Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Hi Aaron, I think it's possible to complete the debian packaging wiki too (for a best user experience) : When servers connect to the Internet through a proxy, It's possible to have an other error when adding publickey (gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys F758CE318D77295D) the error is like that : gpg: requesting key 8D77295D from hkp server pgp.mit.edu gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 Simply, It's because the proxy is not set, To correct the problem, you must set the environment variable http_proxy. regards, Jérémy 2011/10/12 hani elabed hani.ela...@gmail.com Hi Aaron, I got an account to the wiki, logged in, and claimed the 'Configuration' page a.k.a 'Storage Configuration' for now. I will let you know when done or if I get stumped. Will also work on Setting up Eclipse page and put it somewhere. Hani On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:24 PM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: Thanks, Hani. If you would like to update the storage config page that would be handy. Just update http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ to say you are working on it. Just click the login link at the top to setup an account. wrt setting up eclipse, perhaps you could post your instructions on a blog somewhere and we can link to it. cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, hani elabed wrote: Hi Aaron, I can help with the documentation... I grabbed tons of screenshots as I was installing Cassandra source trunk(1.0.0.rc2?) on my Mac OS X Snow leopard on Eclipse Galileo and later Eclipse Indigo, I will be installing it on Eclipse for Ubuntu 10.04 soon. I took the sceenshots after I noticed the missing picts in here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/RunningCassandraInEclipse so I did plan on helping with the update... I am glad you sent your email though to get me going. I am just not sure of the logistics, how to do it, and if I needed to be granted some write access to the wiki. Please educate... I can definitely help on the NodeTool and StorageConfiguration as soon as I can grok them myself, or any other documentation. Also you draft front page and focusing first on 1.0 first match my thinking. Hani Elabed On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:10 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: Hi there, The dev's have been very busy and Cassandra 1.0 is just around the corner and full of new features. To celebrate I'm trying to give the wiki some loving to make things a little more welcoming for new users. To keep things manageable I'd like to focus on completeness and correctness for now, and worry about being super awesome later. For example the nodetool page is incomplete http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/NodeTool , we do not have anything about CQL and config page is from 0.7 http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/StorageConfiguration As a starting point I've created a draft home page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ . I also hope to use this as a planning tool where we can mark off what's in progress or has been completed. The guidelines I think we should follow are: * ensure coverage of 1.0, a best effort for 0.8 and leave any content from previous versions. * where appropriate include examples from CQL and RPC as both are still supported. If you would like to contribute to this effort please let me know via the email list. It's a great way to contribute to the project and learn how Cassandra works, and I'll do my best to help with any questions you may have. Or if you have something you've already written that you feel may be of use let me know, and we'll see about linking to it. Thanks. - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Thanks, feel free to add it if you want to. Otherwise I'll put it up. A - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 13/10/2011, at 1:01 AM, Jérémy SEVELLEC wrote: Hi Aaron, I think it's possible to complete the debian packaging wiki too (for a best user experience) : When servers connect to the Internet through a proxy, It's possible to have an other error when adding publickey (gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys F758CE318D77295D) the error is like that : gpg: requesting key 8D77295D from hkp server pgp.mit.edu gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 Simply, It's because the proxy is not set, To correct the problem, you must set the environment variable http_proxy. regards, Jérémy 2011/10/12 hani elabed hani.ela...@gmail.com Hi Aaron, I got an account to the wiki, logged in, and claimed the 'Configuration' page a.k.a 'Storage Configuration' for now. I will let you know when done or if I get stumped. Will also work on Setting up Eclipse page and put it somewhere. Hani On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:24 PM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.com wrote: Thanks, Hani. If you would like to update the storage config page that would be handy. Just update http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ to say you are working on it. Just click the login link at the top to setup an account. wrt setting up eclipse, perhaps you could post your instructions on a blog somewhere and we can link to it. cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, hani elabed wrote: Hi Aaron, I can help with the documentation... I grabbed tons of screenshots as I was installing Cassandra source trunk(1.0.0.rc2?) on my Mac OS X Snow leopard on Eclipse Galileo and later Eclipse Indigo, I will be installing it on Eclipse for Ubuntu 10.04 soon. I took the sceenshots after I noticed the missing picts in here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/RunningCassandraInEclipse so I did plan on helping with the update... I am glad you sent your email though to get me going. I am just not sure of the logistics, how to do it, and if I needed to be granted some write access to the wiki. Please educate... I can definitely help on the NodeTool and StorageConfiguration as soon as I can grok them myself, or any other documentation. Also you draft front page and focusing first on 1.0 first match my thinking. Hani Elabed On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:10 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.com wrote: Hi