Mobile Template for Iphone/Ipad/Android Version Alpha 004a : new 18 May
Revision Alpha 004a from 18 May: -Multi-Language -Manage visible/hide for fields -Some modifications based on Iphone look -Optimization existing code -Centralized function in MainStack, goal to use same function from different stack, write once your code and use it for Iphone stack, Ipad stack, Android stack and so... Revision Alpha 003 from 28 April: -Splash screen react diferently if you are on IPad/Iphone or in dev -Save/Read configuration file on your IPhone/IPad This version is a template which could help you to prepare the structure of a mobile application, for using it on mobile you need RevMobile. In parallel I'm starting the Mobile Template Generator which will generate this kind of template. Be free to email me some issues, ideas, new features to : fabrice.mul...@me.com I will post more informations on : http://fmuller.posterous.com/ Thanks, Fabrice *** F.LA.M.A Fabrice Muller Phone : +41 (21) 652.18.10 - Fax : +41 (21) 652.18.24 fmuller.fl...@gmail.com fabrice.mul...@pobox.com - fabricemul...@me.com *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Template Iphone/Ipad Version Alpha 003 : new 28 April
Be free to upload and test from RevOnline Revision Alpha 003 from 28 April: -Splash screen react diferently if you are on IPad/Iphone or in dev -Save/Read configuration file on your IPhone/IPad This version is a template which could help you to prepare the structure of a mobile application, for using it on mobile you need RevMobile. At the end the goal will be to have a generator of template for the different mobile device. Feedback are welcome, if you want to receive update directly, feel free to send me an email. Fabrice Muller fabricemul...@me.com *** F.LA.M.A Fabrice Muller Phone : +41 (21) 652.18.10 - Fax : +41 (21) 652.18.24 fabrice.mul...@pobox.com - fabricemul...@me.com *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Ann} pre-Alpha 7 available for revMobile
Dear List Folks,
Today we have made available pre-alpha 7 for iPhone, bringing you the
following new features:
- 'launch url': Now you can place voice calls, open maps or launch
urls using this feature
- 'beep': performs an alert based on the user's settings
- 'the beepSound': configure the sound to use for 'beep'
- 'play': basic support for playing sound files has been added, so you
can play a single sound once or as a loop.
It also implements the following useful and important items:
- 'the fontNames'/'fontStyles()': find out what fonts are installed
- system date/time: use the user's configured locale to format dates
and times
- uniEncode/uniDecode: convert between different text encodings
- specialFolderPath('engine'): get the folder containing the engine
and other bundle resources
You can see more feature information here:
http://www.runrev.com/products/revmobile/iphone-ipad/supported-features/
Today is the last day to get our very special pre-order revMobile
package including Simulcast access and DVDs for the 2010 conference.
If you haven't already signed up you can do so here:
https://secure.runrev.com/store/browse/?product=RVSLMBLEt1]
Read more about revMobile at our revamped minisite
http://www.runrev.com/products/revmobile/overview/
Warm Regards,
Heather Nagey
Customer Services Manager
http://www.runrev.com/
RunRev - Software construction for everyone
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iPhone pre-alpha update
Dear List Folks, We're excited to let you all know that we have churned out another update to the iPhone pre-alpha. We're rather proud of it, as we have added the following features and fixes: - The orientation of the device can now be determined, and an application is notified when the orientation changes. - An application can change its interface orientation at will. - Basic support is present for core location - an application can request updates to the location of the device. - An application can prompt the user to send an email, using the standard iPhone mail composer interface. - Support has been added for 'specialFolderPath()' to allow easy fetching of 'standard' folders. - A bug with file path 'root' problems has been fixed. All paths are now reported relative to the filesystem root, rather than the home directory. - A bug with the mouseLoc returning an incorrect y-coord has been fixed. - A bug with animated gifs not displaying correctly has been fixed. - Disabled controls are no longer considered when working out the target of touch messages (just as it is for mouse messages) - The answer command now returns the chosen button in the 'it' variable as it should This is still designated a pre-alpha since the UI has not yet been added and you still can't build for the App store, but nonetheless, judging from the feedback we're getting from early purchasers, we think you'll find these features interesting, useful and fun! Don't forget to check out our lessons area, which now has a dedicated revMobile section: http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/1004 If you've already purchased, you should now have an email from us letting you know how to get this update. If you haven't, and you want to know more, you can read all about revMobile here: https://secure.runrev.com/store/browse/?product=RVSLMBLE Remember you only have until the end of March now to purchase the special pre-order plus conference Simulcast/DVDs, these benefits will not be part of the package come April 1st. As always if you have any questions about purchasing, email us at supp...@runrev.com . Warm Regards, Heather Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open
On 05/02/2010 04:01, Sivakatirswami wrote: Amazing... we are all mac users here and somehow a recent change broke the site on IE. Working on it... some crazy thing where if there is an https link on a non-secure page, IE this the whole page should be secured. You can just download Hinduism Today Navigator directly from these links. http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavMacAlpha.zip http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavWinAlpha.zip Still no Mac icon with 0.6.9a3 when installed via internal update system from icon-less 0.6.9a2; menu 'MORE'. Country drop-down list is now in alphabetical order. I don't understand why every time I download a new version I have to fill in ALL my details. 0.6.9a3 when installed from web-browser download DOES have an icon! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open
Richmond, When I do the update stuff, the icon goes boom. Don't know the cause yet but I am working on it. As for entering your details everytime you update, err... this is a design mistake on my part, the update fetches the whole app again and in doing this, it overwrites the user data that lives inside the app. Don't think I will be able to address it now, but, there should not be more than 4 updates a year so I guess we're fine. Om shanti andre On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2010 04:01, Sivakatirswami wrote: Amazing... we are all mac users here and somehow a recent change broke the site on IE. Working on it... some crazy thing where if there is an https link on a non-secure page, IE this the whole page should be secured. You can just download Hinduism Today Navigator directly from these links. http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavMacAlpha.zip http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavWinAlpha.zip Still no Mac icon with 0.6.9a3 when installed via internal update system from icon-less 0.6.9a2; menu 'MORE'. Country drop-down list is now in alphabetical order. I don't understand why every time I download a new version I have to fill in ALL my details. 0.6.9a3 when installed from web-browser download DOES have an icon! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open
Amazing... we are all mac users here and somehow a recent change broke the site on IE. Working on it... some crazy thing where if there is an https link on a non-secure page, IE this the whole page should be secured. You can just download Hinduism Today Navigator directly from these links. http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavMacAlpha.zip http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavWinAlpha.zip Matthias Rebbe wrote: Dear Sivakatirswami, your provided link opens fine here in Firefox, but with IE8 under vista, the link opens , i can see the text for a short time and then the main text dissapears. Please see the attached picture, how the website looks. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open (04-Feb-2010 6:41) From:Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org To: improve-revolution-010...@m-r-d.de Namaste, Aloha and Oi from Kauai, Hawaii and Niteroi, Brazil: Hinduism Today and Andre Garzia are happy to announce that the latest incarnation of Hinduism Today Digital Edition has been released under a new name: Hinduism Today Navigator I want to thank both Andre for his hard work on this and Trevor DeVore for the brilliant additions to our RunRev world, the data grid, SQL yoga and GLX that Andre used to build this and RunRev for the new graphic effects which finally make people say Wow, it's beautiful! And to Jerry Daniels for making development process with tRev, so sweet. We would like anyone who has time to hammer hard on this one: http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/wfchannel/index.php?wfc_cid=29 FYI: this is a broadband product (free) We bundle a lot of content with the standalone, for a 30MB download, after that, online line transactions are small unless you ask for a PDF. Send any no holds barred feedback to ka...@hindu.org an...@andregarzia.com Sorry, no Linux version: our media player requires Flash to run inside the RevBrowser window. I'm calling this a beta version but Andre prefers alpha -- in case you find any bugs then we can just say: Well, its an alpha version after all... (smile) but in house tests on 8 different Macs and 10 different Windows users all look good so we are widening the test group to include all RunRev'ers. All the best from Chilly Kauai. When I went for a swim in the Wailua this morning, air was about 54 and the water 65... that's about as cold as it gets here. Thank you for taking the time to try it out. Sivakatirswami ps. Is anyone seeing the 20 pixel menu shift bug? appears as a strip of background at the bottom of the stack/card that should not be there. And if anyone is connecting through a proxy, we would like to know that is working. ___ improve-revolution mailing list improve-revolut...@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/improve-revolution To: improve-revolut...@lists.runrev.com use-revolution@lists.runrev.com an...@andregarzia.com Cc: To: ka...@hindu.org improve-revolut...@lists.runrev.com use-revolution@lists.runrev.com an...@andregarzia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open
