Re: Message Box History
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: I thought I vaguely recalled a way to pull up message box history. Maybe I'm thinking of some plugin. I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
I modified the script of the message field in the message box for my own purposes, but if you add just one line to the enterInField and returnInField handlers there, you can send the contents of the field to some storage facility every time you use it: put me [ the date the time] return after yourMessageHistoryContainer Never had an issue with it, though it is fiddling with the IDE a bit. Craig Newman In a message dated 11/25/09 3:29:09 PM, howard.bornst...@gmail.com writes: I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
Howard- Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:28:56 PM, you wrote: I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick. put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
The late Eric Chatonet's Message Box picker might be good. http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolutionl=en Message Box Picker 1.1 Utility for Revolution Studio or Enterprise Freeware Additional functionalities for the message box This utility reorganizes the message history and puts the messages into chronological order, deletes any doubles and installs in the message box a drop-down menu that can be completely personalized and that makes it possible to bring up or to send a message with one mouse click. Bilingual utility (installer and uninstaller.) Help stack is included. Identical appearance on all platforms. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/11/25 dunb...@aol.com I modified the script of the message field in the message box for my own purposes, but if you add just one line to the enterInField and returnInField handlers there, you can send the contents of the field to some storage facility every time you use it: put me [ the date the time] return after yourMessageHistoryContainer Never had an issue with it, though it is fiddling with the IDE a bit. Craig Newman In a message dated 11/25/09 3:29:09 PM, howard.bornst...@gmail.com writes: I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
Now that is a much cleaner solution. Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and similar underground goodies documented? In a message dated 11/25/09 3:49:37 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes: put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
I would LOVE to know all the underground goodies, because I'd like to put them into a Tao of RR document. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 15:52, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Now that is a much cleaner solution. Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and similar underground goodies documented? In a message dated 11/25/09 3:49:37 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes: put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
Craig- Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:52:42 PM, you wrote: Now that is a much cleaner solution. Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and similar underground goodies documented? You want all the undocumented stuff *documented*? Bwahaha... Anyway, it's in the preOpenStack handler of stack MessageBox. There's lots of stuff in custom properties of the revPreferences stack that probably should be somewhere else, but that's where the IDE puts it, so we're stuck with it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
DunbarX wrote: Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and similar underground goodies documented? Many of them aren't; I'm still waiting for a leak on all the options for the _internal command. But there's a lot of good stuff in the Engine Change Log, down in the section toward the bottom labeled Currently Unsupported Feature. Here's one related to the Message Box that's kinda cool if you need it: -- the revMessageBoxRedirect ~ This global property allows you to configure what happens when the value of the 'msg' pseudo-variable changes. When set to empty, the old behaviour will be used. When set to the long id of a field, the old behaviour is replicated but instead of 'msg' being put into field 1 of card 1 of stack Message Box, it is put into the target field. (Note that this form will also cause the field's stack to be modeless'ed and raised). When set to the long id of a non-field object, the specified object will receive a 'msgChanged' message meaning that you have complete control over what to do with the updated value of 'msg'. NB. This property is only available in the IDE engine. -- -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box History
dunb...@aol.com wrote: Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and similar underground goodies documented? They aren't, because they are part of the IDE code. They're just custom handlers and properties, meant only for internal use, like anything we'd write ourselves. But you can go digging and find stuff if you're brave enough. Just note that because they're internal, they are subject to change without notice. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
Try this: on mouseUp put space the selectedLine of me into fld message field of stack message box put select before text of fld quote message field quote of stack quote message box quote into whattodo send whattodo to this stack in 30 end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
And I thought I was the klugeMaster. Craig In a message dated 3/27/09 1:17:45 PM, co...@rcn.com writes: Try this: on mouseUp put space the selectedLine of me into fld message field of stack message box put select before text of fld quote message field quote of stack quote message box quote into whattodo send whattodo to this stack in 30 end mouseUp ** Free Credit Report and Score Tracking! Get it Now for $0 at CreditReport.com. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220474599x1201401934/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.creditreport.com%3Fsrc%3Daolemail%26kwd%3Dmlftrtextlin k) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
Colin: On my machine, the wait time for the send command is about 50% effective if I wait 7 ticks. Perfect with 9, no go with 5. Simply inserting a wait command line in lieu of the send line does nothing at all. The entire text is selected after whatever interval is specified. So why does the internal wait in the send command differ from a separate wait command? Sending the message somehow is different than simply executing the next line, just like coming from outside the field somehow seems to work just fine. Craig. In a message dated 3/27/09 1:17:45 PM, co...@rcn.com writes: Try this: on mouseUp put space the selectedLine of me into fld message field of stack message box put select before text of fld quote message field quote of stack quote message box quote into whattodo send whattodo to this stack in 30 end mouseUp ** Free Credit Report and Score Tracking! Get it Now for $0 at CreditReport.com. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220474599x1201401934/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.creditreport.com%3Fsrc%3Daolemail%26kwd%3Dmlftrtextlin k) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:03 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: So why does the internal wait in the send command differ from a separate wait command? The send happens after the selecting of the message box text has happened. Doing an inline wait would be before the selecting of the message box will happen. I'm not surprised that changing the timing makes a difference, just use 10, and don't worry about wasting that sixth of a second of your life. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
Colin. The text is put into msg I wait I select before the text of msg. Or The text is put into msg I (you) load a variable with a command to select before the text of msg I wait, and send the command. Not the same order? I have the time. I am trying to have the wherewithal. Remember, clicking outside the field makes the expected behavior happen back in the field. It is something about getting away from it all, which sending a message instead of executing yet another line of code might somehow do. And then why would keeping the mouse down for (probably) 10 ticks always work? It is, after all, a mouseUp handler, and that delay works, though it should not. All I did was dally in releasing the button? How do it know? Craig In a message dated 3/27/09 2:12:24 PM, co...@rcn.com writes: The send happens after the selecting of the message box text has happened. Doing an inline wait would be before the selecting of the message box will happen. I'm not surprised that changing the timing makes a difference, just use 10, and don't worry about wasting that sixth of a second of your life. ** Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown0027) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:55 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: The text is put into msg I wait I select before the text of msg. Or The text is put into msg I (you) load a variable with a command to select before the text of msg I wait, and send the command. Not the same order? In the second case there were idle events between the text being put and the selection being set. The holding the mouse down may be introducing stilldown events that could change the conditions. You have bigger issues in your script anyway, such as it doesn't work if you haven't yet shown the message box. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box mild oddity