there, The dev's have been very busy and Cassandra 1.0 is just around the corner and full of new features. To celebrate I'm trying to give the wiki some loving to make things a little more welcoming for new users. To keep things manageable I'd like to focus on completeness and correctness for now, and worry about being super awesome later. For example the nodetool page is incomplete http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/NodeTool , we do not have anything about CQL and config page is from 0.7 http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/StorageConfiguration As a starting point I've created a draft home page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ . I also hope to use this as a planning tool where we can mark off what's in progress or has been completed. The guidelines I think we should follow are: * ensure coverage of 1.0, a best effort for 0.8 and leave any content from previous versions. * where appropriate include examples from CQL and RPC as both are still supported. If you would like to contribute to this effort please let me know via the email list. It's a great way to contribute to the project and learn how Cassandra works, and I'll do my best to help with any questions you may have. Or if you have something you've already written that you feel may be of use let me know, and we'll see about linking to it. Thanks. - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.comwrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Hi Aaron, I think the CommitLog section is outdated ( http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ArchitectureCommitLog) : The CommitLogHeader is no longer exist since this ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2419 Regards, Jérémy 2011/10/11 Sasha Dolgy sdo...@gmail.com maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.comwrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
DataStax would like to help with the wiki update effort. For example, we have a start on updates for 1.0, such as the storage configuration. http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/configuration/storage_configuration Let me know how we can help. Cheers, Daria (DataStax Tech Writer) Question - Are you planning on maintaining wiki docs by version going forward (starting with 1.0)? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: @maki thanks, Could you take a look at the cli page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli ?. There is a lot of online docs in the tool, so we dont need to replicate that. Just a simple getting started guide, some examples and a few tips about about what to do if things don't work. e.g. often people have problems when using bytes comparator. If you could use the sample schema that ships in conf/ that would be handy. You may want to snapshot the 0.7 CLI page in the same way the 0.6 one was and link back http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli06 Just update the draft home page to say you are working on it http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @sasha I was going to use the draft home page as a todo list, (do every page listed on there, and sensibly follow links) and as a checkout system http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @Jérémy Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 8:12 PM, Jérémy SEVELLEC wrote: Hi Aaron, I think the CommitLog section is outdated ( http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ArchitectureCommitLog) : The CommitLogHeader is no longer exist since this ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2419 Regards, Jérémy 2011/10/11 Sasha Dolgy sdo...@gmail.com maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.comwrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Thanks Daria, I have a look at whats there and get in touch. Right now I'm not thinking beyond getting the wiki complete (e.g. it lists all the command line tools) and correct for version 1.0. My main concern was people coming away from the site with incorrect information and having a bad out of the box experience. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 12/10/2011, at 7:42 AM, Daria Hutchinson wrote: DataStax would like to help with the wiki update effort. For example, we have a start on updates for 1.0, such as the storage configuration. http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/configuration/storage_configuration Let me know how we can help. Cheers, Daria (DataStax Tech Writer) Question - Are you planning on maintaining wiki docs by version going forward (starting with 1.0)? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.com wrote: @maki thanks, Could you take a look at the cli page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli ?. There is a lot of online docs in the tool, so we dont need to replicate that. Just a simple getting started guide, some examples and a few tips about about what to do if things don't work. e.g. often people have problems when using bytes comparator. If you could use the sample schema that ships in conf/ that would be handy. You may want to snapshot the 0.7 CLI page in the same way the 0.6 one was and link back http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli06 Just update the draft home page to say you are working on it http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @sasha I was going to use the draft home page as a todo list, (do every page listed on there, and sensibly follow links) and as a checkout system http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @Jérémy Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 8:12 PM, Jérémy SEVELLEC wrote: Hi Aaron, I think the CommitLog section is outdated (http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ArchitectureCommitLog) : The CommitLogHeader is no longer exist since this ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2419 Regards, Jérémy 2011/10/11 Sasha Dolgy sdo...@gmail.com maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Sounds like a good place to start! Thanks for taking the lead and please let me know how I can help! Daria On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: Thanks Daria, I have a look at whats there and get in touch. Right now I'm not thinking beyond getting the wiki complete (e.g. it lists all the command line tools) and correct for version 1.0. My main concern was people coming away from the site with incorrect information and having a bad out of the box experience. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 12/10/2011, at 7:42 AM, Daria Hutchinson wrote: DataStax would like to help with the wiki update effort. For example, we have a start on updates for 1.0, such as the storage configuration. http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/configuration/storage_configuration Let me know how we can help. Cheers, Daria (DataStax Tech Writer) Question - Are you planning on maintaining wiki docs by version going forward (starting with 1.0)? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: @maki thanks, Could you take a look at the cli page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli ?. There is a lot of online docs in the tool, so we dont need to replicate that. Just a simple getting started guide, some examples and a few tips about about what to do if things don't work. e.g. often people have problems when using bytes comparator. If you could use the sample schema that ships in conf/ that would be handy. You may want to snapshot the 0.7 CLI page in the same way the 0.6 one was and link back http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli06 Just update the draft home page to say you are working on it http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @sasha I was going to use the draft home page as a todo list, (do every page listed on there, and sensibly follow links) and as a checkout system http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @Jérémy Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 8:12 PM, Jérémy SEVELLEC wrote: Hi Aaron, I think the CommitLog section is outdated ( http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ArchitectureCommitLog) : The CommitLogHeader is no longer exist since this ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2419 Regards, Jérémy 2011/10/11 Sasha Dolgy sdo...@gmail.com maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.comwrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki -- Jérémy
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
while on the topic of the wiki ... it's not entirely pleasing to the senses or at all user friendly ... hacking around on it earlier today, there aren't that many options on how to give it some flare ... shame really that for such a cool piece of software, the wiki doesn't scream the same level of cool. FWIW, Cassandra doesn't show up on http://wiki.apache.org/general/ On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Daria Hutchinson da...@datastax.comwrote: Sounds like a good place to start! Thanks for taking the lead and please let me know how I can help! Daria On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: Thanks Daria, I have a look at whats there and get in touch. Right now I'm not thinking beyond getting the wiki complete (e.g. it lists all the command line tools) and correct for version 1.0. My main concern was people coming away from the site with incorrect information and having a bad out of the box experience. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 12/10/2011, at 7:42 AM, Daria Hutchinson wrote: DataStax would like to help with the wiki update effort. For example, we have a start on updates for 1.0, such as the storage configuration. http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/configuration/storage_configuration Let me know how we can help. Cheers, Daria (DataStax Tech Writer) Question - Are you planning on maintaining wiki docs by version going forward (starting with 1.0)? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: @maki thanks, Could you take a look at the cli page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli ?. There is a lot of online docs in the tool, so we dont need to replicate that. Just a simple getting started guide, some examples and a few tips about about what to do if things don't work. e.g. often people have problems when using bytes comparator. If you could use the sample schema that ships in conf/ that would be handy. You may want to snapshot the 0.7 CLI page in the same way the 0.6 one was and link back http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraCli06 Just update the draft home page to say you are working on it http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @sasha I was going to use the draft home page as a todo list, (do every page listed on there, and sensibly follow links) and as a checkout system http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron @Jérémy Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 8:12 PM, Jérémy SEVELLEC wrote: Hi Aaron, I think the CommitLog section is outdated ( http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ArchitectureCommitLog) : The CommitLogHeader is no longer exist since this ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2419 Regards, Jérémy 2011/10/11 Sasha Dolgy sdo...@gmail.com maybe that should be the first wiki update the TODO On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Maki Watanabe watanabe.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki -- Jérémy -- Sasha Dolgy sasha.do...@gmail.com
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Hi Aaron, I can help with the documentation... I grabbed tons of screenshots as I was installing Cassandra source trunk(1.0.0.rc2?) on my Mac OS X Snow leopard on Eclipse Galileo and later Eclipse Indigo, I will be installing it on Eclipse for Ubuntu 10.04 soon. I took the sceenshots after I noticed the missing picts in here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/RunningCassandraInEclipse so I did plan on helping with the update... I am glad you sent your email though to get me going. I am just not sure of the logistics, how to do it, and if I needed to be granted some write access to the wiki. Please educate... I can definitely help on the NodeTool and StorageConfiguration as soon as I can grok them myself, or any other documentation. Also you draft front page and focusing first on 1.0 first match my thinking. Hani Elabed On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:10 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.comwrote: Hi there, The dev's have been very busy and Cassandra 1.0 is just around the corner and full of new features. To celebrate I'm trying to give the wiki some loving to make things a little more welcoming for new users. To keep things manageable I'd