Namaste, Aloha and Oi from Kauai, Hawaii and Niteroi, Brazil: Hinduism Today and Andre Garzia are happy to announce that the latest incarnation of Hinduism Today Digital Edition has been released under a new name: Hinduism Today Navigator I want to thank both Andre for his hard work on this and Trevor DeVore for the brilliant additions to our RunRev world, the data grid, SQL yoga and GLX that Andre used to build this and RunRev for the new graphic effects which finally make people say Wow, it's beautiful! And to Jerry Daniels for making development process with tRev, so sweet. We would like anyone who has time to hammer hard on this one: http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/wfchannel/index.php?wfc_cid=29 FYI: this is a broadband product (free) We bundle a lot of content with the standalone, for a 30MB download, after that, online line transactions are small unless you ask for a PDF. Send any no holds barred feedback to ka...@hindu.org an...@andregarzia.com Sorry, no Linux version: our media player requires Flash to run inside the RevBrowser window. I'm calling this a beta version but Andre prefers alpha -- in case you find any bugs then we can just say: Well, its an alpha version after all... (smile) but in house tests on 8 different Macs and 10 different Windows users all look good so we are widening the test group to include all RunRev'ers. All the best from Chilly Kauai. When I went for a swim in the Wailua this morning, air was about 54 and the water 65... that's about as cold as it gets here. Thank you for taking the time to try it out. Sivakatirswami ps. Is anyone seeing the 20 pixel menu shift bug? appears as a strip of background at the bottom of the stack/card that should not be there. And if anyone is connecting through a proxy, we would like to know that is working. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A quick note about RR Alpha 4 and older forms of Linux
Just to say that RevMedia alpha release for Linux (dp3) does not work on Ubuntu 5.10, but it does on 8.04. Where the cut-off is between 5.10 and 8.04 I don't know. This is really only relevant to people who wish to deploy RevMedia for teaching purposes on fairly old, low-spec PCs. I have yet to see if RR Studio 4 dp-4 can spin off standalones that will function on Ubuntu 5.10. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Wow, Kabooey, Shazaam and other infantile comic-style silly noises! Came back from the village and was thrilled about the revMedia alpha release. HOWEVER; the link mucked up Firefox, Safari and SeaMonkey on the G4 Mac, this appeared to be caused by the program (err, plugin??) that launched when I navigated to http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/: froze the browser! so had to apply from the Ubuntu box via Firefox: a rather 'round-about' way of doing things; but, Hey, I'm a cross-platform kind of guy [and before some of you get overexcited that was cross-platform not cross-gender . . . :)] If a program/plugin launched when I went to http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/ with Firefox on Ubuntu (8.0.4.3 LTS) it certainl wasn't visible and did not muck up the browser. Anyway; off to teach the kiddos this afternoon and then I shall start playing around. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Of course the follow-on from my posting is how I should go about installing the revWeb plugin ifevery time I go to the page the browser stops functioning??? On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, Kabooey, Shazaam and other infantile comic-style silly noises! Came back from the village and was thrilled about the revMedia alpha release. HOWEVER; the link mucked up Firefox, Safari and SeaMonkey on the G4 Mac, this appeared to be caused by the program (err, plugin??) that launched when I navigated to http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/: froze the browser! so had to apply from the Ubuntu box via Firefox: a rather 'round-about' way of doing things; but, Hey, I'm a cross-platform kind of guy [and before some of you get overexcited that was cross-platform not cross-gender . . . :)] If a program/plugin launched when I went to http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/ with Firefox on Ubuntu (8.0.4.3 LTS) it certainl wasn't visible and did not muck up the browser. Anyway; off to teach the kiddos this afternoon and then I shall start playing around. -- - Lifelong learning is living. - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Hi, I just want to show you that RevMedia is being picked up by the Dutch Apple community. http://macfreak.nl/cgi-bin/forums/topic.cgi?forum=16topic=7428 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and get found! If you sent me an e-mail before 8th July and haven't got a reply yet, please send me a reminder. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Ludovic Thébault ludovic.theba...@laposte.net wrote: Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X I tried it ONCE -- with http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/testtrack.html As it was the first time it asked for downloading the plugin - I did it - and gazed at the bad drivers :-) The subsequent tries lead me to Safari is not responding ;- Safari 4.0.2 Mac OS X 10.5.7 iMac G5 (PowerPC chip) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dom wrote: The subsequent tries lead me to Safari is not responding ;- Good point. Load this: http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/testtrack.html and while watching the cars do a page reload. You'll be left having to Force Quit Safari. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Colin Holgate wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dom wrote: The subsequent tries lead me to Safari is not responding ;- Good point. Load this: http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/testtrack.html and while watching the cars do a page reload. You'll be left having to Force Quit Safari. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution t.r.ying this in Safari (G4 dual processor, late model Mirror Door, 2 GB RAM), and after 4 minutes nothing has loaded at all. Had to Force Quit. Ditto Firefox . . . SeaMonkey just comes along with a waiting for www.runrev.com message (possibly the plug-in does not work with SeaMonkey). . . just checked back, similar 4 minute freeze. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
On 23/07/2009 16:13, Dom mcd...@free.fr wrote: Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X I tried it ONCE -- with http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/testtrack.html As it was the first time it asked for downloading the plugin - I did it - and gazed at the bad drivers :-) The subsequent tries lead me to Safari is not responding ;- If the plugin crashes, it may leave behind a revWebPlayer process which you can see in Activity Monitor or Task Manager even after you exit the browser. Try killing off this process and reloading the browser. We'll nail this issue shortly. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: If the plugin crashes, it may leave behind a revWebPlayer process I checked, and there were three of them still open (with no browser pages open at the time). Force quitting those and trying the page again would work fine, I could do page reloads over and over, and still there was only the one revWebPlayer on the go. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Kevin Miller wrote: On 23/07/2009 16:13, Dom mcd...@free.fr wrote: Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X I tried it ONCE -- with http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/rev/testtrack.html As it was the first time it asked for downloading the plugin - I did it - and gazed at the bad drivers :-) The subsequent tries lead me to Safari is not responding ;- If the plugin crashes, it may leave behind a revWebPlayer process which you can see in Activity Monitor or Task Manager even after you exit the browser. Try killing off this process and reloading the browser. We'll nail this issue shortly. Kind regards, Kevin Good Lord, Yes! After my 3 attempts: Safari, Firefox and SeaMonkey Activity Monitor shows me 3 instances of revWebPlayer in a happy shade of red, and (which seems a bit hard to believe) using up 97% of my CPU - certainly the temperature of the machine is going up! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
You may now download this alpha test release from: http://revmedia.runrev.com/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Written by Kevin Miller on Wed Jul 22, 2009 - 1:19 PM CDT You may now download this alpha test release from: http://revmedia.runrev.com/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin, the Loading plugin... never resolves. Meaning after installing the plugin and restarting the browser (IE and Chrome), the pages using the plugin don't work. I used the click here to install the plugin again to make sure the installation actually happened, but still the same result. Any help on this would be appreciated. -- Regards, Mark Stuart Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Written by Kevin Miller on Wed Jul 22, 2009 - 1:19 PM CDT You may now download this alpha test release from: http://revmedia.runrev.com/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin, the Loading plugin... never resolves. Meaning after installing the plugin and restarting the browser (IE and Chrome), the pages using the plugin don't work. I used the click here to install the plugin again to make sure the installation actually happened, but still the same result. Any help on this would be appreciated. -- Regards, Mark Stuart Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