Picky. In a message dated 3/27/09 3:03:57 PM, co...@rcn.com writes: You have bigger issues in your script anyway, such as it doesn't work if you haven't yet shown the message box. ** Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown0027) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box history - confused
Bonjour Eric Well, I think it all depends on perspective - the sun probably doesn't see itself as a star either, from its perspective it's just a big planet surrounded by some less tropical planets. But I apologize if my praise was embarrassing, and I will try to prevent myself from causing you embarrassment in future (although of course I still welcome any help you can provide!) I am interested in what you say that the message history should not be saved if Rev crashes. Since they are saved, that gives me something to investigate. I had implemented my own backscript to log all the standard Rev messages and log them, but it didn't reveal anything untoward preceding a crash. Then I found out about Rev's own built-in (but undocumented) verboseLog.txt, which logs far more things (certainly including the setting of revGeneral custom properties, and apparently also function calls). The log produced this way is far more verbose than mine (they are even logging things like 'idle' messages). However, after analyzing that log following two crashes yesterday, it also revealed nothing (the last few statements in it were just 'mouseMove' and 'mouseLeave'). Since Jacques informs us that this is also the logging mechanism used in the Windows crash logs, and they were unhelpful to Runrev in diagnosing my crashes on Vista, it looks to me that unless we as users can identify some observable sequence of actions on our part there is currently no tool that aids in debugging crashes. Bernard On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonsoir Bernard, Of course, I'm not a star: I'm just blinking in the dark when I can. MB messages are saved when Rev quits without problem: in case of crash, they are not saved. So, I assume that in you case, it will not help. Probably, you could use 4W_UmbrellaMan.rev from Richard Gaskin ( http://www.fourthworld.com/products/devolution/index.html) in order to modify it to write a log on disk that will allow you to get relevant results. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box history - confused
Bonsoir Bernard, Of course, I'm not a star: I'm just blinking in the dark when I can. MB messages are saved when Rev quits without problem: in case of crash, they are not saved. So, I assume that in you case, it will not help. Probably, you could use 4W_UmbrellaMan.rev from Richard Gaskin (http://www.fourthworld.com/products/devolution/index.html) in order to modify it to write a log on disk that will allow you to get relevant results. Le 30 sept. 08 à 17:44, Bernard Devlin a écrit : Thank you, Eric. You're a star. I doubt I'll ever know as much as you do, because you're already so far ahead :-) So, I'm guessing that this revPreferences stack is updated every returnInField in the MB. I'll have to go and have a look at that. Bernard On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour Bernard, All this is normal :-) All messages are stored in the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences and there is only one stack revPreferences for consistency when working with different Rev versions. Le 30 sept. 08 à 13:57, Bernard Devlin a écrit : But this new behaviour (well, new to me) looks like the MB history is being shared between both 2.9 and 3.0. If I had the standard installation, where someone had upgraded to Rev 3.0 from 2.9 (using check for updates), I might understand that Rev was saving the MB history. But since I'm running two independent installations of Rev, I'm confused by the MB history being shared. Is this normal? And if so, how is it that Rev is sharing this history? I've checked for hidden (dot) files in my Linux user directory, and there are none there that seem to be associated with this. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box history - confused
Bonjour Bernard, All this is normal :-) All messages are stored in the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences and there is only one stack revPreferences for consistency when working with different Rev versions. Le 30 sept. 08 à 13:57, Bernard Devlin a écrit : But this new behaviour (well, new to me) looks like the MB history is being shared between both 2.9 and 3.0. If I had the standard installation, where someone had upgraded to Rev 3.0 from 2.9 (using check for updates), I might understand that Rev was saving the MB history. But since I'm running two independent installations of Rev, I'm confused by the MB history being shared. Is this normal? And if so, how is it that Rev is sharing this history? I've checked for hidden (dot) files in my Linux user directory, and there are none there that seem to be associated with this. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box history - confused
Thank you, Eric. You're a star. I doubt I'll ever know as much as you do, because you're already so far ahead :-) So, I'm guessing that this revPreferences stack is updated every returnInField in the MB. I'll have to go and have a look at that. Bernard On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour Bernard, All this is normal :-) All messages are stored in the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences and there is only one stack revPreferences for consistency when working with different Rev versions. Le 30 sept. 08 à 13:57, Bernard Devlin a écrit : But this new behaviour (well, new to me) looks like the MB history is being shared between both 2.9 and 3.0. If I had the standard installation, where someone had upgraded to Rev 3.0 from 2.9 (using check for updates), I might understand that Rev was saving the MB history. But since I'm running two independent installations of Rev, I'm confused by the MB history being shared. Is this normal? And if so, how is it that Rev is sharing this history? I've checked for hidden (dot) files in my Linux user directory, and there are none there that seem to be associated with this. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box
That makes sense. Thanks, Mark. Fritz On 29 Jun 2008, at 01:22, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Fritz, I don't think these commands ever worked form the message box, because the text of the message box is selected after executing syntax from it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box
Hi Fritz, I don't think these commands ever worked form the message box, because the text of the message box is selected after executing syntax from it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 28 jun 2008, at 18:17, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote: None of the text selection related commands (select text of ..., select after ... etc.) seem to work any longer from the message box. Revolution Version 2.9.0 Build 610 on a Power PC G 4 Mac OS 10.4.11. Fritz ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box weirdness
Hi Mark, Has anyone seen this type of thing before I have a group (a field, a couple of buttons), and I have a handler (updateBundles) in it's script that retrieves a list of files from somewhere else, filters the list, and does some other stuff to the filtered result, and puts it into the message box. When I issue the command from the message box, ie. send updateBundles to grp images.grp, the list is retrieved and immediately displayed without any filtering. If I issue the command (simply updateBundles) from a button in the group, or send updateBundles to grp images.grp in the script of any button, all goes as planned. How weird is that? Maybe this is related to this bug: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6434 Best, Mark Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box history menu (was: Re: ctrl-y does a paste on Mac?)
