Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi, I tested on preOpenStack answer moo end preOpenStack on first card of otherwise empty stack on MacBook Pro, System 10.4.10 german, RR 2.8.1, GLX on and off. it works with doubleclick, drag and drop and starting stack from within Revolution. only difference is on doubleclick and drag and drop there is no RR-logo in the answer dialog box, probably because the icons are not yet available? hth bernd Malte Brill wrote: Hi Kay, this is extremly interesting. As you see a different behaviour than me, I suspect it might be a setting somewhere or something that got corrupted on my and other machines. Would love to investigate that. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-use-revolution-Digest%2C-Vol-50%2C-Issue-10-tf4756652.html#a13644520 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Kay, this is extremly interesting. As you see a different behaviour than me, I suspect it might be a setting somewhere or something that got corrupted on my and other machines. Would love to investigate that. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
On Nov 8, 2007 6:30 PM, BNig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on first card of otherwise empty stack on MacBook Pro, System 10.4.10 german, RR 2.8.1, GLX on and off. it works with doubleclick, drag and drop and starting stack from within Revolution. Had thought that there may have been something about a German install, but clearly not. Do you have any other development environments or frontscripts (other than GLX) that may be running? Got an old Rev 2.6 that you can start up and test? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Yes, and I missed it. Sorry. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 7-nov-2007, om 8:49 heeft Malte Brill het volgende geschreven: I´m suspecting the last line of your script is a typo. Should read end openStack However, is button foo on the first card? All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: Idle handlers and Text files
On Nov 6, 2007 11:11 PM, Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, my experience is that it does not get sent if Rev is not yet open and you double click on a stack file, or drag the stack to the rev icon in the Dock under Os X. If Rev is already open stacks Do get preOpenstack and openStack. Sorry for coming to this late, but I must differ. I have preOpenStack handler which determines if the mySQL server is running and if not, pops up a dialog to tell me that it isn't and that my app is about to Quit to allow me to start mySQL first. Works like a charm. I quite often start my app by double clicking when Rev isn't running. I don't Drag Drop though, but I just tried it and it worked fine, again without Rev running in the first place. App in IDE mode, OSX 10.4.10, Rev 2.8.1, MacTel, with without GLX2 There must be something in your code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Kay, following test scenario. Vanilla Stack, first card script reads: on preOpenStack answer moo end preOpenStack Save-quit rev, double click - No moo at all quit rev - open Rev - double click - Moos just fine same with drag and drop RR 2.8.1, Intel MacBook, German Os X.4.10, with and without GLX. ATB, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
On Nov 7, 2007 9:28 PM, Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: following test scenario. Vanilla Stack, first card script reads: on preOpenStack answer moo end preOpenStack Save-quit rev, double click - No moo at all quit rev - open Rev - double click - Moos just fine same with drag and drop RR 2.8.1, Intel MacBook, German Os X.4.10, with and without GLX. Malte, Just started Rev, created a brand new Main Stack, copied your handler above into the card script, Quit Rev and tried both double clicking and Drag Drop and 'moo' came up both times. RR 2.8.1 in IDE mode, Intel MacBook Pro, English OS x.4.10, with and without GLX Additionally, I've had this stack working since 2.6, but without the warning about mySQL server not running. In the preOpenStack handler there is a call to lookup the last record in a table and present the data. If mySQL wasn't running I'd just get empty fields, with mySQL running the fields would be filled so I'm pretty sure preOpenStack has been behaving this way for years - at least for double clicking as this is how I've normally started this stack; can't say the same for Drag Drop as I don't start my stacks that way. Need others to test. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Along the lines of this discussion, I think someone mentioned that the preOpenStack message is NOT sent when you are using the IDE. Is this true? If so, where can I put start-up code so that I set things up before an app gets going in both the IDE and a stand-alone? Thanks! len Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Jonathan, It is recommended to use the send command instead of the idle handler. on preOpenStack send foo to me in 0 millisecs pass preOpenStack end preOpenStack on foo -- do something here send foo to me in 200 millisecs end foo If the preOpenStack handler doesn't allow you to do this, you made a mistake somewhere, which needs to be corrected to avoid problems in the future. If I understand you correctly, you can't send a mouseUp message automatically after opening the stack. That also means you made a mistake somewhere, which needs to be corrected. I don't think that using the idle handler, or send, is a good alternative in this case. My advice would be to find out why you can't send that mouseUp command. The Finder simply updates open windows once in a while, including the desktop. It doesn't matter at which level in the hierarchy they are. However, if you add or remove a folder, the window gets updated instantly. Not sure that it helps you, but if I do a test writing files to a folder or the desktop, I see the file appear instantly on my local disks, but not that quickly on network disks. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 6-nov-2007, om 9:14 heeft Jonathan Scott het volgende geschreven: Howdy, Thank you to everyone who pointed me towards my solutions. I still don't know exactly what is going on, but here are the solutions I figured out after receiving your advice: openstack not functioning I just put in a new card with nothing on it (as the first card in the stack). In it's handler I put in an on idle handler that does nothing but issue send 'mouseUp' statements and then moves the user to another card afterward (to a place where there is no on idle handler). text files not being written The big problem was that text files were actually being written. I just couldn't find them for a few minutes sometimes. Sometimes I'd have to wait a very long time for the files to pop up on the screen. My assumption was that the finder's ability to update every viewable portion of the hard drive can take a lot of time. IOW, the file was there, it was just that the finder hadn't moved in to update that part of the screen yet. So, my workaround was to have all files be saved to a folder on the desktop. Because the desktop is closer to the top of the hierarchical structure, it is probably updated with much greater frequency. I still don't know if this is a good decision. It works though, so I'm happy. Thanks again everybody. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Len, The preOpenStack message should be sent in the IDE when a stack opens. I believe there was a bug in a particular version of Revolution, which prevented the message from being sent under particular circumstances. The message that is never sent to a stack in the IDE is the startUp message. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 6-nov-2007, om 14:49 heeft Len Morgan het volgende geschreven: Along the lines of this discussion, I think someone mentioned that the preOpenStack message is NOT sent when you are using the IDE. Is this true? If so, where can I put start-up code so that I set things up before an app gets going in both the IDE and a stand-alone? Thanks! len ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Len Morgan wrote: Along the lines of this discussion, I think someone mentioned that the preOpenStack message is NOT sent when you are using the IDE. Is this true? I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? If so, where can I put start-up code so that I set things up before an app gets going in both the IDE and a stand-alone? I do initialization from a preOpenStack handler in the card script of the first card of the stack file which will be made into a standalone. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi, in my experience at times the Finder can be slow to update a file but most of the times this is not a problem for me. If I really depend on the Finder to be up to date on the file I'm creating I update the Finder with an applescript. This forces the Finder to update the file. You can do this from Revolution: on mouseUp answer file choose document if it is empty then exit mouseUp -- it contains a path to a file including the filename in revolution style put it into theRevPathFile -- convert the the path from revolution style to mac style for applescript put revMacFromUnixPath (theRevPathFile) into theFile -- build the applescript command put tell application quote Finder quote into UpDateFileWithAppleScript put return update filequote theFile quote after UpDateFileWithAppleScript put return end tell after UpDateFileWithAppleScript -- do the applescript do UpDateFileWithAppleScript as applescript -- if something went wrong in the applescript the result is not empty if the result is not empty then put the result end mouseUp of course this only shows how it works, to put it into a mouseUp handler with a choose file will probably not work on a file, which is not yet updated by the Finder... So just take the inner part of the handler and provide it with a complete path (rev style) to the file you want to update after you created it. fwiw Bernd Mark Schonewille-3 wrote: Hi Jonathan, The Finder simply updates open windows once in a while, including the desktop. It doesn't matter at which level in the hierarchy they are. However, if you add or remove a folder, the window gets updated instantly. Not sure that it helps you, but if I do a test writing files to a folder or the desktop, I see the file appear instantly on