On 22/07/2009 20:29, Mark Stuart mstu...@adaptcrm.com wrote: Kevin, the Loading plugin... never resolves. Meaning after installing the plugin and restarting the browser (IE and Chrome), the pages using the plugin don't work. I used the click here to install the plugin again to make sure the installation actually happened, but still the same result. Any help on this would be appreciated. Check there isn't a stray revWebPlayer process running (Activity Monitor or Task Manager). If there is, close your browsers, kill the process and try again. Failing that you could try restarting your machine and reinstalling. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
On Jul 22, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Written by Kevin Miller on Wed Jul 22, 2009 - 1:19 PM CDT You may now download this alpha test release from: http://revmedia.runrev.com/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin, the Loading plugin... never resolves. Meaning after installing the plugin and restarting the browser (IE and Chrome), the pages using the plugin don't work. I used the click here to install the plugin again to make sure the installation actually happened, but still the same result. Any help on this would be appreciated. I've had similar problems on Win XP. IE and Safari show the plugin as installed and enabled. Safari hangs at Loading plugin IE just tells me I need to install the plugin. Firefox does not show the plugin as installed. It also asks me to install the plugin each time I try to access a page with a revlet. I have rebooted and reinstalled multiple times. What files does the installer install and where, so I can check that location? I had a very early prerelease version of the plugin on this machine. How do I make sure I've removed all vestiges of it? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Works great for me as well. VERY cool! Congratulations to Kevin and team !! Threw this application up for a test. It's a music database I built for my brother (he's a composer in Los Angeles). As noted, secondary windows which are supposed to come up on top, end up behind the browser. But they are there and can be accessed just by looking for them as if they were another open application. In this particular application, when results show up in the field at right, just click the title to hear the track. It might take a moment before you hear them. Again, if you look, you'll find there is a music player window open behind your browser. http://www.digitalprogolf.com/Scorecues.html I'd like to know if this doesn't work for anyone (assuming your RevWeb plugin is installed and working). Best regards, Richard Miller Ludovic Thébault wrote: Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Work great there too, even in running the presentation in up to three different tabs of FireFox 3.5 / Mac OS X 10.5.7 / MacBook Pro Core 2 2 Ghz at the same time ;-) -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:46, Ludovic Thébault a écrit : Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
I should note this was built on XP and tested in Firefox under XP and Vista. Richard Miller wrote: Works great for me as well. VERY cool! Congratulations to Kevin and team !! Threw this application up for a test. It's a music database I built for my brother (he's a composer in Los Angeles). As noted, secondary windows which are supposed to come up on top, end up behind the browser. But they are there and can be accessed just by looking for them as if they were another open application. In this particular application, when results show up in the field at right, just click the title to hear the track. It might take a moment before you hear them. Again, if you look, you'll find there is a music player window open behind your browser. http://www.digitalprogolf.com/Scorecues.html I'd like to know if this doesn't work for anyone (assuming your RevWeb plugin is installed and working). Best regards, Richard Miller Ludovic Thébault wrote: Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Hi!! I experienced a little problem with safari; 1) I downloaded, the new plugin. 2) It did work nicely on firefox 3) it would not start in safari Solution 4) I moved the old plugin and RR stuff way from the web plugin file 5) re-installed fresh from site the new plugin And it worked like a charm for me... So removing old webPlugin seems to be a solution? Robert -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-4.0-alpha-released-tp24611824p24614134.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
ScoreCues works like a charm.. on safari, mac os X latest, old macbook What strikes me, is 1- how fast the interface reacts. We really are in a new FEEL truly WEB-APP !!! No waiting and obvious redrawing of the screen. It's very important to me, so that's a very big turning point for a few of my sites-projects to get to life now. 2- How quick the migration from a stack to a webApp can be made Although, I have some apps that were made in the splash screen strategy : these have to be turned into single stack apps before. By the way, regarding ScoresCUes.. I found it limitative not to be able to access directly by mood or instruments.. said a musician. Afterall is'n this the most important criteria when you choose a music for video?? ! thanks for this nice demonstration! Robert -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-4.0-alpha-released-tp24611824p24614414.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Your Scorecues app is great! Plus so is the music! Why the delay, do you think -- downloading from the server? Would it be possible to add at least a beachball to let the user know sound is coming? I also searched all over for a way to stop playback before going hunting for another selection. But what a niggler I am. Very nice, and a big boost for your brother to be able to send prospective clients to the web for a search. George On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Richard Miller wrote: Works great for me as well. VERY cool! Congratulations to Kevin and team !! Threw this application up for a test. It's a music database I built for my brother (he's a composer in Los Angeles). As noted, secondary windows which are supposed to come up on top, end up behind the browser. But they are there and can be accessed just by looking for them as if they were another open application. In this particular application, when results show up in the field at right, just click the title to hear the track. It might take a moment before you hear them. Again, if you look, you'll find there is a music player window open behind your browser. http://www.digitalprogolf.com/Scorecues.html I'd like to know if this doesn't work for anyone (assuming your RevWeb plugin is installed and working). Best regards, Richard Miller Ludovic Thébault wrote: Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released
Thanks, George. Normally, the player window would appear on top (above the browser) as soon as a selection was clicked. The user would then know something was taking place. But this version of the plugin has that little bug in it (which doesn't bring new windows to the top). Yes... the music is all being downloaded from a server. No music files reside in the revlet. To stop playback, on a PC, just alt-tab to find the player window. It lies hidden behind the browser. Not sure how to access it on a Mac, but I know it is running and present somewhere. Richard George C Brackett wrote: Your Scorecues app is great! Plus so is the music! Why the delay, do you think -- downloading from the server? Would it be possible to add at least a beachball to let the user know sound is coming? I also searched all over for a way to stop playback before going hunting for another selection. But what a niggler I am. Very nice, and a big boost for your brother to be able to send prospective clients to the web for a search. George On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Richard Miller wrote: Works great for me as well. VERY cool! Congratulations to Kevin and team !! Threw this application up for a test. It's a music database I built for my brother (he's a composer in Los Angeles). As noted, secondary windows which are supposed to come up on top, end up behind the browser. But they are there and can be accessed just by looking for them as if they were another open application. In this particular application, when results show up in the field at right, just click the title to hear the track. It might take a moment before you hear them. Again, if you look, you'll find there is a music player window open behind your browser. http://www.digitalprogolf.com/Scorecues.html I'd like to know if this doesn't work for anyone (assuming your RevWeb plugin is installed and working). Best regards, Richard Miller Ludovic Thébault wrote: Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:34, Edward D Lavieri Jr a écrit : I had the same issue with FireFox on a Mac (OS X). Work great for me. Safari 4, MacOS X Just a test of an app converted by one click in an web app ! http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html I've noticed some bugs with others rapid tests : all others stacks or windows opened by the web app are displayed in the background, behind the current window (so we don't see it) MacOS menus are... small and not very responsive (look at the test over).___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
I take it exporting it as a gif and then converting back to a png is a no-no... Cheers, Luis. On 10 Jun 2008, at 23:33, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 10, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Luis wrote: 'pngcrush' (commandline option) can do this as well as 'imagemagic' (also commandline). imagemagick: convert pic.png -background white -flatten +matte pic_new.png Unless what you want to do is get it into indexed (palette) mode and remove the alpha channel from there. png2pdf might be an option, it can take care of the alpha channel and give you a pdf, which you can embed into a pdf (http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net) Thanks for the links Luis. I'm aware of the other tools out there that can do this but I'm hoping to not have to include another image library on Mac and Windows just to strip alpha channels from PNG files which is why I was hoping someone knew how to do it with Revolution. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