Excellent utility! I find that with Rev I don't use the message box as often as I used to (in the HCard days) I was much more into using stacks rather than creating them. I will check this out. Thanks Jim On 5/19/07 5:52 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Le 18 mai 07 à 01:57, Jim Ault a écrit : Actually, in Hypercard 1.0, one of the things that Kevin Altis created and I (in my Portland, Oregon days) expanded on was a msg box and command history menu. Very cool to have the most recent commands in a menu that was easy to maintain. You might have a look at Message Box Picker: http:// www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolutionl=en Additional functionalities for the message box: This utility reorganizes the message history and puts the messages into chronological order, deletes any doubles and installs in the message box a drop-down menu that can be completely personalized and that makes it possible to bring up or to send a message with one mouse click. Bilingual utility (installer and uninstaller.) Help stack included. :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box
Shari wrote: Is it safe to remove the Message Box from a standalone? Yes. Rev doesn't normally add it, so you may have done that in the MC IDE. Easiest way to get rid of it is to go back to MC, remove it there with the resource mover, save the stack, and then re-open it in Rev. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 into msg Has got me before now! They can be so hard to find when you are writing lots of stuff to the message box for debugging, and then forget to delete just one of them! This is especially true in a library stack, I had a rouge put xxx in a library that took me ages to track down, I eventually found it in a in function a few levels away from the main API Call! I think an option that turned off the put xxx shortcut would be a good idea! All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
Me too... Thinking aloud, as it were, would a handler like this work? on checkScript pScript repeat for each line L in pScript add 1 to lineCount if put is in L AND into is not in L then put lineCount comma after possibleProblems end repeat put possibleProblems end checkScript I guess we'd need to consider into msg and into message etc... as well as before, after and so on... If we had a completely reliable version, we could even have it comment out those lines. Or has anyone already done this? Mark On 1 Dec 2006, at 11:36, Dave wrote: put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 into msg Has got me before now! They can be so hard to find when you are writing lots of stuff to the message box for debugging, and then forget to delete just one of them! This is especially true in a library stack, I had a rouge put xxx in a library that took me ages to track down, I eventually found it in a in function a few levels away from the main API Call! I think an option that turned off the put xxx shortcut would be a good idea! All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
Hi, Well, I was thinking leave the explicit forms as they are as at least you can do a global find on msg or messagebox, but you can't search for the shorthand version without hitting every put in the whole stack(s). All the Best Dave On 1 Dec 2006, at 12:52, Mark Smith wrote: Me too... Thinking aloud, as it were, would a handler like this work? on checkScript pScript repeat for each line L in pScript add 1 to lineCount if put is in L AND into is not in L then put lineCount comma after possibleProblems end repeat put possibleProblems end checkScript I guess we'd need to consider into msg and into message etc... as well as before, after and so on... If we had a completely reliable version, we could even have it comment out those lines. Or has anyone already done this? Mark On 1 Dec 2006, at 11:36, Dave wrote: put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 into msg Has got me before now! They can be so hard to find when you are writing lots of stuff to the message box for debugging, and then forget to delete just one of them! This is especially true in a library stack, I had a rouge put xxx in a library that took me ages to track down, I eventually found it in a in function a few levels away from the main API Call! I think an option that turned off the put xxx shortcut would be a good idea! All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
On 12/1/06 3:36 AM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has got me before now! They can be so hard to find when you are writing lots of stuff to the message box for debugging, and then forget to delete just one of them! This is especially true in a library stack, I had a rouge put xxx in a library that took me ages to track down, I eventually found it in a in function a few levels away from the main API Call! I think an option that turned off the put xxx shortcut would be a good idea! Chipp Walters used to have something on his site that would do this. Took a quick look and did not find it. Check the archives, but I think the Altuit site has changed so much that old info will be obsolete. Perhaps Chipp may know where it is hiding. PS I always use 'into msg' or 'after msg' so I can find them later. For a short time I always added !! like put fld output !! but got out of the habbit. Of course another way is to make your own lib handler putMsg flag upperTier is fUpperTier on putMsg txtStr put txtStr end putMsg then turn off the 'put txtStr' line or find the putMsg lines Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
Hi Jim and all, IMHO, you guys are making it too hard. I've intentionally developed a habit of always putting test info ' cr after msg'. Then when I'm done, I can easily find all occurrences of 'after msg' and delete'em. No, it's not infallible. And sometimes I cheat (like to clear msg at the start of a 'put after' sequence). But I make my living writing software with Revolution, and I don't have any self-inflicted misery from rogue 'puts'. To me that says something about the effectiveness of the approach. I admit that the 'habit thing' may not be sufficient for every situation. Most of the time I'm the only programmer on my projects, so I generally don't have to collaborate with others at the code level. Your mileage may vary. Ask your doctor if the Habit Way is right for you... :o) My $0.02... Thanks - Phil Davis Jim Ault wrote: On 12/1/06 3:36 AM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has got me before now! They can be so hard to find when you are writing lots of stuff to the message box for debugging, and then forget to delete just one of them! This is especially true in a library stack, I had a rouge put xxx in a library that took me ages to track down, I eventually found it in a in function a few levels away from the main API Call! I think an option that turned off the put xxx shortcut would be a good idea! Chipp Walters used to have something on his site that would do this. Took a quick look and did not find it. Check the archives, but I think the Altuit site has changed so much that old info will be obsolete. Perhaps Chipp may know where it is hiding. PS I always use 'into msg' or 'after msg' so I can find them later. For a short time I always added !! like put fld output !! but got out of the habbit. Of course another way is to make your own lib handler putMsg flag upperTier is fUpperTier on putMsg txtStr put txtStr end putMsg then turn off the 'put txtStr' line or find the putMsg lines Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
Hello, For all who don't have Galaxy, I have uploaded last year a stack on RevOnline: User: sosmartsoftware Stack: Smart Script Search Description: This utility parses all scripts in any open stack searching for lines of code where any string is present AND any another one is absent. Its main purpose, but it's configurable, is to find orphan puts... Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 1 déc. 06 à 20:28, Stephen Barncard a écrit : just for the record, Jerry Daniel's Galaxy has a feature where you put *put into the search field and it will find all the 'dangling puts'. Use it all the time. Hi Jim and all, IMHO, you guys are making it too hard. I've intentionally developed a habit of always putting test info ' cr after msg'. Then when I'm done, I can easily find all occurrences of 'after msg' and delete'em. -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