my local disks, but not that quickly on network disks. Best regards, Mark Schonewille Op 6-nov-2007, om 9:14 heeft Jonathan Scott het volgende geschreven: Howdy, Thank you to everyone who pointed me towards my solutions. I still don't know exactly what is going on, but here are the solutions I figured out after receiving your advice: openstack not functioning I just put in a new card with nothing on it (as the first card in the stack). In it's handler I put in an on idle handler that does nothing but issue send 'mouseUp' statements and then moves the user to another card afterward (to a place where there is no on idle handler). text files not being written The big problem was that text files were actually being written. I just couldn't find them for a few minutes sometimes. Sometimes I'd have to wait a very long time for the files to pop up on the screen. My assumption was that the finder's ability to update every viewable portion of the hard drive can take a lot of time. IOW, the file was there, it was just that the finder hadn't moved in to update that part of the screen yet. So, my workaround was to have all files be saved to a folder on the desktop. Because the desktop is closer to the top of the hierarchical structure, it is probably updated with much greater frequency. I still don't know if this is a good decision. It works though, so I'm happy. Thanks again everybody. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-use-revolution-Digest%2C-Vol-50%2C-Issue-10-tf4756652.html#a13608036 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: Idle handlers and Text files
I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? Well, my experience is that it does not get sent if Rev is not yet open and you double click on a stack file, or drag the stack to the rev icon in the Dock under Os X. If Rev is already open stacks Do get preOpenstack and openStack. (latest 2.8 version, GLX installed, but I think the reason is the normal IDE not GLX) ATB, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi all, I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? Well, my experience is that it does not get sent if Rev is not yet open and you double click on a stack file, or drag the stack to the rev icon in the Dock under Os X. If Rev is already open stacks Do get preOpenstack and openStack. (latest 2.8 version, GLX installed, but I think the reason is the normal IDE not GLX) and the IDE definitively catches a custom shutdownrequest handler. In our current project we make a data backup before the user quits, that is triggered by a shutdownrequest handler in a stack that is also being used!, but in the IDE, the app quits WITHOUT making any backup. ATB, Malte Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Malte Brill wrote: I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? Well, my experience is that it does not get sent if Rev is not yet open and you double click on a stack file, or drag the stack to the rev icon in the Dock under Os X. If Rev is already open stacks Do get preOpenstack and openStack. Thanks for the clarification, Malte. The engine's sending it -- do you know why it isn't be passed? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Len, You'd put a preOpenStack handler into the card script of the mainstack if you want that script to run only when the mainstack opens and not when substacks open. Otherwise, the preOpenStack handler would be send up the message hierarchy each time a substack is opened. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 6-nov-2007, om 16:43 heeft Len Morgan het volgende geschreven: I probably did confuse the startup message with preOpenStack however, I put a simple debug message in my preOpenStack handler (which is the STACK script) and it doesn't ever fire (when running in the IDE). The last line of your response brings up a question though: Why would you put a preOpenStack message in the first card instead of the stack script? This seems counterintuitive to me. For what it's worth, I am NOT starting up my stack by double clicking on it. I start up the Rev IDE first (w/ GLX2) and then use File-Open Stack to pick my stack. Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
I probably did confuse the startup message with preOpenStack however, I put a simple debug message in my preOpenStack handler (which is the STACK script) and it doesn't ever fire (when running in the IDE). The last line of your response brings up a question though: Why would you put a preOpenStack message in the first card instead of the stack script? This seems counterintuitive to me. For what it's worth, I am NOT starting up my stack by double clicking on it. I start up the Rev IDE first (w/ GLX2) and then use File-Open Stack to pick my stack. Len Morgan Richard Gaskin wrote: Len Morgan wrote: Along the lines of this discussion, I think someone mentioned that the preOpenStack message is NOT sent when you are using the IDE. Is this true? I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? If so, where can I put start-up code so that I set things up before an app gets going in both the IDE and a stand-alone? I do initialization from a preOpenStack handler in the card script of the first card of the stack file which will be made into a standalone. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