What are you creating the png images with? I recall seeing different save options for png in The Gimp, can't recall them exactly now (I think you could strip out the gamma and the background from the save as well as setting the interlace). Cheers, Luis. On 11 Jun 2008, at 09:49, Luis wrote: I take it exporting it as a gif and then converting back to a png is a no-no... Cheers, Luis. On 10 Jun 2008, at 23:33, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 10, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Luis wrote: 'pngcrush' (commandline option) can do this as well as 'imagemagic' (also commandline). imagemagick: convert pic.png -background white -flatten +matte pic_new.png Unless what you want to do is get it into indexed (palette) mode and remove the alpha channel from there. png2pdf might be an option, it can take care of the alpha channel and give you a pdf, which you can embed into a pdf (http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net) Thanks for the links Luis. I'm aware of the other tools out there that can do this but I'm hoping to not have to include another image library on Mac and Windows just to strip alpha channels from PNG files which is why I was hoping someone knew how to do it with Revolution. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Luis wrote: What are you creating the png images with? I recall seeing different save options for png in The Gimp, can't recall them exactly now (I think you could strip out the gamma and the background from the save as well as setting the interlace). I'm creating the PNG images in Revolution using export snapshot and then using the images in PDF documents created using Jan's library. This is part of an existing end-user application rather than some sort of workflow I'm trying to create for myself which is why I was in search of a Revolution only solution rather than compiling additional libraries that I would have to include for this one task. In regards to your question about exporting to GIF and then converting to PNG - GIF doesn't have enough colors but even if it did you would still be back to the original question of how to create a PNG in Revolution with no alpha channel. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
The export snapshot creates a 32 bit png if the image has an alpha channel, so it's grabbing the 'display' at 32 bits. I'm wondering if changing the colour depth to 24 bit the snapshot will generate a 24 bit png, without the alpha channel. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:14, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Luis wrote: What are you creating the png images with? I recall seeing different save options for png in The Gimp, can't recall them exactly now (I think you could strip out the gamma and the background from the save as well as setting the interlace). I'm creating the PNG images in Revolution using export snapshot and then using the images in PDF documents created using Jan's library. This is part of an existing end-user application rather than some sort of workflow I'm trying to create for myself which is why I was in search of a Revolution only solution rather than compiling additional libraries that I would have to include for this one task. In regards to your question about exporting to GIF and then converting to PNG - GIF doesn't have enough colors but even if it did you would still be back to the original question of how to create a PNG in Revolution with no alpha channel. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Ok, if you look at a 32 bit png in ascii near the start of the file then you'll spot the bKGD chunk, this defines the background and it looks like it also contains the alpha value. On a 24 bit png (no alpha) this value is not present... The bKGD chunk may not be honoured in all viewers. I don't know how this change may reflect on the final image but it might be worth a shot! Cheers, Luis. On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:56, Luis wrote: The export snapshot creates a 32 bit png if the image has an alpha channel, so it's grabbing the 'display' at 32 bits. I'm wondering if changing the colour depth to 24 bit the snapshot will generate a 24 bit png, without the alpha channel. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:14, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Luis wrote: What are you creating the png images with? I recall seeing different save options for png in The Gimp, can't recall them exactly now (I think you could strip out the gamma and the background from the save as well as setting the interlace). I'm creating the PNG images in Revolution using export snapshot and then using the images in PDF documents created using Jan's library. This is part of an existing end-user application rather than some sort of workflow I'm trying to create for myself which is why I was in search of a Revolution only solution rather than compiling additional libraries that I would have to include for this one task. In regards to your question about exporting to GIF and then converting to PNG - GIF doesn't have enough colors but even if it did you would still be back to the original question of how to create a PNG in Revolution with no alpha channel. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Luis wrote: Ok, if you look at a 32 bit png in ascii near the start of the file then you'll spot the bKGD chunk, this defines the background and it looks like it also contains the alpha value. On a 24 bit png (no alpha) this value is not present... The bKGD chunk may not be honoured in all viewers. I don't know how this change may reflect on the final image but it might be worth a shot! The bKGD chunk can be useful for decoders that ignore transparency so that they will display an appropriate background color. A 24-bit PNG would have no need of setting this property since all pixels have a known color and no transparency. I imagine this is why you don't see it in the 24-bit PNG. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hmm, I don't know if QTPro can do the export as 24 bit png. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:01, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Luis wrote: Ok, if you look at a 32 bit png in ascii near the start of the file then you'll spot the bKGD chunk, this defines the background and it looks like it also contains the alpha value. On a 24 bit png (no alpha) this value is not present... The bKGD chunk may not be honoured in all viewers. I don't know how this change may reflect on the final image but it might be worth a shot! The bKGD chunk can be useful for decoders that ignore transparency so that they will display an appropriate background color. A 24-bit PNG would have no need of setting this property since all pixels have a known color and no transparency. I imagine this is why you don't see it in the 24-bit PNG. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hi Trevor, if you export image as paint, then it is exported in ppm (portable pixelmap) format (uncompressed RGB without alpha channel). You can load ppm files with Rev too. Viktoras Trevor DeVore wrote: I need to export a PNG image from a Revolution image control that has no alpha channel information whatsoever. The 'export' command seems to always include the alpha channel even if there are no transparent areas in the image. I've also tried loading an image file into an image control an transferring the imageData to another image and then storing the text of the second image in a file (paintCompression set to png). The file still appears to have an alpha channel though. qrtPDF says the file does and Preview on OS X gives me the option of whether or not to include the Alpha channel if I try to export the resulting image from Preview. Anyone know how to produce a PNG without an alpha channel using Revolution? Thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 10, 2008, at 3:58 AM, viktoras didziulis wrote: Hi Trevor, if you export image as paint, then it is exported in ppm (portable pixelmap) format (uncompressed RGB without alpha channel). You can load ppm files with Rev too. Hi Viktoras, Thanks for the suggestion. I need PNG though as the files are for use in the Quartam PDF library. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Recently, Trevor DeVore wrote: I need PNG though as the files are for use in the Quartam PDF library. Just curious, why you need no alpha channel if the channel contains no data? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hi Scott, Recently, Trevor DeVore wrote: I need PNG though as the files are for use in the Quartam PDF library. Just curious, why you need no alpha channel if the channel contains no data? unfortunately the current version of the PDF Lib does not support PNG files with alpha channel, empty or not. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hiya, 'pngcrush' (commandline option) can do this as well as 'imagemagic' (also commandline). imagemagick: convert pic.png -background white -flatten +matte pic_new.png Unless what you want to do is get it into indexed (palette) mode and remove the alpha channel from there. png2pdf might be an option, it can take care of the alpha channel and give you a pdf, which you can embed into a pdf (http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net) Cheers, Luis. On 10 Jun 2008, at 09:24, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jun 10, 2008, at 3:58 AM, viktoras didziulis wrote: Hi Trevor, if you export image as paint, then it is exported in ppm (portable pixelmap) format (uncompressed RGB without alpha channel). You can load ppm files with Rev too. Hi Viktoras, Thanks for the suggestion. I need PNG though as the files are for use in the Quartam PDF library. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 10, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Luis wrote: 'pngcrush' (commandline option) can do this as well as 'imagemagic' (also commandline). imagemagick: convert pic.png -background white -flatten +matte pic_new.png Unless what you want to do is get it into indexed (palette) mode and remove the alpha channel from there. png2pdf might be an option, it can take care of the alpha channel and give you a pdf, which you can embed into a pdf (http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net) Thanks for the links Luis. I'm aware of the other tools out there that can do this but I'm hoping to not have to include another image library on Mac and Windows just to strip alpha channels from PNG files which is why I was hoping someone knew how to do it with Revolution. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PNG with No Alpha Channel?