like to focus on completeness and correctness for now, and worry about being super awesome later. For example the nodetool page is incomplete http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/NodeTool , we do not have anything about CQL and config page is from 0.7 http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/StorageConfiguration As a starting point I've created a draft home page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ . I also hope to use this as a planning tool where we can mark off what's in progress or has been completed. The guidelines I think we should follow are: * ensure coverage of 1.0, a best effort for 0.8 and leave any content from previous versions. * where appropriate include examples from CQL and RPC as both are still supported. If you would like to contribute to this effort please let me know via the email list. It's a great way to contribute to the project and learn how Cassandra works, and I'll do my best to help with any questions you may have. Or if you have something you've already written that you feel may be of use let me know, and we'll see about linking to it. Thanks. - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:51 AM, hani elabed hani.ela...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aaron, I can help with the documentation... I grabbed tons of screenshots as I was installing Cassandra source trunk(1.0.0.rc2?) on my Mac OS X Snow leopard on Eclipse Galileo and later Eclipse Indigo, I will be installing it on Eclipse for Ubuntu 10.04 soon. I took the sceenshots after I noticed the missing picts in here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/RunningCassandraInEclipse Unfortunately, the ASF no longer allows attachments on the wiki. -Brandon
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Thanks, Hani. If you would like to update the storage config page that would be handy. Just update http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ to say you are working on it. Just click the login link at the top to setup an account. wrt setting up eclipse, perhaps you could post your instructions on a blog somewhere and we can link to it. cheers - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com On 11/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, hani elabed wrote: Hi Aaron, I can help with the documentation... I grabbed tons of screenshots as I was installing Cassandra source trunk(1.0.0.rc2?) on my Mac OS X Snow leopard on Eclipse Galileo and later Eclipse Indigo, I will be installing it on Eclipse for Ubuntu 10.04 soon. I took the sceenshots after I noticed the missing picts in here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/RunningCassandraInEclipse so I did plan on helping with the update... I am glad you sent your email though to get me going. I am just not sure of the logistics, how to do it, and if I needed to be granted some write access to the wiki. Please educate... I can definitely help on the NodeTool and StorageConfiguration as soon as I can grok them myself, or any other documentation. Also you draft front page and focusing first on 1.0 first match my thinking. Hani Elabed On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:10 AM, aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.com wrote: Hi there, The dev's have been very busy and Cassandra 1.0 is just around the corner and full of new features. To celebrate I'm trying to give the wiki some loving to make things a little more welcoming for new users. To keep things manageable I'd like to focus on completeness and correctness for now, and worry about being super awesome later. For example the nodetool page is incomplete http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/NodeTool , we do not have anything about CQL and config page is from 0.7 http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/StorageConfiguration As a starting point I've created a draft home page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ . I also hope to use this as a planning tool where we can mark off what's in progress or has been completed. The guidelines I think we should follow are: * ensure coverage of 1.0, a best effort for 0.8 and leave any content from previous versions. * where appropriate include examples from CQL and RPC as both are still supported. If you would like to contribute to this effort please let me know via the email list. It's a great way to contribute to the project and learn how Cassandra works, and I'll do my best to help with any questions you may have. Or if you have something you've already written that you feel may be of use let me know, and we'll see about linking to it. Thanks. - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com
Re: Volunteers needed - Wiki
Hello aaron, I raise my hand too. If you have to-do list about the wiki, please let us know. maki 2011/10/10 aaron morton aa...@thelastpickle.com: Hi there, The dev's have been very busy and Cassandra 1.0 is just around the corner and full of new features. To celebrate I'm trying to give the wiki some loving to make things a little more welcoming for new users. To keep things manageable I'd like to focus on completeness and correctness for now, and worry about being super awesome later. For example the nodetool page is incomplete http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/NodeTool , we do not have anything about CQL and config page is from 0.7 http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/StorageConfiguration As a starting point I've created a draft home page http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/FrontPage_draft_aaron/ . I also hope to use this as a planning tool where we can mark off what's in progress or has been completed. The guidelines I think we should follow are: * ensure coverage of 1.0, a best effort for 0.8 and leave any content from previous versions. * where appropriate include examples from CQL and RPC as both are still supported. If you would like to contribute to this effort please let me know via the email list. It's a great way to contribute to the project and learn how Cassandra works, and I'll do my best to help with any questions you may have. Or if you have something you've already written that you feel may be of use let me know, and we'll see about linking to it. Thanks. - Aaron Morton Freelance Cassandra Developer @aaronmorton http://www.thelastpickle.com -- w3m
