How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Bonjour Andre, Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? I would go like this: ... put fld "Your field here" into Field_content replace CR with "" in Field_content replace TAB with "" in Field_content ## replace anything else that might be necessary if Field_content = empty then ## do your stuff... end if ... Hope that helps. Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André Best Klaus -- Klaus Major kl...@major-k.de http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Hi André, if number of words of fld "This Field" is 0 and (fld "This Field" contains cr or fld "This Field" contains tab) then... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 3 feb 2009, at 15:18, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Le 3 févr. 09 à 15:22, Klaus Major a écrit : Bonjour Andre, Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? I would go like this: put fld "Your field here" into Field_content replace CR with "" in Field_content replace TAB with "" in Field_content ## replace anything else that might be necessary if Field_content = empty then ## do your stuff... end if Hope that helps. Ouuups, of course, your are right I feel a bit ridiculous ;-) Danke sehr Klaus, André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Le 3 févr. 09 à 15:24, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi André, if number of words of fld "This Field" is 0 and (fld "This Field" contains cr or fld "This Field" contains tab) then... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Bonjour Mark Excellent :-) Same answer as I made to Klaus : I feel ridiculous (so twice). I seems really brain tired to day ;-) Anyway, thanks a lot for this idea Best regards from Grenoble André Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 3 feb 2009, at 15:18, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab?
This assumes what you need is whether text is in the field... function isEmpty pFld return (num of words of fld pFld = 0) end isEmpty HTH /H Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble Andri ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Andre.Bisseret- Yet another variation: if word 1 to -1 of field "thisField" is empty -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
I wonder, isn't there a way to use regular expressions to check for white space? Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Feb 3, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
This was a big thread on the HC list a few years back. Spaces are odd, in that they are not word delimiters. Although they are. One space between two word is two words, as is ten spaces between them. In HC: get the number of words of "a b c" --two spaces between the chars, returns 3 And this set the itemDelimiter to space get the number of items of "a b c" --returns 1 Space is just a special kind of character, and it is hard to get the white, er, space. Does Rev have more powerful tools? Craig Newman ** Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad. doubleclick.net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
I've found that using a non-breaking space instead of a space solves a lot of problems with parsing text. For instance links clicked in a field with two words connected with a NBS will act as one word-pair. This is perfect for headers. Perhaps filtering and searching with a NBS might work better in some instances. nbs = option-spaceascii 202 hex 0xCA 2009/2/3 > This was a big thread on the HC list a few years back. Spaces are odd, in > that they are not word delimiters. Although they are. One space between two > word > is two words, as is ten spaces between them. In HC: > > get the number of words of "a b c" --two spaces between the chars, > returns 3 > > And this > > set the itemDelimiter to space > > get the number of items of "a b c" --returns 1 > > Space is just a special kind of character, and it is hard to get the white, > er, space. > > Does Rev have more powerful tools? > > Craig Newman > > > ** > Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad > . > doubleclick.net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
dunb...@aol.com wrote: This was a big thread on the HC list a few years back. Spaces are odd, in that they are not word delimiters. Although they are. One space between two word is two words, as is ten spaces between them. In HC: get the number of words of "a b c" --two spaces between the chars, returns 3 And this set the itemDelimiter to space get the number of items of "a b c" --returns 1 Space is just a special kind of character, and it is hard to get the white, er, space. Does Rev have more powerful tools? In Rev, using space as an itemdelimiter works as you'd expect: set the itemDel to space put the number of items in "a b c" -> 3 put the number of items in "a b c" -> 5 However, the "word" function will still only return the actual number of words: put the number of words in "a b c" -> 3 which is generally what we want. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
Jacque: Score one for modernity. That spaces in Rev can be itemdelimiters is clean and logical, and obviates the whole issue. I have replaced spaces now and then in HC with both visible and invisible chars to emulate a space/word delimiter. I was among the camp in the HC thread that considered it a demi-bug. And I do see the logic behind having the number of words be spaces independent. Craig Newman In Rev, using space as an itemdelimiter works as you'd expect: set the itemDel to space put the number of items in "a b c" -> 3 put the number of items in "a b c" -> 5 However, the "word" function will still only return the actual number of words: put the number of words in "a b c" -> 3 which is generally what we want. ** Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab?
Hello Thanks to all who paid attention to my question Quite a nice number of ways (mainly variations around counting the number of words) best regards from Grenoble André P.S. Once again I did not receive a couple of messages; those from Craig ; I saw they were sent thanks to the answers, and on the archives One more mystery of e-mail ? Le 3 févr. 09 à 17:09, Hugh Senior a écrit : This assumes what you need is whether text is in the field... function isEmpty pFld return (num of words of fld pFld = 0) end isEmpty HTH /H Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble Andri ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab?
On 2/4/09 8:41 AM, "Andre.Bisseret" wrote: > Hello > Thanks to all who paid attention to my question > Quite a nice number of ways (mainly variations around counting the > number of words) BTW, just for 100% clairty, none of these "word-based" approaches work if there is a non-breaking space ( or ) in the field. Admittedly, the possibility of this happening is extremely low, but to be on the safe side, this is "trim" function I use: function trim what if the platform is "MacOS" then replace numToChar(202) with " " in what else replace numToChar(160) with " " in what end if return (word 1 to -1 of what) end trim So for testing an empty field, it would be: if trim(fld 1) = "" then HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab?
Very helpful indeed ! Always learning :-) I did not know that a non-breaking space was considered as a word ! Like St Thomas, I tried it and … you are right (of course ;-)) Yes, as you say, it is unlikely (mainly due to the fact that one use two keys to type a non-breaking space) but sure your function trim is a prudent precaution. Thanks a lot Ken André Le 4 févr. 09 à 19:00, Ken Ray a écrit : On 2/4/09 8:41 AM, "Andre.Bisseret" wrote: Hello Thanks to all who paid attention to my question Quite a nice number of ways (mainly variations around counting the number of words) BTW, just for 100% clairty, none of these "word-based" approaches work if there is a non-breaking space ( or ) in the field. Admittedly, the possibility of this happening is extremely low, but to be on the safe side, this is "trim" function I use: function trim what if the platform is "MacOS" then replace numToChar(202) with " " in what else replace numToChar(160) with " " in what end if return (word 1 to -1 of what) end trim So for testing an empty field, it would be: if trim(fld 1) = "" then HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
there is: if matchText(fld "fText", "\S") is false then answer "no text in field" end if This one checks for any symbols that are not "whitespace" of any kind (\S is same as [ \t\f\r\n]). Viktoras Bob Sneidar wrote: I wonder, isn't there a way to use regular expressions to check for white space? Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Feb 3, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to test if a field does not contain anything else than returns or tab ?
small correction: \s is same as [ \t\f\r\n], and \S is opposite to \s. viktoras d. wrote: there is: if matchText(fld "fText", "\S") is false then answer "no text in field" end if This one checks for any symbols that are not "whitespace" of any kind (\S is same as [ \t\f\r\n]). Viktoras Bob Sneidar wrote: I wonder, isn't there a way to use regular expressions to check for white space? Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Feb 3, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, I need to test if a given list field in a stack contains some values or if it is empty. Well, by "empty" I mean that the field contains not any word or number. But it happens that it may include carriage returns and/or tabs. In such cases : field "thisField" is empty return false. If there were only carriage returns, I could test if each line of the field is empty; indeed : line x of fld "thisField" is empty returns true if the only character in the line is cr but returns false if there is at least one tab in the line. I just tried : if last char of fld "thisField" is empty ;-)) that seems working well ! but a bit strange and might be not reliable ? Is there a better trick ? Thanks for any idea Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