I need to export a PNG image from a Revolution image control that has no alpha channel information whatsoever. The 'export' command seems to always include the alpha channel even if there are no transparent areas in the image. I've also tried loading an image file into an image control an transferring the imageData to another image and then storing the text of the second image in a file (paintCompression set to png). The file still appears to have an alpha channel though. qrtPDF says the file does and Preview on OS X gives me the option of whether or not to include the Alpha channel if I try to export the resulting image from Preview. Anyone know how to produce a PNG without an alpha channel using Revolution? Thanks, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hi Trevor, I need to export a PNG image from a Revolution image control that has no alpha channel information whatsoever. The 'export' command seems to always include the alpha channel even if there are no transparent areas in the image. I've also tried loading an image file into an image control an transferring the imageData to another image and then storing the text of the second image in a file (paintCompression set to png). The file still appears to have an alpha channel though. qrtPDF says the file does and Preview on OS X gives me the option of whether or not to include the Alpha channel if I try to export the resulting image from Preview. Anyone know how to produce a PNG without an alpha channel using Revolution? Yes :-) With alpha: ... export snapshot from rect(the rect of img 1) of img 1 to file f1 as PNG ... Without alpha: ... export snapshot from rect(the rect of img 1) of window(the windowid of this stack) to file f2 as PNG ... Thanks, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hi trovor, Hi Trevor, ... With alpha: ... export snapshot from rect(the rect of img 1) of img 1 to file f1 as PNG ... Without alpha: ... export snapshot from rect(the rect of img 1) of window(the windowid of this stack) to file f2 as PNG ... Sorry, was a bit too fast! Just had a look in Photoshop at the resulting files and both do have an alpha channel. Maybe you could export the snapshot to a variable as JPEG first and then to fiel as PNG? Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Sorry, was a bit too fast! Just had a look in Photoshop at the resulting files and both do have an alpha channel. Maybe you could export the snapshot to a variable as JPEG first and then to fiel as PNG? I need to export to PNG as I need a lossless image. I just tried exporting to paint as a variable and assigning the variable to the text property of an image but the image displayed nothing. I then exporting to paint as a file and assigned the file to the filename property of the image and the image data displayed properly. Alas, exporting the image as PNG to a file resulted in an image with an alpha channel. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
Hi Trevor, On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Sorry, was a bit too fast! Just had a look in Photoshop at the resulting files and both do have an alpha channel. Maybe you could export the snapshot to a variable as JPEG first and then to fiel as PNG? I need to export to PNG as I need a lossless image. I just tried exporting to paint as a variable and assigning the variable to the text property of an image but the image displayed nothing. I then exporting to paint as a file and assigned the file to the filename property of the image and the image data displayed properly. Alas, exporting the image as PNG to a file resulted in an image with an alpha channel. Maybe you were right and all exports to PNG format DO have an alpha channel, be it necessary or not. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
How are you determining whether the exported image has an alpha channel? On Jun 9, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Trevor, On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Klaus Major wrote: Sorry, was a bit too fast! Just had a look in Photoshop at the resulting files and both do have an alpha channel. Maybe you could export the snapshot to a variable as JPEG first and then to fiel as PNG? I need to export to PNG as I need a lossless image. I just tried exporting to paint as a variable and assigning the variable to the text property of an image but the image displayed nothing. I then exporting to paint as a file and assigned the file to the filename property of the image and the image data displayed properly. Alas, exporting the image as PNG to a file resulted in an image with an alpha channel. Maybe you were right and all exports to PNG format DO have an alpha channel, be it necessary or not. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PNG with No Alpha Channel?
On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: How are you determining whether the exported image has an alpha channel Preview on OS X and the Quartam PDF library. If you try to save a copy of a file as PNG in Preview using Save As an Alpha checkbox appears if the image is 32 bit. The Alpha checkbox is not present if the image is not 32 bit. In the Quartam library you can't add 32-bit PNG files so demo 6 doesn't work if the PNG has an alpha channel. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
Hi Thomas, Here, in a Windows XP box, the web browsers works great. Tested with StackRunner 1.7, but does not work inside RR 2.8.1. Notice that web browser window have a fixed size, so it´s difficult to use in smaller screen sizes like 1024x768. alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Multi-Browser-pre-alpha-test-release-tp15657282p15665987.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
Thanks Alejandro, The Win XP issue might be because I was using RR 2.9 (beta). I am having problems with 2.9 anyway so I think I will open this stack in 2.8.1 and see if it has the same problems and then upload a new stack. Also, I am working now on the resizing of the windows since I made them so large here on my 23 display. (grin) The contents of the browser windows when resizing seem to create problems but I am digging deep to see about fixes. Thanks for the alpha look. I will notify on update. Thanks again, Tom On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:28 AM, capellan wrote: Hi Thomas, Here, in a Windows XP box, the web browsers works great. Tested with StackRunner 1.7, but does not work inside RR 2.8.1. Notice that web browser window have a fixed size, so it´s difficult to use in smaller screen sizes like 1024x768. alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
I have saved a new version in RR 2.8.1 to see if it will open in RR on Win XP: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/multibrowser.html Or you can try to open this from the message box within RR. go URL http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/MultiBrowser.rev; I hope this works. Tom On Feb 24, 2008, at 11:28 AM, capellan wrote: Hi Thomas, Here, in a Windows XP box, the web browsers works great. Tested with StackRunner 1.7, but does not work inside RR 2.8.1. Notice that web browser window have a fixed size, so it´s difficult to use in smaller screen sizes like 1024x768. alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
Hi Thomas, This new version works great in RR 2.8.1 and StackRunner 1.7 in Windows XP. When you publish a 1024x768 version, i will test all the features. Keep up your good Work! :-) alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Multi-Browser-pre-alpha-test-release-tp15657282p15669629.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
I am releasing Multi-Browser, a Research tool for doing multiple web browsing in one window developed with Revolution as a public pre-Alpha release. I would appreciate any feedback from other Revolution developers. Please email me with comments and suggestions. There is more information on the website concerning this release and features in it. Also there is a limited feature web version there as well. This is a Revolution stack so you must have Revolution installed. http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/multibrowser.html Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why does setting the alpha data alter the image data?