Hi Charles - Charles Szasz wrote: The following script works but each it works the Message Box appears although there is nothing in the script to tell it to appear. After I close the Message Box, it reappears again when I run the script. The Message Box appears even when the Development Tools are suspended. I read sections of the Rev PDF Manual about the Message Box but I cannot find anything to explain why the Message Box appears! on mouseUp put 51 into tage put tAge,field subFld,field rsFld into theMatch repeat for each line theMatch2 in the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 Here's the line that makes the message box appear: put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 Any time (in the IDE) when you 'put' something without an 'into', it's going to go into the message box. (In standalone apps you don't see anything; the data is 'put' into the bit bucket.) HTH - Phil Davis if item 1 to 3 of theMatch = item 1 to 3 of theMatch2 then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld put item 5 of theMatch2 into field perFld exit repeat end if end repeat end mouseUp Does anyone have an idea why the Message Box appears Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box appears
On 11/30/06 7:32 PM, Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following script works but each it works the Message Box appears although there is nothing in the script to tell it to appear. ...excerpt of script put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 --is the same thing as put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 into msg --which tells Rev to display using the msg box Jim Ault Las Vegas On 11/30/06 7:32 PM, Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following script works but each it works the Message Box appears although there is nothing in the script to tell it to appear. After I close the Message Box, it reappears again when I run the script. The Message Box appears even when the Development Tools are suspended. I read sections of the Rev PDF Manual about the Message Box but I cannot find anything to explain why the Message Box appears! on mouseUp put 51 into tage put tAge,field subFld,field rsFld into theMatch repeat for each line theMatch2 in the scaledScore [memoryforstories] of field data1 put the scaledScore[memoryforstories] of field data1 if item 1 to 3 of theMatch = item 1 to 3 of theMatch2 then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld put item 5 of theMatch2 into field perFld exit repeat end if end repeat end mouseUp Does anyone have an idea why the Message Box appears ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
Hi, Are you typing openFIle as one word? It is two separate words - open file and close file etc. All the Best Dave On 22 Mar 2006, at 23:25, thulme wrote: set the defaultFolder to /Users/myusername/Desktop/ Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt put the result Then hit the enter key. If there is an error 'the result' should contain information about the error. Verified I have permissions (Win XP) and entered the two line above in multiline. I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler If I enter closeFile command i get result of : file not open -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box-- t1327177.html#a3543393 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On Mar 22, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Devin Asay wrote: snip Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt ^^^ open file myfile.txt ## oops! put the result Sorry for the confusion. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On Mar 22, 2006, at 3:40 PM, thulme wrote: Hi All, I'm a newbie reading through Dan Shafer's ebook. My question has to do with page 273 of the book which states that typing (open file MyToDo.txt) into the message box will create a file if none exisits. Nothing gets created when I do this. All that happens is the line I entered gets highlighted. No file created and no error message is displayed in the result frame. I have entered other commands and they work ok. Can anyone (Dan) explain what I'm doing wrong? One common reason for this to happen is that you do not have write permission for the defaultFolder. (It's more of a problem on Unix and Mac OS X systems.) On startup, the defaultFolder property is always set to the folder that contains the Revolution application. Not all users on a system will have write access to that folder. Try changing the defaultFolder to a folder that you do have write permission for (I'm assuming OSX here): set the defaultFolder to /Users/myusername/Desktop/ Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt put the result Then hit the enter key. If there is an error 'the result' should contain information about the error. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
set the defaultFolder to /Users/myusername/Desktop/ Then try it again. Chances are it will work this time. If this doesn't fix it, try switching to the multi-line message box and enter: openFile myfile.txt put the result Then hit the enter key. If there is an error 'the result' should contain information about the error. Verified I have permissions (Win XP) and entered the two line above in multiline. I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler If I enter closeFile command i get result of : file not open -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box--t1327177.html#a3543393 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
Figured it out - have to hit enter key twice - then file shows up in my defalut folder. Go figure! Thanks Devin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Message-Box--t1327177.html#a3543696 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On 23 Mar 2006, at 00:25, thulme wrote: openFile myfile.txt put the result I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler Hi Thulme, This means you should have a handler on openFile or you can enter in the msg box: open file myfile.txt Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
Jerry, The multi-line message box will execute if the actual enter key is depressed. The key on many machines that says enter on it, may, in Rev's view, actually be the return key and generate a returnInfield message for the multi-line message box. On most machines (esp. laptops), holding down the function key and depressing the actual return key will result in an enterInField message to be sent to the message box. On desktop machines, most of their keyboards have an actual enter key at the bottom right corner. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Jerry Muelver wrote: Shouldn't the Message Box execute after several lines of code when you press Enter on a blank line? Doesn't happen in RR 2.6.1 Linux. Nothing in the docs (that I can find) on the use of Message Box... or on compiling to standalone... nothing on locking or passwording or otherwise protecting stacks... no Help buttons in most IDE dialogs... Help button in Choose Directory dialog does nothing... I'm trying to get set to expose my first RR app to the eager consuming public, and these little snags (probably due to my own inexperience) are knotting my knickers a bit. Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
From: Jerry Daniels Jerry, The multi-line message box will execute if the actual enter key is depressed. The key on many machines that says enter on it, may, in Rev's view, actually be the return key and generate a returnInfield message for the multi-line message box. On most machines (esp. laptops), holding down the function key and depressing the actual return key will result in an enterInField message to be sent to the message box. On desktop machines, most of their keyboards have an actual enter key at the bottom right corner. Thanks, Jerry. I should have known a Jerry would have the right answer! My two desktop machines have two Enter keys, one by the Shift key, and one on the keypad. Two of my Intel-based laptops have one Enter key, by the Shift key, as does my NEC palmtop. Only my Mac G3 has both an Enter key (by the space bar) and a Return key (by the Shift key). It turns out, experimenting on the inspiration provided by your elucidation, that on my desktop the keypad Enter key will trigger the action, as will Ctrl-Enter on the keyboard. I'm sure this is in the documentation, right at... er... um I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. (mumble-mumble, grumble, ratzn-fratz, drat-it...) The Original Jerry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