On Nov 6, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Len Morgan wrote: I probably did confuse the startup message with preOpenStack however, I put a simple debug message in my preOpenStack handler (which is the STACK script) and it doesn't ever fire (when running in the IDE). The last line of your response brings up a question though: Why would you put a preOpenStack message in the first card instead of the stack script? This seems counterintuitive to me. One good reason to do this is that when you make the stack into a standalone application, the stack in effect becomes the engine. Therefore, it is the final stop in the message hierarchy. That means that any substack or other stack that your standalone opens, if it doesn't have its own preOpenStack handler, will pass the preOpenStack message to the engine. You may not want the preOpenStack handler there to be activated for other stacks. On the other hand, if you put it in the first card's script, it will only run when the application is launched (because a stack by default opens to the first card.) For what it's worth, I am NOT starting up my stack by double clicking on it. I start up the Rev IDE first (w/ GLX2) and then use File-Open Stack to pick my stack. Len Morgan Richard Gaskin wrote: Len Morgan wrote: Along the lines of this discussion, I think someone mentioned that the preOpenStack message is NOT sent when you are using the IDE. Is this true? I don't believe so; AFAIK the IDE does not prevent your stack from getting preOpenStack messages. Perhaps you were thinking of startup? If so, where can I put start-up code so that I set things up before an app gets going in both the IDE and a stand-alone? I do initialization from a preOpenStack handler in the card script of the first card of the stack file which will be made into a standalone. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hello Mark! If my first wife had not asked me to get the big snip as an anniversary present many years ago, I'd name my next male child after you for that little tidbit. I may still consider re-naming my first born male child after you, although at 22, he may have some thoughts on the matter. You have saved me DAYS of frustration in tracking down why my preOpenStack is getting executed AGAIN when I quit the app! Is that little item documented anywhere? Now that I see it in writing and knowing (a little) about how the message path works, it makes perfect sense. I guess I always figured that when I opened another stack, the message was sent to it. It never occurred that if there was no preOpenStack message, that it would get passed back to the caller! Perhaps that is obvious to everyone but me. Thanks again!!! len morgan Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Len, You'd put a preOpenStack handler into the card script of the mainstack if you want that script to run only when the mainstack opens and not when substacks open. Otherwise, the preOpenStack handler would be send up the message hierarchy each time a substack is opened. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
I think you could put a preOpenStack handler in every stack or substack at the stack script level and choose not to send it along the hierarchy. This would allow the use of preOpenStack in the substacks when desired. However, this would not be correct if the preOpenStack message actually got sent to the main stack in either the IDE or the stand alone. I have little experience with apps and preOpenStack, so others can give wiser advice. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 11/6/07 8:13 AM, Len Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mark! If my first wife had not asked me to get the big snip as an anniversary present many years ago, I'd name my next male child after you for that little tidbit. I may still consider re-naming my first born male child after you, although at 22, he may have some thoughts on the matter. You have saved me DAYS of frustration in tracking down why my preOpenStack is getting executed AGAIN when I quit the app! Is that little item documented anywhere? Now that I see it in writing and knowing (a little) about how the message path works, it makes perfect sense. I guess I always figured that when I opened another stack, the message was sent to it. It never occurred that if there was no preOpenStack message, that it would get passed back to the caller! Perhaps that is obvious to everyone but me. Thanks again!!! len morgan Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Len, You'd put a preOpenStack handler into the card script of the mainstack if you want that script to run only when the mainstack opens and not when substacks open. Otherwise, the preOpenStack handler would be send up the message hierarchy each time a substack is opened. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Len, That's really too much honour for me, but I'm always glad to help. There is a nice stack by Richard, explaining the message hierarchy. You can find it here: http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/ The message hierarchy is extensively documented in the HyperCard literature. I don't know of any good reference directly connected with Revolution, except fo page 103 of the user manual PDF included with Revolution 2.7.1 and later. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 6-nov-2007, om 17:13 heeft Len Morgan het volgende geschreven: Hello Mark! If my first wife had not asked me to get the big snip as an anniversary present many years ago, I'd name my next male child after you for that little tidbit. I may still consider re-naming my first born male child after you, although at 22, he may have some thoughts on the matter. You have saved me DAYS of frustration in tracking down why my preOpenStack is getting executed AGAIN when I quit the app! Is that little item documented anywhere? Now that I see it in writing and knowing (a little) about how the message path works, it makes perfect sense. I guess I always figured that when I opened another stack, the message was sent to it. It never occurred that if there was no preOpenStack message, that it would get passed back to the caller! Perhaps that is obvious to everyone but me. Thanks again!!! len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
although somewhat off-topic, this might be a good time to add that Dar Scott's 'Message Mechanics Primer' example stack will help one wrap one's head around the oft-confusing world of messages: http://www.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html A Primer on Message Mechanics. This module (stack file) is a primer on using send, cancel, pendingMessages and callbacks. Those are the basic Revolution components needed to get your stacks to do several things at the same time. The primer starts from the basics and builds on those, providing examples and details along the way. It is 88 tiny pages long and if that is not long enough for you, note that it is set up so you can add your own pages. It is fun and... It is Free! sqb Hello Mark! If my first wife had not asked me to get the big snip as an anniversary present many years ago, I'd name my next male child after you for that little tidbit. I may still consider re-naming my first born male child after you, although at 22, he may have some thoughts on the matter. You have saved me DAYS of frustration in tracking down why my preOpenStack is getting executed AGAIN when I quit the app! Is that little item documented anywhere? Now that I see it in writing and knowing (a little) about how the message path works, it makes perfect sense. I guess I always figured that when I opened another stack, the message was sent to it. It never occurred that if there was no preOpenStack message, that it would get passed back to the caller! Perhaps that is obvious to everyone but me. Thanks again!!! len morgan -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Also worth remembering is that the openStack/preOpenStack message is sent by the engine to the first card in the mainstack, which is another reason one might want to handle it there. Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
on openstack send mouseUp to btn foo pass openstack close openstack Is this wrong? It's such a simple procedure. How could it be wrong? If it is, please fill me in on it. On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand you correctly, you can't send a mouseUp message automatically after opening the stack. That also means you made a mistake somewhere, which needs to be corrected. I don't think that using the idle handler, or send, is a good alternative in this case. My advice would be to find out why you can't send that mouseUp command. The Finder simply updates open windows once in a while, including the desktop. It doesn't matter at which level in the hierarchy they are. However, if you add or remove a folder, the window gets updated instantly. Not sure that it helps you, but if I do a test writing files to a folder or the desktop, I see the file appear instantly on my local disks, but not that quickly on network disks. Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Hi Jonathan, Your brief handler should be correct, but from here I can't see whether you lock any mesages that prevent the openStack handler from being sent or whether you have any openStack handler at a lower lever in the message hierarchy. There must be something in your stack that causes the problem. The fact that your script works in an otherwise empty stack but not in the mainstack of your project supports my suspicion that something is wrong with your mainstack. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 7-nov-2007, om 0:50 heeft Jonathan Scott het volgende geschreven: on openstack send mouseUp to btn foo pass openstack close openstack Is this wrong? It's such a simple procedure. How could it be wrong? If it is, please fill me in on it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Idle handlers and Text files
Is this wrong? It's such a simple procedure. How could it be wrong? If it is, please fill me in on it. I´m suspecting the last line of your script is a typo. Should read end openStack However, is button foo on the first card? All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