To see this effect take a look at this stack below. In the message box: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ImageDataControls.rev; Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why does setting the alpha data alter the image data?
I don't know. I've seen this too. I always reset the alphaData then the imageData in that order. I documented this years ago in this stack: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/testComposite.rev; best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why does changing the alpha data also change the image data
Sorry. I forgot to Save the changes before uploading. This version should actually work. go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ImageDataControls.rev; Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Windows External
On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Derek Bump wrote: There is an external for Windows 2000 and XP that allows you to set the alpha transparency level for a window. Does anyone have this external? Has anyone been able to make it work? That is from my site http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/. This does not work on XP and I am pretty sure it is a Revolution problem. I haven't been able to get transparency to work at all on XP using 3rd party tools that set the transparency of a window. The tools will work on every other window in the operating system that I've tried except those of a Revolution app. The source code is available so if there is anyone who is more knowledgeable about the Windows API perhaps they could take a look at it but I am stumped. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unreliable button icon alpha
On Jun 28, 2004, at 5:23 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Have an idea how to prevent it? According to bugzilla this has/is being fixed in the next version... Oh boy. Isn't that always the case? So, until at least the next release, it would seem that metal windows... have some issues. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unreliable button icon alpha
According to bugzilla this has/is being fixed in the next version... Oh boy. Isn't that always the case? Exactly my recent point about branching code. I'm part of a 2-man programming effort (lest we get into a capacity discussion), and branching our code is REQUIRED- there's absolutely no floating old versions that never get fixed. Our clients would run for the hills if we told them they had to upgrade to a new feature release and introduce new bugs in order to fix their old. How many bugs that are just being fixed in 2.3 cropped up in 2.1 or earlier? Every single one of those has alienated customers, because their original license for 2.1 or earlier will never deliver for them. How many people here would be ecstatic if there was a 2.1.8 floating around with all of the bug fixes of 2.3 and none of the new features? - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unreliable button icon alpha
I have some rectangular buttons in my application which have icons that include alpha data. Most of the time, these come up and display properly, but sometimes, the edges are all choppy... as though the alpha is getting translated from 8 bit to one bit. Clicking the button clears the problem. Anyone seen this? Have an idea how to prevent it? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Alpha Channel?
Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote: Eh? When I insert an image into MS Word, crop it and/or resize it, and then quit or go to another document or something, when I come back the image is the same size as I left it. Only in RR have I seen images revert to the original size when you leave the document (or card) and then return to it. Actually, Marty, the main difference is that Rev only locks the new size of the image when you specifically ask it to, whereas Word locks the new size of the image automatically. In both cases, the original size version is still available to get to, but Rev requires an extra step. So for example if Rev automatically set the lockLoc on the image after you resized it, you'd get the same behavior as in Word. Not really: in Word you don't have to unlock an image to move it or resize it again. Personally, I think that the lockLoc property is doing double-duty when there should really be a different property altogether. If we has something like the hScale and vScale of an image, and have Rev not resize the image to its 100% size unless another graphic were inserted into the image (new 'filename'), and left the lockLoc alone so it could truly be used for locking the ability to resize or move the object, then we'd get closer to what *I* would expect as 'expected behavior'. Although I understand the current behavior, it is really awkward and drives my students nuts. Every time they want to move or resize an image they first have to unlock it, and then remember to lock it when they're done. These are 8th graders; the easier the interface the better. The current behavior makes one of my beginning assignments, a flip-card animation, really tedious to do. (I'm reluctant to give up the assignment, as it's how I introduce loops.) Now if there were a control key that you could hold down that would override the lock as you click and drag on an object or its handles, that would solve the problem. (RR, are you listening???) - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Alpha Channel?
At 8:41 AM -0500 6/11/2004, Marty Billingsley wrote: Although I understand the current behavior, it is really awkward and drives my students nuts. Every time they want to move or resize an image they first have to unlock it, and then remember to lock it when they're done. These are 8th graders; the easier the interface the better. You can use the arrow keys to move a selected object (and shift-arrow to move it 10 pixels at a time), even if its lockLoc is true. Does this help? -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:35:46 -0700, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image to its natural size. If you swap out the filename you still get a properly-sized image. Thankfully we have a choice: if you never want it to change just set the lockLoc once and forget it. It drives me crazy too because it's not clear how you turn off the 'revert to original' feature permanently, for example if you want to repurpose the image entirely and completely lose the original size. I mean, if I'd altered the shape of an image in a graphics package, I wouldn't expect the 'original size' to haunt me forever, would I? I don't see an original size as a 'natural' size; it's just what I started with, neither more nor less. As I see it, a resized image is a new image, and the idea that the system has a mysterious way of retaining its history is eccentric to say the least. What if I duplicated it seven times and make each of the dupes a different size, and then made each of the dupes part of a shape-changing animation, moving between the new size of the dupe and some other size dictated by the animation (this is an extension of a real case)? The way things are now, I'd have to use an external package to do all these transformations. I'd like it so if I wanted the history, I could save it myself - otherwise transformations should stay transformed. BTW I am not convinced that the lockLoc feature works completely in all situations - at least I've had some problems with editing groups (by script) which contain resized images. I admit that these were too obscure to chase down into proper Bugzilla reports. Just my 2 eurocents as ever Grahay --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:35:46 -0700, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image to its natural size. If you swap out the filename you still get a properly-sized image. This is 'normal' behaviour for me also, and follows the same principle as MSWord for example. Permanent cropping, rotating and resizing should be a separate 'editing' feature. Simply changing the display is, in my view, transitory only. 2p /H ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]
Graham, Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? Whenever you change an image (via fileName or import), the issue for RunRev is what to do about the image object's size (notice I said image object not image). Should it stay the height and width that it is currently on screen? Or should it be resized to the formatted height and width of the new image that it's going to display? lockLoc is the hint that tells RR what to do. Personally I never use lockLoc, always resizing the images I need on the fly, and in your case it sounds like you need more control, and so you might not want to set lockLoc. But imagine a stack of many cards, each with dozens of thumbnails, all pointing to different images on disk. Without lockLoc, a programmer would have to resize each image on every openCard rather than having them stay the size they were set at. It drives me crazy too because it's not clear how you turn off the 'revert to original' feature permanently, for example if you want to repurpose the image entirely and completely lose the original size. There are two types of image, ones you set via the fileName property, and ones you set via the import command. They are similar, but subtly different. For example, you can't use the clipping command on fileName images. But one way they're the same is that both types of images retain their original or formatted height and width when you resize them. When you set an image object's height and width, you're not resizing the original image (the one on disk), you're resizing the RunRev image object which happens to have a copy of your image's data in it. If you want that new image height and width to be permanent, you will need to rewrite the image data to disk, and the way to do that is via the export command. I mean, if I'd altered the shape of an image in a graphics package, I wouldn't expect the 'original size' to haunt me forever, would I? Of course you would. In Photoshop, until you hit Save, and save over the original file, you have access to the original image through undo, or the Revert to Saved menu item. Right? You'd be very very upset if Photoshop threw away your original data just because you resized the image. I don't see an original size as a 'natural' size; it's just what I started with, neither