Jerry Muelver wrote: I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. I use the distinction all the time. In card-based databases (think address book for example,) it is common to have multi-line fields which function as cells. Returns are accepted as part of the data. Enterkey is accepted to set the data and move to the next cell. This is pretty common for many types of databases. I have also created a multi-field table object that acts the same way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
From: J. Landman Gay Jerry Muelver wrote: I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. I use the distinction all the time. In card-based databases (think address book for example,) it is common to have multi-line fields which function as cells. Returns are accepted as part of the data. Enterkey is accepted to set the data and move to the next cell. This is pretty common for many types of databases. I have also created a multi-field table object that acts the same way. I see. Well, in 24 years of computing, I've never, until the G3, even SEEN a keyboard with both Enter and Return keys. The distinction must be a Mac thing. In the database apps I've programmed and used, single-line entries were always completed by either Tab or Enter (the one next to the shift keys) as optional moves to set and move to the next field, and multi-line entries allowed Enter within the cell and Tab to set and move on. I think the Enter/Return distinction is too clever by half (the RR Message Box icon tooltip for Single Line says Press Return to execute, and the Multiline tip reads Press Enter to execute, and all my keys say Enter), and I will never require my users to juggle such capriciousness. I'm beginning to understand how the FBI paid $750 million for a computer software project that doesn't work. I'll bet the programmers called for Return and all the keyboards were Enter type, and the poor agents were fumbling around looking for the AnyKey to press Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
On 12/29/05 8:43 AM, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see. Well, in 24 years of computing, I've never, until the G3, even SEEN a keyboard with both Enter and Return keys. The distinction must be a Mac thing. Actually, Micorsoft Excel 1.0 and forward has always used both the ReturnKey and EnterKey as two distinctive keyboard codes since MS introduced the features of textboxes on a spreadsheet that could contain returns (word processing linefeeds). Yes, it was a Mac-only version and shipped with the first Macs (1984) Of course, Windows wasn't part of the landscape, but when it came out, 3.0 had Excel as one of the apps. Now, on Windows or Mac, a single cell in Excel can do word wrap and line feeds. These line feeds are not the same as hitting the ReturnKey on either the Mac or Windows. Then along came desktop publishing and blurred the definitions of line feeds, embedded tabs, and proprietary formats for text, text blocks, page layout, graphic formats, and printing commands. Welcome to the soup :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
Jerry Muelver wrote: I see. Well, in 24 years of computing, I've never, until the G3, even SEEN a keyboard with both Enter and Return keys. The distinction must be a Mac thing. It's a bit older than that, for those of us who remember typewriters. :) The Return key was labeled as such more than a century ago, a reference to the paper carriage returning to the left side of the typewriter so the writer can begin a new line. The Enter key is a new construct introduced with computers. It's placed away from the traditional keys, down by the numeric keypad with the other recent keyboard additions unique to computing. Each key generates a different key code. So these keys are not the same, neither in their origin nor their current resulting key code. Yet PC manufacturers label these two different keys as if they are the same. Why make one thing and label it something else? Beats me. All I know is that it's been this way for so long among PC manufacturers that many application designers have had to treat both Return and Enter as snynomous in terms of user gestures. But as Jacque pointed out, this isn't always the case. Some use Enter for entering (confirming) input, while reserving Return for advancing to the next line. What the software designer does with these keys will depend on the context in which they're used. As far as Rev goes, as long as the keyboard generates different codes for each key it seems reasonable to maintain a distinction between them in Transcript's messages. If the software designer wants to treat them as synonymous they're only three lines away from doing so: on returnKey enterKey end returnKey -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
You are mistaken. Return and Enter are different and are both useful. I use EnterInField in a field script to execute Transcript snippets or MYSQL code in a field. Return is needed to ... ummm... put returns in the text!! I'm using a standard off the shelf Mac keyboard with my G4 Aluminum 17. The laptop has an enter key as well, next to the right apple key. sqb At 10:06 -0600 12/29/05, Jerry Muelver wrote: I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. (mumble-mumble, grumble, ratzn-fratz, drat-it...) The Original Jerry -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
On 12/29/05 10:43 AM, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see. Well, in 24 years of computing, I've never, until the G3, even SEEN a keyboard with both Enter and Return keys. The distinction must be a Mac thing. Well, yes, sort of. Basically the ASCII codes that are used for going to the next line differ by platform. ASCII(13) is a true carriage return (CR) that draws its origins from the old typewriters (as Richard mentioned). ASCII(10) is the line feed (LF) character, that was used (at least) on ancient computer terminals (especially those with built-in dot matrix printers) to move the display/paper up a line. In those days, the LF didn't return the carriage to the beginning of the next line. On the keyboard, the key above the shift key (labeled Return on Mac and Enter on Windows/Linux) is supposed to implement the CR, and the key on the keypad is supposed to implement the LF. When Windows was created, it set the end-of-line (EOL) method to be CR+LF; Macs (pre OS X) used CR only, and Unix machines used LF only (IIRC). So because Windows didn't make the distinction between the two characters, both keys on the keyboard mapped to the CR+LF combination and were labeled as Enter. And although the raw key codes are different (65293 for return and 65421 for enter), they get mapped to the same result. Here's a simple test - create a stack in Windows with one field with the following script: on rawKeyDown pKey put pKey the keysDown end rawKeyDown Switch to browse, click in the field and hit the return and enter keys... here's what you get: return key: 65293 65293 enter key:65421 65293 On Macs, the distinction is kept, which is why the keys are mapped to different results - using the test above, this is what you get: return key: 65293 65293 enter key:65421 65421 And I'd assume Linux is doing something similar to Windows (I don't have Linux handy to test at the moment). However on all platforms the raw key codes are different between the two keys so they really are different keys. The other thing to take into account is that Revolution came from MetaCard, which was implemented as an xTalk for Unix (originally), and so it was designed to be HyperCard for Unix and as such the 'returnKey'/'enterKey' and 'returnInField'/'enterInField' came from HyperCard originally and were implemented in MetaCard (now Rev) as well. Hope this helps, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
- Original Message - From: Ken Ray ... Hope this helps, Certainly, it does, Ken. However, that doesn't explain why the tooltips in the Message Box would make the distinction without a clue about how to follow the instructions on a Enter key-only keyboard. Oh well, I know now, and can get rich by selling the information to other RR newbies. Now, [OT] if anyone wants to know why you have to produce charts in different keys for C, Bb, Eb, and F instruments in order to get them to play the same notes in a concert key in unison, I'll be happy to sell that information too. It is a silliness of the same quality, but several orders of magnitude greater. I'll never understand why people get into creating these little fixes for the wrong problems (see http://allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?Fix_the_wrong_problem ), without asking me, first. Okay, back to coding, everybody! Many happy Returns/Enters! Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box, multiple lines
