggested turning the standalone into a DMG file for Mac users. Once this was done it solved the permissions errors a few Mac users were experiencing. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Terry, yes I did without success Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Terry Judd Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 12:05 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Did you try selecting the apply to enclosed items item from the popup menu with the cog icon in the GetInfo window? Terry... On 17/04/09 7:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, certain parts of the application have to have execute access too. I think somehow the permissions got messed up when the app was transferred to the Mac. The app itself is just a folder containing a number of other files, any one (or more) of which could have its permissions messed up. I just checked one of my apps and every single file (and folder) inside of it has full permissions (read, write and execute) to all users - not what I was expecting - though it does mean the app runs... If you don't mind using the terminal you could try the following (don't type the quotes - I put them in to try to separate the commands from the other text). Hopefully you can still retrieve a copy of the original app in case this or the previous attempts to make it work mess it up further. Start the terminal and type cd and a space. Open a Finder window to see a view of your application. Click and then drag your application icon across into the terminal window (this should add the full path to the location of your app to the cd command you previously typed). Go back to the terminal (click in its window) and press return. This should now run the cd command and set the terminal's current directory to be inside the application bundle folder for this app. Type pwd and press return This should show you the current working directory - which now should be inside the folder that represents the app (probably something like /Applications/yourappname.app. If it isn't, don't try the sudo chmod command below - you could mess up all sorts of other files. Type ls -lR and press return (that's lower case L, lower case S, space, minus, lower case L and upper case R) You will hopefully now see all the individual elements that make up your app, and the permissions related to each one. On the app I had all were set to rwxrwxrwx - which gives all permissions to everyone. If yours doesn't have that you can set it as follows: Type the following command while still in the same directory that you were in when you did the ls command previously (you could repeat the pwd command just to be sure). sudo chmod -R a+rwx * (the last bit is a star character). This means as a super user (admin user), change the access permissions recursively (the -R bit) to add read write and execute for all users to any files and folders in the current directory. You'll be asked for your password - you have to be an admin user to run this command. If you enter your password correctly, all the files and folders inside your app should now be read, write and execute to everyone. Only your app's enclosing folder hasn't been changed by this command. If your app still doesn't work, then I'm not sure what else to suggest! Good luck! On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:57, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a system user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: Any other idea? Are there any Parental Controls set? Go to: System Preferences = Accounts For the Account in question, select it, then select the Open Parental Controls... button. See if your app is listed. If my fading memory is correct, I think newly added apps are not automatically added to Accounts that have Parental Control features engaged - if no Parental Control features are used the apps should be available to all uses if placed in the system wide Application Folder. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, directories have a d at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the d bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... On 17 Apr 2009, at 13:29, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, thank you for your extensive explanation. In opposite to your tutorial my files have two different permission setting: drwxrwxrwx (leading d ?) e.g. the bundle.app -rwxrw-rw- e.g. The execute of my app Because of the different number of chars to your advice I didn't executed the sudo command. Any idea? Thanks Tiemo You will hopefully now see all the individual elements that make up your app, and the permissions related to each one. On the app I had all were set to rwxrwxrwx - which gives all permissions to everyone. If yours doesn't have that you can set it as follows: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose read or read write, no read write execute. Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I missing something? 2. When creating a new app, is this way by setting the x permissions with sudo the standard way to give everyone the permission to execute my app, or am I missing something in creating my standalone (on Win XP and transferring it to Mac to create a DMG)? Thanks for your coaching, have a nice WE! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, directories have a d at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the d bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.dewrote: noop same effect at that location OK, lets go back to the beginning. Delete the app off your HD. If I remember you said it started out as a DMG on a CD, so when logged in as the Admin User drag the dmg file (copy) to the HD/Users/Shared folder and double click on it so it expands. When your app has expanded, drag it to the HD/Applications folder. Click on it and Get Info. What does it list for the 3 names permissions? system: Read Write, admin: Read Write, everyone: Read Only? Does it work now under Admin user, what about when logged in as a Standard User? You should be able to do the following when logged in as a Standard User, but when you try to change anything it will ask for the Admin Name and Password. Is this the only Rev standalone on the Mac. Does the Mac have a copy of the IDE which may only be available for the Admin user to use? Is this definitely a standalone - a Rev stack can be opened without the IDE if another Rev Stack exists on the Mac, so in this case, if the app isn't a standalone but is really only a stack, it will try to start up the IDE, Rev Player or any other Rev standalone that contains the Rev engine, if these are only available to the Admin User then the Stack (not app) will fail to start for a Standard User. With Get Info what does it list under Name Extension, does it have .rev or no extension at all? Control Click on the app so the contextual menu pops up and select 'Show Package Contents'. A new Finder window should pop up with a single folder called Contents, select it so you can look inside. Remember you can't write to an application, so most of what is in here will have ONLY READ permission, the exceptions are Info.plist file and any other file you've specifically created to counter this situation, ie you've created a stack with splashscreen, have a database or simply write to a seperate file. If your app works for the Admin user, then the particular file (info.plist, rev, db or other) must have the correct write permission for the Admin user so maybe system Read Write, admin Read Write, everyone Read. In this case the everyone needs to change to Read Write, but remember, everyone Read Write should only be changed on those files that you know the user needs to be able to write to, all other folders and files should have their permissions left as is. It might be handy to look in the HD/Applications/ folder for any other 3rd party (not Apple, ie Firefox or Skype) application that has been installed. Control Click on it to 'Show Package Contents' and check the various permissions of the folders and files inside. You will see that the three names are system, admin and everyone, and typcially ONLY the info.plist file has Read Write for everyone. Are these 3rd party apps visible to the Standard User and do they work correctly? The next problem might be Preferences. Instead of writing to a .plist file located inside the app bundle (Mac name for the folder that looks like a file), you could write to a preference file located in the Preference Folder, unfortunately there are several of these. Each User has their own, plus there is a System level one, HD/Library/Preferences. If your app writes to HD/Library/Preferences it will work for the Admin user as they have Write permission, but it will not work for standard Users. Preferences should go in each individual HD/Users/user name/Library/Preferences folder so that each User will have the app start with their own preferences. Obviously each user can Read and Write to their own Preferences folder. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hiya, This seems to have taken a roundabout route to sort out! I haven't had any such issues with Mac installs: Could the problem lie elsewhere? I'm wondering if, in the creation of the CD, the permissions have been mangled by whatever was used to create it? Opening a dmg and then dragging the app to its destination (for all users it should be HD/Applications) has always worked. What doesn't work at times is when the app is run from _within_ the dmg. If the dmg is not too large, email me off list (tell me the size of the file first!) and if you don't mind, I'll test it here and see what I can find. Cheers, Luis. On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:09, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose read or read write, no read write execute. Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I missing something? 2. When creating a new app, is this way by setting the x permissions with sudo the standard way to give everyone the permission to execute my app, or am I missing something in creating my standalone (on Win XP and transferring it to Mac to create a DMG)? Thanks for your coaching, have a nice WE! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, directories have a d at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the d bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, it looks like something is trashing the execute permissions between the Windows system and the Mac DMG. I always build my standalones on a Mac, so its not something I've come across. Presumably when Rev on Windows builds a Mac standalone, it gives the app it produces the equivalent of Windows execute access for all users (does Windows have this?), and when the app is then transferred to a Mac the different permissions system there is applied to match the Windows one. Or is it simply that when you copy a Mac app from a Windows file system to a Mac one, the Mac sets up execute permission for it automatically? Anyone know? On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:09, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose read or read write, no read write execute. Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I missing something? 2. When creating a new app, is this way by setting the x permissions with sudo the standard way to give everyone the permission to execute my app, or am I missing something in creating my standalone (on Win XP and transferring it to Mac to create a DMG)? Thanks for your coaching, have a nice WE! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, directories have a d at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the d bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Phil, so obiously anywhere in the process of creating the standalone there is a bug or whatever. Until I find the solution for the problem my question #1 (see below) would be interesting for me as a workaround - beside of creating the standalone directly on the Mac. Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 16:02 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, it looks like something is trashing the execute permissions between the Windows system and the Mac DMG. I always build my standalones on a Mac, so its not something I've come across. Presumably when Rev on Windows builds a Mac standalone, it gives the app it produces the equivalent of Windows execute access for all users (does Windows have this?), and when the app is then transferred to a Mac the different permissions system there is applied to match the Windows one. Or is it simply that when you copy a Mac app from a Windows file system to a Mac one, the Mac sets up execute permission for it automatically? Anyone know? On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:09, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose read or read write, no read write execute. Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I missing something? 2. When creating a new app, is this way by setting the x permissions with sudo the standard way to give everyone the permission to execute my app, or am I missing something in creating my standalone (on Win XP and transferring it to Mac to create a DMG)? Thanks for your coaching, have a nice WE! Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Jacqueline, not beeing a Mac user, I don't know where and how to set the owner. Can I do it with the GUI, or do I have to use the terminal? Could you give me a hint (OS X 10.5)? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 20:48 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I still can't get my app to run for everyone. I put my folder with my apps into the general application folder. Try setting the owner to system. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jacqueline, not beeing a Mac user, I don't know where and how to set the owner. Can I do it with the GUI, or do I have to use the terminal? Could you give me a hint (OS X 10.5)? You can use the UI. Select your app, choose Get Info from the File menu in the Finder, and in the last pane at the bottom are the owner and permissions settings. Change the owner to system. (You may have to unlock the padlock first before it will allow you to change the owner.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
I still can't get my app to run for everyone. I put my folder with my apps into the general application folder. By default my folder had only read permission for everyone, so I changed the permissions to read and write and inherited it to all apps in my folder. Now, when I log on with a standard user and double click one of my apps it seems for a moment, as if the app window wants to open (a short zoom of the app icon happens), but then nothing happens anymore, no window opens, no error message, just nothing. Also the window menu doesn't shows any open program. What am I missing? Any help appreciated Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Sarah Reichelt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2009 13:24 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? I am missing some basics of Mac handling. When copying my app folder (including several apps) out of a DMG from CD into the program folder on HD as an Admin, only the Admin can see and start my app. Every other user doesn't see my app folder. What do I have to do, that my app is accessibly for every user? Can the Admin set any permissions on my folder, so that it is accessible for everyone? If yes, where and which rights? On a Mac, there is a general Applications folder at the root level of the hard drive. Each user can also have their own Applications folder. A user's Applications folder is not accessible to other users, so it sounds as if the installation has been done into the user's folder, not the general Apps folder. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I still can't get my app to run for everyone. I put my folder with my apps into the general application folder. Try setting the owner to system. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
I am missing some basics of Mac handling. When copying my app folder (including several apps) out of a DMG from CD into the program folder on HD as an Admin, only the Admin can see and start my app. Every other user doesn't see my app folder. What do I have to do, that my app is accessibly for every user? Can the Admin set any permissions on my folder, so that it is accessible for everyone? If yes, where and which rights? On a Mac, there is a general Applications folder at the root level of the hard drive. Each user can also have their own Applications folder. A user's Applications folder is not accessible to other users, so it sounds as if the installation has been done into the user's folder, not the general Apps folder. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Thank you Sarah, good to know Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Sarah Reichelt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2009 13:24 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? I am missing some basics of Mac handling. When copying my app folder (including several apps) out of a DMG from CD into the program folder on HD as an Admin, only the Admin can see and start my app. Every other user doesn't see my app folder. What do I have to do, that my app is accessibly for every user? Can the Admin set any permissions on my folder, so that it is accessible for everyone? If yes, where and which rights? On a Mac, there is a general Applications folder at the root level of the hard drive. Each user can also have their own Applications folder. A user's Applications folder is not accessible to other users, so it sounds as if the installation has been done into the user's folder, not the general Apps folder. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hello, I am missing some basics of Mac handling. When copying my app folder (including several apps) out of a DMG from CD into the program folder on HD as an Admin, only the Admin can see and start my app. Every other user doesn't see my app folder. What do I have to do, that my app is accessibly for every user? Can the Admin set any permissions on my folder, so that it is accessible for everyone? If yes, where and which rights? Thanks for OT coaching Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