more nor less. As I see it, a resized image is a new image, and the idea that the system has a mysterious way of retaining its history is eccentric to say the least. The original pixels are in the image object, and you can scale it up or down at any time. Would you really want RunRev to throw away the original image data because you scaled the image down to 100,100? What if you wanted to scale it up to 250,250, and then back down again, or wanted to animate it? Do you want to have to reload the image from disk for each size change? What if I duplicated it seven times and make each of the dupes a different size, and then made each of the dupes part of a shape-changing animation, moving between the new size of the dupe and some other size dictated by the animation (this is an extension of a real case)? The way things are now, I'd have to use an external package to do all these transformations. Each image object will have its own copy of the pixels and each image object can be resized to a different size without impacting the other objects. I'd like it so if I wanted the history, I could save it myself - otherwise transformations should stay transformed. They do stay transformed, until one of two things happens. One, if you change the image object via the fileName or import commands, or two, if you leave the card and return. When you return to a card, RR uses the lockLoc property as a hint about how to size the image object as it redraws the screen (hmmm, do I use the image size, or do I use the image object size?). BTW I am not convinced that the lockLoc feature works completely in all situations - at least I've had some problems with editing groups (by script) which contain resized images. I admit that these were too obscure to chase down into proper Bugzilla reports. Sorry, I can't help you with that as I don't use the feature for images. -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
[...] Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image to its natural size. If you swap out the filename you still get a properly-sized image. This is 'normal' behaviour for me also, and follows the same principle as MSWord for example. Permanent cropping, rotating and resizing should be a separate 'editing' feature. Simply changing the display is, in my view, transitory only. Eh? When I insert an image into MS Word, crop it and/or resize it, and then quit or go to another document or something, when I come back the image is the same size as I left it. Only in RR have I seen images revert to the original size when you leave the document (or card) and then return to it. I'm still confused as to why this isn't the expected behavior. - marty ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]
Frank Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like it so if I wanted the history, I could save it myself - otherwise transformations should stay transformed. They do stay transformed, until one of two things happens. One, if you change the image object via the fileName or import commands, or two, if you leave the card and return. When you return to a card, RR uses the lockLoc property as a hint about how to size the image object as it redraws the screen (hmmm, do I use the image size, or do I use the image object size?). This is what seems counterintuitive to me. Why not have a revert command somewhere in the propery inspector so that you can get the original image back if you want. But RR shouldn't keep changing it back to the original size just 'cos I went to a different card and came back! Is there any other software that really works in this manner? Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions so you can revert or step back in history. Web editing software, of course, doesn't touch the original image, but if you resize a picture, that resized image stays on your web page. Somebody mentioned MS Word, but it, too, behaves as I would expect. - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]
On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote: Is there any other software that really works in this manner? Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions so you can revert or step back in history. Web editing software, of course, doesn't touch the original image, but if you resize a picture, that resized image stays on your web page. Somebody mentioned MS Word, but it, too, behaves as I would expect. A long time ago MC used to handle images the way you wanted. When you sized the image down, it would lose the original data. Sizing the image back up would cause pixilation. I requested as probably many others did to have the data retained after resizing. This made making desktop publishing like apps easier to produce. The side effect of the feature request was that you needed to lockloc the image after it was sized down. Is only a single line of code. I think there are times when you would like to size an image and lose the original data for memory purposes. Suppose you have an image viewer that shows thumbnails. To implement that today, you would have to take a screenshot of the sized down image and toss the original from memory. If it really matters to someone, a quick jump to bugzilla for a feature request might be to have both sizing features as an option. While there, maybe all images that are imported should have their lockloc set to true automatically. This sounds like it would meet most users needs without breaking anyones code. Those that have their apps setting this property after importing could take it out for cleanliness. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
You CAN permanently re-size an image with only a little bit of indirection. Make the image the size you want, then make a new image and type these two lines in the message box: set the rect of image 2 to the rect of image 1 set the imageData of image 2 to the imageData of image 1 Now image 2 has its natural size set to its current size. Go to another card in the stack and return and you will find image 1 has reverted to its inital size but image 2 has stayed just how you want it. (It works because the imageData is the pixels as displayed, not the pixels at the original image size.) Hope that helps. Graham wrote: It drives me crazy too because it's not clear how you turn off the 'revert to original' feature permanently, for example if you want to repurpose the image entirely and completely lose the original size. I mean, if I'd altered the shape of an image in a graphics package, I wouldn't expect the 'original size' to haunt me forever, would I? I don't see an original size as a 'natural' size; it's just what I started with, neither more nor less. -- Michael J. Lew Senior Lecturer Department of Pharmacology The University of Melbourne Parkville 3010 Victoria Australia Phone +613 8344 8304 ** New email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]
Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote: Is there any other software that really works in this manner? Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions so you can revert or step back in history. Web editing software, of course, doesn't touch the original image, but if you resize a picture, that resized image stays on your web page. Somebody mentioned MS Word, but it, too, behaves as I would expect. A long time ago MC used to handle images the way you wanted. When you sized the image down, it would lose the original data. Sizing the image back up would cause pixilation. I requested as probably many others did to have the data retained after resizing. This made making desktop publishing like apps easier to produce. The side effect of the feature request was that you needed to lockloc the image after it was sized down. Is only a single line of code. Would it be too much to ask Rev to remember the original image date (i.e., all the pixels) *and* the resizing that I did? inDesign seems to do this, even if you don't keep the image file as an external reference. I don't know how Word handles it. Add to my user interface wish list for RR. :-) - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
On Jun 10, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Michael J. Lew wrote: You CAN permanently re-size an image with only a little bit of indirection. Make the image the size you want, then make a new image and type these two lines in the message box: set the rect of image 2 to the rect of image 1 set the imageData of image 2 to the imageData of image 1 Now image 2 has its natural size set to its current size. Go to another card in the stack and return and you will find image 1 has reverted to its inital size but image 2 has stayed just how you want it. (It works because the imageData is the pixels as displayed, not the pixels at the original image size.) Timely info. Having just returned to working in Rev, this is one of the things I need to do in my current project. I didn't see it as a big problem, but expected to have to do a little experimentation. Now it's covered. Thanks. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Alpha Channel?
Eh? When I insert an image into MS Word, crop it and/or resize it, and then quit or go to another document or something, when I come back the image is the same size as I left it. Only in RR have I seen images revert to the original size when you leave the document (or card) and then return to it. Actually, Marty, the main difference is that Rev only locks the new size of the image when you specifically ask it to, whereas Word locks the new size of the image automatically. In both cases, the original size version is still available to get to, but Rev requires an extra step. So for example if Rev automatically set the lockLoc on the image after you resized it, you'd get the same behavior as in Word. I'm still confused as to why this isn't the expected behavior. Personally, I think that the lockLoc property is doing double-duty when there should really be a different property altogether. If we has something like the hScale and vScale of an image, and have Rev not resize the image to its 100% size unless another graphic were inserted into the image (new 'filename'), and left the lockLoc alone so it could truly be used for locking the ability to resize or move the object, then we'd get closer to what *I* would expect as 'expected behavior'. Just my 2 cents, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Alpha Channel?