Jerry, I just have both message handlers (enterInField and returnInField) in my fields and they both call the same command if they both have the same functionality. There are good reasons to have them separate, I believe. Some fields take carriage returns in their text, but the enter key should still make the default button activate. My 2 cents. Best, Jerry Daniels Tool makers for the 21st century http://www.daniels-mara.com/products On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Jerry Muelver wrote: I submit that the distinction between returnInField and enterInField is absurd for text-entry applications like program editors and dialog boxes, and is of extremely limited utility for numeric entry applications. In fact, I doubt that anyone can provide an example supporting the rationale for not merging the Return and Enter key for good for all applications. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box problem
Hi Jon, Work perfectly here: the owner of the target is card Single Line which is true since the target is the field where you type. Restarting Rev, may be without plug-ins open at start-up and any stack open might help you to find where is the dysfunction. But I don't think it's in the Rev IDE but elsewhere in third parties products.. as your own open stacks :-) Le 9 juil. 05 à 15:59, Jon a écrit : I've not used the message box much before. I just tried to enter a phrase (the owner of the target), to see what its value was. I probably am using the MB incorrectly, but in any event, I can only type one word before the keyboard stops working: if I try to type the owner of... I only see the; if I try to type owner of I only see owner; if I try to type the owner of... I only see the. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box problem
Jon. Definitely an anomaly related to something local to your situation. Message Box has worked well from the very early releases. Dan On Jul 9, 2005, at 6:59 AM, Jon wrote: I've not used the message box much before. I just tried to enter a phrase (the owner of the target), to see what its value was. I probably am using the MB incorrectly, but in any event, I can only type one word before the keyboard stops working: if I try to type the owner of... I only see the; if I try to type owner of I only see owner; if I try to type the owner of... I only see the. I must be missing something. Too bad there's no help button on the Message box. I thought you could type any Rev statement in there and it would be evaluated. I just looked up message box in the dictionary, and all it says is that it evaluates expressions. :( Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box hides, then does not reappear
Jim Ault wrote: The issue is that I have progress messages being put and when I drop into the debugStop, the edit window comes forward, I can stepIn and so on, but when I click RUN, the message box remains hidden. Is there a way to get the message box to show again after the script edit window has gained focus with my mouse click? My current work around is to also post the progress message to a fld on the current card. typing ctrl-M does it for me - but that may depend on whether or not you're allowing messages (events) to be processed while you are creating the progress messages. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box (multiline) strangeness
Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve experienced something weird... snip I´m a bit puzzled... calling the script from a button gives the correct result. Does anyone know what´s happening here? Os X.2.6 Rev 2.2 and 2.5 Same result in WinXP, Rev 2.5 Only - it's even stranger . I changed the mult-line script to put 5 into abc put first abc cr after msg put mytest(the loc of this stack, the loc of this stack) into abc put second abc cr after msg (I changed the function name to mytest just in case, and I changed the function to return a fixed value instead of calling paramcount() - neither made any difference). This ALSO results in the output 1 (what happened to the strings first and second, and the fact there were two lines of output ??) Deleting the line that calls mytest results in the rather more expected output of first 5 second 5 Very strange -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box not functioning
On 8/5/04 4:18 PM, cteno4 wrote: ok, im finally starting to move over to the rev programming interface from good olde mc programming interface. I have run into one small problem with a metacard created stack in rev is that i cant get the message box to function if any of my mc created stacks are set as the defaultstack. if i create a new rev stack and lock that as the default stack then i can send messages to my stacks via the message box if i append the stack name to the message (ie show image test of stack mcstack). but as soon as any of the mc created stack are the defaultstack then messages just go off to never never land. what am i doing wrong here? feeling a bit stupid here... thanks. Do you have the MC message box stack embedded as a substack in your MC stacks? That creates a conflict which acts as you describe. The easiest way to deal with this situation is to open the stack in MC and delete the message box substack from there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Message Box useage from scripts
actually it's easier than that... put the time -- no need to put into msg but you can... put the date after msg put empty -- clear msg Im coming up with a stack soon that will let you record and save and reuse the msg history... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeanne A. E. DeVoto Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 01:48 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Message Box useage from scripts At 10:38 AM -0700 7/25/2004, Jim Ault wrote: How do I set the command line in the message box? None of the documentation or examples I have read covers this. (I have read Receipe for Find field). I am an old Hypercard programmer. [...] Is there a message box property to set? Is there a message to send up the heirarchy? There's no supported API for it, although since the message box is just a stack, you can use something like put Hey there into field Message Field of stack Message Box This might stop working in the future if the Rev developers work on the message box and change the field name, though. You might want to consider using a field in your stack, or else a substack, to hold the find command - then use a returnKey handler in the field with do the text of me to execute what's in the field. This approach provides you with a cheap message box that's under your control. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box useage from scripts
On Jul 25, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Jim Ault wrote: Desired behavior 1) The goal is to allow control-click of a word in a unlocked field to be put into the message box as 'find textStr', thus the user can simply hit the enterkey to continue to find occurrences. Perhaps you can make your own to work the way you want. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box useage from scripts
At 10:38 AM -0700 7/25/2004, Jim Ault wrote: How do I set the command line in the message box? None of the documentation or examples I have read covers this. (I have read Receipe for Find field). I am an old Hypercard programmer. [...] Is there a message box property to set? Is there a message to send up the heirarchy? There's no supported API for it, although since the message box is just a stack, you can use something like put Hey there into field Message Field of stack Message Box This might stop working in the future if the Rev developers work on the message box and change the field name, though. You might want to consider using a field in your stack, or else a substack, to hold the find command - then use a returnKey handler in the field with do the text of me to execute what's in the field. This approach provides you with a cheap message box that's under your control. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box with vertical scroll bar
--- Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to equip the message box with a vertical scroll bar? Greg Have you tried it ? -- Just kidding, it should be possible ; here's a recipe : - Menu 'Edit' Item 'Preferences' - go to the 'General' panel, then tick the checkbox 'Contextual menus work in Revolution windows' - Then hold down the Ctrl+Alt+Shift keys, and right-click on the field you want to give scrollbars - In the contextual menu, pick the item 'Property Inspector' - Now turn on the vertical scrollbar using the palette You may have to explicitly issue save stack Message box for it to stick between sessions. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Message Box with vertical scroll bar
recipee first show the message box second in the msg put the windows... you see message box... create a stack with a button with script to locate the fields on mouseup set the defaultstack to message box put the number of fields into controlsnum repeat with x = 1 to controlsnum put the short name of field x cr after nulist end repeat put nulist end mouseup so now you type... set the vscrollbar of fld Message Field of stack message box to true or set the vscrollbar of fld result of stack message box to true you might want to resize the fields though (left as an excercise...) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gregory Lypny Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 20:24 To: Revolution Subject: Message Box with vertical scroll bar Is it possible to equip the message box with a vertical scroll bar? Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
I obtain 8 if I type put somme(3,5). There is a bug in msg box, if I type put somme (3,5) with a blank, Rev give me 3. I have never seen in doc that it is necessary to put the name of function and the parameters between brackets without blank. Alain Bois Le 30 mars 04, à 00:15, Dar Scott a écrit : On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 01:31 PM, Alain Bois wrote: When I used Hypercard, if I have this handler function somme a,b return a + b end somme and I wrote in msg box put somme (3,5) I obtain 8. With Rev I obtain 3. the first argument only, why? Bug or option with msg box ? I get 8. (I put the function in a stack script and started using it.) In Revolution 3+empty is 3. Maybe there is something strange about the second parameter. :-) Could you have misspelled b? :-) (I get mixed up about where commas can go in parameter declarations, but this seems to work fine as you typed it.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
By using the doc, I try function reversedName firstName,lastName -- firstName and lastName are parameters put lastName,firstName into constructedName return constructedName end reversedName If I type put put reversedName(fdfs,azaa) it's good but I type put reversedName (fdfs,azaa) Tev output ,azaa. Why? Le 30 mars 04, à 03:48, Dar Scott a écrit : On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 06:11 PM, j wrote: of course, you can do the same thing with revolution's built-in sum() function, making this all pretty academic. BTW, here is a tip for those who have avoided using sum() and similar functions. I read the documentation as this function having only one parameter. That is, the commas in the example were operator commas and not parameter separator commas. I saw the interesting parsing of parameters of format() as an example of that kind of thing, so I was not surprised. My concern was that numberFormat might limit digits in the arithmetic. I didn't use it. However, I now know that I read the doc wrong. The function sum() and max() can have multiple parameters and are not forced to have a single parameter of a comma delimited string. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 01:31 PM, Alain Bois wrote: When I used Hypercard, if I have this handler function somme a,b return a + b end somme and I wrote in msg box put somme (3,5) I obtain 8. With Rev I obtain 3. the first argument only, why? Bug or option with msg box ? I get 8. (I put the function in a stack script and started using it.) In Revolution 3+empty is 3. Maybe there is something strange about the second parameter. :-) Could you have misspelled b? :-) (I get mixed up about where commas can go in parameter declarations, but this seems to work fine as you typed it.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
Alan Bois wrote: When I used Hypercard, if I have this handler function somme a,b return a + b end somme and I wrote in msg box put somme (3,5) I obtain 8. With Rev I obtain 3. the first argument only, why? Bug or option with msg box ? Thanks for answers. I suspect it's a message box bug. put somme(3,5) Works as expected, the difference being there is no space character between the function name and the parenthesis Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
function somme a,b return a + b end somme works here, also. check for typing errors. as someone else indicated, function name must abut the opening parenthesis: somme(3,5). you don't even need to use put before the function, if executed from the message box. i have always loved this one, myself: function sumThese put 0 into theTotal repeat with i = 1 to the paramCount() add param(i) to theTotal end repeat return theTotal end sumThese no need to submit only two numbers to add this way. :) of course, you can do the same thing with revolution's built-in sum() function, making this all pretty academic. j. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 06:11 PM, j wrote: of course, you can do the same thing with revolution's built-in sum() function, making this all pretty academic. BTW, here is a tip for those who have avoided using sum() and similar functions. I read the documentation as this function having only one parameter. That is, the commas in the example were operator commas and not parameter separator commas. I saw the interesting parsing of parameters of format() as an example of that kind of thing, so I was not surprised. My concern was that numberFormat might limit digits in the arithmetic. I didn't use it. However, I now know that I read the doc wrong. The function sum() and max() can have multiple parameters and are not forced to have a single parameter of a comma delimited string. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box
Thanks, I have tried others functions and effectly it's a problem with parenthesis. Le 30 mars 04, à 00:42, Martin Baxter a écrit : Alan Bois wrote: When I used Hypercard, if I have this handler function somme a,b return a + b end somme and I wrote in msg box put somme (3,5) I obtain 8. With Rev I obtain 3. the first argument only, why? Bug or option with msg box ? Thanks for answers. I suspect it's a message box bug. put somme(3,5) Works as expected, the difference being there is no space character between the function name and the parenthesis Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box - top half
On 9 Mar 2004, at 10:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get a script to put text into the TOP half of the message box? I have some HyperCard scripts that put text into the msg box, ready for the user to (edit and) execute the command, that I would like to transfer to Rev. Untested, but should work, although not guaranteed to keep working in future releases: put myData into fld Message Field of cd Single Line of stack Message Box or put myData into fld Message Field of cd Multiple Lines of stack Message Box Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box woes editing Revolution
--- WIlliam Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Typing a command and hitting return in Message box results in no action. Whats the deal? Hi Bill, There are two types of message boxes : a 1-line message box and a multiple-line message box. You can toggle by clicking the two left-most buttons in the toolbar of the Message box window. If you are on the one-line message box, and you typed a command and hit return, and no error appears below, then it must have worked, but maybe there was no visible result. What command were you trying ? Also how do I move the Edit script submenu item to a button on the inspector palette? I spend much time editing scripts which ammounts to 1. select object 2. edit group 3. find inspector under some other window 4. hold down drop down menu 5. select edit script 6. find script window under other windows. You could use the Application Browser (in the 'Tools' menu) and right-click on the object whose script you want to edit. Another aproach is to click the 'Select grouped' button in the toolbar first, so you can select individual objects within groups ; then you can once again right-click on the object, or click the 'Script' button in the toolbar. There must be a way of making this app intuitive and to do things I expect it to do. Check out the Preferences (in the 'Edit' menu) to customise some behaviour of the Application Browser and the contextual menus. You can even edit the script of object by merely hovering over them and pressing a key combination. Revolution is moving my windows around to make room for that toolbar at the top of the screen. I've spent a lot of time adjusting my interface for my users sake, this revolution move your interface glitch is not welcome. You can always tinker the content of the global 'windowBoundingRect' property. Thanks. Bill Griffin Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box woes editing Revolution
Actually, I am having what sounds like the same problem with the message box, and have been avoiding it but putting things into temporary button scripts. For example, I create a new stack, create a button, then type hide button 1 into the msg box, and hit return. The button doesn't hide, the command I typed remains in the message box, with the insertion point blinking at the end of the command, and the results section remains unchanged. This is in Rev 2.01, under Windows XP Home. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box woes editing Revolution
Hi Bill, Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. I'm sure that between us on this list we can find solutions to a lot of them. 1. Message box: Try pressing Enter instead of Return. That way it will work if you are in single line or multi line mode (the mode is show as part of the message box window title). Test it with something really simple like put 1 + 2. This will separate the message box test from any development you are doing and let you see if it really is the box or if something else is going wrong. Also, reboot Rev and try using the message box before opening any stacks. 2. Editing: there are numerous shortcuts for editing. Test them out and use the one that suits you. Obviously using the inspector's popup menu is not right for your workflow. The other options are: Command-E (Mac) or Control-E (Windows) Command-option hover (Mac) or Control-alt hover (Win) The Script button in the toolbar The contextual menu that pops up when you right-click or control-click on an object. 3. Editing an object in a group: you don't have to be in edit group mode. Turn on Select Grouped Controls in the Edit menu, or toggle Select Grouped in the toolbar and you can select grouped objects directly. 4. Toolbar: if you resent the space it takes up, then turn it off. In the View menu there are two option: Toolbar text and Toolbar icons. Unchecking both of these turns off the bar completely but you may fine that leaving just text on gives you enough room. All the toolbar functions are available from the menus so you wont lose anything. In an environment like Rev, there are nearly always multiple ways of doing everything whether while scripting or designing. If you don't like the way things are happening, there is very likely to be at least one alternative. Check the shortcuts section of the Docs for some more ideas. I wrote a function key plugin - FunKey.rev can be downloaded from my web page http://www.troz.net/Rev/ - which allows you to assign scripts to the function keys. I use this to speed up my workflow and make frequent used commands and menu items into a single keystroke. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 12:39 am, WIlliam Griffin wrote: Typing a command and hitting return in Message box results in no action. Whats the deal? Also how do I move the Edit script submenu item to a button on the inspector palette? I spend much time editing scripts which ammounts to 1. select object 2. edit group 3. find inspector under some other window 4. hold down drop down menu 5. select edit script 6. find script window under other windows. There must be a way of making this app intuitive and to do things I expect it to do. Revolution is moving my windows around to make room for that toolbar at the top of the screen. I've spent a lot of time adjusting my interface for my users sake, this revolution move your interface glitch is not welcome. Thanks. Bill Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.igame3d.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box woes editing Revolution
Hi Bill, Do you have a returnKey or enterKey handler in your stack or in a frontScript? That might be trapping the key in the message box and stopping it from working. Cheers, Sarah On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 12:22 pm, WIlliam Griffin wrote: reboot Rev and try using the message box before opening any stacks. Test it with something really simple like put 1 + 2. --- That works with return as it should Until my stack is open, then it does not work. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message box in standalones
In a message dated 04/16/2002 1:03:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible to include the message box and its functions in standalone applications? Jack ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Sure -- but there is a lot to the message box that you probably don't need. Do you really want people to be able to examine front scripts, global variables, etc.? -- regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Geoff-How do you add the message box to stand alones-I'd like to experiment with it! Jack
Re: Message box in standalones
Is it possible to include the message box and its functions in standalone applications? Jack ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Sure -- but there is a lot to the message box that you probably don't need. Do you really want people to be able to examine front scripts, global variables, etc.? -- regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
V111-b1 (was Re: message box vanishes)
launching the Win version... Perhaps there should be some kind of reset button in furture versions... ... :-) This problem (and others) is fixed in beta 1 of 1.1.1, available from: http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines11/beta111 Kevin I installed the b version. Everything OK. Several bugs fixed indeed. The first time I launched Rev ask me where was 'File Exchange'. Why? André ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box vanishes
For those who can't find the msg box with Rev 1.1 and Windows, here is another way in addition to what has already been posted. Select 'Rev UI Stack in Lists' (View Menu) and in the Application Overview select revmessagebox.rev. Select properties and get the stack script. In dimensions, set the location to values that will be within your screen size. Thanks. That was it! But the fact is that I first reinstalled the 1.1 version: I had several system crashes. But I still got the same problem! Thus I used your trick... I think the message box stack is outside a 800x600 screen when first launching the Win version... Perhaps there should be some kind of reset button in furture versions... ... :-) André ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box vanishes
At 1:01 PM +0100 12/29/01, Andre Rombauts wrote: I'm using Win and Mac versions as I'll have to develop on both platforms (and on Linux, later on...). on Mac everything is fine (...). On Win the message box cannot be displayed anymore. What could have happened? What could have lead to this situation? Is there any switch preventing it from displaying? It could simply be off screen. Create a stack with a field and a button and put this in the button and then click the button: on mouseUp put the loc of stack message box into fld info end mouseUp if it gives you some odd co-ordinates, you can set the loc to 100,100 to get it back. You could also check the visible of the message box stack. If it's false, set it to true. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: message box vanishes
André, That could be due to the message box having been moved outside of the visible screen area. I've done that myself sometimes with Rev and with other apps. Perhaps you can try scripting a test stack to make the message box appear at specified coordinates to where you could then drag it to a preferred spot. As a last resort, you could reinstall Rev. Hope this helps somewhat, Tommy Simmons Employment Law Advisory Network, Inc. www.employmentlawadvisors.com - Original Message - I'm using Win and Mac versions as I'll have to develop on both platforms (and on Linux, later on...). on Mac everything is fine (...). On Win the message box cannot be displayed anymore. What could have happened? What could have lead to this situation? Is there any switch preventing it from displaying? André ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