I have an Apple Keynote presentation that I'm thinking of recreating in Revolution so that I can customize the slide-to-slide timing and do a few other things that keynote can't do. Can Revolution recognize a graphic image that has an alpha mask-- to make part of an image transparent? If so, then I could mimic the cutouts in Keynote. Also, when you place a graphic image in Revolution is there a way to constrain the proportions as you size the image? Thanks, Marty ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
On Jun 9, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: Also, when you place a graphic image in Revolution is there a way to constrain the proportions as you size the image? Spoke with Scott about that years ago. I don't think he ever got around to implementing it. I will bugzilla it (as a feature request) since I need that as well. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
Hi Marty, I have an Apple Keynote presentation that I'm thinking of recreating in Revolution so that I can customize the slide-to-slide timing and do a few other things that keynote can't do. Can Revolution recognize a graphic image that has an alpha mask-- to make part of an image transparent? If so, then I could mimic the cutouts in Keynote. Yes, sure! You can use GIF or PNG files in RR. GIF supports a 1bit mask, PNG an 8bit mask, so PNG will probably be your choice. Also, when you place a graphic image in Revolution is there a way to constrain the proportions as you size the image? Unfortunately the standard (?, well at least in most image editing apps...) (SHIFT-)key for scaling object proportionaly is not supported in RR. Instead holding the SHIFT-key when resizing objects will constrain the object to a SQUARE object... :-( Hope that helps... Thanks, Marty Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proportional image sizing (was: Alpha Channel?)
On Jun 9, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Marty Knapp wrote: Also, when you place a graphic image in Revolution is there a way to constrain the proportions as you size the image? Turns out their already is a request for this: bugzilla 1116 Gerald Vidic has already taken care of this. Vote if interested. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
Hi Marty, You certainly can use PNG's with an alpha channel in RR with no problem. While you can't shift-drag to constrain, you can write a simple handler to resize an image proportionally...or even easier is create a button and name it Proportionally Fit the Height to the Current Width (I know kinda long, but that's what it does;-) Then put the following script into the button: on mouseUp put the formattedWidth of img myImage into tFW put the formattedHeight of img myImage into tFH put the width of img myImage into tW set the height of img myImage to tW/tFW*tFH end mouseUp Next resize image myImage to roughly the size you want and then press the button. It will automatically set the height based upon the width proportionally. Don't forget to set the lockLoc of img myImage to true when you're done so it won't 'revert back to it's original size' on openCard. best, Chipp Marty Knapp wrote: I have an Apple Keynote presentation that I'm thinking of recreating in Revolution so that I can customize the slide-to-slide timing and do a few other things that keynote can't do. Can Revolution recognize a graphic image that has an alpha mask-- to make part of an image transparent? If so, then I could mimic the cutouts in Keynote. Also, when you place a graphic image in Revolution is there a way to constrain the proportions as you size the image? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
snip Chipp's script to resize an image proportionally Don't forget to set the lockLoc of img myImage to true when you're done so it won't 'revert back to it's original size' on openCard. Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha Channel?
Marty Billingsley wrote: snip Chipp's script to resize an image proportionally Don't forget to set the lockLoc of img myImage to true when you're done so it won't 'revert back to it's original size' on openCard. Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image to its natural size. If you swap out the filename you still get a properly-sized image. Thankfully we have a choice: if you never want it to change just set the lockLoc once and forget it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alpha channel support on Mac
On Jun 3, 2004, at 11:15 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Speaking of that, Trevor mentioned that the external doesn't work in Windows XP as of Rev 2.2 and suggests that Rev look at it to fix it. Trevor, was this logged as a bug in Bugzilla? Just curious... No, it wasn't logged in Bugzilla. I emailed Tuviah directly about it and he was going to look into it (I believe he was working on XP themes at the time). I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Revolution since the technique I use to do the transparency works on other applications under XP. Once that is fixed then I believe it would be possible to do some sort of alpha mask based on a PNG image or something similar. I haven't had time to sit down and figure out how to do this but it would be a cool feature to have. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Alpha channel support on Mac
Howdy, I haven't tried Rev since I switched to OSX. Does 2.2 have alpha channel support (translucent windows, etc.)? TIA, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Alpha channel support on Mac
Speaking of that, Trevor mentioned that the external doesn't work in Windows XP as of Rev 2.2 and suggests that Rev look at it to fix it. Trevor, was this logged as a bug in Bugzilla? Just curious... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:39 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Alpha channel support on Mac Recently, Ken Norris wrote: I haven't tried Rev since I switched to OSX. Does 2.2 have alpha channel support (translucent windows, etc.)? If you're talking about windows, then the answer is sort of. Using Trevor DeVore's window external, you can set the translucency level of a Rev window (which works great) but this is not the same as defining your own alphachannel mask for a window. Rev's built-in support for window masks (the windowShape property) still only handles 1 bit images. http://www.mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/window.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: alpha
You may try the image compositing example at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm or check out Ken Ray's website www.sonsothunder.com for some notes on setting the alphadata property. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peterson Trethewey Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: alpha Is it possible to give an image an alpha channel? What's the best way to do it? I've tried fooling with the alphaData property but it doesn't seem to want to change from its default state, and I've tried making an image with an alpha channel and importing it. Has this worked for anybody? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Peterson __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
alpha
Is it possible to give an image an alpha channel? What's the best way to do it? I've tried fooling with the alphaData property but it doesn't seem to want to change from its default state, and I've tried making an image with an alpha channel and importing it. Has this worked for anybody? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Peterson __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: alpha
Peterson Trethewey heeft op dinsdag, 10 jun 2003 om 20:14 het volgende geschreven: Is it possible to give an image an alpha channel? What's the best way to do it? I've tried fooling with the alphaData property but it doesn't seem to want to change from its default state, and I've tried making an image with an alpha channel and importing it. Has this worked for anybody? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Peterson You can import PNG files which support full 8-bit transparency for really stunning use of alpha-channel transparency. Pretty neat; I use it very often. But it requires some knowledge of PhotoShop or any other program that can export PNG images. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: alpha
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 06:50 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Peterson Trethewey heeft op dinsdag, 10 jun 2003 om 20:14 het volgende geschreven: Is it possible to give an image an alpha channel? What's the best way to do it? I've tried fooling with the alphaData property but it doesn't seem to want to change from its default state, and I've tried making an image with an alpha channel and importing it. Has this worked for anybody? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Peterson You can import PNG files which support full 8-bit transparency for really stunning use of alpha-channel transparency. Pretty neat; I use it very often. But it requires some knowledge of PhotoShop or any other program that can export PNG images. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev2.0 alpha
DL'd and played with the Rev2.0 alpha today. Whew! I'll let those in charge of whipping that bad boy into shape take as much time as they need! Release no software before its time. Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux for Alpha CPU
on 1/30/02 1:25 PM, Kevin Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be great if we could program in TranScript for PalmOS and PocketPC too? :-) We're looking at these, though Palm really has a very different OS so is most unlikely. However the other one wouldn't be so hard and might well happen if we get enough requests. -- Count me in! I'm really just a duffer with programming (HC off-and-on since '87), but I'm heading into more pro work involving solutions for the physically handicapped, and the long-term health health care industry. I'd like to see more power in the hands of physically impaired folks, even if they have no hands. The smaller, lighter, and more compact, the easier it will be for them to be more mobile with their 'aids'. Most of these things are touch-screen and can be easily accessed with prosthetics. Best regards, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
